/ bloggingtheology / freemonotheist I read from 'The Cambridge Companion to the Qur'ān' Edited by Jane Dammen McAuliffe www.cambridge.org/core/books/...
Lol A Christian missionary accusing the Quran of having not been preserved is like Hitler himself accusing people of anti-Semitism. The hilarious hypocrisy is palpable....
Oh brother Paul from the speaker's corner.. I remember you now, I saw you doing an epic debate, and was wondering when to see you again. Glad you opened your youtube channel. May Allah increase your iman, ameen.
@@b89976 i think he is neither.Im sure i heard him say something about "when he was a Christian" but he believes in a superior power.From what I've seen from him,he is getting things right Alhamdulillah. May Allah bring him to Islam. Ameen. Edit:I think I got it wrong.There is a video of him and the title says Debate between a Christian and a Muslim.When the Christian guy was presenting the debate he said,"I am a Christian and ofcourse Paul is a Muslim"And Paul didn't say anything.Subhan Allah.
"We" who is this "WE"? إِنَّا نَحۡنُ نَزَّلۡنَا ٱلذِّكۡرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُۥ لَحَٰفِظُونَ It is us who sent down the reminder, and will be its guardian. -Surah Al-Hijr, Ayah 9 The ONE you are reading with tashkil, has been made into language.. Original has NO VOWELS? WHY?
@Lilia murah This abomination of a human being, is referring to people as “Dalit” who are the lower - caste - people living in India, they are deemed as “untouchables” in India. This “Lilah Murah” is just an Indian waste of space. Please ignore him/her.
@Omar Mahmoud Salama Invaluable means incredibly valuable or ‘valuable beyond estimation’. It is a good thing. If something is invaluable, it is more valuable than if it were described as ‘valuable’. English is a weird language and in this case he was complimenting this video and Paul.
@Rayrad 696 and i don't believe in you because you are telling me to believe in Jesus as God come on, if you really were a Christian with logical belief in Christianity then you would have tried to explain me as a layman which Christians can never, ever do it. There is no guidance in Christianity, in Islam we have the smallest of detail on how to do things right how to eat, sleep, drink water, how to use toilet, wash yourself, etc so please. I m a Muslim, I'm wondering how you guys will ever be able to convince an atheist about Jesus being God. Please open your heart and learn Islam before it's too late.
@Rayrad 696 yeah I saw you telling Jesus as Prophet. If that's the case in your heart then we are on the same boat. Why do I need to rely on Bible when Quran clearly says Jesus as Prophet too. Bible has been corrupted over time. Jesus is not the last Prophet and it is clearly mentioned in Bible too. As Jesus (Peace be Upon him) mentioned Prophet Muhammad's (Peace be Upon him) coming. I will send you the video link
@Rayrad 696 but how can i believe that bible is totally correct and preserved although there is some context which i believe is only God word but i don't think so it could be preseved very well because it's summarize after Century of Essa pbuh dead ,and also you know the fact from human behavior if i have to give you any msg through some people the exact context of a msg would changed
@Rayrad 696 Well, I'm not reading that. But I will never worship a God that attributes to Himself jealousy, which is something inappropriate for God. and punishes people for their father's deeds (Exodus 20:5).
The Quran is challenging anyone to investigate it’s authenticity. It’s a mission for Muslims and non-Muslims. It’s not about the text only, but the spiritual meanings.
@RD discipline The guidance thing is not a claim. It is the genre of the book; it is about your life after death. The Islamic elevator pitch is that God created a universe running on physical laws and then put man in it, endowed with moral sense. Those who live life morally, will get to enter heavens. Creator can boast; created's humility is a moral virtue. But you're right about Muslims' not having read the book, and perhaps even about them believing what they're told, and that is rather unfortunate, IMHO.
@RD discipline According to my reading of the book, the soul is breathed into the baby in mother's womb around 120th day or so. Upon death, and upon every night during REM sleep, that soul is taken; restored if life is to continue. Even the soul without body may be able to dream; it may dream a nightmare, or dream an ecstatic dream. Rules of this life are different than rules of the next life. Here sex is limited to marriage because our children take forever to grow up; so parental units need incentive to stay together. This life is a test: test of patience for those in trials and tribulations, and test of gratitude for those given abundance. Evil is allowed, for free will to be exercised, but the consequences ensue. Perpetual abode in heaven has been explicitly spelled out in the book, but whether hell is perpetual, God is silent and the silence is subtle.
@RD discipline In the Book. God talks about when another creature is born, around the 4th month of pregnancy. Nightly taking of soul is also in the book. Soul dreaming is also in the book. For instance, the Book orders us not to call the Martyred dead, it insists that they are fed though we may not understand it. As for heavenly rewards and purgatory punishments, the what and why is mentioned but not necessarily the how.
Well said Sir Paul. "Is the Qur'an reliably transmitted? Well it depends of who you ask" Ask those who are knowledgeable, the experts, those who are impartial genuine scholars who do justice without fear or favour. Not Christian missionaries or apologists whose only intention is to deride, ridicule and attack Islam and their views should be completely ignored and disregarded by Muslims. May God bless you Sir Paul.
Thank you for this video! Your research has been kind and fair to a much maligned community of believers. I am an ardent fan of Prophet Muhammad. I am amazed by this man. The Quran, that we got from him, has the most perfect definition of God that can always be verified as truth, even as time passes by and human intellect gets more advanced. Any genius or ordinary person with a humble intellect will agree to the definition of God as defined in the Quran. God is defined as one who is beyond comparison and beyond comprehension. When someone asked Prophet Muhammad's wife, Bibi Aisha, as to how many times the prophet saw Allah, she got angry and said that if any person said that Prophet Muhammad saw Allah, then he is the greatest liar in the world. She proclaimed that as per the Quran nobody can comprehend Allah. This is the truth about the Quran's definition of God. Prophet Muhammad could easily have started a totally new religion, but he didn't. He adopted all the Prophets, all the rituals, way of prayer (Namaz) from Judaism, and also Jesus with virgin birth from Christianity, into Islam. Even Muslims initially prayed facing Jerusalem. Now what is going on here? What kind of a new religion is this which is hell bent on unifying people instead of standing out as a totally separate religious community. It will take many more years to fully understand and grasp at the amazing achievements of Prophet Muhammad. I will recommend all to read Shahi Bukhari's Hadith. Read the accounts of Prophet Muhammad's friends, relatives and wives', specially the accounts of Bibi Aisha, where she states that there never were three consecutive days when the Prophet and she had a good meal! This simple and humble man!
@@nirdmarshal7270 that punk with clear 107 lies who said paul is in Quran🤣 and hazrat khadija was a Christinan 🤣🤣 and darkness means pennis in quran😔😔😔.... IDIOT you are!!!!!!!!!! With alll ur hate... U never listened any thing paul said.... He brings up all scholars not missionaries.... CP is an aplogetics but dale martin, bart ehrman are scholars . What arw u gonna say to their allegations against bible
No man is better role model than Jesus Christ, no man is a better example to the world than Jesus. Jesus lived a sinless life, he did not have sex with 9 women in 1 day. Jesus did not have sex with a 9 year old when he was 56, nor did Jesus have sex with women mistresses. Christ's example has remained relevant since 4 BC and it never will be outdated and nobody has lived a more spotless life than Jesus. Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. Nobody gets to our heavenly Father but through His son Jesus Christ.
I'm surprised the not even a single one have mentioned this. We have something called the Idjazah-A living chain of recitation to the Prophet himself PBUH. And it's not just one, thousands and even hundreds of thousands.
@@thinkislamcheckmychannel you just said its like chinese whispers and then say its preserved. How do you know if it is preserved and that it wasnt different before the whispering started?
The preservation of the Qu'ran: Facts. The messenger of Allah had 18 writers to write the verses as soon as they were revealed, so he supervised the whole process, as Allah the exalted made him teach mankind, but himself was prevented from being able to read or write. The full written Qu'ran was stored at our mother (Hafsa) the Wife of the messenger, however the muslims never needed them as virtually nearly everyone memorised the Qu'ran fully. However After the Messenger's departure, and many of the Messenger's companions departed this life and the rest spread in world, as well as series of non arab nations started to embrace Islam, so muslims were fearful that these millions of people may not pronounce the Qu'ran correctly, so Caliph Uthman formed a committee of the Messenger's companions, and formally produced the first Qu'ran book, using the Qu'ran that is kept at Hafsa's house as well as the committee are full equipped with the full memorization. And called book (Muss'haf Al-Qu'ran). And they sent a copy to Iraq, Egypt, Syria and other places, as well as one remained in Medina. There're still available in the World biggest museums. Salam Alaikum, Peace to everyone Salam
@@Mikesco10 This is actually incorect. As the brother mentioned above, the Prophet pbuh had various scribes writing for him s.a.w. in his lifetime. It was just not yet collected in a form a 'book'. Allah knows best. May Allah guide and bless us all, ameen.
Actually It was Abu Bakr who gave the assignment to Zaid ibn Thabit to assemble the quran in one book format(note that Abu Bakr himself was a Hafiz [had the Quran memorized] and ofcourse Zaid was a Obvious Hafiz) . Because of the magnitude of this assignment Abu Bakr set extremely strict rules. 1st Zaid had to find a every verse of the quran written (so not from his own notes and memory). 2nd Zaid had to find 2 witnesses that heard that verse directly from the profeet PBOH (so they could not have learned it from each other). The Quran in book form was collected like this. 3rd Abu Bakr had Zaid Review it 3 times, and each time he had to review it with 2 witnesses. 4th Abu Bakr asked Zaid to hand it over (note again that Abu Bakr is a Hafiz, and he memorized the quran in the correct order) and finally he reviewed it himself. Just imagine all the effort. Afterwards ppl started copying from this book format and no one supervised what they copied, And ppl copied from those copies and so on. This was bound to get problematic in the long term that's why the personal copies got destroy after 6 accurate copies were made of that book format with again strict rules in the time of Uthman and it was again supervised by Zaid, and the copies were made by Abdullah ibn azzubair, said ibn al aas and abdurrahman ibn al harith ibn al Hisham (those 3 were specialized in the Quran + Zaid as supervisor of this committee) those 6 copies got reviewed many times after completion. All the sahaba (the companions) agreed with the burning of the notes unanimously. Even Ali said afterwards: this happened only with our advies, and we are grateful for this othewise we would have had different version much like the bibles.
@@jigokuuu You're right in the chain of events. I've skipped this process, and focused on the Uthman committee as it's the official and best known. Jazaka Allahu kheir
Thanks for the vlog. I don't think I would ever had the time to read all these research books/ papers myself, thanks to you, individuals like me also have the opportunity to hear and understand some of it. Again thank you very much.
@@fedesetrtatio1 1000+ years old San-āa scripts, about 900 scripts in total which contains verses from the holly Quran, every single scripts matches the modern Quran so yeah it's been preserved perfectly as Allah promised. Have a nice day.
@@fedesetrtatio1 yeah you really did lol...go put your ego under a rock and start reading actual books instead of listening to your priests audiobooks.
Hats off to this wise and learned man. Thank you for your great work, Sir. My heart and mind yearned for something like what you are doing on your channel. Best regards from your russian subscriber.
Angelika Neuwirth is spot on here. Jay Smith has attempted these revionist theories in his apologetic career and debates for a long time now. But it has been pointed out to Jay many times, in his famous debate with Shabir Ally for example, that this thing that Patricia Crone and Michael Cook were coming with is all nonsense. With their radical revionist theories on the origins of Islam. Many orientalist scholars in the field have already criticized these views. Like William Montgomery Watt, F.E. Peters, Norman Daniel and so on. Patricia Crone and Michael Cook then later even came out and revised their views. Great video Paul, keep it up 👍🏼
And because they have been criticized you disregard it? Your blindness is patently obvious. Weren't Muhammed or 'the authors of the koran' REVISIONISTS? but i will answer my question: Yes he/they were. Their thought was RADICALLY DIFFERENT coming 600 years after the Bible. Most everything written in that book is starkly different to the histories and science it pretends to cover. And yet you, Paul the video guy, and all other somewhat 'innocent' muslims glorify the Koran for 'SETTING STRAIGHT' that which has been corrupted. AMAZING! You seem to be or write like quite an intellectual in these few words you have put up. Why this double standard? Why haven't you rejected the Koran based on its revisionist writings? Why haven't you properly reviewed the koran for inconsistencies (which abound far too much)? Why haven't you therefore appealed to scholars who have opposing views on this revisionist writing known as the Koran? However, isn't that the 'nature of the beast' one writes this and someone else opposes it? What thought ever goes unopposed? Is that reason to not on your own delve deeply into them? Don't you fear the implications? Weren't the ideas of great thinkers opposed in the past and some even killed or tortured for it such as the prophets of the old testament? Wasn't the same Crone threatened for her academic research? How can you as a people be so smart on the one and yet still simplistic when it comes to truth and its implications to your religion and consequently your souls? Someone must be wrong at the end of the day. Yahweh of the Bible is not Allah of the Koran. There is no congruency. Shabir Ally says much much much and says significantly little little little. Did he answer the claims directly via his own investigation or did he just use his oft mentioned phrase that scholars have debunked those claims. Thereof providing NO EVIDENCE to directly counter the ACTUAL claims of these 'revisionists'. However, Jay Smith and others of current times are providing evidence (considered strong or not) against the revisionist book known as the koran and you reject their thoughts still. They are not just saying the Koran has been changed and is also not what you think it is but are additionally providing evidence of such and you still reject them. Based on 'scholars'. Throwing out the 'baby with the bathwater' is leaving you Muslims in a very terrible situation. Because you keep turning a blind eye and heart to these realities you never properly search them out. It leaves you defenseless in these areas and able only to begin chanting the mantra of perfect preservation. It is reckless thinking that by not personally dealing with the dragon in the room that it is not still going to eat you alive and as many as are in the muslim house. It grieves me the level of intellectual dishonesty that I come across here. And i should also say the level of emotional dishonesty. You defend the REVISIONIST koran using scholars yet reject the REVISIONIST writings on the koran based on scholars But as someone basically said: "A statement without support merits denial without reason" the Koran being without historical and scientific support merits everyone to deny it without any reason. Since muslims have practiced the formerly described anti-logic against others they should not require persons to practice logic now so conveniently. But may their intellectual dishonesty neither thrive nor remain in the world of truth and fact.
@@teachmetheway7081 If you bring someone who can show us evidence please for gods sake let it not be Jay Smith, I have been watching his videos and debates from the early 20. Not a single time have I seen him come with something logical. He tried very hard in many debates to take out things out of context and tried to throw it on our faces. Yet every time he did that we educated him in his own game. I mean for someone with a Phd in theology and 30 years of so called comparative religion and bible studies he is very lame. He couldn't even win an argument in a bible debate with shabir Ali. Yet he tries to educate us on our own islamic theology?? Now he got that side kick of him Al-Fadi who nods along with him every time and tries to come across like scholar by dressing like a arabi in the Americas yet ayoung guy in his 20s gave him a taste of his own medicine and shut him up. We even educated Jay Smith in speakers corner in London by a layman when it came to his claims of different verses / standardization of the Quran. We don't need Islamic scholars to educate these characters or these apologetics / evangelists.
@Jack Wiliam Probably unnecessarily scared of being killed for my belief in Jesus by muslims/muslim sympathizers. But not scared of Islam as a belief system. yep i say derogatory things about islam because they added up a bit too quickly against this religion. I thought probably hinduism was more suspect re: beliefs but Islam honestly supersedes it by one book, one man and one prophecy. If you have read some of my comments i need not repeat those three. I should even not need to repeat the 1 = 3 aspect either. However, "I think you need to lower your ego and see the truth. It is not my soul that will cry on judgement day it will be yours, don't support the weird doctrine of a man made church." needs to be answered. Ego is thinking that you alone have the truth and are not willing to hear and listen to others Ego is saying that Christians believe a lie while muslims believe in counter factual accounts of history (even in the face of extra-biblical history saying as much) Re: Crying on judgement day it is possible i may be crying on judgement day. But i don't intend to be crying because I believed in obvious lies. These things of doctrine may be a lie. God is who he is. He reveals what he wants and does what he wants. However, there are facts that should never be disputed. Any religion that says that certain facts did not occur must be a religion built on lies. As to man-made, i am telling you solidly that yours is man-made. you think it is of God Almighty sent down from above only because that has been the mantra you were taught from the first till now. Had you been taught the things i read about you would be less egotistical about your religion. I don't think that my belief is not man-made. In fact I AM PROUD OF THAT. But to lie to myself that it came from God directly like the commandments unto moses is doing my soul a terrible disservice. Moreover, to tell others that your religion is the truth given these things and others is misleading. So therefore, i can guarantee you that on judgement day those teachers of the 'laws of God' who willfully taught others lies will be crying. Jesus is stated as saying that false prophets and false christs will come. he said also that many will come in that day saying Lord Lord. He will say depart from me because you did not show charity to the least of his brethren. Ask yourself the question gentle Jack, are you one of the 'brethren' of Christ? Do you honor him as your brother or as just a prophet? If the latter is the case it means that his admonition automatically applies to you is the case. The concept of going to hell because of stupidity is horrible but it is very possible. Death will come for sure for us all. Judgment day will/will not come according to some. But the best investment of your soul is in Jesus. Muhammed had no answer for where he would end up. He couldn't even speak with certainty even in light of him 'spending time with God'. You are going to place all your chips on that number. It doesn't seem sensible to be honest. Jesus was for some reason pretty confident in himself according to scripture. He alone he said was the way the truth and the life: no man would come to the Father except by him. But you reject the certainty he provides and lean on the balance of your good deeds versus your bad deeds. But it is this very thing that will judge you. As I said before, telling him in that day Lord Lord means nothing if you didn't do good to his brethren - whoever you think they really are. I HOPE THIS WAS ENOUGH OF A RANT FOR YOU!!
@Jack Wiliam on your media comment. Question: when do we ever believe in media's honesty? Is it only when they are investigating others? I hope you are not going to say that muslims do nothing to provoke anger in the world. Or that it is because of provocation from western powers? But if even one of your so called scholars can agree that islam was spread by the sword which i and many others agree with why would you deny this? why would you deny this and make it seems as if you are the victims in the whole charade?
You've been blessed with knowledge and very good research methods.Don't stop what you doing whatever the topic you choose.I love how unbiased your channel is.
Wish you could mention the Quran fragment found in the University of Birmingham which was dated back to either the life of the Prophet Mohammed or certainly to his companions.
Here's a very easy to follow Statistical Analysis on the Birmingham Manuscript and also comparing it to the Sanaa Manuscript: www.researchgate.net/publication/328215240_STATISTICAL_ANALYSIS_OF_THE_BIRMINGHAM_QURAN_FOLIOS_AND_COMPARISON_WITH_THE_SANAA_MANUSCRIPTS
@@Silence4725 @ArifZaman You're most welcome friends. I added this source to the Wikipedia article on Qur'anic preservation because it stated that the text "largely conforms" but I think the statistics show that it "entirely" conforms with the current text. I don't know if any of you realize but this is actually empricial proof for the verse : We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption). إِنَّا نَحْنُ نَزَّلْنَا الذِّكْرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُ لَحَافِظُون [Surat Al Hijr: Verse 9]
Yes the quran story of adam made from clay placed on this earth by god, is not true, if taken literally, it didnt happen, its a myth. Its a ridiculous story anyway but evolution has given us a true understanding of human history.
Usually when I know a myth to be ridiculous I’d just move on and not waste any time on the topic. Why are you here if you’re so convinced it’s a ridiculous theory? Live your blank, meaningless, Godless life without bothering those of us who do believe in Allah and His prophets.
Good Morning Paul, love your review ... Just small input on Camera Focus and Lighting. You need to adjust Camera Focus to your face (not book shellf) and change / add Vlog lighting ($15-20 only, rechargable)... Keep up your good review 👍😎👍
Assalam u Alaikum brother Paul I just wanna say I hope you realize how important and crucial the work you are doing is, I hope you realize that Allah has chosen you to spread his message. It could have been anyone but Allah saw something in you I always make dua for you. You are our big asset. keep doing the great work. May Allah be pleased with you, Ameen.
Khalifa Osman was assassinated in 656 while reading Quran that Quran with blood marks is still in existence in a museum in Damascus Syria. Prophet passed away in 632 The few pages of Quran recently found in a museum in Birmingham England have been carbon dated 600 -680. The wording is exactly the same as in Quran being used today.
Hi Paul. Really love your videos and thoughts. I was wondering how did you become interested in reading about the religions and viewing them from a historical perspective. Once again many thanks.
academic explanation but you make it easy for us to understand, you are a good teacher thank you 🙏🙏. Allah made Quran easy to memorized “(This is) a Book which We have sent down to you, full of blessings, that they may ponder over its Ayat, and that men of understanding may remember.” Surah Saad (38:29), “So We have made this (the Qur’an) easy in your own tongue, only that you may give glad tidings to those who have Taqwa and warn with it the most quarrelsome people.” Surah Maryam (19:97) My son memorized 30 Surah, and he is 6 arabic isn't his mother language hope he can memorized all Surah one day. And many other children memorized whole Quran on a very young age. Masya Allah.
Thats the miracle of the Quran. The oral poetic tradition got the Message memorized and replicated very quick. The text was eventually supplemental to preserve the Quran
Dear Brother Paul..your topics is deep and serious concludes the very doubt of authenticity of Book of revelation from Allah.. Thanks for presenting this knowledge and may Allah gives guidance to us all..Ameen
Assalaamu Alaikum Paul and thank you once again. Not only do you provide excellent content but your delivery is so eloquent. Regardless of any religious affiliations you may or may not have your truly doing the work of Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta’ala
Thank you very much for your high quality presentation Peter...🙏👍 By the way, could you presenting us about Cleanliness in Islamic, Judeo-christian concepts and their application present and historical accounts
Hi Paul, may I recommend going over to the EFdawah yt channel and joining them on one their streams, as you seem to share a lot of similar ideas. I'm sure they'll love having you.
@@d10srelish40 Both have been genuinely preserved. Unless you're an expert on علم الحديث then I'd like to see your research & findings. Otherwise, no need to answer this comment. TY.
Great! To me, Bro. Paul is 'the friendly bridge' between the general non-muslim as well as muslim public and the western honest academics/tesearches in the field... Keep up the good work, Paul! May Allah guide you...
Has the Bible been reliably preserved? If we compare the antique manuscripts of the old and new testament, with the modern Bible. You'll find a lot of contradictions and no consistency. Some stories in the modern Bible, are even missing in the antique Biblical manuscripts. The Quran doesn't have many discrepancies, in this regard.
The Quran is perfectly preserved as it was preserved orally with mutawatir chains. The bible is totally unreliable: no originals, no known authors, no clear criteria as to what decides whether something is scripture or not, no objective criteria for what the final Canon should be
@@monoth4555 the many are dead and gone how do we know uthman included everything some died in war and uthman did burn some manuscripts we can't just assume what uthman wrote is the entire narrative and besides there is no earlier manuscript to compare it to so you have to keep pushing the lie that it perfectly preserved.
@@adjoa-anima Did you not listen to the video, did you not read what scholars have to say. You listen to liars and don't care about the truth. Can you respond with even one small verse that is added like we find with the bible. If you can I will accept Quran is not preserved. If not and you will not please confirm none added. Can we say same for New Testament??? Please answer. .
Surah Taha, Verse 4: تَنزِيلًا مِّمَّنْ خَلَقَ الْأَرْضَ وَالسَّمَاوَاتِ الْعُلَى A Revelation from Him Who created the earth and the high heavens. Surah Al-Hijr, Verse 9: إِنَّا نَحْنُ نَزَّلْنَا الذِّكْرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُ لَحَافِظُونَ Surely We have revealed the Reminder (Quraan) and We will most surely be its guardian.
Honest and neutral intellectuals always find that the Quran is preserved. But those with an agenda dispute this .... but that’s exactly what they are ... those with an agenda. Oh well - if someone simply wants to argue and clearly don’t have any interest in the truth - what can one say?
Honest and neutral intellectuals find that the Quran is well preserved. None will sign a statement that it is well preserved enough to scientifically claim it is the word of God. Nobody doubts a significant amount of effort was put into preserving the Quran by believers, but for a direct word of God it would need to be 100% and more and more scientists are acknowledging that there is evidence of human elements in the transmission at all levels. Close scrutiny will show that Islam is just another great religion, but that claims of owning the direct word of God cannot be proven.
@@ohana_is_family they can be...Qur'an has got many miracles. Historical, mathematical, scientific,Iinguistic and literal miracles. Also not just that Qur'an also contains prophecies....what else u need for the proof that it is from Allah almighty?
@@tahanafis4970 That's belief rather than fact. It's like arguing for or against resurrection. You either believe it or you don't. But there is no evidence. Just rhetoric and playing on what people want to hear.
Asalamu alaikum ramatulla wa barrakatu salaam paul can you make a video of Paul's contradictory stories on his way to damascus and apostle paul meaning of guile what did he mean by it?
The oldest Quran which can be found in the Birmingham museum, which dates to the time of the companions using carbon dating. It contains 3 Suras: Taha طه، Maryam مرسم، al kahaf الكهف. It is letter for letter the same as today's quran
Hello sir Have you looked in to the works of Professor Javed Ahmed ghamdi but his work is in Urdu, but one of his students have translated his work in English Dr shazad Saleem on Islam it’s mind blowing work. You doing great work to misconceptions on Islam and Christianity. Thank you
Little difference. But remember: “The Quran was revealed in seven modes. Each verse among them has an outward and an inward, and each limit has a horizon.” Sharḥ Mushkil al-Āthār 3095
And they are right Sadeghi and Bergmann defines the Uthmanic text type as agreeing with the text of the 1924 Cairo Edition of the Quran, a tradition that “reportedly began with the codices ʿUthmān disseminated as the ancestors of all the manuscripts in the textual tradition”. *These codices all agree on: 1. the order of the surahs; 2. the order of the verses within each surah; and 3. the content of these verses in terms of individual words* (Sadeghi and Bergmann 2010: 347).
Shall we start calling you Imam Paul??????? Perhaps we should ask David Wood who seems to spend more time attacking Muslims and Islam than defending his own faith. The bible was written by many authors many whom arent even known. Moses wrote the Torah and it it contains stories about what occurred after he died, obviously he didn't write the Torah. Nobody knows who wrote the Gospels, some of Paul's writings are not by Paul to if you listen to Bart Erhman. The interesting thing about the Qur'an is the poetic form it is written in which is probably why there are people who have memorised much of it or indeed some have memorised it all. Christian missionaries also liked to point out how much violence is in the Qur'an totally oblivious to how much is in the Bible.
God in the Quran promises clearly to protect the Quran from corruption. Indeed, God has protected the Quran. The Quran has remained the same.The quran is the final book and it can never be changed because God says ""We have without doubt, send down the message; and We will assuredly guard it(from corruption)." The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 15, Verse 9. All the verses that were revealed to prophet Mohammad by angel Gabriel are included in the Quran that is available today. The Quran was revealed in Arabic language and Muslims consider only the Arabic Quran to be the Word of God and any translation of the Quran to other languages are mere translations of the Quran to people who do not understand Arabic language because translations are authored by ordinary human beings whereas the Arabic Quran is authored by God. Therefore, those translations are not considered by Muslim as a Word of God or holy scriptures. The 5 daily prayers of Muslims are in Arabic (most of what is said by Muslims during a prayer consist of reciting verses from the Quran). However, Muslims are not required to be able to speak Arabic, other than learning to utter few sentences in Arabic that are part of regular prayers.
I like what the scholar Norman Brown wrote about the book by Crone and Cook: “in Apocalypse and/or Metamorphosis (1991) that Hagarism, "illustrates in an ominous way the politics of Orientalism", and citing Grabar's review, added that, "The Western tradition of urbane *condescension has degenerated into aggressive, unscrupulous even, calumny.”* Indeed most of the early and current orientalists seem to be dismissive of anything that has to do with Islam and Muslim civilization. They follow in the footsteps of those Christians from the time of Charlemagne who saw the Muslims as enemies and therefore posed an existential threat to christiandom. They resorted to demonization, lies and character assassination of the prophet Muhammad. Decade after decade century after another they have produced literature full of hateful and condescending publications. It is still going on today though some are realizing the futility of such efforts especially during this time of kumbaya and live and let live. There are also decent Muslim scholars who are willing and capable of challenging egregious and false claims. Everyone should welcome good scholarship but we must disregard and dismiss the garbage spewed by John wansbrough and his ilk. They pretend to write scholarly books but their assumptions get in the way of writing decent literature.
Sometimes i want to exchange conversations but my knowledge about my own religion is below common people. so, the only thing i can do is say thanks for sharing knowledge about islam from western perspective..
@@jettyharrison4377sorry I meant to say lord of the worlds not lords ofcourse! Indeed ‘It is a revelation from the lord of the worlds, and if Muhammed had made up about us some false sayings we would have seized him from the right hand;then we would have cut from him the aeorta. And there is no one of you who could prevent us from him. And indeed the Quran is a reminder for the righteous. And indeed we know that among you are deniers and indeed it will be a cause of regret upon the disbelievers. And indeed, it is the truth of certainty. So exalt the name of your lord , the most great , the lord of the worlds the almighty ‘ALLAH’. Surah 69- Al-Haqqa ( the inevitable reality) . So basically I’m just trying to re-iterate by saying Allah is the lord of the worlds and not just mere lords of this Earth my dear jetty!
@@jettyharrison4377 also as a proud Muslim I must tell you that I have the utmost respect for ISA(Alaihis Salaam) may peace be upon him AKA YESHUA/JESUS . He is also one of our prophets and he is mentioned as the messiah(Al-Masih) in the holy Quran ! So I love ISA(Alaihis Salaam) much more than you I believe! Thanks brother and remember we love our prophet Jesus and we love you too :)
@@jettyharrison4377 The Quran itself forbids moon worship in Quran 41:37 [5]Among His signs are the day and the night, the sun and the moon. Do not prostrate to the sun or the moon, but prostrate to Allah, Who created them ˹all˺, if you ˹truly˺ worship Him ˹alone Do not prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostrate to Allah, who created them.
@@jettyharrison4377 The idea was first proposed by archeologist Hugo Winckler in 1901. It was widely propagated in the United States in the 1990s, first via the publication of Robert Morey.More recent scholars have rejected this view, partly because it is speculation but also because they believe a Nabataean origin would have made the context of South Arabian beliefs irrelevant.
@@jettyharrison4377 Joseph Lumbard, a professor of classical Islam, has stated that the idea is "not only an insult to Muslims but also an insult to Arab Christians who use the name 'Allah' for God.
Hey Paul. This is important. The fallacies of the revisionists is spreading rapidly between people who lack proper educational background and conspiracy theories fans. Could you please make a video commenting on "Inara" foundation and their theories? Thanks
Not only that in the desert and mountain between Maka and Syria you can find some sowra from Quran written by traveller on The stones dated to The Time of Omar (Rady Allah annh) and show no Chang with what we have now
You know a guy will wake up and choose facts when he's got more books in his background than I got dollar bills in my pocket
Lol A Christian missionary accusing the Quran of having not been preserved is like Hitler himself accusing people of anti-Semitism. The hilarious hypocrisy is palpable....
That's just another way of saying "I accept biased secular views on the quran, ather than expert views of scholars who studied"
@@ayhemshaban9745 You don't spend much time on the internet do you?
@@ErikDIto
I do :)
@@ayhemshaban9745 Then I'm surprised you interpreted my comment in this manner.
Oh brother Paul from the speaker's corner.. I remember you now, I saw you doing an epic debate, and was wondering when to see you again. Glad you opened your youtube channel. May Allah increase your iman, ameen.
thanks!
@@BloggingTheology any revordings of those debates, I'm intrigued :)
Is mr. Paul Christian or Muslim i am confused
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He doesn’t seem a Muslim! Perhaps he found the Muslim audience more sustainable!
@@b89976 i think he is neither.Im sure i heard him say something about "when he was a Christian" but he believes in a superior power.From what I've seen from him,he is getting things right Alhamdulillah. May Allah bring him to Islam. Ameen.
Edit:I think I got it wrong.There is a video of him and the title says Debate between a Christian and a Muslim.When the Christian guy was presenting the debate he said,"I am a Christian and ofcourse Paul is a Muslim"And Paul didn't say anything.Subhan Allah.
Dear Sir, please never stop making your videos..You're a source of inspiration to the Ummah..
"It is we who sent down the Quran, and it is we who will guard it from corruption"
"We" who is this "WE"?
إِنَّا نَحۡنُ نَزَّلۡنَا ٱلذِّكۡرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُۥ لَحَٰفِظُونَ
It is us who sent down the reminder, and will be its guardian.
-Surah Al-Hijr, Ayah 9
The ONE you are reading with tashkil, has been made into language.. Original has NO VOWELS?
WHY?
@@chakubanga1 by We, Allah is giving respect to Himself
@@chakubanga1 original? What original? This is the original
@@chakubanga1 there are so many explanations about this "We" please do your own research
Go ask arabian. "Did u worship more than 1 god? They will say no.
Because arabic language had 2 kind of plural
Plural of numbers
And
Plural of respect
I am so grateful to u for pointing to quality reading materials for not just Muslims but also non - Muslims.
as someone who is seeking the truth, his kind of scholarly videos are invaluable.
@Lilia murah bro, what? And what's up with your profile pic?
@Lilia murah This abomination of a human being, is referring to people as “Dalit” who are the lower - caste - people living in India, they are deemed as “untouchables” in India. This “Lilah Murah” is just an Indian waste of space. Please ignore him/her.
@Omar Mahmoud Salama Invaluable means incredibly valuable or ‘valuable beyond estimation’. It is a good thing. If something is invaluable, it is more valuable than if it were described as ‘valuable’. English is a weird language and in this case he was complimenting this video and Paul.
@Omar Mahmoud Salama ha, English is a strange language sometimes
This channel must become famous, share as much as we can guys.
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@Rayrad 696 and i don't believe in you because you are telling me to believe in Jesus as God come on, if you really were a Christian with logical belief in Christianity then you would have tried to explain me as a layman which Christians can never, ever do it. There is no guidance in Christianity, in Islam we have the smallest of detail on how to do things right how to eat, sleep, drink water, how to use toilet, wash yourself, etc so please. I m a Muslim, I'm wondering how you guys will ever be able to convince an atheist about Jesus being God. Please open your heart and learn Islam before it's too late.
@Rayrad 696 yeah I saw you telling Jesus as Prophet. If that's the case in your heart then we are on the same boat. Why do I need to rely on Bible when Quran clearly says Jesus as Prophet too. Bible has been corrupted over time. Jesus is not the last Prophet and it is clearly mentioned in Bible too. As Jesus (Peace be Upon him) mentioned Prophet Muhammad's (Peace be Upon him) coming. I will send you the video link
@Rayrad 696 but how can i believe that bible is totally correct and preserved although there is some context which i believe is only God word but i don't think so it could be preseved very well because it's summarize after Century of Essa pbuh dead ,and also you know the fact from human behavior if i have to give you any msg through some people the exact context of a msg would changed
@Rayrad 696 Well, I'm not reading that. But I will never worship a God that attributes to Himself jealousy, which is something inappropriate for God. and punishes people for their father's deeds (Exodus 20:5).
The Quran is challenging anyone to investigate it’s authenticity. It’s a mission for Muslims and non-Muslims. It’s not about the text only, but the spiritual meanings.
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@@blackdog8771 The irony of you telling us to “read it”. The Quran continuously challenges the reader. But you wouldn’t know since you haven’t read it
@@orwellianyoutube8978 Leave the ignorant. As Allah Almighty has said in the Quran: Most of them will not believe.
I like how you find and present the gems in intellectual discourse. Thank you; much appreciated.
@RD discipline What do you think? Would you give it a read? BTW, it does say that it is for those seeking guidance.
@RD discipline The guidance thing is not a claim. It is the genre of the book; it is about your life after death. The Islamic elevator pitch is that God created a universe running on physical laws and then put man in it, endowed with moral sense. Those who live life morally, will get to enter heavens. Creator can boast; created's humility is a moral virtue. But you're right about Muslims' not having read the book, and perhaps even about them believing what they're told, and that is rather unfortunate, IMHO.
@RD discipline According to my reading of the book, the soul is breathed into the baby in mother's womb around 120th day or so. Upon death, and upon every night during REM sleep, that soul is taken; restored if life is to continue. Even the soul without body may be able to dream; it may dream a nightmare, or dream an ecstatic dream. Rules of this life are different than rules of the next life. Here sex is limited to marriage because our children take forever to grow up; so parental units need incentive to stay together. This life is a test: test of patience for those in trials and tribulations, and test of gratitude for those given abundance. Evil is allowed, for free will to be exercised, but the consequences ensue. Perpetual abode in heaven has been explicitly spelled out in the book, but whether hell is perpetual, God is silent and the silence is subtle.
@RD discipline In the Book. God talks about when another creature is born, around the 4th month of pregnancy. Nightly taking of soul is also in the book. Soul dreaming is also in the book. For instance, the Book orders us not to call the Martyred dead, it insists that they are fed though we may not understand it. As for heavenly rewards and purgatory punishments, the what and why is mentioned but not necessarily the how.
@RD discipline Quran
Well said Sir Paul. "Is the Qur'an reliably transmitted? Well it depends of who you ask"
Ask those who are knowledgeable, the experts, those who are impartial genuine scholars who do justice without fear or favour.
Not Christian missionaries or apologists whose only intention is to deride, ridicule and attack Islam and their views should be completely ignored and disregarded by Muslims.
May God bless you Sir Paul.
There would be no christian making such claims, having to defend themselves, if you didnt come against them with your slanderous words.
@@jesusheals3799 so you admit they lie to defend themselves?
@@ahnaflfc369 that was a dumb straw man. that's what muslim apologists do. most Christians do it out of sheer ignorance and lack of knowledge.
@@jesusheals3799 i do get what you mean Muslims need to be more respectful I acknowledge that.
@@jesusheals3799i agree but the muslims who attack other religions are wrong the quran tells us not to
Thank you for this video! Your research has been kind and fair to a much maligned community of believers. I am an ardent fan of Prophet Muhammad. I am amazed by this man. The Quran, that we got from him, has the most perfect definition of God that can always be verified as truth, even as time passes by and human intellect gets more advanced. Any genius or ordinary person with a humble intellect will agree to the definition of God as defined in the Quran. God is defined as one who is beyond comparison and beyond comprehension. When someone asked Prophet Muhammad's wife, Bibi Aisha, as to how many times the prophet saw Allah, she got angry and said that if any person said that Prophet Muhammad saw Allah, then he is the greatest liar in the world. She proclaimed that as per the Quran nobody can comprehend Allah. This is the truth about the Quran's definition of God. Prophet Muhammad could easily have started a totally new religion, but he didn't. He adopted all the Prophets, all the rituals, way of prayer (Namaz) from Judaism, and also Jesus with virgin birth from Christianity, into Islam. Even Muslims initially prayed facing Jerusalem. Now what is going on here? What kind of a new religion is this which is hell bent on unifying people instead of standing out as a totally separate religious community. It will take many more years to fully understand and grasp at the amazing achievements of Prophet Muhammad. I will recommend all to read Shahi Bukhari's Hadith. Read the accounts of Prophet Muhammad's friends, relatives and wives', specially the accounts of Bibi Aisha, where she states that there never were three consecutive days when the Prophet and she had a good meal! This simple and humble man!
I pray you meet Christian Prince ... You'll wish you'd read all the Qur'an. Just saying
@@nirdmarshal7270 I pray you read Hadith and Quran with an open mind. You will accept Islam.
@@nirdmarshal7270 that punk with clear 107 lies who said paul is in Quran🤣 and hazrat khadija was a Christinan 🤣🤣 and darkness means pennis in quran😔😔😔.... IDIOT you are!!!!!!!!!! With alll ur hate... U never listened any thing paul said.... He brings up all scholars not missionaries.... CP is an aplogetics but dale martin, bart ehrman are scholars . What arw u gonna say to their allegations against bible
I pray that Allah guides you to Islam if you are not Muslim, my friend.
No man is better role model than Jesus Christ, no man is a better example to the world than Jesus. Jesus lived a sinless life, he did not have sex with 9 women in 1 day. Jesus did not have sex with a 9 year old when he was 56, nor did Jesus have sex with women mistresses. Christ's example has remained relevant since 4 BC and it never will be outdated and nobody has lived a more spotless life than Jesus. Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. Nobody gets to our heavenly Father but through His son Jesus Christ.
I'm surprised the not even a single one have mentioned this. We have something called the Idjazah-A living chain of recitation to the Prophet himself PBUH. And it's not just one, thousands and even hundreds of thousands.
It's like Chinese whispers
The only difference is that the message is perfect all the way through.
This makes it more reliable than manuscripts
@@thinkislamcheckmychannel you are literally contradicting yourself.
@@condorianonegdiffsgoku
If you want, you could try to explain how and I'll refute your explanation
@@thinkislamcheckmychannel you just said its like chinese whispers and then say its preserved. How do you know if it is preserved and that it wasnt different before the whispering started?
@@condorianonegdiffsgoku that's the only "difference".
However it's still transmitted verbally.
Love the way you explain the complex language of academics for us lay people, Paul. Many thanks again for another fine production!
The preservation of the Qu'ran: Facts.
The messenger of Allah had 18 writers to write the verses as soon as they were revealed, so he supervised the whole process, as Allah the exalted made him teach mankind, but himself was prevented from being able to read or write.
The full written Qu'ran was stored at our mother (Hafsa) the Wife of the messenger, however the muslims never needed them as virtually nearly everyone memorised the Qu'ran fully.
However After the Messenger's departure, and many of the Messenger's companions departed this life and the rest spread in world, as well as series of non arab nations started to embrace Islam, so muslims were fearful that these millions of people may not pronounce the Qu'ran correctly, so Caliph Uthman formed a committee of the Messenger's companions, and formally produced the first Qu'ran book, using the Qu'ran that is kept at Hafsa's house as well as the committee are full equipped with the full memorization.
And called book (Muss'haf Al-Qu'ran).
And they sent a copy to Iraq, Egypt, Syria and other places, as well as one remained in Medina.
There're still available in the World biggest museums.
Salam Alaikum, Peace to everyone
Salam
from what i know there was no fully written quran until after the death of the prophet peace be upon him. Allah knows best, I'm not certain of this.
@@Mikesco10
The information above is 100% accurate, and known by every scholar of Islam.
Salam Alaikum,
@@Mikesco10 This is actually incorect.
As the brother mentioned above, the Prophet pbuh had various scribes writing for him s.a.w. in his lifetime.
It was just not yet collected in a form a 'book'. Allah knows best.
May Allah guide and bless us all, ameen.
Actually It was Abu Bakr who gave the assignment to Zaid ibn Thabit to assemble the quran in one book format(note that Abu Bakr himself was a Hafiz [had the Quran memorized] and ofcourse Zaid was a Obvious Hafiz) . Because of the magnitude of this assignment Abu Bakr set extremely strict rules. 1st Zaid had to find a every verse of the quran written (so not from his own notes and memory).
2nd Zaid had to find 2 witnesses that heard that verse directly from the profeet PBOH (so they could not have learned it from each other).
The Quran in book form was collected like this.
3rd Abu Bakr had Zaid Review it 3 times, and each time he had to review it with 2 witnesses.
4th Abu Bakr asked Zaid to hand it over (note again that Abu Bakr is a Hafiz, and he memorized the quran in the correct order) and finally he reviewed it himself. Just imagine all the effort.
Afterwards ppl started copying from this book format and no one supervised what they copied, And ppl copied from those copies and so on. This was bound to get problematic in the long term that's why the personal copies got destroy after 6 accurate copies were made of that book format with again strict rules in the time of Uthman and it was again supervised by Zaid, and the copies were made by Abdullah ibn azzubair, said ibn al aas and abdurrahman ibn al harith ibn al Hisham (those 3 were specialized in the Quran + Zaid as supervisor of this committee) those 6 copies got reviewed many times after completion.
All the sahaba (the companions) agreed with the burning of the notes unanimously. Even Ali said afterwards: this happened only with our advies, and we are grateful for this othewise we would have had different version much like the bibles.
@@jigokuuu
You're right in the chain of events.
I've skipped this process, and focused on the Uthman committee as it's the official and best known.
Jazaka Allahu kheir
You're a Gem of a person. I've never been happier on a CZcams suggestion 💚.
Stay blessed, stay on path of truth. 🙏🏻
Thanks for the vlog. I don't think I would ever had the time to read all these research books/ papers myself, thanks to you, individuals like me also have the opportunity to hear and understand some of it. Again thank you very much.
I'm blessed today to come across your channel and meet a gentleman of your kind, people need more gentlemen like you. Have a nice safe day.
Welcome aboard!
@@fedesetrtatio1 1000+ years old San-āa scripts, about 900 scripts in total which contains verses from the holly Quran, every single scripts matches the modern Quran so yeah it's been preserved perfectly as Allah promised. Have a nice day.
@@fedesetrtatio1 and what did your all-wise all-knowing elders say aside from baseless accusations?
@@fedesetrtatio1 yeah you really did lol...go put your ego under a rock and start reading actual books instead of listening to your priests audiobooks.
@@fedesetrtatio1 just see the video again you Christian Missionary!!
Hats off to this wise and learned man. Thank you for your great work, Sir. My heart and mind yearned for something like what you are doing on your channel. Best regards from your russian subscriber.
I appreciate that!
Angelika Neuwirth is spot on here. Jay Smith has attempted these revionist theories in his apologetic career and debates for a long time now. But it has been pointed out to Jay many times, in his famous debate with Shabir Ally for example, that this thing that Patricia Crone and Michael Cook were coming with is all nonsense. With their radical revionist theories on the origins of Islam. Many orientalist scholars in the field have already criticized these views. Like William Montgomery Watt, F.E. Peters, Norman Daniel and so on. Patricia Crone and Michael Cook then later even came out and revised their views. Great video Paul, keep it up 👍🏼
And because they have been criticized you disregard it? Your blindness is patently obvious. Weren't Muhammed or 'the authors of the koran' REVISIONISTS?
but i will answer my question: Yes he/they were. Their thought was RADICALLY DIFFERENT coming 600 years after the Bible. Most everything written in that book is starkly different to the histories and science it pretends to cover. And yet you, Paul the video guy, and all other somewhat 'innocent' muslims glorify the Koran for 'SETTING STRAIGHT' that which has been corrupted. AMAZING!
You seem to be or write like quite an intellectual in these few words you have put up.
Why this double standard?
Why haven't you rejected the Koran based on its revisionist writings?
Why haven't you properly reviewed the koran for inconsistencies (which abound far too much)?
Why haven't you therefore appealed to scholars who have opposing views on this revisionist writing known as the Koran?
However, isn't that the 'nature of the beast' one writes this and someone else opposes it? What thought ever goes unopposed? Is that reason to not on your own delve deeply into them? Don't you fear the implications?
Weren't the ideas of great thinkers opposed in the past and some even killed or tortured for it such as the prophets of the old testament?
Wasn't the same Crone threatened for her academic research?
How can you as a people be so smart on the one and yet still simplistic when it comes to truth and its implications to your religion and consequently your souls?
Someone must be wrong at the end of the day. Yahweh of the Bible is not Allah of the Koran. There is no congruency.
Shabir Ally says much much much and says significantly little little little. Did he answer the claims directly via his own investigation or did he just use his oft mentioned phrase that scholars have debunked those claims. Thereof providing NO EVIDENCE to directly counter the ACTUAL claims of these 'revisionists'.
However, Jay Smith and others of current times are providing evidence (considered strong or not) against the revisionist book known as the koran and you reject their thoughts still. They are not just saying the Koran has been changed and is also not what you think it is but are additionally providing evidence of such and you still reject them. Based on 'scholars'.
Throwing out the 'baby with the bathwater' is leaving you Muslims in a very terrible situation. Because you keep turning a blind eye and heart to these realities you never properly search them out. It leaves you defenseless in these areas and able only to begin chanting the mantra of perfect preservation. It is reckless thinking that by not personally dealing with the dragon in the room that it is not still going to eat you alive and as many as are in the muslim house.
It grieves me the level of intellectual dishonesty that I come across here. And i should also say the level of emotional dishonesty.
You defend the REVISIONIST koran using scholars yet reject the REVISIONIST writings on the koran based on scholars
But as someone basically said:
"A statement without support merits denial without reason"
the Koran being without historical and scientific support merits everyone to deny it without any reason.
Since muslims have practiced the formerly described anti-logic against others they should not require persons to practice logic now so conveniently. But may their intellectual dishonesty neither thrive nor remain in the world of truth and fact.
@@teachmetheway7081 If you bring someone who can show us evidence please for gods sake let it not be Jay Smith, I have been watching his videos and debates from the early 20. Not a single time have I seen him come with something logical. He tried very hard in many debates to
take out things out of context and tried to throw it on our faces. Yet every time he did that we educated him in his own game. I mean for someone with a Phd in theology and 30 years of so called comparative religion and bible studies he is very lame. He couldn't even win an argument in a bible debate with shabir Ali. Yet he tries to educate us on our own islamic theology?? Now he got that side kick of him Al-Fadi who nods along with him every time and tries to come across like scholar by dressing like a arabi in the Americas yet ayoung guy in his 20s gave him a taste of his own medicine and shut him up. We even educated Jay Smith in speakers corner in London by a layman when it came to his claims of different verses / standardization of the Quran. We don't need Islamic scholars to educate these characters or these apologetics / evangelists.
@@TH3-ON3 blah blah.people can understand.u are still in deniel mode
@Jack Wiliam Probably unnecessarily scared of being killed for my belief in Jesus by muslims/muslim sympathizers. But not scared of Islam as a belief system. yep i say derogatory things about islam because they added up a bit too quickly against this religion. I thought probably hinduism was more suspect re: beliefs but Islam honestly supersedes it by one book, one man and one prophecy.
If you have read some of my comments i need not repeat those three.
I should even not need to repeat the 1 = 3 aspect either.
However, "I think you need to lower your ego and see the truth. It is not my soul that will cry on judgement day it will be yours, don't support the weird doctrine of a man made church." needs to be answered.
Ego is thinking that you alone have the truth and are not willing to hear and listen to others
Ego is saying that Christians believe a lie while muslims believe in counter factual accounts of history (even in the face of extra-biblical history saying as much)
Re: Crying on judgement day
it is possible i may be crying on judgement day. But i don't intend to be crying because I believed in obvious lies. These things of doctrine may be a lie. God is who he is. He reveals what he wants and does what he wants.
However, there are facts that should never be disputed. Any religion that says that certain facts did not occur must be a religion built on lies.
As to man-made, i am telling you solidly that yours is man-made. you think it is of God Almighty sent down from above only because that has been the mantra you were taught from the first till now. Had you been taught the things i read about you would be less egotistical about your religion.
I don't think that my belief is not man-made. In fact I AM PROUD OF THAT. But to lie to myself that it came from God directly like the commandments unto moses is doing my soul a terrible disservice. Moreover, to tell others that your religion is the truth given these things and others is misleading. So therefore, i can guarantee you that on judgement day those teachers of the 'laws of God' who willfully taught others lies will be crying.
Jesus is stated as saying that false prophets and false christs will come.
he said also that many will come in that day saying Lord Lord. He will say depart from me because you did not show charity to the least of his brethren. Ask yourself the question gentle Jack, are you one of the 'brethren' of Christ? Do you honor him as your brother or as just a prophet?
If the latter is the case it means that his admonition automatically applies to you is the case.
The concept of going to hell because of stupidity is horrible but it is very possible.
Death will come for sure for us all. Judgment day will/will not come according to some. But the best investment of your soul is in Jesus. Muhammed had no answer for where he would end up. He couldn't even speak with certainty even in light of him 'spending time with God'. You are going to place all your chips on that number. It doesn't seem sensible to be honest.
Jesus was for some reason pretty confident in himself according to scripture. He alone he said was the way the truth and the life: no man would come to the Father except by him. But you reject the certainty he provides and lean on the balance of your good deeds versus your bad deeds.
But it is this very thing that will judge you. As I said before, telling him in that day Lord Lord means nothing if you didn't do good to his brethren - whoever you think they really are.
I HOPE THIS WAS ENOUGH OF A RANT FOR YOU!!
@Jack Wiliam on your media comment. Question: when do we ever believe in media's honesty? Is it only when they are investigating others?
I hope you are not going to say that muslims do nothing to provoke anger in the world. Or that it is because of provocation from western powers?
But if even one of your so called scholars can agree that islam was spread by the sword which i and many others agree with why would you deny this? why would you deny this and make it seems as if you are the victims in the whole charade?
You've been blessed with knowledge and very good research methods.Don't stop what you doing whatever the topic you choose.I love how unbiased your channel is.
I would also like to convey my appreciation, for all the information and benefits that you share with the people.
Thank you Paul for bringing up this topic
I like when you explain it in "simple english" from those professors writings in that book..
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I am blessed today to come across your videos
You have the gift of a great teacher, you present scholarly results in an accessible and objective manner, thanks for the effort.
Finally CZcams recommend something that is relevant to what I like. Gave you a subscription, thank you for breaking down the book in laymen terms
Welcome aboard!
Do u knw Sheikh Uthman ibn Fārooq, Paul? I bet u'll get along with him really well.
Sheikh uthman...woww I'm a huge fan of him...he's a genius and a huge intellectual
Yes ,he is
Yes, Christians usually quote Patricia Crone in their attempts to discredit the Quran. Thank you Paul.
Your channel is very interesting and full of intellectual treasures!
Glad you like them!
Thanks for sharing these scholarly readings, which actually solidifies our view of the Quran as a revealed Book.
I wish you were my teacher. Such approachable and humble manner you have.
Thank God, your channel pop up in my recommendations
Welcome!
Wish you could mention the Quran fragment found in the University of Birmingham which was dated back to either the life of the Prophet Mohammed or certainly to his companions.
صلى الله عليه وسلم/peace and blessings be upon him
Here's a very easy to follow Statistical Analysis on the Birmingham Manuscript and also comparing it to the Sanaa Manuscript:
www.researchgate.net/publication/328215240_STATISTICAL_ANALYSIS_OF_THE_BIRMINGHAM_QURAN_FOLIOS_AND_COMPARISON_WITH_THE_SANAA_MANUSCRIPTS
@@user-mi5el9dy6e Thank you for this. Excellent find
@@user-mi5el9dy6e Very interesting. This seems like a great read. I appreciate the source, thank you.
@@Silence4725 @ArifZaman You're most welcome friends. I added this source to the Wikipedia article on Qur'anic preservation because it stated that the text "largely conforms" but I think the statistics show that it "entirely" conforms with the current text.
I don't know if any of you realize but this is actually empricial proof for the verse :
We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).
إِنَّا نَحْنُ نَزَّلْنَا الذِّكْرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُ لَحَافِظُون
[Surat Al Hijr: Verse 9]
Thank you for sharing with us. May God always bless you brother. Love from
Pakistan.
Gems, pearls and nuggets of knowledge yet again from Paul the Muslim Englishman
Stop trolling, and stop being jealous
Paul has not proclaimed anything, but you have jealous christian trolls that come on his channel and leave snarky comments
@@Ace0555 stick with playing your video games
@King khan Great khan Yes Paul is a Muslim, you really did not know?
@King khan Great khan clever you
Thank you for this information. I wish you all happiness in the world for your truthfulness.
May Allah reward you with goodness.
Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth stands out clear from falsehood.
Yes the quran story of adam made from clay placed on this earth by god, is not true, if taken literally, it didnt happen, its a myth. Its a ridiculous story anyway but evolution has given us a true understanding of human history.
Usually when I know a myth to be ridiculous I’d just move on and not waste any time on the topic. Why are you here if you’re so convinced it’s a ridiculous theory? Live your blank, meaningless, Godless life without bothering those of us who do believe in Allah and His prophets.
@scoop rammer
@@blackdog8771 your comment reflect it's the other way around plus a bigoted view of muslims. But no worries, we understand.
@@blackdog8771 more than 1 billion disagree for sure but we respect your oppinion.
"Innaa Nahnu Nazzalna Zzikra Wa Innaa Lahu Lahafizuun" - Surah Al Hijr verse 9
Cannot wait for your next video 🙌
up in 30 minutes..
Good Morning Paul, love your review ... Just small input on Camera Focus and Lighting. You need to adjust Camera Focus to your face (not book shellf) and change / add Vlog lighting ($15-20 only, rechargable)... Keep up your good review 👍😎👍
Love and Respect from occupied Kashmir
Thank CZcams Paul, AS always full of knowledge and proves from realable sources..
Thank CZcams, keep up the good work.
Assalam u Alaikum brother Paul I just wanna say I hope you realize how important and crucial the work you are doing is, I hope you realize that Allah has chosen you to spread his message. It could have been anyone but Allah saw something in you I always make dua for you. You are our big asset.
keep doing the great work.
May Allah be pleased with you, Ameen.
Khalifa Osman was assassinated in 656 while reading Quran that Quran with blood marks is still in existence in a museum in Damascus Syria. Prophet passed away in 632 The few pages of Quran recently found in a museum in Birmingham England have been carbon dated 600 -680. The wording is exactly the same as in Quran being used today.
DAMN I DIDNT KNOW THAT THX FOR SHARING
Nice video bro! I like it when you say "This is a scholarly way to say crap" :) I think we should have a "scholarly dictionary"!
Good idea!
Very thought provoking info. Thank you for a scholarly presentation.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Paul. Really love your videos and thoughts. I was wondering how did you become interested in reading about the religions and viewing them from a historical perspective. Once again many thanks.
Very informative video mashaAllah. AlhamdullAllah for everything.
Thanks to Paul for simplify the terminology of scholar
Great video. I appreciate it a lot and appreciate their honesty.
Approaching the Quran by Dr shazad saleem is a very informative information on muslims.
Thank you, that was most helpful. Do scholars have preferences concerning translations?
Congratulations for your commitment in searching and spreading the truth in this video
academic explanation but you make it easy for us to understand, you are a good teacher thank you 🙏🙏.
Allah made Quran easy to memorized
“(This is) a Book which We have sent down to you, full of blessings, that they may ponder over its Ayat, and that men of understanding may remember.” Surah Saad (38:29),
“So We have made this (the Qur’an) easy in your own tongue, only that you may give glad tidings to those who have Taqwa and warn with it the most quarrelsome people.” Surah Maryam (19:97)
My son memorized 30 Surah, and he is 6 arabic isn't his mother language hope he can memorized all Surah one day. And many other children memorized whole Quran on a very young age.
Masya Allah.
Thats the miracle of the Quran. The oral poetic tradition got the Message memorized and replicated very quick. The text was eventually supplemental to preserve the Quran
Dear Brother Paul..your topics is deep and serious concludes the very doubt of authenticity of Book of revelation from Allah.. Thanks for presenting this knowledge and may Allah gives guidance to us all..Ameen
May allah grant you good health and long life.... your contributions are really worth and appreciated.
Great insight paul, thanks for sharing this !
Glad it was helpful!
Assalaamu Alaikum Paul and thank you once again. Not only do you provide excellent content but your delivery is so eloquent.
Regardless of any religious affiliations you may or may not have your truly doing the work of Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta’ala
There are many christians who believe that jesus (pbuh) was only a human
It's always good to have people like you
Thank you very much for your high quality presentation Peter...🙏👍
By the way, could you presenting us about Cleanliness in Islamic, Judeo-christian concepts and their application present and historical accounts
Thank you so much indeed for this enlightening intellectual evidence based talk .
Hey assalamualaikum....keep up with the good work❤️❤️
Thank you so much 😊
What a gem. Love your observations...
I can't believe I found this channel so late
Hi Paul, may I recommend going over to the EFdawah yt channel and joining them on one their streams, as you seem to share a lot of similar ideas. I'm sure they'll love having you.
Mustafa Al-Azami has brilliant books on Qur'anic and Hadith reliability/preservation.
Mushaf.......... definitely .
Hadith........... definitely not .
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Both have been genuinely preserved.
Unless you're an expert on علم الحديث then I'd like to see your research & findings.
Otherwise, no need to answer this comment.
TY.
I love these 13 minutes videos were Br. Paul pinpoints one point and drives it home!
Great!
To me, Bro. Paul is 'the friendly bridge' between the general non-muslim as well as muslim public and the western honest academics/tesearches in the field...
Keep up the good work, Paul! May Allah guide you...
Has the Bible been reliably preserved? If we compare the antique manuscripts of the old and new testament, with the modern Bible. You'll find a lot of contradictions and no consistency. Some stories in the modern Bible, are even missing in the antique Biblical manuscripts. The Quran doesn't have many discrepancies, in this regard.
The Quran is perfectly preserved as it was preserved orally with mutawatir chains.
The bible is totally unreliable: no originals, no known authors, no clear criteria as to what decides whether something is scripture or not, no objective criteria for what the final Canon should be
That is because uthman burnt all the old manuscripts so there's actually nothing to compare to this is common sense
@@adjoa-anima
No, the Quran was memorized by many.
@@monoth4555 the many are dead and gone how do we know uthman included everything some died in war and uthman did burn some manuscripts we can't just assume what uthman wrote is the entire narrative and besides there is no earlier manuscript to compare it to so you have to keep pushing the lie that it perfectly preserved.
@@adjoa-anima
Did you not listen to the video, did you not read what scholars have to say. You listen to liars and don't care about the truth. Can you respond with even one small verse that is added like we find with the bible. If you can I will accept Quran is not preserved. If not and you will not please confirm none added. Can we say same for New Testament??? Please answer.
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This video is a gem 💎
Thank you sir
Glad it was helpful!
As usual, a very important video, well done Paul!
Many thanks!
Surah Taha, Verse 4:
تَنزِيلًا مِّمَّنْ خَلَقَ الْأَرْضَ وَالسَّمَاوَاتِ الْعُلَى
A Revelation from Him Who created the earth and the high heavens.
Surah Al-Hijr, Verse 9:
إِنَّا نَحْنُ نَزَّلْنَا الذِّكْرَ وَإِنَّا لَهُ لَحَافِظُونَ
Surely We have revealed the Reminder (Quraan) and We will most surely be its guardian.
Is the owner of the channel a Muslim?
This is a scholarly way of saying “ it’s crap” 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks Paul for your layman’s translation of Neuwirth !
Honest and neutral intellectuals always find that the Quran is preserved. But those with an agenda dispute this .... but that’s exactly what they are ... those with an agenda. Oh well - if someone simply wants to argue and clearly don’t have any interest in the truth - what can one say?
Honest and neutral intellectuals find that the Quran is well preserved. None will sign a statement that it is well preserved enough to scientifically claim it is the word of God. Nobody doubts a significant amount of effort was put into preserving the Quran by believers, but for a direct word of God it would need to be 100% and more and more scientists are acknowledging that there is evidence of human elements in the transmission at all levels.
Close scrutiny will show that Islam is just another great religion, but that claims of owning the direct word of God cannot be proven.
@@ohana_is_family they can be...Qur'an has got many miracles. Historical, mathematical, scientific,Iinguistic and literal miracles. Also not just that Qur'an also contains prophecies....what else u need for the proof that it is from Allah almighty?
@@tahanafis4970 That's belief rather than fact. It's like arguing for or against resurrection. You either believe it or you don't. But there is no evidence. Just rhetoric and playing on what people want to hear.
@@nightwatch6106 nope it is not. You have never checked those miracles...I will soon let you know about a prophecy made in Qur'am
@@tahanafis4970 Sorry, but I think those are all crap. It is always possible to come up with some narrative in hindsight.
Asalamu alaikum ramatulla wa barrakatu salaam paul can you make a video of Paul's contradictory stories on his way to damascus and apostle paul meaning of guile what did he mean by it?
Could you make a video about "ahrouf", different 'readings' of the Qur'an, PLZ?! From the scholarly pov, of course.🙏
Thank you so much for valuable information as always. God bless
You are so welcome
Brilliant work as always Paul. Jummah Mubarak
Many thanks
Happy to see your rational authentic approach in sharing Islam
Thanks for this update about cor an
Qu'ran
15:9
Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian.
Excellent bro Paul keep up the good work. 🙏🏽
Much appreciated
I miss Coventry
The oldest Quran which can be found in the Birmingham museum, which dates to the time of the companions using carbon dating.
It contains 3 Suras: Taha طه، Maryam مرسم، al kahaf الكهف.
It is letter for letter the same as today's quran
Hello sir
Have you looked in to the works of Professor Javed Ahmed ghamdi
but his work is in Urdu, but one of his students have translated his work in English Dr shazad Saleem on Islam it’s mind blowing work.
You doing great work to misconceptions on Islam and Christianity.
Thank you
The Muslim claim is not that the Quran has been ‘reliably” preserved; their claim is that it has been “perfectly” preserved.
Little difference. But remember:
“The Quran was revealed in seven modes. Each verse among them has an outward and an inward, and each limit has a horizon.”
Sharḥ Mushkil al-Āthār 3095
@@BloggingTheology Whatever that is supposed to mean.
@@banzakidimye348 Christian Apologist alert!
And they are right
Sadeghi and Bergmann defines the Uthmanic text type as agreeing with the text of the 1924 Cairo Edition of the Quran, a tradition that “reportedly began with the codices ʿUthmān disseminated as the ancestors of all the manuscripts in the textual tradition”. *These codices all agree on: 1. the order of the surahs; 2. the order of the verses within each surah; and 3. the content of these verses in terms of individual words* (Sadeghi and Bergmann 2010: 347).
@@Logia1978 “the codices Uthman disseminated” .... Are there any existing copies of these codices?
Shall we start calling you Imam Paul???????
Perhaps we should ask David Wood who seems to spend more time attacking Muslims and Islam than defending his own faith.
The bible was written by many authors many whom arent even known.
Moses wrote the Torah and it it contains stories about what occurred after he died, obviously he didn't write the Torah.
Nobody knows who wrote the Gospels, some of Paul's writings are not by Paul to if you listen to Bart Erhman.
The interesting thing about the Qur'an is the poetic form it is written in which is probably why there are people who have memorised much of it or indeed some have memorised it all.
Christian missionaries also liked to point out how much violence is in the Qur'an totally oblivious to how much is in the Bible.
Great job Paul, you are getting closer through Hidayah. Alhamdulillah
Subhanallah, it is said in QS 15:9
Sir I m not english , I can understand sample english speaking,
I used dic to understand that
God in the Quran promises clearly to protect the Quran from corruption. Indeed, God has protected the Quran. The Quran has remained the same.The quran is the final book and it can never be changed because God says ""We have without doubt, send down the message; and We will assuredly guard it(from corruption)." The Holy Qur'an, Chapter 15, Verse 9. All the verses that were revealed to prophet Mohammad by angel Gabriel are included in the Quran that is available today. The Quran was revealed in Arabic language and Muslims consider only the Arabic Quran to be the Word of God and any translation of the Quran to other languages are mere translations of the Quran to people who do not understand Arabic language because translations are authored by ordinary human beings whereas the Arabic Quran is authored by God. Therefore, those translations are not considered by Muslim as a Word of God or holy scriptures. The 5 daily prayers of Muslims are in Arabic (most of what is said by Muslims during a prayer consist of reciting verses from the Quran). However, Muslims are not required to be able to speak Arabic, other than learning to utter few sentences in Arabic that are part of regular prayers.
Using the quran to back itself is not reliable, its self serving, it not going to say we've made all this up
@@applegreen4118 and how do you know that?
@@applegreen4118 is there a better religion than Islam?
I like what the scholar Norman Brown wrote about the book by Crone and Cook:
“in Apocalypse and/or Metamorphosis (1991) that Hagarism, "illustrates in an ominous way the politics of Orientalism", and citing Grabar's review, added that, "The Western tradition of urbane *condescension has degenerated into aggressive, unscrupulous even, calumny.”*
Indeed most of the early and current orientalists seem to be dismissive of anything that has to do with Islam and Muslim civilization. They follow in the footsteps of those Christians from the time of Charlemagne who saw the Muslims as enemies and therefore posed an existential threat to christiandom. They resorted to demonization, lies and character assassination of the prophet Muhammad. Decade after decade century after another they have produced literature full of hateful and condescending publications. It is still going on today though some are realizing the futility of such efforts especially during this time of kumbaya and live and let live. There are also decent Muslim scholars who are willing and capable of challenging egregious and false claims.
Everyone should welcome good scholarship but we must disregard and dismiss the garbage spewed by John wansbrough and his ilk. They pretend to write scholarly books but their assumptions get in the way of writing decent literature.
Sometimes i want to exchange conversations but my knowledge about my own religion is below common people. so, the only thing i can do is say thanks for sharing knowledge about islam from western perspective..
Wow! My only confusion on the above subject has been clarified ! Thank you sir.. lord of lords the almighty ‘ALLAH’!
@@jettyharrison4377sorry I meant to say lord of the worlds not lords ofcourse! Indeed ‘It is a revelation from the lord of the worlds, and if Muhammed had made up about us some false sayings we would have seized him from the right hand;then we would have cut from him the aeorta. And there is no one of you who could prevent us from him. And indeed the Quran is a reminder for the righteous. And indeed we know that among you are deniers and indeed it will be a cause of regret upon the disbelievers. And indeed, it is the truth of certainty. So exalt the name of your lord , the most great , the lord of the worlds the almighty ‘ALLAH’. Surah 69- Al-Haqqa ( the inevitable reality) . So basically I’m just trying to re-iterate by saying Allah is the lord of the worlds and not just mere lords of this Earth my dear jetty!
@@jettyharrison4377 also as a proud Muslim I must tell you that I have the utmost respect for ISA(Alaihis Salaam) may peace be upon him AKA YESHUA/JESUS . He is also one of our prophets and he is mentioned as the messiah(Al-Masih) in the holy Quran ! So I love ISA(Alaihis Salaam) much more than you I believe! Thanks brother and remember we love our prophet Jesus and we love you too :)
@@jettyharrison4377 The Quran itself forbids moon worship in Quran 41:37 [5]Among His signs are the day and the night, the sun and the moon. Do not prostrate to the sun or the moon, but prostrate to Allah, Who created them ˹all˺, if you ˹truly˺ worship Him ˹alone
Do not prostrate to the sun or to the moon, but prostrate to Allah, who created them.
@@jettyharrison4377 The idea was first proposed by archeologist Hugo Winckler in 1901. It was widely propagated in the United States in the 1990s, first via the publication of Robert Morey.More recent scholars have rejected this view, partly because it is speculation but also because they believe a Nabataean origin would have made the context of South Arabian beliefs irrelevant.
@@jettyharrison4377 Joseph Lumbard, a professor of classical Islam, has stated that the idea is "not only an insult to Muslims but also an insult to Arab Christians who use the name 'Allah' for God.
You need to make another video.
Titled: How to decipher and decode academic text into normal English?😀😀😀.
Love your videos.
LOLOL
He is very good at that... isn't he👍
@@BloggingTheology The demand is there.
Sincere with his work, appreciation.
well done paul
A very informative presentation
thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Hey Paul. This is important. The fallacies of the revisionists is spreading rapidly between people who lack proper educational background and conspiracy theories fans. Could you please make a video commenting on "Inara" foundation and their theories? Thanks
among numerous heavy words, i can retale to one : "it's (the allegation/ assumption) crap". 😁
just cry
Not only that in the desert and mountain between Maka and Syria you can find some sowra from Quran written by traveller on The stones dated to The Time of Omar (Rady Allah annh) and show no Chang with what we have now
thanks for your work Paul.
Thanks for listening