SABOTAGE❓PETTY❔SALTY⁉️ Weighing in on the Bill Belichick-Robert Kraft report | First Take
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- SABOTAGE ❓ PETTY ❔ SALTY ⁉️ Weighing in on the Bill Belichick-Robert Kraft report | First Take
On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, EJ Manuel, Kimberley Martin, Mina Kimes and Damien Woody join Molly Qerim to discuss quarterbacks being mishandled, along with the Bill Belichick-Robert Kraft relationship.
0:00 Mismanaging QBs
6:08 Bill Belichick article
9:52 Stephen A.'s thoughts on the story
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Fire whoever titled this video
Kimberly
@@nickyp9540 😂 that was petty
no spelling or grammar issues. title actually relates to the content. have you read more than 10 vid titles on yt? your bar is set way too high for yt.
They weighed in on the Belichick Kraft report. Seemed to be titled well to me.
💯
Shoutout to EJ Manuel!
Dope to see him on TV
Facts. Haven’t seen him since Buffalo days
@@chrshrprs he’s on the ACC network.
He sucked move on, whiny black qbs
@@JJdeluxeCSU get off your period. Why you mad?
More Mina less Kimberly
no...Mina is a disney crony..K Mart has sand
@@brentinnes5151they're all croneys lol their entire job pattern is to move up the ladder while taking each other down. Look at Malika Andrews
People just be saying shyt @@brentinnes5151
I'm with Stephen A about running backs being devalued.
EJ Manuel needs to do this more often
Can’t stand Kimberly
After Max left, you can tell Steven A has complete control of the show. He doesn’t invite back people that will actually debate him. He treats first take comedy sports show
You would hit it 😂
I can't stand her either....it's ALWAYS a "black problem" when it comes to her narratives lol. Notice how she only brought up Geno Smith smh
shes ok man
She’s horrible. Her & Molly make this a really hard watch
SAS hair receding by the minute!
😂
Come on, he's just rockin' the George Jefferson look.
Lame it's not gotten worse get off of being corny
@@treasureent.4218does he pay you to defend his hairline or you just volunteering? 😂
@brianbadonde9251 I just didn't think it was funny be more original
This is so true every QB can't start right away.
"Everyone is under the gun in the nfl" Everyone but the owners, and it's not hard to tell which ones own the team just for the money and which ones couldn't care less about W/L
lol EJ Manuel is one of the last guys I’d expect to see on first take
More suited for a show called Last Take.
The man is here more so cuz he's handsome than his public-speaking skills.
All those organizations are listening to the Media and doing things the wrong way. When the Quarterbacks gets drafted high we start hearing put them under center, look at the Justin Field situation now in Pittsburgh, he should sit this year and watch and learn from Russ and come out next year and show what is what. Yet we have the media asking for Quarterbacks to be like Mahomes and if you are not you are a scrub and then turn around and say oh develop, pick one side and stay with it, cause it can’t be both way. Jalen Hurtz was under Carson Wentz, the same way Mahomes was under Smith as Quarterbacks coming in. So yes they should sit and the owners, GM and so on need to stop cause of hype they go paying a bunch of QBs and when they stink it’s their fault, systems plays a factor in finding the right QB to match with the coach. The Media Is to blame for all the Young QBS careers going down hill.
Totally forgot Geno Smith was drafted by the Jets.
According to ESPN 11 of 12 footballs were underinflated...same network...so for Mina (who I respect) using the data point that it was Kraft calling Blank as the reason that Kraft was petty. That data point might not even be factual. So she and Woody need to cool the rhetoric until more facts emerge because....ESPN has a history and it ain't pretty.
Bill should wait for the Buffalo Bills job
grumpy old greedy has been should walk away
He isn't a spring chicken.
Bills are rebuilding lol they don't need a win now head coach who qualifies for AARP
was she hired for her tude? haven't seen someone on espn so off-putting in a long time.
Mina or Kimberly ?
Kimberly wad hired because she's black. Period. End of story
@@daltonmoore233 Mina the 🐐, have some respect
Stephen A has the biggest tude on the show and acts more like a diva than any woman that has came on this show. Let’s be serious now.
So every team has the right system to make every QB great? Oh I didn’t know that. I guess I should be more tough on rookie QB’s since it’s all on them. No coaches or franchise can’t ever be bad enough to make a QB play terrible. It’s the easiest position! Thanks Stephen A for making that clear from a all time athlete
Get her off air
she’s AWFUL it drives me nuts
Immediately
K Mart is right about QBs..Zach Wilson was crushed by Jets, gave him zero chance..blamed him for everything..when the coach was garbage
I'm sorry I find it ridiculously hard to listen to Kimberly Martin after seeing her boyfriend looks like Bill Belichick lmao
Yeah but .......EJ Manuel wasn't any good as a pro. It doesn't matter what team he went to, I'm sorry but it's true. Stephen A is right on this one. How long are these teams supposed to wait? "Glow in the dark" finger nails doesn't know what she's talking about.
I can definitely Stephen A.’s point about how running backs are being devalued year after year by the NFL, but unfortunately, EJ is right when it comes to the NFL mismanaging quarterbacks in general. The problem is a lot of these teams are drafting quarterbacks in the first round with super high expectations and not many of them are able to handle that challenge off the bat. They’re tossed to the wolves within the first couple of games and they eventually become busts within a season or two. Sitting on the bench to learn from the guy who’s already ahead of them is actually a very smart approach so that way they know the offense and are comfortable leading when the time is.
Why is Kimberly always on here? She doesn’t have good takes. There are tons of more talented people that could take that spot.
Right, I’ve yet to ever hear anyone say anything positive about her. Not only are her takes wrong but she’s literally annoying to listen to
Give us 5.
@@Bman32x Mina Kimes
Laura Rutledge
Colleen Wolfe
Charissa Thompson
Erin Andrews
That’s 5 females.
I could list 20 males easily
I honestly can’t stand her
@@Hartmaniac Id have Joy Taylor at #1 but otherwise, solid list.
Why would you leave the qb conversation at peak interest
Whoever approved the Mac Jones draft should be fined
Everytime I hear Kimberly talk I change the channel or video lol
It all started with Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco
Kraft saying dont trust bill is not bad it being honest without sugar coating it like most people would look at the last couple years hes not changing anything and it dont work anymore his style is dead and will only harm any franchise that signs him to be head coach
A good rule would be that QBs can't be drafted until the 2nd round. Less pressure on QBs and more likely they sit for a rookie year. The lady is right.
EJ needs more time on camera and at the desk
Did he just say pat mahomes wasn't a first round pick
Yep the NFL has indeed mismanaged QB’s and this even goes back to Derek Carr and Joey Harrington days when they were thrown to the wolves with no talent or offensive line to help them and in other organizations it still applies there as the coaches and higher ups are so DESPERATE to find the next Brady or Mahomes there’s only one of those players ever!
QB’s do need time to develop and adjust into the playbooks and systems while reading the NFL coverages because it’s different than college. Zach Wilson, Justin Fields, Drew Locke and others come to mind as they were ruined by the organizations that took them!
I agree that some QBs can be put in bad situations but even those players make millions. Let alone 50mil a year for the ones that make it.
Kirk Cousins like 👀 💰 💵 💴
Ej manuel. Give the people facts and uncle timbuck 2 trying to correct him? Cmon man
SAS boys with Kraft. Of course he says this 😂
1:30 lol
It's sports, perform or you're out.
Or if your contract is too much because oops we signed that deal for you but now want to change our minds.
A rumor article comes out not 100% truth to it and look let’s jump on it and dissect something hopefully is true so we ahead of the curve smh
Rumor from accredited journalists who omitted names from the quotes attached for their privacy. They know exactly who told them this information.
A superbowl every 4 years for 24 years.....I'd go with petty.
Kimberly Martin bad lol
You need higher standards homie 😂
you must love old tannenbum
Man fxck whatever Kraft saying, Bill is a fxcking legend. 💯 FOH
we can make all the excuses….if you not puttn in the extra work like a TB then u gon be a victim to the staff whos jobs are always on the hotseat
JUSTIN FIELDS
I heard that!
It’s life and men with real money
Very interesting that Stephen A chose this position with how he treated Max Kellerman
a white man has no chance against the race king
Steven A and Kimberly do not need to talk about football at all
Bro Kimberly gets on my actual nerves
Patriot Way huh😂😂😂
Brady doesn’t win 6 SBs without Belichick and Belichick doesn’t win 6 SBs without Brady. They both needed each other
Correct. But the separation showed Bills system needed a Brady to work who I think is 1 of 1. Just look at his assistants too. They all try to implement the Patriot way every where they go and they are hated by the players. I think most players tolerated working for Bill because they won
I heard the article was fake. Now it's true? Im confused.
Skipped Kim's talking - she has no idea what she is talking about.
Stephen a cooked Kimberly
At some point meritocracy has to be taken into account
When CJ Stroud lights up in year 1 how come I don’t hear about QBs getting mishandled.
These QBs are top 10 picks, meaning your were well recognised as talent and should be expected to perform
No sympathy from me
Your argument is the exception to the general rule tho...
This point needs to be hammered going forward. Retread and re-hire coaches who haven’t had significant or maintained success shouldn’t continue to get opportunities. Unc & Ocho brought up Josh McDaniel & I remember Mr 7-9 record Jeff Fisher just kept getting new opportunities despite torpedoing players’ careers.
Yup, this is why Kimberly shouldn’t even be allowed to talk about a sport she knows little of. You get drafted in the first round for a reason. You are supposed to be the most talented among your peers, ready to hit the ground running. If they have to develop you then they drafted you way too high. You get paid more the higher you get drafted, teams mishandle players all the time but the bears traded back and added talent. Fields still couldn’t throw the bal consistently
@@mattgibney4085You don't know football
Zach Wilson, Drew Locke, Justin Fields...had no chance
Kim speaking I'm out
Crooked & crookeder
This channel is getting kinda click-baity
Stephen A .........New England wasn't ish until Bill got there !!!!!! He went to 9 & won 6 Super Bowls !!!!!! Why are you bring the places he coached at before !!!!!!!! Kraft was wrong !!!!!!!!
Black Woman has blonde hair. Where is the outrage.
Why did she have to talk so much about a clip she knows nothing about? Let EJ speak and wait for something in your wheelhouse because he take was trash. Everyone is under the gun, perform or sit. It's about the money and people pay to see winners lol
Im so sick of yall bringing Woody to talk Patriots talk. HES A JET!! At least bring in Teddy to talk Patriots.
Why is this women on TV. So irritating
Mina isnt that bad
@@brentinnes5151 I am not talking about Kimes.
SAS is a simp!
kim must have that good good behind the scenes because she’s not it for this, I don’t listen because of her, I’m aht
😅 Im not pointing fingers 👉🏾🐾🐻
HEY DAMEIN TOM BRADY WON YALL THEM CHIPS BUDDY ALL THE RINGS YOU GOT COME FROM PLAYING WIT TOM
Tom Brady won 6 Super Bowl. Bill was just on the ride.
Yeah cause bill didn’t draft the players on that top 5 defense
@@neighborhoodtay1845that part. I hate the patriots, but I ain't no fool. Those defenses they had were tough.
You don't know football
Sure thing sherlock😜
It’s not Bill hadn’t previously won 2 super bowls with the Giants…
What a ridiculous conversation to have sympathy for these QBs
It’s a business, you win you stay and you lose you’re out
Simple
Unless it’s Dallas
Ikr@@kgrkid
So no accountability for the coaches or really the front office’s failure to manage their staff & cap salary huh?
@@Bman32x what you saying about being it all on the coaches makes no sense if I bring up Trey Lance (No3) vs. Brock Purdy (last pick in the draft) who both had Shannahan
In the end its not the coach on the field throwing the ball for you, at some point the player has to show their talent on the field
If it was that simple there would be no need for coaching in the game lol. They have a role to play just like the players do in how well the team performs overall
Why does she talk so slow
I can’t stand the women on espn especially kim
Man Kimberly is awful
Ej manuel??? Is this jameis winstons backup
Football
I'm late to this party but IMO, Belichick is a hypocrite. Belichick expects EVERYONE ELSE to be accountable and team driven so, WHY ISN'T HE??!! It's abundantly clear that Belichick is a brilliant Narcissist. He's the best defensive mind the game has ever seen, but he has NO respect for offense and offensive players, and NO respect for the Owner that employs him. He has repeatedly undermined what was best for the team while claiming otherwise. Sitting Malcolm Butler in SB 52 threw ALL Players under the Bus! How was that best for the TEAM?! Players are human and all different. It's a HC duty to manage personalities and CREATE an atmosphere of SUCCESS for overall TEAM benefit! Ruining the starting QB consciously or unconsciously because he isn't "your guy" is Textbook NARCISSISM and absolutely NOT what is “BEST” for the TEAM! Belichick does what is best for his EGO! He may have cut his football teeth under Navy Athletics, and he may THINK he runs a team modeled on the military, but he does NOT! He FORGOT that EVERY serviceman swears an oath and is accountable to a higher authority! The Admiral or General, may not agree with or even respect The President, but it's their duty to their country to follow orders and to NEVER undermine or subvert “The Boss” or the MEN under their command. Belichick should never again be trusted with a HC position. He's borderline megalomaniacal, and a cancer in any position of authority. I would hire him as a DC with very minimal authority only. IMO, players were willing to endure the "Belichick Way" because they believed TB12 ensured a legitimate SB shot year after year. Yes, the defenses were equally important to the repeated success, but The GOAT was the GLUE that held it all together. When the glue dissolved, it unsurprisingly fell apart.
love the show but as soon as I see this woman I lose all interest
this chick really just said QB is the MOST DEPENDENT POSITION…. football is a team sport and EVERY position relies on everyone else
but QB is widely known as the LEAST dependent …. and this chick tries to come on the air saying this nonsense
Who’s more likely to be successful? Mediocre/game manager QB with a great run game, great defense, or a great QB who puts up all the numbers normally but now has no WRs and a defense who can’t stop the run & ranks low defending the pass?
@@Bman32x the former… but you can extrapolate that to ANY position in football.
a take average WR with a ELITE qb, great Oline, run game to force the safeties into box, and defence to get stops… that guy will FAR exceed his talent in that circumstance
or take a average pass rusher. on a team with other great rushers to draw double teams, an elite secondary causing the QB to hold the ball, and a offence that always scores forcing the opposition to constantly throw the ball…. that’ “average” pass rusher is going to far exceed his sack numbers than he would in a typical system.
EVERY position in football is “dependent” to a certain extant. WR is commonly referred to as the most…. but anyone with a brain knows that QB is the LEAST dependent position on the field (AT LEAST the least on offence)
Bruh you ate such a casual IDK how you manage to be this wrong and still post it.
@@zay57 you talking to me clown?
but 99% of time you cant win a SB without a good/great QB..Mahomes just proved that
Anyone who think this is petty needs to get out sports analysis or reporting you are to soft
Stephen A Democrat
Please get rid of Kimberly
Get rid of MnM
Click bait 🫤
was she hired for her tude? haven't seen someone on espn so off-putting in a long time.
Mina is such a greaser....give me the Mart
Fire whoever titled this video