Sapphire RX 580 Pulse Repair - Artifacting
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every time from this channel a new thing happens
i am thankful to you by giving us your time and knowledge
great work
Hey i've watched every video youve posted! awesome work im learning a lot and managed to fix a card based on the knowledge you gave me.
This is a really good video!
I happen to have the exact same vertical stripes on the same type of card.
Thank you for the nice and imformative videos you keep posting!
Excellent work, as always 💪
I learn lots of things from you.
Thanks man
Im So glad i stumbled upon this video as i litteraly had just bought a RX570 off of someone and It had the exact same artifacts and didn't know if the board was straight up gona fry but i looked the Board up and which Memory bank is which and got it replaced. My RX570 works perfectly now, Thanks to you i managed to revive it to perfect condition :D
Amazing video, great explanation skills, I had exactly the same problem on an rx580 that I bought last week, I returned it immediately, thank you!
is there a difference between artifacting due to bad GPU and corrupted mem bank, pattern-wise? I'm getting a bright blue rectangle on a MSI 390x on the exact place as yours only the left side of the screen
Hello, thanks for sharing with us. Is there a way t o get the mainboard datasheet to check or see all the chips and components? Thanks ins advance.
at which point do you measure the short circuit with the plus pole? at which capacitor do you feed the current in?
I would love to see a tutorial on how to resolder the memory IC. It's one of the hardest thing to repair ...
That would be really helpful 🙏
A common way is to use a preheater underneith and a hot air station above. That limits the total amount of direct heat on the IC. For me, I simply use a hotplate that I dial in around 150c and then use 300c above via the hot air gun. But...any slow preheat of the PCB should suffice.
@@bluethumbdiy4735 but there is no way around reballing, right?
@@standartblitz6798 I mean, you can order preballed memory ICs off of sites like Aliexpress and Taobao and then get someone to do it or you. But otherwise yes, there's no way around reballing.
@@standartblitz6798 Are you talking about the memory itself of the GPU core? If memory, it can be reballed and/or replaced with new (I recommend the latter). The GPU core, if you mean the onboard memory controller, has to be removed and reballed or replaced with a working one. Reballing is very difficult on the core itself as there is both the chip and the carrier, which are hard to separate.
I have an rx580 of this model and i can't get the aux power (the one at the top opposite to the memory power reg) to get on. I already replaced a damaged pwm driver near to it and checked the mosfets but is still dead. Do you have any idea where i can look for any other damage?
Thanks! With this video i discarded shorted memory chips already!...
I have a gtx 1050 TI which shows bad a0 memory module . I've replaced module with a working one but yet shows bad module (MATS) . I've got 1.5v feeding rams (all of them) tested caps and resistors surrounding modules buy I've found nothing , I've reballed GPU but same , I'm thinking that I have either a bad GPU (memory controller) or bad trace somewhere . What should I do? (Was trying to trace every ram module trace to GPU, comparing good bank with bad bank)
Huge thanks for the coverage of this topic. I always thought this type of artifacting was caused by trace damage inside the memory controller.
May I ask where you did find these images?
I don't remember anymore, but images like these are often passed around on forums like vlab.su
I have bought a used sapphire pulse Rx 580 same as the one in video it also has two vrams glued with epoxy i want to know if manufacturers glues these vram chips or is it repaired
Nice work. I have one question for you, my xfx rx 470 4gb.Measurig memory resistance I have 600 and higher.Memory Elpida and I don't have display but fan spin.Thanks
Great video!
Another fixed GPU as usual, hehe, you're an excellent repairer, unbelievable knowledge
Amazing video. Could you please post link where we can buy the memory channel?
Thanks in advance!
Awesome! This video has given me hope that my video card can be repaired. I have the exact same Sapphire Pulse RX580 8GB with the exact same artifacts as described in this video.
I can also indicate that I could not secure my video card firmly enough in the PCI slot. I transported my system cabinet quite often. After some time I got stripes on the screen that disappeared when I moved the video card a bit. But that became increasingly difficult to get rid of the artifacts, as they appeared more often, stayed and my PC also froze. In the end, just like in your video, two bars were constantly showing across the screen.
I do live in Suriname, South-America, where I haven't found a repair technician who has experience fixing graphic cards. I just requested a quote on your website, and I hope you also accept equipment from abroad for repair. If unfortunately you don't, this is my SOS to everyone who reads this. Thanks in advance for any response.
A sagging gpu or loose gpu on the pcie slot will eventually damage the traces under the vram modules by bending the pcb. Notice in the video that A channel is close to the pcie connection. A usual failure for many heavy cards hanging on the pcie
@@HGL-iq4qg Thank you for your response HGL2020. If only I had known this sooner, I could have prevented my GPU (which immediately increased in price) from being destroyed by placing and transporting my system case upright instead of horizontal.
Unfortunately I have not (yet) been able to ship my GPU (by FedEx, UPS , nor DHL) from Suriname to @Tech Cemetery in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, United States. Hopefully it will still work, but if it doesn't work, I would like to know which of you sells an online DIY course so that I can interest someone here in buying it and offering the service here in Suriname? Thanks in advance for the response.
i had the same error on an MSI rx 580, after running dmgg python script it gave me errors for memory bank D0 or D1, or chips 7 or 8. but my memory module isn't shorted, as far as i can tell ( not much experience) so I dont know if i can still do that alcohol test
i had 1660s, this gpu can't display to monitor(3dp, and 1 hdmi), but when i used other card as display it detect on windows, then i try furmark, 3dmark time spy it work, (display from another card gt 730), are conector fail or somethings the others?
where to buy ram memory for graphics? can it be taken out of the used one or?
Im having this same problem but a different manufacturer, will it be the same process to fix?
I have the same problem but I do not have tools like you and I using my care to mining can I cancel that memory chip and continue mining width the other chips
Hello. I recently discovered that my vram has gone bad.
The games themselves work fine, but OCCT showed 7000+ vram errors.
What should I do?
Useful info.
Interesting theory about corrupted channel.
I'll check it
Hello sir love your videos sir i have rx 480 without driver it behave fine but after driver installation monitor start to blink and goes back and come again and this occur repeatedly is it vram fault can i change the vram or not? And what is the sucess rate of changing vram.
hello what do you use to stress test gpu's?thnx
can this be caused by memory controller it self
or it will be always the memory bank
when we see these vertical stripes
It can be caused by the memory controller itself.
Can you tell me where you ordered the repair parts? I have the same problem
I need a tool for my 6800xt i can not see what memory is with the falt on currently software
Do you have some simillar case to mine? and hint me whats its wrong?
I have RX 590 , that have some issues on booting - when i get to desktop it sometimes get artefacting small rainbow squares in a rectangular line.
Sometimes its look like the driver wont load/fails to load and monitor start to trying recorver the driver monitor goes black and try to start up.
or last few times monitor was just black/no signal detected.
The best part this only happen at first cold boot when my pc was excluded from the slat when i have this kind of issues its just need a restart or shunting down.
As sometime after a restart there still some issues like videos goes glitching - breaking the frame or showing green screen corruption etc.
I change drivers, try diffrent cable , and diffrent hdmi port , not much of help.
Now i change monitor (sadly its not perfers more like a downgrade) from hdmi to old dvi and hoping it wasnt show any issues.
As it happen random like 1 boot in a month or something. Oh and yes if its boot its boot i can play heavy , modern games and nothing happens.
And i never get card over 65C so i dont burn anything i can know.
Nice job!
I remember a long time ago I had a card that worked fine except that in games it would often stretch certain textures into infinity. I always felt that something in the VRAM was corrupted and that it was feeding corrupted values for UVW coordinates of the 3d models (or perhaps the vertices themselves) into to the core which then drew the assets incorrectly on the screen as a result. Not sure if this is true, I guess a bad core could also do this but then again the card was otherwise fully functional and never crashed, it just stretched those textures like crazy in every 3d game (no artifacts in Windows itself). Was definitely interesting. I believe it was a 7900GT.
My Nvidia Asus en9600gt 512mb did that too in counter strike source, was fun!
Love your videos..bro..!! much love..:D...
Hi, interested in the soldering station used and the multimeter also.
hi i need your expertise i have asus rx580 windows see the card but when i install driver the computer crash same on linux i can be linux without driver install
GPU is Hot fan is spining bios is ok (i reflash under linux)
Thanks a lot, you are great!
Bro how do you memorize all these voltage rails and where to measure? There are no schematics or something that can help. Could you please answer my question, that would help me alot because i struggle to know where to put and how much voltage at a certain component.
Experience, there's nothing easy about learning something as obscure as graphics cards. Come by the discord if you have question.
i plugged this card but there is no infomation /driver of it on display adapter, is it broken?
i have a 580 coming, runs for awhile, then artefacts then no video, possibly a thermal issue?
I have a gtx 970 and I want to learn how to fix gpu can you help me identify the problem when put it in my pc fans twitch and pc turns off I took off the cooler and I see the gpu gets warm and it turns off and also the pc
Is it safe to substitute like for like mosfets? Some older cards have mosfets that are somewhat obsolete. Plenty of similar ones out there but I’m not sure if they’ll behave the same way
Depends on the model
@@TechCemetery model of gpu or mosfet? It’s for a 980 ti
Have a 1080 Ti, in 2D it works just fine but in games it crashes after a short while with the same artifacts over the screen and the computer usually freezes. If not It will work in 2D again but its touchy. Any ideas?
Where do I buy a replacement memory thing?
Hi, do you experience low fps but the gpu is high end
Hey, i have the same card, and I tried randomly one day gpumemtest and it says "failed", but the games run fine, what does this mean?
Is it dying?
Nice job on the troubleshooting. Did you just happen to have a replacement chip? It would have been helpful to see where you were placed your probe when testing the ohms on the back of the card. Thanks for sharing your work.
I took the memory chip off a donor board. The probe point is just the inductor itself as it's a through hole variant.
Hey bro, can vram on gtx 1080ti can be fixed? cuz my games just keep crashing and one of my friend told me its bc of bad vram
when replacing the memory module do you need to use the same exact memory reference ?
Yesss
wow never knew that. when i got artifacts i just go reflow chip.. thanks for the info
Hey. I bought a sapphire rx580 8gb and it has artifacts all over the screen and eventually freezes. I tested the memory fuse and it’s getting 19omhs there, so nothing seems shorted, how can I find out which memory module is causing it, or a few of them. I already found the exact memory parts and all necessary tools since I have knowledge to replace such parts. Just need to know which ones are causing it as I don’t know why buy all memory modules for $10+ ea. thanks ahead
Don’t want to buy all memory modules for $10 each*
Can you please tell us also why does the vram fails? Thank you
Because of mining
Do GPUs last another year or two after this kind of repair?
i have asus gtx 750ti 2gb issue is garbage display and code error 43 ,is this vram or memory problem or just power supply?
I’m having a different issue I’ve watched a lot of these but the artifact bars are horizontal and aren’t always there they appear every so often not constantly but enough to be annoying?
Thats something new , that those vertical artifacts actually meant something
thankyou for new knowledge of me
Hello, hope you reply this comment. I have ASUS DUAL RX 580 4GB and i have exact problem that you have. And my card has warranty, my point is does warranty take cover this problem?
Where do you get replacement RAM?
Taobao typically. I'd buy them new and straight from Mouser/Digikey if I could. The one you see in the video was taken from a donor card.
My XFX rx570 8gb gives artifact with screen freeze only when utilizes more than 2gb vram. What's the reason behind this & how to solve this?
How many degrees C do you set to remove/solder that VRAM module?
788*F
@@TechCemetery thank you, that's 420 ⁰C. I thought it would be too much anything above 350 ⁰C (662 ⁰F), but now I know it's not.
Dear sirs,
I connected the rx 580 graphics card to the motherboard incorrectly with a USB interface cable from the riser. I connected the USB socket upside down to the PCIE port. After a minute, I realized that my card did not work. The fans are spinning but I have no output. The question is which piece of card is most likely burned? Feed chip? Or?
Can you provide us the two pictures?
hey bro I need help so i have the exact same card RX sapphire 580! and its artifact issue that comes only shows for like 15 sec after PC booting esp when I boot it after 8hrs or so and it self fixes and doesn't causes any problem after that! what can be the issue?!
Probably memory.
what hot air gun u use
As I experienced on AMD cards: It is on 99% the chip on the PCIe slot, as yours. Somehow on Nvidia cards this doesn't happen so often.
I think this has to do with card bending on the slot. From time to time I also noticed ripped pads there.
I'll keep that in mind, thanks!
Did you mean memory chip near the pcie? If yes, so can we just reball it without change it?
@@Intercomp_salam Maybe, you have to try it.
@@Intercomp_salam I tried it and yes: You can.
Most of the time there are just narrow stripes on the screen. This indicates there is just a data line disconnected. Due of the pinout of GDDR there are some on the outer pins, so they are stressed at most. In this case just reball the chip and you are fine. I repaired a lot of cards this way, none ever came back.
But in this particular case as shown in the video here, I don't think reballing will work. I think the chip itself was damaged. Maybe there was a short between some pins, but I would replace the chip also.
@@matthiash.4670 Hello sir i have an rx 480 4gb card but it run fine with driver when i tried to install the driver it start to blink into black and come normal this process continues and mouse cursor also freeze sir is this the problem of vram ?
I have a similar issue but it's a bunch of short green lines and I just have low resolution
3:53 i really really would like to know details how to do the PSU and shorting troubleshooting
Where can I send a gpu to get this done for me? Preferably florida area
Graphics Card Technicians are absurdly rare. If you join my discord, you'll have a few options in the USA.
You tell me i can use the 861DW to take the memory down? what nozzle you use? It came with 3. Settings? You made it look to easy. :D
No nozzle, 788*F
What do you think would cause shorted and corrupted VRAM on all 12 ICs? Half are completely shorted, two of which were too hot to touch, and the remaining 6 are giving back errors. No power rail issues. Card boots but with artifacts. It could be BGA trouble with the core but doesn't explain shorted VRAM.
Voltage spike
@@TechCemetery Worth changing out the memory phase mosfets? Both low and high side?
If you're willing replace the entire VRAM, I'd also consider the MOSFETs and the controller.
@@TechCemetery lol...I guess those are easy in retrospect. And safer.
Sorry, another question as I can't seem to get a straight answer. Though the NorthridgeFix guy (not as good as you) says you can do this. Can you replace like for like mosfets? It's getting harder to find older mosfets but easy to find what should be newer equivalents, short of the newer ones having better ratings such as higher current and lower resistance. Can I simply "upgrade" the mosfet or am I asking for trouble. Specifically, I want to replace NTMFS4C08N with NTMFS4C024N. Both or ONSemi and do the same thing....
What type monitor did you use? Quite like it!
HP 27xi
Hi man greetings from Peru. I have a Gigabyte RX580 and I tested and found 2 VRAM modules damaged. What kind of tool do you recommend me to buy to fix my video card. I have a videos card donator with modules to extract it but with my poor air hot gun is imposible. Almost I buy the T862++ bga rework but I read that not very accurate for temperature management. please answer my question 🙏
I use a hot air station for memory swaps.
@@TechCemeterywhat kind model of hot air station?
@@unknownforever4900 Quick 861DW
Nice job 😃👍
good job mate.
Dude, you're just awesome! Great video as i have the exact same issue on RX580. Now there is a thing, in case there is no short, do we have to replace both chips on the same channel?
Ok, i clearly got issue with channel A RAMs, but how to be sure that it's the chips and not some regulator?
@@autodiag7044 same question. I have 2 RX 580's with the same issue and the weird thing is it's always the channel A!
I've tried to replace the 2 modules with another pair of modules (the same brand but a bit different) and the GPU doesn't work anymore.
Fans don't even spin. So I wonder if there's another possible issue.
Another tech on youtube told me that it might be a defective memory controller inside the GPU itself.
So I don't really know right know.
@@kakkoishonen I think that it's mem controller inside core. Now there is an option to edit BIOS to mask Channel A so the GPU will work with 3 channels instead of 4 (6GB instead of 8GB). It can be done on NVIDIA GPUs, i've found a tutorial. It can be adapted to AMD, it needs more research.
i have rx580 8gb 2048sp. card not working when i put card in motherboard . card not show and one square chip heat up ( it name Stc r33 ). i don't know this chip . please help me.
Heed help, Xfx rx 580, no boot, has 3 beeps 1 long 2 short, resistance ok 0.6 omh gpu 22omh memory, when used with 2nd card shows error 43 and recognized as rx 590, its dual bios, gpu starts getting hot, with these days prices i need it to work, anyone knows software which can show specific vram chip fault?
wait a second, how did the card even post a picture whilst the memory line resistance to ground is below 1 ohm ? never seen such a thing.
The current draw was low enough that the memory VRM was able to keep up.
I have an ASUS Strix RX580 8gb and the same problem as yours.
My question is: can I use a different ram for the replacement parts?
'cuz I have a dead rx580 with a Samsung K4G80325FB-HC28 but the Asus Strix ram is K4G80325FC-HC25.
What I know about the differences between those 2 rams is only the speed. 7gbps for the HC25 and 8gbps for the HC28.
Thanks for your reply.
It should be fine.
@@TechCemetery thank you very much bro ♥
thank you so mach.
Bro why my sapphire rx 460 always get artifact when fresh boot like 3 seconds and after that(login to dekstop) the PC run just normally, i try to many driver but always the same
Hey im thinking if it's pulling so much current that the memory is overheating so how rest of the memory is still working but artifacting when you turn it on? I mean the voltage should be dropped so low that rest of the memory wouldn't be able to turn on
Could be due to it being at 150-300MHz. After it tries loading drivers, it jumps crashing the system.
@@trouble_maker023 hmm makes sense, the last time i repaired AMD card with memory corruption it's not even shorted so this is completely new to me
The VRM can handle a theoretical 30A. The shorted memory chip was only drawing 4A. Possibly 10A if 1.55v was used for testing. Plenty of headroom there.
@@nightfury3619 yep, the increased amperage after driver initialisation is what causes the black screen
So depends on how shorted it is then. Just remembered i had RX 560 with shorted memory but i can't turn it on because no voltage present. I guess it's shorted really badly that it won't even turn on
I've just acquired a Gigabyte RX 580 8gb that was sold as artefacting, I saw a video from the seller of it doing this. I've installed it on my system and I cannot even get an output, although it is detected correctly as a secondary gpu in Windows safe mode. I keep getting 'thread stuck in device driver' error.... anyone have any ideas please? Many thanks
Hi, I have a Radeon VII. card was working fine but now no display and 0Mhz on GPU-Z , Please need help
Do you still fix RX 480/580?
It'll be cool if you make a video testing the AMD Memory corruption tool, Thank you again for Knowledge share !
About testing corrupted memory in case when no picture
DAMN awesome video dude, i wish i could repair my amd r9 280, could you please do a more detail video with how to do what to do step by step, what to check, and everything important, please.
i'm not electronics expert, but i have some basic knowledge, i do have multimeter and soldering iron, what else would i need? how do i get new memory module?
this card has been serveing me for a werry long time, and i really want to make it work
it all started with this "artifacting" just like in tis video, and after reboot it worked for a month, now it starts windows wetouth artifacting, but it goes to black screen shortly.
Hola, haces videos es español? sabes que tengo una asrock (Phamton Gaming) RX 580 de 8GB y no me da imagen! necesito saber cómo repárala!
Superb
such an underrated channel, thanks so much for the tips
bro i need help 911, the thing is i got a 2070 super,I have a little to no knowledge of repairing gpu. the thing is the pc recognizes it but it dont give no video out, from any of the output no display port no hdmi, no mini hdmi nothing. but pc knows its there and using the Teamvewer it doint gives no error like if everithing its ok. sorry for my bad english bro.
Pretty amazing
How come I see alot of dead Radeon VII. Do you know why they die? I see miners with Radeon VII afraid of turning off their rig afraid it wont turn on again.
HBM cards typically die because of the interposer they use. The interposer is the substrate that connects the GPU to the memory itself.
Woah I just had this exact problem on the RX 580 in my main PC happening 1 week ago, also channel A corruption (Found out with the help of some amazing people, but good to see the information here as well!).
Currently waiting for the parts to arrive from china.
Already have a hot air station, a GDDR5 stencil and solder paste if needed (Memory module should come with solder balls pre-attached), will be my first BGA replacement.
Exciting!
Thanks for the helpful information!
I'm doing the same. Just ordered stencil, leaded solder balls (45 mm is the correct size fyi), and new GDDR5 memory. The new memory will come balled already. GDDR5 VRAM is so cheap now...just makes more sense to buy new. I bought 13x 1GB ICs for $35 shipped. Consider a hotplate for preheat before attempting to remove/replace VRAM ICs
@@bluethumbdiy4735 preheat at which temperature?
@@cmd8086 It really depends on what you're trying to desolder and what is around it. But in short, I tend to keep my temps just under leaded solder melting temps, which is ~180c. Unless you have really good equipment and a accurate temperature probe...it's a rough in number. My equipment is just marginal so I have to use a temp scanner and a lot of guess work.
Did you have any vram testing software
did you fix the GPU?
Another great repair.. But bro, i ever had same case with R9 280X. Vertical artifacted, because i dont have any spare of memory, so i just reflow it all of the memory also the chip with rework station for 5 minutes at 400 celcius (15 seconds for each memory module and 5 minutes for the chip) the artifact was gone. And untill now still works to play some hard games. And i ever saw on chinese youtube, they were use a program called TSERVER to knew the faulty of the memory (just like nvidia mats mods on nvidia card). And when i asked about how to got it, they didnt answer..
Are you taking any work? I need a 1070 repaired. Thank you!
His email is in the description or in his discord
Anyone would happen to have such information for R9 290??