r/Bestof My Dad Saved Me from a Cult!
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0:00 Intro
0:09 Cult parents
7:52 Lying stalker wife
14:51 Top comment
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He doesn’t want a divorce because you, “lied about how you met” or “Chinese food.” He freaked out because he realized he was married to a MASSIVE manipulator who staked him and manipulated multiple people to get what she wanted. That’s messed up behavior.
every single one does manipulate of colorizes the reality so the other people like you more. She did too much, just that. Every single effort that you normally don't do on your own is a technique of manipulation, to sell yourself better. Why she i suddenly worse than all as she decided to be honest idk
@@user-ut3jk7it6cbroski she stalked him to figure out everything he likes and dislikes so she can seem to be the perfect woman for him when she's actually a weirdo who would do anything to get what she wants
@@user-ut3jk7it6c I’ll think you find that most people! are not crazy enough to carefully develop relationships with someone’s family members over years and make major life decisions and keep detailed notes on other people’s schedules in order to date someone. life is not a dating sim my dude
@@user-ut3jk7it6c Because Op only confessed because her possibly ex husband found her old phone that had everything on it as stated in the post. If she was genuinely going to confess Op would have done so a long time ago.
@@Salore. so? I read the comment and you all cannot decide whether to tell him asap or remain eternally silent. Also, stalked? She just arranged series of events and encounters to increase and maximize success probability. Look at yourself and think what small and big things you do to get what you want.
Maybe they should have called CPS to get the step siblings. Those kids are about to get their lives ruined if they stay there.
Considering that she and stepdad went off the grid after her last call to op, it would be hard and almost impossible to save them if they can’t find the compound.
There's not a lot CPS can do. Because it's probably a religious organization. And what religions can get away with in the United States is beyond shocking. Just look up the gothard method for raising children. It's terrifying. And CPS cannot do anything when it is going on in a household because it's a religious principle. They will literally whip infants with stretched out glue sticks. Honestly call CPS so at least there's a file open. But little to nothing will be done. It's terrifying what religions get away with.
CPS would likely just ask some questions and if the kids seemed fine, sadly nothing would be done without some sort of proof they are in danger.
@@The_Keh27 unfortunately true. Unless there's evidence of physical or emotional abuse they won't do anything.
@@kaykay8855 I'm going to be honest with you if somebody who used to work with child protective services. But got discussed with it because of the gold being reunification. Went back to school and got her PhD and is doing something else. They couldn't do much even if there was signs of physical and mental abuse. Because of religious freedom. They would simply claim this is the religion and CPS would have a really hard fight on their hands to pull those kids out of that house.
That second story... Imagine deluding yourself so hard to think that your soon to be ex husband "never loved you" just so you feel better about stalking him. GOD.
I actually thought, like, yea he never _did_ love her because how could he? He fell in love with the person she pretended to be. The first time he got to see the person she really is was when she opened up about the stalking.
@@augustaseptemberova5664 I'm very confused by people's reactions to this. Is it just that people are assuming she's not being honest about shared interests? Cause taken at face value, it seems like almost all of what she did was engineer time they would be together and gather info about him. I suppose maybe the second could be creepy, except she did it through talking with his family rather than spying on him directly. Maybe I'm missing something but I think everyone's overreacting to this.
Edit: I guess the age at which she started was a factor, but it also sounds like no one did anything inappropriate. They weren't in a relationship when he was her coach, or when she was underage.
@@flibbernodgets7018plain and simple. It was shady and potentially manipulative. This took YEARS to accomplish. It wasn't love it was calculated obsession. The end of this story is also a bit fishy. A lot of red flags pop up when you deflect blame like this. You also have to understand we're hearing the story from the perspective of the potential manipulator. There could be a lot of things kept from us regarding this story which is what it sounds like. She didn't once think about how he felt about all this. Saying he probably exaggerated is a red flag too. Narcissistic behavior. He dodged a bullet by not having kids with her.
@@xenobyteedm9761 that makes sense, thank you
@@flibbernodgets7018 no problem
Yeah that second story... She was a complete stalker for getting with him... That sort of thing should've been taken to your grave.
Exactly what I was thinking. Your weird stalking behaviour somehow got you where you wanted, nothing good was gonna come from that confession. Other than the ex seeing her true colors but that came with the biggest heartbreak.
@@RisingRevengeance The craziest thing to me is how quick she seemed to get over it all. "I might update this post when I find a new husband." I think she purposely sabotaged the relationship. She finally got over her obsession with him so told him the truth hoping this would happen so she could move on to a new obsession.
She thought it was a Sitcom too
@@wingracer1614 I didn't think about that... it does seem possible given what she's done.
This is actually a repeat story. I'm pretty sure R/Slash read that one last month.
The second story was very disturbing and terrifying for the husband but what makes it more creeoy is the fact that OP's last statement was about "finding a new husband". I mean you found out that your husband is divorcing you because of your crazy stalker stunts and your first reaction is blaming HIM and thinking about A NEW HUSBAND?? She thinks of her husband like an achievement, a trophy for her delusional "hardwork" into building a fake relationship with a man. This person needs to be admitted in sime psych ward.
She might not need a psych ward. She does have some signs of psychopathy (extremely calculative behaviour and signs of weak empathy) and I think working with a professional would do her good. She doesn't really seem to be at high risk to cause harm other than emotional/social harm. If she got some help with social skills and well, not empathy as she doesn't seem to have a good capasity for it, but a model to help her figure out reasonings behind others' behaviour.🤔
Yep
Second story: if a man did this, we would absolutely call him out as a pervy stalker. And reading her narrative, she can't even be honest with herself and with the reader, because she switches her story back and forth to suit the moment. This is either fiction, or this lady is a compulsive liar.
For the sake of the people involved I'd like to believe it's fake, but I will never be surprised by the absolute delusion people can fall into, and the events of this story is definitely something that someone in this world has experienced or is experiencing.
Ya, I'd try to run too. She literally stalked him and then tries to make it out that _he_ doesn't love _her_ when it's pretty much the other way around. She views him almost like a video game character, where she can just 'seduce him' and have the happily ever after, instead of a real person, with real feelings, who'd feel used and betrayed by OP. He's probably thankful OP didn't somehow convince him to have a kid.
Hope she doesn't stalk her NEXT 'love' as well.
What I find shockingly hilarious is that people actually believe in happenstance and disney princess fictional BS, among other things like soul mate or finding "the one".
Totally agree. She was all ‘should I tell him? *innocent eyes*’ And then it was ‘I felt like I should tell him because I suspected he had already found out some of it and, from a manipulation perspective, it was better to be seen as voluntarily honest about it than being ‘found out’ about it.
Nasty-ass manipulation.
Usually a woman and a man are of ages such that the man is older so you have to try if you can and imagine a 14yo boy trying to get with an 18yo girl for the genders to swap but not the age.
First Story: Yo this 100% sounds like a cult and I really hope OP gets out of this situatuon. OP's mom and step-dad sound insane. I’m glad OP's friend's parents have been so helpful with OP and giving them a place to stay away from these people. I hope OP's dad get that emergency custody (and hopefully full custody) and I hope OP siblings get out of this as well. I feel so sorry for this step-siblings, these two are insane especially OP's mom. What does she mean OP "corrupted her womb"? Honestly, OP's mom is a terrible woman and mother to try and force her cult beliefs onto her kids and insult OP like that
Second Story: So basically OP stalked her current boyfriend, used his brother to get closer to him, and never told him the real reason to how she knew him? This is creepy af. OP is giving off the vibe that she feels like this is no big deal. This honestly would’ve been a deal breaker for me because of the fact that OP kept this from him and his brother and mom for years. Lmao what? OP feels betrayed? What a joke, this woman kept this creepy ass secret for years and is so uncaring about it. OP IS crazy
Comment: Facts
Third Story: I’m not a lawyer but I don’t think this lady will win this lawsuit because she allowed her child to trespass on OP's property even when told not to multiple times. Lmao, not only did this lady fail to sue she got arrested for abuse and child endangerment
NOTHING WRONG WITH ME
Y the caps?
2nd story: why is op surprised pikachu faced that her EX-husband wants a divorce? she lied to him! hope he finds someone better
If a group or community tells you to cut yourself away from family, friends, certain technological devices, books, any form of academics, or even society as a whole, it's a cult. The whole reason for telling you to stay away from something is to prevent you from being informed of the wrongdoings of the cult. It's also to deter you from escaping or being rescued.
If you realize what's going on and leave, you'll have nowhere to go since you don't have anyone else outside of the cult. You either have to go back to them or end up moneyless/homeless. If you can get some form of help, you'll have to start over from scratch.
@@yabe-kfptentacultistbecause she’s crazy and thinks what she did was normal
Story 1: Holy hell, that compound is 100% a cult. His dad, and his friend's parents are absolute MVPs for standing by and helping OP, and preventing the mom from taking OP by force. Good to hear OP is now in the care of his dad. Honestly, the mom is like a very religious Karen who took things way too far.
I just feel so sorry for OP that his mom rejected him like that, and that he's going to have to deal with that the rest of his life. I mean I'm GLAD that she did in the long run, but that's going to take all the therapy in the world to get over :(
i'm glad op made it out, but now i'm worried for the step siblings...
edit: oops, forgot op's sister
@@yabe-kfptentacultistI think the 15-y/o sis is safe with HER dad, too. Or were you adding sis into the 'glad is safe' part?
Someone make some calls to the letter departments, as long as it's not the ATF 💀
@@errantwinds-up8uu I feel the same way. Usually, it's the person who takes the trash out, not the other way around. Good riddence to that insane egg donor. I just hope the step-siblings would come to their senses and escape that evil group, but that may be just wishful thinking on my part.
I'm honestly stunned at how poorly the stalker wife sold her story like wow that was maybe the worst way to say it. Could have said like idk "you know how you met me when I was 17? Well I actually met you when I was 14, and I thought it was love at first sight even back then. I tried my my best to meet you again and I'm glad it all worked out" like this still extremely weird but it's an "oh yeah I was kind of a strange kid" weird and not "hey I actually manipulated my way into your life" weird
Maybe I'm also a weirdo for thinking "How could a manipulative freak have manipulated better" but idk it's just what came to mind
@@shybandit521no it also caught my attention how she showed him the Reddit post instead of just being like “yeah, you were on my radar before I was on yours”. Like, I’m glad her ego was so big that she revealed the truth so her husband was able to get away but also, it is sort of weird that she spent all that time and effort scheming her way into his life just to throw it all away 15 years later. I guess I’m those 10 years of marriage she had just normalized it to herself so much that she didn’t think it was insane behavior anymore? Idk it’s just really weird all around
@@shybandit521though it was over 10 years ago, so why would it matter how she phrased it? People change in less time and she would have completely different traits then her teenage self. The husband lost out big time.
@@shannawelch563but why would it matter what she did 15 years ago? Unless she did some hanenous like kill his dog or the like sure, but scheming to be close to her crush? No one was hurt in the slightest.
@@stunfire nah she completely manipulated her life to fit into his like a glove when she hadn’t really gotten to know him yet. Everything that man knows about his wife is a lie, it’s questionable if he even really does know her given that she changed so much of her personality to get him in the first place. She’s absolutely unhinged in the post and we, as the audience, can assume that she’s writing about herself in a generous way. She doesn’t even seem to realize how crazy she’s coming off and, to me, shows that she’s probably more unhinged irl. I don’t think any reasonable person could move on from that knowledge
In the words of one of my favorite podcasts
“You’re in a cult, call your dad!”
What podcast is this?
@@redrasegarden My Favorite Murder
SSDGM!
Right? I said it out loud near the beginning of the story and my husband was *very* confused, lol
@@Hybrid301 ty
Story 2: I'll always find it funny how the OP thought the husband exaggerated to make her sound crazy, no lady, the stalking and lying made you sound crazy.
It was 15 years ago, you are going to have to exaggerate to make most things matter from that long ago.
@@stunfirestop defending her. as someone who had a stalker in high school, she’s absolutely a stalker and deserved to be divorced by her husband.
@@sosansational I'd rather not undermind your experience being stalked by calling what she did stalking.
This was a heavy one between the borderline kidnapping cult and the delusional stalker I'm quite shaken and that ain't easy.
And then a horse nearly killed a child. What a ride!
He actually read a far worse story a couple days ago. It was from an actual stalking victim who managed to narrowly escape a man who she didn't even know was stalking her. He also had journals and what he wrote in them were the stuff of nightmare and very nauseating. I hope that guy and this OP find each other because they deserve each other 😆😆😆
@@fanfictiondreamer7836 yeah, that one is hard to forget.
@@fanfictiondreamer7836 OMG, I remember that one. Like the other stalker was different level kinda creep
@@ifoundhisjams4075 I know, it's nightmare fuel to be sure
That story where she stalked her husband until they got together made me almost as speechless as the stalker with the diary from a couple videos ago
I think this one is a bit worse cause she succeeded in her plans until she came clean.
WTF you guys are mental. The diary one was so so so much worse. This one is a silly 14 year old doing silly 14 year old things, that one was a psychotic grown man who relentlessly stalked his co-worker, eavesdropped on her conversations, etc.
The worst thing this girl did was begin a friendship with ulterior motives. That's pretty shitty. But at 15, I can understand someone doing that. To throw away a 7 year relationship because your wife had a big crush on you for a few years before you really knew her? That's a bit fucked, imo.
@@Dragonmaster0118both of them are creepy. But the man 's diary was worse. Not because he's a man but because he literally came to kidnap her. With like chains and zip ties and the police were involved. Absolutely nothing in the situation and not because she's a woman would have necessitated law enforcement getting involved. That's why that was worse. Both of them are wrong. Both of them are creepy. Both of them need lots of therapy. But only one of them necessitated law enforcement. So the one that necessitated law enforcement and is actually in jail is much worse.
So I just wanted to join in and say, about story 1: this sounds similar to a recent murder case. The one about Lori Vallow. Lori went religiously mad a few years ago, very similarly to the mother in story 1. Lori had her brother kill her husband, then ran away with her secret lover who she then married. Shortly after that, her son and daughter disappeared. It turns out Lori killed her children because they were “evil” and she buried them on her new husbands property. She just went to trial recently. I remember seeing videos of her talking about them like they’re actual demons. It was horrifying.
Basically, I’m VERY glad OP got out without too much damage.
I'm so glad someone pointed this out, because it reminded me of that so much as well
Second story, I feel so bad for the husband. All those years of happiness, all a lie from a psychotic selfish person. but OP is 100% correct when she said she deserved it. But no one deserves to have her in their life.
I feel bad that he let himself get psyched out over a young teenage girl's crush. The worse thing she did was when she was 14! 14! Say it with me, 14.
Bruh u Americans like to overexaggerate every small thing...and that's the reason y'all got such a high divorce rate...like divorcing fr having a crush on ur husband and keeping it a secret...(it's not like she cheated or abused him)..they're both happy couple and that's what mattered most...but y'all overexaggerate concious couldn't see past such small issue
@@casper8849 you the op in that story or something, cause no sane person could ever think what she did was okay.
@@megumi_stone7081 except the ones with the most basic forms of logic.
@@stunfire you seem to be the one without basic forms of logic, this girl stalked him, and she befriended his little brother JUST to get info on him and get closer, genuinely she cares about no one but herself.
Story 1: People talk about how signs of an abusive relationship include isolation. Yeah, this post is more about a cult, but the same thing is happening here as well since OP's mom and step-dad are thinking of pulling OP and the sister from school and separate them from their peers, only to bring them to some sort of cult-like place.
I'm glad that OP's dad did manage to get OP and the sister out of there. I hope the step-siblings didn't suffer badly, they don't deserve a cult life
Not sure if you've ever heard of him. But Steve Hassan says that an abusive relationship is just a cult of two people. A lot of the similar tactics are used in both situations.
I agree. I hope this step siblings don't suffer too much, but let's be honest, we all know what they're in for. And it's nothing good. And unfortunately CPS has their hands tied when it comes to anything. That's a religious organization. Just look at the gothard method for raising children. They literally will encourage you to stretch out glue sticks and whip infants with it . Method is used exclusively by evangelicals. Not saying all evangelicals. I'm just saying if they use it their evangelical. Because it has such religious connotations CPS has its hands tied because of " religious freedoms". And don't worry, the Republican party who's here to protect the children. Will make sure that priests are never made as mandated reporters. Considering they've stopped it in about every state and on a federal level.
Cults often isolate from the rest of the world. YA author Fleur Beale wrote a trilogy of books called "I Am Not Esther", "I Am Rebecca" and "Being Magdelene" with a view of a fictional Christian cult with one family through the eyes of a cousin whose mother defected and then sent her daughter to live with her brother, one of the elder daughters, and the second-youngest daughter, all of who eventually get out. The cousin helps the eldest when he is expelled from the cult, the elder daughter runs away when they try to force her to marry the seventy-six-year-old leader of the cult when she's only sixteen, and the second-youngest and youngest run away together out of fear for their own safety due to the leader's increasingly unhinged behaviour. It is pointed out that there is good stuff in the cult - one woman states her parents haven't left because they remember how people used to love and support each other and people could leave if they wanted to, without being cut off (in most cases, people who leave or are cast out are considered dead). But the cult is also shown to be dangerous and intolerant. They keep the children so ignorant of everything. The fourteen-year-olds don't know anything about periods, even though they should have got them by now.
Second story: i don't think OP did anything majorly wrong at the beginning of this whole story. She was fourteen, saw this guy, got a crush for him and became kind of obsessed with him. We all did stupid things as teenagers because of a crush, including searching all of their social media, trying to get close to them in all the possible (and often awkward) ways, become detectives to find what they like and dislike, etc.
The thing that feels weird is that this obsessive crush never stopped and instead kept going for years, to the point where it feels like OP never truly loved her husband but just stayed fixated on him. If i were him i would ask for a divorce and possibly a restraining order.
i was afraid you were gonna say she did nothing wrong lol
I don’t even necessarily think OP becoming friends with his brother at first to get close to him and wearing cute outfits when he was home was a bad thing. But the whole “I only STAYED friends with his brother to know him,” “I found out about his likes and dislikes from his mom,” and “I decided what college to go to based on what job he got” is where it got really weird.
right ??? like, if I REALLY stretch to give the benefit of the doubt here, I can see a teenager obsessed to the point of making a little ‘plan’ to try and win over a boy. but then, why would you feel the need to intentionally ‘stay’ friends with the younger brother? how did it just never become a true friendship? if she cared about the mom, why only refer to her as a source of intel? if she ACTUALLY loved this dude, why would it even occur to you to say any of this - unless there’s no care here at all, and you just consider this some kind of weird achievement and this guy a shiny prize that you obtained ??
update: OP needs to get help fr. she had no remorse about what she did even seeing his reaction, even then her thought was ‘I did all this work for this?’ OP for sure did not love her husband, I might even go so far as to say that I don’t think she can care for others at all.
considering this was definitely told by her in a more flattering light, I hate to think what actually happened here.
@@briannad9155tbh waiting a whole ass year and making a campaign just to befriend someone just to get in their siblings pants is psycho behavior.
Like borderline sociopathic, and we can't dismissive the behavior from her youth because it's relevant and not normal behavior
This is honestly the most balanced take I've seen on that story. Literally everybody is shitting on OP and callering her delusional, crazy, psychotic, etc. She's just misguided and possibly emotionally immature. That doesn't make the relationship she had unreal.
*First OP:* I'm glad OP and their sister managed to escape from the cult. Shoutouts to OP's and their sister's dads and OP's friend and her parents. I can only hope OP's step-siblings will get out eventually, too.
*Second OP:* I remember Joanne Goldberg! 😛 That story was wild. I liked how OP's husband handled the bombshell.
OP's dad on story 1 is a hero !! Same as OP's uncle, OP's friends and the friends' parents.. The mom and the stepdad (AND the cult!!) are NUTS, mostly the delusional mentally ill mom!! I feel deeply sad and bad for the siblings, but.. we all know what will happen😔..
Omg the second story, i remember that.. And OP is CREEPY AF! I think she need a reality check ASAP, we need to call the police on her or something..I feel bad for the (ex) husband, he deserves better than a huge narcissistic creep like OP
The moment when she wrote "I knew I want him" I was disgust, he is a person not a toy.
She also hinted that she's going to try this again with another man. Poor guy, I wish that dude a lot of luch with dealing with her.
@@dominikabanas6700 and the "I guess he never loved me" part.. That reminds me of the "nice guys/girls" because of how scary and delusional they can be. But exactly, people are not toys!
@@fanfictiondreamer7836 Imagine OP will tell her New boyfriend about what she did, or if she will do exactly the same thing when she'll have a crush on a man. I have a bad feeling that she will be like this again
Good lord, that first story... I feel so bad for OP but even worse for his siblings. That's terrible.
Those poor step kids…their life is over.
Story One: The difference between spirituality/religious belief and a cult is always about choice. I am not an expert, but many religions and spiritual practices promote freedom of choice and self-actualization. You take on practices because it's what you WANT to do in order to be a better person, you teach others about such practices by modeling them as an example and if others CHOOSE to be part of that, then they are welcome to do so. You never force anyone into believing your ideology, never shame them, never threaten, and never force them to stay. My mom and grandparents have always had firm Christian beliefs, but never once tried to force me to believe, they let me ask questions, and let me disagree with them. I've found great spirituality in Buddhism, and it has made me so happy, but I arrived there on my own, not by being isolated or indoctrinated.
Story Two: Female Joe Goldberg! I was questioning why she suddenly felt the need to admit to her husband why she stalked and manipulated her way into being his wife, like what changed to make her feel guilty? Then she admits that she doesn't feel bad about what she did, just that she was trying to save face from him potentially finding out on his own. She is either a psychopath, a narcissist, or just straight up delusional, but I'm glad her husband ran!
Second story : Christ, the Red flags became more and more crimson after each updates.
The way she said "All this work for nothing", she admitted herself she schemed all this like a psycho.
Not a red flag anymore, shit is straight up jet black
Story 2... it's as they say: you aren't sorry you did it, you're sorry you got caught. She only told him because she thought he was figuring it out, not because she felt any sort of guilt about how she used his brother or fabricated their relationship.
Story 3: Classic Karen behavior. Does something stupid, nearly suffers immediate consequences for it, and then deflects blame on the other person. Glad she got arrested and the kids aren't with her anymore, because what the peck was she thinking?
She saw dollar signs and stopped thinking.
I wonder if she has life insurance on her kids, or she was hoping the horse would kill the kid, and she'd rake in the money. Horses are HUGE. Even if you don't understand their behavior, you should fear their size. She was up to something.
@@mbyerly9680 Exactly. "Honey, go play with the horse I just poked. I'm sure it's friendly."
She should have been charged with trespassing and animal cruelty and endangerment as well as all that other stuff.
Good on Ops dad on saving Op in the first story, that woman and the step father is absolutely crazy.
How could she NOT come off as psycho??? She stalked her husband and used his younger brother to do it. I wouldn't want anything to do with her either
Literally! I'm sitting here wondering what she thinks 'exaggerated' story he would need to tell to make her 'seem crazy' like lady cmon
Second story. Yeah, OP is showing some strong stalker vibes. I can't blame the husband's reaction.
I absolutely can! She was a kid with a crush. Unless she's lying about all that she did, not only did she do nothing wrong, it should have been seen as a positive!
@@stunfireImagine if it was a guy behaving like that towards a woman.
@@KingHayabusa384 Then we might consider a power difference, and that would be worth considering. However, my conclusion would still be the same.
@@stunfireI am baffled by your logic
@@MrDoverfield And I'm trying to find anyone else's logic, but there has yet to be any.
Second story: my husband noticed me in our orchestra class about 6 months before i met him. He tried to talk to me (apparently i didnt notice, awkward) and he saw some of my fandom jackets and would hear me talk about doctor who and the walking dead and started watching those shows so he could talk to me about them. This is what a normal person does when they want to get to know their crush. Not 3 years of manipulation and basically stalking. Geez
Edit: He ended up liking both of the shows, and he told me this after a few months of dating. He just wanted an icebreaker because he thought I was too cool for him. We were in the same class and he ate lunch in the same group as me, he didn't stalk me 😅
There is absolutely no difference other than the time it took.
And if your husband didn't even like these fandoms, he actually faked himself more than the girl in the story!
If you think 2nd OP is a Stalker, so is your husband~
The girl became a boys friend with false intentions, your husband picked up hobbies just to have something to talk to you about. Sounds like both being lies of omission. Do you think you would of still been interested in him if he said "oh I watched those just so I could talk to you about them"? It's possible, but still.
@@Robin93k There’s a MASSIVE difference between these two stories! One is about a woman manipulating her crush’s family into liking her and learn every facet of his life, then lying about it for years to be with him. The other is a guy seeing a girl he liked, happened to notice a couple shows she likes, and watched them so he had an ice-breaker to get to know her better. How can you not see the difference? I got to know my wife because I noticed she was wearing a Pokémon mask (during Covid) and used that as an ice-breaker. It’s just basic social interaction.
Between the cult story and the stalker story, I have no idea which is crazier
yes.
How?! What? That's concerning.
The cult. The cult is more concerning. Both are insane. Both are obviously individuals who need lots of psychological help. But the cult is more concerning. Those children in the story that went to that compound or 100% sure going to be the victims of sexual assault. Because that's what every called set up to. Do. You name it? It's about controlling sex. And a lot of times it's about having sex with minors. And using some sort of perverted logic in order to achieve said sex. So the cult is more dangerous. Neither of them are great. Neither of them. But the cult is worse.
Third story: This could be the boldest lawsuit fraud case I ever heard. She made her kid trespass, where was a dangerous animal, that she knew was there before hand, and was warned to not trespass, and neglected the kid. The whole time the kid was jumping the fence she had dollar signs on her eyes in anticipation.
No lawyer anywhere would have represented the mother unless she radically misrepresented the facts to them. But do keep in mind that in LegalAdvice, you only get one side of the story. There could be more, and any responses have to be made in consideration of that fact. The actual lawyers there don't really respond with much advice at all, but they do ask a lot of questions. That's where they're helpful.
OP did screw up. They should have called the police the first time it happened. Even if no charges were brought, that documentation is worth its weight in gold. Livestock, including horses are a major liability, so you want to do everything by the book. I'm sure their insurance rates are astronomical now.
The only advice they could offer legitimately is:
• Make sure the property is clearly posted, as per state law.
• Make sure there is an adequate fence in good repair separating the livestock from people.
• Install cameras
• Report ALL incidents of trespassing to police.
• Make sure veterinary medications are secure under lock and key. Lots of junkies trespass because those meds can get you high, are poorly regulated, and often stored insecurely in outbuildings.
• If served with any type of lawsuit, seek a lawyer immediately and always respond in a timely fashion. Never miss a court date or filing date.
• If any incident occurs, report it to your insurance immediately, even if no claims are filed. Let them hear from you first.
So glad that second story didn't have a happy ending. I was really worried we'd be steered towards rooting for her, but she's so f*cking creepy.
What?! How? I really didn't listen to the same story apparently.
@@stunfire we get it, you’re a troll pretending that creepy behavior is normal
It did have a happy ending.
The husband escaped from the clutches of a lunatic stalker - that should make everyone happy.
Last story: I'm not surprised by the update at all, all you needed proof that she would trespassing and it's an open-and-shut case. And once again this is why stupid people can commit crimes, and you should never commit more than one crime at a time, along with staying low. I hope those poor kids never have to see their mom again.
First story: I always ask where we are going if they ask me to go somewhere, but if I was in OP's place, it would be the moment to yell abuse, call the police and defend myself with any weapon I can get because if my parents are like this it means I lost who I can trust.
Edit: Seriously, posts like these justify kids unaliving their parents for their own safety.
Same, I'd just wait until the parents were asleep and then *do something (i dont think yt will let me say but it rhymes with crab) so they'd have to call for an ambulance. Sure you'd be arrested but you'd probably get off lightly and bring light to this cult
Story 2: OP you are a psycho, you stalked guy for 3 years, uses brother to get closer to him, and followed him to New York. Love ain't got nothing to do with it your entire relationship is a sadistic why you orchestrated for your own sake, not even your sugar-coated Virgin of this event was enough to make you look innocent.
Jesus, you make it sound like she killed his dog or something. Are you letting the first story influence the impression of the second? Goodness, God forbid a young teenage girl has a crush
@@stunfire While I will agree that she is not quite as evil as some in the comments are making her out to be, if you find this behavior acceptable and romantic, please, please, i beg you please put down the trashy romance novels and do a LOT of maturing before getting into any serious relationships yourself. This is not love, this is not romance, this is obsession and co-dependence.
@wingracer1614 That's a significant insult that you have no bases for, but I won't respond in kind cause I want to know how y'all got this so damn twisted. Literally none of you had a crush before, not one. Befriending someone to learn about a crush and trying to get more oppunities to interact with them is about as basic as you can get. God forbid she does anything to get closer to him.
It's not the crush part that people are upset about. It's the lying, manipulation, faking a friendship, stalking online to get a person's likes and then bringing them to in conversation like you liked them too, milking the mom for secret information, making notes on your phone of how to manipulate him, stalking a guy to find out where he's going to work and then secretly moving there to be next to him. All the while never telling him an ounce of the truth until they were friggen married???
Hell no. That's not a crush. That's sick behavior. And her reaction that he betrayed her because he went to family for support and once amongst sane people he realized he wanted a divorce says everything about how she's not a healthy person at all and never grew out of her creep behavior.
@@stunfire What is insulting? I made no insults. If something I said seems insulting, it makes me think that you find something I said about her also pertains to you. If you can't see what is wrong with her words and actions and find criticism of them insulting, that is your problem
Story 2: And here I was, thinking that me staying over at my now-husband's dorm room for a week to drop hints that I liked him was the creepiest thing I could've done. Nope!
Big Lori Daybell energy from the mom in the first story. Definitely try to get the step siblings out too, if you can
That's probably not going to happen. There is no parent on the outside to take custody of them. It even sounds like that uncle he stayed with was probably his dad's brother so he's no help for the step siblings.
2nd story OP is terrifying. I would have left my partner too. I feel so bad for the brother too. Imagine finding out your "best friend" befriended you to get close to your sibling...
The second story is exactly like the book/show YOU. Joe stalked the girl, stole her phone to look through her social media accounts, and befriended her friends to get close to her.
Except she didn't steal his phone? Y'all overreacting to all hell and back.
Second story: That marriage was bound for failure. If she can manipulate him that much before they were married, imagine how bad she would have been after they had been married for a while.
She put herself in the right place to interact with him. That's it. That's it. And that's it.
@@stunfire obviously there are some people who disagree with you, including the most important person, her husband.
The first story reminded me of the cult I barely escaped. I can say op is gonna be fine, once they accept their mother's truly dead. They even saved one more life on the way.
Op u would've been hurt, starved, and garentee to be badly touched. Glad you have a real chance now.
That poor man. Imagine finding out the person you loved was a pique manipulator who's been playing the long con for _years._ Every perceived certainty in life would be utterly shattered.
I can't believe she feels like _she's_ the victim and can't comprehend how creepy she is. Not was. *Is.*
I wouldn't be surprised if his trust in women is absolutely DESTROYED now thanks to this psycho. Poor dude.
You know what is really creepy about the stalker story, is the mom literally gushing on and on about her son to her youngest son’s friend, OP, to the point she knew his exes’ names before he “met” her. Like TMI much??
Pray for those 3 kids... even if you don't believe in anything pray to something for those kids.... wow
um well, those 1st 2 stories were incredibly disturbing and definitely made me uncomfortable just listening to them
I love how the first 2 stories were just intense craziness, and then theres just... a karen. doin karen stuff
Story 1 had me on edge. Also to work off the moms meditation. OPs gaurdian angel/spirit was looking after them. Holy hell that being was working overtime to keep them safe
no kidding
The second story could have ended differently with just one piece of advice: Don’t ask questions you do not want to know the answer to!
I'm still trying to figure out why OP's dad didn't pick up the phone call unless OP's "Mom" somehow blocked the number and that the only way OP got into touch with their dad was while at OP's friend's house. I am hoping that the rest of their siblings will be okay.
Phone was disconnected, so would have gone straight to voicemail/dialtone like it was blocked/off
The only smart thing OP did in the second story was tell her soon to be ex that she's pretty crazy. Imagine setting up a huge plan to make someone fall in love with you. That's some pretty scary stuff right there. Though I wonder how she found out? Did he say something to her after he told the story or was it one of the family members? I kind of want to hear from one of them and if the story was the same or not.
She made friends with the step brother to hang out with the older brother, and she went a college close to her work. Which of these two things says creepy to you?
@@stunfireMaybe the part where she was already stalking him for 3 years, and only did both of those things to insert herself into every part of his life?
@Arianainthedark Every part? Quit exaggerating. Shy teenage girl who wanted to hang out with her crush, and a young adult you wanted to more of a chance with him. We don't know neeeeeeeeeeeeeearly enough to conclude literally anything bad about what she did. Who knows? Maybe she sought her out after going to college?
@@stunfire Exactly. All we know is in the post. I don't have to exaggerate because OP literally told us. It says in the post, that she herself wrote mind you, that she found out where he got a job offer and applied to the college closest to his workplace. And this was after monitoring all of his social media profiles, befriending his brother and mother to get to him, and coincidentally playing a sport that he spent a lot of time volunteer coaching. She only did any of that with the laser focus of getting with him. And she admitted it. The only one exaggerating is you, cause you can't understand why no one agrees with you.
@Arianainthedark 1. She was already close to him, so where he was going to work was well within easy reach to know 2. She said she's been doing the sport far before he began to coach 3. Keeping up on social media means literally nothing and 4. Making friends to get closer to your crush is one of if not thee most common things literally anyone does when wanting to presue someone romantically. You are the first one to even attempt to put up an argument, and I don't care who agrees or disagrees, only the truth. So far, y'all are still making MASSIVE mountains out of mole hills.
I'm bawling listening to the first story. Cults are one of the absolute worst thing that can happens to your life. You're stuck in a perpetual mourning of alive people who were once your entire world. One day everything is happy and quiet, the other day all your life is spiraling in a nightmare. I'm glad Op and the sister were able to escape that. I'm so sad for the other childs. There need to be more funds toward demanteling those cults, theses are one of the worst things in the world.
Ngl, if someone went through that much effort to be with me, I'd be flattered. What I don't like is the lying for YEARS.
The worse thing she did was befriend the younger brother to be invited to the house, yes, not cool, but that was half a year, and she didn't hurt the younger brother and I'm pretty sure remained the boys friend throughout. The second thing was... what? Finding out where he was going to work so she could pretend to of be going there anyway? One lie, not a single person even remotely effected. So that might be, at most, 2 years of harmless, even mutually beneficial, lying, set against 10 so years of happy relationship and marriage.
@@stunfire Agreed. Which makes me think there's A LOT she left out of the story (what was on that old phone anyway?). Either that, or her *former* hubby is the wilting violet.
@SunGawdRa See, I think that's the most fair conclusion, honestly.
The entire time with story 2 I was thinking girl you have to take this to the grave. There is no universe where that confession was gonna go well. I just feel bad for the husband.
Yep but if she never tells him, she's stuck with him forever. She sabotaged the relationship so she could go get a new trophy husband now while she's still young and pretty enough to pull it off.
Story #3 bothers me a lot. I own a horse and cannot afford my own property for her so she's boarded at a stables. I work there doing chores 3 days a week as a second job too. My mare is sweet and kind and very non reactive but she's a big girl with her breeding being half draft horse. She loves belly scritches but I will not allow anyone but myself and the horse people I trust to give her those belly scritches because in an effort to make them more satisfying for herself she WILL full on drop her entire body on you.
She's not mean, she's not TRYING to hurt anyone, she's not even being a brat, but she could SERIOUSLY harm someone who doesn't know how to read body language. Hell she's stepped on my foot, pinning me, and knocked me down while we were cuddling once. Don't mess with other people's horses, don't mess with strange horses, don't mess with other people's animals, DON'T MESS WITH ANIMALS. Please for everyone's safety.
Horses are prey animals. Just the right trigger can get you killed by the gentlest of horses. Try a few punches against the mare when she leans hard into you. Unless you are Mike Tyson, you won't hurt her, and she should get the hint. Also, stop scratching when she starts to lean on you.
I remember the first Story, and I'm guessing it's Scientology. They are incredibly sharp at keeping people out from knowing what happens within their cult. And they will often try to harass people who leave after joining, which would have been terrifying if OP hadn't gotten out in time.
And they are super aggressive if you criticize them. They basically tried to ruin Trey Parker and Matt Stone after that South Park episode.
2nd Story, this is why you can't call every instance of a big age gap "the younger one was clearly groomed".
Even though with this story there was only 4 years between them, if you told anyone how they met when she was 14 and he was 18, they would immediately say she was being Groomed.
Good morning rslash. I hope all these kids get away safely. This is scary.
Story 1: Oh my god, the step-sibs. I hope someone saves them. This is nightmare material.
That second story literally sounds like a romcom plot line told through a horror genre lense. Like seriously the way she told it I think to her sounded cute, but was nothing short of creepy, manipulative, and horrifying for the family
Cult story: Yeah, cults are insidious and will do anything and everything to gain control over their "followers". You were lucky to see enough signs to thwart being taken into this and that you managed to save your sister as well. I feel extremely sorry for your remaining 3 stepsiblings. Hopefully, they can get out of it at some point, but truthfully, that's unlikely.
Story 2: OP, you are straight up a STALKER! YOU feel betrayed?!? How do you think he feels?!?
Horses story: OP, you need more cameras, lots of no trespassing signs, lots of do not attempt to pet the animals signs, maybe run an electric fence (with warning signs of such) and a heavy duty restraining order! Good grief!
Thanks Dabney for sparing us from the same anxiety with the title 😅😅😅
I’m pretty familiar with the Chad Daybell/Lori Vallow case…. And that cult story scared me the way they scare me.
Crazy cult people and a stalker woman who almost got her perfect ending …. Those are some stories to wake up to …
Story #2: OP is not only Psycho but she's a narcissistic liar .
I feel like the 2nd story is like reverse grooming... Wtf is WRONG with these people?!
there are words to describe things like this that aren't grooming; stalking, manipulation, etc.
@pigeontoes5421 but...those words are exactly what she was doing.
@pigeontoes5421, can you please say them? If not, keep dumb lines to yourself. Seriously was it your genuine reaction, did you wanna feel different, or did you just wanna seem smart with under utilized words?
@@C.G.Gaster No, I want people to stop using the word grooming incorrectly. A teenager cannot groom an adult.
@@alexsleepycall536 Yes, that's why I said it. It's not "reverse grooming".
I couldn’t help but laugh when she said she felt betrayed. I can’t believe someone out there thinks like that
Hey, fellow cult survivor here. If ANYONE ever tells you not to go on the internet for information on them- definitely DO go on the internet. Being corrupted or misled by “them” or “outsiders” or the “worldly people” is called “OTHERING” It’s setting up you and the group against people who will/can help you out of the cult or help you reason. Imagine you are dating someone and they say “don’t Google me!” But it’s because they are a convicted felon! Always do your research, never let anyone tell you that you can’t do research on the people you let into (or control) your life.
Stay safe everyone. Cults are still very much alive and thriving. 😭
That stalker story is insane, however it’s also similar to another rslash story, where the man starts stalking his wife’s boss, accidentally meeting her at the gym, stalking her online, then after getting divorced, he starts dating the now ex wife’s boss.
He orchestrated the entire thing and then when they realised he was a stalker and the entire relationship was built in lies, it ended badly.
Already knew of the first story and just Jesus, man the amount of cult energy radiating from that post is unbelievable, but the second post is just wild, this person basically went out of their way to stalk their brothers friend and then not manipulate them but that's the only word I can think of, into liking them
Rslash how in the world did you read that second story without audibly going “what the fuck?”
If OP was a man in the second story, we would be hearing about it on a true crime channel instead of a Reddit reader channel
love the influx of r/BestOf videos, it has stories from all the usual subs, but they always have really good stories
Anyone who opposes being asked clarifying questions is always in the wrong. The only reason to hide that information is because you know you are doing something awful.
First story: I am a hardcore spiritualist and a study of advanced physics.
Translation, I could start a cult but I know that’s absolutely insane!
You connect your soul to another spiritual plane, but nothing from that plane matches or has any part with what happens here, period! Connect to a plane that’s 1000 years back, or he’ll just completely different, normal society is gonna seam like the biggest sin of them all. I really hope the siblings are okay. I don’t think they’ll be hurt, but k know they are living a life they shouldn’t
Btw, while I said I could start a cult I’ve been thinking about doing it under the ideology of one god. The thing is…… the gods view point on how we should live is frankly cracked. Helping others to get an education, to achieve multiple degree’s, and also to have a very active, physical build. That’s it! I have 8 gods and only one is insane. The majority of them to sum it up,” Live your life how you want, but I want you to achieve these goals.”
I won’t preach my gods unless asked, but I will say I think a factor to this is you know how I said you can connect to a spiritual dimension in the past. Same goes for the other direction. It’s as if I connected to fucking Futurama at times, it’s nuts!
second story is just every video game with a marriage system. ME playing sdv and buying coffee for harvey every day. or filling the greenhouse with coffee plants
Yeah, a 'mind-opening school' sounds like major yikes. Plus the leaders want to meet OP and induct them into their 'programmes?' Yuck.
Plus the whole 'never contact us again' from the family sounds like the best outcome, honestly, but I hope the siblings are able to get out somehow. The dad is a real MVP there.
That second story ... wow. .... I dont think I will ever hear a crazier story. But she was also like a kinda rational and not insane psycho? So at least it didnt end with the husband locked in a basement. I literally wouldn't know how to process any of that.
May God watch over those poor step kids in Story 1, sweet God, cults are something else.
Story 2, Well that's just a mess, no wonder the poor man booked all the way home to get some distance.
Last story - OP, there are a LOT of scammers out there, including parents that use their kids to real in paychecks. Thank goodness you had cameras around your property.
I had a parent tell their kid to jump in front of my vehicle so the kid would get hit and they would get an insurance payout..... what the parent didn't see was the dash cam I had.... they all immediately ran into their house. I called CPS, but nothing was ever done.
I very much don't believe OP would've made it to 18 if they went with their insane psycho parents. That's truly horrificand messed up. In the end them giving up parental rights and NC is the best outcome. A protection order would be sweet too. I really really hope the stepsiblings can get out of there too because this is absolutely no environment to be in. At what age are the nice good leaders going to have their eyes on them for whatever...
Second OP is a stalker, crazy and an absolute menace. I hope OP feels horrible about it because I'd be scared to death with that woman in my car. Whole world broken. This mental case manipulated and lied her way into these poor guys' lives. If he's smart he's getting himself and brother away from that and the fact OP cries about being lied to after lying to all of them is pure gold. Smart move of him to keep reassuring her until he could get to safety. For her though: GET HELP WOMAN!
I think this is a good story ratio for this subreddit. Two normal length and a shorter one.
Maybe next time, they won't be so crazy tho. 🤣
Considering it's Reddit....ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
@@Xolivas1 fair enough but the ratio is solid.
Story #2... It's insane how stalkers don't see themselves as stalkers. It couldn't be more obvious, but they have a blind spot, like if they want it enough then that makes their actions OK. Reverse the genders here and tell me how "cute" it is.
She met him one time, and immediately decided she needs him? What the Fuck?
She used her brother to find out where he lived.
She forged a friendship under false pretenses with his brother to infiltrate the family.
She leveraged that friendship to gain access to his mother, who she pumped for more information.
She chose a sport in High School to get closer to him.
She stalked his social media for years.
She moved to a different State to be closer to him.
She went out of her way to change her appearance and dress to appeal to him.
She married him while still keeping her past actions a secret.
This is not a schoolgirl with a crush, this is a sociopath in need of long-term psychiatric care and a lot of meds and a court-ordered ankle-bracelet and restraining order.
I will go a little easy on her, this started when she was 14-years-old. Thinking back to Highschool, I know a 14-year-old girl with a crush can get pretty intense, lol. I had a couple of them in my vicinity when I was that age, albeit not nearly to this extent. The worst I had was a girl who changed all her classes to be in the same class as me most of the day, which was creepy, and she never deceived me, her intentions were very clear, lol... but it was not even remotely this. This is someone who never matured intellectually or emotionally beyond the age of 10 or 11, and what she was doing worked for her, so she never questioned it. She's not "evil", but she is mentally ill.
The shocking part is that she's angry that he's upset by this. She thinks she's entitled to act this way because SHE is happy with the results. The ends for her (and only her) justify the means. And now she's ready for her "next husband". This woman is completely unhinged.
But the saddest part is she never loved him. Not in the way you or I, or any rational person understand the word. She never cared about how her deception would impact him, and only considered telling him to get ahead of him likely finding out anyway. Her confession was just part of a plan to preemptively mitigate any damage to her, but she didn't care what it meant for him or his family.
How is this guy supposed to recover from this? He's lived a lie for 7 years, unwittingly being used. How do you trust people after something like that? That mistrust is going to follow him into his future relationships. It's not one of those things you know you'll be able to laugh about someday, this can fuck a person up badly, and forever hinder their ability to be happy with anyone. And that doesn't even cross her mind here. She just gaslights him because "He doesn't appreciate honesty, he must not have meant it when he took his wedding vows". She puts the blame on him.
I'll be blunt, this is on par with rape. She may not have physically restrained him to have her way. She manipulated and choreographed his entire reality for a decade to satisfy her wants. Some rapists use force, some leverage authority, she turned it into a decades long theatrical production, with lots of reconnaissance and weaponizing his family against him and each other to undermine his free will. Different tactic, but the same crime. And because she was covert about it, I'm sure many will say it doesn't count (the law included, sadly). So she gets away with it, and many won't even take the guy seriously because of the tactics she used.
Sociopathy isn't a "diagnosis" in the DSM-V, but it's approximate, "Anti-social Personality Disorder" is a classification generally characterized by the following constellation of traits:
• Failure to conform to social norms.
Check - This bitch is weird alright.
• Deceitfulness.
Check - Her whole life for a decade including her best-friend and her marriage was one giant lie.
• Impulsivity and poor planning.
Maybe - There was a lot of planning here, but not good planning if her stalker notes were on a phone in his possession, and she's openly posting about it on the Internet, lol. While there may have been a overall plan, the details all seem pretty reactionary to me. A lot of improvisation.
• Irritability and aggression
Unknown - We'd have to ask her ex-husband. There's no evidence of that in her story, but we only heard one side, and she would know enough to not admit to that, or would likely have rationalized it away as irrelevant. Possible, but uncertain.
• Lack of regard for others
Check - How many people did she use in pursuit of this objective? How many false friendships were forged and leveraged disingenuously? Did she ever consider the impact it would have on her husband or his family?
• Irresponsibility and lack of accountability.
Check and Check
• Lack of remorse
Check - At the end of her marriage, her only concern is for herself. No remorse for the destruction she's caused to numerous people's lives. She ends it with a reference to her "Next Husband" and a "LOL". Real remorseful.
This bitch is certifiable. She has 5 out of 7 for sure, more than enough, and the other two can't be discounted with the information provided. And these traits span a decade of time. All people exhibit these traits at times, but they are incidental and narrow in scope with most people. These traits are a way of life for her.
I am NOT a psychiatrist, this is NOT a diagnosis. I'm just pointing out that her story is basically a textbook example of many of these traits.
That second story... The first 10 seconds, I was like "Stalker!"
Third story.. I’ve been riding horses for five years now. Under no circumstances should you EVER interact with a horse you don’t know. Most paddock fences are just suggestions as horses are strong enough to break them or jump them if they’d like, so you stay tf away from strange horses even if they seem friendly. Stomps, bites, kicks, can all KILL YOU coming from a horse.
Story 2: STALKER with GOD mode activated 😂😂😂😂
Reddit: it’s okay because she’s a girl
@@MrDoverfield Unfortunately you’re right 😂😂
Very sadly, unless evidence of abuse or other danger comes to light there isn't much that can be done for OP's siblings if her mom and stepdad have full custody. All we can do is hope that the cult isn't extreme enough to physically hurt them or reenact Jonestown and that they can escape as they get older.
Story 1: They weren't "meditating". The cult leaders told them to stop because otherwise their organisation was going to be investigated if it escalates.I feel so sorry for the rest of the siblings...
Story 2: OMG... She's creepy, she's obsessed. It was so manipulative. She pretty much stalked this guy. And I was scared that he'd actually would want to stay with her. I'm glad he escaped. Holy shit.
Story 1: Thank goodness that OP and his sister were able to get out that situation. If they had stayed, their mom and stepdad may have found some way to force them to drink the Kool-aid or commit mass murder. This story reminded me of my favorite Criminal Minds episode "Minimal Loss" (the episode where the BAU rescues as many members of a cult that is led by guest star Luke Perry). In that episode, we learn of the hierarchy pyramid Cult Leader, Die-hards (where OP's mom and stepdad fall under) and Followers (where OP's stepsiblings fall under). I hope that the government tracks down that cult and gets as many of the followers out as they can.
Story 2: He just realized that OP was more than his brother's best friend- OP was stalking him for years. I hope that OP's ex-husband gets a restraining order against her. She sounds nuts.
its scare how people blatantly and almost maliciously in the wrong can think themselves in the right to the extent of these stories
Did no one in the 1st post of the second story tell her that she comes off as a major creep?
The chills im getting from the first story is gonna make me throw up those 3 children need to be saved IMMEDIATELY anything just to take them out of there I don’t want to see another horror story from a cult.I hope if they aren’t saved they can run away once of age with mild trauma
Rslash was saying yesterdays story was similar to "You" but the second story today fits Joel perfectly 😂
Story 2: a little controversial opinion here, i believe OP truly became a stalker the moment she decided to follow him to NYC. If she had confess to him before that, i will think it is possible to forgive befriending his little brother and mom, still creepy but not so much. I say this because i had seen more than one time people getting to know eachother trough friends and family. He probably had reject her, maybe not, we wil never know, but it would have been "better" than years of lies. Hope life finds a better person for OP ex-husband and that OP gets therapy.
I agree. I don’t necessarily think her initially becoming friends with his brother is really that bad since she was still pretty young. I do think her using his mom to know his likes and dislikes is very creepy
@@briannad9155- *Deliberately* becoming friends with someone to get closer to the person you actually want to get to know sounds rather manipulative to me. Like you don’t actually care about the in-between person, you’re just using them. How are they supposed to feel about that? I still think it’s scummy.
@@Tustin2121 I’m excusing it because she was like 14/15 when she did it. If she started the friendship because of the dude’s brother but then very quickly realized he was just a cool dude, stopped really caring about the brother, and focused more on just having the close friendship, then I think the situation would be fine. It’s the fact that she continued the friendship while really only caring about having a relationship with the brother.
@@briannad9155 - Okay, fine. It’s still scummy, but teenagers are generally rather callous and inexperienced with social stuff, so I understand giving that a pass.
Befrending the sibling of your crush is 14yo logic. I don't nesserly mind that that though it is wrong and her adult self should recognise it as such... Everything else tho, holy shit lady, men have gone to jail for less.
Second story: Am I the only one weirded out by the fact that he had her old phone, though? Unless she's jumping to conclusions that he looked through it, and it just happened to still be there.
Either way, don't blame OP's husband for leaving how he did.
That second story is crazy, but not sure I entirely believe it. I mean, the husband knew her brother well enough from high school, that he walks him home from the park after they are in college, but doesn't recognize that they are family when he shows up at their wedding? I could see not remembering much about her, but he would definitely know that he's knows the guy, and it's entirely likely that he'd met his sister before.
Those poor remaining kids, hopefully they’ll also get out of whatever the hell those parents are in.
I really don't like the sentence "infected the woumb" from the first story, it makes it really sounds like they were expecting OP's sister to marry a man in the compound and have his babies
You know that's what will happen..it's sick stuff...
I think the mom meant OP infected *her* womb so that his younger sister turned out like him and didn’t want to join this cult. Not that I think you’re wrong about the expectation for OP’s sister. Glad she got away, too.
Some breeders used to think a purebred’s pregnancy with a mutt would make any succeeding offspring mutts.
that stalker 2nd story is odd. why does she keep referring to him as her 'current' husband? it implies he was either not the first, or she plans on having others? and this was before the update before she even told him...
Did you not see the end of her post? "I might update this post when I find a new husband." It was never about love. It was about possessing that which she was obsessed with. Now that the obsession is over, she's ready to move on to the new obsession. After all, the quest to obtain what we desire is usually much more fun than actually possessing it. He was a trophy husband, now she wants more trophies.
Yeah, you’re right, the use of the “current” qualifier even in the initial post is very weird. It’s worse than we think, maybe.
That's what I got caught on. Though the whole thing is clearly terrifying!! And then the prize isn't interesting once caught. Gross!
I’m going to be up at night worrying about the other three kids. Those poor, poor babies. 😭
S1) OP's so lucky he got out of there safely. His mom sounds certified. She needs time in the hug myself coat and the pillow room.
S2) She stalked the guy for literal years, used his family to get closer to the guy and then acts all butt hurt he feels unsafe with her lunacy. For the sake of humanity the OP stays single cause no one deserves this level of creepiness. Also this OP deserved the Karen voice R/slash. She saw this guy as an item to obtain not a human freaking being. Anyone who can agree with what she did needs to stay single cause they're screaming in red flag to be avoided at all cost.
S3) If she knows there's a no trespassing sign and lets her kid do this she's just looking to sue for the money. In all intent purposes CPS needs to get involved too so she can be charged with willful neglegence of a minor. Bring in the outer fence a bit then add in barbed wire.