Kobe was more skilled than Jordan. Tracy McGrady explains | Ep. 49 | CLUB SHAY SHAY
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- Tracy McGrady sits down with Shannon Sharpe on the CLUB SHAY SHAY podcast to discuss his dream 1 on 1 matchup. “He was the ceiling as far as 1-on-1 basketball. I knew I had to sharpen my skills if I wanted to compete against him…Kobe took who MJ was but enhanced the skill set.”
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Kobe was more skilled than Jordan. Tracy McGrady explains | Ep. 49 | CLUB SHAY SHAY
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What dream 1 on 1 matchup would you love to see?
LeBron vs. Jordan
Kobe V. Kawhi or Kyrie V. A.I.
Wilt vs Shaq
T-Mac vs. KD
Prime Jordan prime bird
The MEDIA has tried to tarnish Kobe’s legacy over and over and over again… BUT the players (who actually PLAYED the game) know who was the 🐐 or at least closest to being the best. I don’t understand why the media hates him so much 🤷🏽♂️
Its actually the opposite. The mainstream media have always polish Kobe career. Evwn when he loss. I noticed Tracy McGrady been trying to brainwash people into thinking that Kobe was better than what he really was.
It all started Kobe rookie year the media tried to make him act proper and was upset he was a highschool kid walking around with his shoe untied. Kobe also did not praise Jordan in a godly way and the NBA was upset every since because being that Kobe was on the Lakers they could not bully him because Lakers is a brand within our own. LA baby even tho I’m from the East Coast I’m a Lakers fan since 19997 and that’s my theory
@@JamesHardenoverKobe13 😂 you must be young! After Colorado they threw him aside! Only when they had no choice because he was frying people he got that one mvp! But the media def didn’t like him until they had no choice
@@27Gunna yup, this is it right here. I think if it wasn’t for the case and the fued with Shaq(most people at the time sided with Shaq) we would of seen Kobe get more help before the pay trade and more accolades such as the MVP award which is a popularity contest award.
Pau*
How many times Shannon been told by nba players that Kobe is better then Bron
He didn't say better overall player
@@douglasmccurtis4249 your slow asf he said he the best player he ever seen you can look it up in other interview too he said Kobe is the best
@Mel sims Blacks so are all the bronsexuals they got that in common
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I feel like certain players pick Kobe because of his iso and 1v1 bag. Kobe would expose your defense primary whereas LeBron would expose your team’s defense. Which would make sense on why players would fear Kobe more, and in turn think he’s better
Shannon stop hating on Kobe 🤣
Bro yes dog, he hates people speaking on how good Kobe was. It’s ridiculous
Shannon gotta be CANCEL
He prefers big athletic guys with little- to -no footwork over guys with impeccable footwork.
Jesus is the true greatest 😊
@@SlimShadly Jesus is the true greatest 😊
Give me 2006 Kobe over ANY player in ANY era!!!!
as good as that 2006 Kobe was...88 Jordan was a terror on the defensive end and a much better off-the-ball player.
@@therealdonaldtrump1646 Michael Jordan didn't play off ball in the 80s because he had the ball so much
No era Kobe over Jordan fam…
93 jordan > Jesus
Wasnt even the best player in 2006. Or even the second best player. Nash and Dirk >>
I’ve watched many TMac & Kobe games growing up…and I’ve always thought TMac was on the same level as Kobe offensively. They literally played identical especially in that Allstar game together. The only difference to me, Kobe was a Tier 1 serial killer. Not too many players on that tier
Agreed TMac at his best was just as good as Kobe imo.
The thing is Kobe was still ascending when TMac peaked before the injuries weighed in. But offensively when Mac was prime it was debatable. 2 sides to the ball though and Mac admittedly was not always committed on D.
Factz tmac was on the same level offensively but not defensively but wen kobe went mamba he went super sayian 😂😂
@@Gemini050788 Mac's best was in Orlando, but i wouldn't say that was his peak. Because he was still young, and had more room to get better. If not for him getting hurt. Kobe was faster, but other than that Mcgrady had the advantage. Height, Jumping ability, Wing span, and athleticism. Kobe played ball his entire childhood! To Mcgrady just starting to play in high school. He had already dwarfed Kobe after just a few years in the nba. Mac, and Kobe were close, but offensively i think mac was better.
@@javiersanchez1661 I don’t knock that. I think had we seen Kobe without shaq we would have seen how good he really was then. But mcgrady is as deadly as any scorer ever in a given night. He’s the blueprint for KD to me.
He said what he said Shannon!
They have NO idea how skilled prime TMac was 1v1 … Unstoppable
There's a reason why kobe had a loyal fan base. The man was special.
I like how T Mac didn’t sleep on himself as well lol “I’d put myself in there” 💯 he definitely a goat in my book.
Prime T-mac can compete with ANYONE in history. Not that he'd for sure win but T-mac at his best would give pretty much any guard/forward in history a run for their money (Kobe, LeBron, Jordan, Bird, KD, etc)
T mac was the most talented player i ever seen. Deep, mid range, or inside he could hurt you from anywhere. For his size his ball skills was off the charts. He had no problems dribbling through multiple defenders attacking the rim.
💯💯
Emphasis on ATTACKING
KD before KD
@@SA-cp4tw I think t mac was more explosive than Durant. Mcgrady could dunk over 2, or 3 defenders at the rim on a regular basis. Where you see KD getting his dunk blocked by 1 guy in the Olympics. T mac, or Vince Carter would of abused that dude that blocked Durant's dunk. I use to see t mac get a pass right up under the rim. Then turn around and dunk on the defender. That's some serious hops t mac had.
@@javiersanchez1661 true. I think I’m more talking abt being taller than most guards and having the ability rise up and shoot over them. Kobe said that tmac was the hardest to guard since he could rise up and shoot like he could but he was taller. Imagine if he met KD in his prime. Yet there’s defo some disparity in terms of athleticism.
Media needa respect MY GOAT.. most skilled player ever, best 2 way player ever…Kobe Bean Bryant
I agree Kobe was good ofvasley and defensively not too much NBA players can say that
love kobe. but best two way player ever is jordan and it's not even close. dude has 10 scoring titles and DPOY that's the definition of a two way player.
Definitely a great. My personal Goat is Dream. I'm in the same age group as Tmac and Kobe so I bore witness to the greatness of both of them.
I hate to say it my guy the media has tarnished kobe bryant legacy
@@MentalStillness you could also argue The Dream is the best 2 way player ever
Shnonon Just can’t take it every time a NBA legend goes on his show and says Kobe is the best player they have ever seen play he just can’t take it
Every single time 🤣
Because it throws his whole lebron hss been the best player in the league since his rookie season, in reality lebron wasn't the best player in the league until he went to Miami kobe was the best player for 2000s decade its why nba media discredits him or anybody who says kobe was the better player they've seen and played against
@@Niko6767 lies lol! Kobe got 1 mvp lol
Nobody can not jordan fans LEBRON fans or media. They hate when Jordan or peers choose Kobe. So what me as a Kobe fan has done is say since he the most hated player in nba history that alone makes him no less then top 3 or 5 but he my all time goat
Because it’s not true… Lebrons been better then Kobe for a very long time
MAMBA ALL DAY. TMAC was Lethal too.
I'm taking Jordan in his prime over everyone. I'm talking 88' jordan. Those yrs. Guy was an air Walker like I never seen before.
Show me Jordan hanging in mid air, and cocking back on Alonso Morning for a dunk like Vince Carter did. Air Canada is the highest flyer in NBA history! That's no even up for debate.
Funny because jordan clealry said he only wanna face one person in they prime and that’s Kobe prime year and Jordan prime year and it wasn’t no cotdamn 88 jordan. CZcams is history why won’t I FANATICS go take time out ur day and listen to the actual athletes and get out this fan state of mind for a second. These players have no reason to lie or say what ppl think they wanna hear. nba peers legends not media and fans always mention and say Kobe. Specially JORDAN
2003 Kobe was nutty
Tht 88 szn alone is why i can't say there's a better player ever than Mike and he wasn't even winning yet most thought he never would in the land of all those giants
@@deucemacsw all those giants? What???
While Kobe may not have had the same physical attributes as some other basketball legends like Shaquille O'Neal, LeBron James, Vince Carter, or Michael Jordan, he compensated with an unparalleled work ethic, dedication, and mental toughness. Kobe's success was indeed a result of his relentless pursuit of excellence, even without being a "freak of nature" in terms of physical attributes.
Bruh Kobe was 6’6-6’7, 205-215 lbs, jumping out the gym 😂 all you did was name some outliers.. Kobes still a freak of nature lmao
Jesus is the true greatest 😊
@@jedimindtricks5713 Jesus is the true greatest 😊
Kobe Goat
Thanks T- Mac for putting Some respect on Kobe Name. Nick Wright claimed Kobe was only the greatest player for 1 year, he lost all credibility after saying that.
Who's paying attention to Nick Wright?
2006 Kobe was dropping 55 points in a half outscoring teams by himself thru 3 quarters
Kobe the goat ! I'm sorry
Don't apologize bruh!! It's the truth.
Kobe was the best player ever at his prime years! Nothing wrong with that..
Not even in the Goat Conversation 2004 NBA Finals sealed his Fate, FG 45%...Top 15 player All-Time
@@anthonykyles4310 Oh my goodness Lebron loosing with Wade and Bosh too Dirk and Kidd & J Terry was the worst I’ve remember on a finals floor. Also Lebron just missed the play inn. Lebron is top 15 All time Top
@@anthonykyles4310 Lebron first two rings was on DWade team and his last ring was a bubble tournament. The 2016 title is his lone great great tittle and Irving sealed the deal on that.
Kobe vs Jordan. Wilt vs Shaq. These are just the type of match ups we all would love too see no matter who you got coming out on top. Basketball is a game where anything can happen in the moment. Competition pushes the limits. Nba, where amazing happens🏀🌎
Without a doubt, those are the top two one on one matchups in NBA history. If only we had a time machine
@@IbrahimLakeShow those are 2 matchups that both players have similar games to a T. Would be great to see no doubt
Kobe had a more diversified skill-set however, Jordan was hyper-focused and more skilled at what he did well than Kobe. Remember, if Kobe was "More Skilled" than Jordan why was he calling him up at 2 AM?
Because Kobe had superior handles, was a better three point shooter, tougher defender and played in a tougher era against superior guards and perimeter players than Jordan; Iverson, Arenas, T-Mac, Pierce, Joe Johnson, Lebron, Wade, Allen, James Harden, etc. Just imagine what a prime Kobe would’ve done to John Starks, Trent Tucker, Craig Ehlo, Randy Whitman, Rex Chapman, and all the scrubs that matched up against Jordan in a 1 on 1 expansion league!
@@hitek9too255 100% FACT
@@hitek9too255 prime Jordan would have outplayed all the guys you named.
Kobe would call Osama Bin Laden if he thought he could help him get better at the game of basketball. He was never satisfied or content!! Thats what made Kobe Kobe
Exactly. Kobe admitted himself that he would not have become who he became without Jordan. Jordan basically gave him all of the secrets
Kobe did outlast T-Mac and Vince, but prime T-Mac was a terror! Remember when Kobe was unhappy in LA T-Mac for Kobe rumors heated up!
Mahn for a guy that gets this much credit Kobe really is ranked to low as an nba player because if we talked about the "best basketball player" not most wins not most rings or mvps... "player" then kobe is the god of basketball
Stupid, you can’t have a debate about the best basketball player without taking wins into account.
For real kobe had not even f@cking flaw on his game
Kobe efficiency hurt him . He’s a bad shot taker the guys above him took better shots.
He's miles better than Lebron, no doubt.
ie peak Kobe > peak Lebron
not even close in my book
@@AnHebrewChild for you to say not even close let’s me know you don’t know what your talking about. Just remember Kobe has a winning record in the finals
Kobe Bryant was the most overall skilled sports athlete the planet has ever seen.
He was legendary for sure but I don’t think he’s the most skilled athlete to ever live
@@Groovingonem basketball wise yes
T mac was doing in his early 20's what it took Kobe in his late 20's to just start doing. Mcgrady was more talented than Kobe all the way around. His body just didn't hold up.
@@javiersanchez1661 if tmac himself saying he doesn’t measure up why would I listen to you? Tmac nowhere near Kobe…idc if he dropping points it’s Kobe hands down tmac can’t shoot left right threes and free throws he just more athletic
@@jessicagalvan3358 T mac could shoot from anywhere lol. He was shooting turnaround three's and dribbling behind the back shooting pull up 3's. It took kobe 10 years to win his 1st scoring title. Where t mac did the same thang in 4 or 5 years earlier than Kobe. Kobe played ball his whole life. T mac just started playing in high school. Mac already was better than Kobe a few years later.
JUST KEEP PUSHING AND STAY FOCUSED.
The struggle you're in today is developing strength you need for tomorrow! THE HARD WORK WILL PAY OFF!🤞🏽💪🏽❤️🔥
That's the reason why. Most of the media don't know what they are saying vs. retired NBA legends who played against a specific player. Media hyping one player while the NBA legends speaks facts and know what they are talking about.
Kobe's more skilled due to his footwork steming from his soccer background.
And Hakeem olajuwon
@@larryburks592 💯👍
Kobe had the best repertoire ever. Every distance. Micheal had him at the rim with the bigger hands, longer fingers as PJ has noted. Any and every shot Kobe took around the rim and out to the 3 pt line was part of his game. From deep turn around fades, to baby hooks to tear drops. He was longer than micheal so he could create a little bit more. He, Micheal, Wilt and Kareem and Russell the 4 most lethal players ever with a score needed. The Big Dipper prob number 1 in my book
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Kobe had more flair and better dribble moves, kinda street ball moves. Jordan just had no fat or excess about his game. But at the end of the day Jordan beats both Kobe and TMac one on one because he had more polished fundamentals and just insane athleticism as lot of experts pointed out he had perfect basketball body plus those gloves for hands.
Lmao it's not that deep bro like tmac said kobe was more skilled relax it's ok if jordan is not 1 in everything it's all subjective at end of the day
Jordan had defense
@@brandongilbert3071 Is it ok to disagree?
Jordan won the MVP and DPOY in the same season. Nuff said.
@@tonyregalado7281 that has nothing to do with beating each other one on one all of those awards are based on team sucess or lack thereof
I totally agree with you tracy mcgrady
Shannon crying inside that Lebron not mentioned lmao
More people know this is the truth than are willing to publicly admit it
Kobe 🐐
man I love the fact that tmac said he would put himself in that
💯Best part is Kobe would have put T-Mac in there too. There was no bigger admirer of T-Mac's game than Kobe.
Kobe the lil engine that could 100
Kobe Vs Jordan who ever get the ball first
Or whoever has it last
Players need to start doing 1 on 1s now just for fun I think that'll be a good thing to see since they been talking about that topic lately
T-Mac Penny and Magic Johnson my 3 favorite playerrs all time
we should scrap dunk contest and include one on ones in the all-star game.
You gotta love TMac.
T Mac just talking. Jordan jumper was wayyyy more purer and consistent. Kobe never shot 50% in a season. Jordan shot that for his career
He took less shots smh
Still kobe was more skilled jordan was the smarter player the teacher kobe was still a student who had more skill than his teacher but didn't have the self control like Jordan in all situations
T-Mac had the height and wing span to go 1vs1 against the greats he was a scoring machine who could also defend
Salute 🫡 Tmac Kobe rest in paradise
Tracy does not get is due as he should he was a BAAAAAAAD dude. Right up there with Kobe and Michael. And I am a huge KOBE fan.
He didn’t win anything and was a lackluster defender for being 6’8
Everyone knows kobe is the most skilled ever
FACTS!
T-Mac said Kobe not LeBron is the most skill player. So to all who think LeBron is listen to T-Mac no one never call LeBron. No former coach or player calls his name. Only Sharpe, Nick Wright and Media praise this guy so much
You make a great point. When actual players who played against these guys name names, I very seldom hear them bring up Bron
Kobe the goat
06-09 kob 🔥
When Jordan played that all star game in wizards Era, T-Mac missing free throws late in the game cost the East a win and cost Jordan another All-star MVP award.
Accept Lord Mamba as your lord and savior, or you shall repent
Toronto Vince was the guy cause at that time Kobe was coming off the bench behind Eddie Jones
Wrong
Michael Jordan mentality was and is Supernatural nobody close
Yeh, that mentality supersedes all. Not sure what all this talk about skill is for these days. Results speak louder.
Even Mike himself said that Kobe might was more tougher mentally than he was...
To answer this question honest. I’m going to take jordan words here where he said he would smash bird and whoever else he named but then paused and said KOBE CUD BEAT ME HE STOLE ALL MY MOVES. But mcgrady also just told u same thing BUT KOBE ADDED TO IT. Like wtf else do y’all fan boys need to hear bout Kobe DAGOAT man? Phill Jackson told u Kobe and Jordan same player outside of Kobe jumper and irfan hand size and chose jordan hand size but emphasized they are the exact same player. Ima take the player who everybody consider the goat analysis here and SAY KOBE WINS JUST LIKE JORDAN TOLD YALL.
love kobe but his defense was not on the same level as jordan.
@@carolinawest7001 name a player jordan had to defend day in day out as much and offer as Kobe? DOM Wilkins ? Who else John Starks, who? He also pippen had the goat wing of all time defense as well as Ron Harper out there. Just tell me the wings jordan faced that’s better then Kobe faced during his reign. SIR ILL WAIT?
@@dootscoot1444 lol good point. Never thought of that. Kobe definitely had tougher perimeter players to guard 🤔
@@dootscoot1444 penny hardaway, mitch ritchmond, clyde drexler, drazen petrovic to name a few. but of course u dont know em..
I love it truth
💯
Do not play the most skilled player that ever lived man kobe is unbelievable
Kobe
If I'm not mistaken Shannon sent a tweet or something on Facebook or whatever it was at the time he said ' God , Micheal Jordan and Kobe ' as the GOAT in basketball around 2007,2008
He’s getting paid to switch up lol jk
Lebron was only in the league a few years by then. He became a Lebron guy in the 2010s when he started to win. 2013 Lebron was when people went wait a minute this guy’s unstoppable as an individual player now.
And just to mention the one that is talking was one of the most skilled player ever doing the game.
You can tell by Shannon’s body language, he was hoping T-Mac would have said LeBron not Kobe.
Sigh 😓. The Lakers and very much Kobe Bryant was my life from the time I was 7 (1997) to the time he retired ... Still haven't made peace with it, personally I still feel was becoming to successful and his helicopter was sabotaged
Kobe isn't more skilled Jordan just mastered the game that he made it look easy, that's skill, and defense is a skill-set
Amen
Man idgaf what T Mac says Jordan smokes Kobe
People hate real greatest
Kobe wining every single game
I rest my case.
Micheal Jordan never had to guard player with the offensive skill set of kobe tmac ..so its hard to say he would've stopped them one on one ..either way.wouldve been fun to watch
He loved hanging out with his teammates though
McGrady defense on Toronto was top shelf .... his effort on both ends was at Max then when he got to Orlando he was asked to score more and his effort on the defensive end slowly regressed. i guess he didn't have that extra gear stamina competitive edge that kobe had for the defensive side and that's where I feel he was lesser then kobe . just that true grit 100% effort on both sides.. but again his burden with Orlando was alot greater than kobe and the lakers So I can understand why he wore out faster and didn't have qs much oomph ... so many variables to consider its hard to compare 😪 players evenly stats and accomplishments only give 75 % perce t of the answers in q nba player debate there's just so.much more to it
I love when players tell you Kobe is the best ever. They say Kobe is the most skilled ever but then they still put jordan at 1. No one is better than Kobe and Mike.
t mac doesnt remember the 11-3 that kobe gave him on a private 1v1 before lol
Tracy's is out of his mind, the most skilled basketball player was Michael Jordan.
A lot of NBA hall of famers have said Kobe had better feet work than Jordan and was a better three points shooter
@@lucianotecuanapa9853 Foot work is based on efficiency. Jordan had no wasted energy. Kobe had lots of wasted movement and took many steps to get the ball in the hoop.
MAJOR FACTS
@@EnduringArts thank you! These people don’t understand basketball. Like Kobe said "Jordan had no wasted movement"
@@EnduringArts “wasted movement,” my God. We have to stop nerds from talking about sports
Facts nobody is or was or skilled as kobe
Rip
Bro you have to go back to the old school video games NBA Live and 2K to see who's going to win those matchups
Kobe is NOT more skilled then Jordan
same guy who said kd/kyrie is the most skilled duo
If there is no Jordan Kobe the NBA player don't exist
91 Jordan vs 06 Kobe would be the greatest 1v1 ever. But 03 Tmac could beat either of them. He was unstoppable.
No one is touching Jordan. Tmac was
Almost as good offensively but he couldn’t win a single playoff series. Jordan would have assaulted him
Tmac played horrible defensive relative to his size too
@@ry_an. 1v1 defense isn't the same as 5v5 lol
@@Dom213 was tmac really that good at either?
@@ry_an. Yes lol. Kobe gave him mad props on his 1v1 skills
Kobe > lebron
😂😂😂😂
Only stat nerds and people who never played organized basketball think LeBron was better than Kobe. 80% of players and coaches choose Kobe.
@@thsu8 u better preachhhh
@@thsu8 lol exactly!
See I've been Kobe was Jordan 2.0 he was regardless of how many rings
Jordan was a better athlete and defender.
Please tell him
Tmac and Kobe in the same team ~ almost happened
Shannon is on leflop's jock
Bryant is only 9 months older than McGrady
I agree Kobe had better overall offensive skill but Jordan is still a better basketball player overall. More efficient scorer, better defender, better finisher, better leader, better in clutch situation, played better within the flow of an offense.
Man u crazy
People don’t understand the difference between 1 on 1 than Team players Jamal Crawford can cook any NBA player any era 1 on 1 its an aspect of the game NOT the whole thing its like saying a father who makes alot of money is a good father but he only has the money.There is way more to being a father.
i say kobe had more arsenal....shot percentage wise percentage wise?
I seriously wish Kobe spoke to Shannon once in person. Set the boy straight. Shannon has no clue on Kobe's greatness.
Dont insist this false narration,, jordan would dominate basketball in all eras
What he say Shannon ?
11-3
You’re g*ddam right, Mr. Mcgrady. You’re one of the best 1v1 player of all time.
Both Kobe & Mike is shooting 32 % from 3’s
I'm bonafide kobe fan. But from a skill level only thing kobe had over jordan was handle. Everything else kobe copied from mike literally. How can kobe be more skilled then Jordan when his whole game was built off of Jordan's blueprint.
defining skill purely as "who has a bigger bag" is stupid. efficiency in your basketball ability has to be a large factor. yeah it's cool that kobe can shoot a left handed fadeaway with low fg%. that doesn't make him more skilled than jordan who can get to the rim or his mid range spots whenever he wants and shoot a high %.
Actually Tmac I think you were the most skilled player tbh
Olajuwon was definitely the most skilled imo!!!
He's up there for sure.
Sorry he couldn’t shoot so no
@@jessicagalvan3358 Huh, you might want to go back and watch the tapes. He had a good jumpshot and he was good on the free-throw line. Did you actually see The Dream play?
@@lloydhudson9032 25 threes with 20% in 18 seasons doesn’t sound like a good shooter
@@CJ-ui9zo I never said he was Steph Curry. I said he had a jumper compared to other centers. Hakeem is underrated and almost never mentioned in the top 10 or even 20 of all time greats, and that's just wrong in my opinion.