Actual Gameplay! - Sapiens Devlog 41
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
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With a continued focus on gameplay, this week I worked on the relationship system, and the re-addition of pregnancy and sapien life stages. As a result it is now finally possible to actually grow your tribe and create more sapiens. This is enough of a goal that the game is actually fun to play now, and it marks the beginning of the transition to playtest driven development.
In Sapiens, evolve your primitive hunter gatherers through thousands of years of technological advancement. Feed, protect and grow your tribe, build towns and industry, and advance through the ages in this first person civilization building god game for PC. Play with your friends in co-operative or competitive multiplayer, all on a procedurally generated planet larger than Earth.
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I've been watching this guy for so long and it's crazy to see how it's changed
Same. He has really gone far.
"now that kids can have kids"
phrasing...
It seems like your Sapiens could use a few "environmental" dangers that can stunt the growth of the tribe. Storms that destroy fruit-bearing trees, predators that attack tribe members that wander too far from the rest of the tribe when looking for resources, dry seasons that impact how much fruit is grown. Perhaps harvested fruit should have a limited life-span in which it remains edible, after one season of storage, a piece of fruit could become rotten. I have wish-listed Sapiens for a while now and would love to become an early-access playtester!
He's spoken about some of these, like climate/weather, and predators in the past, so he already has ideas for these.
yee spoiled food would make some challenge
I think that the relationship system could give an interesting motivation to interact with neighbouring tribes, where young people want to find partners they are not so closely related to. Looking forward to see how this shapes up over the months ahead. Also liking the new devlog approach.
I love how the relationships debug menu has the fancy animated menu box. Polished on all levels, lol
You’re really going above and beyond with this.
This game has gone from an idea to a full fledged thing! Amazing to watch it happen!
I've been watching this series for a while, and I gotta say the game is progressing along really well! I really like the gameplay style video that shows how you’ve been developing the core mechanics of the game. I had a few quick thoughts.
Would be really cool if the sapiens had their own traits like vision, strength, loyalty, etc. Some of these traits could be genetic and they could also change over time in response to the activities that they normally engage in. Kind of like a level-up system. This could add good variation in the game and add personalization and specialization to each one of your sapiens.
You mentioned adding intricacies to the relationship roles. I like the idea of a respect / loyalty aspect to a relationship. The sapien that is most respected by the largest number of peer sapiens could become the tribe leader. If a certain sect of the population is mutually dissatisfied with the current chief, they can break away from their current tribe and start a new one or join a different one.
Just a few random thoughts. Cheers!
The game is taking shape on every progress you've reached and looking awesome! It reminds me about an old game I use to play called " Black & White ". I love how the game has some great visuals and shaders. Keep up the good work! Can't wait to see this game reach it's final stage or at least beta stage and have hands on it! Am sure my daughter and I will have a blast together playing it. We spend time playing Minecraft so this game will take us into another wonderful journey and fun!
The movement of the people in the tribe looks very mechanical which I think could be related to them always keeping their back straight. I don't know how hard that would be to add but I fell like that would help. Also if the parents have a child, have the children group up and run around together playing with a ball or something, I feel like that would really add a child dynamic besides the smaller size.
The portraits would look so much better if they were also lit from a warm light in the lower left. Keep the stark light from the upper right, but put them next to a bright fire and the faces won't look so dark and shapeless.
Nothing brings me more joy than a new sapiens video
An option to enable or disable genetic diseases from inbreeding could be a cool idea, that way it would encourage the player to attract other tribes to join them, with it becoming less and less a problem in late game
It's looking better and better by the update! I like your design approach in many areas, going for a flexible, broad system, rather than a rigid, granular one. For example how you made families sort of just, grow based on relationships, rather than "MAN AND WOMAN MAKE BABY, THEY ARE NUCLEAR FAMILY UNIT" =P. (Especially considering that many tribal cultures had a large variety of complex relationships and family structures that's just not represented very well in most games) These relationships might also affect how skills are passed down.
So you could have a child with a grandparent or uncle or perhaps even a niece who will teach them a new skill =). There's a lot of potential with this! Looking forward to seeing more. The village, though simple looks great too!
Should the relationships develop as they do positive interactions with each other?
Like if someone helps you build something, or someone eat together with you, or if someone gives you food. Or make a new tool for you.
Then the childs relationship with it's mother will kind of naturally get good as the mother interacts with her child. And the more helpful a sapien is, the more popular he will be, and the more likely he will pass on his genes.
I love that idea but I think that it will also need certain actions that have a negative influence on the relationship to balance things out.
@@Locedamius
definitely.
This looks really neat with the family/relationship system, the idea of a narrative you can create with a missing parental figure is a nice touch.
Could be a much later thing to add, but it would be neat to have like a Sapien family tree chart thing so you could see the descendants of the Sapiens and how that pans out over the course of the game. Could be integrated in such a way that you can click on a Sapien in the tree and it could highlight the other Sapeins and the relationship they had with others at the current point in time of game or their previous relations if say they are deceased.
Your amazing, every single problem that I know that if I had this job I couldn’t solve you always finish with hours and I can’t understand how it’s so easy for you but at the same time so hard. Thank you for working on this game no matter how tired or overloaded with personal things you are! 👏👏👏🔥🔥🔥👍
it all comes down to experience. When you're trying to learn something, initially it looks impossible, eventually it feels more achievable, and at a certain point you no longer understand why you even had trouble with it to begin with. Then you learn things on top of that and at some point you're a monster capable of achieving really cool things in really short amounts of time. I also find it pretty impressive, seeing someone with so much experience work
AfonsodelCB Exactly.
I love seeing how far you’ve come Dave! I can’t wait to see what you’ll have gotten done in a week or two from now!
If there is too much food you could always add animals stealing the collected food, with the sapiens either guarding the food or having to build a food depo
Don MinecraftOne or spoiling food
Oh my gosh this game has evolved so much! On my wishlist
Exciting to see a transition from the world + terrain required to support the gameplay, to the gameplay itself! Also I think you're taking the right approach regarding the connection between relationships and reproduction, relationship scores and amount of contact are nice organic indicators for reproduction. I'd take it a step deeper personally, and have a hidden 'intimacy' score derived from some interplay of static sapien compatibility and relationship score, that represents percent chance of reproduction at any given time. Also it would be cool if the amount a child's relationships are imprinted from parents could be related to their contact with that parent or something. Anyway this is getting really cool!
Balancing ideas:
1. You could limit how much food is able to be harvested before it’s yield is decreased, eventually causing a plant to be a waste of space and time. Chopping the tree frees up space.
2. Pillaging / wars. Nearby villages may pillage resources. Completely desperate villages may disband. Villagers of disbanded villages will seek out random villages, children will follow mothers. Disbanded villages become ruins, sites for other villages to finish pillaging, OR other disbanded village citizens may adopt a ruin.
I love the progression you see over your episodes.
I can't believe this game or these videos haven't gotten more traction. At the very least this series has been a master course in UI design. You should try to do a talk at GDC.
I think that doing a little animation when a female and male decide to have a kid would make the players happier. When I played Virtual Villagers, I found the "love hut" very amusing and of course found it important to know who the father was and maybe even have some control over who I bred. It doesn't have to be anything fancy - just maybe disappearing into a tent, some hearts and then the female walks out pregnant.
Once again, even though Virtual Villagers didn't give their people much personality, I got attached to some of them via assigning them certain skills, "jobs" etc, their relationships and what they looked like (more variation, also in clothing, made each villager more unique). Certain aspects of your game reminds me of it, so maybe you could look into what the players of these games liked and disliked for possible ideas :)
Edit: also, family trees and burial rituals/grounds for when sapiens die, would be cool and useful :)
You're doing a great job Dave!
I love how far you have come and it is so inspiring to know that as an indie developer you have made such an amazing game.
Can't wait to see it on Steam!
I feel there should be a check if there is somewhere for a new sapien to live before they have a new child. It would add to the feel of building it up because you would need sufficient habitats
It's really nice to see the progress you've made now. Please keep up the great work :)
This looks fantastic! Awesome work Dave
This is absolutely amazing. You blow it out of the water each update man, if I had the skills and the knowledge this is EXACTLY what I’d love to make. It must feel amazing to have generated your own world, with plants, and people that build and grow. The possibilities really are endless. Hats off man.
This is actually so cool man. I'm hooked on watching this dude
Great work man! Keep it up. Very exciting!
I remember years ago watching the terrain fly through video... Now this? Really love watching these vids man, keep it up!
I can just imagine all the sapiens standing around the village space just turning and randomly waving to another sapien lol
Relation ship tree interface would be nice, like it would show the hierarchy of relativity and family , just an idea .. BTW amazing work .. your video really help me do more when my self steam goes down i just bull up one of your video and it gives me a solid boot to keep developing and doing more, this channel means a lot to me and i wish you the best.
Looking great as usual
Do a different tree graphs for the tribes, Family and relations for example
DUDE GREAT WORK LOVE TO SEE IT FINISHED AND CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY COOL
Wow! I haven’t checked in in a while. Been really busy with work. But it looks really good! Really well done 👍🏼
wow this is turning out great can't wait to play, I like the stuff you have added in.
so this game will basically be the sims but with a historical/survival touch to it. I like that
Well done! Looks great :)
If you're looking for ways to have people leave the tribe then one option is to essentially have ostracising, so if a sapien has low relationship value(s) for everyone else in the tribe then they leave. It does sort of depend on you having relationships change over time somehow which I'm not sure if you are planning, but could be cool. Keep up the good work :)
Amazing cant wait to play it
Finally! Proud of your hard work
9:15 This scene gave me very strong vibes of the movie _"The Gods Must Be Crazy"_ I guess you're doing a phenomenal job then. Because the movie is great.
And I love the way you are implementing the social live of your sapiens.
My girlfriend is studying social anthropology and she recently told me that a lot of the stone age tribes that exist today, isolated from the modern world, often have a large surplus of food. So in that sense, your game is kind of realistic!
I like the relationships idea. You should make the UI more like a family tree. I think that would be easier to visually read
It's looking so beautiful!
Looking very good
I didn't realize how fun this game was actually going to be until I saw all those sapiens working together. This game is gonna be killer, Dave!
This game looks good
Planting looks dope
Exile used to be a punishment almost as harsh as death because people were unlikely to survive outside their tribe.
Can't wait to see how other people play with this and see it evolves further from there.
An idea for the roof, it's gonna look weird without the walls, and any wall part you add probably won't fit. Maybe in the future you could add some model options like a color palette and the walls on the side of the roof could be one of those options.
I hope there will be desserts:) AND fishing :D
Cant wait for more :D
basically 3d tribal rimworld. love it
There wouldn't really be any use to this idea but have you thought about having family trees along with relationships?
Love the game and how it’s coming out.
That would be awesome if you could name landmarks that your tribe conquered, like bays, mountains, penninsulas, etc. Idk if you could do this but that would be cool
When do you predict Sapiens will be done? 2020?
He said late 20 to early 21
this game is going to be dope
Good stuff as always. Really enjoy watching your progress. Counter to food abundance is threat/risk/reward. Wildlife and difficult/dangerous terrain that slows things down. Also curious if you'll be adding a temperament attribute. Mixing leadership with temperament can then be applied to how the entire tribe acts and handles encounters with other tribes and situations. If leadership in the tribe is aggressive, then the tribe leans more aggressive and people in the tribe grow more aggressive with age. Since kids can come with a variety of temperaments, you can sway tribe behavior subtly over time. Assuming the tribe interactions will come into play at some point, yeah?
Akesi is a stud
If I am not mistaken, there have existed tribes of people (and still do) that believed that if a woman would mate with a few men then every man she had been with was the cilds father. This point of view is likey to make it so that every child is much safer and pretty much guarranteed to learn a handfull of important skills from their fathers.
So by having this system you talked about, you have basically made each community in the game follow that believe ;) or at least I like to look at it that way haha, a bit of a plausable lore, or background information :)
Tribal wars and internal conflict and a leader
Hi this looks great
an idea I have is that if the people only eat one type of food they won't be as happy if there was plenty of options
Ey that’s pretty cool
Might I suggest a sliding scale for relationships so you either start on the left or middle (depending on if you have plans to add negative relations) and shows visually how much they like that person. Better than a screen of numbers, I think.
If food collection is too easy, introduce mice and mould.
Could you make it so you can save and place structures? Like you could build a house, save it, and then place several copies of that house? I think that later on in the game when the tribe gets much larger it would take way to much time having to build 100 houses, and I think being able to save things you built would help a lot with that.
I also think this would help a lot with creativity and maybe people could share things they built on the steam workshop?
I really like your idea, it could even make it so that you can share your builds with other players via the steam workshop.
These saplings are quite cute :P
Send this out to lets game it out when your done
Next Video Title: "I planted 20m trees in Sapiens for Team Trees"
I know you probably don’t want ideas and want it to be your deal, that’s perfectly fine, but what if you had, with that nomad thing you were talking about, traveling or wandering lone nomads with ideas or discoveries that help you advance and maybe this makes him more powerful or might make you fail making him an outcast. Just an idea I had
Make the trees take even longer to bear fruit and make the fruit decay fast without the right conservative tools. Perhaps have some unfarmable edible roots and mushrooms pop up in different? seasons
That said it's looking really good!
Nice man you should add a bunch of model variations for trees
If it weren't too taxing of an idea, I would think if you had denser vegetation it would benefit the aesthetics tremendously.
I'm really excited to see how you address building/waning relationships within and without tribes. Perhaps it's some combination of personality traits for each Sapien (similar to the Sims) and the 'usefulness' of the Sapien to the tribe - for example, a Sapien with a Friendly personality trait and lots of skills is going to be more popular (aka build relationships faster) than one that's Standoffish and doesn't have a lot of skills...?
Many months ago I saw this game, I watched quite a-lot of dev logs and was really excited, but I kinda got bored and stopped watching it, I thought of this game trying to think of the name, I was like, "Oh! It's *STAPIENS* " I was so close to getting it right, anyways, I don't know if I will be watching more of theses, even if I don't that doesn't mean I'm not excited for the game anymore, I still am, just not as much as before.
So a question popped up in my head, and I know you are no where near being done with the game, so if this idea ever comes to the game, it won't be till a very long time. But I was think about other planets too? Anyways, looks like you have done an absolutely amazing job on this game! Made so much progress, I am so excited for the release of this game, have a nice day!
ImmaSnarl other planets is out of scope for Sapiens 1, maybe Sapiens 2/3
I suggest that the tribes would grow into world empires?
How many different early animal species will you have in the game? Hundreds or thousands? So much potential
This looks really fun to play but... Where are the Mammoths?
This game is looking great! When you send out for alpha testing would you be considering content creators for testers? I would love to see some people playing the game!
Just wondering how many people can you have in one tribe? Once you have loads of food to keep all tribe mates happy and well fed just how far can you grow your population?
I'm not sure yet, it depends a lot on how fast I can keep everything running. But I've focused on performance all the way, and my goal is to have at least a hundred or so sapiens per player-controlled tribe. I can't promise that of course, and more would be even better, but we'll have to wait and see how it goes.
These videos are really interesting. Have you considered going a bit more in-depth in some extra videos where you go into code, problems you've had in the code and how you solved it?
You developed The Block Heads? That game was my childhood!
It'd be awesome to catch some footage of play test sessions! Don't feel like you have narrate it or anything. It'd just be really cool to watch gameplay change from play test session to session.
On making food supply more difficult 11:00... What about letting the food rot over time so you can't store it forever. Perhaps letting other creatures (mice, deers or rabbits) steal the food.
You could make that you cant plant apple trees either as often or too close nearby . Or that an apple tree can only produce a set amount of apples before it dies.
Just an Idea!
Just take my money already!!
I have a suggestion for your food problem: in general animals cant eat the same food every single day and eat nothing else, they need variety for nutrients. So is it possible to make them less likely to eat the apples over time? Also can you make the apples themselves rot over time?
Anyone remember the blockheads...
2 days ago! COME on youtube, why have you not told me earlier...
Is this going to be kinda like a 3d tribal Rimworld? Looks great so far
Are you going to be making the different trees segregated? Because right now it seems like all the trees are just randomly placed among each other which isn’t super natural. PS love to watch you work on this cool game!
Ryan Bielecki you ever been in the woods? There’s more than one type of tree
@@houstonhampton2418 lol, kids don't go out side anymore man. Didn't you know that already😄
will there be an upper limit? I mean if the tribes keep growing, there'll theoretically be a bunch of people living in a huge town one day?