PLAYOFF LESSONS & YZERMAN'S WISHLIST - Winged Wheel Podcast - Mar. 3rd, 2024
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- The Detroit Red Wings stumbled for the first time in a long time, and learned some tough lessons along the way.
Tune in as we open by discussing Detroit's strange loss to the Islanders, including Olli Maatta's offensive performance, Alex Lyon's tough night, Patrick Kane connecting with Dylan Larkin and Jeff Petry to extend his point streak, the refereeing impact, & more (4:20). Next, Hockeytown's rough loss to the league-best Florida Panthers on WWP Day at the LCA, including the physical game between Chiarot, Tkachuk, Larkin, Bennett, & others, Kane and DeBrincat's opportunities, fights & scrums galore, Walman, Fabbri, & others getting weird penalties, the Panthers' relentless playoff-style of hockey, that was too much for Seider, Raymond, or anyone else to break througn, Bobrovsky's flawless performance, & what Derek Lalonde's squad can learn from this (11:25).
Next, a look at the playoff standings, the upcoming schedule, how Detroit can fare against the Lightning, Islanders, Capitals, Devils, and Leafs, and whether to be concerned about the postseason push (32:27). Also, an update on Detroit's goalie pipeline as Trey Augustine has joined Sebastian Cossa's success between the pipes (39:30).
After that, we take a look at Trade Deadline news, including thoughts on the Tanev and Lyubushkin deals, what Yzerman might be shopping for at the deadline, Markstrom, Guentzel, & more (41:25).
Finally, we discuss NHL news including the Elias Petterson contract, Kuznetsov being waived, and Winnipeg's attendance issue (53:55), as well as a recap of Winged Wheel Podcast Day at the LCA in partnership with the Detroit Red Wings (1:01:45) before we take your questions and comments during our Overtime segment (1:06:55) - enjoy!
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Classic view into the difference between a playoff team and a cup contender. We have a way to go to get there but our young guys will learn so much when they make the playoffs this year!
It would be pretty cool when you consider Steve Yzerman was a big part of giving the Joe it's first playoff series way back when and he can also be a big part of giving LCA its first playoff series
Love the podcast. Thank you for your dedication. 👍
THANK YOU - really appreciate the support and kind words!
Interesting about the Bobbleheads, my cousin and I arrived at the Biergarten at 1:30pm. We scored the lids but certainly not the Bobbleheads
This team still greatly struggles with clearing the puck out of their own zone.
Hack and whack panic......... it and it ends up in our net.
I do not know what the mystery is with this......... pinching it along the boards seems more sane.
"You put a good bakery a block from my house, and I'm screwed. I'll be 300lbs within a month." 🤣🤣🤣
In the first 20-30 minutes of the Florida game, Detroit had more offensive zone time than the Panthers. They were controlling the puck, but Florida kept them to the outside and there was very little actual scoring threat, even on the PP. Then Florida got some bounces, they got some chances from down low in the slot, potted a couple goals and were off to the races.
Get rid of the patch. 0-2 and now we lose our Captain.
Still talking about guentzel ?? We’re not signing him to 8 years and we shouldn’t be giving up Berggren for a rental when we have 0 chance at the cup. Enough about guentzel
Lived in Winnipeg my whole life...they were the worst team in the league when they entered the league in 79...but when we lost our team, we were good...but couldn't keep star players( except in the last couple years, desperation moves by mgmt I assume)...and the team left.. the whole city cried " keep our Jets" etc. It was too late. Well, it's happening again. I go to the Wings game every year, and a couple more because I can't afford to many. I also go to Grand Rapids every time they play the Moose. Our city is filled with " T.V." Jets fans.
Sweeping season series over the last two cup winners would be bonkers
I've said it before, it's strategically better to be the dirty team that causes problems the way the games are called
Refs need to be held accountable for their decisions after games.
A thousand times yes
I dozed off for a few minutes during this.. Was there no mention at all of the Jersey Patch Debacle?!
Discussed last episode!
LGRW 🐙
So glad we can have not one, but two goalies to shut up the annoying Minnesota Wild fans who think Walstede is a god and Cossa is terrible. Cossa + Augustine > Walstede.
I mean in head to head matchupa cossa has already shown he's better than Walstead
Wild fans are on the level of pain i can sympathize with
What's up with ABC? After the 1st period it switched to GIRLS high school 🏀!! And never came back on.....brutal.
The real question is when are the WWP guys going to be guests on Shoresy?
Did U guys miss, Kuznetsov went to players assistance program and has a conditional stint in the AHL?
OHHHH WHOAAA OHHHH OHHH OHH
honestly the isles game was sleepy and the panthers ....look it's a cup favorite against a team that is free money it wasn't great but I thought the boys gave it back well enough to florida, let's get so post season and LGRW!!!!
whoa - slow your roll - the playoffs are not settled by a long shot the trade deadline is Fri - there will be teams getting a bounce off of that. Didn't completely agree with these boys assessments of these games - being about the refs. What i saw was both team was pretty effective forechecking -taking advantage of putting pressure on a wobbly defense and play in their own zone. It is not that Detroit hasn't improved in their own zone - they have but not well enough to overcome more aggressive forechecks - of the Islanders and especially Florida. In reality the game was closer than the score indicated. Then they got taken in by Florida's game - they are led by Tkachuk and they know how to get under your skin and take retaliation penalties. That is exactly what the dynasty red wings needed to learn before they could win. Does anyone remember the really good teams they had in the early 90s - lots of good players scored tons of goals. - Dino Ciccarelli was a perfect example- he would always get bad retaliation penalties, the late Shawn Burr, they ended up replacing them - it is a learning experience. Notice how Tkachuk went after Chiarrot ? You can't tell me he didn't know that is exactly the guy who was going to come back after him. As these guys said - they are really good at this - so they got taken into playing Florida's game. It is a learning experience I still believe that starts with physical play Detroit still needs more of that doesn't have to be Ryan Reaves - shouldn't be - just a mindset of hitting and finishing checks and never letting up that pressure.
@@pjpredhomme7699dude, what on earth is this comment.
I think the poor game management by the refs did change the game a lot. The game was 0-0 when that too many men should have been called, and Florida scored the first goal shortly after that(maybe even while they would have been on the power play), they call that, and it could be a completely different game. Taking 1 from each team when it's the same team starting the scrums every time is bull and like Brad said, why would they stop if it's just going to be 4 on 4. While i think the wings did get outplayed, they certainly couldn't get anything going when the refs were clearly creaming over the panthers all night.
March isn't going to get any easier 2 sets of back to back; and filled with spoiler and/or playoff elite competition. The points cushion is fine but they still need to keep bullying the top half of the league with their offensive talent.
Larkin being out 2 weeks / 6 games is going to suck after those 2 losses. Luckily it’s during a stretch of very winnable games (minus AVS and Vegas). Will have to dig deep. I really hope that Steve doesn’t look at the last two games and the Larkin injury as reason to sell. Would be devastating to the locker room, and the fans. They need to give it their all and continue with the winning culture, even if that means standing pat and possibly losing guys in free agency
I hope he also doesn't use it as a reason to buy, more than enough middling depth on this team already, please no more at the TDL.
@@jessecoonce1363 unless we are shipping out someone like Holl and bringing back someone like Hanafin who would make serious impact and can be here long term
@@vivid_prizm That will be doubly expensive though as they'll be paying big for Hanafin, and then paying more to unload Holl.
Possibly just resting up his back before the big push and his 2nd playoffs ever....it's been done many times before. Might even see a couple more " injuries" once they officially clinch.
There is so much white in this video between the walls, jerseys, the sign, and Ryan I'm going blind even with the brightness turned all the way down.
LOL sorry
@WingedWheelPodcast yeah wasn't something I expected when I threw it on the TV this morning while getting ready. Clearly my eyes were not well adjusted enough 😆
Yzerman is selling? It’s best move. Dylan has some pressure on him now. I hope he responds to the loss with a big game against Colorado.
Otherwise trade deadline trauma incoming. I don’t think Stevie is going to make many moves based off 35 year old Patrick Kane heater. That would be a reach no?
It’s wonderful. Butts in stands!!! They do it or don’t do it with who they got.
I believe they need to do well in GR. They need to do well in Detroit without a lot of help from Stevie for more than 3 out 6 months in a season.
It’s wonderful narrative boys. But what will we do with that first round pick we get for husso Holl and Berger 1st rounder is the real question?
What will we do with New Jerseys picks!
😀😃😂🤣🤣
Your telling me the WWP is brought to you by Labatt but the wings have a trash company patch
Panthers are a wagon. Refs or not, they play to win
At 26:00 the Ref's do what they're paid to do. Make the most possible amount of money for the NHL, and themselves. They have no open integrity, they are held on an unquestionable pedestal.
refs = gods. that being said, we should never leave the game up to the refs, they suck and we know it, but this team is so much better than we thought they would be, so LGRW if we make the post season its free money let's learn and grow baby, love this team love these boys
Lalonde ran Lyon into the ground. Period.
You can blame the carbon tax for lack of attendance in Winnipeg
Sometimes I can’t finish episodes when Ryan goes on a 5 minute crying hissy fit about the refs