The Truth About the Quran | Harvard Professor Shady Nasser
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- Harvard Professor of Islamic Studies Shady Nasser answers 10 questions about the Quran and its history.
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:11 0. Do Academics Care About Proving Divine Authorship?
00:06:12 1. Did Muhammad Have/Intend to Have a Physical Quran?
00:11:55 2. Can It Be Confirmed that Today’s Quran was Recited by Muhammad?
00:18:11 3. Can it Be Verified that the First Physical Quran is Identical to Today’s Quran?
00:20:37 4. Can it Be Proven that the Quran Was Accurately Compiled?
00:30:26 5. Was the Quran Invented by Others?
00:36:39 6. Is the Quran Miraculously Unique?
00:40:46 7. Is the Quran Objectively Inimitable?
00:46:13 8. Is the Quran Clear?
00:51:00 9.1 Is the Quran Linguistically Flawless?
00:57:50 9.2 Is the Content Flawless?
01:10:50 10. Who wrote the Quran?
Short Answers:
0. No.
1. Difficult to Say
2. No.
3. Not entirely, but close.
4. No.
5. Difficult to say.
6. No.
7. No.
8. Partially yes, partially no.
9.1. No.
9.2 Hard to say.
10. Depends on what you believe.
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Thanks to Dr. Shady Nasser for this fantastic discussion. I hope to talk to him again. I hope everyone enjoys this and can benefit from it.
The short answers are in the description, the time stamps are here for your convenience:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:11 0. Do Academics Care About Proving Divine Authorship?
00:06:12 1. Did Muhammad Have/Intend to Have a Physical Quran?
00:11:55 2. Can It Be Confirmed that Today’s Quran was Recited by Muhammad?
00:18:11 3. Can it Be Verified that the First Physical Quran is Identical to Today’s Quran?
00:20:37 4. Can it Be Proven that the Quran Was Accurately Compiled?
00:30:26 5. Was the Quran Invented by Others?
00:36:39 6. Is the Quran Miraculously Unique?
00:40:46 7. Is the Quran Objectively Inimitable?
00:46:13 8. Is the Quran Clear?
00:51:00 9.1 Is the Quran Linguistically Flawless?
00:57:50 9.2 Is the Content Flawless?
01:10:50 10. Who wrote the Quran?
Thanks for the time stamps and short answers in the description. Very helpful.
Why not Dr.Zakir Naik.We want to see you with Dr. Zakir Naik.
So 95% of Muslims do not believe that the Quran is the DIRECT word of God???? This is an absolutely false statement! And you know that yourself, Ridvan! The others here know that too! But this shows how much idea your Harvard professor has about Islam!
@@khattab3910 if the 95%figure is true then 95% of muslims are cleverer than i thought.
Of course it is man made probably written 100 years after the death of mohamhead( if he existed).
Please bring Pakistan born Canadian columnist and writer TAREK FATEH in your show....
I was going to accept islam.thanks for saving me.
What is there to " accept "? Just a radical belief system stuck in the 7th century morals of a man called mohammed
Why were you even considering that ridiculous thought?? Read the New Testament
Do you think such childish taqiyyah can brighten the image of izlam? #no way
Nobody actually gives a sh't even if your cmt is sincere.
You're too smart for Islam.
Bro... Just Research what the Founder of islam Actually DID, & Still try to tell me that he was a Man of GOD...
No matter How they try to spin it, mohammad was a Slave Trader, Caravan Robber, Adoption Abolisher, Fly Dunking, Camel Juicing, Paedoe Rapist, Murderer, who Married his Sons wife.
These aren't just random insults. ALL of these actions can be found from either the koran or SAHIH Hadiths!
It is amazing the calm clarity and knowledge of this man. The anger the malice and violence of most Islamic apologists is diametrically opposed to this. This is the difference between those who seek the truth and those who desperately try to hide it. Thanks.
C+ for effort
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Yeah sure both of them forgot that the prophet couldn't read or write so how could he write the book lol
@@philipscorn9006 Another Farid fanboy, copy and pasting his links for him instead of using your own brain to challenge Shady Nasser…
@@kyliereed200 What's wrong with pasting links if they're valid? My target is for the sincere people. At least I have convinced some of Apus' followers about his dishonesty.
Thanks to Dr Shady Nasser for answering such difficult questions honestly. Please be safe.
Wake up habub
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@@mohdsadiq1928 these are not lies brother.
Great conversation! Fighting Islam with its own sources and history is the best way forward, fighting lies by simply speaking the truth.
Archeology denies Islam time and time again
@Jack Smith oh no a smith who is Muslim and I thought we were all intelligent.
Source I just bloody told you archeology.
Proves that the moon god for example, is the most important, and most worshipped god in all of Arabia . Thousands of artifacts have been discovered from Syria, where the original Arabs came from in tribes. To the banks of the Nile, rings bracelets plates cups tools , all with the crescent moon engraved into them. Even a copper calf.
So proving that Ishmael had nothing to do with the original Arabs, and the greatest god of Arabia was the moongod. This proving "the god" (translated) al-lia and his three daughters allat manat and al-uzza were the moongod and his daughters.
Have been fighting for the past 1400 yrs and converting to islam amazed by its truth sweetness morality no stealing of others land no robbing of any kind of others wealth no spreading lies to attack small weak countries like cowards
@@sultanahamed2484 you have been reading the wrong book that's not the koran mate. Islam been built on massacre rape, racism. And land grabbing.
@@sultanahamed2484
The Quran says,
And if he (Muhammad SAW) had forged a false saying concerning Us (Allah), We surely should have seized him by his right hand (or with power and might), And then certainly should have cut off his life artery (Aorta), (Quran 69:44-46, Muhsin Khan)
Sometime after Muhammad ate poisoned meat and was dying he exclaimed,
….Narrated ‘Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, “O ‘Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.” (Sahih Bukhari 5:59:713)
Sadly most Muslims will hate Prof. Nasser for speaking about the Quran this way. Today's Muslim apologists portray the Quran as a flawless product when it is clear from academia that it is not. At least Muslim scholars in the past were humble enough to admit that they did the best they could to compile the 'word of God'.
Well how can you believe him, he doesn't even have a beard
@@bathombre9739 ....so, for you the beard give you knowledge? ...
I do not believe in you for your poor comment.
@@luissalazar6960 i THINK HE WAS BEING IRONIC!
I hope so
Every religion is depending upon
belief, not reality.
If they question about reality religion will
crumble.
So don't try to dig for reality in religion.
Religion is not science.
I really hope this interview will not endanger Dr. Nasser in any way. Such are the days we live in, that one has to make a comment like this.
I'm thankful he hasn't been intimidated by the religion of peace.
He is a professor and had a job to do he doesn't care if they get rid of him later he doesn't care he just want to contribute to the facts of the world period.. honest people can't be intimidated.. you can kill the body but not the soul 😂😂😂😂
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Thought the same it takes courage to speak the way he spoke in this interview. In previous interviews I've seen he's much more reticent.
Many qualified historians that have discovered damaging information against Islam face threats from those who do not wish to hear it.
This is how we learn. This is the kind of discourse the whole world needs. What a pleasure to watch and listen.
Learn what??? Bunch of nonsense.
Three cheers to professor Shady Nasser. *You are truly an academic* and that is how a true academic presents to his/her own students, grounding them on *methodology* [or 'scientific' approach] not creating blind believers. Your personal beliefs are *irrelevant* but methodology. And these rules applies to all religions, faiths and beliefs. Enjoyed every second of it, brings back memories of my wonderful teachers of my college.
Edit: If anyone doing undergrad studies in humanities this is the way to approach your subject matter. Explain your terminology, set back and move out of your box, ask questions and counter questions, look for or bring primary sources to prove your claims. This a wonderful teacher / student conversation in academic level. Do not follow what your ancestors told you or your clan follows. Yes, apologists having PhDs do so, but not true academics as they guide you for your own conclusions wit myriad of counter questions forcing you to find answers. And this is no exception to Christians, Bible, Hindus, Buddhists or anyone else. Loved it!!!
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@@philipscorn9006
Where is the debate between Nasser and Farid,in your link?
Why are you lying??
@@kingkamaro9442 No one said it was a debate. Other comments indicate that it is a criticism of Dr. Shady Nasser that Farid rushed out before this video was published.
@@markhorton3994
Then ,why did Philips name it Farid vs Nasser,or what is the point to name it like that,if this wasn't a debate???
@@kingkamaro9442 Because it is Farid attacking Dr Nasser.
It includes the usual Muslim lack of context.
It also to Farid's credit contains researched and properly referenced criticism.
However Farid does accidently point out a serious weakness of the Arabic language. He shows three Arabic words with distinct meanings that differ only by two tiny marks. His claim is that Dr. Nasser got the wrong one. Those marks could easily be flyspecks or drops from a pre-ballpoint pen. The meaning of an entire passage could be changed by an inadvertent speck.
Languages based on the Greek, Latin or Cyrillic alphabet have weaknesses but not that one. An undotted i is still an i.
It was funny at the end of the interview, I could tell AP was being polite and not say his trademark phrase, "And stay away from Islam!"
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@@philipscorn9006 Farid the "street corner drug dealer part time IsLaM aPoLoGiST" is irrelevant. The time of dealing with the poor men apologists is over. Yes, these Farida and Hijabs are often great comedy and when I want to study how to be a con man they are outstanding sources in ad hominem fallacies, dunning Kruger & radicalism...but here on this channel not only Apostate Prophet but the community in general has moved on to actual scholars and individuals that actually want a reasonable, intelligent conversation.
@@philipscorn9006 look at the panic in your behaviour, spamming the same link and text in every comment. This is very telling...
It's so cool seeing academics like him and Dr Joshua Bowen be questioned on certain things here.
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Agreed, though I feel bad for Nasser because so few can compare to the suavity of Bowen 😝
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Yes, this is excellent. Many non-Muslims and/or ex-Muslims will read academic works by such scholars, however, I found that basically no Muslim makes an effort to ever do so. Therefore, a video like this (if they can sit through it!) can be very informative for them, as well as others interested in such topics.
One of the best Muslim ~ at lease, not in killer mode.. and as a human
5:20 "....and then he started to loose his creativity." = Waraqa Ibn Nawfal, Mo's "inspiration", died!
I was looking for your comment lol .
* "ran out of things to make up"
It's because he could not get out all those guests from his house untill God send surah to adress that problem. So many dishes to wash
Exactly.
I love this academic interview AP. This is exactly how things go with my interviews in Judaism and Christianity. I hope a trend develops allowing more people to have critical discussions on this topic more often.
It was a great interview Derek
@Derek. What is your position on Jesus Christ? Was he historical or fictional? I want you to be consistent because I came across one of your videos with the title of 'how Romans invented Christianity'. I can't remember the title clearly but it is related to this title I have just written above. Also, what are your reasons for leaving Christianity?
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@@philipscorn9006 @Philips Corn and I've written underneath that video that if he so sure Shady Nasser is a charlatan then let's arrange a live debate with him & Shady and I'll contribute towards the cost. As expected Farid hasn't replied back so that just shows you who is the charlatan.
@@adamnasser2995 it someone has made an error then they have made an error and we have to accept that regardless of who they are. Having said that, I can assure you Farid won't have the backbone to debate Shady Nasser because all that will happen is Shady will own up to his mistakes, get that out of the way and then tear Farid to pieces.
Thanks Dr. Shady Nasser and AP, for this very educated information and talk. Keep going!
Apostate Prophet brings a scholar on islam, the scholar looks to be a native Arabic speaker, the scholar graduated from Harvard, the scholar **teaches** and studies Islam at Harvard, the scholar probably knows Islam inside and out.
What will the muslims say? "This guy is not fit to talk about Islam, it needs to be a sheikh", of course. Just you guys wait...
At this point, I'm starting to think AP is just giving us more to work with; since muslims don't really listen to him, he brings the best scholars, critics and questioners of the Quran to his channel in order to a) introduce us to their content, if they have it, and b) load us with cutting edge knowlege from specialists about the Quran, Islam and Muhammad. And that's pretty swell of him.
It's like people are in a court room and the one being judged is Islam. Then someone brings a detective to show the evidence he has related to Islam and people start complaining "take this guy outta here, it's only fair if we listen to his lawyer"
@@VitorEmanuelOliver If we *only* listen to his lawyer. And the prosecution has to work only with what his lawyer says, no matter how absurd.
Why do we need a harvard scholar to tell us the qoran is a book of fiction? When common sense suffice.
@@joek8948 Since when do muslims have common sense?
Why would a deity who is supposed to be the creator of the whole universe create a religion that is so un-universal (is that even a word?), a religion that would be so hard for people to understand and follow, unless you live in the 7th century Arabia. Here is what I mean:
Why would the creator of the universe start a religion in a language that is spoken by less than 10% of the world’s population AND THEN make it a law that the book he dictated to an illiterate merchant turned warlord shall never ever be translated to any other language?
Why would the creator of the universe make everybody face Mecca when praying. Doesn’t he know that the earth is round, and we will one day become a space-faring nation?
Why would the creator of the universe make it an obligation for all Muslims to visit an obscure shire in the middle of the desert at least once in a lifetime? Couldn’t he foresee the logistical problems it will make? And the deaths that it will cause (Stampedes happen almost every other year. In 2015, 2144 people died due to a massive stampede)?
Wouldn’t Allah know how hard it would be for Asians for example to grow a beard? (Yes, a beard is recommended in the Hadith)?
Wouldn’t Allah know how impractical the Hijab would be in other climates?
Why doesn’t Allah appreciate the diverse cultures of humankind?
Why would Allah feel the need to apply a common denominator to all Muslims, and then choosing pre-Islamic customs as the common denominator?
Questions needed to be answered or shouldn’t even have to be questioned if Allah was really a real God .
Using a book to transmit information for a divine being is so hilariously inefficient and stupid it should automatically dismiss any religion that puts that forward.
@@BillRevis well that should apply only to Islam that claims their book is directly given from heaven to Mohamed / the direct word of Allah . The Bible has no such statement but divine inspiration. The Bible is this case is in a better state than Islam which claims that Quran is the literal word of Allah .
@@whoisnext9837 The Bible is said to be the Word of God revealed through both historical writing and through inspiration and example. No part of the book can be wrong because it has been compiled using divine guidance from God.
Just like the Qur'an, the Bible cannot be challenged and is regarded as flawless, unique and undeniable.
Look at Young Earth Creationists, Ultra-Orthodox Jews etc. They are every bit unbending as hardline Islamists.
@@dulcettones5536 The Islamic belief about revelations and the Christian one are completely different! The Bible can be said to be the word of God because of the following reasons. Through it God speaks to human beings through his son, Jesus Christ.(Heb 1:1-2) All scripture was inspired by God .(2 Timothy 3:16) The human authors/writes were under the influence of the Holy Spirit. Unlike the Quran which Muslims claim that it is sent directly from heavens to Mohamed and there is no evidence that Allah really sent a book ! The probability of the Quran being written by Mohamed exceeds the other hypothesis since there is no historical , archaeological or even witnesses that support Mohamed claim about Allah’s revelations!
@tom hamad Every word in your comment is wrong , deceptive and promote of propaganda! One thing can destroy your whole argument: Where in the Quran it says that other followers of religions will enter paradise ? It’s purely known in Islamic belief that only Muslims ( not guaranteed too ) will enter jannah. Do you want some troubling verses about Allah’s justice ?
Thank you very much for this channel and also professor Shady Nasser. Kudos to both of you👍👍👍
As another modern Islamic scholar (Dr Y Qadhi) said ""THE MOMENT WE DO A DEEP DIVE THINGS GET VERY AWKWARD"" with reference to the SIN (Standard Islamic Narrative)
He couldn't be more right.
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*the standard narative has holes in it*
@@euttdsiggh2783
SIN has big holes and they getting wider and deeper.
Arabs created Quran from compilations of Pre-Islamic Arabic literature derived from Biblical stories, ideas & popular folklore of 7th century middle-east.
Arab empire invented Islam as a tool for imperialism.
@@roshlew6994
I couldn't agree more as Islam like other Abrahamic religions was created by emperors, kings, leaders and warlords to be used as a ""political tool"" to unite and control the masses and to ensure that the leadership have absolute control of political and economic power.
Thank you Dr. Shady Nasser your services are very much appreciated.
Can’t tell you just how much I enjoyed this highly informative discussion!
Finally!!! Good work AP as always
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Dr Nasser is a heavy weight scholar, my thanks to him for taking the time! 🙏 Amazing that you got him on your channel AP! 👏
I am listening to the conversation now with great enthusiasm.
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There are lots heavy weight scholars in arabic world.
But you have to have mind to question them properly
@@necmettinmutlu306 AP's questions were well thought out. And Dr Nasser was brilliant
@@Stardust475 mr nasser is not a historian
The questions must be about arabic language
@@mohdsadiq1928 look at the panic in your behaviour, spamming the same link and text in every comment. This is very telling...
One of the best people you've had on, i appreciate this video thanks AP
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@@philipscorn9006 i just wanted to do the same akhi🤣
@@ne3583 Hahaha, lol. Even with that his followers are still ignorant, although some are willing to see it.
@@philipscorn9006 look at the panic in your behaviour, spamming the same link and text in every comment. This is very telling...
Very honest from the heart calm and plain speaking and sharing by prof Nasser very rare to see from a Muslim perspective . Very much appreciate him for sharing his time and intellect
This is high quality content, thank you. I only wish it was this polite, level headed and truly exploratory when apologists talk/ debate topics such as these and many others.
always waited for such scholarly discussion.Thanks AP
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Absolutely brilliant interview Ridvan. Dr Nasser is actually more forthcoming on specific positions than I've seen in other interviews. Liked the short answer long answer approach. As dawahganda types love to mislead and misuse context.
A Harvard liar. The channel Farid Responds already has a response to this guys lies about the Quran. Horrible example of “Harvard scholarship “. His lies and mistakes are easily refuted simply by following his citations and how mentions thing that simply are not there in the sources he quoted etc etc. He is basically using Harvard as a brand to fool people into thinking he did some real research when in fact he is simply making things up. Furthermore, shame on the Harvard PhD committee for not being thorough in its investigation. Clearly they have an agenda.
@@RT-or9wd you moron...Daniel Haqique the guy who gave Apiss anxiety attack.... remember him ...yes Harvard graduate..🥸
@@snf321gotti6 Huh? Pikachu literally admitted that s 3 x slav3ry and pedophililia is halal. What are you talking about?😂 Tell me you're crying Jihadi tears without telling me you're crying Jihadi tears🤣
@@proudexmuslim3719 I believe the Moron associate of yours was asking for an example of one Muslim apologist who graduated from Harvard . Thanks for being dumb.
@@snf321gotti6 I didn't ask for nothing you lil goosey. Seems like the too informed Islamists did not see the video of Pikachu openly admitting that pedophililia and s 3 x slav3ry is "beautiful". Or maybe you're just a butthurt Abdool🤣💀 #crymejihaditears
Uh-oh! This is going to be damaging.
Edit: I also did an analysis on the supposed ‘preservation’ of the Qur’aan on my channel. It includes all the relevant information that one needs to know about concerning this topic. The conclusion? A devastating one.
Yup …
IT’s gonna leave MARK for sure
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Islams HOLES are EXPOSED...
Already is
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@@philipscorn9006
Where is the debate between Nasser and Farid?
Why are you lying?
Awesome discussion...fruit full & honest explanation, thank you AP & DR Nasser 🙏👍🎖
@Apostate Prophet very nice listening to the conversation, I know you had questions, but it developed nicely. Thanks to both of you for the information.
Prof. Nasser is a gift that keeps on giving.
Thank you, stellar content.
This man is a joy to listen to, I would love to listen to him here again
I wish he could talk more about how the theories and ideas about the Quran evolved over time. Also about the dark period between when the Quran supposedly was compiled and later scholars trying to understand. For example he uses LOL, you wouldn’t expect people in 1950 to under it but you would expect some inference of it in 2050. Not a lot of people talk about why it seemed like muslim scholars were rediscovering Islam 200 years later, not building upon prior knowledge. I don’t think warfare is a sufficient answer.
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I would think, based on what I gather, because not many people knew how to write Arabic, grammatical Arabic wasn't standardized either. It reminds me of a CZcams clip I saw where it was mentioned that it was common for households to have 3 shakers, one for salt, one for pepper, and the third one was a mystery. Because no one decided to write it down, now people aren't sure what was in that third shaker, so info can get lost pretty easily.
It was not written by Mohamed.. he just translated it from Syriac books who were Christian Arab books which were at the possession of waraqa bnu nawfal his teacher then Mohamed got an idea of declaring himself officially a prophet when he was very sure of himself thus after going to Medina there he invented that aggressive part of Qur'an contrary to the first verses he recited in Mecca
This gotta be my favorite discussion. Will always come back to this video
Good balanced approach. I appreciate this a lot more than anything I've read and watched before on this topic
So interesting. What an insightful man. And such humility from him in his bearing
So many questions can only be answered by "we don't know", "it's very difficult to say", "we have no evidence."... It was the Dark Ages all right.
Dr. Nasser whole attitude and presence is both comforting and causes intrigue with what he is saying. Great guest!
Keep going AP. Your content has was good to start with, and gets better and better.
Allah isn't mighty enough to stop people fr leaving him and his religion.
@tom hamad
It just means more muslims migrated to us.
Migration isn't a growth.Its a change of demographic
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@tom hamad
Who care!
Your boss definitely was a cri m inal.
@tom hamad
You can find and download authentic quran and tafsirs from islamic websites of saudi and jordan kingdoms.
Read your books before you talk about your religion.
@tom hamad Islam is about to take a massive hit. Do you have any idea how much of the “Muslim” youth are secretly apostates? If I didn’t dislike Islam I might have felt bad for you.
Dr. Shady Nasser: *"There is NO WAY to say, that the Qxrxn, as you have it today, it's exactly how the Prophet was receiting it!"*
1. Dialect
2. Old Arabic are NOT the same as Modern Arabic
3. Qur'an was written years after Muhammad died
4. Original Qur'an was burned
5. Depend on reciting which could potentially change
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
1 Peter 2:24 KJV
@@scareddoglikelslamprayer615 🤢 your fiction is just as gross as there's
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@@user-eg2jy2yt2f
Know that age of birmengam quran is near 1400 years and it is similar to own quran
Thank you for such honest video! Hope it helps the truthseekers.
Nice conversation. We know more about islam and its book.
Thankyou bro AP🙏❤
A wonderful academic discussion. Thank you, bro AP.
AP bro stay blessed and please have more sitting with this professor about different topics similar to this topic. This guy is honest, straight forward, eloquent and have hell of critical knowledge.
Please have one or more sittings with this guy.
I think he showed me that my understanding of the Koran and history is a lot more complicated than I thought it was, with varying beliefs within Islam not necessarily being right or wrong. Thank you. I think I will be slower to judge, and to think I know something. I wonder if I really know enough to get it right!
Dude this guy is amazing!!!!!! He was pretty calm, straightforward and professional.
He canonized the five qurans. Muslims dislike him because he is truthful.
A brilliant discussion, thankyou, Dr Nasser. I learnt a lot, of the historical background of the Muslim holy book.
Great to hear somebody discuss this topic with no agenda just a pursuit of the truth. Okay .
Highly recommend watching father Zakaria petros, Dr David Wood, Hamid Abdel Samad.
But.. But... Perfectly preserved, clearly divine. Does not compute... Does not compute... Does not compute... 🤯
Reboot....
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@@philipscorn9006 dude stop spamming garbage, please
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Brillant from Dr Shady Nasser.. bringing the Quran to what it is, simply..!!!!!
Top tier content - excellent video.
Absolutely impressive that you managed to get such a reputable scholar as Dr. Nassar on your program!! Listening attentively, taking notes and you're asking the same follow up questions that are going through my mind! Much respect to you and Dr. Nasser for agreeing to do this interview.
Looking forward to seeing you have more scholars on your program! Awesome interview! My respect level for AP has significantly increased!
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@@israfilangel8062 that's no exposure, it's just a one sided opinion.
@@nemesis1291 that's not an opinion! it is called fact-checking you can do it yourself if you have access to the references, you will even be able to refute what shady brought and misquoted! We already heard shady's side and now it's time for his followers to hear the muslim side and be more skeptical of shady for being incompetent and ask him to respect his viewers intellect!
You don't need to hear a rebuttal since all the references are being provided to check there, just do some fact checking and you will arrive at the same conclusion that shady is incompetent and a charltn!
@@israfilangel8062 fanboys of Farida...
@@nemesis1291 LOL you are the definition of fanboyism since you didn't even care about what Shady's been spoon feeding you this whole time to end up in this embarrassing situation! Now you resorted to ad hominem instead of dealing with the content, so predictable!
I enjoyed it to the Max, thank you both.
Allah said he gave Muhammad a book.
Muhammad never received a book.
I think me and you could have an beneficial live stream, im an ex salafi/jihadi Muslim, i have many classical sources which show Islams madness
That would be great to watch
Were you a convert to Islam?
Do you have any videos?
Theres a Mexican guy on Abdullah Sameers channel (friendly ex-muslim) who converted to Islam, followed the Salafi school for a period and describes his ordeal in a fascinating two part video series.
Former Muslim Convert and Ex-Muslim Salafi Aboo Imraan Interview -- czcams.com/video/5gXBxjxa1wg/video.html
PART 2: Former Muslim Convert and Ex-Muslim Salafi Aboo Imraan Interview -- czcams.com/video/v9zsclrMA_k/video.html
@@nymgrace1227 yeah i converted back in 2014, left Islam little over a year ago
As a Muslim I appreciate Professor Shady for what he does and his writings. There is no point in hiding historical issues/controversies when the goal is to seek the truth. You can really tell the sincerity in Shady when he talks about the topics he does.
This is more informative
:- czcams.com/video/SRvc6YARzRY/video.html
I'm so glad that there are many Muslims who are willing to accept critics of Islam and listen to people why Islam is false
Golden interview!! Thanks AP
We need 100 Dr. Shady Nasser. Respect to this scholar.
Keya watch Christian Prince videos. Mostly Debate between Islam and Christian. Lot of topics against Islam to learn
What I learned from Western debaters on the art or debate is that they put their opinions and personal beliefs to the side and remain consistently academic the entire time. That’s what this professor is doing and it’s something most muslim debaters cannot seem to do.
True as a muslim i cannot imagine debates between muslim scholars and ex muslim atheist in mosques not even in the distant future .. priests and atheists debates in church opened a new world for me where everyone was so decent and polite .. in my journey the ex christian debates helped me more than the ex muslim movement which is all about shouting , abusing and ridiculing .
@@sadiqakhan277 do you believe islam is from God? Or are you unsure?
@@sumyunguy6894 i am very sure about my belief i dont need any argument or debate for that ..
@@sadiqakhan277 if you’re very sure why wouldn’t you want to discuss it? Wouldn’t you want to show the truth to others?
@@sumyunguy6894its a waste of time and energy when the opposing side refuses to debate rationally and logically .. and then comes the personal attack .. so its best to avoid such conversations .. common sense is something you cannot share .
People are leaving Islam.
@tom hamad You must be fond of pedophilia as Muhammad, the "best example" of Islam, is the pedophile priest of Islam and the Quran sanctions pedophilia as "marriage" in 33:49 and 65:4. So shameful and disgusting.
@tom hamad you wanted to have relationships with Aisha aged girls and not think of it as perverted and sinful?
@Tom hamad 🤣 you are the type of Judas (not called,not chosen but a seller) or a type of a prodigal son. Hadn’t been saved 😢
In Islam paradise there are 72 Aishas waiting
@tom hamad Islam actually condones and sanctions pedophilia as "marriage" of girls as young as babies. You're either ignorant or just dumb.
Insightful conversation. We would be happy to hear more about the Arabic civilization.
he was very unbiased. even too soft for my taste but whatever. really liked what he said and the conversation
Here is a video where Farid Responds exposes this so called "scholar" czcams.com/video/SRvc6YARzRY/video.html
Dr Shady is a fantastic personality, very friendly and humble spirit despite his such a high education and credentials! The whole respect and blessings!!!!❤
OMG, look at this:: Farid Vs Shady Nasser: czcams.com/video/SRvc6YARzRY/video.html
@@philipscorn9006 Why then Farid wouldn't call the professor for a debate?
This man is so awesome ! Wow
Thanks for the excellent interview.
Thank you guys very much this was very informative.🙏🙏
Absolutely brilliant. Dr. Nasser is always worth listening to, thanks AP!
Dr Shady himself. How did you pull that out?? Respect.
An outstanding discussion by the professor.
What a great content AP! Enjoyed every bit of the discussion esp coming from the academic perspective
RECIPE FOR ISLAM
Take a dollop of Judaism add
a fraction of Christianity
a large measure of paganism .
Put in blender ....out comes mush.
Serve liberally
Serve forcefully, if needed employ terror
@@Joe-xh9pw
Hi Joe,
If only we could administer an enema !!😂😂
@@peteunsworth3158 😲😂😂
ok, just listened to the opening, the "Upcoming", this guy is smart.
@@mohdsadiq1928 you destroyed yourself please note your allah didn't know about internet
Haha dnt know any interest muhammud... Create first earth not heaven
GREAT INTERVIEW👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks prof Shady Nasser 😍
I always knew the Quran was fraudulent from the first verse.
Surah Al-Fatihah(الفاتحة) 1:1 In the Name of Allah-the Most Compassionate, Most Merciful.
If Allah is talking why does he have to refer to himself as in the name of Allah🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
A clear error in the book
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤔🤷♂️
The ko-ooran is corrupted because muhummud uttered the satanic verses
@@yousafzai8547 Go ahead prove me wrong Abdool. Your Allah has a shin by the way
"I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "Our Lord Allah will lay bare His Shin, and then all the Believers, men and women, will prostrate themselves before Him..." Sahih al-Bukhari 4919🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@yousafzai8547 Why is it stupid? Explain please! It's really bizarre that Allah praises himself.. It's very immodest, and we know that you Muslims you value modesty..
@@yousafzai8547 it's not stupid, at the very least it's refuting the salafist point of view
Excellent show, very rare occasion to handle all the topics. Smoothly proceeded, content is stocking. Thank you, AP and Dr. Nasser. I hoped islam sheikhs and imams have watching this video. It is evident what they insist is wrong!
This is a well presented vid
Good job
I very much like the academic approach 👌🏼
As I was sipping my coffee was pondering how come AP hasn’t put anything damaging to Islam and behold allah delivered again using the Apostate Prophet :)
We don't understand this sentenc. Probably you should have drunk more coffee first 😎
Allah does not exist!
Allah is " the God" in Arabic. so the God delivered again. Which God? The God with no name.
@@WalterKluwers so it is not Allah
He was being sarcastic.
intense Q & A very revealing...thank you
Will you bring us the real Quentin Tarantino next time?
The abdools are are not going to like this interview. They have been told their whole life the Quran has not been modified
Oh yes, that professor is such a thorn in our side! A professor who thinks that 95% of us Muslims do not believe that the Koran is the DIRECT word of God.
We are laughing at you. Only you don't realize that :)
@@khattab3910 your holy book is full of grammar errors...
@ holy? More like holey.
@@khattab3910 Quran is plagiarism from fake sources
@@khattab3910 You don't even understand what the guy says : 3:58 "You want to believe it's the word of God, it's the word of God; you don't want to believe in that, it's not" Do you understand now ? I will not type all the discussion for you..
Excellent…more!
AP You have come a long way since I started to follow your videos 2years ago
love the honesty of that professor,briiliant,such is AP..
A fabulous and insightful discussion. Thank you.
Ooh, I like this guy.
Yes.
Academics, historians, and scientists have no business with god. We work with evidence not faith.
Faith belongs to the theologians.
But faith must be based on something tangible or else it's just blind faith.
Jesus for example performed many miracles in public before asking strangers to trust him.
The apostles saw Jesus resurrected and their willingness to die or be tortured to death over that claim is what allowed Christianity to expand, otherwise it would have died with Jesus ( if faking the resurrection of a publicly executed leader was so easy, we would have countless successful examples yet we only have one if you want to consider Jesus case a fake).
The guy is a joke
@@el_killorcure 😂🤣😅🤣😂
@@ggvgj2079 in what way?
You do know that most of academics, historians and scientists who started most universities around the world were people of faith right?
Very humble and modest attitude reflects from AP's English
Great video!!
Let's hope the best for Dr. Shady Nasser. I'm a bit concern with his safety after this video
Do you mean in regards with salafists?
May Allah protects him.
He has many many talks along these lines at conferences that have been posted, and has talked with other people on these topics. He does not seem very concerned. I love listening to him, a true academic!
Wake up habub
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@@mohdsadiq1928 look at the panic in your behaviour, spamming the same link and text in every comment. This is very telling...
Fantastic 👌
YAAAAY.. Great of u to host Dr..
❤️ AP
Dr. Shady Nasser, as usual being one of my favourite scholars. Thanks for putting interviews out such as these.
This mechanic to approach the text from the perspective that it has to be true, thus we'll find the right explanation is not unique to Islam's interpretation of the Qu'ran. It also appears in other religions, such as Christianity f.e. I remember doing the exact same thing as a fundamental christian towards the Bible.
The bias of a religious faith towards it's sacred texts can not be underestimated.
If you really want to see an Islamic community which is friendly and peaceful, come, visit my country Indonesia 😂 not quite "Islamic" by middle east standard, but still it is a country with Muslim majority, a handful of them have transnational, radical view of Islam, sometimes terrible terrorists managed to attack, but in overall we are a peaceful society ❤
I found particularly interesting Dr Nasser's answers on how literary asthetics have differed over time and the speech of god nuances (I assume he talks with Khalil Andani at Harvard who talks about the latter issue on Twitter). Shady has done very interesting work on the canonization process. His first book focused on how certain readings became shadhdh (non-canonical) and the second published last year explores what we can learn from Ibn Mujahid's book of the seven readings. Of course, certain bozo apologists try to paint him as some kind of polemicist in disguise, but I hope it's clear from his manner in this interview that his work is concerned with questions of academic interest. Other academics certainly admire and appreciate his work.
OMG, look at this:: Farid Vs Shady Nasser: czcams.com/video/SRvc6YARzRY/video.html
I'd already heard it and have seen these attack points all before. Here are a couple of responses on reddit to Farid's video: 1 of 2: "The general consensus on Aasim: trustworthy but bad retention. Weak on unique transmissions.
There's a compilation of opinions on him here, and even on the page that Farid displayed [2:09] they're calling him 'unretentive' 'dismissed'."
2 of 2: "On the al Tabari one Nasser admitted the mistake and corrected himself in his second book p. 107. Tabari did criticise the maaliki reading, but it was maalaka that he said was against consensus so that's the only bit on the screenshot page that Nasser got wrong. Sure, it's a mistake (van Putten guessed Nasser may have used the edition with the typo there), but the overall point stands whereby Nasser gives numerous examples of Tabari criticising variants that became canonical. Nasser did make some mistakes about Ibn Attiyah, and the biography entries for Qunbul (Farid himself found that there's at least one edition of the source with the same mistake, albeit not the edition Shady cited) and Ibn Dhakwan. He wrote two massive books, so while he should have done better, it's going to have some mistakes. Neither Farid nor his friends have been able to address the reports on other readers and transmitters, so it barely affects the point Nasser is making. Nasser was essentially correct that Asim was often weakened, as van Putten confirmed when this came up before, but Nasser explicitly says that he is only listing negative reports and explains why afterwards. It's part of his theory on why tawatur became so important, that this aspect of hadith methodology wasn't wholey viable for the readers and transmitters. Nasser even explicitly states right after the list that he has been selective and most reports for each reader say they were trustworthy, which you'd never guess from Farid's hatchet job. But Farid loves to straw man people. And as for the ahruf hadith stuff - another straw man as Dr Hishami pointed out after confirming with Nasser himself. Nasser carefully explains in the book that he is not seeking to establish its authenticity or otherwise, but rather he is interested in when it was starting to circulate widely. Van Putten also backed him against Farid on this (except for on the Ubayy version). Incidentally, Van Putten has also called out Farid in the past for a dishonest misreading Ibn al Jazari."
@@adamnasser2995 You definitely didn't watch the whole video.
@@adamnasser2995 You're citing Javad Hasmi? The Muslim who believed the verses are storytales?
Brilliant. Very informative.
This is more informative
:- czcams.com/video/SRvc6YARzRY/video.html
Brilliant, great and excellent academics explanation about Islam & Prophet Muhammad Pbuh
Do you mind if we use clips of this?
Please do it.
@@ApostateProphet Thanks!
@@janddbackup Keep it up, Jai.
Keep it up brother 💪
@JAI Apologetics can't wait to see this when you critic. Just like the interview with Dr Bart Ehrman and Mimi!