100% agreed with mouth tape, for all the reasons you stated and the others don't even seem to consider. Additionally I have nasal cycling and occasional complete nasal blockage because of this. Hence waking up with dry mouth. If you add in mouth tape = suffocation. And this is with a full face mask and maxed humidification.
I abhorred the idea of taping my mouth and I was doing pretty good (4-5). But, I followed a CZcams and tried taping. Wow, my scores did way better (>2) and my mouth stopped being dry at all.
Mouth tape works perfectly for those who are mouth breathers. Been using tape for two years without issue. Chin straps don't work for people who are mouth breathers. Knightsbridge chin strap works well…
No such thing as mouth breathers. We were born with a nose for a reason. What happens, especially if apnea was diagnosed later in life, is your not getting enough air through the nose so your body takes more air in through the mouth. This can be corrected with mouth tape or a chin strap.
I have been using mouth tape for years , but in the last 2 weeks I have been experiencing severe mouth dryness. I am adjusting my humidity and temps go try to alleviate this. So far with not much success.
i believe i only saw one response here that mentioned using a soft cervical collar for folks who end up with dry mouth in the morning. it's not always a "moth breathing" problem. chin straps may--or may not--be the answer. for me, they weren't. once i got a good fitting scc, i have almost zero dry mouth problems. you need to make sure you get a good fit.
I tape my mouth and for just-in-case safety reasons I plug a power monitor in the same electrical outlet my CPAP machine uses. If the power goes out for 5 seconds a horn goes off. You can get an app for your phone for almost nothing that senses if the charging power goes off to your phone and will set off an alarm thru your phone speaker. In case of an internal failure of the CPAP machine I use a SPO2 ring monitor set to vibrate at its strongest level to wake me if my SPO2 saturation level goes below 90%. Finally I dog-ear a corner of the tape to make it easy to rip off instantly if needed (I never have). Use common sense of course, if you're stuffed up with a cold, sinusitis or allergies then no mouth taping, duh. Try putting your mask on and power up your machine while laying down as normal then have someone unplug the machine to see what it feels like, you'll see the world doesn't end. There are anti-asphyxiation features built into the mask. Don't just shut off the machine because the Resmed 10 for example automatically runs a 30 minute low pressure hose drying cycle when you turn it off with the switch so that would not simulate a power failure. I have never heard of anyone dying or injured from mouth taping.
I'm ready to throw the whole situation out on the street because of dry mouth. My mouth feels like leather inside now. I've tried every tip and advice you and everyone else mentioned. I've concluded my throat closes when I sleep and the air just blows in the closed system, which is my taped mouth. My mouth can open with the type of tape I use, if necessary.
Do you have any reported instances of people suffocating who use a CPAP machine and tape their mouth shut? Also, any reported instances of people having a medical issue because they breathed in their own Co2 while using a CPAP. I tape my mouth shut and you are the first person I have heard that warns against this practice.
Yes, I would like to hear about any reports of actual problems. I spoke to my doctor and he said it was a good idea. Using mouth tape has been more effective than chin straps.
New to CPAP , have dry mouth , was going to try mouth tape . Glad I didn't . Found your presentation to be informative and delivered by a sensible honest guy . Thanks .
Understand the risks of mouth tape as you lay out. But nothing worked for me until I started using - about four years ago. I only tape the middle third of my mouth, so I can still breath through my mouth if needed. Whether my body would do that when I am asleep is a question. But the is no question as to how much better I feel after a night with mouth tape vs without. I use a nasal pillows mask.
I have Sjorgens syndrome which one of symptoms is dry mouth. Even tho I advised Respirologist 3x of this and mentioning to technician I wasn't advised of a heated tube so after researching found out about heated tubing purchased which helped yet still quite dry so I found a X shaped tape which helped. I did not want a straight tape. The X does allow for exhalation which I have done. My mouth is back at least to pre CPAP dry mouth. The heated tube also reduced my dry eye another sjorgens symptom which had got worse again with CPAP.
Good comments re mouth tape and yes we've come across a lot of patients who have tried it and wonder why they have a morning headache......co2 retention most likely suspect.
I’ve been suffering dry mouth for years….before and since I got my cPap….then about 6 months ago, someone suggested I put little smear a little toothpaste on the end of my finger and put it onto my tongue just as I was getting into bed. Works perfectly
Can't use chin strap because of a bite-guard on my upper teeth. While wearing the chin strap, my lower jaw is out of alignment with regard to the bite guard, and so not workable; it moves my jaw too much. Taping I'm still trying. Wan to try a postage-stamp sized piece that won't prevent my mouth from opening, but I'm not sure it will be effective. In any case, I'm still struggling to fall asleep with the nasal pillows in place, no less the tape.
Ok, you mention the risk of having a closed cycle in case of a malfunction of the CPAP machine in case of using mouth tape. What about people using a fullface mask? Isn't it the same even with no mouth tape involved? In my nasal pillow mask there's a vent at the mask itself, allowing at least some air in and out in case you'd block your tube for some reason. Isn't that the safety precaution?
As far as power going out, get a battery backup. Like the one you should have on your desktop computer. If the power goes out it beeps but continues to power the cpap. Beep = wake.
another serious consideration with mouth tape is Vomiting. maybe u eat something off or have one too many and get sick at night. with your mouth taped shut + pressure there a high risk of it going down into your lungs and your stomach contents will wreak havoc on your lungs. don't get me wrong, mouth taping IS effective, i used KT tape ( kinesiology tape) which sticks pretty well, and allows u to breath thru it but I'm gonna try a FFM because my nasal congestion is just too unbearable and the machine just ends up blowing max pressure up my nose which would wake me up.
Safety issues aside, taping did not prevent air from leaking into my mouth. I'd still wake up with a mouth full of air and have to force it back into my nasal passages. Even with max pressure lowered to 8, air still leaks into my mouth and it ends up dry dry dry when I'm using a nasal pillow mask, which is otherwise fine. I hate the full face mask because it gets very uncomfortable after about 4 hours, and air starts leaking out around the edges... but it does keep me from having dry mouth. Still looking for a solution.
I have always breath through my mouth, and when I was diagnosed of having severe obstructive Sleep Apnea. I have always used a full face mask. I use a philips dreamstation with a AirFit F30i.
I am horrified by the thought of my mouth being taped shut while I sleep - especially after I've already had a heart failure in my sleep, and I've woken up plenty of times while gasping for breath. No, I'm team cpap with full face mask all the way! There's literally nothing better than the feeling of air being pushed into my lungs whether it be through my nose or mouth. I wake up feeling like I can take over the world. It feels like I'm high on oxygen!
* Presenter (Tristan): - Yes, I agree that it would be useful to let Graphics remain ON-SCREEN longer to let Viewers Read and Process your Point. * Commenter/Viewers (Dieudo): - what I had to do (and you can to) is to LEFT-TAP on the Screen to Back-up, and then PAUSE the Video to Read/Review.
😊 Click the GEAR icon in the upper right corner (that’s where it is on my screen), and then you can select playback speed. If you then choose .75X, your video and audio speed will be slower.
I have an airfit n20 and I use a chinstrap, I notice when I use the chinstrap on my myAir app the leaks can go almost pass 24 L. Where when I use mouth tape the leak is less than that do you know why that is? When I use other masks the leak on the app aren’t as high it’s only the N20 mask.
My problem is not dry mouth, it's mouth leaking. I don't want to go to a full mask because I want the benefits of nose breathing. Going to try tape with a dime-sized slot cut into it.
When I use a chin strap my mouth does not relax open. That’s what I use. BUT I came here cause the strap is now causing dental issues etc. if the strap keeps my mouth closed… then how would tape be more dangerous than a strap?
Hi there, under the green "in stock" indicator, you will see "Sizing Guide" below. (product page example below) thecpapstore.ca/collections/masks/products/evora-full-face-cpap-mask We will work on making this button easier to find. Thank you for your comment, have a great day!
Hello I have a ResMed machine , my mask is under my nose and covers my mouth , my machine is telling me in the morning that I don’t have a leak, but my mouth is so dry , I’m beginning to feel unwell, and mucus in the morning , my machine is set to 27 4 pressure can you help me please
I have to play this as I have rhinoplasty- after using the cpap the next day nose runs all day and possibly the 1st but by the 2nd day - I have the runny nose and sneezing
I was thinking about taping my mouth. Those mouth tapes come out very easily without any struggle. I don't see how anybody above 2 years old may get suffocated because cannot remove a light tape from his mouth, specially when the need to breathe, is one of the strongest survival instincts in human beings.
@@gayleneflower398 I buy them on amazon .I use them everyday .My dry mouth is so bad I have lost 6 teeth in the past 2 years and the dentist said i will lose more .The dentist said cavities which take over 4 years to develop normally took 6 months for me because of dry mouth and little saliva . It is weird ... I have been using cpap for 12 years but the dental issue started 2 years ago
We have been wearing a face mask for covid, breathing back in the same air. You will be alright for a few hours without a cpap machine if power goes out. Tape works fine for dry mouth for ME. Maybe not for others. Overall, great information. Thank you
Thanks for your video. As mouth taping has been discussed in the video, and remains controversial, you might consider adding some medical references to this video
100% agreed with mouth tape, for all the reasons you stated and the others don't even seem to consider. Additionally I have nasal cycling and occasional complete nasal blockage because of this. Hence waking up with dry mouth. If you add in mouth tape = suffocation. And this is with a full face mask and maxed humidification.
Thank you for this video, about "dry mouth". We watched your video on cleaning the CPAP equipment, too. Very informative.
I abhorred the idea of taping my mouth and I was doing pretty good (4-5). But, I followed a CZcams and tried taping. Wow, my scores did way better (>2) and my mouth stopped being dry at all.
Mouth tape works perfectly for those who are mouth breathers. Been using tape for two years without issue. Chin straps don't work for people who are mouth breathers. Knightsbridge chin strap works well…
No such thing as mouth breathers. We were born with a nose for a reason. What happens, especially if apnea was diagnosed later in life, is your not getting enough air through the nose so your body takes more air in through the mouth. This can be corrected with mouth tape or a chin strap.
I have been using mouth tape for years , but in the last 2 weeks I have been experiencing severe mouth dryness. I am adjusting my humidity and temps go try to alleviate this. So far with not much success.
@@hmb..you know what I mean!
@@errolgray185your mouth may be opening and passing air. Tape still firmly stuck come morning?
Yes 👍 still stuck solid
i believe i only saw one response here that mentioned using a soft cervical collar for folks who end up with dry mouth in the morning. it's not always a "moth breathing" problem. chin straps may--or may not--be the answer. for me, they weren't.
once i got a good fitting scc, i have almost zero dry mouth problems.
you need to make sure you get a good fit.
I tape my mouth and for just-in-case safety reasons I plug a power monitor in the same electrical outlet my CPAP machine uses. If the power goes out for 5 seconds a horn goes off. You can get an app for your phone for almost nothing that senses if the charging power goes off to your phone and will set off an alarm thru your phone speaker. In case of an internal failure of the CPAP machine I use a SPO2 ring monitor set to vibrate at its strongest level to wake me if my SPO2 saturation level goes below 90%. Finally I dog-ear a corner of the tape to make it easy to rip off instantly if needed (I never have). Use common sense of course, if you're stuffed up with a cold, sinusitis or allergies then no mouth taping, duh. Try putting your mask on and power up your machine while laying down as normal then have someone unplug the machine to see what it feels like, you'll see the world doesn't end. There are anti-asphyxiation features built into the mask. Don't just shut off the machine because the Resmed 10 for example automatically runs a 30 minute low pressure hose drying cycle when you turn it off with the switch so that would not simulate a power failure. I have never heard of anyone dying or injured from mouth taping.
I'm ready to throw the whole situation out on the street because of dry mouth. My mouth feels like leather inside now. I've tried every tip and advice you and everyone else mentioned.
I've concluded my throat closes when I sleep and the air just blows in the closed system, which is my taped mouth.
My mouth can open with the type of tape I use, if necessary.
Do you have any reported instances of people suffocating who use a CPAP machine and tape their mouth shut? Also, any reported instances of people having a medical issue because they breathed in their own Co2 while using a CPAP. I tape my mouth shut and you are the first person I have heard that warns against this practice.
Oral tape works great
Yes, I would like to hear about any reports of actual problems. I spoke to my doctor and he said it was a good idea. Using mouth tape has been more effective than chin straps.
New to CPAP , have dry mouth , was going to try mouth tape . Glad I didn't . Found your presentation to be informative and delivered by a sensible honest guy . Thanks .
So what did you end up doing to get rid of the dry mouth?
CHIN STRAP completely solves dry mouth, for me. Using with a full face mask.
Understand the risks of mouth tape as you lay out. But nothing worked for me until I started using - about four years ago. I only tape the middle third of my mouth, so I can still breath through my mouth if needed. Whether my body would do that when I am asleep is a question. But the is no question as to how much better I feel after a night with mouth tape vs without. I use a nasal pillows mask.
What brand do you use?
Same
Agreed, use tape only on 3/4 of mouth, keep a small area open
I have Sjorgens syndrome which one of symptoms is dry mouth. Even tho I advised Respirologist 3x of this and mentioning to technician I wasn't advised of a heated tube so after researching found out about heated tubing purchased which helped yet still quite dry so I found a X shaped tape which helped. I did not want a straight tape. The X does allow for exhalation which I have done. My mouth is back at least to pre CPAP dry mouth.
The heated tube also reduced my dry eye another sjorgens symptom which had got worse again with CPAP.
@@SAHMMilitaryWife 3M Micropore Paper Tape - White, 1" x 10yds (Box of 12) , ordered on Amazon
What an excellent informative video! Helped me in many ways.
Good comments re mouth tape and yes we've come across a lot of patients who have tried it and wonder why they have a morning headache......co2 retention most likely suspect.
Why is mouth tape worse than a chin strap?
I’m curious, how tight should your chinstrap for cpap be?
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See, I have been using CPAP for 7 years.
Air rushing out of the mouth is noisy, and would wake me up like THAT!
I’ve been suffering dry mouth for years….before and since I got my cPap….then about 6 months ago, someone suggested I put little smear a little toothpaste on the end of my finger and put it onto my tongue just as I was getting into bed.
Works perfectly
Can't use chin strap because of a bite-guard on my upper teeth. While wearing the chin strap, my lower jaw is out of alignment with regard to the bite guard, and so not workable; it moves my jaw too much. Taping I'm still trying. Wan to try a postage-stamp sized piece that won't prevent my mouth from opening, but I'm not sure it will be effective. In any case, I'm still struggling to fall asleep with the nasal pillows in place, no less the tape.
I also have the dry mouth and have to play this again. I am planning to get an appointment and being watched again at the hospital
Thank you very much for this informative video!
Ok, you mention the risk of having a closed cycle in case of a malfunction of the CPAP machine in case of using mouth tape. What about people using a fullface mask? Isn't it the same even with no mouth tape involved? In my nasal pillow mask there's a vent at the mask itself, allowing at least some air in and out in case you'd block your tube for some reason. Isn't that the safety precaution?
Good question!
Yeah there are vents on masks I have tried that prevent this kind of thing, so I am not sure what he wouldn’t mention that.
excellent..ThankYou!
At 4m32s you say that a chin strap will "help you breathe out of your mouth"....surely you mean "nose"?
Thank you so much for the information！
How do I stop grinding teeth with sleep apneas also
Wearing a cervical neck collar - keeps my mouth closed from the bottom up. Another suggestion
I use a chin strap but still have dry mouth if not more.
Great advice
As far as power going out, get a battery backup. Like the one you should have on your desktop computer. If the power goes out it beeps but continues to power the cpap. Beep = wake.
Which face mask do you recommend for mixed back/side sleepers
Thank u so much for this info!!
Thanks!
another serious consideration with mouth tape is Vomiting. maybe u eat something off or have one too many and get sick at night. with your mouth taped shut + pressure there a high risk of it going down into your lungs and your stomach contents will wreak havoc on your lungs. don't get me wrong, mouth taping IS effective, i used KT tape ( kinesiology tape) which sticks pretty well, and allows u to breath thru it but I'm gonna try a FFM because my nasal congestion is just too unbearable and the machine just ends up blowing max pressure up my nose which would wake me up.
How can you learn the values used when connecting the heated tube in auto mode? (So you can adjust if raining or still dry mouth) Thanks
Safety issues aside, taping did not prevent air from leaking into my mouth. I'd still wake up with a mouth full of air and have to force it back into my nasal passages. Even with max pressure lowered to 8, air still leaks into my mouth and it ends up dry dry dry when I'm using a nasal pillow mask, which is otherwise fine. I hate the full face mask because it gets very uncomfortable after about 4 hours, and air starts leaking out around the edges... but it does keep me from having dry mouth. Still looking for a solution.
Thanks
I have always breath through my mouth, and when I was diagnosed of having severe obstructive Sleep Apnea. I have always used a full face mask. I use a philips dreamstation with a AirFit F30i.
I am horrified by the thought of my mouth being taped shut while I sleep - especially after I've already had a heart failure in my sleep, and I've woken up plenty of times while gasping for breath. No, I'm team cpap with full face mask all the way! There's literally nothing better than the feeling of air being pushed into my lungs whether it be through my nose or mouth. I wake up feeling like I can take over the world. It feels like I'm high on oxygen!
4:50 the price says CAD 79 but on the website, it says CAD 114!
I wear a full mask looking for earbuds for tiny ears. Is there certain type to use with the full mask
Can these machines be designed with built in battery back-up?
First you told to fast. Second the pictures show up and off right away we don't have enough time to look at it. Please slow down.
* Presenter (Tristan): - Yes, I agree that it would be useful to let Graphics remain ON-SCREEN longer to let Viewers Read and Process your Point.
* Commenter/Viewers (Dieudo): - what I had to do (and you can to) is to LEFT-TAP on the Screen to Back-up, and then PAUSE the Video to Read/Review.
😊 Click the GEAR icon in the upper right corner (that’s where it is on my screen), and then you can select playback speed. If you then choose .75X, your video and audio speed will be slower.
@@kathyschubert9995Thank you!
I have an airfit n20 and I use a chinstrap, I notice when I use the chinstrap on my myAir app the leaks can go almost pass 24 L. Where when I use mouth tape the leak is less than that do you know why that is? When I use other masks the leak on the app aren’t as high it’s only the N20 mask.
My problem is not dry mouth, it's mouth leaking. I don't want to go to a full mask because I want the benefits of nose breathing. Going to try tape with a dime-sized slot cut into it.
When I use a chin strap my mouth does not relax open. That’s what I use. BUT I came here cause the strap is now causing dental issues etc. if the strap keeps my mouth closed… then how would tape be more dangerous than a strap?
I can't find your CPAP Mask Sizing Guides on the site. Could you send me a link to that info?
Hi there, under the green "in stock" indicator, you will see "Sizing Guide" below. (product page example below)
thecpapstore.ca/collections/masks/products/evora-full-face-cpap-mask
We will work on making this button easier to find. Thank you for your comment, have a great day!
Hello I have a ResMed machine , my mask is under my nose and covers my mouth , my machine is telling me in the morning that I don’t have a leak, but my mouth is so dry , I’m beginning to feel unwell, and mucus in the morning , my machine is set to 27 4 pressure can you help me please
I have to play this as I have rhinoplasty- after using the cpap the next day nose runs all day and possibly the 1st but by the 2nd day - I have the runny nose and sneezing
I was thinking about taping my mouth. Those mouth tapes come out very easily without any struggle. I don't see how anybody above 2 years old may get suffocated because cannot remove a light tape from his mouth, specially when the need to breathe, is one of the strongest survival instincts in human beings.
What about bi-pap users? Also...how do I access my online numbers?
wow amazing chanel bro. new subscriber here
You serious?! You don't use duct tape… I've had the power go off a few times and had no issues. The jaw is a lots stronger than a piece of tape…
Also I don’t feel a great after sleeping. Actually I feel I sleep worse as I am always playing w this damn thing all night so I don’t sleep
Takes time to get used to it. Stay with it.
Xylimelts are tabs with xylitol, which stimulates saliva. Since I started using these, my dry mouth has been significantly reduced.
where can you purchase these or are they prescription? thx!
Excellent product.
@@gayleneflower398 You can find them over the counter at Walmart in the toothpaste aisle.
@@gayleneflower398 I buy them on amazon .I use them everyday .My dry mouth is so bad I have lost 6 teeth in the past 2 years and the dentist said i will lose more .The dentist said cavities which take over 4 years to develop normally took 6 months for me because of dry mouth and little saliva . It is weird ... I have been using cpap for 12 years but the dental issue started 2 years ago
@@gayleneflower398 I order them from Walmart or Amazon
We have been wearing a face mask for covid, breathing back in the same air. You will be alright for a few hours without a cpap machine if power goes out. Tape works fine for dry mouth for ME. Maybe not for others.
Overall, great information. Thank you
I have a mask that covers my nose and mouth. Is that not recommended???
You have a full face mask, which is perfectly fine! We just don't recommend using mouth tape unless you discuss it with your doctor.
CPAP store requirements
Y’all are hella wrong about mouth tape. The mouth leaks wake people up. Full face masks aren’t good for you.
Whoa.. I didn’t know that. I use a full mask currently.
Thanks for your video. As mouth taping has been discussed in the video, and remains controversial, you might consider adding some medical references to this video
CPAP? No thank you...
What do you use instead
Thanks