SO WHICH KNIFE SHARPENER IS THE BEST ? - Work Sharp , Tormek , Edge Pro , Wet Stones - HD Video

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  • Hello everyone , this is Nick form HF Survival School and today I'll tell you which knife sharpener is the best for you. Thank you everyone for your support, for your likes , shares and kind comments which I love to respond to. You can view this video in Full HD 1080p
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Komentáře • 288

  • @dtconnelly
    @dtconnelly Před 8 měsíci +11

    I own Japanese water stones, an Edge Pro Apex, and a Work Sharp. I think that your assessment of all of these systems is exactly sport-on, and you've done a great job of summarizing the positives and negatives of each of these systems. Thank you for providing such a detailed and balanced comparison of the different systems.

  • @watchyourtimeco1
    @watchyourtimeco1 Před 3 lety +25

    I've been using the Work Sharp system for a couple of years now and I've never found an easier or more effective system. You can round off your tips if you're not careful, but you get used to it rather quickly and, once you get the muscle memory down, you'll never have that problem again.

  • @prestonian1066
    @prestonian1066 Před rokem +4

    Great video thanks. The greatest thing I can take away from this video is the knowledge that there isn't a complete sharpening system.
    I am absolutely amazed that in this day and age, you can't get a simple and fairly inexpensive piece of kit that is easy to use, quick to set-up, quick to give excellent results, cheap consumables, repeatable and leaves a razor sharp mirror finish.

  • @sharpen-up
    @sharpen-up Před 3 lety +23

    Haha I also have 3 of the Ken Onion Worksharps, haha. I use Tormek T8 and Worksharp as part of my sharpening business and you can sharpen almost anything between the two. Both great products!

    • @sharpen-up
      @sharpen-up Před rokem

      @Commie Hunter All belt grinding tasks a wheel can't necessarily do. Fixing heels, rebuilding tips and a bunch of other things the Tormek could probably do, but not as efficiently imo. You might not benefit from one, but I user them both for different things

  • @Sochmo18
    @Sochmo18 Před 3 lety +11

    FOR ANYONE LOOKING, I recommend going with a Ruixin rx-008 sharpener system for $50. It has a clamp to hold the knife so you don't have to with your other hand, and the stones are decent enough. I would recommend it highly over the edge pro and it fits the higher quality edge pro stones or any other stones designed for it.

    • @erykkrolasik9326
      @erykkrolasik9326 Před 3 lety +4

      I don't. The angle on both sides on the clamp is different. It won't fit smaller knives because the clamp is too wide. And the angle adjustement rod and clamp is badly designed.

  • @TartanJack
    @TartanJack Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you for the real world and honest look at these systems.

  • @falfield
    @falfield Před rokem +1

    First class comparison - thoughtfully presented in including all the practical considerations, and clear and well-articulated. Thank You very much.

  • @backwoodstrails
    @backwoodstrails Před 4 lety +13

    Hi Nick, informative video. I had a carving instructor that said he tried water stones and they didn't work, then he tried oil stones and they didn't work, went to ceramic stones and they didn't work, tried diamond stones and they didn't work.....Then he learned "how" to sharpen and found all those systems worked well.

    • @HFSurvivalSchool
      @HFSurvivalSchool  Před 4 lety +5

      Lol same goes to anything , propper use give you succes and practice makes perfect
      Thanks for watching

  • @Tool-Meister
    @Tool-Meister Před 2 lety +14

    The Worksharp belts can be cleaned with a crepe rubber stick. I have had good luck nearly doubling the working life of the coarse grit belts and getting about 50% life extension on the finer grit belts. Certainly worth the minimal time cleaning the belts.

    • @GG-ml3vr
      @GG-ml3vr Před 2 lety

      What isma crepe rubber stick please,id like to try this👍

    • @Tool-Meister
      @Tool-Meister Před 2 lety

      @@GG-ml3vr search on Amazon. There are several different offerings.

  • @scottmiller5975
    @scottmiller5975 Před 10 měsíci +35

    I'm really pleased with this! It works like a charm czcams.com/users/postUgkxDcr-y2Pf6xdnrFHrSP7dl9kpKaCozcSQ Takes less time than my old electric sharpener because it can take more off the knife faster, and then it smooths out nicely with the finer grit polisher. I don't know how long it will last before the grit wears away, but I wouldn't mind having to replace it every once in a while.

  • @sigzulu6749
    @sigzulu6749 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video. Thank you. I love your honesty.

  • @farisal-salihi3780
    @farisal-salihi3780 Před rokem

    One of the best videos about knife sharpeners and really honest opinion makes me feel I can make a good decision now.
    Thank you again.

  • @HFSurvivalSchool
    @HFSurvivalSchool  Před 4 lety +8

    Hello everyone , sorry for not posting for so long , I have been super busy with custom knives , still am , plus its hot outside and I cant go at my shelter next to the city and don't have time to go in the mountains but soon hopefully I will be more free and I have amazing video ideas for ya as it gets colder. Thanks for watching love you all !
    Nick

  • @gkcamden9050
    @gkcamden9050 Před rokem

    Thank you for taking the time to share your vast experience with these tools.

  • @philipfarnam6013
    @philipfarnam6013 Před rokem

    Thanks for this video. Much superior to most.
    About the WorkSharp system....I am typical homeowner guy, not commercial. A couple of unmentioned benefits: #1 Belt sharpening produces a convex edge which lasts longer in-use. #2 WorkSharp also offers diamond-grit belts that allow me to maintain my otherwise-unsharpenable ceramic blades. The unit is easy to understand and use properly. Various grits allow fineness of edge to whatever degree you choose including leather strop at the end if you want. My resharpened edges are equivelant or better than factory, last longer and are accomplished within minutes per-blade.

  • @Rood67
    @Rood67 Před 5 měsíci

    I’m three years late to this party but so glad the CZcams algorithm presented this video to me.
    *Excellent review*. I recently ordered a Ken Onion Elite system directly from Worksharp, and waiting on it to arrive. This review makes me feel better about my purchase as it was compared to some systems I hadn’t seen demonstrated before.

  • @James-ke5sx
    @James-ke5sx Před 3 lety +1

    You just cost me money, I'm sending you the bill.
    I have about 200 knives but I've only used a steel rod for my kitchen knives and have been wanting to buy a good sharpening system.
    Now I know what I want.
    Thanks very much, great info from a pro. I will get the #4 model eventually.

  • @thomasgronek6469
    @thomasgronek6469 Před rokem +1

    Good stones are expensive, good technique: Priceless. One cannot buy practice or technique, it must be earned; with sweat and blood.

  • @K3Flyguy
    @K3Flyguy Před 2 lety

    Excellent video! Thank you for sharing your time!

  • @vvjkumar
    @vvjkumar Před 2 lety

    Thank you very much for doing a very objective review. You are a good teacher with a lot of patience,

  • @timjackson5555
    @timjackson5555 Před 3 lety +9

    The Tormek T8 comes with everything to sharpen knives, scissors, axes, chisels, wood planes blades.
    You neglected the wheel on that T4 why it is hopping. It needs trued up and comes in most kits other than just the bare grinder.
    Plus I use the diamond wheel.
    I Am a professional bladesmith.
    I go from my 2x72 KMG-TX , then by hand on oil stones. Strop
    Might use my Tormek
    The wicked sharp is another great option not mentioned.

    • @crrassh69
      @crrassh69 Před 2 lety +1

      I think the stone looks out of true because he left it in the water and that part that was in the water swelled. If he dropped the tray and let the stone dry out it will be much more true.

  • @VortymLichbane
    @VortymLichbane Před 4 lety +13

    Great video! The Edge Pro is my favourite for the reasons you say but also because I'm afraid of removing too much metal with an electric sharpener at low grit numbers. Great for getting an accurate angle back on a blade that has been sharpened freehand for a while.

    • @HFSurvivalSchool
      @HFSurvivalSchool  Před 4 lety +3

      Yep , it is very easy to mess up a blade and its hard to fix it later.Thanks for watching
      Stay safe
      Nick

  • @shawnlavigne9069
    @shawnlavigne9069 Před 2 lety +5

    1 year later, and you are still right. This is a great vid for anyone wanting to start a sharpening business. I started a small home based sharpening business and things are going well. I bought a t4. And it wasn't long before I sold it, it's slow, requires a lot of maintenance, and I wasn't super impressed with the edges I was getting. I also have the the worksharp KO with blade grinder attachment. What can I say, from the start, this thing agreed with me. It's my go to machine. I pretty well do everything I get on this, except for specialty work, in which case I use a KME. So like you, I recommend the worksharp KO with blade grinder. Peace.

    • @HFSurvivalSchool
      @HFSurvivalSchool  Před 2 lety +2

      Good to hear this , for special knives I have the TS Prof Kadet

  • @ggarciacota
    @ggarciacota Před 4 měsíci

    Awesome video Nick!! Thank you very much for sharing this valuable information in such a detailed and clear way. It’s helped me a lot with my decision. God Bless you too.

  • @whatbuttondoipush
    @whatbuttondoipush Před 3 lety +17

    for the work sharp, you don't need to buy from the company. You can buy air sanding belts in 1/2"x12" for $20 for 20 or a multipack of 80,320,800,5000 grit (ten total) for $15. The 1/2x12 is for the worksharp classic model WSKTS.

    • @jasonmiller9495
      @jasonmiller9495 Před 3 lety

      I just got the second version of the classic tool and knife sharpener. Will those belts work for it too?

    • @whatbuttondoipush
      @whatbuttondoipush Před 3 lety

      @@jasonmiller9495 sorry i don't know. Just look up air file and the belt length and width. Mcmaster carr should have them, but i think you could find better brands for cheaper. Good luck!

  • @andrewvan-aarde5697
    @andrewvan-aarde5697 Před 2 lety +11

    With the Tormek, there is a grading tool that you need to purchase with it that will keep the stone "trued" and extend its life by keeping it round

  • @burfmech6675
    @burfmech6675 Před 3 lety +2

    Great video brother, learned alot!!!

  • @dariuschmieliauskas
    @dariuschmieliauskas Před rokem

    Thank you for great comparison. Really helpful

  • @wilfriedvomacka1783
    @wilfriedvomacka1783 Před rokem

    Wow, thank you for sharing a ton of information! This really helped me. Subscribed

  • @lyonsharpeningservice2896

    I have two Tormek T-8 systems. One is for heavy work and the other one has the Japanese waterstone on it all the time. This to me is the best option for as there is no heat involved and there is no dust from sharpening. All of the shaving are contained in the water tray. A bit of an investment at first but well worth the money.

    • @pete3882
      @pete3882 Před rokem

      I'm am just looking to do some expensive kitchen knives, occasionally my chisels. Looking at the t-8. I never sharpened anything. Always wanted a tormek since I can remember. Is it worth the splurge only live once. I like how u have 2, but I won't do 2.

    • @wamote6867
      @wamote6867 Před rokem +1

      @@pete3882 It is easy to change the stone, I you want or need to do it.

  • @tomhenry4993
    @tomhenry4993 Před 2 lety

    Thanks so much for an excellent review!

  • @jdog4534
    @jdog4534 Před rokem

    Ive had my Tormek since the 90s. There are way more attachments than you mentioned. It's an excellent way to sharpen my turning tools, including my gouges. ..of course, it takes another jig. They also have very fine whet stones for it, as well as a jig for sharpening drill bits. Its a very versatile machine. I agree that it's an expensive machine. I think the one like you have is actually a smaller diameter than the older ones which makes a more hollow grind.. that's the big downside for me.
    Thanks for showing your technique for using that lapping work sharp stand. I have a similar one that i had to rebuild to make it sturdy and actually clamp down on my knives. I never thought to use the clamp as a guide and just hold my knives in place like you did. I'll try it like that next time.. thanks for the tip

  • @user-tf6pq3tn4m
    @user-tf6pq3tn4m Před 8 měsíci

    Great video for touching on almost all sharpening systems.

  • @philsummers9931
    @philsummers9931 Před 3 lety

    Thank you! Great Vid. 🇦🇺

  • @carloscast1
    @carloscast1 Před 3 lety +2

    Expert advice. Thank you for the video.

  • @nashuaslick
    @nashuaslick Před 2 lety +1

    Have 2 WS3000's. It is worth spending the money on the OEM discs because they are designed to last longer and more importantly to cool properly. Aftermarket sandpaper can overheat your tool and mess up your blade temper. I can buy 2 ws3000's for less than one Tormak and I keep them set up with paper on one and leather on the other for constant touchup sharpening.

  • @maxmcrae379
    @maxmcrae379 Před rokem

    Interesting that you recommend the Work Sharp system. Here in New Zealand we have the Scary Sharp NZ product that us very similar to the Work Sharp. I pleased to say that I own one of these and its ability to hone a knife is outstanding. Nice vid - thanks for sharing.

  • @budcarr8673
    @budcarr8673 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video. Thank you

  • @jbogesvang
    @jbogesvang Před 2 lety +3

    Your vid is helpful--thx! I bought and used the Apex Edge Pro (EP) about 15 years back and the basic Ken Onion (KO) about 3 years ago. Looks like the EP has significant improvements. The KO is so darn easy, fast, repeatable, compact, cheap, etc that it's hard to beat for personal sharpening. Now you're making me want the blade grinder attachment. Question: Do you wear eye pro when using the Ken Onion? I agree with all you said and appreciate your insights. Thanks again!

  • @antonzanker
    @antonzanker Před rokem

    Thank you! Apex was great to see!

  • @cryptosamie4873
    @cryptosamie4873 Před rokem

    Great comparison! I just bought the Bavarian and sounds like it was a good choice. Some of my knives are so dull I couldn't cut my wrist if I tried.😊 The Bavarian is a three step. They recommend about 2 to 3 strokes with the handle up, then 2 to 3 strokes with the handle down, then spread the top of the X and pull the knife gently back and forth to polish. Can't wait to cut something.

    • @skylersteve1
      @skylersteve1 Před rokem

      Your video is very well done. You're knowledgeable and well-informed. Thanks for a great video.

  • @Ten_Mil_Will
    @Ten_Mil_Will Před měsícem

    I have the Ken Onion Work Sharp (with Blade Grinding Attachment). I love it. I can easily take a knife from dull to shaving sharp in a hurry and get 5 packs of belts for 20bux. If the guys at work want their knife sharpened, thats what it goes on. I also have an Edge Pro Apex. THAT is for my own knives. The Apex creates thise edges that no1 else has 😎

  • @Jeffrose_
    @Jeffrose_ Před 3 lety +7

    I also have the edge pro apex. I love it. I can easily get a mirror edge.

  • @johnnyventurino8947
    @johnnyventurino8947 Před 2 lety +1

    I really appreciate it very much all the time you spent showing us how these sharpeners work. I own a Workshop precision Angle adjusted sharpener and bought the Gritomatic Rod attachment holder so I can use 4 inch stones with it. What do you think of that sharpener system my friend. Thank you.

  • @simonwoods7802
    @simonwoods7802 Před 2 lety +3

    Very interesting. Thanks. You really need to true up your Tormek Stone though. It’s about as round as a rugby ball!

  • @RobertBranch-FL
    @RobertBranch-FL Před 2 lety

    Thank you for your insight!

  • @havinfun44884488
    @havinfun44884488 Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome review!

  • @REBELSCL
    @REBELSCL Před rokem

    I’m just starting out as a knife collector and I bought a Work Sharp Ken Onion 2nd generation. I haven’t used it yet but am kinda concerned about convex edges… My intention was to get a straight edge and intend to do most of my pocket knives around 17-18 degrees per side.. I’m going to use a junk knife to practice with… IE: sharpen/blunt/ resharpen…. till I get somewhat proficient at it.. I don’t want to risk ruining my blades…

  • @spitfire83
    @spitfire83 Před 10 měsíci

    Thank you for the video, very useful!

  • @deplorabledave1048
    @deplorabledave1048 Před rokem +1

    In the USA, the cost of those one inch belts for the Work Sharp attachment have gone WAY down...aftermarket belts as low as $2.00 each!! Lots of choices, even a naked leather strop belt ready to absorb the heated color compound of your choice. I recommend the green compound.

  • @greggdilligaffshelly
    @greggdilligaffshelly Před měsícem

    That was informative. Zero chance I'll waste money on any of them.
    You just sold me on wicked edge Gen 4

  • @jed88
    @jed88 Před 2 lety

    Very helpful. Thank you.

  • @warrenbrett3758
    @warrenbrett3758 Před 4 lety +13

    Wicked Edge should be included in this comparison

    • @roydunn4649
      @roydunn4649 Před 2 lety

      Like kitchen knives on the EdgePro. The Wicked Edge is way better for pocket knives and shorter hunting/skinning knives.
      I have sharpened free hand for years on diamond and natural stones but was taught when very young by my grandfather. If I was going to do it for a living I think I would buy a combo like both the Formal and the Edge pro. The Tormak is also very good for chisels etc in a woodshop.
      Besides, the Wicked Edge is VERY cost prohibitive if you want all of the best stones etc.

    • @roydunn4649
      @roydunn4649 Před 2 lety

      EdgePro does exactly what the Wicked Edge does. Plus it is WAY easier to do larger knives

  • @jrmac53
    @jrmac53 Před 2 lety

    Great Video! Thank you!

  • @robcarr8505
    @robcarr8505 Před rokem +1

    I was on the fence before I watched your video but now I know what system I'm going to purchase. You just sold an edgepro.

  • @WestChesterMike
    @WestChesterMike Před rokem +2

    You can get 1x18 from a third party 28 belts for $14. 80,120,240,400,600,800,1000 grits. 4 belts of each grit. My work sharp Ken onion has about 300 hours on it. I also bought 5000 grit and leather stroping belts to really refine a sharp edge

    • @mihirgovilkar
      @mihirgovilkar Před rokem

      Can you please share the link to any third party vendor?

  • @KwizatsHaderach
    @KwizatsHaderach Před 3 lety

    Edge Pro it is than. Thanks a lot Nick.

  • @dadornet
    @dadornet Před 3 lety +2

    Great comprehensive review!!
    I’m an OCD, bi-polar maniac who has a renewed obsession to knives and sharpening. I have an Edge Pro, grinder w paper wheels, various stones and leather strops.
    I achieved a few mirror finishes on the Edge Pro w very expensive after-market stones, and literally never even removed the grinder from its box. My focus is renewed on the Edge Pro for custom knives, and finally gave up on my obsession w purchasing the water wheels. I can utilize the bench grinder for mower blades, axes, etc as a side business to legally compensate my disability benefits while keeping my mind focused.
    Appreciate the video!! Best sharpening review I’ve seen!!

    • @HFSurvivalSchool
      @HFSurvivalSchool  Před 3 lety

      Thanks for your comment much appreciate it.
      Best of luck to you

  • @phillipl9697
    @phillipl9697 Před 3 lety

    Great presentation very informative. Would the edge pro be OK for barbers scissors? Or what else could you recommend? Thanks

  • @gregoryhare7268
    @gregoryhare7268 Před 4 lety +1

    I like to thank you for showing all your shaping machines and stone's they are introducing and i have seen a lot but i can not afford much but I'm still looking for a knife shaper that's good but not to expensive but to give me a very sharp knife.

    • @HFSurvivalSchool
      @HFSurvivalSchool  Před 4 lety +2

      Just buy one soft and one hard arkansas stones , they will be about 30$ and you will be good, thanks for watching

  • @jasonpatio8338
    @jasonpatio8338 Před 3 lety

    I'm learning. Thanks

  • @zdrgdr
    @zdrgdr Před 3 lety

    Thank you for this video

  • @kirkbyars243
    @kirkbyars243 Před 3 měsíci

    Great content. You will get better results from the Tormek system if you true up the stone. This stone sometimes need to be trued out of the box. A few minutes with the truing attachments and you can get surgical quality sharpness every time and the T4 is well worth the price.
    Thanks again,

  • @nickgamble4544
    @nickgamble4544 Před 2 lety +1

    I mean the term best sharpener is going to be all depending on the stipulations of what the goal is. Do you want a sharp knife or do you want a wicked sharp knife. By all means almost any sharpener will make a knife (sharp). The worksharp is a great choice for anyone you can make a knife sharp or use a little talent and skill and make it wicked sharp pretty easily. The stones and kits that use stones take more skill more time and get better results but it's at the cost of alot more time and possibly money too. I recently got the Ken onion and I love it, got a pack of cheap belts that are not worksharp brand but work very well. I have no issue getting a razor edge even on a badly damaged knife in comparison to my last kit the time difference is what's the biggest deal to me

  • @bucstart
    @bucstart Před rokem +3

    Hey Nick. Thanks for a great and detailed video. That definitely took some time to put together. I have both the EdgePro Professional and the Wicked Edge Gen 3 and love them both. I used to freehand for years and still love the feeling of having the knife in my hand as I sharpen, so I lean towards the EdgePro for my detailed work. I will admit, if I'm doing a lot of knives, I'll go with the Wicked Edge almost every time. Both are absolutely top of the line machines, so you can't go wrong with either!!

    • @crisnevin7934
      @crisnevin7934 Před rokem

      +1 for Wicked Edge. I don't own one yet, but I love the design and idea behind it, and I want one desperately.

  • @jackmehoff2961
    @jackmehoff2961 Před 4 lety +2

    Great to see you`re doing well, and have been busy.
    That last sharpener looked great to me.
    All my kitchen knives can`t cut butter,
    that looks like it would be great for my kitchen knives.
    Great to see you again, Thank You for sharing your
    video, and your wisdom with us .
    Take care, and God Bless !

  • @jazic82
    @jazic82 Před 3 lety +1

    Tormeks have a truing tool. I use it to keep my regular stone and polishing stone identical.

  • @dimitrisd.9173
    @dimitrisd.9173 Před rokem

    A very good video to pinpoint the serious pros and cons of each one. The Tormek has some crazy wobble on both wheels, if this is only after 50 sharpening jobs, it is just bad.
    The Work Sharp KO seems to work so well for 99% of the uses. The only thing I don't like is that the "push" grinding function becomes a "pull" grinding when you flip sides. The Work Sharp with the blade sharpening attachement avoids that problem, but then you better have some steady hands for accurate sharpening.
    The Edge Pro seems so well designed, for sure one of the top choices for a manual sharpening method.

    • @johnharvey4496
      @johnharvey4496 Před rokem

      Yeah I reckon the Tormek main wheel is running eccentric; surely it wouldn't come from the factory like that. Perhaps the hole in the wheel is too big for the driving shaft. Whatever the cause, it needs dressing down with a diamond point - unlikely you can do that with the speed setting on this machine

  • @ken244
    @ken244 Před rokem

    excellent reviews Thanks

  • @jonfornwald
    @jonfornwald Před 4 lety +3

    Good to hear from you Nick. Lots of good info as always 👍
    Thanks and God bless you and your family.

  • @judgetoogood1033
    @judgetoogood1033 Před 11 měsíci

    I love my Tormek T8❤❤❤. I have all the Tormek Tools. Cost is not a CON. I have already paid for it. 😊😊😊

  • @deguello66
    @deguello66 Před 3 měsíci

    The best knife sharpening system is the one YOU are most knowledgeable of, most skilled with, most comfortable with, and understand best how to use. I'm referring to everyone reading this comment.

  • @sjt275
    @sjt275 Před 7 měsíci

    I sharpen my knives with an Arkansas stone ,diamond plates and a suede split strop all by hand all by eye and feel so fast so easy you just have to develop the skill and then its like riding a bike ,you never forget !

  • @julienglasse23
    @julienglasse23 Před 3 lety

    Great video very helpful

  • @gregorym9591
    @gregorym9591 Před 3 lety +2

    I hate a dull knife ! I found going to someones home where they have me help in the kitchen and the knife is dull I have been caught in a pinch using the exposed ceramic on the bottom of a cup or bowl to bring back some sort of cutting edge on a knife. People just don't know how important a sharp blade is in the home.
    Thank you for an HONEST review on the different systems. I have gone thru a few systems after looking at many, many videos that will not tell you the real truth on problems with each system.
    I don't see it mentioned in videos when using belt sanders your knife will wear fast. With a wet stone it takes a lot and I mean a lot of practice to get a sharp strong edge. And not to mention the maintenance for the stone to keep it flat. You do mention the down side for the units which is very important when deciding a system that will be good for you. And not to mention the cost for belts . LOL LOL
    I started out many years ago with the wet stones going up to 6k . I know it's me that couldn't achieve a good sharp edge and not the stones. I found the HF 1 x 30 which gave me a great sharp edge but was waisting the knife material . The HF unit is way too fast so the knife must be cooled with water often along with very light pressure against the belt. The strops turning too fast also will round out the sharpened knife edge so you must re edge the blade.
    Then a few months ago I just started using the tspro unit from Russia . I really like it . along with a foot long strop with green paste on one side and white paste on the other. The blades stay sharp and have a mirror finish also don't remove a lot of material from the blade. I am using the strop a lot after using the knife. I find the time while watching the tv .

  • @Capmybets
    @Capmybets Před 2 lety

    I have the work sharp and while for the money it’s ok to keep your knives at a decent working edge, I wish there was a platen behind the belt for some contact.

  • @shawnlavigne9069
    @shawnlavigne9069 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for this informative vid.

  • @WvMnts
    @WvMnts Před 3 lety

    Thanks man a lot of good information👍

  • @chrislawson7675
    @chrislawson7675 Před rokem

    Great video, thanks

  • @dawjy9413
    @dawjy9413 Před 3 lety

    For the workshop I use it to remove chipping but not to hone or create and edge bc if you notice the belt sinks in giving you an inaccurate angle/edge. You'll notice it when you cut paper and the paper tends to slice in an uncontrollable angle vs straight through. You should use something with more precision after.

    • @spijlt8117
      @spijlt8117 Před 2 lety +2

      It's called a convex edge and it is a good thing

  • @tedwutang
    @tedwutang Před 3 lety +1

    here is a thought for you HF Survival School. You like the belt grinder system. Im wont say anything against your preference however seeing you wear the belt so fast have you consider the price of larger sand paper sheets. Maybe buy bulk from manufacture make further deal. Then just matter of trimming to size and glue to old used belt.

  • @boarivoj5571
    @boarivoj5571 Před 2 lety

    hey mate ,im thinking to buy Tormek, would you recommend me getting the normal knife jig, or going directly on a long knife jig?
    ty

  • @WestChesterMike
    @WestChesterMike Před 3 lety +3

    I have all the products you demonstrated. I used the work sharp with the knife grinder attachment almost exclusively. I found belts on line that are reasonable 18 belts for $11 American. I also found 5000 grit belts that when the get worn out I use as stropping belts with diamond paste that is 200,000 grit. Under a magnifying glass ALL scratched are gone. Also if you move the top two wheel closer together, Allen wrench required, you can get a let’s con-vexed edge. So still stronger edge and sharper. I’ve been using my Ken Onion w/ knife grinding attachment for 2 or more years, at full blast. Well over 300 hours. One in awhile I clean it out what little there is to clean. Especially since I use white, green stropping compound which get all over the place as well as the diamond paste mentioned earlier. I like the Tormek but the wheels are always slightly out of round and square around the edge. There is maintenance to be done always. Keeping clean water in the reservoir. Cleaning the wheel and other things. It works GREAT. The Edge Pro is also incredible. It versatility of the work sharp with the attachment I can sharpen axes, loppers, knives of any length, hatchets, and so on. Wow that was a long post! Loved your video and like you said, it all about what you’re comfortable with. I have Hugh end Japanese water stone from 300 to 15,000 grit along with diamond stones for when I’m in a hurry. If I’m doing a chefs Yanagiba, I only use the water stone. Right product for the right job. Keep the videos coming. I found it very accurate!

    • @beegee14
      @beegee14 Před 2 lety

      May i ask why you find the worksharp inappropriate for a yanagiba? Just learning. Great comment

    • @WestChesterMike
      @WestChesterMike Před 2 lety +1

      @@beegee14 good question! Any belt sharpener will give you a bulged profile as in the edge isn’t completely flat because of the flex of the belt. This edge is great for a two sided edge but for a single edge with a secondary bevel and the concaved back I find flat water stones better for me. You can use the Ken Onion w/knife grinder attachment I just prefer not to with
      Yanagibas It would be like sharpening a chisel on that gear. It could work but why. The flats are as important as the edge.
      With a regular double sided edge the belts leave more mass behind the apex for, hypothetically,, a longer lasting edge. I hope that helps

  • @supersymun
    @supersymun Před 4 lety +2

    Thanks little brother! Lotta money on those, and you don’t need to spend on mechanical unless you have deep chips or nicks. Spyderco sharpmaker ($100) is good for maintenance, Lansky ($40) is good for consistent or reprofiling edges, Japanese water stone ($100) for detail and a leather strop drill attachment ($25) with compound ($20) for mirror. If I get nicks or buy a new knife with secondary bevel, I use a 4” sanding belt ($120) with 80 or 120grit to get started. Burr first, then move to the more fine sanding. I can’t stand the weak concave edge of a bench grinder.

    • @HFSurvivalSchool
      @HFSurvivalSchool  Před 4 lety

      On my outdoor knives I just used a 1000 grit arkansas pocket stone to do the job both on knives and axes and it the job great , but was lots of work taking out nicks , there are many other sharpeners as well , all have pros and cons some more then others.
      Stay safe
      Nick

    • @slyfox4564
      @slyfox4564 Před 4 lety

      You can get 2 or 3 dual grit stones on amazon for 20 to 30 each and they work pretty good considering that you could pay more than that on one japanese stone

  • @KennyT187
    @KennyT187 Před rokem +1

    Very nice and informative video! But I have to nitpick about terminology; they're not "wet stones" but whetstones which comes from the verb "to whet" = to sharpen with grinding strokes.

  • @rogerconen770
    @rogerconen770 Před 4 lety +2

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    Nick, great video! I already have the edge pro in my amazon cart. Thanks for taking the time to show us all your knife sharpening tools.

  • @blufordbirdsong1834
    @blufordbirdsong1834 Před 3 lety +3

    Very helpful. I am a novice knife maker, but struggle with getting a good edge on the knives I make. Based on your info provided, it sounds as if the Edge Pro might be a good choice. Would you agree? Tormek is more than I want to spend, and frankly too fiddly. I would be afraid of the Ken Onion scratching a new knife. Any opinion on the Lansky systems? Thanks

  • @seasterl
    @seasterl Před 2 lety

    How would you compare the Apex to the Wicked Edge in terms of how quickly you can achieve the same mirror finish and perfect edge?

  • @BenjiSun
    @BenjiSun Před 4 lety +4

    oh wow, really detailed info on the different sharpeners. stay safe and i hope to see your next video soon~

  • @curtisstewart3179
    @curtisstewart3179 Před rokem

    Excellent video.

  • @bekabeka71
    @bekabeka71 Před 4 lety

    Good to see you back mate 👌🏼☘️🇬🇪 gaagrdzele mase

    • @beaker1969m
      @beaker1969m Před 3 lety

      He said he sharpened a lot of Kvives so here is a little tip for extreme change in result: use a TT-50 and make your stone round. I´ve never seen a stone this bad.

  • @conesbymaggie1469
    @conesbymaggie1469 Před 8 měsíci

    "That's what she said." I see what you did there! Thanks for this video!

  • @Platoface
    @Platoface Před 7 měsíci

    I’ve gone from stones to the Tormek to a TSProf Kadet Pro. I highly recommend the TSProf Kadet. It’s therapy.

    • @HFSurvivalSchool
      @HFSurvivalSchool  Před 7 měsíci

      I have picked that up and thats the thing I use the most for high end knives

  • @slyfox4564
    @slyfox4564 Před 4 lety

    The work sharp pocket sharpener is the best for the price in my opinion. And I have the cheaper worksharp and it works just as good as the more expensive one if you're decent at free handing

    • @HFSurvivalSchool
      @HFSurvivalSchool  Před 4 lety +1

      I've used only 1000 grit arkansas pocket stone for 6 years and didnt have any problems , always had mirror polished edges , took quite some time though

  • @scotthodson2467
    @scotthodson2467 Před 2 lety +2

    Wow, Nick! This was great. I have recently decided my scissors, EDC knives and cooking knives are ridiculously poor excuses for sharp objects. I have watched hours of sharpening CZcams videos, there are a lot of options surely, about making a knife sharp. Watching this video was time well spent and I will definitely review again and check out your other contributions. I hope you do or have done some on different cooking knives and your experience with them. Eager to learn from you sir! God bless you as we head into the Christmas and holiday season of 2021 and the new year. Be safe

    • @HFSurvivalSchool
      @HFSurvivalSchool  Před 2 lety

      Thank you very much , I'm glade you like it ! if you are into more precise sharpening , I will be posting an update of a video with new stuff that I have.
      God bless
      Nick

  • @JustinGoldsmith
    @JustinGoldsmith Před 2 lety

    This was a werry good video. Lol. Thank you.

  • @jaren_c
    @jaren_c Před 4 lety

    Good to see ya again nick

  • @andrewsteinberg7103
    @andrewsteinberg7103 Před 3 lety +1

    i have my original Ben Dale's apex sharpener for maybe 20 years now and is still woring fine, i do not use it often, i use it basically for pocket knives of what some call a gentleman's folder, also keeps me from scratching blade face, however i with my fixed blade work knives the plain v edge, the apex and others like it can never come close to a convex edge, i learned with even a good 200 dollar high quality work knife, camping and survival especially , i will change the factory v edge and put my wn convex, the cutting is so much better, u can by in thrift cheap knives and u tube has many vids on how to covex a v edge to a convex edge. Befor factory edge knife making all knives wer mostly a convex, whan you sharpen by hand you hand naturally cures at end of the push stroke, is we get scratches their are ways to get rid of most of them possibly leaving some marring on plade face, but, that is not important, performance is, i large chapper will not chop nearly as good as a convex edge and so easy to hand resharpen

  • @2455keith
    @2455keith Před 4 lety

    Great informative video nick 👍

  • @kiwicory100
    @kiwicory100 Před 3 lety

    hey what is the best for a 9" chef knife? Thanks for the video