The evaluation on Dorsey from people inside the Bills organization is apparently that he's super bright and gifted at developing a gameplan and scheming dudes open. But he struggled to make in game adjustments when DCs take away his coverage beaters. Also that he didn't really help give Allen easy answers, something that Joe Brady was able to do much better. I think that Dorsey and Stefanski could be a good marriage cuz we know Stefanski is still playcaller, which makes me think Dorsey is gonna me mostly focusing on QB coach duties. I think he can thrive in that role as we've seen. Also he provides a background with shotgun run game that we struggled with last year. Kevin will finally have someone, probably two coaches with Rees, up in the box that he can trust. Both Dorsey and Rees are ex QBs with big game playcalling experience. Excited to see what this new staff cooks up. Curious who we are gonna have replace Callahan now that he's gone
Personally I think Deshaun lost all his swag ever since the world sees him , mostly unjustly IMO, as a villain Coaching can't really help you with getting your mojo back
I agree with you call for needing more playmakers on offense. Cooper is getting older and shouldn't be expected to be our only guy at WR. I'm truly believing that Cedric Tillman will make a gigantic leap this year. We were confident enough to let peoples-jones go. I believe Tillman can become a very solid and steady number 2 WR to pair with cooper and Njoku.
The promising thing about Tillman is that it seems that it's only the mental side of the game that's limiting him. He has all the tools, very strong hands, he just can't line up correctly and adjust on the fly - year 2 should erase a lot of that
It's interesting to see the developments since this video was made one of which is Watson getting another weapon in Jerry Jeudy. It will be interesting to see if the same trend continues for him that it has for Amari Cooper and Elijah Moore. In a ten-year career Cooper had his best and third-best seasons as a Brown, and Moore had the most yards of his career with Cleveland. Jeudy's career-high is 972 yards and if he can follow suit the Browns' passing attack could be very formidable with Cooper, Jeudy, Njoku, and Moore.
Dorsey’s biggest issue was his inability (honestly more so unwillingness) to make changes during the game based on what the defense was giving him. He would go into games wanting to play a certain way regardless of who they were playing and rather than targeting the defenses weaknesses he wanted to run things the way he wanted and refused to adjust in game if it wasn’t working. If the Browns can force that stubbornness out of him then he should do just fine in Cleveland but the question is… can they?
Everyone forgets Goodell has delayed DeShaun and screwed the Browns for 11 games! He's only played 12 games in 2 seasons. He's 8-4. Goodell knew this would have an impact.., NFL couldn't afford DeShaun to hit the ground running. Period.
Nah Dorsey was the issue lol, he was great at scheming for the opening drives but he couldn’t make adjustments to counter dc adjusting. He also was bad at stringing along complimentary plays especially run plays, he also could not give the qb any easy layup plays
Bills fan-Dorsey was a good coach who did great considering he was a first time play-caller. His philosophy didn’t mesh well with Allen and the Bills’ offensive personnel; it happens. He did struggle with adjustments, but that is one of the hardest parts about being a coordinator. Also, the Bills players made a ton of mistakes and turned the ball over a ton, which, in large part, led to his firing. Lastly, if you ask me, he was a victim of Daboll’s leftovers. Daboll was very overrated, and Dorsey was essentially forced to run his system. I will always have a soft spot for him and wish him nothing but the best in Cleveland!
@@someperson8151 no, not a soul wanted Jim. Everybody wanted Mike Flores because he’s cool with Watson and would’ve replace Kevin if this season was in the gutter. It’s not revisionist history it’s a fact. If you were to take the time to go back and find a lot of the takes from Cleveland media at the time, nobody was happy about it.
I’ll say this if we do implement his system the wide receiver room needs 2-3 capable wide receivers. We need to be like the cheifs as far A’s having multiple guys to do multiple things and we didn’t see that under van pelt.
The fact that the browns dumped coaches after an 11-6 season is mystifying. They threw the last game, so they could have been 12-5. They didn't show up for the Playoff game. I'll never understand this franchise. Grab an OC that got fired halfway through the season. Geez...
Great vid as always. History will show this will be the turning point. As long as Chubb is at least 80% of what he was he’d still be a top 10 RB and we get one more dynamic “ball carrier” like you’ve been saying….skys the limit
Ken Dorsey is a good OC, his problems weren't game planning it was play calling during he game. Problem with Dorsey he was following a offensive genius, Brian Daboll is in the class of Andy Reid when it came to play calling. Just look at the last game Daboll and Allen shared the 13 second game. Allen Daboll went toe to toe with Mahomes Reid and gave Buffalo the lead with 13 seconds left the offense never saw the field again that game.
Watson is not a project, for anyone, including Dorsey. Watson is not a rookie. He has his own style .Dorsey will have to work his offense around what Watson does best.
Unfortunately, yes it was lol he gave Josh little to no short passing game and he wanted to push the ball down the field. Notice that Josh didn’t have any of those arm punts after Brady took over?
A, Ken Dorsey is a fantastic Qb coach and play designer however as a play caller he lacks in game adjustments and became predictable. Something you failed to mention is that Ken Dorsey’s time as Bills offensive coordinator was his first time calling plays at any level. There’s a difference between designing plays and gamelan and calling them. I believe If Ken Dorsey primarily focuses as a Qb coach / play designer this could be a great hire. If Ken Dorsey calls plays this could be a bad hire
Explain what you mean by that - the point I’m making is regardless of if he’s calling plays or not he’s shown that he’s a great asset for QBs and should help to implement some more explosive philosophy to the play sheet. I don’t have that kind if info
You’re aware it doesn’t matter who calls plays, right? Besides, he had success with newton as a qb coach, as well as Allen. Both years he wasn’t calling plays. But I digress
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The evaluation on Dorsey from people inside the Bills organization is apparently that he's super bright and gifted at developing a gameplan and scheming dudes open. But he struggled to make in game adjustments when DCs take away his coverage beaters. Also that he didn't really help give Allen easy answers, something that Joe Brady was able to do much better. I think that Dorsey and Stefanski could be a good marriage cuz we know Stefanski is still playcaller, which makes me think Dorsey is gonna me mostly focusing on QB coach duties. I think he can thrive in that role as we've seen. Also he provides a background with shotgun run game that we struggled with last year. Kevin will finally have someone, probably two coaches with Rees, up in the box that he can trust. Both Dorsey and Rees are ex QBs with big game playcalling experience. Excited to see what this new staff cooks up. Curious who we are gonna have replace Callahan now that he's gone
definitely, the collaboration potential could be huge. Thanks for watching and the thoughtful comment!
Personally I think Deshaun lost all his swag ever since the world sees him , mostly unjustly IMO, as a villain
Coaching can't really help you with getting your mojo back
How do you not have 75k subscribers? Bills fan here, checking your stuff out. This one caught my eye. Nice work man. Go Bills
I love Quincy and your content please make more
appreciate that, there's quite a few videos that have been dropped since!
Another great vid! I like Dorsey and his NFL track record working with super athletic QB's. I rate it as a solid move
Thanks for watching! I second that!
I agree with you call for needing more playmakers on offense. Cooper is getting older and shouldn't be expected to be our only guy at WR. I'm truly believing that Cedric Tillman will make a gigantic leap this year. We were confident enough to let peoples-jones go. I believe Tillman can become a very solid and steady number 2 WR to pair with cooper and Njoku.
The promising thing about Tillman is that it seems that it's only the mental side of the game that's limiting him. He has all the tools, very strong hands, he just can't line up correctly and adjust on the fly - year 2 should erase a lot of that
It's interesting to see the developments since this video was made one of which is Watson getting another weapon in Jerry Jeudy. It will be interesting to see if the same trend continues for him that it has for Amari Cooper and Elijah Moore. In a ten-year career Cooper had his best and third-best seasons as a Brown, and Moore had the most yards of his career with Cleveland. Jeudy's career-high is 972 yards and if he can follow suit the Browns' passing attack could be very formidable with Cooper, Jeudy, Njoku, and Moore.
4:38 Callahan leaving will be tough for the Brown's to just shrug off IMO
He leaves a positive OL culture behind him after 4 seasons. All those guys are returning. They just need to stay healthy.
Dorsey’s biggest issue was his inability (honestly more so unwillingness) to make changes during the game based on what the defense was giving him. He would go into games wanting to play a certain way regardless of who they were playing and rather than targeting the defenses weaknesses he wanted to run things the way he wanted and refused to adjust in game if it wasn’t working. If the Browns can force that stubbornness out of him then he should do just fine in Cleveland but the question is… can they?
Everyone forgets Goodell has delayed DeShaun and screwed the Browns for 11 games! He's only played 12 games in 2 seasons. He's 8-4. Goodell knew this would have an impact.., NFL couldn't afford DeShaun to hit the ground running. Period.
Dorsey is a fine hire. People complaining don’t know anything about ball. It’s a OC. Calm the F down
thanks for watching, agreed! we'll have to see how it plays out
Yeah we dont know anything about ball; the browns do… and so do you, apparently . 😂
@@thacryinggame go cry about it some more than kiddo
I'm.... Optimistic about Dorsey. I like that we are willing to make changes.
Nah Dorsey was the issue lol, he was great at scheming for the opening drives but he couldn’t make adjustments to counter dc adjusting. He also was bad at stringing along complimentary plays especially run plays, he also could not give the qb any easy layup plays
Bills fan-Dorsey was a good coach who did great considering he was a first time play-caller. His philosophy didn’t mesh well with Allen and the Bills’ offensive personnel; it happens. He did struggle with adjustments, but that is one of the hardest parts about being a coordinator. Also, the Bills players made a ton of mistakes and turned the ball over a ton, which, in large part, led to his firing. Lastly, if you ask me, he was a victim of Daboll’s leftovers. Daboll was very overrated, and Dorsey was essentially forced to run his system. I will always have a soft spot for him and wish him nothing but the best in Cleveland!
It’s funny because people didn’t like the Schwartz move last season too. It’ll be fun to see.
Uhhhh, no. Everyone loved the Schwartz hire.
Take a seat, paid Haslam puppet.
Stop the revisionist history. Everybody loved the Schwartz hire. Browns fan wanted Joe Woods gone a year sooner.
@@someperson8151 no, not a soul wanted Jim. Everybody wanted Mike Flores because he’s cool with Watson and would’ve replace Kevin if this season was in the gutter. It’s not revisionist history it’s a fact. If you were to take the time to go back and find a lot of the takes from Cleveland media at the time, nobody was happy about it.
@@mylesjaedin1154 Selective memory. Look up the video "Jim Schwartz Introductory Press Conference" and read the comments.
I’ll say this if we do implement his system the wide receiver room needs 2-3 capable wide receivers. We need to be like the cheifs as far A’s having multiple guys to do multiple things and we didn’t see that under van pelt.
I loved the style of this video today, another Joey banger!
Thanks so much man! appreciate the feedback, definitely a labor of love!
The fact that the browns dumped coaches after an 11-6 season is mystifying. They threw the last game, so they could have been 12-5. They didn't show up for the Playoff game. I'll never understand this franchise. Grab an OC that got fired halfway through the season. Geez...
It’s all Haslams doing. He’s a stupid human-being.
Fire vid per usual. Keep killing it!
Thanks bro!
Really appreciate this video. Really turned my pessimism into optimism for the hire
Appreciate you watching!
Great vid as always. History will show this will be the turning point. As long as Chubb is at least 80% of what he was he’d still be a top 10 RB and we get one more dynamic “ball carrier” like you’ve been saying….skys the limit
Thanks so much man, appreciate it!
Once again Great content!! GO Browns! In Stefanski we trust!
Thank you, and yes sir!
Ken Dorsey is a good OC, his problems weren't game planning it was play calling during he game. Problem with Dorsey he was following a offensive genius, Brian Daboll is in the class of Andy Reid when it came to play calling. Just look at the last game Daboll and Allen shared the 13 second game. Allen Daboll went toe to toe with Mahomes Reid and gave Buffalo the lead with 13 seconds left the offense never saw the field again that game.
Nice monstera behind you! I got one just one like it lol
haha thank you!
Watson is not a project, for anyone, including Dorsey. Watson is not a rookie. He has his own style .Dorsey will have to work his offense around what Watson does best.
Absolutely, just like he did with Newton and Allen
The number one objective is to win the division (and yeah that comes from Watson at his best with the best)
no doubt
It wasn’t Ken Dorsey’s fault that Josh Allen kept throwing arm punts
dorsey sucks enjoy em
Why do you say that? Would love to hear your perspective!
Unfortunately, yes it was lol he gave Josh little to no short passing game and he wanted to push the ball down the field. Notice that Josh didn’t have any of those arm punts after Brady took over?
A, Ken Dorsey is a fantastic Qb coach and play designer however as a play caller he lacks in game adjustments and became predictable. Something you failed to mention is that Ken Dorsey’s time as Bills offensive coordinator was his first time calling plays at any level. There’s a difference between designing plays and gamelan and calling them. I believe If Ken Dorsey primarily focuses as a Qb coach / play designer this could be a great hire. If Ken Dorsey calls plays this could be a bad hire
Wasnt dorkey already with the browns already. So what happens when watson still sucks lmao
He played for the Browns, Daboll is a former Browns OC
@@joericottone I knew it was something and I do remember that he wasn't and very good if I remember right
That’s why I rate this hire……. JUSTIFIED!
Joe Brady>>>
Can you answer whether or not Dorsey will call plays? If you can't then this video means nothing.
Explain what you mean by that - the point I’m making is regardless of if he’s calling plays or not he’s shown that he’s a great asset for QBs and should help to implement some more explosive philosophy to the play sheet. I don’t have that kind if info
He wasn’t calling plays under Brian Dabol and still got the most out of Allen
You’re aware it doesn’t matter who calls plays, right? Besides, he had success with newton as a qb coach, as well as Allen. Both years he wasn’t calling plays. But I digress
@@Mugatta75Isn't that OP's point. You DON'T WANT him calling plays. I'm a Bills fan and that's a very valid criticism of him.