The major F1 engine upgrade Honda kept secret

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  • čas přidán 1. 10. 2021
  • Honda has been using an upgraded battery since the Formula 1 summer break that has yielded better engine and car performance. Although the new part helped Max Verstappen claim wins at Spa and Zandvoort, it wasn't until the build-up to the Russian Grand Prix that Honda revealed details of the update. In this video Scott Mitchell explains why Honda's changes are so significant, how long they have been in the works for, and why there was nothing underhand or illegal about Honda's secrecy.
    Thanks to @Crashalong for the Italian GP collision animation at 00:25 - make sure you check out his channel for the full analysis and more videos like this!
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  • @josephnus
    @josephnus Před 2 lety +1842

    I don't really care if Honda-powered Red Bull win the championship this season or not. But this Chapter of Honda F1 programme has been one of the most amazing story in the sport. From being a laughingstock to compete directly with the King of V6 Turbo Hybrid. While also starting the development later than other manufacturers.
    I think Honda can leave this sport with their heads up knowing that they have done such an incredible job, and putting Renault (and Ferrari) to shame.

    • @ericlambart536
      @ericlambart536 Před 2 lety +217

      Merc was previously Braun GP which was previously Honda, which makes it even more poetic if they do beat Merc

    • @stevel9627
      @stevel9627 Před 2 lety +36

      Definitely agree. The fact that no other manufacturers joined aside from Honda is proof how much of a risk it is as having any amount of lead time in development is a huge advantage in comparison to a new manufacturer as was shown when Honda was way behind at the time. Imagine if it was Renault who was the new kid on the block back then, they would of quit the sport within a few years.

    • @djoetma
      @djoetma Před 2 lety +93

      The annoying thing is this story is that everyone seems to forget McLaren had a HUGE part in this as well. From not willing to adjust the chassis for the engine, not willing to budge on size-zero at first to manipulating the numbers by driving with extra downforce in free practice and thus blocking Honda in their development process.

    • @fireinthenight9028
      @fireinthenight9028 Před 2 lety +18

      @@ericlambart536 I think it's personal for them to defeat their old team.

    • @mazal-samadi4093
      @mazal-samadi4093 Před 2 lety +6

      Agree. This has been an amazing story.

  • @pichael2405
    @pichael2405 Před 2 lety +1022

    Great visuals, shoutout to the designer of the engine components and all the graphics.

    • @sebastianbuse4899
      @sebastianbuse4899 Před 2 lety +10

      wonder when the race will be so detailed about mercedes...

    • @femiceo328
      @femiceo328 Před 2 lety

      @@sebastianbuse4899 Any Merc improvement is considered bad for the spot

    • @topiasr628
      @topiasr628 Před 2 lety +3

      Was going to comment the same. Excellent, excellent job to the producers!

    • @giandecastro9770
      @giandecastro9770 Před 2 lety

      Right

    • @vsijben
      @vsijben Před 2 lety +1

      @@sebastianbuse4899 This detailed schematic and explanation is generic for all F1 cars. Only the fact that the new Honda storage module has higher capacity, introduced a few races ago, is specific to Honda.

  • @josedacunhafilho
    @josedacunhafilho Před 2 lety +650

    It is a shame Honda worked so hard to get back to a competitive position in F1, only to quit the sport at the end of this year.

    • @DAGATHire
      @DAGATHire Před 2 lety +69

      its a shame, but not surprising. they've done this many times. the exact same cycle. frankly 10 years or so down the road if they announce they are coming back, rather than fan fare they should be told to piss off and stop wasting people's time

    • @The_808
      @The_808 Před 2 lety +81

      They know no matter how hard they will work they won't be the preferred team by the FIA, Mercedes and other teams will always be lobbying against them because they're not ''a European'' cool car manufacturer.

    • @braveheart4603
      @braveheart4603 Před 2 lety +28

      they pulled out last time only for brawn to then go on and win the title with their platform then merc come in and purchase brawn.

    • @Chris-xl6pd
      @Chris-xl6pd Před 2 lety +6

      @@The_808 Or that most of their prestige comes from MotoGp.

    • @_Habit_
      @_Habit_ Před 2 lety +3

      Because Red Bull sucks, as a company. Honda will be back sometime in the future I guarantee.

  • @TejasNaik01
    @TejasNaik01 Před 2 lety +373

    Honda- We work quietly and bring upgrades to our engines.
    Ferrari- Let's have a grande media announcement about the engine upgrades we would bring.
    Appreciate the presentation of the internals of the engine. Made it more easier to understand.

    • @arnoldmbuthia2687
      @arnoldmbuthia2687 Před 2 lety +19

      ** Mercedes
      We can't keep up
      ...
      But Mercedes went ahead to produce the most potent and efficient power unit f1 has ever seen.

    • @klyplays
      @klyplays Před 2 lety +1

      because its illegal lmfao.

    • @HowsYourFaceFeel
      @HowsYourFaceFeel Před 2 lety +4

      Ferrari has engine problems every practice.

    • @dylanburston7453
      @dylanburston7453 Před 2 lety +8

      @@klyplays But it aint tho

    • @pflaffik
      @pflaffik Před 2 lety +2

      Ferrari has their way of presenting things, you dont have to like it but no need to make up things.

  • @gpaje
    @gpaje Před 2 lety +88

    The Honda name will likely still be in F1 for 2022. They will continue to build motors for Red Bull in Sakura Japan for 2022 while Red Bull Powertrains gets up to speed. They are just finalizing the marketing aspect of it. The car will likely say "Powered by Honda" or something like that instead of just Honda.

    • @bertram-raven
      @bertram-raven Před 2 lety +11

      Also, almost everyone from the Honda F1 engine development team is moving to Red Bull Powertrains. It is a shame the announcements from Honda in Japan are not reported in the English speaking world.

    • @flasher1663
      @flasher1663 Před 2 lety +2

      Brand it Mugen

    • @BoleDaPole
      @BoleDaPole Před 2 lety

      Keep dreaming bud

  • @ClassicRed2159
    @ClassicRed2159 Před 2 lety +47

    RB got a killer deal with their Honda power relationship considering they kept Aston Martin logo on the car last year

  • @bucktide35
    @bucktide35 Před 2 lety +185

    Fantastic technical analyst of a component I hadn't cared about since the dawn of the era. Easy to follow, stellar visuals, and just overall a dang good presentation. Hats off guys.

    • @sports2hedz542
      @sports2hedz542 Před 2 lety

      Agreed! Made me think...What if F1 made their rules more conducive to electrification...required more of the power to come from the battery while still pushing ICE technology? Walking that tightrope...F1 can do better. It would drive both areas and keep OEMs like Honda in the game, and encourage others like VW to enter. It's a hard sell to invest in an F1 program when the world is moving electric.

    • @michaelsullivan3581
      @michaelsullivan3581 Před 2 lety

      @@sports2hedz542 That is exactly what the are doing!

    • @sports2hedz542
      @sports2hedz542 Před 2 lety

      @Michael Sullivan but they're taking baby steps. they need to make leaps. otherwise they will never get other oems (who themselves have committed to leaps) to join

  • @bunky8077
    @bunky8077 Před 2 lety +93

    Would love to see a Honda logo remain somewhere on the car in the future, just as a homage, especially if Max goes on to win the championship

    • @Whateva67
      @Whateva67 Před 2 lety +3

      Me too,I love Honda ☺️

    • @junsengjs
      @junsengjs Před 2 lety +5

      I'd take a simple stylized H on the RB livery.

    • @TheJokerit19
      @TheJokerit19 Před 2 lety +3

      I assume Red Bull Powertrains logo on the PU cover, rear wing, and elsewhere that presently holds the logo or Honda text, but we'll find out.

    • @jaysekhon8014
      @jaysekhon8014 Před 2 lety +2

      Honda doesn't want their logo to be on a F1 car

    • @BoleDaPole
      @BoleDaPole Před 2 lety +1

      Honda don't want to be associated with gas guzzling

  • @fabioverissimosantos
    @fabioverissimosantos Před 2 lety +33

    So… Verstappen’s next road legal car will be an hybrid Honda jazz type R?
    I’m all for it!

    • @madmage2676
      @madmage2676 Před 2 lety

      As long as somebody doesn't crash it during social media filming. I'm looking at you Romain Grosjean!

  • @rossrreyes
    @rossrreyes Před 2 lety +27

    Its the only year Honda has had this large of a livery presence on an F1 car ever and they are throwing that ultimate marketing visual away by leaving just when they are about to win the championship

    • @8thlvlMage
      @8thlvlMage Před 2 lety +8

      Yeah it's a shame. They're such a small company. They could really use the publicity!

    • @notaname8140
      @notaname8140 Před 2 lety +5

      The thing is though, a large part of why they're doing so well is because they decided to really go all out this year since it's their last in the sport so they want to go out with a bang, which is probably also the reason they've got a larger livery presence this year. I'd imagine they're pouring a lot more money into this year's engine than they normally would be able to sustain

    • @OrdinaryLatvian
      @OrdinaryLatvian Před 2 lety

      They'll be back. Honda has constantly been in and out of the sport since the 1960s.

  • @henriwolbrink
    @henriwolbrink Před 2 lety +11

    Hats up for Honda's loyalty and determination.

  • @yuh-fv7ds
    @yuh-fv7ds Před 2 lety +8

    They've done so much more than their competitors with so much less time. Truly incredible. Hope they come back to the sport some day.

  • @hanswurst6712
    @hanswurst6712 Před 2 lety +318

    Its so weird. This is the year where Honda announced they leave. And it seems also that this is the year they finally take F1 seriously and put hard work into it.
    I just dont understand them. :O

    • @ryanchantianming8557
      @ryanchantianming8557 Před 2 lety +73

      No, this is Honda’s last year so it’s been saving all it’s developed technology for this year to give RB the best chance it has try for both championships

    • @LordOfTheBored
      @LordOfTheBored Před 2 lety +36

      They saved it all for this season. Because Mercs look beatable compared to last seasons.

    • @UnknOwnParad0x
      @UnknOwnParad0x Před 2 lety +9

      @@LordOfTheBored yeah that 2020 Merc was unbelievable fast

    • @Astfgl
      @Astfgl Před 2 lety +37

      Honda has been working very hard all these years, but it’s taken them a lot of time to get the right organizational structures in place, and they started off on the back foot with a rushed product based on a flawed concept. This year is where all the hard work has finally come together into a complete package that’s up there with the best. Honda’s decision to leave F1 sadly doesn’t have anything to do with their performance on track; it’s a corporate decision pure and simple.

    • @ferdinandhendriks3507
      @ferdinandhendriks3507 Před 2 lety +5

      Honda need the engineers for development of future roadcar technology, like battery EV, fuelcells and alternative and synthetic fuels.

  • @Strand0410
    @Strand0410 Před 2 lety +174

    Shame that Honda's walking away just as their F1 project is bearing fruit.

    • @wp12mv
      @wp12mv Před 2 lety +17

      That's how they'll be legends forever

    • @wp12mv
      @wp12mv Před 2 lety +31

      Plus, they decided to bring their A game after the decision to leave. You can really only respect that mentality. "One last hurrah"

    • @djoetma
      @djoetma Před 2 lety +2

      Actually makes a lot of sense looking at the fact that they've had to wait for so long to finally get some brand display (which they probably paid extra for), even though the credits are next to zero from the main stream audience and media.

    • @mactwentytwentyfour
      @mactwentytwentyfour Před 2 lety

      Honda in the US suffered really big blows the last couple of years with sales. Seems like they're really relying on the F1 tech to introduce something new to the car market for commercial sales. They've fallen behind some of the biggest competitors they have, and Indycar is really their main goal anyway.

    • @tommiko8313
      @tommiko8313 Před 2 lety +1

      Don't forget Honda is also developing next years engine (2022) as a parting gift to RB, but it won't be branded as Honda. If RB don't win this year, i think it'll definitely win next year - with the unbranded Honda engine..

  • @chillikoala
    @chillikoala Před 2 lety +7

    We should all be thankful that Honda are in F1, even though it'll just be their PU that lives on till 2026 after they leave. They entered this complex era at least 2 years behind development than the other manufacturers, and now they have produced an engine that's at least as good as the Mercedes (probably better) whilst Ferrari and Renault still languish behind. They managed to chase down the Mercedes bullet train. Very impressive. F1 is less without Honda.

  • @trebm3
    @trebm3 Před 2 lety +22

    Many knew there was something different about performance with RB. They denied it though

    • @villiamo3861
      @villiamo3861 Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, there a difference between "being shrewd", as this programme says, and lying.

    • @Doubles_Advocate
      @Doubles_Advocate Před 2 lety +1

      @@villiamo3861 I think he's referring to them denying the performance upgrade before it actually arrived, crazy how that works.

  • @arivette2010
    @arivette2010 Před 2 lety +11

    The animator deserves a raise.

  • @sumit16
    @sumit16 Před 2 lety +8

    These videos are just amazing keep the good work 👍

  • @nineelevensouth
    @nineelevensouth Před 2 lety

    Really appreciate when you guys go into the technical details like this

  • @FantasKanal
    @FantasKanal Před 2 lety +70

    Honda is really leaving on a high note.
    Huge respect!

    • @iqgamer5085
      @iqgamer5085 Před 2 lety

      They aren’t favorite, yes Honda announce but F1 told them ahead to do so willingly

    • @FantasKanal
      @FantasKanal Před 2 lety

      @@iqgamer5085 You are making 0 sense... I dont even have any clue what you tried to say...

    • @iqgamer5085
      @iqgamer5085 Před 2 lety

      @@FantasKanal it’s fine, don’t worry.

  • @akkio_bum9959
    @akkio_bum9959 Před 2 lety

    One of your better videos because great images and very well explained

  • @vincentrusso4332
    @vincentrusso4332 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for all the editing and research dad, great work Honda!

  • @codybutler1012
    @codybutler1012 Před 2 lety +7

    Content is top notch! Keeps me alive during F1 off weeks haha

  • @jasonmccarthy8633
    @jasonmccarthy8633 Před 2 lety

    Great videos on this channel only subscribed about a year now love the content keep it up 👍🏻

  • @ivanjulian2532
    @ivanjulian2532 Před 2 lety

    Nice video. Thanks heaps for making it.

  • @christophercastor6666
    @christophercastor6666 Před 2 lety

    Great explanation! Easily understood and accessible to everyone regardless of background or education. Cheers

  • @lynneslates2136
    @lynneslates2136 Před 2 lety

    Informative and helpful. Thanks!

  • @rynosraceroom66
    @rynosraceroom66 Před 2 lety +1

    #1 favorite video so far !👍🏻👍🏻🤘🏻🏁 thank you ma’am may I have another🤘🏻🏁

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks Před 2 lety +1

    Great video. Keep up the good work.

  • @salmanfaris7110
    @salmanfaris7110 Před 2 lety +6

    I would miss the Honda on the red bull livery.looks so good with the red bull package

  • @Chalky.
    @Chalky. Před 2 lety +9

    Honda could have so much more performance but they decided it's unfair to unleash the full power of the VTEC Yo!

  • @AVG-Garage
    @AVG-Garage Před 2 lety

    Well explained, so easy to understand! 👌👌👌

  • @samballard1479
    @samballard1479 Před 2 lety +1

    Solid video. Well done

  • @BadWallaby
    @BadWallaby Před 2 lety +6

    I love technology. Seeing how far these hybrid engines have come is so interesting to me. The new battery was explained so well in this video and even the explanation of the ERS in general was very well done!

  • @michaelsullivan3581
    @michaelsullivan3581 Před 2 lety

    Excellent explanation! Thanks!

  • @ackroyd11
    @ackroyd11 Před 2 lety

    I LOVE the race.. I watch every video to keep up to date

  • @callumburton1287
    @callumburton1287 Před 2 lety +2

    Good video the race👍

  • @GreyMop
    @GreyMop Před 2 lety

    the only place i trust for news and major updates because a lot of the motorsport article on websites are so cringe and click bait-ie it hurts thanks for doing good

  • @anugerahpambudi8175
    @anugerahpambudi8175 Před 2 lety

    Thank you, I've been wondering since France GP

  • @mechanicalpants
    @mechanicalpants Před 2 lety +1

    Man those chonk rear tyres are so gorgeous and shiny 1:26

  • @blademan7671
    @blademan7671 Před 2 lety +8

    Nice to finally understand regs of the battery system. “Charging” now makes sense since they can only charge 1/2 as much as they can use per lap.

    • @keeganclarke6475
      @keeganclarke6475 Před 2 lety +2

      They seem unnecessarily regulated, prohibiting relevant battery technology development.

    • @denismilic1878
      @denismilic1878 Před 2 lety

      @@keeganclarke6475 limitations are created to give drivers greater control over rear brakes. MGU-H can charge a battery without any limit.

    • @Gl-my8fw
      @Gl-my8fw Před 2 lety

      @@keeganclarke6475 that isnt a real problem anyways.

    • @keeganclarke6475
      @keeganclarke6475 Před 2 lety

      @@Gl-my8fw I disagree. They have limits on charging and on discharging (except with the mgu-h turbine spool). It is entirely reasonable to expect that this makes the battery less useful that it could be, for if it could carry a greater capacity or discharge at a higher rate then straightline performance could be improved. Battery technology is going to feature in all commercial vehicles in some form or another, so it would make sense for F1 to incentivise the development of battery tech. Instead the FIA has limited the two key factors of maximum charge and maximum rate of discharge.

    • @Gl-my8fw
      @Gl-my8fw Před 2 lety

      @@keeganclarke6475i hope you do know cars wont be going electric as quick as many pretend. Their goals are not feasible and the environmental reasoning is greatly exaggerated.

  • @whassupg89
    @whassupg89 Před 2 lety +5

    First update to that part since 2015, that’s mad

    • @David-vy5uh
      @David-vy5uh Před 2 lety

      Yeah. It’s also not true…

    • @David-vy5uh
      @David-vy5uh Před 2 lety

      Maybe first time they have changed the cell block and cells, but there were major design changes to the ES packaging, including the electronics in 2016 and 2017.

  • @alasdair1571
    @alasdair1571 Před 2 lety

    Great explanation

  • @y_fam_goeglyd
    @y_fam_goeglyd Před 2 lety +3

    Fascinating! Thank you. It's a shame that Honda is going, especially now they're looking so good.

  • @stevenmacdonald9619
    @stevenmacdonald9619 Před 2 lety +27

    Everything Toto says: He's just sandbagging, that can't be true
    Everything Red Bull Honda say: Oh wow, that's really interesting, we are really glad you shared that, thank you.

    • @Chris-xl6pd
      @Chris-xl6pd Před 2 lety +3

      Really shows how much just wanting Merc to lose permeates through the mind of many "F1 fans".

    • @rishinaik4326
      @rishinaik4326 Před 2 lety +2

      That's how Mercedes have portrayed themselves in these years . When they say Redbull are close they used to get 1-2 the following race ( 2020 season).
      That's what is in the minds of people

    • @stevenmacdonald9619
      @stevenmacdonald9619 Před 2 lety +2

      @@rishinaik4326 There's nothing worse than being blinded by biased optics, though. Regardless of it being within the rules, what Honda have done is making a mockery of ALL the so-called 'cost cutting' measures. Is F1 cutting costs or not? One minute everyone is getting put to the back of the grid for engine changes, and then the very next week, apparently, batteries are not an integral part of an engine in 2021?? Someone tell that to Elon Musk 😂 They have thrown so much money into this one aspect of the battery, when it won't count for nothing come next season. They did exactly the same thing in 2009, and it was Ross Brawn who cleaned up that time. How is it far when certain manufacturers can be adding parts with just 7 races to go?! That goes to RB and Merc. Whilst Haas.... are slower than my arsssse

    • @rishinaik4326
      @rishinaik4326 Před 2 lety +2

      @@stevenmacdonald9619 As far as engine development is concerned it will help next year but aero development won't help next year.

    • @stevenmacdonald9619
      @stevenmacdonald9619 Před 2 lety

      @@rishinaik4326 I thought they were removing the MCU-H from the energy recovery system for next season? Or is that 2023?

  • @bio_f1
    @bio_f1 Před 2 lety +29

    This championship is gonna come down to the wire me being a redbull fan hope that they can pull it off. I think that waiting to bring the upgrade later was really smart by Honda and will benefit max in the future

    • @rickjames1797
      @rickjames1797 Před 2 lety +4

      This is redbulls title to lose. But yeah I've got a feeling max and red bull will win this

    • @Orcawhale1
      @Orcawhale1 Před 2 lety +2

      Max can't handle the pressure, as evidenced by the radio call, before the crash in Monza.
      Hamilton can, though admittly his going to whine about it on the radio.

    • @denverkweh1642
      @denverkweh1642 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Orcawhale1 Sure,"magic button" goes off twice,odd crash at Imola,odd crash again at Sochi while none of these ever happened the previous years. Keep lying to yourself.

    • @ABlockBeats
      @ABlockBeats Před 2 lety

      @@denverkweh1642 LOL, i'll come back to your comment in a month. Let's see.

    • @SlacktivistWeeb
      @SlacktivistWeeb Před 2 lety +2

      @@Orcawhale1 Max has been far more composed than Ham this season. That Monza crash and angry radio were fueled by an awful 11 second pitsop that would've gotten anyone mad.

  • @FathyTekitek
    @FathyTekitek Před 2 lety

    Great work team, you are the Best

  • @LuisMolina-rc3tm
    @LuisMolina-rc3tm Před 2 lety

    Nice explained

  • @thordavid1968
    @thordavid1968 Před 2 lety

    Very well and simply explained

  • @Greenday4537
    @Greenday4537 Před 2 lety +2

    Love it. Great explanation of the upgrade brought in by Honda. They are super all-in at taking down Mercedes and you just gotta love the spirit.

  • @sp33dbump33
    @sp33dbump33 Před 2 lety +60

    Fun Fact : Nikita can swap as many engine as he can and not get penalty.

    • @Lunarfox
      @Lunarfox Před 2 lety +1

      no cause sometimes he starts p19 :)

    • @sp33dbump33
      @sp33dbump33 Před 2 lety +8

      @@Lunarfox Fun Fact 2 : He only started p18/19 if there are drivers who DNF, fail to set a time or did not take part in qualifying.

    • @Lunarfox
      @Lunarfox Před 2 lety +1

      @@sp33dbump33 he CAN (granted its fucking hard for him) beat mick in qualy so...
      no

    • @sp33dbump33
      @sp33dbump33 Před 2 lety

      @@Lunarfox My bad, I must have overlooked. So which Grand Prix did Nikita out qualify Mick?

    • @arfived4
      @arfived4 Před 2 lety

      Mazepin is a penalty

  • @ImpulseNOR
    @ImpulseNOR Před 2 lety +1

    What's the race's take on rapid switching of the mgu-h to bypass 4/2MJ limits for extra harvest and extra deploy?

  • @D5Pasadena
    @D5Pasadena Před 2 lety

    This music is amazing. More like this please. Very cyberpunk

  • @dalvid26
    @dalvid26 Před 2 lety

    Saving this for Monday morning in the car

  • @FiLLs18
    @FiLLs18 Před 2 lety

    Thanks nice video more like this👍

  • @irishRocker1
    @irishRocker1 Před 2 lety +41

    It seems to be working well. Merc engines seem to derate before the end of the straight in a lot of tracks whereas the RBs still have energy

    • @denzel9086
      @denzel9086 Před 2 lety +13

      Are you going to call for it to be banned like you did many a Merc parts? Of course not

    • @juanllanos3355
      @juanllanos3355 Před 2 lety +10

      @@denzel9086 cry

    • @denzel9086
      @denzel9086 Před 2 lety +9

      @@juanllanos3355 why would I be crying? A blk man is the most successful driver in the history of the sport. No matter what happens this year. You cry about that 😎

    • @remconoordermeer7015
      @remconoordermeer7015 Před 2 lety +25

      @@denzel9086 What a bullcrap response. Shifting from Merc to Hamilton’s skin colour is just… illogical. Go away, troll.

    • @denzel9086
      @denzel9086 Před 2 lety +3

      @@remconoordermeer7015 Let me guess you are projecting because you constantly undermine him. I'm not going anywhere, this is my sport to watch and enjoy too.

  • @muhammadzafar5489
    @muhammadzafar5489 Před 2 lety +4

    Can you make a video about what are new pitstop reg and why redbull are the slowest so far coz pf new regs?

  • @georgekerr8804
    @georgekerr8804 Před 2 lety

    Very interesting info.

  • @MihneaStoian
    @MihneaStoian Před 2 lety +7

    Most likely went with a higher V system, similar to how the latest gen electric cars have gone to 800V for faster charge/discharge and longer battery life. Maybe even went up to 1200V. Higher V means less heat and smaller wiring which mean less cooling which both weight less, allowing for more batteries

    • @johnbentley1986
      @johnbentley1986 Před 2 lety

      There is a 1000V upper-limit on the ERS system (Tech Regs 5.12.5). If higher voltage = less weight & less heat, you can be certain they are all already running at the maximum voltage allowed!

    • @utkarshgupta30
      @utkarshgupta30 Před 2 lety

      @@johnbentley1986 If i am not wrong, ferrari finally upgraded their system from 400V to 800V last race in Sochi so i guess its not that simple

    • @MajorBuzzkill23
      @MajorBuzzkill23 Před 2 lety

      I think Ferrari has a 1000V system now. But probably don't want to admit it publicly. 400V is seen in road cars for years already.

    • @denismilic1878
      @denismilic1878 Před 2 lety

      @@johnbentley1986 voltage don't lover battery weight only weight of wires, and MGU components because the amperage is lower. Voltage is a product of serial and parallel connections between battery cells. Capacity is dependent only of the number of cells.

  • @oscarpark1523
    @oscarpark1523 Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing to compare RB’s desperate search for a #2 to compete with Max to providing gasly and Perez an early developed battery to boost their ability to do the same vs merc’s archaic prima Donna & ‘wingman ‘ approach.

  • @jmf1134
    @jmf1134 Před 2 lety

    What a great a partnership! Committed to the very end.

  • @eoke6416
    @eoke6416 Před 2 lety

    Hello @therace, do you have any idea if the Honda battery is also a solid state, like the one Ferrari just introduced?

  • @SuperFrep
    @SuperFrep Před 2 lety +1

    Have a lot of respect for Honda.
    It’s not always been about money
    With Honda. Knowledge is more
    Important. They saw F1 hybrid systems
    As a challenge. They also knew, it wouldn’t
    Be easy. It’s cost them billions of dollars.
    If McLaren had been patient, they would be
    In the same position Redbull are in now.
    I wish Honda all the best. Great video guys 👍

  • @kimsoon80
    @kimsoon80 Před 2 lety +1

    Some TV producers should take this and make a documentary about Honda's return to F1, feel from glory, picked themselves up and made probably the best F1 engine in 2021.

  • @NeedforMine1
    @NeedforMine1 Před 2 lety +128

    It's crazy that literally everyone reveals their secrets except for Mercs

    • @wildwilco
      @wildwilco Před 2 lety +72

      because the mercs still have way more power than all other cars. atleast significantly. you can see how little downforce redbull runs with to even try and keep up, whilst mercedes run massive rear wings and can still go faster at the top end.
      its like mercedes is hiding something... maybe a potentially illegal part? thats why their engine has been so OP the past 7 years.

    • @leferryhuncho7586
      @leferryhuncho7586 Před 2 lety +1

      ?

    • @badass6300
      @badass6300 Před 2 lety +15

      @@wildwilco Yeah I've been wondering the same, but at the same time Mercedez maxed out the budget every year, while others didn't, so who knows.

    • @ABlockBeats
      @ABlockBeats Před 2 lety +5

      @@wildwilco their innovation is like no other team

    • @Lelouch980
      @Lelouch980 Před 2 lety +11

      @@wildwilco nah not really if they’re using illegal parts, that 7-world title will be void and null. Red bull usually brings out the illegal parts here

  • @upnorthyooper1196
    @upnorthyooper1196 Před 2 lety

    That explains a lot about what is going on.

  • @Cold187King
    @Cold187King Před 2 lety

    This is the reason why i love watching Formula 1

  • @RhodokTribesman
    @RhodokTribesman Před 2 lety +1

    What tires are those at 0:11? It's weird seeing a modern F1 car with grooved tires like that

  • @Ticklestein
    @Ticklestein Před 2 lety +39

    Lewis Hamilton is such a GOAT, he knew the Honda was upgraded before it even received an upgrade.

    • @DiscoR53
      @DiscoR53 Před 2 lety +29

      Well at least he had the chance to personally inspect the underside of it.

    • @robfer5370
      @robfer5370 Před 2 lety

      idd he did

    • @JustinAH
      @JustinAH Před 2 lety +11

      The car is the GOAT

    • @Jimfowler82
      @Jimfowler82 Před 2 lety +21

      Hamilton knows his tires are gone 30 laps before they gone

    • @Bearical
      @Bearical Před 2 lety +7

      Lewis Hamilton is such a GOAT, he has someone to hold his umbrella for him.

  • @GaryWagers
    @GaryWagers Před 2 lety

    IIRC Honda's battery was one of its most criticized problems in its McLaren days because it would run out of juice and start harvesting before the end of the straight, killing the car's top speed exactly when the driver needed it the most to defend (or, on very rare occasions, attack). I find it very interesting that Honda has only just now upgraded its battery elements, even though the complaints about its battery's early harvesting disappeared a long time ago.

  • @sammjn5696
    @sammjn5696 Před 2 lety +32

    Genuine question:
    Why doesn't williams make a road car like mclaren

    • @vxbosskroniksxv6267
      @vxbosskroniksxv6267 Před 2 lety +7

      its easier to establish yourself as a car brand and then a racing brand(mclaren) rather than a racing brand and then a car brand(williams)

    • @donatonoc_00
      @donatonoc_00 Před 2 lety

      @@vxbosskroniksxv6267 yeah..

    • @devilfox2206
      @devilfox2206 Před 2 lety +30

      @@vxbosskroniksxv6267 McLaren was a racing brand decades before it was a car brand.

    • @0799davey67
      @0799davey67 Před 2 lety +4

      You mean badly built, unreliable, abysmal after service........

    • @XA-lm5oz
      @XA-lm5oz Před 2 lety +20

      @@vxbosskroniksxv6267 this guy really thinks McLaren made cars before being a race team lol

  • @MikeGomeztheDMG
    @MikeGomeztheDMG Před 2 lety

    Incredible 🤯

  • @biwarikikumstackernz
    @biwarikikumstackernz Před 2 lety +11

    Well Done Honda!!! Again they have showed resilience and determination to bow out at a high. I hope they win the WDC this season.

    • @umey3445
      @umey3445 Před 2 lety +2

      Would be great if they could get the constructors too but I don’t think that will happen

    • @biwarikikumstackernz
      @biwarikikumstackernz Před 2 lety

      @@umey3445 If they pay a little bit more attention to Perez, and recognise that he could also be used to slow down Hamilton as Perez got a race pace. Maybe Red Bull sees things which we the spectators don't see. What do I know, am just a CZcams silver coin content creator.

  • @LewisSkinner
    @LewisSkinner Před 2 lety

    Fantastic explainer for an F1 newbie. I've shown this to several of my friends who agree.
    Keep it up!

  • @amaccama3267
    @amaccama3267 Před 2 lety +4

    Great video guys. Love the explanation and overall coverage of the package itself. It also proves to me that I'm right. The current engine regs suck balls.

  • @550LMS
    @550LMS Před 2 lety

    Everyone at "The Race''...as a life-long F1 fan this is by far the best News delivery group there is. Full of info that anyone can understand. Went through the entire Bring Back V10 catalogue over the past few weeks and thoroughly enjoyed it. Only now I saw the Podcast on Spotify...Been listening to it all day! Thank you and keep up the great work!

  • @forzabrendan739
    @forzabrendan739 Před 2 lety

    Hard to believe how far Honda have come since 2015

  • @1crazypj
    @1crazypj Před 2 lety

    I would be more interested in knowing the physical size of the battery? Is it regulated or only the weight? Using 'super capacitors' as part of 'battery' the charge can be almost instantaneous with a drain to slowly charge main battery which will increase it's lifespan. As carbon nanotube technology is progressing, 'super caps' can be more easily factored into the equation.
    'Super caps' have been used for many years in city buses so there is a precedent (and probably why Tesla purchased the largest US super cap manufacturer in 2019)
    If Honda is supplying power units to red Bull, they are only partly removed so developments are not wasted.

  • @kenanderson9331
    @kenanderson9331 Před 2 lety +1

    It will be interesting to watch Pierre for the remainder of the season since becoming aware of the upgrade. Max is a Bull to begin with so it’s expected he may be running at the limit anyway but how does Pierre respond???…….

  • @CalgarGTX
    @CalgarGTX Před 2 lety

    Would be nice if you could drop the 'music' in the background

  • @paulschmolke188
    @paulschmolke188 Před 2 lety +1

    Complicated? Yes. Effective? Yes. Reliable? Yes. Hondas quite impressive👍🏽

  • @justanaverageguy1351
    @justanaverageguy1351 Před 2 lety

    I don't know if it's de ja vu but I can SWEAR that The Race previously ran this video not that long ago. I haven't checked in on the channel for a couple of weeks and I already knew the story.
    Then again I could be wrong, maybe another channel ran the exact-same story

  • @lyclycsms
    @lyclycsms Před 2 lety

    each car have how many battery and how long does this battery last?

  • @hishamhilal8332
    @hishamhilal8332 Před 2 lety

    Beautiful

  • @Gigika313
    @Gigika313 Před 2 lety +3

    Sad they are leaving, love Honda.

  • @thequietman7817
    @thequietman7817 Před 2 lety

    Honda announced all this last year when they told the world they were leaving F1, the said they would bring forward changes originally planned for 2022.

  • @christophercharles7764
    @christophercharles7764 Před 2 lety +1

    VTEC kicks in

  • @rhysgordon1698
    @rhysgordon1698 Před 2 lety +3

    A positive comments section? on an F1 video?
    Great job team.

  • @kushthakker8223
    @kushthakker8223 Před 2 lety +1

    I know many mentioned this but just give the graphic designers who worked on the visuals of this video a pay rise. What a talented person they are 🔥🔥

  • @BRI33NOR
    @BRI33NOR Před 2 lety

    Several reports say that th VW group of companies are testing an engine suitable for F1 racing, under the headings of Porsche/ Audi. Both well known in racing circles. Wonder if they will work with RedBull in the further development of their power units ?. Would that then be an all Austrian team ?

  • @Maceyee1
    @Maceyee1 Před 2 lety

    Solid state batteries

  • @jimjam0310f1
    @jimjam0310f1 Před 2 lety +1

    As a Mercedes fan, but a fan of clever engineering, I have to admit this was very clever.

  • @barfymann362
    @barfymann362 Před 2 lety

    Shoutout to his family

  • @xxxxghostxxxx2052
    @xxxxghostxxxx2052 Před 2 lety

    The Power of Dreams!

  • @fraja666
    @fraja666 Před 2 lety

    What's the name of the backing track?

  • @OblivionsEdge
    @OblivionsEdge Před 2 lety +2

    WAIT?!!! IS THIS WHY THE 'HYBRID' UNDER THE HONDA LOGO ON THE CAR HAS CHANGED TO 'E TECHNOLOGY'

  • @jonlamontagne
    @jonlamontagne Před 2 lety

    You guys did a story about this before the summer break I thought?

  • @flamuralaj3302
    @flamuralaj3302 Před 2 lety

    I hope this Honda RedBull shows up in Honda's roster in Gran Turismo 7, so I can try it out in sim.

  • @paulmckinder3082
    @paulmckinder3082 Před 2 lety

    I did hear along the grape vine that redbull approached duracell for there battery

  • @nickysixx2480
    @nickysixx2480 Před 2 lety

    I still can’t believe Honda are leaving!