Deshaun Watson isn't that guy anymore.
Vložit
- čas přidán 20. 06. 2024
- Deshaun Watson has been one of the worst quarterbacks in the league over the past two years. Safe to say, his stint in Cleveland so far has been underwhelming, and many are questioning whether he'll ever return to his heights in Houston ever again. But maybe the big question is not whether that Texans version is coming back. It's if the Browns can get him to a point where he is good enough to win with their roster.
Time Stamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:10 - One of the worst QBs in the league
3:02 - The $230 million question
6:26 - Watson and Dorsey pairing
8:17 - Film study
14:05 - Conclusion
Credits:
All stats from Pro Football Reference.
James Jones clip: / 1790494798836908410
Deshaun Watson contract breakdown: www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/de...
Russell Wilson dead money record: www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/3...
Ken Dorsey press conference: • Ken Dorsey "I'm excite...
Follow me on Twitter: / fbdoesntmatter - Sport
As a Texans fan, I felt disappointed when we lost Watson but now I'm glad we did because having CJ Stroud really changed the entire franchise
I totally agree CJ already a Top 3
You guys really got a franchise QB in Watson and then traded him for a bunch of picks and the proceeded to get someone arguably better. Must have been a crazy 2-4 years for Texans fans
super happy for you it's nice to see
@@LorenzoRogers-of7isno td he isn’t man y’all over doing this shit
@@lampinicalling stroud better than Watson is crazy😭
The Russel Wilson fiasco really overshadowed the Watson fiasco.
yeah if he flops, that goes down as one of the worst contracts of all time. You could make the case it already is.
Still nothing on the Lupe Fiasco… I’ll see my way out.
@mattvargashasyourback
Actual brain empty take.
Russ isn't even bad💀 mid maybe but he's not Watson bad
So far…
Either he's cooked, in which case this contract is a massive disaster. Or he's at best, good in which case this contract is a massive disaster.
Good meaning the browns have a good qb and they’re winning. Def a big mistake 😂
@@onlyonezay419 yeah, dude is getting paid to be a top 5 QB, if he's at best 15, it's a disaster for that clown show of an organization
@@tykendall3750 and again if winning is a disaster I will gladly take that. We got 11 wins with some of the worse QB play all year just imagine if he IS JUST TOP 15 😂😂😂😂😂 I will take it buddy
@@onlyonezay419And Watson being good will get you what? Divisionals? A Conference? And even if it’s the best case scenario and they scrape their way to a superbowl, a team that has Watson starting at QB is not winning it. The Browns eviscerated a 5th of their cap space on a mid QB they can’t trade for 5 years, in his 2 years so far, Watson started a grand total of 12 games, lost a third of them, has yet to play a full season, will be coming back from a shoulder surgery this year and isn’t getting any younger. Call me crazy but I’m not entirely optimistic about the prospects of him winning the city of Cleveland a Superbowl despite being paid as such.
@@Ballin4Vengeance lmao you made a long ass paragraph just off negativity now try positivity
When Watson sat out the whole year in 2021, I think it completely destroyed his ability to really play football. 2 years of not playing and not really practicing that whole time can just obliterate your skills
His mental too. Gone. You can tell he's just not the same at all. Lost his IT factor. But hey. He's 250 mill richer. The browns deserve that curse. As soon as it lifts they do some dumb shit to get it right back. Here's to another 50 years of brown stains in Cleveland
Bro got fully guaranteed and said "Aight, I don't even have to try now" Browns doing Browns things.
You do know he was 4-1 last year before he got hurt right
@aliciarobinson8636 true but he didn't look good doing it is the issue 💀
@@trentonbates1807 Really So looking good has taken precedence over winning now maybe you can ask Trevor Lawrence and Justin Herbert how much looking good helped them make the playoffs last year IJS
@aliciarobinson8636 you do know he had 1 quality win. You dum dum trashland fans think him having good games against Arizona and Tennessee (teams as good as you mistakes) makes him worth 3 1st rounders ans 230 fully guaranteed 😂😂😂
@@aliciarobinson8636Herbert was injured and nobody thinks T Lawrence is good, damn you're dumb.
This is why Nick Caserio's bluff was genius. He forced all teams who were vying for Watson's services to show their hand before negotiations started.
Caserio has been a blessing for us.
@@Nicholas-HTX just like berry for the browns just remember if warson falls flat I GURANTEE a ELITE QB will find their way to Cleveland the roster is too good
Deshaun Weinstein is toast and will be a Zombie Contract that wrecks this whole window for an otherwise very good team.
All while being a total piece of crap human being.
and the 3 first round picks and then some
So glad Cleveland took him off our hands, whew!
@@bobbythorton7693you do realize that Cleveland will have a first rounder in the 2025 draft, right? As a big Cleveland fan not exactly happy with the QB situation, I can appreciate that the Browns haven’t missed much draft wise…even cap space wise.
The browns are 3 seasons into the deal and have had 0 cap casualties and drafted multiple starters in the “window”. Contracts do not matter if an owner is willing to spend it. This isn’t Cincinnati.
"Kind of a creep" that is putting it lightly. 26 allegations he us just a creep
Not to mention the 50 different masseuses he went to once each.
@@warlordofbritannia while having a girlfriend
not one Indictment
So he likes women and that’s creepy lol !!!!
@@warlordofbritannia He had appointments with 66 different women... it's mindboggling what must be going though his head, but I guess we know. He's as dumb as a box of rocks.
Watson just isn’t meant for a west coast style timing offense like the Browns had until the end of this season. Former Bears personnel guy Josh Lucas described how Watson makes a living outside of structure instead of quickly getting rid of the ball in time when his back leg hits the ground on a 3-5 step drop. Not a Watson fan but I believe he’s going to play very well this season which will make the Browns a contender. Browns vs Ravens is going to be a good rivalry for the next 2-3 seasons.
wow an actual logical take...we dont see these often
In other words, he needs to run around looking for open receivers and then tucking and running... and getting injured. Brilliant. Maybe Watson needs spend some time learning to quarterback like a big boy in the big boy game instead of pretending he's in college. Perhaps if he spent less time in opulent palaces in Saudi Arabia, and more time studying film... but that ain't happenin'
@@runningbeard7380 You definitely have a point. I was following Clemson when Watson became the QB. Ppl forget that the offense was changed a little, some would say simplified, for his last season after falling one game short of the championship the year before. Josh Lucas described why NFL teams passed on him, including the Browns. They saw a guy with incredible talent in every aspect a QB needs but when they excluded plays outside of structure they had concerns that he would struggle in NFL offenses.
Now is that because he doesn’t put enough time into film study? Is it that he hasn’t embraced processing the game like other pro QBs? I don’t know. But when he goes off script & just tries to make something happen he’s successful at moving the chains & scoring. He does things that are a lot of fun to watch. Whatever the case the Browns have to keep him on the team for 3 more seasons so they got a new OC who will install an offense that maximizes Watson’s chances of scoring. With that defense the Browns can win games scoring 20 points. I believe Watson will have a good year & there will be plenty of highlight plays & an offense that’s fun to watch. I believe they’ll win at least 11 games this season & will be a threat to beat any team on any given Sunday.
Well said, even as a ravens fan I’m excited that he’s in the division. Makes for better football, long as he Lamar and burrow stay healthy
They actually ran a “west coast” offense in 2020 in his best season statistically
He doesn’t care anymore if he’s good or not. That fully guaranteed contract was all he needed to hear. It’s really too bad what happened with him, dude was electric when on the Texans
Yeah I agree, it’s too bad he turned out to be a predator. 🤡🫵
@@eb-xm5ds B-BUT IT'S JUST ALL- I think if 26 people said they got SA'd by him, then at least 3 or 4 are right. Second chances don't even work, as he used it on the second woman.
@@eb-xm5dswhere is the court results?
@@blairdecker3735 you’re weird af
Can’t feel bad, he has no one to blame but himself.
He really just needs to stay healthy
Okay, so basically this dude was one of the best qb’s in the league playing for a mediocre team. The moment he rioted to not play for this team, all the allegations come running in. Now, don’t you find that suspicious??? Two seasons with the Cleveland Browns, he only plays a hand full of games. And he wins most of these games. So now think about this, it usually takes a rookie qb a season to settle into the league and dude barely played a whole season. So I don’t get why we’re judging when he’s only played 12 games between two seasons since he’s joined the team and he’s won 8 out of the 12 games. So we need to be realistic, and this about if dude had a whole season to play. Because I ain’t no math major, but he seems to be doing a better job than most qbs in the league from a W/L standpoint.
Nailed it, my friend.
A pitcher goes 15-5 but has a 4.50 era... oh, btw, the team leads the league in home runs.
@@runningbeard7380great points. Just like the browns won, but in spite of watsons poor individual play. Having a top 3 defense in nfl definitely helps.
@@SETHYSMALLZ it's called an analogy, look it up
@@anthonypa8045 Exactly.
I’m gonna make a prediction, that this take doesn’t age well as this season progresses
If the Browns are good, I am happy
Ken dorsey runs a verticals. You better hope Watson didn't lose any arm strength
I’m going to make a prediction that you’re wrong. If anything they’ll be no more excuses for watson.
This whole video don’t sit well with me. Watson was 5-1. With the occasional bad game he had 4 good games to total to it. It makes no sense to me how someone who leads a team to wins simply, “doesn’t have it anymore”. Now look if it shows this season then I’ll go ahead and rebuke the claim but going off last years film he is 100% still a top 10 QB, which is extremely hard to be. I’m not saying the browns are winning the Super Bowl, but to say they aren’t contenders is flat out stupid. Especially with their defense as good as it is. Deshaun can be a shell of himself and still take this team to the Super Bowl. Which was kinda apparent last season. Which could attest more to how good Deshaun Watson really was before. When an MVP contender takes two years off, it takes time to get the game back. Not to compare his player demographic to Jordan, but he retired then came back. Jordan got sent home that year by the damn Magic, WHO GOT SWEPT IN THE FINALS😭. Deshaun just needs time.
@RipliWitani you hope he did you bum😂😂😂
My brother loves to be a contrarian and keeps tryna tell me that Watson is a good player because.... Teaching his win loss ratio is positive on the Browns 😮💨
Flacco also went 5-1 😂😂
I miss Baker
I bet seeing him aul the Eagleswhile you got mauled by the team you gave all the picks too felt amazing! HAHA!
Baker was a perfect fit for the Browns. I thought he’d be a Brown for life 😢
Baker has been undeniably better than watson since the trade. Browns gave up 3 first rd picks and 6 picks total to get worse at qb.
And the crazy part is that Baker actually wanted to be here.
I don't. Baker needs everything to be perfect to succeed. Like playing in great conditions and in the worst division in football. Browns are the complete opposite. I know it easy to compare but it's not just black and white.
Thank you for being a browns fan (online) who isn't out of his mind. A rarity these days.
11-5 and we’re out of our minds ? After some of the worse QB play and some of the best defense we ever had😂 knock it off
@@onlyonezay4191 and done in the playoffs, the rest of the league just had killer drafts. The browns got curb stomped by the team they traded the farm too and yet here you are kidding yourself this all somehow good?
well hes guaranteed his whole contract so he has nothing to prove. dumbest signing in nfl history up their with haynsworth
You need to research this a little bit. "Guaranteed" is not really meaningful; when a guy makes that much money he's uncuttable whether the $ is "guaranteed" or not.
Lmao I’ll be back here after this season either yall will shit on me or I’ll shit on yall 😂 I see no reason why if hes healthy we (the browns) won’t be good.
Because you're the clowns, durrrrr, there's a reason why you mistake on the Lakers wear bags on their heads
The browns are good, he hasn’t been. That’s the point of the vid.
Don't worry, cleveland will shit on you.
@StayPuftMarshmellow you're on every comment 🤡🤡🤡
Typical blk you only like Watson for his skin color
If he plays the full season this video will age HORRIBLY. Dude is 28 I believe. All he needs is to STAY on the field and he will find his rhythm and become top 10 again.
I believe that he will play well with the new offense. They didn’t bring in a new OC because Flacco struggled in the last game of the year. They did it because Watson just isn’t meant for a west coast style timing offense like the Browns had until the end of this season. Former Bears personnel guy Josh Lucas described how Watson makes a living outside of structure instead of quickly getting rid of the ball in time when his back leg hits the ground on a 3-5 step drop. Not a Watson fan but I believe he’s going to play very well this season which will make the Browns a contender. Browns vs Ravens is going to be a good rivalry for the next 2-3 seasons.
Watson career rating is better than Allen & burrow and that’s including his past 2 shitty seasons. But they’ll say INT Allen is a top qb lmfao 🤣
In what year?
It won't matter. Browns ain't beating the Chiefs or even th Texans. The Texans completely erased Myles Garret because CJ is a real west coast QB and can get the ball out
lol, never
Those massages were his special sauce apparently lol
🤣🤣🤣
Crazy how people are so quick to write a player off 😂
That’s just the nature of the game🤷🏽♂️
Bro has not produced a good season of football in 5 years now.
they do the same thing with Trey Lance
Why not? The league wrote Baker Mayfield off, are you expecting special treatment for Deshaun Watson? Particularlry when he's done little to demonstrate that he gives one teensy FK?
Baker outplayed Watson by a mile last year 😂
This man is not done, y’all simply wanna write him off when he hasn’t been able to play a full season because of his legal troubles.
cope harder
and health. How many years has it been since he's played?
how often in NFL history has a player been great then have 3 seasons of being bottom 5 in the league or injured/suspended and then return to being even good.. no matter the circumstances... its extremely rare
Yes, because his "legal troubles"... quite the euphemism.
I think only playing 3 consecutive games last season is gonna hurt his consistency. He’ll be fine, all the stuff you complained about is easily coachable and fixable.
There’s qbs in the league that don’t need coached and fixed. No one’s waiting for him to figure it out and the browns passing on all these high end picks will catch up with them even more. Have you guys seen the talent other teams have acquired?
What's more painful, the contract, or the draft picks given up for him?
neither. the most painful thing is the 3 years off of Chubb and Ward and Garrett's and Bitonios and Tellers and Njokus and Coopers and everyone else's career. this is a really good football team. it just needs a qb to play at its level and we could contend for a superbowl
You sound slow Deshaun deserved every penny of his contract for what he did in Houston he went to multiple pro bowls and far as draft picks Browns had a ton of high draft picks how that work out Browns were a laughing stock before the Watson trade name one Browns quarterback that went on the road and beat the best team in football at that time Deshaun played so well against the titans and Cardinals he didn’t even finish the game slow fans brainwashed into believing Deshaun can’t play anymore because haters say so 😂
A little bit of both. The worst thing is deshaun hasn't even been mid. He ranks 25th or lower in passer rating, qbr, and pff grade since joining the browns and he only averages 185 yards per game. Last year in 6 starts he had 7 tds and 6 turnover. The dude is a joke now. This is one off the biggest falloffs I've ever seen.
@@douglaspurcell7506 They need a QB who wants to play in Cleveland, a leader, someone the team rallies around. That isn't Deshaun, everyone is pretending because they have to.
@@runningbeard7380 I'm not going to pretend that I know deshaun or that I know how anyone else on the team feels about him. I think just based off of what we've seen from him when he played last year, we could have been a 12 or 13 win team with him at the helm. people tend to forget that he only had the one loss as a starter last year and that he actually was starting to heat up as the season went on. I think that's the reason people are so frustrated. it's the not knowing. if we could just see a full season from him this year we could know for sure
This guy lost 2 years of football due to his own stupidity. He has no confidence and has shown no reason that it will get better. The browns are boned with no end in sight.
I think they’ll make the playoffs but then get dusted again.
I’m a Texans season ticket holder and I have seen Watson play in person more than 2 dozen times. To hear people say, “Get back to who he was in Houston,” is so funny to me. Because the national media had to ask nearly every week, “Which Deshaun are we going to see this Sunday?” He was electric at times, but he was also aloof and seemingly unconcerned at times on the field. He had amazing stats in 2020, but only won 4 games and during his time he was barely a .500 QB. As someone that has seen him play a ton, I can guarantee you, you’re not going to the Super Bowl with him.
When he was in Houston he was barely a pro he made multiple pro bowls as young quarterback finding his way as a pro only Dam Marino came into the NFL on fire Montana,Elway, Brady, Bradshaw and so many others developed into a great quarterbacks so to say a young pro bowl quarterback can’t get better is ridiculous Deshaun time in Houston wasn’t even his prime yet
@@bkbrown7489 Okay
Hey...how's it feel to support the organization that created and enabled the culture that led to not only Watson settling with the women that brought a suit, but the organization settling as well?
Hey...how's it feel to support the organization that created and enabled the culture that led to not only Watson settling with the women that brought a suit, but the organization settling as well?
@@draimonshepherd1791 Check out how much they’ve done since then. It’ll drive you crazy!
Deshaun Watson went from an up and coming stud franchise QB to being famously one of the worst trades of all time and falling off unlike any QB ever has
What was the dude after Peyton manning? He fell off as soon as he went to Houston? Osweiler?... not Watsons pedigree out of college of course
He was really never even that good too he was a huge statpadder with the Texans
Glad we got rid of that deadweight
-H Town 4 Life🤘🏉💪💯🚀
When you do bad things, bad things happen
you are showing games from game 1 or 2, this man had alot of rust
The ravens game was like week 10, what are you talking about. Never ending excuses.
@@StayPuftMarshmellow and guess what that was his best highlight, u just proved me right
Not saying it’s impossible, but it’s EXTREMELY unlikely a guy that hasn’t played quality football for 4 years is able to get back to anything close to what he was.
I was thinking why can’t the Browns ever have a normal season…then I realized this IS a normal season for us 😂
If Cleveland fans want to have hope in Watson then thats their perogative, Im just ecstatically happy that we in Houston dont have to deal with him anymore. We now have a young, lights out , balls to the wall franchise QB because of Watson and the Browns.
You got me, I love Deshaun Watson slander 😂
Brissett played better than him and Ill die on that hill
I also really liked Brissett that year! I was honestly a little disappointed we didn't get to see more of him in Washington last year.
It’s not slander if it’s true
Yup brissett led browns in passer rating, qbr, yards, tds, and pff grade in 2022. Then flacco in 2023. Watson making 230mil and aint led the browns in passing yet. 😂
It's very fashionable to talk up Brissett like he's good, but you know what? he is NOT good. It's true that Watson could sleep walk his way to an 11-6 record on roll outs, keepers... play action passing, etc. as long as they can collect 150 yards rushing a game, that'll happen. But Watson isn't a pocket passer, he likes to move, and he will get injured. Jameis Winston will have more pass attempts than Watson, that's my prediction.
Allegations aside, they did rob him of 2 years. I don't know if anybody comes back the same from that
Who is they? Dude sat out one year cause he wanted to get traded and collected a check in Houston. Then got suspended cause he couldn't keep it in his pants. Its on him.
Nope, he sat out one year. That’s all on him.
“Allegations aside” doesn’t work when they’re the reason you missed one year. The other year is exclusively on him btw, he easily could’ve played
@@maroc-al-helmidi
He didn’t even miss a year due to them. Just 11 weeks…about 2 quarters per (alleged) assault.
That's his bum ass fault
The first example your assessment is wrong. If he makes that pass across the field the under DB or Safety would make a play
Are you blind? Flacco was making those throws and putting up numbers the browns haven’t seen in decades.
...how do you only have 5K subs?
This is really really good film breakdown fren.
Keep it up Cozy now subscribed.
Deshaun Watson was framed. He was not a creep.
Shout out to BAKER MAYFIELD 🫡
Massage therapy would get Watson right and back to Houston mode.
Every year the browns didn’t have a first rounder, they still drafted first round talent. JOK (2nd rd), Delpit (2nd rd) Emerson (3rd rd), Dewand Jones (4th rd). So they didn’t mortgage their future.
When a 27 year QB that’s produced like Watson did up to that point, of course he was paid 230 million. He’ll get his contract will get reconstructed every year and his salary hit will be nothing will be realistic.
Watsons only shitty game was week 2 on national TV which is why every national TV analysis is wrong when they talk about Watson. He looked good in every game but Pittsburgh.
We should judge Watsons success on games against the AFC north, other elite QB’s, and playoff success. Oh yeah, and also being healthy. He hasn’t played a full season in Cleveland yet.
Bro, he’s had like 3 good halfs in 2 seasons. Flacco unlocked players like Njoku & Cooper like Watson has been unable to.
Giving him all the money guaranteed was totally insane
Plus all of those draft choices.
There are numerous inaccuracies in this video. It's difficult to comprehend how one could extrapolate from a single clip in a game where the Browns win due to Deshaun's performance and assert that he is among the worst quarterbacks in the league. Crazy!! A game where he's 14-14 in the second half despite a shoulder injury, leading the Browns to victory over the Ravens and outperforming the MVP.
The "film breakdown" exhibits significant bias through its selection of unfavorable clips and biased interpretations. For instance, the first two clips are compared unfairly, as they are from different weeks, with the order implying that the second week came before the first. This overlooks the natural progression and improvement that can occur from one week to the next. Furthermore, the breakdown fails to acknowledge the adverse weather conditions in week one, where neither quarterback could grip the ball due to heavy rain. This omission raises questions about the fairness and accuracy of the analysis.
His QBR is pretty damn low, and the reason for it is the big misses that the games shown exhibit.
You seen ALL of his stats are bad man. Qbr, passer rating, pff grade, completion percentage, yards per game, tds. Why defend a qb that ranks 25th or lower in everything.
@@runningbeard7380
If you were closely following the games throughout the season, you would have noticed a quarterback slowly finding his rhythm after a break from football, initially caused by legal issues and later by injuries. During the 2023 season, he only managed to play three consecutive games at most (Week 1-3), so it's difficult to expect strong offensive chemistry to develop under such circumstances.
It's quite surprising how little attention the significance of Nick Chubb's injury on the Browns' offense receives, especially considering they operate a play-action style offense.
Cope harder.
watson is so cooked and done, he gets the reigns this year but I'm not sure Huntley can't outseat him, and looking at '25 on who knows. the contract is bad but 46m a year is tame in the higher salary cap league.
He had potential. Think he believed the hype about his play instead of putting in time in practice.
These clips against Watson are so cherry-picked it’s insane. Watson played most of the season injured. You didn’t mention in either of the week 1 clips the conditions; It wasn’t 80 and sunny, It was cold and down pouring through the majority of the game. A game which Joe Burrow had 85 yards of total offence and looked horrible. And yet Watson was able to command his team to a win. And the pick-6 against the Steelers is on Bryant. Sure the ball was a little over thrown but that’s a ball you need to come down with especially after the bobbling that’s not on Watson be fr.
At the end of the day you have nothing but excuses you’re cherry picking.
Fuck man... I am so sorry that you are a Browns fan. I wish you had kept the Cheesecake Factory enthusiast! Anyways, great breakdown as always. 🤝👍
lol, I’ll always be a fan of Baker!
Thanks for the kind words
@@footballdoesntmatter played against him in high school in the playoffs, he carried his team to beat us to make the State championship, Sorry about your GM or ownership. Whoever gave him up
Watson finna return to pro bowl Texans form this season I am Texans fan glad we got cj but browns fans finna be happy they got Watson this season watch see ✌️💯
Wanna bet >
Doubt it. He looks washed. Scared on the field
His 4-12 form? Or blowing a 24 point lead in the playoffs? Which form we talking about here?
He tore his lis frank
Browns should’ve tried to make a deal for Trey Lance from Jerry Jones.
Then you realize he was 5-1 as a starter last year before his injuries.
To think that two of the dumbest trades, if not THE two dumbest trades in NFL History, happened IN THE SAME YEAR!
Deshuan World, or How I Spent My Offseason Vacation...
"I had a nice time in opulent palaces while kissin' Saudi a$$... and making more off the interest of Browns money than the majority of these slobs in Cleveland will make in a lifetime...". he has no fire, and no clue... but that's what fans have to live with for a few more years. I truly hope Baker Mayfield continues to go about his business actually playing with passion and helping his team win, while Deshaun is living in Deshaun World.
They treat Baker like crap and mortgage the future for Watson ! Such a Brown's thing to do
Baker couldn’t cut it.🤷🏾♂️
Baker went 9-8 in the NFC south. Made the playoffs beacuse of the weak divison and did baker things. (4th qtr interception) WE DONT MISS THAT
@@lamontrankinjr.280 Baker takes every team he goes to to the paly-offs. He was btter than Watson's weird asz
@@PatriotWatchUSAwhy didn’t he take the Rams or the Panthers to the playoffs
@@lamontrankinjr.280 you can’t be serious with this comment. Watson’s done jack all in 2 years with the browns and will be lucky to be 9-8 this year. Cannot wait for the incoming reality check.
idk what to say as a fellow football fan from Cleveland. from my pov, its this surreal and yet unrealistically tragic black mirror, black comedy that is a contradiction of itself to just have any type of prior association with the factory of sadness. where i can simultaneously not be a fan of the team, and it have nothing to do with Deshaun repping as the franchise face. but more because of the process of decision making that led to Deshaun Watson contract being an example of why you stopped being a fan of the team. one of many consistent examples, that makes the entire organization unreliable. to the point that one of the best decisions they've ever made (drafting Myles Garrett) is simultaneously one of the worst decisions ever (passing on Patrick mahomes) and it even hurts more if ur me and you saw it coming literally on draft night and ur a day 1 believer in pat's game. the sheer timeline and price asset management wise of that mistake is enough alone to lose faith in this team, when you consider that on this very night they not only refused to trade up for mahomes, but they then traded the pick that selected Deshaun Watson to the texans, this becomes a sequence of events a writer wouldn't even attempt because of how improbable it logically is to ever happen at the end of the day. so believe me when i say there is far better reasons to hate the browns than deshaun watson and the worst part of all it is the fact that you inextricably, inexplicably feel empathy and relate the painful context of the history that made the decision for itself personally, having grown up a fan of the team. it's as brutal an emotional conflict that a fan of any team of any sport will ever experience for those who don't know what it's like.
You're a moron if you hold "passing on Patrick mahomes" against the browns. Stop being a browns fans we dont like morons.
As a texans fan I was shocked we were 2 picks away from Patrick. That bring said Browns and Bears will never win anything
Damn had they kept Baker Mayfield and those picks, Browns would've been an even stronger and deeper SB contender by now.
No they wouldn’t Mayfield is trash when it counts no way faker Mayfield is beating the top quarterbacks in the AFC he made the pro bowl out of default in the NFC because the NFC is weak at quarterback and the Browns had tons of draft picks before the Watson trade how that work out for the Browns .
Definitely. Browns roster with bakers production. 4000+ yards 30 td only 10 ints. If he won another playoff game with Tampa bad team. He probably could've took brownies all the way to superbowl. One thing is for sure, is he has outplayed watson in every single way since the trade
@@anthonypa8045😂😂😂
@@bkbrown7489 crazy how good baker looks now Tampa had the 32nd ranked rushing offense and baker still was one drive away from a nfc championship game! It's would be exciting to have a good qb like that on the browns with Amari, juedy, moore, and David. Did you know in 3 of his 4 playoff games baker has thrown 3 tds. He's a gamer.
@@anthonypa8045Dawg he would be 2 times as worse with that wr core. Bro literally had 2 1000 yard wrs who both can be a wr1.
As a ravens fan I actually rooted for y’all time to time when y’all had baker you guys should’ve of kept him I lost all respect for the Cleveland brown when they signed Watson
Watson has sadly always been a Lackluster QB he had a few flashes in Houston but his body of work is mixed results and he plays with ZERO passion 👍
Solid video man - fellow Browns youtuber here - I agree to the fact that consistency has been a serious problem, but it did in fact get consistently better throughout the season. A lot of these bad reads/throws came in week 1 in a downpour and week 2. Week 3 and on it was steady improvement, and even then the browns were second in the league in drops and Watson had a severely injured shoulder. Hitting the layups will be the biggest thing in ‘24
Watson's persona changed in 2021 when he sat out. In wrestling terms.... He was a baby face and he turned heal. His play ability was shattered. He can't play knowing he has haters and is not the man. He feels like he must perform to shut everyone up. Makes him play worse.
I don't think he was that guy in Houston either. 2020 was a fool's gold year. There's something very suspicious about a QB having 70% completion on a 4-12 team. Tom Brady is considered the "Checkdown King", but his career high is 68.9%...in the 18-1 season. Yes the defense was awful, but that utilization and efficiency should win 8 games by accident. I expect interceptions in a losing season because your taking risks to chase games. But those are game manager numbers.
Obrien offense racked up yards but it never surpassed top 10 in dvoa. It was like Blake Bortles mixed with Chip Kelly
Amen
I still have to believe he’ll start playing better I’ve already saw too much from him to underestimate him
Let’s see how this ages 😂😂😂
Right!!!! This is a terrible take....crazy to find out he's a browns fan, but not suprised he's a baker bro. He must not actually watch games.
@@cydneyrobb3554 Baker goes to the play-offs. What do the Browns do?
@@PatriotWatchUSA The same
Have you seen the schedule? It’s going to age like a fine wine 🤌
he's bottom 5 at best. he needs to be a game manager, but he doesn't have the skills. he might play, but he's done.
To me the biggest red flag for Watson is just how much better the offense got with Joe Flacco, who came out of retirement at damn near 40 years old lol. Flacco absolutely unlocked guys Njoku & Cooper and took them to levels we’ve never seen Watson even come close to achieving. Watson has made this offense very average, unlike Flacco who made the Browns look elite at times. Flacco imploded in the playoffs yeah but the Texans are just the better team right now and the Browns defense was putrid on the road all season.
Exactly, offense was humming like we’ve never seen. The defense gave up 31 points on the road and to the team they turned into a beast. This is all why this trade was horrible and yet watson d riders keep making excuses.
@@StayPuftMarshmellow back to back pick sixes by the interception king🤡🤡🤡
We shall see. Thank God Baker is gone
I'm glad he's gone too, because it disabused me of my 40+ year fan history with the Browns, it was the final straw. I'm now a Tampa Bay fan. I wish Chubb and Bitonio the best.
Yea baker has clearly played better than watson in every way since the trade. Stats, playoff wins, probowls. Baker looks great
Thank god he’s away from this horrible franchise and their idiot fans. Cleveland deserves watson, haslem and berry. Good luck with that trash. The factory of sadness never disappoints by the way.
So the Browns have to just hope he’s as good as Baker Mayfield was in 2023… right on, great job Browns 😂😂
Like the best quarterbacks don’t have bad games I saw Marino,Brady,Elway,Montana best of the best have terrible games Marino had numerous games where he threw five picks in one game to act like great quarterbacks always make the right decisions in the pocket is ridiculous I can make the same video about Joe Burrow missing open receivers Burrow always gets off to a slow start but he finishes strong Deshaun is the same player Deshaun gets better as the season goes on so to say he’s washed because of six games is ridiculous and Deshaun played great against the Titans ,Cardinals and the Ravens in the second half haters dismiss those games .
Deshaun Watson should run for president
@@runningbeard7380 loll since you’re boy baker is your God you should take a day from work to honor your lord and savior Faker Mayfield .
There's a few things nobody ever talks about when it comes to Watson. First, she's never played in cold weather in his life. I'm not saying he hasn't had a couple games here and there , but now he's playing outside in the cold for more than half the season. Second, nobody ever talks about how all the off the field stuff. Most likely messed him up mentally, psychologically, and emotionally. At this point I have little to no faith in him as our quarterback. People think I'm nuts but I'd rather have Winston starting over him
He’ll be better this year.
As a Texans fan, I really hope Watson turn it around this year! May not be the best QB out there but he does have the wins. He was like what 5-1 last season??
he got a "win" after completing 1 pass and the backup came in. He's not special, the backups all had wins too.
@@runningbeard7380 If he came in as a backup, then it doesn't go towards his win/loss record since he didn't start
Bro he just needs massages problem solved
Lol I’ll be back to this video in 8 months. Can’t wait to see you then
If only the Browns had a quarterback who wanted to play every Sunday, even if he was hurt and probably shouldn’t. I just don’t know where you would find one.
8-4 as a starter… Go Browns
Regular season winners, yay!
@@Meemeeseecoo And the Bengals daddy
Thanks to one of if not the best defense in the nfl
He was rusty coming off an 11 game suspension after not playing for 2 years and then he fractured his throwing shoulder in week 3 of last season, he doesn’t have it anymore🤡
Watson is done. Just taking the teams money.
I seem to remember a Browns fan requesting that members of Browns team serve as Paul bearers at his funeral...wanted to have the Browns let him down one more time 😂
What's crazy is Baker is a top 10-12 QB all day and he didn't have nearly the roster Watson has . That wasn't good enough and everyone wanted him gone . We could've built this same team around him for a lot less and without selling our future. 4 head coaches in 3 yrs and playing when he should've been benched when he was hurt. Now we're hoping to get a top 12 QB ranking out of watson lol
Dude was hurt. He was playing hurt. Not sure why everyone keeps ignoring the very important thing. Stop with the disingenuous stats that mean really nothing because he was hurt. You don’t play good when you’re hurt, you nerd
He's a baker bro XD
Dude has been a train wreck for years now
@PatriotWatchUSA with a name like PatriotWatchUSA, we already know why YOU don't like him 😂😂😂
@@draimonshepherd1791 Yeah he's a weirdo and should've never been aloud to play in the NFL again. Besides he's washed up.
@@draimonshepherd1791 another man using emojis to make a point. WEAK
11:15 first game of the season (It was also raining) vs 10:35 his last game. Werid how QBs get better as the season goes uh. Also in 12:20 the outside wr ran the wrong route
So, what you noticed in the film study about Watson holding on to the ball too long was a theme in Houston too. He has never taken the easy shot, and instead opted to play hero ball and wait for things to develop as far downfield as possible. He just doesn't care to hit the wide open guy if that guy isn't where he wants to throw it. Difference is, he was able to make it all happen in Houston often enough that he looked like a good QB. If he was able to take the easy 4-6 yard pickups on 1st and 2nd down then we'd have been a playoff threat even with BoB as HC.
Yeah, Watson was never that dude. He was a product of DHop.
In Watson's peak season (2020), Hopkins was no longer on the Texans.
... do you wanna look at the second half of the Ravens game, when he went 14-14 and led the Browns on a 14-point comeback to win in Baltimore?
Browns are so cursed
Guy that made the video it's gotta be your first year watching the NFL , that video was funny lol 🤣
Deshaun can’t even out-preform Joe Flacco. 230 million down the drain
So we are going to ignore that stefanski runs Westcoast and that the system he was in isn't fit to his strong suits?
I guess everybody forgot about that guaranteed money of 232 million.
As a lifelong Texans fan, I only hated Deshaun cause he quit on the team.
“You’re not that guy, pal. Trust me, you’re not that guy.”
People forget he was 5-1 last year 😂 and could have easily been 6-0
As a Ravens fan I was actually halfway impressed with Watson's game against us, I definitely didn't expect that kind of grit and he did enough to let their defense drag them over the finish line. That's pretty much how this year is going to have to go, they'll go as far as their defense can drag them, and with good injury luck that's a pretty long way.
The issue is that they're stuck in a division with two other elite teams with top-5 QBs and SB ceilings, and a wildcard team that constantly wins when they shouldn't (and vice versa), they can be very, very good and still lose the division handily.
Setting aside if Watson will ever be elite again, that ship has probable sailed, its enough to ask if he would be a significant upgrade to options like Mayfield, Brisette or even Cousins, plus millions in cap and 1st round picks. The answer is almost certainly no, not even close, their odds to win the SB would have been better without him, even if they somehow win it this year.
The real kicker is how long the rest of the locker room tolerates him, football players are probably better equipped to look past a national pariah and sexual predator then your average American, but it gets harder when that player is clearly holding your team back and materially damaging your career in the process.
It already says something that a HOF player like Garret can grind himself into dust for his team and get paid considerably less (guaranteed or otherwise) then Watson, if he decides to have a problem with that towards the back half of the year, this whole thing gets unworkable real quick.
Don’t worry dpj, you will have a qb that can put the ball on ya now
He has zero incentive to try or care. His compensation isn't tied to his performance at all.
Browns destroying themselves tbh if they just kept baker they wouldn’t be any worse than they are now. I don’t see Deshaun doing anything he’ll probably only play half the season.
Baker went 9-8 in the NFC south. Made the playoffs beacuse of the weak divison and did baker things. (4th qtr interception) WE DONT MISS THAT
@@cydneyrobb3554 You rather miss the play-offs and have a weirdo as the face of the franchise. lol This is why you suck
The Russell Wilson situation looks great compared to Watson. At least Denver didn't sell their soul along with the farm.
It would be crazy if yall could get something going again. I like the browns I liked desean as a Texan till all the lawsuits.. I’m not praying on his downfall, I just legitimately think the browns should have kept baker
The numbers agree with you in every way.
Houston moved on from him so fast and i’m glad. dude is a weirdo. should’ve known after the mia khalifa video
I remember when Watson told the Texans owner he’s not coming back because yall won’t hire good receivers. He had 24 sexual assault cases on his ass in no time
I think having all that time off from football hurts him. Then giving him a mega contract didn't help.
Deshaun gonna shine
Its not about Deshaun, its about the team, and thats what he doesn get
I still wonder why they did try to get Tim Kelly, he was his OC in 2020 for Houston, Watson knows the offense and liked it, don't get me wrong I'm very happy this is the turn Deshaun's career is going but for the Brown's sake it would have been worth exploring considering he is a Tight ends coach for the N.Y. Giants for 2024.
As a Steelers fan I was a fan until I learned you were a Browns fan....now Im a huge fan because of your great video and unbiased commentary