'Lies in the Name of God': Biblical Forgeries
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- The Bible contains books written by '"eyewitnesses" to the life and teaching of Jesus. One such book is the famous Second Letter of St Peter.
However, virtually all New Testament scholars today think it is highly unlikely (or even 'impossible') that Peter, the disciple of Jesus, actually wrote the letter attributed to him.
In this episode I discuss why 2 Peter is almost certainly a forgery and what this means for faith.
I actually took notes in my bible, of errors, inconsistencies which i fould interesting so i knew that historically the new testament has been currupted which for me is strange to say because i was a christian and i wanted to be a preacher myself, until i learned about islam when i was 15, now i try my best to study all religions and languages and i love finding so many connections to auran or islam which i feel makes it mmore beautiful and unique
All of Islam is only based on what Mohammed recited and how he lived. What Mohammed recited is recorded in the Quran which is full of mistakes and contradictions as well logical dilemmas. So find all the errors and inconsistencies in the Quran and compare it to the Bible.
@@johnzuma4688 tell me where? I have read through the quran myself and didnt find any, it is even known as the finest arabic litterature even to non muslim arabs, so much so that it is in its own catagory, not a porm nor a story or novel etc. One scholar actually thought like you and critisized the quran until a student actually suggested to read it, he became a muslim months after that. Another man who was very anti islam triwd to write a book to talk about this very subject against islam and after studing the book and the life of the prophet he became a muslim himself.
@@reyc.5545 You say you have not found any mistakes in the Quran? Do you really believe that the sun sets in a muddy or hot pool or spring (Surah 18:83-90)? If you paid school fees the demand them back as the sun does not set at all.
Then read about embryology, the Quran is false as it is based on what the pagan Greeks believed some 1000 years earlier and which was the standard belief at the time of Mohammed. So Mohammed just copied something which we today know is wrong.
The of course we read in Surah 9:30, that “the Jews” say that Ezra is the Son of God. Now “the Jews” implies all of them, but we know of no Jews who ever said that Ezra is the Son of God. And even if there had been some obscure unknown sect of Jews who said that, it still makes this verse wrong as all “the Jews” never said that.
So three mistakes, but id you just google, “mistakes in the Quran” you will find dozens of websites that will show you many mistakes in the Quran.
You say >> it [the Quran] is even known as the finest arabic litterature
@@johnzuma4688
Even today people still saying the sun set in the sea, or into the mountain.. nothing weird about that..
What about bible saying earth have 4 corners??
@@johnzuma4688
Quote the verse first about the sun....and you will see how wrong you are...
Imagine being entrusted to protect and spread the word of God, but instead you forge letters that are responsible for misguiding billions of humans throughout history. Never mind all the killings that happened in the name of those forgeries.
It takes a genuine seeker of truth to admit those errors and make amendments, unfortunately, many people were born into religion and they never will challenge their beliefs, they practice blind beliefs with authoritative ignorance.
All religions are myths.
Yeah like in the Quran
Quran 2:78-79
78) "Some of them are uneducated, and know the Scripture only through wish-ful thinking. They rely on guesswork.
79) So woe to those who write the “scripture” with their own hands, then say, “This is from Allah,” in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn.
@@kronos01fulMuslims memorized quran and learn Arabic to understand. A way to preserve it as well. You, are you memorizing bible and learn Greek or Hebrew?
Paul "And I have read every word of it" - awesome!
lol
Brilliant lol!
Sir, you speak very well. Highly eloquent.
One of the biggest problems with the Bible as it stands today is that it forces us to look at Hebrew and Aramaic scriptures through Greek and Latin glasses as seen by people who are neither Jews,Greeks,nor Romans.All of the so called“original”manuscripts available today are written in Greek.The verses ofJohn1:1is exactly equivalent to such verses as Psalms82:6:“I have said,Ye(theJews) are gods;and all of you are children of the most High”,or Exodus7:1:“And the LORD said unto Moses,See,I have made thee a god to Pharaoh”The Jews had no trouble reading such verses while still affirming that there is only one God in existence and vehemently denying the divinity of all but God almighty.
It is the continuous filtration of these manuscripts through different language and cultures as well as the Roman Catholic church’s extensive efforts to completely destroy all of the original Hebrew Gospels,which has led to this misunderstanding of the verses.If I were an American,and I were to tell,for example,the citizens of China:“Hit the road men,”we would more than likely find countless people beating the street with sticks.Did they understand the words?Yes!Did they understand the meaning?No!
It was the shocking discovery of the inauthenticity of 2 Peter which led me to question more of the New Testament, such as discrepancies between Paul's own account of his actions following his conversion in Galations and 'Luke's' retellings in Acts of the Apostles. It kept snowballing from there until my trust in New Testament reliability was thoroughly undermined.
I know the feeling!
@@BloggingTheology I now find myself floating in type of theological space, making various orbital peregrinations between and around the various Abrahamic faiths, but never quite making landfall. I still find some Truth in the New Testament, but my monotheistic inclinations keep me floating somewhere between Islam and Judaism: I am not entirely convinced by either, however. Perhaps I should settle for Noahide status? I wonder whether you have any thoughts on Noahides? In any case, I love listening to your podcasts, despite the near vacuum of theological space ;))
@@gavinjames1145 have you read the work of Gai Eaton?
@@BloggingTheology No I haven't read Gai Eaton. I'll Google him though, if you recommend him.
@@gavinjames1145 yes I do. Especially for you 😊 I recommend all his works but perhaps Islam and the Destiny of Man is a good one for you.
Salam aliaukum brother Paul thank you for sharing the knowledge..
salam and thanks
@@BloggingTheology Good work on last vid I only just realise who you are. But equally you need study this please. I have no skin in the game but knowledge is knowledge. Best to not swap one fraud for another.
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@@BloggingTheologySo how many errors are in the Quran??😂😂😂😂 Not that brave are you!!
@@feelyoung79There isn't , that's the answer.
Do they not then reflect on the Quran? Had it been from anyone other than Allah, they would have certainly found in it many inconsistencies.
-Surah An-Nisāʾ, Ayah 82
That's a 1400+ years old challenge.
Even if there is one , it doesn't make Christianity true.
Jeremiah 8:8
[8]“ ‘How can you say, “We are wise,
for we have the law of the Lord,”
when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?
It's written in the book itself , cope with it.
So woe to those who distort the Scripture with their own hands then say, “This is from God”-seeking a fleeting gain! So woe to them for what their hands have written, and woe to them for what they have earned.
-Surah Al-Baqarah, Ayah 79
Amazing work you are doing here brother.... It's a real pleasure hearing from you!
Pretty Shocking these "pious" forgeries to say the least. Makes me wonder how Christians reading this manage to retain their faith! Perhaps they Don't! 🤢
Many end up Atheist once they come into the true knowledge of the Bible.
I wondered as well how they manage to keep their faiths in the light of the obvious fact against it coming out from academic research
it is because of this many left the faith, wow to those who wrote these and said it is from God.
I hope you are well Mr Williams. It is a certain fact, that you have been a source of powerful inspiration for myself and possibly many others, to keep studying, reading, researching and writing. My field of study may not be the same as yours, but the pursuit of knowledge is a goal that we both share. Keep up the good work and remember, the more you read and make videos, the better the world becomes! Make more videos!
thanks for the encouragement!
Lol! Why do you have Daniel as your profile pic?
With you on everything you said here @Francis Collins
@@BloggingTheology bring back the intro
No matter how u dig deep into the ground to bury the truth it will one day come out God is great truth sHall always prevail God richly bless u Mr Paul
I hope what you said is true. I was a faithful American evangelical for many years. It cost me tens of thousands of dollars and many man-hours of volunteer labor. Now it seems that everything I believed and was taught is falling apart.
Absolutely !!!
@@lloydtucker5647 I feel ya
We need more our Christian brothers to join in this discussion...
Brothers in humanity??
MashAllah keep it up Paul
They are not your brothers
What Paul presents is well known in Christian circles. And the "Peter" letters do not contradict any of the teachings of the Gospel as a whole. Second Peter summaries a number of issues nicely. If one follows the idea that the scriptures are inspired by God then logically all the books and letters we now have are inspired by God, so it is totally irrelavant who wrote them or when they were written. So in effect the argument is just a red herring argument as it changes nothing in Gods plan for our salvation. Presenting what is well known as something new and extraordanry makes it sound very desperate. Only people who are very ignorant of the Bible would be impressed by this.
But we should now look at the what is written in the Quran and the hadiths and determine how likely it is to come from Mohammed's Allah as this information is not generally known.
@@omarelghoul9256 Yes
FORGED by Bart Ehrman is a good read, In fact an excellent read.
Respect your scholarly research. Wish to meet you some day. You come across as a person who argues in the best manner the way Quran orders us - unaggressive, humble, gentle and yet convincing. May Allah reward you well for disseminating valuable information.
Thank you
@@BloggingTheology Why no muslim can answer this Question honestly? 👉? WHO IS THE ALPHA AND OMEGA IN QUR'AN & BIBLE??? give the VERSES , please! thanks.
Please do answer honestly... Coz only the devil & its followers believe that TAQQIYA Answers as the TRUTH
@@nabipedofmuhammadpenciptaa4163
For muslim it does not matter if Alpha and Omega are used for Jesus in the bible....
Because according to them anything that contradicts the Quran is forgery....
Is this an honest answer ?...
@@Logia1978 Half truth is still Taqqiya.
That's right Jesus is the ALPHA & OMEGA in the Bible.
How about in the Quran WHO IS THE ALPHA AND OMEGA IN QUR'AN?
Remember that Bible comes first then Qur'an! So don't give Absurd excuses , pls
@@nabipedofmuhammadpenciptaa4163
In the quran there is no alpha and omega but first and last.. which is Allah...
And Allah told us that he is not Jesus...And that the only book he protected Himself is the Quran wich is the Criteria and the ultimate authority above all other scriptures...
The bible came first so what ?
The torah came before the Gospels and said that god does not change and is not a man nore born of a woman...
What is your *Absurd* Excuse now ?
Dont you have shame giving racist atributes and imperfections to GOD ?
And taqiya is taught by Paul in your bible...
JazakAllah Khair..
Always grateful for your sharing...
May Allah SWT continues to inspire you..
You are a rare gems! You actually make me closer more to your, spending a few minutes with you on channel better than taking an rest, thanks may Allah SWT bless you more and more.
Amen brother.....We should be doing the same Job Sir Paul Williams is doing. Let's start with our Nigeria.
@twn B lie.. lie..lie
Bring your evidences if you are truthful
Thanks for sharing this.
Once upon a time, a person denying the authority of bishops or questioning the integrity of scripture would find their wrists tied to one horse and their ankles tied to another. Then both horses would be sent running in opposite directions. Church obviously used these methods for a reason.
Church can't do that to people today, so they have to be creative when explaining away inconsistencies and contradictions.
Source: trust me bro
@@trismegistus2881Read book how jews persecuted by christians and they lived under protection of Islam in al Andaluz period. Read how cruel christians in medieval era. How christianity always come along with colonialis invasion. Trinity invented in 4th century.
My most favorite blogger so far
Assalam Paul
Please a video on Church Fathers and another on three main classes of books you met in your experience.
Thank you.
Why aren't the forgeries removed from the canon, if even most Christian scholars agree? I have never heard of a priest or minister answer a question about anything in the Bible by saying "oh don't worry, that's a forgery anyway". Do most of them not know, or just not want to admit it to their congregations?
Very good question how am I 50 years old and only just found out that the Catholic Bible has 73 books and the Bible I have always thought to be the word of God has 66 books?
I've been watching a few of your videos. Absolutely fabulous ! Learning a lot from you, while at the same time unlearning the lies I've been fed for many years. Today I am a new subscriber. Thank you
Welcome aboard!
I am trying to watch all your "Blogging Theologian" series on CZcams, it is fascinating, educational, eye-opening. Thank you Paul. I like to learn more about your background that culminated in all this. God Bless, Godspeed, amin.
We owe you a lot for excellent service.
Sura 99: AL-ZALZALA (THE EARTHQUAKE) - Juz' 30 “Whosoever has done an atom's weight of good shall see it, (7) and whosoever has done an atom's weight of evil shall see it. (8)”
listening to your wonderful lecture made me think of the verses above! The excellent work you do is second to none and I pray GOD almighty who’s the only GOD worthy of worship to grant you and us all the ultimate dream of every believer🙏🏾
Many people like your content, including me. Keep up the good work, Mr. Paul!!!
If you read Arabic Quran, you will find English prepositions, such as, "of, with, by, ..." are missing in many places. If you don't use those prepositions in place, the meanings might be completely different in some cases. Bible in Aramaic is no different than this, it also has such characteristic. The Greek translations deliberately ignored those prepositions to misinterpret the Bible. So when it says, " ... our God and Savior Jesus Christ ...", it rather says, " ... our God and Savior of Jesus Christ ..." We understand there is a missing "of" because we know for certain Jesus is not God and it is easy to insert the missing prepositions in place if one understand the fundamental messages.
How about this , Jesus Christ , Jesuschrist, Jesus the Christ , Jesus our Christ ooops for mine alone.
Except there has never been any original Aramaic gospel ever found. The Aramaic gospel in existence is a translation from Greek.
@@ykn7018 you can’t say never very clear the gospel writers have another gospel with them and copying known as the Q gospel
Blogging theology anchored by Mr. Paul Williams is DAW'AH in its best dimension that caters to the intellectual and learned segments of our people and, therefore, the best medium of transmission of the teachings of Islam. It shows that even the most literate and educated sectors are converting to Islam.
Thanks for educating us professor. God bless you.
When the truth clashes with self-interests, most people chooses self-interests, instead of the truth.
That's why there are so many contradictions in the current "scriptures"...
"People" has tried very best to not to let people read Qur'an.
Cuz, if any one picks up Qur'an, will become a muslim.
Love your research.
Mohamed got his inspiration for the Quran from purchasing pages of the Talmud from Rabbis. Rabbinical Judaism, Islam, Roman Catholic Church and all the break-off religions from the Catholic Church are ALL man-made religions. None of them follow the instructions and directions of Yah.
@@karenmiller6088 Read Quran first by yourself. Atleast once. And find the proof or not by your self.
Reading the Quran convinced me (and not only me) why I should never be Muslim.
I read 77 pages of the Koran in prison and it made me throw up and feel horrible
@@maddyboombaddybaddy6532 I was told that Mohamed married a six year old little girl. Was he really a pedophile? If it's true, that's just sick.
Very well rounded talk!
Very helpful to bring this out. Sbahir Ally also said the same thing. Henry Wansbrough in his monumental work Holy Bible - Revised New Jerusalem Bible - Study Edition (2019), clearly states in his introduction to 2 PETER thus: "The letter is unlikely to have been written by the apostle Peter". The footnote on verse 18 has a superscript 'g' which states "........ The claim of the author to eye-witness testimony is part of the convention." Fair crop ? Nothing is hidden to mislead the reader. Right?
Amazıng how clearly can one elaborate with ease the forgery through the books of the evangelists themselves. I am baffeled
This is one of your most interesting and informative episodes. Thank you so much.
Absolutely fascinating. Thankyou!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Our Dear Brother Paul, Exceptionally researched and Honorably presented as Usual! - May The Glorious Forgiveness, Guidance, -And- Blessings Be Showered upon you, From THE ONE MOST HIGH, MOST GLORIOUS! - In both This Temporal existence, as well as in The ( Eternal ) Heavens, Paradise, "JANNAH" after This! Ameen! -- Actually,.. I must Now Make that Exact "Dua" Prayer for ALL of us, who are continuing to Strive, towards The Best manner to humbly, honestly, and Sincerely "Understanding & Submitting" our feeble Will's to the WILL of THE ONE MOST HIGH! - Again, MANY thanks to you, for "Sharing" your Incredibly Substantial amount of Research! - May Peace Be With You & yours. Ameen
ameeen!
Great work... Am from Kenya and am also a seeker of truth... I always listen to your videos... Kindly share some books which I can learn from since am a novice too
May Allah guide us all to Islam and final revelation Quran.
Amazing work Mr Williams, I’ve just checked your Facebook, all the famous Muslim lecturers/scholars followed you. Keep up the great work. 👍
I will join his page right away!
I joined the facebook group!
hey am from Kenya to Nairobi
@@manhaj_sunnah20300 as Salam u Alikum
@@HH-bi7yk waaleykum salam
ASALAMUALIKUM. PEACE. Woe to those who write with their own hands and woe to those who say it is from God for a miserable price. Just wait for The Day of judgment and everything will be clear to you..
SALAAM..SHALOM...
ASALAMUALIKUM. I wonder what
PAUL, PETER,MARK,LUKE,JOHN HAD IN MIND TO MISLEAD THE
QUARTER OF HUMANITY AROUND
2 BILLIONS OF THEM TO BE MISLEAD IN TO DARKNESS. BY THEIR FALSEHOOD .HOW THEY'RE GOING TO FACE THEIR LORD ON
THE DAY OF JUDGMENT....WHEN TRUTH HEARD AGAINST FALSE HOOD FALSEHOOD, FALSEHOOD PERISHES AND BY NATURE FALSEHOOD BOUND TO PERISH..
PEACE. SALAAM...SHALOM..
but teachings like A child's resemblance to either its mum or dad as based on first one to discharge and seen as coming from an divine source is not being ''misled''? How is that not being a hypocrite...
Catching up on your earliest episodes.
Masterly work! Thank you!
I agree with Bart Ehrman on the point that Peter, probably never wrote anything with his own hands, because he may not have learned to write. The earliest references to the authorship of the Gospel of Mark, say that the author of the gospel was effectively Peter's scribe and that he wrote the gospel from taking notes of Peter's preaching. Therefore, Peter himself, didn't write either 1 Peter or 2 Peter. All of Peter's contributions were physically written by the hands of scribes working for him.
How in the world can Paul read those bricks. I would pass out.
😂 I am so thankful for his diligent reading so I can come and try to grasp even a bit of the knowledge he has presented to us ❤
It is ok Sir Paul, no need to say sorry Sir, I'm using now headset. Thank you Sir Paul.
Thank you brother
You are the best
All the Love and support my Brother
Salam Alaikum brother, do you have any websites for me which talk about these subjects?
Salam, I'm not aware of any. I can recommend some books though.
@@BloggingTheology the books you have recommended i already have them. I thought maybe you knew some websites. But keep doing your thing, i already download all your videos as an MP3 format for me to listing.
May Allah reward you
@@DawahCollective 👍
@@BloggingTheology Could you please recommend me some books as a Novice like me [plus some books for later]??
Assalamu alaikum John. I have just come across your channel recently and really liked your interview on Ansari Podcast so decided to watch your older videos.
wa alaikum assalam - enjoy!
Thank you for the book recommendations.
As far as the Pharisees were concerned ''it was virtually impossible'' that Yeshua was the Messiah; and no matter how many miracles performed it seems still it remained ''impossible'' for most of them.
Thank you for reading that thick book making this video. May Allah subhanahuwataala reward your effort.
Thanks for confirming my own belief that 2 Peter is an ancient version of what we today call "fake news". Thomas Huxley wrote that the author of this letter was ingenious in coming up with an excuse for the delay in what was to be a speedy coming of the Parousia by putting new words into Jesus' mouth by saying that one day was like a thousand years in the eyes of the Lord. However, as Huxley made clear, Jesus was referring to human days when he used the word "generation" (Greek "genea") in Mark 13:30 and parallel verses. As we also know Paul came up with his own fake reason to justify the failure of the end to come as Jesus had so clearly prophesied.
my favorite is the preconditioning to fear 'the apocalypse' when that word literally translates from greek to 'unveiling of knowledge' or 'unveiling of lies'. no wonder the church was so bent on twisting its meaning into something to fear, because if that were to come to pass, their manipulation of people's minds and souls would be utterly exposed.
Yes! I have just discovered this myself - I thought the “apocalypse”was an event in the future, when in fact Jesus himself was an “apocalypse” in the sense that he bought a revelation
Love and respect to Paul. He talks about truth with all the evidence objectively. It opens hearts and minds in seeking true beliefs in the one God, our Creator
One paul forged it , another paul is un forging it , irony isn't it ?
So funny 😂
An amazing n unique discovery, the only thing is what we have is a translated bible's not the original we don't know even where is the original and the logic says for example if I'm going to apply any documents the need the original and will not accept any copies or translation unless attached with the original,
Very enlighting
“...not any other bible, it’s the Holy version..” I’m dead
ye, in fact of the bible there are atleast 30 named versions.
Very good explanation.
Thank you for enlightening people's insights that there were wicked sinful hands writing deceptively and lying intentionally to misguide people. I hope, they will follow your steps, search for the truth and find the only true God SWT. 💐
watching your old videos ❤️😂
Good debate CP
Peace be upon you, Paul. I love watching your videos! What is your religion, if not a secret? Thank you
Good and interesting research, so what is your judgement call on religion based on actual revelations (not the interpretations) ?
Tanks Paul. God Bless You. I want you to do an episode of the After life in Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
Can somebody write the word Paul used for false text, begining with pseudo?
Given that you have read the book by Bart. Why not give a dedicated talk on it?
good idea!
What is your thought on these topics : Sacred name of our Creator (Yahuah) and Savior (Yahusha), Rapture, biblio (pagan name). Am confused. Thank you.
Impressive video and an important topic. Also equally important the books you introduce. I personally thank you for the beautiful discussions and presentations.
It was a wonderful video. Simplicity of your words is appreciated. I'd like to comment on 2 Peter 1:1
The text does not indicate divinity of Jesus. It reads: τοῦ Θεοῦ ἡμῶν καὶ Σωτῆρος Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ
The literal meaning is "the God of us and savior Jesus Christ." It can even mean "the God of us and the God of Jesus."
By the way, Θεοῦ (θεός) doesn't necessarily mean God the creator. It can mean a powerful being, just like Elohim in the OT. So even if we translate the text the same way as some trinitarians do, there is no certainty in this verse about calling Jesus God. Remember that the NT calls even Satan as θεός, And the OT calls Moses "Elohim."
Thank you brother and God bless you.
The other meaning is very interesting.
Superb! thank you so much for this honest presentation. Do you live in London? I am in North London.
Yes I do!
@@BloggingTheology Do you have an email on your blogging theology site?
@@Thewatchman303 p.a.williams007@btinternet.com
Sir, could i ask you question to clarify that where and when did you find about Jesus becomes your Lord,
He's Muslims
Blogging Theology Paul what did you study at university?
Christian theology and Bible. Also philosophy.
@@BloggingTheology
Excellent. No wonder you have such an in depth knowledge and interest in the subject.
Were you a devout Christian at the time?
What led you to Islam?
Whats the name of the violin melody
Good choice, thanks
Peace on to you Mr. Paul, i am getting addicted to your clips and new findings. I have a good friend, actually he is my peer from Venezuela, a strong catholic practitioner. I know the guidance is in Allah's mighty Hands. How can I make him realize that Jesus true path was Islamic. I am pretty sure if he reverts he would the best practicing Muslim by will of God.
Wonderful piece and unbiased. Glued to this channel ever since I discovered it, where was I all this while!
Another excellent video, they planted things for good but didn't had slightest idea that in time the forgery will be unveiled.
As a convert to Islam from Christianity I am witnessing the evidence against Christianity (aka the teachings of Paul, not you Paul Williams, I mean Paul of Tarsus, the real founder of Christianity) keeps mounting every day.
The evidence for Islam and the inability of opponents to argue against it is also becoming more clear each day
We are indeed blessed to be Muslims.
If Allah had not sent the Holy Prophet Muhammad PBUH we would all have certainly been lost.
He has brought true knowledge of God back to the world, he (ﷺ) has restored Monotheism, established a universal faith which shall never perish but will prevail in the end by the command of Almighty God.
Alhumdilullah for Islam!
I love this video
Sir, with every video, you are coming one step closer to Islam.
May Allah keep showing you the way to the truth 😊
I know for a fact that Bro. Paul is already a Muslim (I am sure I saw him in a video in Hyde Park corner)! May Allah swt bless him!!
@@mahosha3124 Oh...I see
Super Excellent review.
Accursed Satan is alive and seems people of the books have forgotten about him to how deceives people in that matter without knowing it cuz he has so many different ways of doing it . Crealy
Quran has mentioned him in several verses to how he does it..
So no doubt Paul was victimesd by him sadly ...
What about the Satanic verses?
@@johnzuma4688 There are no satanic verses- Zuma do not lie, at the end of the day you will have to stand before God in judgement. Again dont try to fit or find false evidences to support your existing beliefs or dislike for a certain faith. Start with an unbiased and clean slate and then find evidences for or against both Quran and Bible.
@@hashh2019 From Wikipedia >> Satanic Verses refers to words of "satanic suggestion" which the Islamic prophet Muhammad is alleged to have mistaken for divine revelation.[1] The alleged verses can be read in early biographies of Muhammad by al-Wāqidī, Ibn Sa'd and Ibn Ishaq,[2] and the tafsir of al-Tabarī.
@@johnzuma4688 have you ever read the Qur'an? Do you see the scholars that Paul Williams invites to the discussions? Do you see the books he refers to?
Don't just claim he is funded by Saudi money, simply do like Paul does; give the hard evidences in scholarship by the books of highly educated people, and also discussing it with them to the hearing of all who want!
Then, leave your listeners to form their own conclusions.
Being angry that someone has said something that challenges the validity of what you hold onto is in itself proof that you do not want to seek the truth. Disproving what the person has stated through scholarly discourses like Paul does is what will make you credible.
Being able to disprove what he says and establishing what you hold true, will only benefit you!
It is your choice to not take a challenge as an opportunity to seek the truth.
@@mr.smiley6980 I have read the hafs Quran, which Quran did you read? The scholars Paul Williams invites do not change what is written in the Quran. Neither do the books that Paul presents change what is written in the Quran.
I do not care who funds Paul and I doubt that Saudis would fund Paul, but I can see many Muslims sending him money as Paul is a Christophobe and those are generally supported by Muslims. To me Paul is an atheist who has an ax to grind with Christians and found Muslims to be ready source of finance for his crusade.
As I said scholar do not change what is written in the Quran. And in Surah 33:50 we read that Mohammed tells us that his Allah approved of Mohammed having sex with the women he captures in battle and enslaved. As women who are forced to be sex slaves are generally not willing partners this makes it rape and as Mohammed was not married to these slaves it makes it adulterer. So Mohammed tells us that his Allah approved of Mohammed being a rapist and an adulterer. Raping women who have been captured as sex-slaves is evil. Paul Williams and the scholars he presents or the books he reviews do not change this fact. Now you can form your conclusions about Islam on what Paul William presents, I form my conclusions about Islam on what I read in the Quran and the hadiths. And according to Surah 33:50 Mohammed was an evil rapist and adulterer. As far I am aware Paul Williams or any one of his many scholars never challenged this fact presented in the Quran.
And if you refer to Pauls criticism of the Christianity, there are plenty of scholars who show how flawed Pauls conclusions are. You see Paul is rather one-sided in his criticism and only when you also study what the critics of Paul present can you come to a credible conclusion of the issues Paul addresses. And as most issues Paul presents are clearly very one-sided when one has even a little knowledge of Christianity or Islam one quickly rejects Paul as an authority on either. Only people who are ignorant of the facts will be impressed by what he says.
Great work Paul.
You are undermining the foundations of the Christian faith, according to the truth you have learned during your extensive study. Is this your objective?
Not really. My intention is to be objective in the search for the truth - wherever it may lead.
@@BloggingTheology May Allah SWT (God) guides you and me to the truth.
@@faheemahmedumrani1710 actually I need to be in a faith that is more humane and civilised. Muslims tend to forget that’s important.
@@BloggingTheology Truth is humane and civilised. Because truth is beautiful. Please do not equate the current state of Muslims with the faith itself. I pray you and me seek the guidance and truth insha'Allah.
@@faheemahmedumrani1710 for those that can see there much in the Quran and sunnah that encourages a them and us dualism that easily leads to the tribalism we see everywhere with Muslims. I pray God enlightens your mind and heart to the truth.
Apostle Paul says in the Holy Bible:
4 ... the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.
6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us. (2 Corth.4:4-7)
@Aju Wani Friend, please give some specific examples for your allegation for further discussion if you so wish.
Thanks and the peace of God be with you.
@@allanwilliams2079 Thank you brother for sharing these beautiful verses.
The peace of God be with you.
@@allanwilliams2079 Bro ,Muslims have respect for Jesus as a prophet and they read the Bible from a quranic lens. We need to present Jesus as He is revealed to us in the Bible as God incarnate and Saviour of the world and second person of the holy trinity and through friendship or dialogue convey to our Muslim friends how we came to Christ and became a new creation in Hìm, and he is still transforming us into his perfect image. Jesus is our role model and we are his disciples.
@@allanwilliams2079You fit God in your image of a man. Since Man reproduces you think God should reproduce and that too in the same manner.
The music in the beginning is so pretty 😍😍
Just listening about the Christian Testaments hurts my brain
Was Greek the language of Jesus? Where did the Greek text come from if no? If scholars are correct about the gospels being composed 2-3 hundred years after the death of Jesus then how could the claimed authors managed to write then after their death? One last question, being so similar in narrative and predated Jesus is the Egyptian story a future telling of jesus?
Great work, Light spirited thanks and take care.
Really enjoying your videos sir. Keep up the great work.
Moving beyond whether 2 Peter is a forgery, did the authors (Wright & Bird) find any false claims that were spoken by the writer. In other words, what things in 2 Peter are false? As far as the writer referring to Yehowshuwa as elohey, Yowchanan (John) 10: 34, 35 says that Yehowshuwa quoted Psalm 82: 6 wherein YHVH called men - elohiym (gods).
Yes, the claim in the letter that the author is the apostle Peter is false.
So you believe the writer/s of the new book ?
I feel like I m sitting in class room of my college ,in a good way
R u a professor
Summary, quote Bart - Only authors of 6 books of the New Testament are known, and these are from Paul.
So who wrote the Quran?
@@johnzuma4688 It was dictated from a single source. Atleast we know the source.
There is not one scholar who rejects 2 Peter with any proof. It is important to remember that the Apostles oversaw the collection of the New Testament in the 1st century rather than the 4th century (Paul spoke of Scripture in 1 Timothy 5:18, Luke also mentioned previous written narratives by the Apostles in Luke 1: 1-3).
In addition to this, the scriptures mentioned by the Apostle John, which were written by John and his fellow witnessing Apostles in 1 John 1:1-4.
Such writings were read in the Assembly (Colossians 4:16). These New Testament scriptures were a part of the reading that Timothy was told to give attention to (1 Timothy 4:12-13). These new scriptures included what Timothy was reading from a young child (2 Timothy 3:15).
Paul wrote of these New Testament scriptures in 2 Timothy 3:16-17. Clearly, the Apostles collection was foreseen to contain completion every good work, and 2 Peter was never rejected.
Remember also that Clement (an overseeing elder of the Church in Rome referred to 2 Peter 3:4 as 'the scripture' in his letter to the Corinthians. Clement wrote his letter before the destruction of the temple in 70 AD. Clearly, Clement bears witness to the existence and character of the letter of 2 Peter showing that 2 Peter is authentic.
MashAllah keep it up Paul
I think John the baptist was is known as Yahya in Islam? Am I correct or not? Jesus ISA had cousin from Zakariah...is this the same person or thought to be... Have you watched a movie called Book of Eli?
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Try to stay with TRUTH ALWAYS...
This is interesting.... I came to question the authenticity of the letter because it is the only supposed confirmation of Saul/Paul and I had to look into this.... than I came across the Morning Star verse snd looked into the greek.... and it is a very different word than used in Revelation for bight morning star... and for my taste much to close to the word used in the septuagint for a description of the evil one cast down from heaven.... it seemed to me as if that was a fingerprint by the accuser so he may rise in our hearts even though we want to follow Yeshuas teachings.