Why I'm No Longer A White Nationalist | Chapo Trap House
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CLIP from Episode 817 - Big Faust Conference feat. Mike Recine (3/21/24)
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Extremely Online Man realizes most of people aren’t extremely online.
Pretty much, yeah.
Yep.
His next substack is going to be "how i reached ultimate happiness in thailand"
Say less
Facts. I lived in Phuket and dudes like this are everywhere. Usually they are Brits though.
Entry 1: Phuket and Bangkok are significantly more interesting names for a city than Bland, Missouri.
@@dadnonlyd3 I think Tightwad, MO & Conception Junction, MO could give them a run for their money.
@@robertborland5083 wow, if I'll ever go to a place called Conception Junction i would be scared
I like how in his own metaphor he basically admits to being an orc who cannot appreciate the simple beauties of life and instead dreams only of empire and power.
That guy putting the orc in dork.
Meets the most white of white Americans, responds with "what are these, some kind of ASIANS??"
That part
What, the Finns?
@@HarryS77 [Hyperwar flashbacks]
This whole thing just reminds me of the episode of spongebob where squidward moves to a town full of people too much like him and it drives him insane
Now I want some canned bread
The montage of him getting progressively sadder doing the same tasks still hits
@@RancorousSea Different episode but "coming to bed honey? Yes dear"
What happens when you become a racist based entirely off of TV shows and movies
This guy looking at some Wisconsinite. "WHERE IS YOUR IMPERIAL DESTINY!?"
Me being from Wisconsin, there is some truth to his analysis but there are pockets of truth in these places that are unique to it’s geography. Just like there are in Oakland (where I live now) for different reasons.
@@plankro8yea his analysis is spot on tbh, except for the immediate area around the isthmus in Madison, Wisconsin is an oppressively dull cultureless place
To all the bookish late bloomers nursing a psychic wound amidst their marble statue pfps, their Ayn Rand, and their Nietzsche, take solace that you, the nubile Dratini will turn into the dashing young lad Dragonair at 30, and the daddy dom Dragonite at 55. That's how the real world works.
This reminds me of the Red Scare fans who converted to Catholicism and got mad that the people they met at their local mass didn't read Christopher Lasch and shit.
Yeah it's always funny to see converts like this encounter people who came by the religion honestly and actually live the lifestyle they romanticize, you can pretty clearly tell the difference between the two for the most part. Although I have a friend whose sister still lives in the Philippines and seemingly was raised in the Church but still posts this redscare esque tradcath stuff online and it's jarring (tbf she's in her early 20s and lives in a large urban metropolis so the same demographic for it, and she doesn't do any of the "post left" shit)
Yeah its hilarious to hear my older friends complain about the new guys at church for being too annoying about degeneracy.
They converted poorly because if God was real all those people would
have a good time at Church amen
I can translate this guy’s entire “article” in one sentence:
“I couldn’t get laid, so I moved to the Midwest but still couldn’t get laid.”
Needs to go to the Grim and Frostbitten gothic wilderness of Alaska for some of the cold heroic cooch.
@@pllpsy665
He's definitely gonna marry a Filipino woman like any good white supremacist
Best comment
It truly is a tragedy Matt couldn't be here to discuss this article. I hope he's doing well with his family
He’s in hell for rejecting Jesus
Jews did that to him
the most honest part is referring to himself as a "contrarian novelty seeker" like thousands of internet nazis were made by the fact that it was so stupid they couldn't say no to the irony, wtf is this shit doing to us
It's genuinely an indictment on our entire species that so many people think being right wing is "counter culture" because their mom and TV told them to stop hitting and sexually assaulting people.
As a southerner, I relate to being described as a "gothic tragedy".
you might like the guy @lilbubbychild
You seem to have a Faustian spirit!
[wearing the crow makeup] i do declayuh
I love how he gets mad that they don’t want to change their lives, which is very conservative of them
So he moved somewhere, discovered he hated his 'chosen people' and realized he just hates everyone? Hell, i didnt have to move anywhere to figure that one out.
That part
He didn't even thought of the possibility of being a nosy bigot is why people don't like him being around. This guy is going to be Unabomber II
The guy has the same issue as Rod Dreher, wherever he goes, he is.
@@MJH-kr4zg😂
Right?
"I'm no longer a fascist, I'm a neoliberal"
It's funny, but I really hate that they've got an option to get like 80% of their desired public policies, and even mild social democrats can't get anywhere near that (a socialists even less so).
MFs on their first day at NASA
this guy talks about people from different localities in the US the same way that 19th century race scientists talked about all the new tribes they were discovering on their voyages (i typed this out near the start of the video and now near the end he's actually saying midwesterners are the descendants of conflict-averse german catholics LMAO i was right on the mark)
Yeah the most dehumanizing language is usually reserved for racial minorities but they just conceive of all humanity this way. Perhaps it's not surprising that they adopted blackpill vernacular since both view human relations in this way
"See, the problem is that Nazis have become too woke."
"...faustian individualism..." lmao
"...faustian spirit..." there he goes again XD
He heard Jordan Peterson use that word and thought it sounded smart so decided to use it way too much, probably not even understanding what it means.
Greetings, fellow Aryan men of valor! Check out this huge Faustian dump I just took.
how to be stupid and learn nothing from life experiences 101
Someone like this can only exist because of the internet
Mfr acting like he survived the plot of Deliverance.
squeeeeeeel
Southern Comfort but with Hoosiers instead of Cajuns.
I love how these young white nationalists don't seem to get that they already won a very long time ago and that we live in their world.
But they can't say the n word anymore ya don't understand to horror in that;)
This is just Americans in general, they all think they’re the Heroic Underdog, regardless of how much institutional purchase and power they have. You see this w/ libs a lot as well, the sore-winner syndrome where they can’t just have won, they need everyone to worship the ground they walk on and love the shitty world they have created.
Fact of the matter is, the two factions who have won in yank life (and thus have access to the levers of state power) are the libs and white supremacists. And each side fucking loves bitching about how actually they’re the little smol bean uwu being oppressed, because that’s what the American psyche does.
Tampa, the new Macedonia had me fucking dying.
After having lived in Tampa for a decade, even during COVID, this man would be apoplectic the second he drove down Kennedy or Dale Mabry and realize it's the same strip mall bullshit that he saw in the Sun Belt and as well as the Corn Belt.
It's amazing how much this essay writer went on and on about "the traveling pioneer spirit" and yet his concept of this "Faustian Florida" literally came from memes and having never been there.
Btw, Nick's Gas station in Dunedin has the best Cuban sandwiches in the entire region. It's like the Philly cheesesteak. You can skip the tourist traps and just go into any local corner spot and get quality.
Born n raised in Tampa. Gios in Tampa is my go to for Cubans
@@Freiheit1232 Hell yeah Gio's is solid. Only got there once or twice cause of my work schedule during that time and I was living in unincorporated "Tampa" just along the Hillsborough/Pinellas border off 580.
As someone who was born in florida and moved to the midwestfor work and cheap housing, it really is just the same shit. Slightly less driving next to the worst drivers in america though since they are in florida 6 months of the year.
Imagine being a Minnesotan hockey fan and this freak from down south comes up to u and starts talking to u about hyperborea
"this is just a guy who is entering his thirtyes" ahahahah
thirties*
@@Opheliakami his incel thirsties*
@@Opheliakami 😅sry, english is my third laguage, and it's a strange language to write
Nietzsche would have hated the people who worship him today
To be fair to them, he was also a mousy little incel prick. A brilliant one, but still.
A Faustian spirit embiggens the smallest man
I never heard the word cromulent until I got to Byzantium.
"I dont get it, I moved to this place that I immediately hated for whatever reason then spent the rest of my time here staring at the locals with my mouth agape and remarking how different they are from me without showing any interest in their interests and for whatever reason NONE of them want to be my friend! What's wrong with them?"
A perennial rhetorical question that pops to my mind each time I hear a Chapo reading series is "wait, this guy gets paid to write?"
Gerard de Nerval writing to Theophile Gautier, August 1843:
"I have already lost, Kingdom after Kingdom, province after province, the more beautiful half of the universe, and soon I will know of no place in which I can find a refuge for my dreams; but it is Egypt that I most regret having driven out of my imagination, now that I have sadly placed it in my memory."
Orientalism pg.100, Edward Said
At some point they started actually believing the mythos of white, rural America that they themselves made up.
Beautiful quote.
I'm from small town midwest. There is a sort of horrible "Pleasantville" vibe to a lot of places
When I watched "Pleasantville", I had one thought on my mind the whole time: not enough Faust.
I can relate since the Ohio small town my mom grew up in was very Mayberry coded, down to the fact that the first black family didn’t move into the outskirts of town until the late 1970’s and before that, my mom never saw a black person before lol
@@bighomiegayass1917 sounds about right. Every town is trying so hard to be whatever they think the 1950s were.
It's just that post about how people have a "Noble Savage" view of "Normies"
He's trapped in a plot of a Tim Burton movie about the most racist poster alive.
Contrasting this loser’s political outlook to Thiel’s makes you realize why Thiel does what he does: he sees everyone in their “in-group” as Hobbits too, but wants to be the one to protect them by being a megalomaniac because he thinks they’re too inept to protect themselves
peter thiel wants to be the dunedain rangers, this guy wants to be an orc
this guy was def a groyped-up shawtie
I'm 38! As opposed to "moderating,", as I've gotten older, I find myself getting more communist. So there's that.
Same!
Are you communist enough to reflect, introspectively, and ask yourself what it means for one to become “more communist?” Unless you ARE not, aren’t you NOT not? 🤔
@@PunkiBrooster what are you talking about!? Can one not be more or less in line with certain knowledge or values related to communism? 👀👀👀
Seeing this brings me relief and soothes my fear
Dude, understanding the laws of dialectical and historical materialism is like understanding conservation of mass and the pythagorean theorem.
You are bragging about seeing the world for what it actually is. Your beliefs haven’t become more radical, you just see the truth
"the bohemian arthoe daughters of the bicoastal elite"
"the midwest met my expectations of being safer, more affordable and less degenerate than the coastal sunbelt but it turns out that was a bad thing for my temperament."
It's almost like your "temperament" is your actual problem and you need to work on it rather than continue valuing this f scism crap...
“Faustian individualism of Floridians” is an insane combination of words
Im kind of digging it...but I am a floridian to be fair
Fascist no true scotsman speedrun
"Wherever you go, there you are"
"some occasional off label pesticide use makes the grass greener"
Let's be honest: this guy would thow in with Saruman a thousand times faster than he would with Gandalf
Found what he wanted and hated it 😂😂
I am born in Cleveland. I'm from 5 generations of Cleveland. It is definitely not racially homogeneous. It's strongly black, the white people have a gigantic representation of Jewish people, and there's a smattering of various middle easterners and Indians. Even more than that though, it's incredibly liberal and tons of money comes to this city via international students. There's racists in any place, but any racists here knows that they have to use dog whistles and then still hope not to catch a beating. However, people that move around are definitely untrusted. I did move away and can confirm, street cred rapidly is spent from every year a person is gone.
Imagine moving to the Midwest, an area that’s broadly often content with being content, and thinking you’ll get an adequate fill of novelty (without putting in any effort especially).
"I enjoy novelty, I'm moving to Ohio."
Imagine moving to a cornfield at least 10 miles from anywhere and complaining that there is not enough to do.
This is so fucking funny. As a Midwesterner, I’m appalled at the mispronunciation of Mackinac (say it like “Mackinaw”)
Hey, give Chris a break. He’s from Ohio
@@5508Vanderdekkenthen he should know better!
@@5508Vanderdekken I should just be happy at Michigan being talked about lol
Top tier content and prof that Nazi’s are just middle earth LARPing
13:30
I grew up conservative, and yeah, a lot of these online guys who view themselves as really conservative, have clearly never like. spent much time around the conservatives they idealize. Church girls tend to not want a guy who has slept around, for example... (not that these guys have that issue)
I am glad that Adam SSomething finally told us his real story.
I don't know enough about Adam Something to get what this means. I just know he does transit videos. Is he supposed to be secretly Far Right.
@@dirrdevilhe's a smarmy guy who pretends to know everything about the left because he "escaped the alt right" but in all honesty all his foreign policy takes are still alt right
@@HakimButSouthAfricanhe’s Hungarian. That should tell you something
@@dirrdevilevery liberal is a fascist yeah
@@dirrdevil as is kind of the embodiment of the phrase "social fascist", i'm convinced his account is a twitter maoist's alterego
As a professional cultural anthropologist, outside of conferences, even cultural anthropologists don’t want to talk about cultural anthropology.
Meh. I studied anthro in college and its an interest of mine still
what living on 4chan and never interacting with real people does to a mfer
Fukkin sad people my god
The thumbnail with the title couldn’t be any more perfect
this isint white nationalism. this is ASD
He sounds like he moved to Iowa. Unless you’ve experienced, you don’t know how depressing it is
That’s what I was thinking too lol but that’s cause I went to MUM when. I was 18 like a dumb ass
I thought Iowa was just the west? Idk because I live in a town that's technically not Midwest or Kentucky but is culturally both
@@tonywords6713have you never seen a map of America..?
Iowa, South Dakota (where I am) North Dakota, Nebraska…it’s all the same flat nothingness.
Indiana fits.
The wild thing to me is how many of the critiques of why the kinds of white people that author saw in the Midwest are primarily rural/urban divides. Most people living in the rural areas want to be by themselves, want cheap land, or have inherited the farm -- many of the ambitious, non-conformist people who may have lived in these rural areas typically leave small-town life as soon as they can for work and education. Imagine moving out to a cornfield of your own free will and complaining that there is nothing to do in a ten-mile radius: as a wise man once said, "This is a cow farm; you're gonna have cows outside." In a small town like that, gossip is the primary source of local news & the local church is the primary center for social life, particularly for younger people like the author to find potential partners. With an environment where gossip travels quickly, conformity is valued in such a setting & outsiders without those social connections are viewed as suspicious. (It is interesting to see how the white nationalist author only has an issue with a conformist society that is suspicious of foreigners when it is applied to him.) While he sees openness as stereotypical niceness, he seems unable to detect the passive-aggression that is often on the flip-side of the coin. Additionally, there is not as much investment in rural areas, so many of the "big wheels" in town are near-literal big fish in small ponds. (Indeed, many of the people who have money are those who have inherited large swaths of farmland from previous generations -- especially after the farm crisis of the '80s -- so many have been coasting off work done generations ago.) Of course he -- as a yuppie city-slicker moving into town, not going to church, and being an off-putting, irritable mental jester -- had a difficult time being accepted in the community; but instead of reflecting on himself, he decides it is the people whose community he moved into -- completely voluntarily -- who are wrong. Ironically, he seems to have a lack of introspection and reflection; something of an instinctive distain to examining himself through the perspective of history & cultural anthropology. He is no longer a white supremacist because he now considers his own white neighbors to be inferior beings to himself.
The odd part of comparing rural Midwesterners to Hobbits is not only fact Tolkien based the fantasy creatures on a romanticized, rural areas of the West Midlands in the author's youth, but the novels' descriptions of the Hobbits' bucolic lifestyle are quite positive.
Not reading all that
@@isaiahd2123 I respect that.
Brian Quimby talking to the army of the dead sent me overboard 🤣🤣
Fascism = Main Character Syndrome
So Will is a fascist then?
The philosophy behind fascism is collectivist. Regardless, every person should be the main character of their life.
@@Weirdomanification If you think the primary and/or most egregious aspect of fascism is that it's "collectivist", it's because you're some Libertarian weirdo who shares the fascist's belief that you being asked to care about everyone else in society when you don't personally want to is "tyrannical."
@@Weirdomanification Every person *is* the main character of their life. Duh. Main Character Syndrome is a guy moving to the Midwest to be with his "volk" because he thinks they're special, and then resenting them because he thinks he's an ambitious, contrarian genius. Main Character Syndrome is some guy who just reduces fascism down to "collectivism" because he can't think of anything more horrific than being told what to do, or expected to be considerate of other people.
@@Weirdomanification Everybody can see you subscribe to Libertarian and bitcoiner channels, aka another ideology of Main Character Syndrome. "I have no social responsibility to the world or anyone in it because I don't want to."
Mike Recine softly chuckling for fourth mic
never thought a person could genuinely be racist against white americans, but this writing comes close
I’m mildly racist against northeastern wasps, but southern Scots, Louisiana Frogs, Great Lakes Germanic Catholics, did I mention the continentals in all the cities, are fun
@@ofmonadsandnomads9500 how can you tell when a person is a southern scot? Or a German catholic? Most white americans are probably a mix of a bunch of things.
@@NosyFella I think you underestimate how loud such people are about their heritage
@@ofmonadsandnomads9500 for people whose families have been in America for hundreds of years how can they even know what their heritage really is.
You might have a few surnames to work with but beyond that it is a mystery for most people I think
@@NosyFella German Catholics are a fairly recent wave of migration in the scheme of things, and the south is a bit obsessed with heritage and family.
this guy is trying to convince himself that the reason no one likes him is he moved to the wrong place
The White Nationalist Rod Dreher
“White people are too normal and nobody wants to talk about HBD or read Guillame Faye”
I have become liberal, covert fascist of the world
Funny seeing you here🤘
@@discowolf25 right on, brother! 🤘 we are all over the place lol
Just realized this reading series is basically “What if China Girl by David Bowie, but it took place in Wisconsin?”
I miss Matt so damn much
I didn't even know he was sick
I thought he was back
My guy went to the Midwest and got MAD that we are chill and enjoy slow work days or Friday beers & football. I'm glad this jagoff hates it here.
Every word of this article/post/whatever screams gross Reddit nerd to me. This guy seriously needs to touch grass.
My god, I’m from Cincinnati and this guy seems to have insane ideas about Midwesterners
Find feisty Faustian Floridians near you!
Hey Brock and Team, sorry to interrupt your keg party. I'm here to save you from The White Genocide.
7:34 Southerner here. Most southerners don't know what any of that means.
These cities he says have 'Faustian spirit' are just where he had a moderately ok time so added their genotype to his master race list. "Oh you laughed at my joke, tampans now have the best dna"
Lol i live in st pete and Im dying
Is this man's "contrarian novelty seeking" a genuine threat to the local social order? Or is it more the contents of his hard drive 👀👀👀
UK Listener here, no idea who you're talking about. From what he writes... it's someone who has not interacted with human beings before, yes?
Imagine a racist white Londoner moving to rural Yorkshire because he's upset about the number of brown people he sees, only for the fact that he *is* a Londoner to foster a sense of mutual animosity.
He resents them both because he's already an unpleasant guy, but also for them not living up to the modern urban values he still unconsciously expects of a certain social order, especially a guy who sounds as terminally online as this listener. They resent him because he's some unpleasant, condescending stranger coming in and asking about weird stuff like "the volk" when all they want to do is talk food, farming, religion, or local gossip.
Then imagine that guy writes a Substack article about how "I'm still racist, but now I also hate vast swathes of my own race for not having enough neuroses, knowledge of esoteric online discourse, or Main Character Syndrome."
Most Americans don't have passports, so it's safe to assume he's never interacted with humanity before.
@Tom-gl6ry you wrote the article didn't you?
This is what happens when you care about philosophy and nationalism at the same time
It's weird to care about your arbitrarily drawn broders to begin with, it's just cope by dullards
@@berdyderg900 The funny part is that the regionalizations do not match borders; for example, try asking people what states they consider to be in the Midwest.
One of my favorite things nationalists do is move and become nationalists for their old country and the new country they came to bother.
But I wonder if there has ever been a supremacist who realizes they're actually a different race but continues being an equally committed supremacist for their newly discovered race. Like "I'll tilt my entire belief system on its head as long as I'm still the gigachad and everyone else is the soyjack".
When 23andme and such first came out there were a ton of white supremacists bitching about a conspiracy against them because they kept getting 3% African results so maybe kind of
There is. His name is Clayton Bigsby
Did Steven Miller write this article under a pseudonym?
my favorite part of this is that he was, as he put it, "active in the movement" for like three years? so who even cares? this isn't even a large part of his identity tbh, it was a phase, a special interest. just long enough to push away any normal people who could've brought him back to earth.
Where is our big beautiful boy Matt
Seriously.
They’re making him into the 6,000 dollar man. They can do it, they have the technology
Still recovering from the stroke, also has an infant daughter. He still occasionally drops semi-coherent posts on Twitter.
He had a brain fart. I hear he's doing better now.
Not receiving quality medical care 😢seen pictures of him and they are putting his skull put back together cheap plastic. Not good
Innate Saxon Wrath 😂😂😂
the effects of not going outside and touching grass.
as opposed to hard r white nationalism
Hell yes brother
22:52 *_My road to Cumtown: A Conservative's Journey_*
I'm a former white nationalist, and I'm gay.
Cumtown made me gay and more racist
@@GigachudBDEMullen is millenial cringe
Looking forward to this dude reading the books and doing a series of pro-Sauron op-eds.
Also, fascists becoming centrists to be creepier and worse is just chefskiss.
"'I'm so over being a fascist,' says man who becomes worse"
He sounds like ignatius j Reilly
Ignatius was far more grounded, and got pussy
Brave of the NYT to publish this
Nah, they were cracking up when the published this
I can’t believe you talked about the Midwest this whole damn video and there was only ONE (1) mention of Chicago. Wow.
no wait, he thinks floridians came from Romans!? ahahahahhahahahahahah
My people are always the real romans
Floroma
Credimus in Mus.
You're telling me this PhD in History from Donda Academy is worthless?
@@RancorousSea Not entirely worthless. It came with a voucher for Chick-fil-A.
You want to see the pride of my people? You come to st Louis and you tell us your state has better barbeque. Then you'll see some fighting spirit and imperial glory.
The leap from white nationalist to just another Lord of the Rings nerd is more of a bunny hop.
maybe education isn't the answer to combatting racism
Or -- and hear me out -- maybe it is, but just not whatever the fuck this guy got in lieu of one.
Neither is lowering the age of consent, but it would be an effective anti-racist measure.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime." - Twain
"Seriously though, I swear to God I'm really uncomfortable. Now it's time you should go." - Van Wilder
This was great
We love our Matty folks!
I guess if you have an 'identity' you dont need a personality, lol
He makes US midwesterners sound pretty cool (I am europea know nothing about the midwest).
Let me demystify it for you: our culture revolves mostly around sweet corn, casseroles and going "up North"/"to the lake" on weekends.
It's pretty cool, not gonna lie.
@@ballz4kidzdamn, right on the nose. that's ohio, at least.
@@ballz4kidzDon’t forget alcohol
Mike Recine's Special is very Funny
He did a skit with Amber back in 2020
Hello from Minnesota!
The Brirish built two floating docks for D-day. One went to the Americans with a very detailed book of instructions. I'm sure our British friends did the whole thing proper and made a very nice book. Well long story short the US dock didn't last the first Storm but it lasted long enough. Merica!
What are you talking about
Mexican uncles are pretty awesome.
So many people who identify as White Nationalist or Alt-Right or Trad Catholic or whatever, they all want to live in the Middle Ages. They have this imagined history of non-stop adventure that they think will come back someday. The truth is that life was pretty boring for the average person during the Middle Ages. And yes, there was lots of war and imperialism, but only the kings benefitted from that. Most white people don't want to be soldiers who die stealing land from other countries for the king. We just want to work well-paying jobs, play with our kids, and watch superhero movies.
They specifically want to be knights in the middle ages.
They don't need an ethnostate, they need some friends they can play D&D with
Lololol @@KickinRadTopHat
I read this to my middle aged boyfriend who Ioves marvel and is sitting in front of his $100,000 comic book collection. He said, "this is true".