CAPITAL LOSS & RED WINGS/DRAFT PROSPECTS ft. Scott Wheeler - Winged Wheel Podcast - Mar. 27th, 2024
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The Detroit Red Wings had a big opportunity against a playoff race rival, and they didn't take advantage - but they didn't walk away with nothing.
Tune in as we discuss the Red Wings and their OT loss to the Washington Capitals, including Alex DeBrincat's goal & miscues on the other side of the puck, Perron & Patrick Kane scoring, Alex Lyon doing his job, unfortunate turnovers and missed coverages by Copp, Seider, Larkin, Maatta, and others, Jeff Petry's non-shot, and more from Derek Lalonde's squad (4:50). Next, a look at Hockeytown's upcoming schedule and playoff race status against the Capitals, Flyers, and Islanders (19:45).
After that, we give Red Wings updates on prospects as Berggren was sent down, Emmitt Finnie signed his ELC, Axel Sandin Pellikka, Sebastian Cossa/the Grand Rapids Griffins, & more (26:55) before we're joined by Scott Wheeler of The Athletic to discuss the Detroit Red Wings prospect pipeline (Edvinsson, ASP, Augustine, Cossa, Mazur, Johnasson, Wallinder, Danielson, & others), as well as 2024 NHL Draft prospects, (Celebrini, Demidov, Eiserman, Perekh, Buium) & more (31:30)!
Finally, some positive notes on Vladimir Konstantinov before we take your questions and comments during our Overtime segment (1:05:30) - enjoy!
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The Scott Wheeler interview is exactly what I needed to assuage my post Carolina depression. Thanks for the therapy.
Welp the wings killed brad 😂
It was a good run, can't wait til next season!!
Scott Wheeler was a good listen, I had to laugh though when he said the Wings missed the boat on top 5 picks. Constantly getting pushed 2-3 picks back. More like the NHL tossed us overboard.
Petry passed that puck like he had money on a Caps W
He has proved a terrible signing.
They wanted Petry years ago. Now he is over the hill.
Pray they do not resign him once his contract is over.
The acquisition was good. Keeping him in the lineup has been a colossal mistake and a huge strike against the Yzerman/Lalonde regime
@@danielhundley9348I would not say it was a good acquisituon at all. Had they made that trade for Petry before signing Holl then it might have been a good acquisition, now they have 2 defense signed for one and 2 more years that both are 7 D quality for a combined ~$6M
Edvinsson had the yips in the first, but really calmed down in the 2nd and 3rd. I understood when they didn't play him when the Wings were hot and the Griffins were on a run(still are without). But now that this team has only won 3 games out of their last 13 you cannot play Petry instead of Edvinsson if Walman comes back. You just can't.
We weren't even supposed to make it in the playoffs this year.
It almost seemed like as soon as we were almost going to be a lock, the team just.....stopped playing lol. It was like by design.
Regardless, next year will have this core four:
Larkin, Raymond, Seider, Debrincat
And Compher, Copp, Chiarot, Fabbri, Petry, Maatta, Walman, Rasmussen, Husso, and Lyon unless we get the wizardry of Yzerman in trades to improve.. Settle in for another year with these guys.
Oh and Justin Holl but i don't know if we keep him he doesn't seem to fit Yzerman/Lalonde's vision
Edvinsson
And another year of solid vets getting ruined by Lalonde
@@justanotherDAWGReally wish Yzerman would handle the trades and let someone else handle the UFA's, past 2 offseasons have not been good. Not sure I'm a fan of the amateur scouting group either.
Evan should talk more going forward.
There is no universe where wally comes back and there's any kind of justification to send ed away over petry or maata
? Jake's signed for a couple years.
There's alot of replacements coming...
@@sportsfix6975Is there? Only Gostisbehere is not under contract next season on the defense
It is what it is. I hate that phrase, but the Wings do still have a chance. They can still make it. All it takes is a Caps losing streak or for the Flyers to stay cold. If the Wigs manage to get two out of three in CAR, FLA, or TB... I think they still make it. With that said, Yzerman and Lalonde did tell us all to not expect playoffs again this past offseason, and this has been my position as well. The team is still learning, still growing, and right now, they're still a very mid bubble team that was predicted by most to fall to seventh in the division this season. We have absolutely improved, and unless we pull a Sabres or Sens next season (doubtful), we should be a playoff lock.
We may not pull an Ottawa or Buffalo next season, but I certainly don’t expect those two to repeat the season they had this year, and I expect the Habs to be better too. NJ will certainly be better as well. Making the playoffs next year I believe will only be more difficult than this year. Can’t count on other teams to flounder the same way they did this year
Red Wings are top 12. Who are the elite scoring wingers?
How could they attain top 2 without once winning the draft lottery? That would be an incredible spell of adding talent.
I was at the Wings/Caps game and there were a lot of Wings fans there. After Kane tied the game we were so hyped....we could taste that OT win....and then so much disappointment.That missed chance by Petry....ouch! Here's hoping they play with more desperation/determination tonight against the Canes. They played a good game but not a great game against the Caps. They need to find some intensity from here on out if they're going to sneak back into that wild card spot.
I feel if Washington can beat Winnipeg and Carolina then so can Detroit. Is it likely? No. But it's optimism. We probably finish where Pittsburgh did last year so let's see what may come. This season to me has been a huge confidence booster. No reason we can't improve the roster and make better signings granted we can off load so lme spots as well
I would not be happy with either of Kasper or Danielson becoming a 30 to 40 point guy. If you're not getting a legit top 6 forward or top four defenseman, you're wasting a top 10 pic.
Why didn’t Steve sign OReilly over Compher? I like JT but OReilly can comfortably flex into a 1C and can be an excellent 2C and was cheaper than JT as well 😂 probably wouldn’t have gone on that skid with OReilly as 1C when Larks was out
People say these things as if Yzerman can just sign whoever he wants. "Why didn't he sign Gudas? Why didn't he sign O'Reilly? Why didn't he sign x over y?" All Yzerman can do is make a contract offer. There probably multiple teams in talks with O'Reilly in the offseason and he chose Nashville, and it's not hard to understand why given the location and tax situation. Sometimes it just comes down to a player not wanting to play somewhere no matter how much money is offered.
LAex Lyon for some reason at this time is bad luck even though he is playing good but James Reimer even though he is playing average may end winning all the upcoming games.
Hronek is having a year because Vancouver was a wagon most of the year. Don’t pick him up.
Petry has to go! He should never lace them up again in an nhl game
There's a one in 200 chance of moving up from 15th to first in the 2024 draft, which is about the same odds as making the 2024 playoffs has become.
It's just a game, boys.
A game you can bet on!
Get raymond off larkins wing holy hell he stifles him
Yes, Petry passing that puck was really bad. And when Walman is back, I'd rather have him and Edvisson over Petry, but Petry's game against the Caps was solid. He had an assist and should have been credited for a secondary apple on the Kane goal. Plus, the Petry/Edvisson pairing looked like a competent pairing. Judging Petry on that one play and lumping the Caps-game performance in with the rest of the bad Petry play this season is not hitting the mark for me.
Apathy.
I was 20 feet away from that missed empty net by everyones favorite defenseman Jeff Petry. Hurt me deep watching that one. Im glad I got to see an exciting game at least. LGRW 🐙 🏒 🤘
Even saying "It's not impossible..." seems ridiculously optimistic at this point.
Petry has spent the whole season getting scapegoated and ragged on. No wonder to me he has little confidence.
He gets paid millions of dollars to play a children's game. No pity at all.
I agree the blame for the March (and a lesser extent the December) swoons are on the players, but my criticism of Lalonde goes deeper than strategy and call-ups, but in his continual referral to the Wings as being "fragile". Regardless of whether it's TRUE, a coach shouldn't label them as such publicly. It gives them an out, characterizes them as head cases, and is the antithesis of a motivational tool. The NHL doesn't use specificity when disclosing physical injuries, and a coach shouldn't allude to the team as being mentally injured or weak either. Unless you're Tortorella of course.
I see some folks think Seider should get a long-term contract in the 8 mil per year. That is ridiculous! He is average at best, and 5 mil would be the top of the range on a 3 year deal.
He plays against the league's elite, and he frequently starts his shifts in the D zone. Also, I believe he hasn't missed a game yet. But he does look a little tired right now, I admit.
He makes the same mistakes every game. Syder is good but he’s not elite at least right now and no way deserves 8 mil. I’d give him 4yrs at 4.8-5.8mil.
This coaching staff is not bringing out the best in our guys. Raymond is the only young player that I’m seeing actual growth and consistency.
Even if you don't think he's worth 8 mil, there are comparable defensemen in the league making around that kind of money, and the market is what sets the price. No way in hell you don't at least try to lock up your young, number 1 pairing RHD to the max term. I'm glad you're not our GM.
I’m done with Lalonde and Yzerman. Five years in and this team is still a mess. Copp, Chiarot, Compher, Petry, Holl, Ghost…brutal. Then you got picks that aren’t even encouraging, Kasper and Danielson are low ceiling AHL guys.
S.J. is a mess. Detroit WILL win a Cup with Seider,Raymond, Edvinsson, Cossa and Sandin-Pellika
All the crapping on Petry this game, but Seider was a -2. He had a brutal giveaway on the Caps' first goal in the 3rd. In ot he didn't stop the pass. But it's alright, he is an Yzerman pick and as people like to point out, he has the hardest deployment in the NHL. BS!
@@davidlaffin5747 the only one who seems to throw hits, and he's on against the best lines at 22!
Some really bad takes lol 😂
The old saying. You don't want to be here? Good, We don't want you here.