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hi, i'm the rider at the 5:55 mark. first, i'm a girl. trying to thread that needle was dumb. the video doesn't do it justice, but what i perceived was the car on the right coming to a stop, so i made no effort to swerve back to the left. unfortunately, that wasn't what happened. i did a flip! i remember thinking while i was airborne "shoulda gotten a jacket with armor". you are absolutely right about the injuries. i was conceal carrying iwb appendix at the time. the tank crumpled fine, the firearm not so much, lots of soft tissue damage to the groin. going to the ER that was luckily just down the road, the doctor said they shoul've taken me to a trauma center instead. they hit me with painkillers, gave me an x-ray for my elbow, then gave me a full-body CT scan. that ece 22.06 helmet definitely saved my life. i went home same day, but couldn't walk right for a week and the bike was totaled. as a new and even experienced rider, you're going to have those moments where you think "i can make it", and you need to stop and check that behavior, otherwise, this is about the best-case scenario you can hope for. ride safe.
I'm glad that your injury was not too severe. Most importantly, you didn't let this accident stop you from riding. Take good care, keep learning and have fun.
Damn.
Always good to see these reports. Shame about the little Honda but good to know you're up and around, ride safe
Stoked to hear you are okay!! Have had some "I can make it" moments in my past to be sure. These days, my attitude is, "I'll make it, where I'm going, no need to push it". That's not to say that we shouldn't have fun or push some limits on two wheels... but there are times and places for it. I am happy to hear you are well and recovered/recovering!
@@michaelcoxsilentr8183 Buying a slower bike is what REALLY taught me. I used to think "I can make it" all the time on my FZ-6. Now I'm on a 390 Duke, and while it's loads more fun, it's sometimes unnerving how slow it is. All those situations where I used to think, "I can make it," I now think about how I most certainly cannot make it. Probably saved my butt at least a couple of times.
Do I still plan to get a KTM SDR Evo? Yes, but now I know how to properly handle situations that I would not have learned without riding various bikes with different amounts of power.
16:20 -- I live in a building that oversees that bridge. Unfortunately the kid passed away.
21 years old, no license, and was previously seen doing dangerous maneuvers in a road close by.
It's a shame, such a waste of life. Who knows what the kid was running away from. No matter how stupid this was, it doesn't make it any less sad.
Don't ride angry, don't try to impress or act cool in traffic and public roads. Learn patience, it will save you.
His motor oil stains are still there on the road.
16:44 Unfortunately, biker died on impact. I read it on news and I live in that city. We have a saying, regarding those, who always rush, close translation would be: Slower you drive, further you will go.
I can only hope he didn't feel pain, because I know sometimes people use "dying on impact" to mean quick death instead of instant death so they don't distress others listening
Can you do such crash/stoppie with ABS?
@@monsterboomer8051 no, thats what abs is made for
You can clearly see the biker's head moving while the other guy is on the phone though.
@@tsurutom Unfortunately that was either his body going limp or convulsing. I had a friend work ambulance that day. There's no speculation - sad to say, but he passed away. Yet another reason to remember that crashes don't need to be spectacular or at crazy speeds for someone to loose their lives.
For you newer riders;
99.999% of these bad situations can be attributed to TWO factors. Going too damned fast for the road conditions, and not being seen!
If you want to run fast, take it to the TRACK.
If you have a black helmet, black gear, black bike, then you are effectively INVISIBLE TO ALL TRAFFIC, so don’t get pissed off when no one can see you.
Slowing down, and making yourself more visible (you’re not Johnny Cash!), eliminates most of these scenarios.
One thing I don't understand is how much bike gear is black, it's like we have any colour you like as long as it's black. My gear isn't black but it took some finding.
you cant actually go as fast on the track as you can on the road though, tracks are centered around choosing the best lines and using proper cornering techniques. few tracks have straights long enough that you can even get to the top speed of a 600, not to mention stay there or close to that speed
If you dislike riders in black, send a message to manufacturers that produce stuff only in black.
My first set of gear, and helmet, were both black with hi vis green highlights. I have a safety vest I carry. Just upgraded my helmet to a white one.
Thanks for this comment. Safety gear is not safety gear unless it is highly visible. I see so many all black bicyclist and motorcyclist and just shake my head. I too used to wear all black in my 20's but after many near misses am older and wiser and less self conscious these days and proudly wear the visible safety vest.
At the 16 min mark for video, biker is not okay, he died on spot, medics said, that he probably broke his neck. Rider was 23 y.o. and also didn't posses motorcycle license. Original video author needs to do better fact check.
They just blur the crash and say everyone is fine to keep the ad revenue.
He was speeding way over 70-km/h (official conclusion is that at the time of impact it was 70-80km/h and it is after he tried to break, before that way more) and even did not have a drivers license. Also that place is well known for traffic jams (every business day) at the time he crashed. His crash was the end of two day joyride disregarding every law, speed limit and even common sense. Guys like him give bad rep to all other riders out there.
By the way he is not ok. He died by broken neck/spine the moment he smashed rear window with helmet
@@XachAttach I'm OK with that. This is all entertainment value, watching live screwups from ignorant, no common sense citizens that really have no right to be loose out on the public roadways in my opinion!
@@johnswanson3741 You're a psychopath if you think a man dying is entertainment.
@@nahina801isle of man is not the same?
I need to watch more of your videos. I watched you for years, haven't seen you for a few months, then I have my first crash. I learned my lesson. Watch Dan so when I ride, I always hear his voice in my head.
do tell what happened
@@organicgrow4440 Going through an intersection, I lost the front tire on some gravel and ate the pavement for 42 feet. The bike (2022 Harley XL1200X) is likely a total loss and I have stage 2 and 3 road rash on all my appendages, along with a sprained ankle where the bike landed on me. Replaying it through in my head over and over, and the fact my bike was in neutral, I believe I hit neutral when downshifting to first which unloaded my front end, reducing grip. No abs on the bike, either. I should have been paying more attention to the road surface.
@@ChristopherBrusa oh shoot! sorry for you bro, Thanks for sharing, this is a good reminder for us all.
I’m also on a cruiser, I ride in full rain all seasons, may God protect us, Take care hope you have a full recovery.
The Bluetooth disconnected is kind of a joke now when something is not properly connected such as his left grip.
Still trying to figure out how the guy outside of the gym crashed. Looked like he literally just decided to lay down for no reason 😂
Maybe cold tyres and locked up front wheel? Dunno though, I doesn't really make sense does it?
@@mikehannan8206 yeah cold tyres + new bike with new tyres they are slippery
Goodday DanDan, the clip from 16:10m the biker that crashed into the car on the bridge is dead. He didn`t have a motorcycle license. I was in the Latvian news (my wife is from Latvia), this happened in Riga.
Greetings, Steve (From the Netherlands, in 2 months we will take our bikes to Latvia to visit my wife`s family).
10:50 when you’re talking about rev matching when the guy loses the clutch, i believe you mean clutchless shifting, need to rev match but a little more involved with timing and when the trans in under load
I’ve done a bit of crash upshifting, generally from 3rd, just a little pressure under the shifter, and just for a moment drop the throttle, the shifter clicks up, and roll on again. Down shifting is similar, just pressure on the shifter, and unload the throttle, it should pop down. I don’t know how quick shifters or slipper clutches might change this though. Anyone experience this on a newer bike?
I've got an old honda shadow (86) And Idk if I just mess up the timing or am not pulling hard enough but can't ever seem to get a clutchless shift to work.
13:15 "Open Register pattern" is what we should call 'open line' from now and on 😂
That was a great example 🎉
DANDAN The fireman.. ❌
DANDAN The Lives saver.. ✅
😊👍🏻
The poor doggos gave me more anxiety than any of the other incidents in this. Was hilarious though watching the doggo say no lane filtering for you. :)
1:46 you are absolutely right, i crashed, broke my fibula but by wearing full gear it was really a not so bad fracture, took like a month to start walking again and after 2 months i was good to go
I have a question: Why did you stop after the van in front of you had moved, although it was a pedestrian crossing but there was no one crossing in front of you? thanks
@@amjadniazi8588 idk bro its not me in the video you should ask him
Whenever I see "biker is ok" or "no one was hurt," it makes me think people were definitely hurt.
Yes, “biker is ok” is strange meaning of death. This biker died in this crash.
On the Fortnine video: I got knocked off my bike at 30mph, landed on my shoulder, slammed my knee and knocked myself out momentarily (someone hit the kill switch but I thought I just stood up straight away) while in full armour. The only bruise was below the kneepad where I guess the bottom of the pad stabbed in. I rode the bike 2,400 miles in four days after that hit. I did not even know I had landed on my shoulder until I looked at the jacket three days later. Keep the armour in guys. Bones and muscle can mend, joints- not so much.
Hey man just wanna thank you for making these videos! I just passed my msf course. I have been trying to prepare to be as safe as possible. Thank you for showing me common situations and how to avoid them.
9:39 what kind of interaction is that? Do they know each other? 😂😂
13:58 he crashed because he has no idea how to ride a motorcycle.
i used to live in tucson. on the air force base. i miss arozona.
24:01 is how I totaled my bike last September - no major injuries. Upgraded from a Z650RS to a Z900RS
I think what happened in the first video is that the biker stopped for the cross walk but the guy behind him expected the biker to keep going so he checked the other way to see if it was clear and then hit the bike in front of him.
This happens at yield spots a lot because people are more worried about checking to see if they can go than watching the car in front of them. Always focus on where you’re going.
Thanks Teach. Good class. 👍👊🏻
Dan confused about what to do when you lose your clutch was great. My boy - kill switch and break.
Brake...not break.
@@magna116 Fair correction considering the difference. lol
@@roguetune03I mean, it certainly did break!
20:01 now I for sure will be getting a phone mount
11:58 rookie mistake of using the front brake.
16:30 biker is not okay. Biker sadly is ded i know this because it happens in my country and this is th first casualty of the season.
Totally agreed on the armor bit.
Breaking a bone is breaking a bone, but that extra energy (beyond what it takes to break the bone) has to go somewhere. It always helps to remove at least some energy from that impact.
Fortnine is absolutely correct, and their goal with their video was the same as their helmet rating video: not to convince people to stop wearing armor, but rather to shed light on the fact the armor ratings are very outdated and don't reflect 20+ years of accident data.
Also I think people put too much confidence in amour. It's good to bring attention to it.
9:24 I usually filter to the front right where your arrow is (UK)
...in relation to the first incident (the back ender), why did the guy on the bike stop? it's a zebra crossing and there was no one waiting to cross as far as I can see.
He has L plates I’m guessing he was in wrong gear or stalled
that phone drop song at 20:35 was that empire of the sun band? They are the best!
At 4:56 the foot peg broke! It is an old bike. It happend here in Brazil.
Intersections in the USA are absolutely bonkers. Here in The Netherlands all intersections are designed in a way that no other vehicles are potentially going to cross your lane. So either they have a red light or a separate lane for turning on the intersection.
In the USA it seems like free-for-all :')
I have a question for the US drivers. What are the rules on passing on the right side of somebody? In the Netherlands and most of europe it is onluy allowed to pass someone on the left
5:01 this was in Brazil. It was a 2008 R6 and the bike's footpeg broke.
When buddies clutch lever came off, and you said to rev match... Don't you still need the clutch to rev match? With no clutch, you could put pressure on the shift lever, let off the throttle, and it'll pop down... But no clutch and your rev's will shoot up and you might lock the rear wheel, no? I think I would just gently slow down, until it stalled out. Not sure if that's the best, fairly new rider myself..
Well I assume he wanted to stop which means he should blip and downshift. You can do it without the clutch lever if you practice.
@@Gideon_Judges6 I thought you could only do it upshifting. Good to know! Especially since I'm riding a 24 year old Katana.. I might lose a clutch cable or something one of these days.. Cheers, bro!
Then the bike wish his bike had Quick-shifter
one of the videos, i was watching it (obviously since i am watching you) but it was literally from my home town and the drivers on that road are all bellends.
16:29 - I am from the city. Rider died, He had no licence, and went about 90kmph before he started to break, one second before the crash. He was 23
I'm the female rider at the end with the white van, thanks for the good review Dan
Yammie noob has a video on up and down shifting without using the clutch lever it can be done
It's nothing new and very easy
It's just hard on the transmission
@10:00 of course you can downshift. Blip the throttle. Probably can't get all the way to 1 but should be able to get to 3, maybe 2. Then when you're down to like 20 MPH, hit the engine kill switch and coast down.
On the Fortnine video about not using full armour, he used a few sources to bolster his claims and those sources responded and said that he's not interpreted their data correctly and disagreed with his conclusions.
When it comes to Fortnine because he sounds convincing and says what he says with confidence, people mistake that for authority that he very often doesn't have.
He's not all bad but people need to be better at critical thinking, especially when they're watching videos on CZcams.
Some say the guy at 9:59 is still riding today
45mph in a parking lot, genius!
The guy in the white SUV didn't turn his head till after he started to get over. This is very common and something to really watch for when riding. If they don't see you they will hit you.
4:10 had nothing to do with the blind spot. It was an inattentive driver ignoring their flashing warning indicator.
15:15 that's also an undertake at speed
At 16:36 the biker actually passed away from injuries very soon after the crash. It was suspected he was speeding at around 60-70km/h.
Glad on my rides horse crap has been the biggest obstacles and hazards.
Blutooth means disconnected? Cause it's 2024 and they still suck sometimes.....
The video at 15 minutes is in the UK. It wasn't a near miss but what the driver did was definitely illegal. In most circumstances, undertaking qualifies as driving without due care and attention and if witnessed by a traffic officer will lead to a prosecution. But you have to expect and deal with people breaking the law every time you go for a ride. Good use of mirrors helps.
Responding to a driver doing something illegal by riding illegally is pretty stupid though.
@10:06 on a road bike why can't you do clutch less down changes?
I know on my dirt bike if you match the revs right you can change both up and down without the clutch. Even if its not the best for it, couldn't one do it on a road bike in emergencies? (like the lever falling off)
Can some one educate me? Just curious : )
(edit, watched a bit more. Dan does kind of explain it, but still makes it sound like its very hard to do, so I still need some education : )
I just started riding again after 20 years. I forgot how severe the attraction is that animals have to motorcycles. 2nd day out and had a lab/shepard mix come out into the middle of the road and try to attack my front tire. Couple days later I was riding out in Amish country at dusk and all within 2 miles I had a deer in the other lane that came out of the woods just staring at me, then a racoon, then a fox and countless squirrels. Squirrels are VERY fascinated with motorcycles. They come out to the middle of the road, stare at u until you're about 10 ft away then run off. Squirrels and dogs man.
Why wouldn't you just hit the kill switch in case of emergency? Why rev match?
10:00 what are you saying Dan? Of course you can downshift without using the clutch and without needing to revmatch. Roll off the throttle completely and kick down through the gears.
Bro at the 3:45 mark almost pushed his buddy into the back of a car at minimum 75 miles an hour. The ptsd he woulda had is insane.
@16:26 biker is not okey, was young guy without a drivers license sadly passed away on the spot
❤ your videos
Are you from tucson!? Love the Mt. Lemmon callout
2:01 so its like IIA body armor. It will stop a 44mag but you will still feel it
I follow traffic on my escooter and when i stop at a red light, im always near the line in the cars mirror view.
I dont stay behind, ppl cant drive and dont want to get squished.
Still can't get over how much Dan looks like a young, in-shape Tom Segura 🤣
Almost (almost) all of the crashes are the result of going too fast for road conditions (traffic, weather, debris). I have ridden full time in L.A., Dallas; oklahoma. Excess speed kills.
For the first time I made it first, safe travels everyone!
13:45 new tires i'd reckon
It's kind of funny. I've gotten in an accident and my phone was still mounted to my quad lock but not too long ago I hit a pothole and the phone went flying off. Luckily I was going downhill so it slid right back to me.
thankyou
7:03 he should not have tried that gap. The gap was closing quickly from both directions. His only hope was to keep swerving right and go behind that car.
I bought ebikes only to realize that I would have to ride on the side walk which is really dangerous depending on the side walk. Just bought some scooters instead.
"We can't downshift" is a great way to say that you can't do anything... Let's encourage better and more comprehensive training and practice as opposed to handing out "bike cards" to anyone who passes a course and let them rip it at 100+mph. The biggest thing regarding competency in motorcycle riding is time and experience. Many riders who have the common issues here are new or only have experience on their new sport bikes. It's awesome to have the freedom and power... but from a 90-100mph high-sider.... take this advise... practice the drills regularly, learn your bike, take it easy, and stop trying to be the fastest, coolest idiot on the block.
I love DanDanTheFireman, and my ONLY criticism is that the statements that are intended to be snarky or sarcastic, are easily interpreted as encouragement for the younger or less experienced riders.
Perhaps run the script past a few folks who have had traumatic incidents, or those who have ridden from youth to older age and various environments.
That all said, you are doing good work and your offerings are excellent and very, very worthwhile.
Love what you do, keep it up!
3:56 That guy didn't mention anything about Speeding not mixing 0_o
10:00 Why cant we downshift? In my bike i can
I personally like to keep my phone in my jacket pocket incase something happens.. if me and the bike get seperated, I still have my phone to call for help...
"wonders why he crashed"
----Full throttle in car park---
You can indeed downshift without a clutch very easily! I'm a beginner and I can downshift with no clutch by rev matching!
6:03 this biker had no brake or he never slow down even if he saw vehicle crossing miles away 😂
12:10 bro tried to break with his handle bars at that angle using the front on a wet dirty road. Should have squared the bike than braked or feathered the rear brake first.
I am not a fan of phone mounts as it encourages phone use. I rather pair my PackTalk with my phone and only use it to make calls when I absolutely have to. Phone stays in my jacket.
@DanDanTheFireman
Regarding the video starting at 16:05
He was speeding about double the speed limit in city (50kmph) (official conclusion is that at the time of impact it was 70-80km/h and it is after he tried to break, before that way more) and did not have a drivers license and therefore basic knowledge and skill. Also that place is well known for traffic jams (every business day) at the time he crashed.
His crash was the end of two day "joyride" disregarding every law, speed limit and even common sense. Guys like him give bad rep to all other riders out there.
By the way he is not ok. He died by broken neck/spine the moment he smashed rear window with helmet
One word. Hooligans.
DanDan if I did not love you so much I'd be clicking off like I do for every youtuber who asks for subs right at the start of a video! You are above that, man!
Yep, I watch Matt's off road recovery and I haven't seen any video where anyone says to like and subscribe, it's refreshing for sure.
No sale this weekend? Why am I even watching...
You can downshift without a clutch. I upshift and downshift without my clutch on my gsxr for 60,000 miles. No quickshifter. You can do the same thing a quickshifter does by blipping the throttle. Cuz that's all a quickshifter does. It just cuts the ignition instead of throttle. But either way it's still shifting the same. Sport bike transmission is designed to be shifted without the clutch.
Is this more just a sport bike thing?
I can't ever seem to get a clutchless shift to work on an 86 shadow.
@@matthewbeaver5026 not sure. All I know is sport bikes. But the best way to learn the technique and try on different bikes is to............pull up on the shifter as your accelerating with the throttle on. Don't pull hard to break anything just pull up nice and firm.. then.......when you are ready to shift just snap the throttle closed and back open again. The faster and smoother you snap the throttle closed then open the faster n smoother your shift will be. With practice it sounds and feels just like a quick shifter.
@@matthewbeaver5026 it's gonna not gonna wanna shift as you are accelerating with pressure up on the shifter. That's what you want. It's the sudden close and open of the throttle that unloads the transmission enough for the gear to slip in. As long as your holding pressure up on the shifter. All you gotta do is snap the throttle closed and open when you wanna shift.
And also again. Not sure about your bike. But as long as it is a Dog Mesh trans which I'm pretty sure all jap bikes are. Your good.
15:19 IMO once line lanes end that lane has become one. The driver of the four wheeled vehicle just cut the rider off trying to cut ahead by 10-15 feet. Yes it's "not a big deal" compared to other clips in this video and many others like it but like I said, IMO, the drivers actions were unnecessary and could cause a potential risk to the rider
Understood, the riders reaction to the situation just caused for a more potential dangerous problem, but still... don't overtake after lane lines end
it's not an open lane if someone is there.
I recently bought my first bike, its a 125cc Jiangsu. Any tips you can give me ?
wear gear. Practice low speed stuff in a parking lot.
Usually almost no one has common sense when they are driving, you need to learn to understand that when you drive or ride. On the road everything literally can happen, when i say everything is everything. You will see people crossing the road inmerse on their phones, drivers who forget how to use the mirrors, bicycle users who believe they own the road, etc, so be really careful. Use bright colors, always, keep your bike lights on and understand you are the chasis and keep the bike in perfect conditions.
Watch a heap of DanDan and learn from others mistakes instead of your own!
First guy should've never stopped in a corner/turn to fidget w/ his device. Pull off behind the posts to the left.
Not a single cruiser was damaged during the making of this video.
i didnt smash my skull, i fractured my sinus. no broken bones when a lady stopped in front of me. wear gear.
2.49 The cursor! The cursor! You need to go to the red state!
1:02 Bennetts Bikesocial did a full rebuttal on Fortnine's video about amror being "useless", including getting into contact with people who did research on motorcycle injuries and said Fortnine misrepresented their data, so they are in fact not right. Plus as you've already starting to notice Fortnine oversimplified how motorcycle injuries occur because he took only one aspect - which is at at what force does human bones breaks - and painted that as the be all and end all criteria, when complicated things like if the bone breaks clean or is shattered into dozens of piece and can't be put back etc is actually very relevant too.
tl;dr Fortnine's video is poorly researched and argued and nobody should take them seriously again - at least not until they get their shit back together and don't use psesudoscience to mislead people.
12:10 gravel and front brake do not mix
Normal streets aren't for racing and speeding, take it to the tracks.
0:22 😂
no clutch no problem .. you still have a throttle, a stop switch, ( engine cut-out, ) .. and brakes .. who needs a clutch ..
So youre saying not to wear gear. That saves me a lot of money
fortnines video was released on april 1st - it was a joke. The deadpan delivery though got a lot of people to do a response and raise awareness of how you can use facts to make stupid arguments.
25:20 they are called “sidewalks” not “sidebikes” you are not supposed to ride bicycles on sidewalks which is why bike lanes exist. The bicyclists is riding where they are supposed to be riding, so It’s silly to tell someone to do something you’re not supposed to do just because a giant pickup truck wants the whole road 👎🏻
I mean DanDan's channel has always been safety first rules later since it's his perspective as a fireman, if he was a cop then maybe he'd be a stickler for rules regardless of safety like you
@@israelsalgado2499 sure, what about the safety of the pedestrians who are meant to be on the sidewalk?
@@TransaurusWrecks shut up. A bicycle is not the same as a car and will rarely impact a pedestrian and such an impact will not kill them.
How many pedestrians are killed by bikes vs cars?
How many bikers are killed by cars?
How many motorcyclists are killed by cars?
Cars are a massive danger. Especially douche truckers who think they own the road.
Hey how about that android game of motorbike agasint trafics gahhahaja
Who rides like this?