SHOWTIME! PATRICK KANE, PLAYOFFS, & TRADE DEADLINE ft. Max Bultman - Winged Wheel Podcast - Feb. 25
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SHOWTIME! PATRICK KANE, WHAT A NIGHT.
Tune into the most positive episode in Winged Wheel Podcast history as we open by discussing the pure electricity coursing through the veins of every Detroit Red Wings fan after Patrick Kane's vintage "Showtime" OT winner against Chicago (0:00). We then start the episode in earnest by covering the first of Detroit's 3 wins, a Hockeytown victory over the Colorado Avalanche thanks to the likes of Dylan Larkin, Alex Lyon, Ben "OT Benny" Chiarot, and (another!) Patrick Kane's overtime winner (9:10). Next, a playoff-calibre dominant performance against St. Louis, including Alex DeBrincat striking twice, Kane extending his streak, Lucas Raymond continuing his breakout season, Michael Rasmussen, Fabbri, Compher, & more contributing, Derek "Newsy" Lalonde pulling the Red Wings together, & more (16:35). Finally, Detroit's thrilling comeback victory over the Chicago Blackhawks on Chris Chelios Jersey Retirement Night, including Reimer's heroics against Bedard, Sprong & Fischer, & Alex DeBrincat & Patrick Kane combining to write hockey history (24:15).
Next, we're joined by Max Bultman of The Athletic Detroit to talk Detroit Red Wings playoff chances, Steve Yzerman's trade deadline ambitions, Kane, Raymond, Guentzel, & lots more (36:25).
Finally, we provide more updates on the Trade Deadline including what we're hearing on Guentzel, Berggren, Emily Kaplan's reports on Kane and Perron, & more (1:03:50).
After that, an update on Detroit's AHL affiliate Grand Rapids Griffins going on a 15 game point streak, lead by Sebastian Cossa, Simon Edvinsson, Berggren, Mazur, Kasper, & others (not to mention Axel Sandin Pellikka & Nate Danielson elsewhere) (1:25:25) before we take your questions and comments during our Overtime segment (1:30:00) - enjoy!
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I have never seen Brad so positive, if we didn’t already think we were in a simulation after that game, we definitely are now.
Defining game of season was Colorado. It let them know they could play against the best and win legit. That game defined everyones role's. This team has identity now. They then go into STL game with big swagger and win. I am hoping we dont add anyone that messes with chemistry. I would rather keep this band of misfits and dawgs as is.
Definitely with the identity and roles. Let's not forget they have played much, much better defensively since December. They were giving up so many grade AA chances - haven't seen hardly any of that since.
Reimer not having on ball cam is the PERFECT description lmao
Massive shoutout to Ryan, had a great interview this past week with Woodward Sports Network, hope you get a chance to do more of those! The Wings as of late, have me jumping out out my seat! LGRW 🐙 🏒 🤘
Massively appreciated, thank you!
long time red wings fan ups and downs hockeytown is back
Detroit hockey is impossible to ignore right now. Some (Sens fans) are livid, I'm loving this.
keep up the good work fellas! also i would love to hear you shout out to Awood40.... who ever they are make the best wings highlight packages, of great red wings games in the past, and every win of the year. true Detroit hero
ITS SHOOOOWWTIIIIIME! I keep saying how much I love Kaner. Dude has brought the sauce back to Detroit. Reimer played so well. Cat had himself a weekend too. Let’s go wings baby! 🎉
Having been a Kane fan since his time in Chicago, I will be the first to admit I only started watching the Wings because of him, but it’s safe to say that I’m now a full on Red Wings fan. I guess I needed a new team to stan after Chicago managed to get rid of every single player and even staff I recognised lol (almost cried seeing Keith, Sharp, Hossa and Seabrook on my screen yesterday... the nostalgia was real) but, man, the Wings have been so exciting to watch this year. Although I hadn’t followed the Wings closely at all before, it’s clear to see that Kaner has brought a different kind of energy, experience and confidence to the locker room-and even the fans-in Detroit. And how the team has embraced it with open arms. Thank you RW for taking care of my favourite hockey player and letting him flourish. This feels like a beautiful comeback story not just for Kaner but for the franchise too. LGRW.
Let’s finish ahead of Toronto! We don’t need a wild card spot! GO WINGS!
I'd love that. It's possible if everyone is healthy and we don't screw with the chemistry too much
This game and the March 26th game in 97 are my two favorite regular season games of my lifetime. Both felt completely scripted with OT winners by the PERFECT person for the moment. I'm so high on hockey right now its incredible!
Seriously? That March 26th game was edge of your seat from beginning to end. This game had a great OT winner in a mostly boring game.
@@chomas8784 I did say my favorite, not the best. But I’ll elaborate a bit. Chelios is one of my top 5 favs ever so the game felt extra special for me going in. Mickey in tears at Kane’s tribute showed just how big the night was for him as well. I admit that the game had some lulls and I am definitely operating on recency bias but I had chills and tears in a way I sure enjoyed.
Detroit Red Wings is the NHL's new favorite Cinderella team!
I seen the red wings in a smokey room, smell of wine and cheap perfume
You guys have had a decade to prepare for this podcast what a moment!
(Very fitting evan missed it😂) love the show guys. Thanks.
Evan is nothing if not true to his brand. Thank you!
BIG VIBES RIGHT NOW BOYS!
BIG vibes!
Dude I am so happy right now! This is so fun and Everyone is 🤩 mode! Love it!
As SOON as the Chicago game ended, I was WAITING for this to drop! Thank you for putting out content!
4 minutes in and I'm ready to run through a wall
As a hawks fan it is so good to see Kane back to his old ways and having continued success even though it might be with Detroit. I’ll definitely be keeping an eye on the wings once playoffs roll around and looking forward to see how Kane and Cat will do! Best of luck and GG!
Gonna be weird seeing a bunch of hawk fans cheering for the wings in playoffs lol.
He is 100% due for a 4 or 5 point night soon enough, and maybe a couple of them. He still has it....
I noticed that Kaner was wearing the "A" for the first time as well... Classy move #LGRW
I'm still fired up after that game last night. Gonna be smiling all day. LGRW
Welp won't be in bed till after 3 am now! Cheers boys, you guys are the goats!
Appreciate you! 🙌
LGRW! remember, last year the panthers were fighting for the last spot in the playoffs... ended up being a powerhouse. Also ended up carrying over into this season, making them one of the best in the league. Maybe we won't push all the way to the finals this year, but i could see this really being the turning point for us
SHOWTIME!!! LGRW
Another great episode! What a time to be a wings fan! Hope you guys are well!
Thank you! 🙏
Kane is comeback player of the year hands down he is still one of the best players still in the game today
Stevie and the Cat brought Kaner here. Don't see any reason for him to leave. The Wings have cap space. PPG player right now, and he's a star on this team. The young guys, especially Rayzer, are going to learn so much from him. It's clicking right now. Keep it going.
Guentzel’s numbers when he’s playing without Crosby are still really good. It’s happened a lot because of injuries
Unreal ending to that game. I have listened to the you tube short of Ken and Mick's call at least 10 times. One of the most exciting moments in a long time. Can't wait for WWP night this weekend. Keep up the good work boys. LGRW!!!
Really hope Cossa gets the net Friday verse Wallstedt. Bringing my daughter to that game. Should be pretty fun.
WOW. JUST WOW. My dad he'd take me to a wings playoff game if they make it. Life is so good rn boys lets enjoy it!
edit: wow 140 nice lol
Obviously looked tired but 2 points is 2 points and it feels like much more in this situation
What a night and what a podcast! Lets Gooo!!!
I like the new look, lets put Evan in the middle when he's back
Had to watch this one on CZcams, Spotify just wouldn’t do for a night like tonight.
PATTY FUCKING KANE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN !!!
Honestly in the Guentzel conversation and situation, I'd try something new; I'd offer him 2 years, with a goal and/or point milestone up until the trade deadline in his second year. If he can reach it and show he can produce and contribute, he'll get another 4 year contract.
If he can't meet it, but looks great, sign him for another three and either continue using him or use him as a trade piece
I’m just so happy…. Much love boys! 🤘🏽💕🤘🏽
It was wild how easy it was to find the kaner goal highlight. It's still Detroit v. EVERYBODY
Also, what happens if 19 turns it around so quick, which generates confidence, and if needed (say next year) DET again, becomes a UFA destination? Soked GR is doing so good also, some good kids there.
Talks about how the vibes are the same as the lions run, but fails to mention the 'Jared Goff' chant v STL 🐙🦁
Hard pass on guentzel or any top ufa’s and Yzerman shouldn’t be trading Berggren I think he’s got really good potential and should at least play him and let him produce and sell high. We won’t get squat for him at the deadline
Why wouldn’t we get anything? You’re selling his potential witch I bet yzerman can sell at a higher price than he could if he plays a full season and only produces 30-35 points at best and shows he’s very weak on the puck. Amazing passer and vision tho 🤷🏻♂️
@@-Nv-94 he had 15 goals as a rookie on the 4th line I’m sure if he had more icetime and ppl opportunity over a veleno he can get 50-55 pts. Right now his value is at a low cause he hasn’t had a full chance in the nhl and we’re keeping him down when he should be up. I’d much rather play him a full season expose him on the ppl and top 9 and see what he can do and then deal him if we have to
Not interested in pick 58 in the draft or some mediocre bottom line guy
He is helping the Griffins and could be a key reason why they are tearing up the league. The wings are a team now that has 4 lines scoring. They will have to decide on him in the off season...unless a true steal gets dropped in Y's lap.
@@dennisgoebel3615 much rather get rid of Fabbri and keep Berggren. Perron will be 36 and breaking down , much rather have a 23 yr old
The game itself wasn't good! It thrived on the excitement and the events on match day. But the goals were all great. Starting with Sprong who was fouled and still scored the goal. Then DeBrincat who scored the goal behind the goal line. And, at the end of the drama, Kane scores the final goal with a counterattack.
SY won't do much during the deadline unless he gets a good offer. Because he doesn't want to destroy the chemistry the team currently has. Even if we were eliminated in the first round and would have been better with new players.
But SY will have a lot of work in the offseason!
New contracts with Seider (7.5-8.5m, 8 years) and Raymond (4.5-5.0m, 5 years)
I wouldn't give Peron, Gostisbehere and Fisher new contracts!
But, I would like to see Sprong and Kane again. Sprong (3.5-4.5m, 2 years) Kane (5.5-6.5m, 4 years).
Here comes the problem with the capspace and therefore SY has to get rid of some bad or unuseful contracts either with trade or a buyout. So that he can bring up young talent from Grand Rapids and/or sign new players.
SY has to find a solution for these players:
1. Kostin
2. Holl
3. Copp
4. Factory
5. Petry
6. Määttä
7. Veleno
8. Husso
Here are my Armchair GM thoughts.
Trade
DET: Petry (RD/LD), Husso (G), 2nd 2024
CAL: R. Andersson (RD), 5th 2024
I chose Husso because I think Markström will also be traded.
Petry because they need a right defender as a replacement
DET: Veleno (LW/C), Määttä (LD), Fabri (LW/C), Buium (LD), 5th 2024 (from CAL)
PIT: Gunzel
Probably PIT would like to have a few more draft picks. But Gunzel was/is injured and we don't know how healthy he will be again and how much his new contract will be.
DET: Holl (RD/LD), Czarnik (C/RW), 6th 2025
MON: E. Andersson (C/LW), Heineman (LW/RW)
MON don't have that many right defenders and they don't know whether Reinbacher can play immediately in 2024/25
We get 2 players who can play AHL and NHL
cheap and good for both teams
DET: Gunzel (LW/RW), 2nd 2025
OTT: B. Takchuk (LW), 3rd 2025
There are rumors that OTT B. Tkachuk will be traded. If so, that would be my offer
(very unlikely)
DET: Copp (C/RW/LW), Hanas (C/RW/LW), Huchinson (G)
SAN: Blackwood (G), Sturm (C), 4th 2024
DET: Kostin (LW/RW)
???: Waivers, future consideration
Maybe signings in 2024/25
Forsling (LD)
Mittelstadt (LW/C)
Carrier (RD)
Trenin (LW/C)
Marchenko (RW)
Desired lineup 2024/25
DeBrincat (LW/RW) Lakin (C) Kane (RW)
B.Tkachuk (LW) Compher (C/RW) Raymond (RW/LW)
Berggren (LW/RW) Danielson (C) Sprong (RW/LW)
Rasmusen (LW/C) Sturm (C) Heineman (RW/LW)
(Mazur (LW) Kasper (C) Söderblom (RW/LW))
Wallman (LD) Seider (RD)
Edvinsson (LD) R. Andersson (RD)
Johansson (LD/RD) Chiarot (RD/LD)
(Walinder (LD) Carrier (RD))
Lyon (G)
Blackwood (G)
(Reimer (G))
Special teams power play
DeBrincat LW B.Tkachuk LW Larkin C Kane RW
Andersson RD
Beggren LW Sprong LW Compher C Raymond RW
Seider RD
If Ghost whiffs on any more passes or shots I'm going to lose my mind. Other than that, great last few games!
He’s whiffing himself out of an extension I think
Key stat: #1 PK IN THE LEAGUE since DEC 12th. Lot of that is Lyon, but it is a stat woth noting. Kane has changed the entire dynamic of this team (sure, give it to ADB also but) and 12.... 12 guys with 10 goals, that is basically an entire roster plus a few of those will get over 20 (if they're not already) I expect some regression ( I mean they are on a nice streak) but I just hope they stay healthy, and most certainly hope Kaner sticks around next year (and maybe beyond) wonder if we go get Jenner or someone like that. I think they players could certainly force 19's hand... but, I'd still like him to hold ALL picks and prospects unless something perfect comes around.
Can't blame berggy when ras is playing top 6 minutes
Showtime!!! Cup Summer ❤
KANER!!
I prefer the big trade swing at goalie over forward and D. Picking your tandem next year between Markstrom, Cossa, and Lyon sounds good to me. If we add a forward it'll just be even harder to get the pipeline up in the NHL, and D is too crowded as is and same thing with more on the way.
33:29 they've played so well you can forget how December went
I loved this episode i only object with the Avs game opinion. I think that game was electrict and one of the best of the season, i think goalies were both on point, and was all in all a fantastic game. We might have not dominated as we did agaisnt the blues, but it was definitely an amazing Match where the Avs showed what a powerhouse they are and we still managed to put a heck of a display.
Crossovers between Chicago and Detroit.
They can have Chelios, but Probert was always our guy, but they feel otherwise.
Add in Rodman as ours too. Kane is theirs, and Mrazek is theirs.
It was a video game play.
Happy to see you guys be positve and productive and leave prospects and contract term out of recap whining. Who would you want to see in a round one prediction? Panthers, Bruins, or Rangers with their 3 horse race for number 1 East. The home stand and/or season gauntlet isn't over until April 1st. 2 NYI gms, 3 Florida gms, 2 capitals, Vegas, Colorado, and a handful of wc chasers who would love to ruin the Detroit parade. CANT STOP NOW!! LGRW!! 🐙
Went to bed @ 2-1 Hawks - me in UK. And figured OK Hockey Gods you have been generous- for me to ask more is just selfish …. Refused to check in the middle of night … then first thing this morning the was some alert about KANE - figured was all the tribute yadda. Then the reality hit - and then checked the points situe. I was at the Joe when they won first cup in 90’s and in Washington for 2nd cup. The buzz over last 3 games - is as high as then. ❤. No been to pizza palace yet. I am so impressed with Ras / Razor / Fish / Sprong works like a dog… but Man o Man Seider’s skating and getting looks. Kane is RedTrotters CurlyKane. Insane puck distribution and finish 😳. Larkin finally getting support. ❤
I love Perron and the leadership he provides but we cannot and shouldn’t resign him. I’d take him over Fabbri but Fabbri has another year, I suppose we can let fischer go for Perron but I like him for his role too. I want Berger and one of Kasper/Mazcur up next year if they look good enough. Mazcur another right shot, along with Sprong and Perron. Sprong absolutely should come back over Perron. It’s tough
Could/Should the Wings try to acquire Elias Pettersson? Why/Why not? And if so, how?
If we knew the real potential of this team going into the playoffs i would gamble on getzuel, however it being their first playoff appearance i don't think they have that luxury to make a move like that. Boston, Toronto, New York or Tampa.
35 yr old former every trophy winner at 2.75, playing like he's 29? My only concern is somehow inking Kaner to a 1-3 year deal at a comfortable AAV. Games like this for a vet that's done it all and just 'having fun' make it entirely possible. What you guys think about trading for Jenner? I know, I know, we have like 5 guys just like him, but it seems to be working right?
2 years deal would be a good starting point.
Kaner is definitely a rare breed - most players at his age might be cup chasing like Pavelski. But Kaner already has 3 cups and won everything there is to win, the best American born player ever (Matthews has a chance to overtake him but Matthews at least needs to win a cup). He just likes to play and have fun, and show the hockey world he is still the showtime. And playing for a great GM, historic franchise on an upward trajectory, and with a group of friends - that might be what he is looking for at this point of his career. And he did mention his time in the USNTDP, and the fact his dad can drive to Detroit from Buffalo for his games are bonus points.
It has been obvious since he signed that he had an interest in Detroit and being on this team. That has only become more apparent since then. Definitely true what Ryan said what is most noticeable is how much better Larkin has become with good players surrounding him. We could project that before but it is a lot of fun to watch the real thing.
Guentzel could be insurance if the Wings feel like Sprong will try and maximize money and someone will overpay.
LGRW
🐙🐙🐙🐙
I wish I could go back to all the comment sections after last year's draft and a good chunk of this fan base questioning the yzerplan I haven't heard a word out of those fans for months
Im hoping he gets defenceman Mario Farraro from Sharks. Hes sigmed for 4yrs 3.25mil. Hes 25 ans defencive defenceman. It woud be good upgrade without spending anything
I don't believe Chelios made that bet...he may well have, but I don't think he did..
“100 percent” after ever statement AGAIN
Im ordering a Steve fleecing for trading Holl, for anything. Get Edvinson up, just personal preference. Oh, this might be a lil much. But i heard Evan died from a self sucking incident. Is it true?
You know Ken Holland has to be on speed dial #1
Put hockey town back at center ice!!!
Then where will they put the virtual advertising?😊
They will during the playoffs I think
They controlled their own destiny last year too and they shit themselves...I won't stop stressing until they actually clinch a playoff spot and I respectfully disagree especially with how the east and Atlantic has been that 8 points is not that big of a lead in my opinion
Marcus Pettersson ?? Pass
😃 P r o m o S M
Trade husso, holl, fabbri, and petry
I heard you guys get a shout out on 97.1 for sharing the Newsy clip about Vegas betting odds.
We're streaking!!!!!
LGRW!