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  • @NavieD
    @NavieD  Před 10 měsíci +137

    What's your thoughts and feelings on using premade samples?

    • @xzaviertariq5692
      @xzaviertariq5692 Před 10 měsíci +16

      There isn't anything wrong with it. I feel like it doesn't sound as good, but that's because the majority of them are pretty low effort in the first place.
      Better than being sued by an artist that wants to gatekeep music.

    • @tomjefferson3244
      @tomjefferson3244 Před 10 měsíci +7

      Loops and sample packs have always been divisive, and I expect they always will be. I'm all for them, but there are some who considering it "cheating" or are hung up on being 100% original. I see it as a form of collaboration.

    • @koraamis5568
      @koraamis5568 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Should be like in writing, free to cite anyone, but you have to put all references. So if any billion dollar artist samples your stuff, you will get promotion that would probably do your music a big favor. I don't see the logic on million dollar lawsuits to reclaim something you could not have achieve by your own. I think it is more important that producers should be transparent about where they get they samples from, but safe, not risking a lawsuit.

    • @sovereigncosmicwildman
      @sovereigncosmicwildman Před 10 měsíci +3

      Not a fan of it. The only premade sounds I like to consider are lengthy bulk ones because I'd rather loop dig on my own

    • @BeatsByGemsmiff
      @BeatsByGemsmiff Před 10 měsíci +2

      Not into them at all…drums are the only pre-made samples i care about miss me wit anything else

  • @daveyleeriot
    @daveyleeriot Před 9 měsíci +250

    The world needs more studio tales from DJ Quik. That 30 seconds of story telling was priceless 😂

    • @Lebinzo
      @Lebinzo Před 9 měsíci +7

      That was fire 🔥 😂😂

    • @topshelfrell13
      @topshelfrell13 Před 8 měsíci

      Facts

    • @teknykill
      @teknykill Před 8 měsíci +2

      Quik is def a great producer too

    • @Delawiz
      @Delawiz Před 7 měsíci +1

      Too dramatic. I cant listen for long

    • @troll-us6hq
      @troll-us6hq Před 7 měsíci

      he did dre's voice perfect

  • @letssee9
    @letssee9 Před 10 měsíci +38

    We gotta remember early hiphop was made by DJs. DJs played parts of popular records aimed at party people. The party people loved the familiarity.

  • @farraribeats
    @farraribeats Před 10 měsíci +247

    I can imagine big producers who use very obscure parts from samples like Havoc, Madlib, or DJ Premier get pissed off when someone finds the sample and puts it on whosampled😂

    • @DrBigFMC
      @DrBigFMC Před 10 měsíci +30

      Premier went on a long rant about it on Gangstarr's Moment of Truth album lol.

    • @breakfreak3181
      @breakfreak3181 Před 10 měsíci +39

      That's ridiculous. You get pissed off because someone recognises that you sampled another artists original work? Fucking madness.

    • @sagcap7927
      @sagcap7927 Před 10 měsíci +14

      🤣😆😂 yep! I would be pissed off too. But it’s people out there that do that for a living to help the original songwriters and labels get paid. I would wanna be compensated for my original work.

    • @amp_unlimited
      @amp_unlimited Před 10 měsíci +7

      ​@@DrBigFMCSure did. I was younger when it came out. I didn't understand what he was so mad about. Now as a producer years later, I totally get it 😊

    • @Ayplus
      @Ayplus Před 10 měsíci +3

      ​@@DrBigFMCWhat track?

  • @selfishbeats
    @selfishbeats Před 10 měsíci +130

    The era of sampling is back, we have people who literally devote themselves to making original music to be sampled for music. namely Drumbroker and the samplelab.

    • @SeverancePay500
      @SeverancePay500 Před 10 měsíci +10

      On Billboard it’s probably more beats made by loops than original instrumentals

    • @xCYMORIx
      @xCYMORIx Před 10 měsíci +10

      Never left dawg we all using the same drum samples with different effects n thinking it’s different

    • @selfishbeats
      @selfishbeats Před 10 měsíci

      @@xCYMORIx drums are a given, the arrangements and combos more than make up for that but i am working on a drum kit all original sounds.

    • @marlinbeats4599
      @marlinbeats4599 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Frank dukes and cubeatz

    • @soundtorial4567
      @soundtorial4567 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Cubeatz are the godz

  • @ChromeRockwell
    @ChromeRockwell Před 10 měsíci +165

    The drums in Addictive are actually a looped break from B.T. Express as well (besides the tambourine)

    • @Taprecords
      @Taprecords Před 10 měsíci +30

      Yep, Do It Til’ You’re Satisfied drums.

    • @sulivelasco8938
      @sulivelasco8938 Před 10 měsíci +17

      B.T. Express -- Do It ('Til You're Satisfied)

    • @sulivelasco8938
      @sulivelasco8938 Před 10 měsíci +13

      Double jack move

    • @robertbright2057
      @robertbright2057 Před 10 měsíci

      Right anybody that knows where beats come from knows that this is it “DO IT TILL YOUR SATISFIED BY THE BT EXPRESS FROM BROOKLYN NEW YORK”. 🎼🥁🪘🎼

    • @djturntablestilltheend5159
      @djturntablestilltheend5159 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Yea exactly, I posted same thing then read your post. Bass and drums are BT Express, Do It Till Your Satisfied. I was in full DJ mode when it was released never impressed me but it was radio played in a loop for a few causing crowds to know the song.

  • @Just_Stranger_
    @Just_Stranger_ Před 10 měsíci +91

    I remember hearing the Pharoahe monche godzilla sample when I was a little kid on the radio and was blown away, it was so dope. It gave me chills and still does

    • @ShazammtheProducer
      @ShazammtheProducer Před 10 měsíci +4

      facts

    • @I_V_X
      @I_V_X Před 7 měsíci +3

      It's my alarm, get the f up

    • @roderickt9629
      @roderickt9629 Před 7 měsíci +1

      i remember how this track was biting TIMBALAND who first sampled godzilla in 99 for Ginuwine. Like when Busta bit Timbo with the knight rider record.... the Timbaland Godzilla joint much much better

    • @Herr_Brechmann
      @Herr_Brechmann Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@roderickt9629I think beasty boys did Godzilla aswell

    • @roderickteerink1852
      @roderickteerink1852 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Herr_Brechmann yes! they were inspired by the Godzilla iconography and feature him in the Intergalactic video from 1998. But its limited to the visuals, the intergalactic audio track doesn't sample godzilla far as i know.

  • @rareforareasontv
    @rareforareasontv Před 10 měsíci +17

    I found your page on accident and I got to say you’re nice AF. I enjoy the way you break down music that I can watch and put it in a technical sense so everybody can understand that it’s not just Nawdy it’s really hard it’s really creative. Thank you for that.

  • @Philofasus
    @Philofasus Před 10 měsíci +48

    Navie I'm really enjoying these beat history videos so much. Your one of my all time favorite ppl in the universe.

  • @shabazz120
    @shabazz120 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Big Daddy Kane addressed sampling so well on his Young, Gifted, and Black verse, as did Stetsasinic with Tallking All that Jazz.

  • @z.i.productions1388
    @z.i.productions1388 Před 9 měsíci +3

    You just earned a new subscriber... this may just be the best channel I've came across in a while!!

  • @metrobeatz8795
    @metrobeatz8795 Před 10 měsíci +19

    great job recreating the beat..they actually recreated the beat pattern from 'BT Express - Do It Til You're Satisfied' which was a huge funk record in the 70s!

  • @SeaSquared
    @SeaSquared Před 10 měsíci +96

    I heard Pharoahe Monche on The Champs podcast talking about this. He said they were trying to sue him as an individual, his lawyers defense to shift the blame to the label was that it was like if you recorded the Superbowl without permission and then gave that copy to a friend (the label) and the friend made a bunch of copies and started selling them. It was a long time ago I heard it but that was the general gist, I think about that all the time.

    • @wwlittlejOfficial
      @wwlittlejOfficial Před 10 měsíci +11

      Thinking about it, that defense wouldnt work as u (the artist) gave the your friend (the label) the copy of the Superbowl WITH the intention of it being distributed and sold, which returns culpability back to u. And I'm pretty sure there's no way in hell u can prove u just wanted to share your copy with a music distribution service being ignorant that's what they would have done, lol.

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Před 10 měsíci +14

      Hahah oh wow, that's a pretty interesting defense

    • @MrARhodes
      @MrARhodes Před 10 měsíci +9

      'im remember Monch telling Sean P! (Seanuar 😂) about the Godzilla sample "they sued the sh¡t outta me..." 🤣😐😒

    • @anthonywalker4211
      @anthonywalker4211 Před 10 měsíci +13

      I heard he submitted the info on the sample to Rawkus so they could clear it. But instead they decided to be cheap and try to get away without doing it. If that's true they probably didn't anticipate it being such a huge hit

    • @madant22
      @madant22 Před 7 měsíci

      Sean P was trying play Big Nardo. Let me find out Nardwuar was even popping back then. Lol

  • @dinogoldie9716
    @dinogoldie9716 Před 10 měsíci +14

    A few more notable rap sample clearance snafus: Geto Boys "Gangster of love" (Steve Miller band); Snoop Doggy Dogg "Gs up Hoez down" (Isaac hayes); 2 Live Crew "Pretty Woman" (Roy Orbison); De La Soul "Transmitting live from Mars" (The Turtles); Buck 65 "Up the middle" (Metallica); Buck 65 "Bio/65 Buick" (Biz Markie).

  • @michaelk8642
    @michaelk8642 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Wow! As opposed to other vids that discuss this topic and only discuss the similarities by playing the sample and the song that uses it, you actually go more in-depth on how the sample was created. Great stuff!

  • @ProdByAbeHal
    @ProdByAbeHal Před 10 měsíci +1

    DUDE this video breakdown is so sweet! Great job!!

  • @dmaster20ify
    @dmaster20ify Před 6 měsíci +1

    Man this video was well put together. And you not only told us about the lawsuits, we are also educated on how to creates beats!

  • @eastafrika728
    @eastafrika728 Před 9 měsíci +18

    Sampling is what Hip Hop and dancehall is about. The future is about using the past to construct something new. No matter what, Dre's beats were fire 🔥 The samples are 🔥.

    • @Kenny-Alpha
      @Kenny-Alpha Před 9 měsíci

      Dancehall needs to stop that shit. That's why I don't listen to Dancehall music at all! It's all sampling and stealing and remaking of popular songs. I don't know why Jamaicans or whoever makes their beats, can't be original.

    • @rikkidgermano9640
      @rikkidgermano9640 Před 7 měsíci +1

      It's always people who want to come across knowledgeable that tend to have an issue with it but most of them aren't even in a creative space. They know their stuff and can talk all smart but they do not really know that it is also a craft to create something new out of a sample. Just by using certain samples I found a lot of artists who I became a fan of. Take that away, nobody will know about it.

  • @jayeskool318
    @jayeskool318 Před 10 měsíci +12

    We need a part 2 to this video...Great Job.

  • @feralg8952
    @feralg8952 Před 7 měsíci +2

    This video is so well made! Great work

  • @chas3ton
    @chas3ton Před 10 měsíci +18

    PLEASE do more DJ Quik. Bro deserves his flowers

  • @unverifiedusername
    @unverifiedusername Před 10 měsíci +7

    I was hoping you’d include the story about Jaylib’s The Red. That original beat runs circles around the lacklustre re-release. Madlib and Dilla caused all sorts of drama for Stones Throw but it was arguably worth it for anyone with an original pressing.

  • @eddiehaze3165
    @eddiehaze3165 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Yea that break beat used for Addictive was definitely BT Express (Do It). That was obvious to most listeners back then...

  • @lebophaladi3596
    @lebophaladi3596 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Love this video. Great content man.

  • @seekin8516
    @seekin8516 Před 10 měsíci +1

    These breakdowns are very eye opening. Thanks!

  • @MvnStn
    @MvnStn Před 10 měsíci +7

    Ughhh, all Classics! I totally forgot about that Addicted track and Truth.. Superb breakdown, Navie.

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Před 10 měsíci +2

      Thank you thank you! I forgot about that song too. It's been ages

  • @Elelyoneleven
    @Elelyoneleven Před 10 měsíci +5

    Actually the drums on addictive is a break from B.T express and their classic song Do It ('Til You're Satisfied)

  • @B_Tapes
    @B_Tapes Před 10 měsíci +1

    idec about this video or it's information, but you make videos and breakdowns that keep me hooked.

  • @Lonersquare
    @Lonersquare Před 10 měsíci

    Very enjoyable and information video. I hope you go into a series on this...

  • @Dead2you
    @Dead2you Před 10 měsíci +3

    wow. i totally forgot about Truth Hurts. that Rakim verse was DOPE! i had no idea there was a scandal with that joint.

  • @DeeMaxum
    @DeeMaxum Před 10 měsíci +6

    Actually, the drums in that addictive song was a drum break loop. So sampled drum loop as well ( of course adding some extra bells & whistles to it)

  • @mrtruthhurts2307
    @mrtruthhurts2307 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Your videos are actually pretty good. Thank you sir 💪

  • @SinnizterHouseMusic
    @SinnizterHouseMusic Před 2 měsíci

    Hey my brotha I’m new to your channel just the way you broke this down is informational I really don’t sample but at time it’s hard to just get started with a beat but your channel is opening my eyes more on sampling

  • @mikoshbeats
    @mikoshbeats Před 10 měsíci +30

    TrackLib reach out to this man.. 😩

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Před 10 měsíci +11

      They have. I typically don't do sponsors though

    • @mikoshbeats
      @mikoshbeats Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@NavieD Would have been a great fit for this video tho

  • @daveyleeriot
    @daveyleeriot Před 10 měsíci +5

    I got tons of pre-made samples but diggin & choppin up my own def feels more like im giving it a personal touch

    • @robertprince2651
      @robertprince2651 Před 10 měsíci

      Same here; I see folks running to TrackLib but I chop myself.

  • @thejacoshow1
    @thejacoshow1 Před 10 měsíci +2

    love this vid. keep doing this series :) 🔥

  • @sosomelodies659
    @sosomelodies659 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Is it so difficult, given how talented the producers are, to make a 3 second riff, melody, or hook? How can they seriously think it wouldn't comeback to bite them in the wallet if they sampled uncleared copyrighted music.

  • @kevs8225
    @kevs8225 Před 10 měsíci +35

    Even tho I already knew the backstory to all 3 entries, I didn't expect you to recreate the tracks in the process 🔥🔥
    Btw, the percussion on the Addictive track comes from "Do it Til You're Satisfied" by BT Express (I'm sure layers of extra drum sounds were used tho)

    • @smooveface
      @smooveface Před 9 měsíci +3

      I was just about to post this. LOL. the percussion track is pretty much 99.9% Do i Til You're Satisfied. But Quick does sprinkle in some tambo fills,

  • @NNITRED
    @NNITRED Před 9 měsíci +3

    The biggest horror story in sampling wasn't even a hiphop tune. It was the Verve's "Bittersweet Symphony". They sampled The Stones and their legal team did just take money. in addition to cash damages they seized all publishing ,ownership of the master , and all performance rights.

  • @stevendorn1736
    @stevendorn1736 Před 10 měsíci

    This video was well put together., And I appreciate the content so I subscribed... Thanks for the Knowledge.... Oh yeah I love sampling too😁

  • @bigaltaufetee4933
    @bigaltaufetee4933 Před 9 měsíci

    Really appreciate this video, wow! Didn’t even know this was going on. I mean I knew about people gettin suit on music coping ans so for but not knowing the details of it all.
    Thank man,
    🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽

  • @Sneakycat1971
    @Sneakycat1971 Před 10 měsíci +6

    500 million is ridiculous.

  • @starlabbi3823
    @starlabbi3823 Před 10 měsíci +1

    God bless you #NavieD. I learnt a lot from you. I really appreciate your teachings.❤❤❤

  • @suryansh3858
    @suryansh3858 Před 2 měsíci +1

    bro u are doing great work bro

  • @dreamshots_PIB
    @dreamshots_PIB Před 10 měsíci +3

    4:00 All you would have needed here was another EQ curve, just a high shelf to reduce the highs a bit, just around 4-6dB… then limit it dead, clean it up again, transient shaper over it and compress it again so it doesn't sound harsh, pretty sure that's what dre has done ☺️

  • @A_Class216
    @A_Class216 Před 10 měsíci +3

    They actually used a popular drum break for truth hurts single

  • @allpositivenetwork
    @allpositivenetwork Před 9 měsíci

    just discovered your channel. I love these vids.

  • @Diggy22
    @Diggy22 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I still remember when Toho came after Pharaoe Monch over the "Simon Says" beat. It's stories like these that encourage me to keep practicing piano and do my own loops from scratch.

  • @charlesweru7787
    @charlesweru7787 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Am not good at sample or sampling, but I agree there should be legal ways to protect the original beats. This gives one more creative ways of coming up with unique beats

    • @rikkidgermano9640
      @rikkidgermano9640 Před 7 měsíci

      Hip Hop's foundation is sampling something original and creating something new out of it. Besides that, just using that sample the originators get paid as well. If you take that away it destroys a whole industry. As long as the original creators get paid, there is no need to protect anything!

    • @JN-so6wt
      @JN-so6wt Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@rikkidgermano9640 if they do create something new that's dope. Idk if "pitch-shifting the sample 1 semitone and adding a LPF" is very transformative though. creative sampling can be cool and create a whole new sound, but that kinda stuff where it's just some instruments+vocals layered on top of a barely-changed rip i always found boring and uninspired.
      Also the original creators getting paid or even being able to fight for it or even finding out they got ripped is not a given where you can say that. Gregory Coleman who played the amen break in 1969 died penniless and homeless in 2006, and thats the most sampled groove of all time, spawning whole genres that made multi-millionaires.

  • @La_Volpe22
    @La_Volpe22 Před 10 měsíci +9

    The downfall of sampling was predicted. They said we would end up sampling other samples. But as long the music sounds good, and the world is dancing. Who cares

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Před 10 měsíci

      I like this attitude

    • @dopefreshnation4097
      @dopefreshnation4097 Před 10 měsíci

      New music is created everyday sampling will never die

    • @mkrs01g
      @mkrs01g Před 9 měsíci +1

      The people that produced the original music that was sampled, who may not be making much or any money at their craft but someone else rakes in millions from their work while they get nothing. They care. If people are making money off of someones work, they need to pay that original source.
      It's something different if you're just doing it for yourself but these popular producers and record labels who are making millions definitely need to compensate the original artists they got their samples from. There's absolutely no reason not to.
      I don't agree with suing anybody who does it, who may not be making any money. Or suing someone for more money than they're making off of it.
      But at a bare minimum, they should get a percentage of the profit since it wouldn't exist without their original work. Otherwise, pay them a flat fee that they want for unlimited use of it. But compensate the original artist if you're making money off of them.

  • @EnryMusica
    @EnryMusica Před 10 měsíci

    Very interesting video, subscribed!!!

  • @zilvente
    @zilvente Před 10 měsíci +2

    I have found an easy solution for myself, when I like a sample from a song I just learn it and play it in myself, whatever it is,
    it helps if you play the instrument, but you can program that stuff too.
    That's why I taught myself keys guitar and bass, it's super helpful.

  • @TheTonyTitan
    @TheTonyTitan Před 10 měsíci +12

    I think sampling is cool if
    A) you have the ways and means to clear it FIRST,or
    B) you're doing it for something like a party mixtape (for example) and not to sell or claim rights to.
    I much prefer using specially curated sample packs. The Sample Lab is where I get samples from in most cases. The selection is vast and the motif of each collection is different, so there are an almost endless assortment of styles for different genres. Totally worth the price of admission lol

    • @JerryMain1
      @JerryMain1 Před 8 měsíci +1

      yep. You killed the modern music.

    • @assassin8636
      @assassin8636 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@JerryMain1no he didn't

  • @thewisefromwest6941
    @thewisefromwest6941 Před 10 měsíci +25

    As an Indian I'm just pleasantly surprised to know navie is an Indian..... And also I have 3 Giga bytes worth of Lata mangeshkar and Mohammad Rafi samples ... If I release them out wild I would be dead. Pls tell some ways in which I can release these songs uncleared and anonymously

    • @EzComEzG0
      @EzComEzG0 Před 10 měsíci +7

      They usually don't care unless you're making money.. All people ever want is the money when it comes to music - that goes for the artist and the people sample hunting

    • @drumaddictanddramatic
      @drumaddictanddramatic Před 10 měsíci +2

      Doubt u have 3 gigs of beats lmao

    • @_mili808
      @_mili808 Před 10 měsíci

      @@drumaddictanddramatic he said samples

    • @D10S.777
      @D10S.777 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@EzComEzG0 This.
      You wont get in trouble for uploading it to youtube lol
      But if a song with the sample blows up the producer will

    • @roddo
      @roddo Před 10 měsíci

      @@drumaddictanddramatic 3 gigs of beats isnt that much, files for beats can get pretty big sometimes

  • @groovefretboard
    @groovefretboard Před 10 měsíci +1

    Really cool vid. I like the pharaoh monch part. Truly appreciate that beat more how they used static part. I have that on vinyl.
    If your into experimental guitars check my patented fretboard. Would be lit for future samples. Pull any string into vertical scallops. Major game changer. In fact Hendrix carved notches in fretboard on select frets on foxy lady Intro yo alter pitch on vibrato. Many artists such as Steve Vai on Blue Powder / Kirk Hammett on Masters solo have pulled high string off fretboard on iconic solos.

  • @justsurrealist1533
    @justsurrealist1533 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Sean price dressed as narduar is something I never thought I'd ever see

  • @exelbeats
    @exelbeats Před 10 měsíci +13

    500 Mill? Wow! I wonder if it was a complete loss or if the record did well enough to break even for Dre. I always thought the drums on that song were also from a break.

    • @bennyfairfax1
      @bennyfairfax1 Před 10 měsíci +4

      I think they are

    • @afroham
      @afroham Před 10 měsíci +14

      The track got pulled - I'm quite sure they didn't need to cough up the 500$ mil as this would probably bankrupt the label. I think you're able to sue anyone for any amount - but that doesn't mean that you'll get even close to that.

    • @ivanvalentin3898
      @ivanvalentin3898 Před 10 měsíci

      No way one beat with a shitty artists is paying $500 mil

    • @tnoinetwork
      @tnoinetwork Před 10 měsíci +5

      No one paid $500 million bro

    • @JohnDoe-to2kr
      @JohnDoe-to2kr Před 9 měsíci +1

      Yeah they didnt get 500 mil but they did settle out of court

  • @leroy92TX
    @leroy92TX Před 10 měsíci +3

    The biz Markie beat is crazy cause I play simple melodies like that on piano all the time lol. It's such a common and easy thing to play

    • @michaelpaulwelch
      @michaelpaulwelch Před 10 měsíci +2

      Something that simple to play could have been easily duplicated without using the actual sample

  • @willess7312
    @willess7312 Před 10 měsíci

    Great video!!!

  • @homestudiostories
    @homestudiostories Před 9 měsíci

    Really good video man.

  • @jjbing3
    @jjbing3 Před 10 měsíci +21

    Internal Affairs is one of my favorite albums. I’m glad it finally came to streaming. 😌

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Před 10 měsíci +6

      No Mercy is such a good song

    • @experimentalwhateverchanne2312
      @experimentalwhateverchanne2312 Před 10 měsíci

      Yall spotify peoples are getting paid to comment this man, every single video i go yall be cryin

  • @RebelXD
    @RebelXD Před 10 měsíci +4

    Why should stealing other people's music be legal? What actually needs to happen, is more people need to actually learn to make original music. I could never take a producer who only makes music through sampling other people's work seriously. How could one even call themselves a music producer by doing so?

  • @bbdigital2598
    @bbdigital2598 Před 10 měsíci

    Thx for that video 👍🏻 ….it’s frustrating that most of the Biz Markie’s songs are not available on Spotify.

  • @lovrboiwebb
    @lovrboiwebb Před 8 měsíci

    I like the hands on explanation especially the fruity loops breakdown of how the beats were made.

  • @PoboyMusic
    @PoboyMusic Před 10 měsíci +7

    I think Tone Loc was the first one to get sued for sampling. Wild Thing sampled Van Halen

    • @larrylicavoli
      @larrylicavoli Před 10 měsíci +1

      It was Biz Markie

    • @PoboyMusic
      @PoboyMusic Před 10 měsíci

      @@larrylicavoliwhat year?

    • @2spee
      @2spee Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@PoboyMusic1991.

    • @oholm09
      @oholm09 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@PoboyMusic1989

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 Před 9 měsíci

      People have been suing for breach of copyright since the invention of vinyl. There was an illegal mash-up in the Billboard charts in the 1950s. Fwiw, the Biz Markie Vs Gilbert O' Sullivan case clarified the law in 1991, but the Turtles sued De la Soul in 1989, before settling out of court. I think the Tone Loc thing wasn't decided by court jury either. Settling out of court (sometimes with baseball bats in dark alleyways) had been happening in the music industry for decades.

  • @drfangaz-pronouncedlikefan4019
    @drfangaz-pronouncedlikefan4019 Před 10 měsíci +49

    $500,000,000? It didn't take that much to record it. Also, more than likely the sample originally didn't generate $500,000,000 on its own sales. So, technically asking for that much in damages is insane because Truth Hurts version didn't prohibit the sales of the original song. If anything her song boosted the record sales of the artist sampled to find new music to use in hip-hop music production.
    A bit of inside knowledge: Dr. Dre's team reached out to the publisher of the song as well as the artist whom by the way changed her real name several times over the years. Dre also paid her to sing it all over in the studio but she couldn't get it like the original so they used the sample. Greed played a part in Dr. Dre getting sued.

    • @troymcnair4546
      @troymcnair4546 Před 9 měsíci +2

      It doesn't matter if you sample a beat and that song do well trust me buddy you will pay and the fact that the song still gets played and the producer is a billionaire yeah you will get not what you asked for but you gonna get so paid.💯🤑🤑💲💲💲💲💲💲

    • @KingBabaJames
      @KingBabaJames Před 9 měsíci +4

      Didn't take that much to record it! They're suing for value of their talents. Why can't they create original beats! It's very hard to create something unique in music. So they gon steal it. Then they gonna be sued.

    • @tq3076
      @tq3076 Před 9 měsíci +2

      ​@@KingBabaJames tell Ed Sheeran that

    • @KingBabaJames
      @KingBabaJames Před 9 měsíci +3

      @tq3076 yeah he's one of them too. The fact is that, mainstream producers search online all day looking for unknown talented Artists to rip off. Because they know that unknown Artists has no means- ability to sue them. Bastille rip me off. I don't even have money to hire a Lawyer to fight them. That's how they get away with it.

    • @drfangaz-pronouncedlikefan4019
      @drfangaz-pronouncedlikefan4019 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@KingBabaJames it's easy to put a high price on your personal ideal of what you think your worth in talent is, however there is a cap or limit when others are involved.

  • @The1TheyCallFoo313
    @The1TheyCallFoo313 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I don't understand why rappers who are signed to big labels don't just clear the sample. Never made sense to me, you end up paying more in the long run.

  • @ninjanick5769
    @ninjanick5769 Před 3 měsíci

    Navie Id like you to make a video on Mechanical Licensing, just to give us an idea on how to work around samples like that and how authorities will know the difference between the two, the original vs the recreation/rework

  • @MrARhodes
    @MrARhodes Před 10 měsíci +13

    Sampling should be authorized. It hemmed up De La with the "Three Feet High And Rising" album. Gave DOOM grief over the "Cookies" Sesame Street outro sample. It's like Big Daddy Kane said in "Young, Gifted, And Black" - "We sample beats, you sue, and try to fight us/ Man, you'd still be home with arthritis/ If we didn't revive, and bring back alive/ old beats that we appreciated, you wouldn't survive...". It's DEFINITELY a form of paying homage. But if an artist doesn't want their art associated with a certain image/etc., that MUST be respected. BTW, 'im LOVED that Seanuar episode 😂 (RIP!). #Salute

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 Před 9 měsíci +2

      I'm reminded of the Stetsasonic lyric (circa 1989): "Tell the truth, James Brown was old, until Eric and Rak came out with 'I Got Soul'."
      Sampling was a free-for-all back then and led to some classic tracks, but the system isn't sustainable if original artists aren't given credit and paid.

    • @MrARhodes
      @MrARhodes Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@AutPen38 Original artists should DEFINITELY be given recognition and a check/cheque/✔. In recognition of John "Pops" Witherspoon's saying, "Hoes Gotta Eat Too". 😊

    • @IStevenSeagal
      @IStevenSeagal Před 7 měsíci +1

      Absolutely true. Nobody would have known about some slavvic music composer if it werent for the extremely popular X-Men TAS intro that had sampled one of his creations. Yet that person sued them. He should rather be thanking that X-Men cartoon intro because now he has probably garned attention for his skills and maybe listeners and fans to boot.

    • @JN-so6wt
      @JN-so6wt Před 6 měsíci

      you say that, but also gregory coleman who played the amen break in 1969 died penniless and homeless in 2006, and thats the most sampled groove of all time, spawning whole genres that made multi-millionaires.

  • @TMG9836
    @TMG9836 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Why do Bollywood samples need to go so hard, though?

    • @raimondnu3
      @raimondnu3 Před 10 měsíci +1

      They all go soooo damn hard!!! Watched a few Bollywood movies and was like damn this could be a fire sample, doesnt help they are literally singing 95% of the entire movie. lol

  • @djkingshameek
    @djkingshameek Před 10 měsíci

    Great vid!

  • @premecolione
    @premecolione Před 9 měsíci

    sup fam.gud job kaz!!!! Yeah we learn erryday......prizzi from nairobi👊🏿

  • @NOCDIB
    @NOCDIB Před 10 měsíci +6

    Dr Dre and DJ Quik have been in the industry for long enough to know that you need to clear samples, no matter how obscure they seem. Did they really think that a country of over 1 billion people wouldn't know that their cultural sounds were used in a Billboard-charting song.

    • @IStevenSeagal
      @IStevenSeagal Před 7 měsíci

      You ask for clearance. But what if that "clearance" asks for 500 mil too? Rather do it for free.

  • @BeyBey5656
    @BeyBey5656 Před 10 měsíci +653

    Sampling should be legal, making sampling illegal is taking away freedom of artistic expression from many artists.

    • @AaronOstwald
      @AaronOstwald Před 10 měsíci +131

      Copyright law, like most laws, isn't made for people, it's made for corporations.
      And guess who has the most influence on deciding which laws to change and how they should be altered?
      Well not the people

    • @M.C.unofficiallyOfficial
      @M.C.unofficiallyOfficial Před 10 měsíci +107

      It really shouldn't, what would stop the artist from just taking the full beat, adding some instruments, and claim that it's theirs

    • @AaronOstwald
      @AaronOstwald Před 10 měsíci +31

      @@M.C.unofficiallyOfficial Well that's the thing that is so difficult.
      It should be legal to sample but illegal to steal entire songs or entire parts. But to specify how much you can take is the big problem.
      I think there should be a fixed amount of percentage of revenue that goes to the original creator of the sample and that should be correlating to how central the sample is and how replacable.
      But it's really hard to figure out how much you can take and how much you have to change it to make it "your own" and not just stealing.
      On the other hand there are covers and that's just taking someones intellectual property in terms of writing music and making it your own. Oh so you have to learn the instruments to make a cover?
      Well but you have to learn how to properly sample, program drums or use an MPC to make something good with a sample, too, right?
      So basically the problem is that the law does not treat sampling the way it treats covering songs.
      I've been outraged with how some artists took the lead melodys of older songs, absolutely butchered them and released their shitty pop song that's just a worse versio of the original. And that stuff is okay in terms of copyright law.
      But taking an itsy bitsy 2 second part of a song and turning it into something lovely is not okay.
      That's the problem.
      Everyone should get what they deserve and I think producers get too much shit and too little credit for their amazing work. On the other hand some pop musicians own the work that their producer produces, their ghost writers write, their instrumentalists play.... and they only sing their part and own everything the other people involved did. That isn't fair either, is it?

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Před 10 měsíci +215

      Ehh. If someone took one of your beats and remade it with slight alterations, and didn't pay you, wouldn't you be cheesed?

    • @marcorossi5968
      @marcorossi5968 Před 10 měsíci +7

      The first and third beats are not defensible. The contribution that those samples have given to the beats and the minimal work made on the samples, yes creative enough to produce a hit, but not that creative to not give a royality. I can understand when there are economic and therefore "at the time" technical limits, but when your name is Dr Dre or you produce a hit, it does not make you justifiable.

  • @scratchalotrecords3172
    @scratchalotrecords3172 Před 10 měsíci

    Awesome Video 🙏🏽

  • @ChoskyVibes
    @ChoskyVibes Před 10 měsíci +6

    I think sample should be legal, and if the song is a hit the composer of the sampled song should take a porcentege of the royalties, is a win win. But today you see crazy lawsuit like sting taking almost every profit or lucid dream by juice wrld wich is crazy

    • @dianevrules
      @dianevrules Před 10 měsíci +2

      Well, if Juice Wrld or his producers wouldve cleared the sampled like Trackmasters did for Nas's The Message, perhaps Sting would not have taken everything. When you use something without permission, you should be happy that it is cleared, even if they take 100%. Because Sting couldve had that song removed from all streaming sites, etc. I wouldve taken 100% and had the song removed from all streaming sites.

    • @ChoskyVibes
      @ChoskyVibes Před 10 měsíci

      @@dianevrules yeah, but this was like a debut song, that it was done by teenagers independently, Is not the same thing as Nas, that was a signed artist in His second professional album. Taking all of there Profit feels unfair because the sample was justo one element of the whole composition.

  • @AaronOstwald
    @AaronOstwald Před 10 měsíci +7

    Honestly as long as I do beats that I will never release I will just sample either way but if I ever ever ever get to the point that I commercially release beats in any way then I will go the extra mile just to make sure that nobody will recognize the sample or that I can argue that I rerecorded the sample or so to say "covered the song and then sampled my cover" because that's the only loophole to sampling copyright law.... or I'm just gonna sample myself.
    It's really sad that we live in a time when recording only has been going on for about 115 years and our copyright exists for about 40 years and thus the first time that any copyrighted music will be open to be sampled (by law) is between the year 2070 and 2080.
    It's all f*cked

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Před 10 měsíci +2

      What's your thoughts and feelings on premade samples that people put out?

    • @jrobbin24
      @jrobbin24 Před 10 měsíci +6

      I hate using them.
      to me a big part of the fun is finding songs to sample and finding the pieces that I would use for a beat. You learn a lot of cool music that way.

    • @ukeguy79
      @ukeguy79 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Wait you can sample if you record the cover yourself? This is all very confusing and new to me.

    • @AaronOstwald
      @AaronOstwald Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@ukeguy79 Yes it's what for examplw Kanye did on "All falls down" when he couldn't clear the original sample.
      He got a singer and a guitarist to make a cover of the sample that he then sampled the way he intended to sample the original song (sorry I forgot the original name but you can look that stuff up if you're interested).
      That's one the high-effort ways to get around clearing a sample
      Crazy stuff.

    • @SeverancePay500
      @SeverancePay500 Před 10 měsíci

      @@NavieDits not bad.. not everyone will play piano like Scott Storch some will be like Dre with a musical vision.. I’m atp where if it sounds good its good music..

  • @thygreatmark
    @thygreatmark Před 10 měsíci

    I subscribed, your videos are dope bro.

  • @grzegorzzielinski6574
    @grzegorzzielinski6574 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Hi @NavieD great content. Started sub recently. Could you give some links or made video on places where we could clear samples? I was trying to figure it out while ago and Im still confused how to search for places or companies that might have rights to sampled pieces. Its not as easy as it could be. There are few samples that I would like to keep recognisable and would like to be able to clear. Thanks man!

  • @prodCristo
    @prodCristo Před 10 měsíci +4

    why are u not goated yet ?

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Před 10 měsíci +5

      Whenever I go to a petting zoo, people start to pet me.
      I am already goated

    • @prodCristo
      @prodCristo Před 10 měsíci

      @@NavieD 🐐🐐🐐🐐

  • @DagiDeBEATZ
    @DagiDeBEATZ Před 10 měsíci +3

    Damn Dre

    • @NavieD
      @NavieD  Před 10 měsíci

      Let us pray for him

  • @kehindeoyegunle8920
    @kehindeoyegunle8920 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Sampling is essential 👌. There would be NO HIPHOP. Without it.

  • @tracksphantom540
    @tracksphantom540 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Please make more videos like this. I could watch endless hour or sequils of this topic like Fast and Furious🎉

  • @saugod
    @saugod Před měsícem +3

    Navie, seriously, what's with the whole 'My people can be very litigious' jab at 1:24? Thanks for trampling on the dignity of all Indians just to score some cheap points with the US sampling crowd. Oh, and nice touch with the tiny icon of Lata Mangeshkar ji, but conveniently forgetting to even utter her name. Bravo! Your petty actions like this perfectly illustrate why our community's respect in the West is a joke. Keep it up, if you want to keep proving just how little you care.

  • @WILLBEATSONYT
    @WILLBEATSONYT Před 10 měsíci +9

    I stay out of trouble by making my own melodies.

  • @bhargavpadaliya
    @bhargavpadaliya Před 10 měsíci

    keep sampling!! thank you guruji. ❤️

  • @duvallbootle5291
    @duvallbootle5291 Před 9 měsíci

    Great info for a up and coming producer.

  • @djdren
    @djdren Před 10 měsíci +3

    sample law should be change ... it just another way to create awareness about the original artist that the new generation dont bother to know ..

  • @user-by2tf3hr3p
    @user-by2tf3hr3p Před 10 měsíci +4

    if you're a producer that samples, you're not an amazing producer... in fact you're not a producer at all

  • @Niyoh16
    @Niyoh16 Před 10 měsíci

    Very nice...thanks, learned a lot...

  • @Delawiz
    @Delawiz Před 7 měsíci +1

    As a producer, I enjoy the beats that I have made everything from scratch, working with instrumentalist is more meaningful than sampling, my opinion.

  • @DarkGloComics
    @DarkGloComics Před 10 měsíci +2

    True Story: I was an artist/producer/engineer from 97-2008. I worked at Guitar Center in Hollywood for a few months. Met Quik, DJ Pooh, Hank Shocklee, and many others. One day, in 2001 I met the guy who had produced that song that was sampled. He told me he had come to LA to settle some matters. Was also pushing music licenses for his other music. Lol

  • @critical
    @critical Před 10 měsíci

    What did the vocals say in the first sample?

  • @arijitpalit2756
    @arijitpalit2756 Před 6 dny

    Even with extensive remixing the Bollywood song is so recognisable that I was quite instantly able to understand which song the sample was taken from.

  • @arnoswonderfox
    @arnoswonderfox Před 9 měsíci

    nice content. thank you mister.

  • @djburna9628
    @djburna9628 Před 10 měsíci +1

    thats crazy i literally just watched a skate video with one of these songs on it. the godzilla sample

  • @madimakes
    @madimakes Před 8 měsíci

    the backbeat of "addictive" is "do it 'til you're satisfied" by B.T. express...though after hearing your recreation, he may have recreated it as well

  • @monab615
    @monab615 Před 10 měsíci

    what are the services you are referring to at 8:34 to help clearing samples? would really appreciate some help! thanks for the great educational and entertaining video :)

  • @k1t362
    @k1t362 Před měsícem

    you quickly become my favourite youtuber

  • @Mike_Benz_
    @Mike_Benz_ Před 10 měsíci +2

    When DJ Quick was playing the tambourine for Dre, Dre probably thought to himself I can really hear the pain and struggle in that last hit of the tambourine, and DJ Quick was like fuckin oath you could cause i was in pain and struggling to continue.