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Can Kyler Murray Save His Career? | Why Kyler is the Next Jay Cutler
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- čas přidán 8. 08. 2024
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Kyler Murray and Jay Cutler are both highly talented athletic players with the ability to change a franchise, but their lack of leadership and poor attitudes hurt their teams.
When you get a player with as much talent as either of these, you have to put up with them because they'll help you win in the short term, but these unchecked egos will kill a franchise over time.
0:00 - Intro
0:29 - Talent and Apathy
1:24 - Cutler Had Limitless Potential, But Didn't Care
2:21 - He Didn't Care to Improve
2:54 - Cutler's Controversial NFC Championship
3:56 - Kyler Murray's Warning Signs
4:43 - He Had a Hot Start
5:16 - Did K1 Refuse to Run in Playoffs?
6:02 - Cardinals Extend K1 Out of Panic
7:34 - Arizona's Back Where They Started with Rosen
7:54 - Outro
This is such a great video, keep up the content! Spot on 🔥🔥🔥
Really appreciate it, thank you so much!
interesting comparison! How did the connection unfold for you?
Thank you, and mostly through just seeing the immense talent and poor body language. I've been critical of other QBs like Baker, but he's never had bad body language, just over-intensity on the field. It's so depleting to a team's energy to see your leader complain, so it's kind of rare, especially from great talents.
Thank you for watching!
You’re probably one of the most underrated content creators on this platform
Really appreciate that, thanks so much for watching!
Is that why he can't tell the difference between Dan Patrik and Peter King?
@WilliamWright-zv8mi yeah I misspoke, sorry to disappoint Mr Wright
Great vid!!
thank you!
As a bears fan, I didn’t have a problem with him leaving the game, the dude had a sprained mcl and that’s a pretty serious injury, and in general the dude was tough as nails. What I think rubbed the fan base the wrong way was how there was no concern or emotion being displayed, he just sat by himself on the bench with no reaction while we had a Super Bowl ripped out of our hands.
I like the way you do your videos. New subbie🎉
Thanks for subbing!
I am not necessarily defending Murray, but part of the blame goes to the sports media and the way they basically asked if he was going to choose to go to the NFL HoF or the MLB HoF before either draft even occurred.
10% of life is what happens to you, 90% is how you respond to that 10%.
That sounds like a good problem to have though haha, I get how it could be frustrating, but as the comment below mentioned, it is how you respond and control the narrative.
The players who have the toughest time with the media are the ones who are the most indignant and vocal towards them, so they attract bad press. I think we forget how even when we're kids in school, if a teacher likes you, they'll bump you up a few percent or down depending on how you treat them, because they're humans too.
The same should be assumed for any profession, especially the media.
Thanks so much for watching!
@@joericottone Agreed. I guess I just meant that the media will put guys on pedestals but then be shocked when some of them (who handle it the wrong by choice) are in turn arrogant.
What does that have to do with anything? It doesn’t
"But he got paid" - Murray Fan Boyz
facts haha, thanks for watching
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Thank you for this viewpoint
Thank you for watching!
Good video bro
Thanks so much man!
Good video!
Thank you for watching!!
Different skillsets..I compared Levis to Cutler strictly on the field. From a talent vs character/leadership standpoint, you're 100% right. Talented enough to be a pretty good starter still, but no intangibles. Arizona will stay mediocre at best
I think the bottoms gonna fallout for the Cards this year and it's prolly for the best.
Agreed, thanks for watching!
great job dude, deserves way more exposure
Thanks so much and thank you for watching!
Great video
Thanks so much, Duke!
Great comparison. I see your channel slowly growing and I’ve been along for almost the entire ride. It will go far. We remember how good Smokin Jay Cutler was but he needs his own emoji 😎while smoking a heater. Talent is only part of the deal. Kyler seems like he gives way too few F’s.
Really appreciate the support, OG! And yes, the talent will only get your foot in the door! thanks for watching!
As a Chicago Native everything you said is Accurate. Even South Park yes the Tv show made fun of Jay Cutler. Jay Cutler use to be with the Bronco. Randy from South Park said Jay Cutler had so much Potential.
Thanks so much for watching!
@joericottone I was actually cheering for Kyle Murray because he 5"8 but his attitude is unacceptable especially for a franchise trying to start over
KILLER video, I think you did such a great job with your analysis and it was very well researched
Thank you so much! Really appreciate it
are you gonna post videos every sunday from now on ?
Yes sir! That’s how its been going the past few weeks, could change in season tho
This channel is gonna blow up. This is elite sports content.
Thanks so much! really appreciate the support, more to come soon!
Well, here are some examples of franchise k1llers who turned it around
Drew Brees: famously lousy qb for the Chargers who got upset after his injury and was released
Steve Young: sucked with the buccs but did a few years as a backup and turned it around
The point is that bad orgs can create bad qbs out of hofers. Give k1 the year and then look but if you trade him, just remember historically you'll tend to regret it.
No doubt! I'm hoping he can make a change because he's too talented to waste away. I'd love to see his redemption arc. Thanks for watching!
I like Kyler a lot even though they are division rivals. I hope he gets his crap together I want to see him succeed
me as well! thanks for watching
Sometimes really talented guys don't feel like they have to put the work in. The sad part is now the Cardinals are stuck with his bloated contract. It's amazing how some teams will run through a brick wall for their quarterback. I guess I'm lucky to live in Kansas City
Yup. No one here likes him and no one in Chicago I know liked Cutler. Facts.
Cause they ain’t use to it they’ve been on top their whole lives and never really had to put in any effort
you are very lucky haha, but great point and thanks for watching!
Ayy Joey, I wanted to follow within the first 850.. because sky is the limit for you
Thanks so much bro! glad you're along for the ride!
GREAT video, but that's Dan Patrick, not Peter King (It even says "The Dan Patrick show" on his desk).
DP is one of the best sports casters but that’s okay, the error is not relevant to the main point. The point is the Cringeworthy interview.
😂😂😂 dude, I cannot believe I missed that. I literally rewatch and edit these about 6-7 times and it still slipped through, appreciate it though!
Thank you!
I distinctly remember Jay Cutler on the sidelines using an exercise bike during that game, after he had been pulled. Pretty sure that is the kind of thing a trainer has an injured athlete do.
I'm being pretty reasonable considering how angry I was at the time. The Packers didn't even deserve a playoff berth that season, much less a Super Bowl; Bears just decided not to show up in Week 17. So, I was more than a bit on the "Smokin' Jay Cutler is a quitter" bandwagon at the time.
it's definitely up in the air, but thank you for watching!
This was an amazing video based on facts and not opinions now could you make a vid on the adjustments Kliff Kingsbury made to his offense and how that affected Kyler Murray? As well as how the Cardinals offense accounts for their O-Line's weaknesses in addition to Vance Joseph's scheme works around the weaknesses in his defense?
Well then you got tricked because it was mostly opinions and not facts. None of this was about productivity or skill, just leadership and character, thank you for watching
This is *all opinion.* That Murray is like Cutler in attitude is _opinion_ as well as that the opinions of others should be taken into consideration.
Am I the only person who remembers how Murray scored that game-winning 2-point conversion 100% on his own against the Raiders last season? Some apathy. There: I just destroyed opinion with actual fact. The premise here is _clearly_ wrong.
Murray has had *nothing* handed to him. He's been insulted & still is from day one just because of his height. So he's here to prove himself _his way!_ & if some players find that this makes him less of a team player, that is _not _*_important!_* He's not there for their morale on _or off_ the field! This is one of the things Andrew Luck cited as a reason for retiring, the Immense Pressure put upon him to live his Entire Life like he's Always On The Field. That's a False Expectation, not a responsibility.
Well it’s impossible that he scored that 2pt conversion on his own because his line gave him enough time to maneuver behind the LOS, so there, I just destroyed your point with a fact.
If you were a GM and you had the choice between kyler the is the way he is now, or kyler but he has the leadership qualities of a manning or brady, who would you choose?
You also referenced Andrew Luck in defense of Murray, Luck retired because he couldn’t handle that responsibility that is required to hold that position.
And how about Jalen Hurts? Maybe the ULTIMATE leader of the new Gen and got to a Super Bowl in his first 3 years as a second round pick who had to work to improve his shortcomings.
Leadership matters and when you make more money than everyone, you have to set the standard
@@joericottone I often very deliberately say things a certain way to lure people towards a specific reaction. I realize there is an o-line. The point is, you're trying to prove that Murray is apathetic. So that he made all that effort to score the 2 points was the issue that undoes your premise. Whether the o-line helped is irrelevant to it.
Thanks for playing.
😂😂 am I speaking to Dwight K. Schrute right now or Jigsaw? No one said he wasn’t talented or didn’t compete. The opinion of apathy is based on his leadership skills, and relationships with coaches and teammates - I hope you fulfill you’re ultimate aspiration of becoming a Discord mod
Bears Fan here. Jay could have done more to be a leader if he wanted, but it wouldn't have mattered. The leader of those teams was Brian Urlacher. Nothing Jay would have or could have done would have supplanted that. He also had 6 different OCs for 6 different offenses in 7 years as a Bear. The year he was playing his best, 2013, he got hurt making a tackle on a turnover showing he did not quit on the team and that he cared. I was at the 2010 NFC championship game. Maurice Jones Drew in one of the first viral moments of sports social media, sent out his tweet about Jay quitting during the game and everything else spiraled from there. Because he was "aloof" everyone else piled on and because there was no play that could pinpoint when it happened, the questions started. Despite every Bears coach saying the next day he had a torn MCL and that he tried to play on it and that he convinced them to let him start 2nd half to try it out because it was the champ game, the damage was already done. Was he perfect, no. Did he disappoint, yes. But he doesn't deserve the criticism he gets for that play.
great points! and thank you for watching
Do you know the year jones drew lead the league in rushing he played with an mcl tear the entire year 👀 he blew it up for a reason
I witnessed the NFC championship game as a Chicago burb senior in HS, and in that moment I thought Jay quit. You forgot the Todd Collins part, and BJ Raji. It was also later diagnosed that Jay partially tore his MCL. It didn’t help that Cutler was caught walking Rodeo with Kristen the Monday after the game…. I’ve talked to a few very football experienced coaches, and the MCL injury was very legitimate. If Jay wasn’t hurt that bad, he would’ve played. You need your MCL to move
No doubt the MCL is needed haha, he just could have handled the narrative better, but that's tough when you're aloof. thanks for watching
Kyler changed the narrative about him and it seems that the injury humbled him and gave him time to reflect on himself. i would love to see a follow up video on Kyler. Watch some press conferences and media access that has come out recently. I truly believe this season will be Kyler's best season as a pro.
Cutler didn’t quit in the champ game. The guy was fighting injury the entire time. He’s tough as hell. And as a bears fan he always get my respect for how tough he is
It seems very split amongst Bears fans, no doubt he was injured, but could he have kept playing is the real question. Thanks for watching!
@@joericottone He could've kept playing. I remember that game clearly. Cutler had immense talent but just didn't care enough.
I gave Jay so much shit when he was playing just to miss him when he left 😂
I remember Cutler having a torn MCL. During the second half, he just couldn't step into his throws.
Umm from Chicago and REAL BEARS haven't existed since 85. I don't recognize none of those QBs since. Fan not sheep.
That’s was pretty accurate take on Kyler Murray vs jay cutler you definitely nailed it. He has one more chance with new staff. But it be up to kyler.
Appreciate it, and for sure, he can write his own destiny
@@joericottone yeah if don’t destroy his offensive line. You know most our injury issues might want bring up is Kyler style he bales on oline put oline in bad positions
great take and great comparing to cutler . never thought of that but its spot on
thanks so much, appreciate it !
I see you lost a couple videos. Copyrighted? Also you a cards fan?
There should be 12 videos available, are they not showing up for you? Thanks for the feedback
@@joericottone ope I can't count lol
Watching this video makes me ever so glad to be a Chiefs fan!
Must be nice! haha thanks for watching!
It was my 21st bday and cutler definitely quit that day.
That's a bad birthday gift if you're a Bears fan haha! thanks for watching!
I'd never seen the Peter King interview before. Wow.
yeah it's eye opening, I also messed up, it's dan patrick not peter king, thanks for watching!
Thats a tough position for a gm fail with two first round qbs.
K1 can still turn it around, but it's not looking great, thanks for watching
7:46 “front offices want adults running their franchises “ and he’s talking about Caleb Williams who had “fuck Utah” on his nails last year. 😂
Do what you will on the field to your opponents, its about how you lead your own guys and handle the podium
@@joericottone actions like that are the “bulletin board material” that coaches are wary of. SC went on to lose that game 47-24.
I’m not taking anything away from Williams abilities as a QB. However I know I wouldn’t want my franchise QB displaying that attitude.
I wouldn’t disagree with you there, but at least there’s one more year to evaluate him
Quality is Crazy
Thank you so much!
Marvin Harrison Jr going to be the second overall pick in the 2024 NFL draft going to be drafted by the Arizona Cardinals
Wouldn't be a bad pick!
I don't know about Murray but he's right about Cutler. Bear Down forever.
We'll see about K1, thanks for watching!
Jeff George another great example
u also needa point some fingers at kliff kingsbury and steve kiem they set the cardinals up for failure
oh no doubt, they blew it, thanks for watching!
Great CZcams 🔥
thanks so much!
You are right about this, but I really hope you are wrong about Kyler . Jay was like that. I was in Chicago at the time.
Me as well, I always want the best for these talented players. thanks for watching!
haha that's not peter king, that's dan patrick
Yes, and I realized after uploading so I get to respond to these comments for the rest of my life lol -- thanks for watching!
@@joericottone Haha, we're all humans bro! You made a good video, but my only friendly criticism wouuld be, and perhaps it's just my preference, but I don't like all the edits. Maybe some people like it, but to me it's kind of jarring. I like a good natural flow in speech, personally. Keep up the good work though! Go phins
Caleb Williams going to be the first overall pick 2024 NFL draft I'm going to be drafted by the Arizona Cardinals
well good luck! Thanks for watching
That's Dan Patrick not Peter King.
yeah I was tired and messed up lol
"Winning fixes everything" Evan Drellich
This is brutal stuff right here
In what way
I agree with the stance that kyler Murray may have some personality issues. But to say Jay Cutler's issue was that he was lazy and apathetic is a joke imo. They guy was extremely tough and played through injuries. He wasnt a vocal leader, but to criticize him just off that is wild. Trevor lawrence isnt a vocal leader either.
Some guys deep down are wannabe Lawrence Taylors. What I mean is they see themselves as the eccentric guy gone rogue and yet somehow ends up the best player on the field. The LTs are the exception among exceptional players. Most great players can't afford to roll so loose.
Very true! thanks so much for watching
It’s an interview with Dan Patrick. Not Peter King
This the PERFECT comparison they both are the same guy mines the hight difference
haha true! thanks for watching!
Cutler is actually somewhat more of an opposite effect for football fans. For one we fans compare him to not caring about the sport. When he obviously does. And two never shows his emotions. That wasn't until we as fans saw him beat Tom Brady as a Dolphin. Showing us that he always had passion for the game.
And Kyler is more like an opposite of Cutler. Where we see emotion from him. But he obviously has shown signs of immaturity on the field more than Cutler ever has.
interesting points! thanks so much for watching!
Jay was a good QB he was a GREAT BEAR. He got depressed and was getting hurt but he was good.
he was unbelievably talented for sure, thanks for watching
Except former teammates to this day still has nothing bad to say about him so..... Wrong. Media brianwashed perception vs Reality..... Further from the truth
Did you miss the patrick peterson clip?
truth, Kyler Murray has one bad year and we're acting like he is a plague on the NFL. Jay Cutler comps now. What? This is someone who was in MVP discussions a year ago before injury. What we are witnessing happen to Kyler Murray right now is the problem with the NFL media.
@@AdmiralMug inot saying he's a plague to the NFL, but perhaps he is to his team's locker room. Why would Patrick Peterson say those things about him?
These are early whispers of something that will likely grow, the same way Ryan Clark called Antonio Brown becoming an issue.
I'm not saying K1 will become AB, but when stuff like this is publicly said by well respected players, it has to be taken seriously.
@@joericottone Oh I was talking about Jay Cutler
@@AdmiralMug Murray is terrible dude. He was and is still nothing without D-Hops who carried 5 or 6 different bum qb's to playoffs? And go look at his record before and after Call of Duty comes out (without Hops ofcourse)
Maybe he was careless but I think he can still be a good leader and you're wrong if you think that Caleb Williams isn't also a great selfish person
That was Dan Patrick, Not Peter King
yeah I was very tired and didn't realize til it was uploaded haha, thanks for watching
I always liked watching Jay play and I like watching Kyler play too. They’re definitely talented. But for some reason they just don’t seem to put it together, and to be fair to both players. Their teams often fail them.
No doubt, I just think we’ve seen the good ones be erasers and neither of these guys do that from a team building perspective
kyler is showing a lot of off the field improvement recently. james connor was saying how kylers been the first one there and the last one out and he’s even at otas even tho he can’t actually play. budda baker, the “heart and soul” of the cardinals isn’t even there
don’t even try man these ppl obviously don’t watch cardinals games or pay attention to the cardinals they only listen to the media which just so happens to have a gripe against k1
hope so! If I'm Budda though, I'm leaving the franchise because it's a fire sale rn
I've been living in the Chicago-land area for just about 40 years and I think you did a pretty good job here. Apathy is definitely the word that comes to mind when I think of Jay. Extreme arm talent and unrealized potential equals Jay Cutler. I think Cutler's career would of turned out completely different perception-wise if he wins a super bowl for the Bears though.
I think if Jay Cutler had a prime Deandre Hopkins in 2010 we might have gotten to the super bowl that year... I'm not saying you're wrong about Cutler at all just that we had one of the worst receiving corps in history that year. With just a little bit more on offense that defense was good enough to at least beat the Packers in the NFC championship... that game was close even with Caleb Hanie under center. I don't think it changes much for Cutler as a player in reality but perception-wise, it's a completely different narrative. If Murrary can get this team to a super bowl things will change pretty fast for him... perception-wise. In reality, he probably remains an aloof dee bag. just like Jay.
Cutler still comes on the radio (espn 1000) from time to time... you can tell he doesn't care about anything, but it's hilarious. He's actually a pretty funny guy and you can also tell he doesn't like talking about football.
I’d love to have a beer with Jay, seems like a fun guy, but I agree with your points. Thanks for watching!
The biggest problem was the front office. It was a let’s make everyone happy and not hold any accountable type of office. The GM was horrible. Sucked a drafting and the good people he did draft he would let them walk ( Hassan Reddick , Tyron Mathieu few examples). The disrespect he gave Pat P which cost him to leave to Minnesota. Trading the first round pick last year for Hollywood. Not hating on Hollywood but it was completely unnecessary. You had decent WR room and tight ends. You could of easily lasted the 6 games without him.
Also I hate how no one holds D-Hop accountable. Screwed his team with the PED suspension last year. And in 2021 both him and Kyler got injured except Kyler played through his and Hop got injured again. Also on the note that he he sat out the last games of last year season he didn’t play either.
The coach sucked. His scheme was pretty much “ Kyler go be special “. The only reason they had a shot at winning any game was because of Kyler.
Yes Kyler attitude was annoying at times but the whole team had a bad attitude. And we won’t even know if it is Kyler the problem because he is injured. So if Kyler wants to prove everyone wrong the sooner he comes back the better. Even if they loose and he proves he controls the offense. Having a good coach matters. Like a Josh Allen. Everyone was about to write him as a bust but here comes a good coach and now he is 1 of the top 3 quarterbacks in the league.
Kyler needs someone to correct him and someone he respects as a coach. Hopefully Gannon is the one
No doubt, good points, a QB with a good attitude can pull up a team's morale though, so hopefully he's matured, thanks for watching!
There are bears fans watching (me). I don’t think he quit on the team but normally a team would send him to the locker room or out of the game in that sense. Instead they left him on the bench which made people think he was healthy and gave people a worse opinion of him.
Despite that he did have character concerns where he just wouldn’t try as hard and didn’t give a shit if somebody called him out. This prevented him from achieving his full potential
no doubt! thanks for watching
Franchise Killer? The Bears franchise was already killed when Cutler got there and he's proved to be the best qb they've had since Sid Luckman. They rotated in so many different OC's on him and offensive systems and personnel while he was there so he could never get used to one system, all without ever giving him a good O line, and he was getting sacked relentlessly but always took the hits, got up, and kept playing, and it finally looked like with Brandon Marshall and Alshon Jeffrey, it was all coming together to make some deep playoff runs, but Marshall was a damn head case and became a cancer in the locker room and they had to trade him. Sure Cutler had a bit of an apathetic attitude, but as far as talent goes, he was the best qb they have had, Fields not included. I believe Cutler takes Denver to the Superbowl eventually if he isn't traded to the Bears.
I mean franchise killer in the sense that he was so talented that the team would overlook his leadership qualities because the rest of his game was so good. But I agree, thanks for watching!
Cutler had a great offensive players..there is no way he should have failed. The truth was that his diabetes likely effected his play
Could be something to that! Thanks for watching!
Love the video but I have to disagree. Jay cutler was a much better QB than Murray. But your content is awesome. Subbed 🫡
I appreciate you watching anyways! thanks so much for the support!
Got to re due this video guy!!
Will be!! Next month or two ill revisit
The pain of watching Jay Cutler again...SMH what a waste
Could have been truly great, thanks for watching!
Jay Cutler had skills , needed coaches - Kyler can spin it but doesn’t have skills or need to be a qb - simple
I think he has the skills but lacks the leadership, thank you for watching
This video might as well be about Aaron Rodgers. He's Jay Cutler, with HOF talent.
haha exactly! I've said my piece on a-rod in my first video, but yes, very similar
If i was Kyler i wouldn't care about winning for that dumpster fire organization. Cardinals get rid of all the good talent and never prioritize protecting their QB in building a competent o line. As an arizona native i feel bad for every player that winds up in phoenix
Thats not Peter King lol. Its Dan Patrick.
Yeah, I realized the mistake after posting, I’m happy to get a notification correcting it every day since lol. Thanks for watching!
FIELDS COULD NEVER.
Justin Fields is him if he can learn to throw, thanks for watching!
Needed to see this. I'm wondering if there isn't something psychologically wrong with someone like Murray & Cutler? Now, that the Cardinals have Dobbs they're succeeding. Then Murray posts a weird Tik Tok about being back soon. What's he worried about? Don't know the details to his contract but get rid of him. I can not believe the Cardinals made that horrible deal with him. I've been doing some research. I can guarantee that most of the player's do not like him. Josh is building a relationship with the team & leading. Most don't know the details to his time in the NFL & view him negatively. No, he really is a great QB. All he needed was an opportunity. Thanks, for the video. It solidified my thoughts.
I'm a cardinals fan so must say 1st I enjoyed this video and 2nd I never saw Kyler as a franchise quarterback and while I think he should've gotten paid, just as much oflr more than Mahomes or Allen.
Not as
Thanks so much for watching! yeah, it's tough to buy into kyler as a leader rn, maybe this year will change without Kliff though!
Interesting video. As someone on the spectrum, maybe Kyler is autistic? He has a special interest in football, has no filter, doesn't recognize his teammate's cues, and keeps to himself? I realize that there would need to be much more evidence and research, but his behavior does feel familiar. He may need a trade elsewhere before he changes, though. The timing for the Cardinals would fit because they are rebuilding with a new coach and GM, and Murray will be out most of the season due to injury. QBs who keep to themselves or aren't great leaders can succeed if others fill the holes. We will see if the new structure in Arizona is what fits for Murray and the team.
Thank you for the insight! It could definitely be legitimate -- thank you for that insight and thanks for watching!!
Cutler had a mostly subpar receiving corps and a patchwork O-Line. Lots of draft busts on that O-Line during his time with the Bears. He was a douche and very unlikable but that's not why they didn't win.
Don’t you dare disrespect Cutty like that. Man had some of the worst lineman and OCs in history
Kurt Warner went to 2 Super Bowls with Mike Martz though haha, look I thought he was a baller, if he’d been a better leader I think he’d have been one of the greats of his era. Thank you for watching!
"He's the first one in, (the facilities) last one out." Jonathan Gannon and James Conner on Kyler Murray.
(either way great video, i just disagree with you. He was on the path, but it looks like he's off of it.)
Appreciate the support, and we'll see this season!
This is horse shit. Kylers just quieter dude, and he put his long term health on the line against the Rams in the last game of his second year. He was literally limping while trying to lead the team to a win. People are just bashing to bash
No one is trying to bash him, it’s a simple observation in how he fails to communicate effectively
Dan patrick! Put respeck on that name
I’ll never live that error down, you might be the 100th comment on that lol
Dan patrick not Peter king
Ya it was on oversight on my part, note to self, don’t be tired while shooting and editing
Oh they're fooked
Some would say so!
Shows Jay Cutler’s body
*looks up Tom Brady’s body
Brady's workouts were wack but they worked, 20 years in the league and missed only 15 games because of a torn acl haha
Excellent video. Cardinals organization has been a train wreck for years - including in St. Louis. Caleb Williams fits their destructive choices, too - he choked down the stretch and backed into the Heisman trophy. His maturity has to be questioned too - remember the bowl game performance (Tulane, - yes Tulane) and his knuckles? Seems like the prototype Cardinals draft pick.
Thank you so much! Appreciate the support. And yes, Caleb will have some growing to do this year, I think having a full season post Heisman will be a good test
Only a matter of time before the Cardinals are forced to eat Murray's albatross of a contract and they tank for Caleb Williams... who is also a Lincoln Riley QB with leadership concerns. They are absolutely going to do it too, I know this because the Cardinals are almost always a total mess without any sort of direction or long-term plan, they just follow trends or sign old players to siphon a drop of gas out of them. No matter what regime they have, front office, general manager, coaching staff, it doesn't matter, they always repeat the same mistakes over and over again. Now there's a new GM (which was 5 years overdue) and they brought in a coach who got tactically spanked by Andy Reid in the Super Bowl. Obviously they deserve a few years to find their groove since this is going to be a long-term rebuild, but I have a feeling this regime will fail to build a winning culture and have sustained success, just like every other regime that came before them. This is the Cardinals after all, and the Bidwills will royally screw things up once again.
Cardinals fans should be lucky that 2008 and 2015 happened because this team will never come close to those highs ever again - as long as the Bidwill family are still owners. They are the worst NFL owners now that Dan Snyder is gone. Even their long time partners in misery in the Lions, Browns, Bengals, Jets, etc. have all found success over the last few years to varying degrees. Even the Raiders were able to have a good season in 2021 despite loads of off-field drama and adversity. All the Cardinals have to show is starting the 2021 season 7-0. That's it. The Bidwills are so bad that they are actually predictable, I fully expect them to try and trade Jay Culter 2.0 while eating a big part of his contract and use another first overall pick to replace him with... Jay Cutler 3.0. Roughly 4-7 years from now they will find themselves in a very similar position that they're currently in as we speak. I like that they are clearly rebuilding for the future instead of foolishly pretending that they can still be contenders, but who's to say they won't make the same mistakes once again? The Arizona Cardinals are like Groundhog Day, but the humor is replaced with crippling depression and Einstein's definition of insanity.
Sell the team!
this is my favorite comment in my young youtube career lol! I do think Caleb will learn from Kyler's mistakes if he ends up in AZ, but I agree, the ownership needs to change. You know things are bad when the owners make the players pay to take food home from the facility.
Thanks so much for watching!
@@joericottone Thank you, and here's a bonus, I'll elaborate on Caleb Williams some more. I just don't get the hype around him. Yeah, he's very talented and has already won a Heisman. He's projected to go first overall in 2024 for a reason. But we're talking about the guy who painted "Fuck Utah" on his fingernails and then proceeded to lose to Utah in embarrassing fashion yet again. I know it's just one incident but that's a huge red flag, I don't remember any college or NFL QB ever doing something like that. He seems very immature and childish, he has a lot to learn before he can become the leader of 52 other men on an NFL team.
He's Kyler Murray but taller with shades of Spencer Rattler's personality. Oh yeah, Rattler, another Lincoln Riley QB that ironically got his job taken by Caleb Williams. Riley seems to have a type. Rattler was the most immature of them all and had a horrible final season at Oklahoma, before that season he was also projected to be a first overall pick like Mayfield and Murray. The only Lincoln Riley QB that has truly become a franchise QB in the NFL is Jalen Hurts, who only played at Oklahoma for one season after transferring from Alabama. Unlike Williams, Rattler, Murray, Mayfield, etc. Hurts has proven that he is capable of leading a locker room and being a great teammate. It took a couple years but he went from one of the worst QBs in the league to balling out in a close Super Bowl loss. That's partially due to his coachability, humbleness, and him being a natural leader, and I think playing for Nick Saban had something to do with that. I don't see any of those qualities in Caleb Williams as of right now. I still think he's certainly worth a first round pick just because of the talent and ceiling alone, but I certainly wouldn't take him with a top five pick.
Maybe Williams could eventually succeed if he was drafted by an organization with great coaching and veteran mentorship, but the Cardinals are far from that. The Cardinals would be the worst fit for him, at least the Raiders have Garoppolo and an offensive-minded coach in Josh McDaniels I guess. If the Cardinals had any sense they would draft a different QB or just keep Kyler for another year and take BPA, maybe Marvin Harrison Jr.
Once again I appreciate the feedback and you've earned a sub! I'm not even a Cardinals fan, I just hate seeing wasted talent and incompetent ownership flexing like they're a model organization or something.
Bro should have went to the MLB
Id pay to see him dealing with the A’s turmoil rn
He'd be on his way out of Oakland probably but his leadership wouldn't be coming into this kind of question... You gotta know that that comes with being a qb before you choose nfl over mlb
It's like hating reading but you're great at arguing so you become a lawyer
Jay Cutler had horrible stats his best season was a passer rating of 92 Kyler Murray was yelling at teammates when he was losing people talk shit but other QBs l do it and it's fine Murray had gotten better every year had down year last year DeAndre Hopkins just defended him so has Hollywood brown and Zach ertz but doesn't make headlines
No doubt, but cussing out your head coach in a prime time game and then throwing him under the bus in a press conference is bad for business.
The thing is that if you can win championships people will let you scream at others like Brady - it’s an earned perception - even still, the biggest red flag is what Patrick Peterson said about him.
His own offensive players could never come out against him, theyd be traded or exiled and never throw to
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@@joericottone Patrick Peterson threw his defense under the bus too when he was a cardinal Patrick Peterson would never take any blame for getting burned funny how the first year Peterson left Murray and cardinals were in playoffs and vikings weren't didn't hear anything not until last year when cardinals had down year Peterson criticism came and JJ watt and Budda baker on defense who both have higher character than Peterson has defended Murray as well
@@joericottone that head coach couldn't win with Patrick mahomes in college and people act like he was ever a winning coach
Thank you for your intelligent insight. People think sports is just yelling and fake commentary for views. No one I know in AZ like Cardinals unless you work for the team. It's all Cowboys. They're so petty they won't show Cowboy games if not showing horrible Cardinals games.
Appreciate it and thank you for watching!
Ya Cutler quit on my bears in my opinion
appreciate the opinion! thanks for watching
In usually bad at sports predictions but i take about gator arms was spot on, he was never a leader just a skilled guy.
thats a good call, thanks for watching!
Y’all want a grown man millionaire to motivate other grown men millionaires 😂
Maybe not motivate, they should be motivated already, but a QB should be able to unite all those millionaires, especially because each of them has their own ego and point of view that has been shaped by all their material success!
@@joericottone of getting paid millions to play a game ain’t enough motivation, that’s on u lol
Jay Cutler? 😂 Stop disrespecting my boy y’all tripping now 😂
Cards have a couple super high picks in next year’s draft- WHY EXTEND KYLEE?!
Great vid Joey
they didn’t have those picks when they extended him…
Really appreciate it thank you!
But they still gave him his injury prone homeboy , Hollywood Brown. You now have two little cry babies on one team.
true!
As a Cardinals fan I will say I like Kyler I’ve seen him play at MVP levels over the years. I hope with getting Kliff out maybe he can take that next step.
Me as well, thanks for the support!
Kliff wasn’t the issue. Yes Kliff isn’t a good head coach. But Kyle Murray is not a good person.
They are both effectively sociopaths.
Well done the most overrated QB in the league. K1is a bust and will be out of the league in a few years.
Thank you for watching! First 6 games of this season are make or break for sure!
Okay let's be honest about Jay Cutler. He was doing VERY well until Josh McDumbass got hired in Denver (listening Raiders). Hope the Raiders keep McDumbass.... Just lose Baby!
great nickname lol, thanks for watching
@@joericottone He is STILL the most hated man in Denver, Colorado!
I promise u bidwill pushed for the clause cause the guy listens to talk radio too damn much. We previously saw what an ultra-talented qb looks like without film study. It was Jamarcus Russell. You don't put up the numbers he has without watching some film. The media quoted "I don't kill myself watching film" as "I don't watch film". And yeah no they arent in the same position as with rosen. Kyler has actually proved himself capable of at least being top 16 in the league. That is a trash take.
I never claimed he didn't watch film or that he isn't talented, my stance is that he isn't a good leader and that handicaps your ability to go far because great players and free agents see the toxic personality that guides the flow of the team.
If they have the chance to draft Caleb Williams, they will, making it exactly like the Josh Rosen scenario, it's simply an upgrade they can't refuse
@@joericottone I mean your stance is backed by some loose evidence. Contract clause, talk show interview, and Patrick Peterson? Anyways no killing a franchise when it's the cardinals. I say that as a cards fan. I couldnt care less bout perceived leadership. Put and actual line around him and actually run plays under center and he will look just as good as the rest of these young guys people are clamoring about. Easy to look like a good leader when ur on a healthy, well run franchise.