Robert Kraft reveals Belichick's reason for benching Malcolm Butler in Super Bowl LII was "personal"
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- čas přidán 18. 03. 2024
- Ted Johnson joins Mike Felger and Michael Holley on Boston Sports Tonight to break down episodes 9 and 10 of "The Dynasty: New England Patriots" on Apple TV Plus and Robert Kraft's revelation that it was told to him that Bill Belichick's reason for benching Malcolm Butler in Super Bowl LII vs. the Eagles was not football related and was due to a personal issue between the two.
Fact is Super Bowl game day is emphatically not the day to teach someone on your roster a lesson. Nobody is gonna remember why you were mad, they just temember that you cost them a championship
There is zero evidence that Malcolm Butler would have stopped the Eagles. He was NOT a shut down corner.
@@Tsepete no argument there. But with Brady having a record breaking game and Foles making it a shoot out, disrupting one drive, stopping a 6, having the veteran knowledge, situational awareness etc mightve been enough. Ypu are 100 percemt correct that there is zero evidence Butler himself wouldve stopped the Eagles. But it is reasonable to think the Eagles might have thought twice about running the Foles-eligible TD play had NE secondary been at full strength. All I'm saying is that this one time BB chose an option that did not put them in a better mathematical position to win
@@user-on9dq1vk1bagree, the game was a shootout. Not having a starting corner was important. A few pass breakups or an interception could’ve changed the outcome.
It goes beyond just taking out the guy who’d played 97% of starts - it was that it was not only unexplained but inexplicable, that it was disruptive to the defense and the entire team, that the defense was clearly not up to the task of containing a backup journeyman QB without him.
@@joemagarac405 The following year, defense was the main reason why they won vs the Rams in the Superbowl. He made up for it for all you spoiled fans who spend more time complaining about the negative stuff that he did when it is outweighed by the positive.
No other fan base experienced the joy of going to 50% of the Superbowls in 18 seasons. And if you say it all Brady, then we have to ask who had the final say when Brady was picked? Who made the decision to make Brady the starter when most fans and Kraft had doubts? Who came up with the game plan to slow down the greatest show on turf? Who made the final decision to bring in all the other players that contributed from Seymour to Gronk?
The good outweighs the bad so much it's absurd that this is what spoiled Pats fans choose to focus on.
Having Ted Johnson on to talk about Belichick. Priceless. You all should have invited Asante
Samuel too. 😂
True😂🤣
Welker too- every Belichick hater
@@erickwoodward4504 Welker went to the broncos cause he felt extra-salty over Julian Edelman taking his job. Edelman was elite while Welker was a okay receiver. Edelman was the true super bowl 51 MVP not crybaby Brady.
No he didn't you dont know shit. He went over there because of the drop in the super bowl that would've won the game against the Giants the 2nd time. He was on Belichick's shit list after that go back and watch and listen@@kilotre9842
Love Asante I had to do a project on a Patriots player in middle school and Asante Samuel was a new player so after that I watched out for him he got so great!
What was especially cruel was not deactivating Butler, but dressing him and not playing him.
If Belichick ever lost the team, I point to that.
Bill did that to hide from Kraft what he was up to. Kraft would have forced Belichick to play Butler if he knew he was to benched.
Even wilder, he actually played him 1 snap on special teams in super bowl 52 confusing the matter further in all honesty
Also what no one ever mentions is he benched Wes Welker to start the game in the 2010 Playoff game vs Jets they lost because he made a foot joke about Rex to the media that was Brady’s No1 WR safety net and you bench him?
His defense won the Superbowl the following year so get over it already. Ungrateful spoiled fans.
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@5:12 Bro, They would have never won that 2018 AFC championship game against KC without Tom. Tom was legendary in that game!
Brady had 1 TD pass and 2 Ints (and it should have been 3 Ints)
Passer rating was 77.1
Another of Brady's boyfriends embarrassed into silence
Basically 3 straight td drives to end the game kept moving the ball down field converting 3rd downs against a sticky pass defense. It was the patriots defense that couldnt stop anything in the 2nd half and were leaving wide open receivers for mahommes to throw to.@@RK-um9tu
Butler slapped Steve Belichick and told him "get out my face, boy!" Everyone knows this.
I heard it's true.
That's what I believe.
@@arthurmcdermott3312 So if this did happen and is the reason, this in insubordination to a coach which is a football violation and would be 100% justifiable.
@johncarroll792 I don't disagree with you about the insubordination and the need for it to be handled, but do you address at the Superbowl? You see your secondary being lit up and you don't make changes in the second half, then there's an issue with priorities. I'm not saying Butler was the answer, but when you go into battle, start losing and don't use all of the weapons in your arsenal because of pride, then you're the reason you lost. Address the situation off season or next season. I don't know if Butler slapped Steve Belichick but I do believe there was an argument or fight between the two and it was Bill's pride because it involved his son. Which was the reason Butler was benched.
A lie.
It doesn't matter what the reason was. It was th3 SB, u don't sit ur best CB during that game, specially when Foles is the QB that was lighting up ur defense. It is BB's fault, he's the one that benched him
Doubt he was the best corner, I think BB decided he'd had enough of Malcolm getting torched...maybe he should have tried him in second half, similar to how Malcolm came in at the end of the Seattle Superbowl to catch lightning in a bottle...but really, it came down to a strip sack of Brady and all anyone wants to talk about is the poor performing benching of superbowl hero Malcom, who was performing poorly all year in a contract year. I bet it came down to that...and none of the Amendola whining matters. BB is just that cold, calculating dude. Maybe he should have benched Asante Samuel for a taller corner just before he missed a pick against the Giants too? LOL
The benching wasn't football-related
Best cb, you do know Stephen Gilmore was on the team right? Did you see malcolm get bullied iim the run game? Philly was a power run team. And by the way the patriots lost because Brady got stripped sacked not because butler was benched
@@shawngreene1225 thing is, you don't know that. If Butler played, who knows what happens if you play your best. BB didn't do that.
@@shawngreene1225stop making excuses for a stupid call. Run game or not, Butler should've been on the field. And, it was plainly stated he was benched for something other than football. So no, your point holds no weight.
Felger belongs on the View. He's such a ....
He’s such a ……Girl
Agree totally
Felger & Mazz r foolish!!!😊
Malcom Butler knows the reason. Maybe he should finally talk about it!
Ted Johnson attacking BB? Big shock there. Must be "personal" issue with Ted!
good BILL blows biggest loser ever born ...cost us a ring cause of his ego pushed out Brady fck BILL
Butler & one of BB'S kids had a fight shoving match
So, we still don't know why.
Nope still don't know smh
I heard Butler either punched Bill's kid or told him the only reason he was a coach was because of Bill.
That would do it.
@walkerpercy8702
Bill never threw anyone under the bus to the media. Too bad the owner doesn't feel that way.
Shut the f up he was a fucking hypocrite that ruined a super bowl for personal reasons. You are what's wrong with this planet people like you
After 20 years of being on top, all the Boston media and some fans want to focus on is the negative stuff that Bill did. As a Pats fan I care about the good. Every team has drama and it's sad that someone like Robert Kraft would feed into it.
Not a Pats Fan but I couldn't agree more. You would think they would celebrate a 6 time SB winning coach not berate and trash talk him after they basically fire him...
Malcolm Butler was getting scorched all year over top. They played Eric Rowe who was much taller as they knew the Eagles were gonna throw over Butler's head...
You can't trash Bill after 6 SB's. Like think about that for a second. 6 SB's over a 23yr span. Every franchise would take that dream now.
A lot of the guys on that team hadn’t won a Super Bowl and played their whole life for that moment. And Belichick scewed them all for something personal. I was all about BB until that game. But he’s one nasty mfer for throwing that game.
Yeah, well I'm a Patriots fan and I always thought Belicheck was a SCOUNDREL! But everything has come FULL CIRCLE now and thats why he's NOT in the league anymore!
@@aradcliffe585Belichick is essentially the Jerry Krause of the NFL. I find it weird that some people can’t stomach criticizing bill for the obvious fuck ups he had in the second half of the run. Maybe it’s because it was so recent? Idk. He wanted brady gone in 2014 lol. Doesn’t change his status as an all time great coach to point out that he made a few mistakes along the way in my opinion.
@@vt3649 You act like Malcolm Butler was a shut down corner. He wasn't.
Montana received similar treatment at the end in SF…You could even say worse treatment
True he was actually benched at one point during the 88 season
@@holidayeveryday550 it was a playoff game and they were getting smoked, anthony carter went for 200 yards and the vikings trounced them
@devonwhite2443 I am referring to mid 1988 season. Walsh's last year as coach. He benched Montana saying he had injuries. Montana said he was fine to play. People close to the team say he wanted to go with Young. They blew a big lead he goes back to Montana the following week, they get on a roll and go on to win the championship. Then repeated In 89. Steve Young said had they not blown that game he would have been the starter going forward
I love it! Bob Kraft, the owner of team, the one who signs the checks, and the owner of many other successful companies knows nothing. He's just a fan sitting in section 203! Good job, Bob!!! You're not at fault for anything. It's always someone else's fault. HIs way of saving face every time. Blame it on other people!
Agree 100%. Belichick led the team to 9 Super Bowls & 6 rings in 19 seasons. Other owners have faded into irrelevance after their teams stop winning rings & become desperate to regain media coverage in that reverent tone. This “documentary” is Kraft’s attempt as he fades into being viewed by public as a more disciplined Robert Irsay.
IMHO this new coach cares too much about being nicer to media than Bill was & what media says about him to maintain the laser focus on all the things that the most successful coaches do to win championships. My prediction is that there will be drama & he will not win a Super Bowl.
Thank you Michael H...
If they all have signed NDA's and can't talk about it, then it must be really bad. I heard Malcolm was photographed with Steve Belichick's wife at a party when the players were told not to be out and that's why he was benched. I think it's a lot more than that like he slept with her or something.
My question is who got everyone to sign NDA? My guess is the guy talking sh’t about BB and dropping little hints about it being a personal issue.
From what I understand Malcolm Butler got into a physical fight with Steve Belichick.
As per usual, Felger wants to jump to conclusions, Ted Johnson wants to bash Bill and further validate his own personal feelings, and Michael Holley wants to take a step back and ask the responsible, follow-up questions that should have been and should be asked.
Here we have a Belicheck APOLOGIST! The mere fact that there's never been an explanation for the Butler benching after all these years, is very TELLING! I didn't need Kraft to tell me it was personal, that has always been my suspicion! Belicheck has always been a VINDICTIVE SCOUNDREL!
Felgers face looks like the back side of my work boots.
Felger is a tool
@@geraldineyarborough9496 I am far, far from a Belichick apologist. But I am not far from a Felger and Ted Johnson hater lol... My point still stands. We still don't really know why Butler was benched, other than it shouldn't have happened and was a terrible decision on Belichick's part, whatever the reason may have been. Jumping to conclusions is stupid based on what Kraft said, and there should've been follow-up questions to what he said.
@@700Ezalb Yeah, whatever makes u feel good!
Belichick had put personal politics over the success of the team, thus his team got burned and lost without Butler playing in the biggest game of the year.
And belichek contradicted himself with his “do what’s best for team”. Welp BILL, you sure fucked that up
Butler must have done something in very poor taste to make it personal to Bill. The character of the player matters. It can't be win at all costs.
Not a Pats Fan but the Belichick bashing is getting old. You would think they would celebrate a 6 time SB winning coach, not berate and trash talk him after they basically fire him...
Malcolm Butler was getting scorched all year over top. They played Eric Rowe who was much taller as they knew the Eagles were gonna throw over Butler's head...
You can't trash Bill after 6 SB's. Like think about that for a second. 6 SB's over a 23yr span. Every franchise would take that deal so fast they're heads would spin...
Foles first T.D. was a pass over Rowe's head to Jeffrey
we were so so so so spoiled for 20 years
Agree 100%. Belichick led the team to 9 Super Bowls & 6 rings in 19 seasons. Other owners have faded into irrelevance after their teams stop winning rings & become desperate to regain media coverage in that reverent tone. This “documentary” is Kraft’s attempt as he fades into being viewed by public as a more disciplined Robert Irsay.
IMHO this new coach cares too much about being nicer to media than Bill was & what media says about him to maintain the laser focus on all the things that the most successful coaches do to win championships. My prediction is that there will be drama & he will not win a Super Bowl.
BS...in the biggest game you bench a CB who proved an ability to make plays was reprehensible. They win that game, and for that, F@$K Belicheck and good riddance.
@@user-ov9vt4wx3o so 5' 9" Butler is a better option than 6' 2" Eric Rowe??? Butler than went to the Titans for big money and then was basically beat out in training camp by a rookie....
I have a friend who graduated with Felger from BU. He has been working in local sports and working national sports free lance. The story is always been there but NO ONE will report it. Here is the story he told me.
Butler was ranked 12 out of 64 DBs after his first year as a starter. The Eagles Super Bowl he finished ranked 48 out of 64 DBs. Butler's maturity issue that prevented him from being drafted arose this season. His success went to his head. Butler kept complaining about his contract. The week of the Super Bowl Butler threatened he may not give his best unless he got extended.
That is WHY he got benched. His play went downhill and he was putting himself before the team.
For the player,head coach and owner not to speak about what it was....must've been really really bad. Maybe personal life situation idk but hopefully 1 day we find out.
heard butler fucked his sons girl so he took it personal and hurt the team ..fck BILL
Well he did practice all week as a starter and played on a special teams play in that SB so couldn't have been that bad. Maybe butler didn't raise his hand before asking a question or something horrible like that.
Butler did speak he said he had no idea why. Owner did speak he said it was a personal issue.
Robert Kraft is a backstabber
HYPOCRITES: They attack Belicheck for wanting to keep playing Hernandez and not disciplining him. Then when does discipline a player they jump on him for that."
Belichick ruined a potential three-peat, now the Chiefs are likely going to do it next season.
Ruined? How about all his other accomplishments? You don't even have a shot at a 3 peat if Bill hadn't made the decision to make Brady a starter in 2001. Fans, media, and Kraft himself questioned that move back then. Now everyone wants to act like Bill was just tagging alone when he was the one building the teams and adding the pieces, including the most important one. Brady.
Stop disrespecting the hoodie.
You sound stupid
@@Tsepeteit’s possible to give someone credit for one thing, while simultaneously criticizing them for another. Shocking, I know 😂
Likely going to do it? They will and will have the NFL's help in doing so. Goodell et al want the Patriots and Brady ERASED.
@@doug6921 Pats homers are really having trouble with a lot of things with this series. Bill had a lot of this shit coming and now it's out there. The bad with the good.
Michael Holley's right... did Bill say to Kraft, "Hey, Look, Malcom pissed me off so I threw away a Superbowl- hope you're ok with this Bob... on to Cincinnati."
Lmao
Kraft had everything to do with trading Garapolo. That is the main reason Brady stayed and won those titles.
What question not being asked was why Kraft (the owner for God's sake) didn't react at the beginning of the game or certainly at half time, and communicate either by cell, courier, or in person to Belichick why the hell Butler was being benched?
Not a Pats fan, so no skin in this argument, but arguing that Butler should have started is like saying David Tyree should have been the primary target for the Giants, who was cut the next season BTW. Butler made an incredible play. That's it. He was not a shutdown corner.
Malcolm wasn’t a shutdown corner BUT he was the Patriots BEST corner.
Pats fans knew then that BB allowed his ego to keep Butler out and cost them the SB win.
Bro if they all signed NDA’s then that says everything. Butler must of been benched for a legit reason. No way in hell butler signs a NDA if he wasn’t in the wrong & he was benched for basically no reason. He gets nothing outta signing it if he wasn’t at fault.
Personally disrespecting the head coach or any of the head coaches via violence, is football related.
Even if Butler played, it wasn’t a guarantee that the Pats were gonna win. Plain and simple. Pats defense had plenty of chances to get off the field without Butler.
In a super bowl game that Tom Brady passes for more than 500 yards, there should be no excuse for losing. That loss was on Bill Belichick.
Felger should be on The View with the other freaks. Ted is sooo bitter. Holley rises above emotion using logic not whiny-ass bullshit.
Clickbait. Kraft didn’t give any details.
Well, speaking of personal, I think, between what happened the past few years, this past season in particular (including Bill's endless leaks about "meddling"), and now this series, I think RKK is PISSED at Bill and has been for a while. It's personal there now too.
I appreciate how complex the dynamics are, and actually getting to see into the human side. We know the football side, and we mostly guess at the human side, but they influence each other in super
complex ways, and over time relationships corrode if people aren’t on the same page. There was a point when Brady could’ve retired and probably saved his marriage, and he decided instead to keep playing forever to satisfy his ego and competitive drive. Was a point when Belichick probably should’ve retired and handed the reins to Josh McDaniel, Jerod Mayo, etc. but he had to satisfy his ego and competitive drive for whatever reason. The whole thing reminds me of the saying, don’t meet your heroes. But as a human, it is fascinating, and as a fan that 20 year run was phenomenal.
Keep on sharing the Wisdom 🙏
Kraft is protecting his own ass and throwing Bill under the bus for everything to make himself look better.
Uhh Bill was an arrogant SOB
Agree 100%. Belichick led the team to 9 Super Bowls & 6 rings in 19 seasons. Other owners have faded into irrelevance after their teams stop winning rings & become desperate to regain media coverage in that reverent tone. Instead of being grateful, this “documentary” is Kraft’s attempt as he fades into being viewed by the public as a more disciplined Jim Irsay. It should’ve celebrated Brady AND Belichick. It’s like it goes back to Art Modell’s view that Belichick was just a difficult jerk who got lucky to stumble into Tom Brady.
IMHO this new coach cares too much about being nicer to media than Bill was & what media says about him to maintain the laser focus on all the things that the most successful coaches do to win championships. My prediction is that there will be drama & he will not win a Super Bowl.
As a patriot fan since 1995 and will be for the rest of my life. Belichick didn't win shit, Tom Brady was the X factor. Belichick's record before brady and after Brady speaks for itself.
Exactly
@@XxIceQxXguy, give it a rest. Belichick drafted and developed Brady.
It is just Kraft trying to make himself look good now.
Pretty obvious that Malcom thought it was warranted or he would be saying why!
From what I’ve read, Butler got into a heated argument with Patricia. Belichick backed his play and made a serious error in judgment. Keeping him out the 1st quarter message sent. Beyond that? Neolithic incompetence. Never liked Patricia because of his attitude and taking credit he did not earn. So Kraft is accurate here but he should have come down to the locker room. It’s the Super Bowl!! Point blank: Why is he on the bench?!! He should have got to the bottom of it. Kraft I’m sure regrets that.
I understand Brady not wanting to criticize Belichick. Nothing good comes from that. You don’t want to diminish the overall. Let the historians judge it.
First quarter? He didn’t play the whole game
incorrect ...butler fucked his sons girl so he got benched.. FCK BILL he cost us a ring
What truly confuses me more is that he actually did play in the game, 1 snap on special teams! A lot of people never even realized that he played that one snap too. So it's not like he was even fully benched. The whole thing threw off the chemistry of the team before the game, when Malcom is on the sidelines crying before the game starts. The whole thing still boggles the mind when I think about it
The Malcolm Butler benching was the end of "In Bill we trust" for me. I hated him from that point forward. When he left I was a very happy Patriots fan.
I got to say there are many I know just like yourself that have left since that time and all seem to feel the same way you do. Good point
Well they did go right back to the Super Bowl again the next year and win
@@mattgiacoppo3365 I haven't left. In fact I feel renewed as a Patriots fan. The future is unknown but exciting with a lot of anticipation for '24.
@@pete6705 I never said he started to sucked as a coach. I just said I lost faith in his B.S. line "what's best for the team". I attribute that Rams Superbowl win to Tom Brady with that huge, angry chip on his shoulder and a stellar defense.
Me too
Even if Malcom was in the game, they would have torched another Pats cornerback as they did all game...
I watched all but the last one and I think the entire series was an attack against Bill which I don't think he deserved.
There was one interview with Belichek in which he answered the Malcolm question. In previous games with the eagles, Malcolm struggled and they showed video of that. So Bill played someone else who was closer in size to the receiver Malcolm would have had to cover. Could Malcolm have changed the game had he played? Maybe he could have or maybe they would have lost by a larger margin. We will never know......
It seems that everyone wants to villainize Bill for putting together the best team he could with what he had to work with, against a very good opponent!
I heard Butler got in a fight with Patricia then it was Steve then back to Patricia who
Knows what happened but this single decision left a bad taste in players mouths regarding this team during their best Era
Guess who didn't do their job?? Bill..
You do have to keep in mind that Bob probably had people in his ear trying to take power away from Bill
Bill blew that superbowl. For his ego. Tom played incredible passing for over 500 yards. Defense was the issue and Eric Rowe just couldn't handle it. Malcolm would have made the difference. Good riddance Bill. His career is over
Bill doesn’t care personally unless it relates to his family. Steve was the safeties coach and something more than likely happened between Steve and Malcolm. Bill should go to his grave being haunted by this.
Personal doesn't matter?
BS. WHAT IF HE MADE A COMMENT ABOUT HIS WIFE, CHILDREN,.....
The one thing that will get a player benched is if he dismisses the coach to the point where he tries to make the coach look bad and makes it more about him than the team. A coach will go ahead and put the game at risk to make a point to the other 51 men on the roster. I’m the head coach. I’m in charge. Stay in your lane and do your job.
I wish Butler came out with why!
Stop digging into latrine , six SB enough
Thought Malcolm got into it with Bills son at practice was reason .
Butler himself didn't know why he was benched. That would seem to suggest it was NOT personal. If it was personal I think Butler would know first of all.
He signed an nda
What in all likelihood transpired would’ve been a career killer for who bill was protecting
Butler knew exactly why he was benched!! Geez!
Glad CZcams sent me this video. The Butler benching really bothered me. And I think Deon Branch was benched too. Unless a professional athlete commits a violent crime, don’t bench your key players in a superbowl.
And that's why I think Bill can't get a coaching job now.
I understand discipline is important. But lighten up. Be a little human. Don't be so rigid. Don't go so much by the book. Geez.
Belichick is easily one of the most unlikeable characters in U.S. sports history, and outside of New England almost universally despised.
Malcolm Butler plays CB! Philly attacked the middle of the defense in that SB! It's just Pat's fans needing an excuse...and the media fueling the stupidity.
Not only the benching that was absolutely a terrible decision, but to dress him and waste a roster spot in the most important game where the defense got torn apart....unforgivable!
I heard that M. Butler either pushed or disrespected Steve Belicheck............
Malcolm got into an argument with Bills son who was the safeties coach at the time was told that by 2 different people one of them knows Patrick Chung very well
Bill Belichick had completely soured on Butler when he turned down a contract extension in the '16 offseason. Due to an illness, Butler arrived solo in Minneapolis a day after the rest of the Patriots. On Thursday night he entered the team hotel minutes before curfew after attending a concert with Floyd Mayweather. Steven Belichick saw him walk in and away from prying eyes confronted Malcolm, questioning his level of commitment. The 2 men argued, w/ a furious Butler calling Steven "Daddy's Boy" among other things. After finding out about this incident Bill said nothing, but would use it as ammunition to devastate the former Super Bowl hero, regardless of what was best for his team.
That, in addition to Brady’s dropped pass sealed that loss
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Malcolm Butler disrespected Belichick's son/coach.
did it ever dawn on you all that "personal" could mean that the young man was going thru a tough personal situation & the HFC made the decision he would not be able to 100% focus on the game. Is that a possibility? Btw, that's a rhetorical question.
I guess context is too much for you to understand. What part of that quote says that it could be Butler going through tough time?
So we still dont know why
Bill's ego was his own downfall. 🤦🏽
Seeing how Bill was not hired by any teams, chances are the owners KNOW what happened and do not want that type of control to occur with their team, ESPECIALLY if they make it to the Super Bowl.
What is the actual "personal" reason?
malcolm butler prevents one of those touchdowns against the eagles instead he let logan ryan start and we get chewed
Malcolm Butler was torched by long balls all season long that year. He also wouldn't have been covering Clemment coming out of the back field or Ertz when he spread out. There's so much focus on Butler, but, he likely wouldn't have been that impact player people thought he was, and his play after this point shows that.
@@petermanson3475 he definately prevents at least one major play in that game
@user-fe7py7ws1c No, you just don't have a clue what you're talking about.
First off, it was Rowe that started over Butler, not Logan Ryan. Logan Ryan was also better than Butler at that point... but left and was playing in Tennesee at the time. Butler joined Ryan in Tennesee the next season, where he was heavily outplayed by him.
As far as the Touchdowns you think Butler was going to prevent, which ones would they be?
- the 21 yard TD run by Legarette Blount? How you figure he was going to do that?
- The TD catch by Nick Foles, on the trick play? No, Foles wasn't the responsibility of the corners on the play, one of the linebackers was supposed to follow him out there.
- The TD reception by RB Cory Clement? No, it was LB Elandon Roberts & Safety Patrick Chung on the coverage for that play.
- The TD catch by TE Zac Ertz? No, it was Devin McCourty covering him on that play and he slipped.
The only TD that comes into question was the TD catch by Alshon Jeffery, and he blanketed by Eric Rowe on the play, he just went up and high pointed the ball, and brought down an amazing catch... Alshon Jeffery at 6'5", outlept 6'1" Eric Rowe for the ball. Somehow, you think 2 inch shorter Malcolm Butler, who was beat by taller WRs all season, and was beat by Graham for that catch in 2014, was going to outleap a much taller Alshon Jeffery to the ball? Smh...
Nah, Malcolm Butler was appropriately benched for this game. He may have been help as a better nickel backup to limit some yards, but he wasn't stopping the offensive scoring machine that both teams were in that game, and Philadelphia was all season long, regardless of QB.
Malcolm Butler mess with Bellichick wife 😆😆😆😆
Well that ends the idea that Butler was benched because he was not playing well.
Adam Butler recently said on Maxx Crosby's podcast.That If you had a personal foul during the game that would end up getting you a fine from the league Bill would also fine you too. He said everyone played very scared there.
Of course Kraft demanded that BB tell him. Who could believe different.
What has Malcolm Butler said on the matter? Did he sign an NDA too?
Why is this relevant 7 or 8 years later! Also, from what kraft said, he doesnt know the real reason beyond it was hearsay and no one really knows unless bill told them and I highly doubt he did so this is women gossip and not facts!
Bill didnt have a relationship with Brady much less butler for things to become personal. How would that make any sense that it became personal? personal over what? if he talk back to bill then it wasnt personal but being disciplined for insubordination and if its something bill wanted him to do but he didnt that would also be insubordination !
So, for things to have a personal effect, you first have to have a personal relationship!
I hate all this. Kraft trashing bellicheck without bill having his side told. The dynasty just villified bellicheck.
Rumor is Malcolm had a fight with bills son and Bill told him to keep his mouth closed so he can still get paid next year when he was traded
No joke, well before any of this was even a story, I was told by a bartender in NYC last summer who served someone within the Patriots organization who disclosed to him that Butler was benched because he sleeping with Linda Holiday. Despite the bartender's spoken conviction, I thought it was preposterous and absolutely did not believe it. However, now after hearing Kraft's statement, I'm not entirely sure what to believe.
This was intentional Sabotaged by Belichick as payback against TB12 and Robert Kraft for trading Jimmy G.
Bill's ego got in the way. There was no rift between Butler and Matt P.
This was so sinister and personal on the part of Bill. He made sure that TB12 would not win that superbowl. He wanted Brady to go that bad, but Kraft overruled him, and Jimmy G was traded.
There is no explanation for sitting one of your best players on defense in a game of that magnitude. None.
Kraft should have called down to the field and overruled the benching of Butler also. He had legitimate power to do so.
All due respect
Asante dropped pick
Play before Helmet Catch
Cost Pats a SB
KC will not repeat in spite of the hype
Only episode I watched - Thanks Belicheat!! FLY EAGLES FLY
Of all the blame thrown at Bill, this is the primary one that I feel is deserved.
Otherwise I think he's being treated VERY disrespectfully.
And this STILL didn't say WHY
Bill had a bigger opinion of himself that warranted given his record prior to coming the New England and prior to Brady.
I'll forever say pats should have won that game. Can't tell me a defense especially the secondary weren't in their heads in that game after the 2nd and 3rd time of the defense being on the field and In the huddle thinking "wheres Malcom ?" Players like mccourty and harmon (safeties) knew they could trust Malcom and his capabilities after playing every game together for 3 seasons. Players always say how close locker rooms are of championship teams so seeing one of your better players on the sidelines crying as nick fricken foles is looking like Payton Manning against defensive "genius" Belichick. That moved messed with the whole team that game. And whatever butler might have done couldn't of been that bad cause Belichick brought him back 2-3 years later.
It's funny Belichick expected his players to keep their mouth shut and their personal stuff out of the game and out of the media...
So to know that something personal is the reason why you waited until minutes before the super bowl to tell your starting CB that he won't be playing. Instead of at least being merciful and deactivating him. But no he not only benched him but he made him watch too...
To me it gives traction to the whole Steve Belichick's wife and Butler situation and whatever happened there. Now it's probably the one that makes the most sense to me.
But he brought him back
Not when it mattered!
@Sam-jx8tv I'm getting angry just thinking about it. All they needed was one stop in that super bowl. Philly scored every time they had the ball. Malcolm could have definitely got them one. BB blew that one
Yeah Bill brought Butler back and gave him that nice retirement contract with an NDA so that he doesn't talk about the benching. Even to today, Butler still not talking about it. He was going to put it in his book until BB gave him the contract and the book gloss over the benching.
I don't agree Bill brought Jimmy g in as brady's replacement WHEN he retired or couldn't get it done and also part of the future of the team. Brady and kraft are the only ones to blame for the mess now. Build the team around Jimmy g you have 15 more years of competitive football. Kraft and Brady ruined that .
Not a Pats fan, but I respect their run..
That being said from 07’ - 19’ their HC did more to hurt them then help them win & the blow leads by HIS defense in big games shows it..
Brady was the most important piece over the last 12 years than BB was & that is just a fact..
Did you watch that Superbowl game? Nick Foles was torching anyone who played in that secondary!!! The reason Malcom was benched was Gilmore got a huge contract early in the year and Malcom didn't, Bill was afraid Malcom would help throw the game in revenge. Malcom deserved to be benched based on how he practiced and the way he was acting off the field. F$%^ Malcom Butler...he deserved to be benched!!!!
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Never heard a good enough reason for benching a guy who played 99% of your defensive snaps to GET you to the Super Bowl. Malcolm earned the right to play.
Mr Kraft calls it personal, but they brought Malcolm back years later for another try. Seems like no grudges were held.
We've got a better chance at finding out who Carly Simon wrote the song "You're So Vein" about.
Fire Kraft
These guys remind me of fans on a blog site commenting. They obviously don't know anything.
Here's the one thing that you guys should have touched on that you didn't touch on. You tap danced around it. They said that Robert Kraft demanded that Bill Belichik trade Jimmy Garoppolo which he did to show confidence in Tom. Tom didn't have a contract going into 2020 so he could do whatever the heck he wanted at that point.He was a free agent. There's no way you can expect me to believe that Belichik thought or said that it was a good decision for Tom to leave because Belichik didn't have a legitimate quarterback on the roster. He had Stidham and Hoyer. He brought in Cam Newton late because nobody wanted him. Of course he expected Tom to come back on another shitty one year deal. He gambled and lost. The only way he would want Tommy to leave with what he had on the roster at QB at the time is if he wanted to stick it to his owner as payback for meddling with the Garoppolo situation. Robert Kraft is a businessman. If you weren't gonna have Tommy under contract for 2020 he should have been traded by the deadline in the last year of his deal for assets. How did you let him walk for free???!!!! Huge mistake. Who's fault is that?!!!!
Of course it had to be personal, since it obviously wasn’t football related ! But what EXACTLY was it?? I suppose we’ll never know