How Have Modern Downhill Bikes Changed? Ft. Rachel Atherton | Retro Vs Modern DH Bikes
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- čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
- Downhill bikes are the cutting edge of speed, strength and development in mountain biking, each year seeing leaps in performance to assist brave riders in going inconceivably fast on some of the gnarliest tracks in the world. With development, times that riders can achieve have tumbled due to increased speed, better traction, more advanced suspension and more manageable geometry. There is one thing that has stayed constant though, the mantra, 'it's the rider, not the bike' and Rachel Atherton's ability to stand on the top step over the years, regardless of the bike, is a testament to that!
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00:00 - Rachel Atherton's Junior World Champs 2005 Giant DH Team
02:03 - Charlie Hatton's World Champs 2023 Atherton AM200
05:05 - How Downhill Bikes Have Changed With Rachel Atherton
14:07 - Where Will Bike Design Go In The Future?
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Would you prefer a downhill bike of the past, present or future?
I still use my orange downhill bike on 26” i love it wouldnt change it until its broke 😂😂😂
Such a modest and accomplished person.
still riding a banshee josh bender scream 👍
Im the Little Slope sister
I still ride a 2006 dh comp. 😮
2006 Kona stab supreme is what got me hooked mtbing
Still ride and love my 2014 scott voltage fr10. I guess its got a little better geo and parts then the early 00's but its still 26" and probably the last of those style of bikes similar to oldschool downhill and free ride.
Im still riding with the 200mm rockshox domain and a fox van r coil in the rear.
I think its crazy he said 2.35 tires are small and a 65 degree head angle is steap😅
2.35 and 2.5 are very close in size especially in maxxis and schwalbe.. and 65-66 degrees is pretty slack to me😄
I still have my Blue and green Giant ATX TWO! I have just bought a new emtb not had it out yet but man it's gonna be interesting 😂 I still have the old 2.25 Tiogas on the atx but that was the thing in 2002
Was just looking at my ATX 2 sitting on the back porch earlier, fun times.
Interesting video, love the evolution of the bikes, very similar to the difference to my owned from new 1998 Kona xc machine and my 2023 Atherton AM.130 trail bike.
Still love riding the Kona but the difference between the two feels light years away, on the Kona you feel every bump the trail has to offer, steep downhill encourages your weight to move forward….
the AM130 gives great trail feedback is very smooth over the bumps and downhills are fast, controlled and very balanced….viva la difference, love riding them both.
I had a giant dh team back in the day, mind you I was in my mid 20's now 43, but I rarely hit the drops or steeps now on my tricked out modern enduro bike that I was riding on that old bike
My 2012 Specialized Demo 8 still gets compliments at the bike park. I love it the way it rides.
The price has definitely changed! 😅
Foes had an Air/coil fork in 2000. The F1, I had one on my Foes DHS. It was butter. Only about 6.5 inches of travel but it was inverted and had a 30 mm hub. It was an amazing fork. I still have that bike on my wall! I have to admit my YT Tues with a Marzocchi C2R2 fork is much more capable but nothing turned heads like that red Foes!
Thing is, that Giant frame was an off the shelf "affordable" bike back in the day and very capable as she proved. The Atherton bike today is more at boutique end of the spectrum. The main advantage of them is being able to tailor them exactly to your fit were as the competition just usually provides S/M/L and XL if you are lucky, which in most cases in fine for most people.
I really like my Supreme V4 but I miss riding my old Specialized Big Hit. I still have the frame and I'm pretry sure sooner or later I'm gonna build It again 🤣
I currently ride a 2004 Santa Cruz VP free
Everytime the number of brake pistons is mentioned: we had 6 pots in those days!
Rache had 10 speed in 2005?!?!? Damn gurl!!!
I honestly always hated those old boxxers though. I had the next boxxer after that too, top spec one, I honestly never fell in love with it
Excellent video. Easy conversation led to great content
Much appreciated!
Remember when Rachel was so adverse to riding 29"? "I like it rough" she used to say 😂 that came a long way too
Still ride every week my orange patriot 2004 . It's had lots of new parts I suppose it's a resto mod the best of both worlds
Nice Giant bikes, oh I was confused by the -maestro- dw link 😂
The Giant downhill team 2005 looks so much nicer than modern downhill bikes...
those boxxers actulually hold up well. sad i couldnt get a damper rebuild kit. rip my 05 world cups
Sure, Foes F1 fork was air or partly at least 5 years before the Boxxer was, and 4 pot brakes were about similar time (hope c4)
I'll never get rid of my lawwill 9. Last time i raced/rode, we easily kept up with more than the average person on 29 🤪 and that was a spare of the moment last minute decision 🤘
I just wrote a comment about that fork! I had/have one!
It would be great to try a new one to see what the differences are. Prices are still very high though and the ‘06 Sinister R9 still works
"I couldn't ride something this small"- literally to be able to get my hands on an old Enduro bike would be an experience in its own, rn i'm quite literally department store biking it so I guess I'm more ballsy than a world champ
Like that way Owen corrected Rach about being the GOAT😂🐐
What travel was the Giant?
Does Rachel have a fan club ? I first met her at fortwilliam 10 years ago and have been a fan ever since .
2.5 continentals? 🤔
They only do the DH tyres in 2.4 unless these are proto tyres.
Atherton full power long travel E bike pls.
So what's the point of having 9 sprockets on the cassette? Why not remove the 2 unused sprockets & replace them with spacers?
For anyone who has used both SRAM Nx and Gx drive chains, is Gx truly better than Nx?
I’ve used both, my NX had issues right out of the box with the clutch so it was never really solid. The GX is fantastic. That being said I’m still running the NX cassette since it’s so cheap to replace and it wears slower than the GX cassette. I would recommend running an NX cassette if you already have an HG driver body, and running a GX shifter and derailleur.
@@RedRidesMTB 👍 Thanks for the help.
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the embargo won then eh?
U can upgrade for less then 50 bucks for the stem and handlebars and giants are 20 dollar bikes I mean
And ur complaining a cheap bike to a really expensive bike not fair man
His math isn't great, only 8mm dia difference from 40s and 32 boxxer. Didn't know we were using 10 speed in dh in 05, and comparing a young Rachel sized bike to a current charlie size bike exaggerates the size difference. Cool expose though
Proof that all this new tech isn't needed if your good enough anyway. People these days upgrade there bikes before there own skills
First 🥳 keep up the informative work 🤙🏽
Thanks!🥇
there are no 2.5 continentals, 2.4 or 2.6
Bernard kerr Did he not snap the frame on that Athrton and have to use his last prototype frame to finish though?
he snapped because he hit a tree earlier on the run day before i believe...so my thought is that the damage was done and when he hit the run the day after it snapped
Bernard Kerr rides for Pivot, not Atherton.
Also aside from not riding for atherton, he didn't snap it. The aluminium lug de-bonded from the carbon tube and adhesive. There's no galvanic corrosion between titanium and carbon, so the atherton frames likely don't de-bond.
Robot bike co?
I would prefer a trail bike or maybe Enduro. I would bet 90% of riders are not doing downhill everyday. Most this tech from downhill doesn't make sense for most riders.
Downhill tech does get passed down to the other disciplines of riding, especially in Enduro 🤘Atherton Bikes do a 170mm travel bike as well called A.170!
@gmbntech yes it does and it's usually useless for the average rider.
Interesting thought, but would an average rider feel more confident on a trail bike of today or a trail bike from 10/20 years ago?
That’s why I have 6 bikes!!! When you’re taking a chairlift up the hill a full DH bike is the only way to go down!
@@joeallard205 I get that. That makes sense. But most people can't afford that. He'll most can barely afford a hardtail. Prices are ridiculous. The majority of people going somewhere with a lift are renting bikes around me.
Wow. You're telling me that bikes, have changed in the last 2 decades, consider my mind blown🙄
Boxxer WC was worse fork what i ever had.
Many problems with air system and poor quality.
Fox 40 was better and also 888
Thumbs down for the annoying adverts.
with respect to Rachel...not a fan of the design of the Atherton with their round tubes and connection points it looks like a plumber pipe
They're tubes like they use for sailing masts, if they weren't round, the stresses would be unevenly distributed and it would fatigue
Bikes have had round tubes forever what you on about lol