UPWORK AGENCY VS FREELANCER - What Should YOU Choose? 🤔
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- UPWORK AGENCY VS FREELANCER - If you wonder what you should choose, agency vs freelance, then this episode on freelancer vs agency and how to start an agency on upwork is for you. Today you will learn how to start an agency, what does it mean being agency owner, and whether it's better than freelancing. If you're a freelancer on Upwork, but you want to build an upwork agency - this is for you. You will learn why agency is better then freelancing, and learn pros and cons to freelance vs agency. Watch this episode on freelancer vs entrepreneur and join our i.t people community waitlist ;)
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00:00 - Sniper or machine gunner?
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02:10 - Freelancer pros #2 & #3
03:30 - Working as a freelancer CONs
04:25 - Working as an Agency PROs
06:04 - Working as an Agency CONs
07:14 - Agency con #2
08:26 - Agency con #3
09:17 - So what is best?
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TIME CODES
00:00 - Sniper or machine gunner?
01:14 - Working as a Freelancer PROs
02:10 - Freelancer pros #2 & #3
03:30 - Working as a freelancer CONs
04:25 - Working as an Agency PROs
06:04 - Working as an Agency CONs
07:14 - Agency con #2
08:26 - Agency con #3
09:17 - So what is best?
10:12 - Next episode
It really boils down to what you specifically need, totally agree. Love the advice and comparison between the two!
Thank you - glad you liked the episode! ^_^ Yes, it really depends on the person what they would be up to - for Agency, much more commitment would be required :)
Great rund down! I think my approach would be to start with freelancing and move towards the agency concept 😊 I wonder of that would help with getting more projects as an agency down the line...
Absolutely! You’re reading my mind 🙂 I’ll be mentioning that in my next video, about getting customers as agency 🤓
Great Olga, love your delivery style. And oh those flowers.
Mafia!? Well, I guess a girl can dream. ; / 😆
There's time to shoot, and there's time to smell flowers 😁
Great video. I run a small agency and the stress is very real. Coordinating the team and making sure everyone delivers as expected can also be a pain. No freelancer will ever take the work as seriously as the owner. So don't pursue this model if you can't constantly supervise or afford to pay someone to supervise for you (like a project or operations manager).
Exactly. It takes stamina not to give up, the stress is skyrocketing. But then I’m a mom of twins. I’m used to constant stress 🤷🏻♀️
What’s your agency’s core direction?
Thanks for sharing all the important points about upwork agency, to be honest I find you this video as the only valuable one, to make a decision go ahed with freelancer account or with agency
Glad it was useful! So what have you decided? :)
Thanks for your response@@OlgaPogozheva
For now I need to start agency anyway, because I need to register my team, and try to search some projects for them.
I had upwork account it's almost 6 years, and skipped that because one of my clients put a negative rate and closed the contract (You mentioned as well that Upwork always on client side), because of that rate I've loosed my top rated status profile rate etc...
now I won't to come back and start agency with team, I hope this will bring us some fresh projects.
Again thanks a lot for sharing all this useful information.
All your videos - Great content!
Thank you - great to learn you're a long-standing spectator :) what are your favorite topics here on my channel?
@@OlgaPogozheva No, not a long-standing one here, just started watching the videos since yesterday.. I have not seen any other youtube channel making such good content oriented videos.. I'm interested in your IT, startup related videos.. Thanks for asking..
@@manivannangurusamy6652 ahh I see - happy you like the content. And yes, I'm definitely planning to move more to IT-related content. Are you planning to launch any business of yours, or are you just investigating?
@@OlgaPogozheva I'm investigating for now.. Actually I'm going to join a semiconductor startup of my friend by next month, I left my corporate job some months back, so I'm little anxious.. At the same time, I'm looking forward to new challenges in life..
@@manivannangurusamy6652 I see. Make sure you have some income/savings to rely on, while you build a startup with your friend. In startups, you're never going to see the money for the first months-years of operation. Of course there are exceptions, but those are rare. Here's a good episode about marketing your startup product: czcams.com/video/qoXuHJjRZXs/video.html , might be handy. Despite lame video quality, my guest provides super helpful insights. I'm actually working with the guy from time to time on various occasions. Good luck with whatever challenges that might come your way!
great vid :) btw do your agency have mobile app developers ?
No, and we don’t need them 🙂 We don’t provide mobile apps development services.
I just love watching you I don't know why
Hopefully you find the content useful? You never know how and when you can apply extra knowledge!
very good and useful Olga.... worth Subbing Channel.
Thank you 🙂 is there any specific information you are looking for?
Well explained, I'm thinking to create agency now
Have you defined the direction?
@@OlgaPogozheva still not, can you help me a little bit? I have some confusion related to Upwork agency and I couldn't find any perfect content that either it is best or not
@@solidstudioart6009 🤦♂
I think a bit of both are a good plan!
Makes sense 🙂 but in case of the agency, you’ll have to spend more time on communication, and it’s only worth the effort in the long run 👌
informative content keep it up
Thank you! Are you working via Upwork?
@@OlgaPogozheva yeh i recently started
@@ayub_ubi congrats! are you currently developing your profile as a freelancer?
+1 vote for agency :) Thanks )
Is it because you want a scalable business or because you don't like to work yourself? :)
“Are you a sniper or a machine gunner”....I’m listening.
Ahaha :))) so what's your answer?.. 😉
@@OlgaPogozheva lol! I’d make a terrible sniper. At least on call of duty I’m a terrible sniper :-p
@@jquick85 haha, I see :) well, real life might be nothing like CoD? I was the worst in Counter-Strike (though I still was a part of our student team), but then in real life? I'm shooting like a pro, with no training whatsoever. Call it a natural talent if you will :) I'm just hitting the target somehow (sometimes I can't even see it 100% due to mmy eyesight!). Sooo... you never know till you try?.. :)
@@OlgaPogozheva But now you are well expert 😁🌟🌺
I have been working as a freelancer for the past 2 years. Now thinking of creating an agency just because of scalability. You cannot grow from a certain level as a freelancer.
True! What’s your skills set? What would be the direction of your agency?
Is it ok if agency members work from different IPs (all work from home)? Because due to a large number of suspension complaints, we see from Upwork users so don't know if it's legal or not.
it's ABSOLUTELY OK. Unless, of course, you enter the SAME freelancer's account from different IPs. Then it is a problem.
amazing video: doing great as a freelancer but looking to set up my agency soon... ALTHOUGH I see some power freelancers who simply operate as an agency. I was an agency for two weeks and didn't really feel an advantage over freelancing. No free connects, etc...
There AREN'T any! Who told you there are? O_O On the contrary, you will HAVE TO BUY ADDITIONAL CONNECTS for your team members, AND pay for Premium account (otherwise you won't be able to apply on their behalf). So organizational-wise? It's far more convenient than acting as a Freelancer. You start an Agency for one reason only: to let others work for you and your projects. For this condition alone! And all the risks and expenses are on you.
I create video ads as a freelancer. Really want to scale this in to an agency. But my biggest worries are finding dedicated talents
Yes indeed, this is one of the hardest problems to overcome. If earlier on, there was a lack of projects/clients, now it's the lack of resources/contractors. Try searching people outside of Upwork, on thematic forums, in Telegram chats and via personal recommendations.
I'll choose freelancing , that way I could learn more tech and be able to compete , Whether as freelancer or regular job but in life you cannot always work eventually you have to pay the bill always so will choose agency after certain age and financial stability :)
Good choice! Surely, you have to gain some experience, both professional-wise and on Upwork, to be able to start an Agency there. What's your direction btw?
@@OlgaPogozheva be the employee before managing the employee's 😇
@@sanjaykumar007 good luck! :)
@@OlgaPogozheva thank you
I’m a bit of both💯💯💯💯
Sniper with a machine gun 💯
@@KenanGrace haha, I know that, Kenan! I can 100% believe that ^_^ because you're KILLING it with your niche!..
@kenan whats your niche?
@@sumaira393 check out his channel 😉
Greetings from California. 🙂 What is the difference between registering as an agency vs being a contractor and hiring subcontractors for parts of your projects? It would be great to know from legal perspective as well. Also, I wanted to comment that your English is great. I do hear Russian accent, but it is not thick. For someone who hasn't lived in US at least for 10 years, you sound amazing. I was shocked to find out that you actually live in Ukraine and not somewhere in New York. What city in Ukraine do you live in?
Wow, this is a lengthy one :) let me try to cover all of your questions.
1) I live in Odessa, Ukraine (born, raised, and probably will die here, haha)
2) I've worked with US clients for about 8 years now, so I have to sound convincing, even if not 100% accent-free😅
3) there's no difference in registering, you, either way, register as an individual, and then, if you choose to, you can create an agency under your name
4) hiring subcontractors on Upwork is kinda prohibited, so you risk being kicked out of the platform if any of your clients choose to report you
5) however, if you operate as an Agency, you can add agency members (individuals), agree on the hourly rate you pay to them, then set the hourly rate you're going to sell them to your clients in their profiles. Good to go!
6) Legally it doesn't matter either - when on the platform. You are being paid on whatever account you choose - your individual one or your corporate one (if you have a legal company). How you pay your taxes and pay your contractors outside of Upwork, is none of their business ;)
p.s. Here's one of the playlists on working on Upwork, totally recommend binge-watching it 😉: czcams.com/video/53jLzfBIlVI/video.html&ab_channel=OlgaPogozheva
@@OlgaPogozheva yes, I noticed in one of your videos you had a post in PST timezone, that's my timezone, lol. So if you register as an agency, and submit a job bid, will the perspective client see everyone who is a member of your agency? P.S. What type of work do you do on upwork?
@@alexw5263 1. I always post in several time zones, based on the audience I have here. ;) 2. No, the client won't see everyone unless they specifically go and check out your agency's page. They won't bother, typically, and why should they?
3. Data engineering & NLP
And what do you do?
Hello mem.i m from bangladesh.like this video
Nice to meet you. Are you in IT?
No I have not come yet. I am thinking to come. I need your help
I am a freelancer, and my boss wants me to join the agency (his own agency account). My own business is very different from the work I am supposed to do under agency. Now. the issue is, Upwork doesnt allow more than one account. How can I pursue my business on the side and make a separate profile which he plans to connect to the agency account?
Actually, you can be both a member of one agency and create a separate one. Upwork doesn’t allow you to create 2 agencies (you can only create one), but you can be associated with few agencies and create your own. The thing is, your boss might probably see it if he/she checks your profile. And you probably don’t want that?
@@OlgaPogozheva I see. But, can I make my personal work profile private from him?Also, can you recommend me some video tutorial where I can create another profile on upwork for my boos, which he would connect to the agency account of the company?
@@gracedreamy2925 1) So he doesn't have neither his own account, nor the agency yet? Or did someone already create an agency for him? or will YOU have to do all of this?
Because I've been there, and honestly it's quite a messy business. You'll need all sorts of documents from him (to prove his home address etc), and the access to his email (or you will have to create a separate email for him). Then he'll have to prove his profile to Upwork by Upwork staff by video call (and you'll have to transfer access rights to him for that period). Also, if you create the agency for him, you will no longer be able to create your own under the same upwork account.
2) and I would strongly recommend you to not create multiple accounts (even from multiple emails), because at some point, you'll get suspended. Been there.
3) If your boss is an agency owner, then no, you can't make the profile private from him. You can act as a non-exclusive freelancer, meaning that he cannot influence your rates, and that you can work separately from him, but he will still see it.
@@OlgaPogozheva Thank you so much for taking the time to write this answer. I honestly was so desperate for this information. Even the upwork articles were not that helpful. He is the agency owner and has an amazing profile. He just wants me to join the agency. But, I guess now my work will be visible to him. One more thing, how can I be a non-exclusive worker? Does that option of "connections and permissions" (I guess!) , does that option lie with him (like at his backend), or do I have access to make myself non-exclusive through my side of the upwork account? And also, does that non-exclusivity option appear before or after I've joined the agency, where does it appear? Like do I have to ask my boss to make me non-exclusive?
@@gracedreamy2925 only the agency owner can make you either exclusive (only work through agency) or non-exclusive freelancer (work both individually and as part of the agency). You can ask your boss to send you the non-exclusive invite because you want to preserve your profile to yourself, too. This is honest and should not arise any misunderstandings.
p.s. You can try to set your profile's visibility to "private" (in your Settings), but I wouldn't recommend that, if you want to attract new clients on side.
All in all, I wouldn't worry that much about it. I don't think your boss will check your profile that often. And he won't be notified automatically if you take on a side project, so don't worry.
Where we can find you ? If I have a project ? Are you in Fiverr ?
Just like the video title suggests? We’re on Upwork 😉
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How to start freelance career
Be more specific, please. There's already a lot of information on my channel, on how to start. Please check my playlists
Im a sniper in PUBG
Haven’t heard about it previously 🙂 but then I’m an old timer who only remembers counter-strike
@@OlgaPogozheva Ha Ha Pubg The Most Loved game of India
We still play even it's banned by government
definetely agency . Hire bunch of cheap workers. and grab your money for free. want more - hire more. no regrets no morale. prey should thrill. etc
Whoa, that's quite an attitude. I truly don't think this is the right way to approach work or life, for that matter. If you treat your employees like "prey", what kind of a business are you going to build? Let me answer for you: sad. Sad business. You surely should make your profit, but not because you're a predator and your people are prey. What a way to think! You accept responsibility along with hiring people. Yes, you make a profit, but because of the service and benefits you, too, provide to both the team and the customer. It is an honest and win-win business, if you treat ALL parties with the respect and adequacy they deserve. I mean... it's not about regrets, morale, prey... Goodness, I don't even know where to start, this is all so wrong.
Upwork was the best now became literally a scam
Good ol’times when it was oDesk? 😉