Star Trek: Picard Season 2, Episodes 6, 7, 8, and 9 - re:View
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- čas přidán 1. 05. 2022
- Rich and Mike both put on their adult diapers to sit down and discuss 4 of the last Star Trek Picard episodes before the season finale. With almost too much to talk about, the two men nearly have mental breakdowns. Rich realizes that his diaper is overflowing mid-shoot and ends up calling his home hospice nurse to come and care for him and bring him a lollypop. Mike needs CPR administered at one point, but then realizes he just needed more beer. Picard gets hit by a car driven by Brent Spiner (which was not written in the script). Many butterfly tears are shed as the once great character of Jean Luc Picard it subjected to the worst writing and plotting in a television series since the live action adult rated late nice Cinemax erotic Smurfs series.
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The fact that Whil Wheaton has been shilling as hard as he physically can for this show since day 1 and he's the only cast member not invited back for season 3 will never not be funny to me.
While that is laugh at out loud funny, he is a paid actor for Picard. His role is to shill. You have to be an actor to sell this crap as gold.
@@logicplague2077 He's qualified for the Upper Decks.
He talks like he's in an infomercial trying to sell the Slap-Chop 9000. It's just so laughably over the top.
I don't watch this but they could have at least revisited Wesley's story once; as annoying as some found his character in TNG, he did have an arc and it might have been interesting to see what became of child genius Wesley Crusher - probably like a lot of high-functioning early geniuses, down in the gutter with the rest of us when they hit adulthood. That might have been something else to do, over this nonsense.
@@shugaroony They could have included him easily. In the books Wesley becomes a Traveler. Wesley could have been the mysterious time dude Guinan introduces him too. Thank Christ they didn't do that.
Hearing Mike talk about how Picard has ruined old Trek for him was actually really sad. The man's favourite show in the whole world that he always talked about with such enthusiasm can't bring him joy anymore
I know, that really stung. :( I might not have been a Star Trek fan but I Loved to hear Mike talk about it.
It made me feel all the feels. I CRIED ACTUAL BUTTERFLIES AND RAINBOWS
@@markbisone6169 BANNED BY ALEX KLUTZMAN
I'm not there with the series overall, but damn if this hasn't ruined my feelings on Picard as a captain. Just knowing what Patrick Stewart actually wanted to do instead of the Picard we got is pretty damn stark. It's hard to feel that same love for Picard even in TNG knowing all this.
All things have to die.
Mike's monologue is greater than anything Akiva Goldsman has ever written.
how far akiva "What killed the dinosaurs?" goldsman has fallen.
And also Akiva Goldsman is obviously snorting a lot of coke 😐
It really was though, poetic
This is the only way I'll watch anything woke and yes Mike's delivery is truly Oscar worthy. I tried watching Strange New World's and as soon as Pike's Grand Daughter said " My security clearance is higher then yours." I felt myself do an eye roll. She's to young and inexperienced in my view to already have security clearance higher then Captain Pike's especially in these early days of the Federation where you would think some experience matters. I sound knit picky sure but I like a pinch of logic even in fun nonsense or it takes me out of that imagitive universe. I know this is suppose to be about Picard but Strange New World's was my last attempt to take Star Trek seriously-except the older stuff The Original and Next Gen. I only really liked Quark from Deep Spice Nine but all the old stuff is still a master piece compared to STD and Picard. Like an idiot I had believed we would get one new good Star Trek eventually but I must be suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.
"Three-time Razzie nominee (worst screenplay) Akiva Goldsman", you mean...
Give him the respect he's due, y'all.
Never been happier to be a Stargate fan. We get absolutely nothing and I love it
Not for long, Amazon is trying to come up with new shows
Yeah... what Orange just said... Imagine Rings of Power but in Stargate form.... it s coming.
Who needs more? We have like 10 seasons worth of SG-1, pure unadulterated American propaganda baby
did you see Stargate Origins? It has 3.9 on Imdb. I didn't even know Imdb ratings could go that low.
@@bendailey6950 Because it's about a character that no one cares about. A character that got like 10 minutes of screen time in the original show. Baffling choice for a show.
By Rich forcing Mike to watch season 2 of Picard he has ruined one thing Mike holds dear to his heart. Rich Evans has finally got his revenge for years of abuse.
It's not abuse if it's the elderly, just ask your lawyer!
You know Mike is truly sad when he doesn't add fart noises to Rich in the edit
@@garfself Rich lost his sanity long ago when Mike forced him to role-play a gay fireman.
Jay wins in the end. If Mike stops watching Star Trek, then overtime he'll forget the details and Mike will no longer bring up Star Trek in HitB or BotW.
@Bronlonious Until Paramount+ comes out with "Ghost Adventures: Bagans"
Now that Mike is too depressed to even acknowledge the existence of Star Trek, it's time for Jay to challenge him to another Star Trek trivia showdown. Strike now while his shields are down!
This is a Last Jedi situation.. Jay is too dumb to attack at the right time at the right place..
(Kharn theme intensifies)
And have all the questions be only about Picard and STD
@@sneakyking Jay: "I'm laughing at the 'superior intellect.'"
Jay keeps buzzing in and guessing wrong answers. Mike just stands there, silent and motionless, with a thousand yard stare.
I cackled out loud thinking of Picard waking up saying "I've had the most FUCKED UP dream!" That scene is cannon as far as I'm concerned. In my head.
Out of character for TNG Picard but easily in character for ST:P Picard
There's that one episode where he lived 40 years in a few minutes because of an ancient alien space probe....
Hearing Rich Evans sympathize with Star Wars fans after watching Star Trek rot from inside and seeing its corpse danced around for every penny they can get is a bitter sweet catharsis.
Agreed
Jay's now experienced it with the Exorcist. It's all fun and games till its ur favorite things turn.
Rich calling Picard a “show for dumb people to feel smart for watching” is perhaps the most accurate assessment of modern Star Trek as a whole
Big Bang Theory did that successfully, so they figured they'd try with this, too. Only more swearing, because "edgy".
So it's a show for the woke left TikTok generation.
@@stanley13579 "but the jokes are scientifically accurate!!" So? That doesn't make them funny! Ugh i hated that show, but the defenders of it were the worst!
@@axelhopfinger533 no
@@axelhopfinger533
And they’re not even watching it 😂
I’ve only known one person under the age of 35 who’s into Star Trek and he was as far from being on the left as you can imagine
The torture has ruined them so much that Rich is wearing a Christmas sweater out of season, and something has happened to Mike's fringe.
the fringe is just to protect what's left of mike's brain.
Or Mike’s bangs for us Americans 😀
He's wearing the Christmas sweater to remind him of the time of the year when suicide rates are at their peak, because that's more joyful than the absolute state of Star Trek
Mikes lookin like emo band member circa 1990
You must be foreign to Milwaukee 🤭
The zoom in on the writer rubbing his ‘coke nose’ was both brilliant and explains everything.
They must have changed the formula, because in the 80's, coke produced some really great films and television programs
@@whompronnie Don't forget entire musical genres!
If he was on coke, this show would be a lot more interesting than it is.
@@ManOutofTime913Not if your dealer is Kurtzman
Happens at 34:09 for anyone wondering
I want season 3's re:View to just be Jay and Josh talking about how much they loved it.
In Straightjackets, with the orderlies standing next to them.
I wish I could tell you that season 3 was great and that they loved it. I wish I could tell you that, but the writers still just don't know what they're doing.
Nah, they would despise it for entirely different reasons.
I could see Jack alone rambling to himself about how much he likes it or something.
Actually I think this is a pretty great idea, have the non-Star Trek fans of the RLM crew review season 3 so it'd be unbiased when they also conclude it's a train-wreck from a non-trekie perspective. That way the excuse of "old-trekie fans just not liking new trek because it's different" can't really be said.
Jesus christ this made me spit my coffee
"Secular Blasphemy" is possibly Rich's best Richism to date. He's like a modern Mark Twain.
It really is fantastic. "Emotional Star Trek is secular blasphemy" explains it in a nutshell. I feel that could be expanded to cover the whole slate of modern sci fi, from the Star Wars sequels to things like Another Life.
Where sci fi has succeeded (The Expanse, Arrival, Ex Machina, Devs, Severance, Annihilation), it doesn't ignore that humans are emotional animals, but it's more (or at least, as much) interested in its core concepts as it is the emotional stuff.
The balance in a lot of things has been completely skewed.
What is the first one? Coupon shot? Edit: Well, I read it wrong. I don't know why I saw "Rich's second best..." New star trek probably broke my brain.
He also invented a new profession. Barberer
It'd be a great heavy metal band name
I would have to agree here. It is glorious!
"My mother hung herself..." despite the fact that in TOS they cured mental illness and in TNG Picard had a photo of his mother as an old woman. He also spoke with a phantom version of her as an old woman, as if she were perfectly recognizable as his mother. Also, he's right about the hung/hanged thing.
As an educated Englishman, Stewart should know better. I can only imagine they put 'hung' in the script and he didn't bother to object.
i feel like theres arguments to be had about the tos curing mental illness thing like we understand now that mental illness is a very complicated issue with a lot of facets and i fully love the idea of a world where theres no mental illness and we can just exist and be happy and not torture ourselves but i would like to see that interrogated someday
of course it wont be interrogated by these writers because they didnt watch the show
TOS abandoned the idea that they had cured mental illness immediately after that episode. There were episodes later in the very same series which people were noted to be mentally ill and no mention of the cure was made. The continuity issues are hardly new.
ST:Picard addresses the vision of his mother in TNG by saying he would often imagine her as an old woman. The phantom image is clearly portrayed as a physical manifestation of Picard's imagination. That's like the whole premise of that episode. So, if he's just imagining it, it's reasonable that he would recognize her as his mother, despite the fact that she never reached that age.
ST:Picard is not a great show. It's pretty dumb. But these pointless canon complaints are pretty much the dumbest criticism of the show.
By curing they ment the ones caused by brain damage, which they do, for example in one of the voyager episode
@@mockturtlesuppe Bro he literally has her old lady photo in his photo album.
It's way sadder than the death of a friend. It's seeing your friend live with dementia; he doesn't remember who you are and who he was.
Will Wheaton could easily be part of the cast for the Nerd Crew podcast.
Nerd Crew looks more accurate every year.
He wouldn't even understand that they're being ironic, he'd just be ecstatic that he found 3 other people just like him
Red Alert!
Wil Wheaton legitimately acting as if he is taking part in RLMs nerd crew parody is hilarious and sad at the same time.
Naah... The feeling is cringe and disgust. Not sadness.
That Wil Wheaton looks like he's made in a lab. I know it's his job, but to be this fake enthusiastic about true garbage like this.
I couldn't do it.
You have to be empty behind the eyes for that stuff.
He didn’t pass auditions…
@@MisteRRYouTuby I don't know, I don't think he could have made the show even worse. And we all know it's not quality they are looking for anyway.
There needs to be a long German compound word about the pain of having to witness Will Wheaton
Wesley Crusher IRL 30 years later managed to be more annoying than his character on the show.
He finally achieved something.
I didn't like Wesley... like everyone else. I ignored Wil Wheaton too, but this Wil makes me want to punch him in the face. Watching his joyous overacting about a show that is (like Mike feels) destroying all of Star Trek for me... it's worse than the show itself.
Careful, he may have some sort of debilitating disease like Bruce Willis
He’s in serious need of a good, hard “shut up Wesley!”
Still desperately searching for Patrick's approval I guess.
Transcript of Mike's speech:
Time is something you wish you could reverse, the things you see in the scars left on your soul.
We wish we could backtrack them all into the infinite cosmos of time.
Time echoes, like a butterfly’s wings, when we see that change us as the people we once were; but, will soon become or grow into.
If we reverse the time into our lives, we have to recognize the moments that we share with each other now are priceless, and if we rake those moments in time and we appreciate and love them and truly realize that when we look up at the night sky and see the stars as they are, those stars once were different stars and we realize in here, we become something new.
I like to think the speech starting off as something approaching prose before turning into a grammar destroying run on sentence was intentional
All of it is so true!! I cried butterfly tears!
Thank you so much for transcribing this!
It’s actually quite beautiful
@@alanpods2then you should watch star trek Picard, it's filled with monologues like this
I have literally no words. I'm getting goosebumps.
"He was hit by a car...Not a Science Fiction beam" made burst out laughing
I love hearing "We won't be watching season 3", it brings back fond memories of them saying "We won't be watching season 2".
It's like poetry: it rhymes
I hope they continue this series tbh. I enjoy their suffering.
Haha, I thought that too, but he didn't give a speech at the end about a part of his life/soul being crushed. I think this might be karma for all the crap he gives Rich and Jay.
Considering that they’re bringing back the entire TNG cast out of sheer desperation (except for Wil Wheaton lol,) they’re going to be forced into watching season 3 just to see how big of a dumpster fire it’s going to be.
@@biggielittle1384 This time, it will be Jay forcing both of them to watch it.
“There are some people who don’t watch Star Trek… they just listen to us talk about it.”
That’s me! He’s talking about me!!
I CLAPPED WHEN HE SAID THAT!!!
I think we're trekkies now
I KNOW WHAT THAT IS
Yet we’re all bigger Trek fans than Alex Kurtzman
AT ST AT ST!
@@jashm3915 uuuuuuuuggggghhhhhhhh
I have never watched a single episode of Picard but have watched every single one of Rich and Mike’s Picard videos multiple times. I think this was the way to go
I'm split between wanting new trek to not exist because of what it's doing to star trek and loving watching Rich and Mike hate it
I've seen picard season 1 only bc my mom made me watch it with her. It's as bad as they say
Same
At this point I'm watching Picard just to stay up to date with these
Mike said, in no uncertain terms, that his ability to ever go back and enjoy TNG has been destroyed. This is precisely why, after watching the first two episodes of Picard season one, I chose to stop. I had learned my lessons from Star Wars. Thanks for taking one for the team Mike. I'm sorry that had to happen. Perhaps hypnotherapy and time will help cure this, or maybe binge-watching two seasons of The Orville.
I watched the first 2 episodes and didn´t feel like watching Star Trek ("sheer fuckin hubris"). So i thought i will watch it later, maybe i just need some time to adjust.
Then the reviews came in and suddenly i knew what my problem was: This is not MY Star Trek. Like Discovery. MY Star Trek is a future i would want to live in. A Utopia. An ideal, a goal for humanity to strive for. New Trek is a garbage fire to gather around to escape the cold.
So i never started again. But the reviews are fun. And the Orville is, too.
I wish that I did the same but instead I watched the entire first season hoping that it would improve.... Although I've ignored season 2 and gave up on the other New Trek shows, I'd say its greatly tarnished TNG and to an extend DS9 as well as Voyager for me. Although not unwatchable its lost its shine and I have to actively block out Picard. Kinda like someone taking a hump on a new Couch, although the stain is gone it'll never exactly be the same again.
i never started. i learned from game of thrones. i was reading those books before the series and the series seemed so awesome and then, in the end, ruined the whole experience. i knew to not even start picard, like so many other things these days. ive basically given up on anything new.
Nothing can tarnish TNG
This is the reason I didn't watch any episode of Picard. I had enough watching the first season of STD. The mere existence of these shows is the proof of the creative bankruptcy of tv studios.
Mike's "Stand By Me" comparison had more genuine emotion behind it than anything Alex Kurtzman could write.
It applies to virtually every beloved IP in the current year
@@smirking8457 Yup pretty much how I feel with Halo right now lol
I legit felt bad for Mike, especially this time around, he's watched the whole thing burn right infront of him, so you could tell his analogy was at least heartfelt, it's how you know they cared (at one point lmao)
Stuff like this is why I feel lucky to have no real attachment to any brands or franchises. Closest I can personally ever got to the feeling was when Capcom bodied all of the _Mega Man_ series for like three years and when Overlord Disney was trying to deemphasize and even kill off the X-Men when FOX still held the rights, and even then both of those things mostly righted themselves. (R.I.P. _Mega Man Legends 3_ though, and unfortunately Disney still owns Marvel as a whole.)
I imagine that saying the feeling fucking sucks is a vast understatement. Reminds me of the vague sympathy I had for _Star Wars_ fans when Disney was ravaging that series.
You know.....when no food is present, as a last ditch effort, pelican mothers will stab themselves with their beak so that their children can drink their blood for nourishment. Thank you Mike and Rich for being our pelicans.
Is next season going to be ST: Pelican?
Not true but, the thought counts
Our state flag in Louisiana is actually based on that, funny enough. Thanks to Rich and Mike for watching this garbage so we don’t have to.
They don't actually do that, it's a myth, but yeah like Lawrence said: it's the thought that counts.
Your example is for the birds.
Picard with his robot body (basically Data's body) gets hit by a car (where the car should lose), is taken to a doctor instead of a mechanic or engineer... They beam down the appropriate 'brain tool' to help Picard, and instead of one of the trained officers using the device they hand it over to the doctor who has no clue what that device does. Which is like handing a defibrillator to a plague doctor and expecting him to know how it works.
And also gets a mind meld. Either they retconned how androids work, or they retconned Picard being a robot, or both, or they don't care; or all of the above.
He's not an Android like Data he's an Android more like replicants in Bladerunner, biologically indistinguishable from humans.
@@RichardBarclay Then he's not an android! Replicants aren't androids!
@@Shockblock99 remind me they name of the book that Bladerunner is based on?
@@RichardBarclay Have you read it? Blade Runner barely resembles it.
@@PraxesArdenn yes I have and the main crux of the movie, that androids are indistinguishable from humans, is present in the book.
Mike's impressions of Picard's rambling emotional monologues are better than every single scene of Star Trek: Picard.
Remember, Wil Wheaton is the guy on Twitter who raged that he wasn't Wesley and his life didn't revolve around Star Trek. Then someone added a zero to a check and it's all different. Patrick Stewart said bringing back Picard would be tiresome and boring, but then they added two zeros to his check... and it's all different.
Wil Wheaton becoming the Howdy Doody for Star Trek: Picard is poetic.
For Wheaton, it's (D)ifferent.
Wheaton has always been a complete clown. However, this whole production just exposed him as the entire circus that he truely is
I keep forgetting that's Will Wheaton and I keep asking myself, who's the douche in the suit with the annoying voice.....ooohhh.
The contrast of Rich and Mike’s overlapping and dreary dialogue with Will Wheaton’s overly forced enthusiasm is putting me on an emotional path that I have not yet traveled
You're boldy going where no one has gone before.
@@OptimusN1701 boldy going where no one ever should go.
I thought it was just my phone not syncing the audio properly :/
So I guess you haven't watched Picard season 2. 😂
Let's see Will's enthusiasm when he has to react to season 3, the only "main" cast member to not be invited back to be on the show.
Editing Wheaton overreacting to everything during the intro was HILARIOPOUS
16:50 Rich's quiet smile when Mike simply mentions "The Next Generation", as if he's looking back at a beautiful life that was once lived
Mike and Rich then: Picard Season 2 isn’t too bad so far!
Mike and Rich now: *There is nothing but pain.*
The fires of hell burning harder than S1.
I knew their sliver of hope was foolish.
We need a fan-edit. Picard minus Picard. Just like with Garfield. I think this would be hilarious ... going unnoticed by many.
It's basically a stock that always goes down. short that stock
I mean, they already knew that it was going to get this bad. They were just surprised it didn't completely start off that way.
I never thought the day would come when I'd see "the whole TNG cast are reuniting for a new Star Trek season" and just feel my stomach turn at the thought of it.
The only way I’d be excited about it is if the hired brannon braga or Ronald d Moore
It's such a shame. I would absolutely love to see all these actors together on screen again. But not as written by this show's writers.
They'll all get to direct their own episodes. Lol it's gonna be hot trash
I can only imagine Michael Dorn, Gates McFadden and the others watch that garbage fire and say: "Wait, can we get a paycheck, too? And can Wheaton go screw himself?"
@@Parallelwurlds Dude, I would take fucking Rick Berman and his wallpaper music back at this point. Just put RIck Berman back in charge. Please.
44:33 Is honestly one of the heartbreaking things I’ve ever heard. Having watched and rewatched every RLM program regularly since 2015 and gained an uncanny knowledge of Star Trek (something I’ve absorbed maybe an episode of in my entire life otherwise) through Mike Stoklasa and now hearing him say that it’s been dirtied in a way he can’t recover from leaves me deeply, unfathomably saddened.
At least season 3 healed that wound by miraculously Being good. Against all odds
Wil Wheaton literally feels like a character from Galaxy Quest.
This is the only way I will watch Picard
Have you passed out trying to listen to all of this yet?
Agreed
I've only ever experienced Picard, Discovery, and most of Disney's Star Wars through Mike and Rich's depressing reviews.
I support RLM and the Party Line ✊
If Picard would have been on TikTok, I'm sure Papa Gundam would have reviewed it.
Wil Wheaton plays such a convincing villain in these Star Trek: Picard reviews.
My phone has started to autocorrect his name to Shill Wheaton. I don't know if I should be amused or concerned, since this show taught me AI is the big evil.
He's just happy to get paid.
lmao
@@burgertim7878 I'm not sure if it's just wishful thinking or projection on my part, but something about that horrible rictus grin and forced 110% enthusiasm he's got going on make me think he's hated every second of the new show and he's dying inside through every second of the promo material. I think Will Wheaton comes off as kind of an ass at times, but he's always struck me as someone with a genuine love of and appreciation for TNG.
Wil Wheaton, trying vainly to convey genuine enthusiasm, "There are Five Lights"; knows those emotions are disingenuous.
I hope your next review opens with Rich hooked up to life support.
Mike just looks at Rich and says "So, Rich! You watched the Picard Season 2 Finale, I see."
Honestly, it wasn't that bad. And Strange New Worlds is a goddamn revelation.
and i'd like to remind you that it's your fault.
@@warmlycalculated390 honestly it was that bad. The Q hug scene made me throw up then Wesley made me end it all. I’m sending you this message from beyond the grave
Wilburgur! We need more vids
@@Emperorhirohito19272 I mean, it wasn't good but I didn't feel the desire to self-harm as I did during some of those mid-season eps.
Mike's Stand By Me heartbreaking analogy is how I feel about Star Wars since the Last Jedi.
I feel his pain.
_"How does it feel to have lived long enough to see all your franchises go down in flames?"_
_"Feels great"._
Great like the Great War or depression. Those were the days.
Babylon 5 is getting a reboot and Amazon just bought Stargate so we're not done yet.
@@brandonlink6568 why are we sent here? Just to suffer?
@@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 the lesson to be learned here is never enjoy anything because it will eventually be ruined by greedy executives.
@@brandonlink6568 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo......................
“New Trek is the dumbest writing that has ever been committed to paper.”
- Rich Evans, who also watched Ryan’s Babe
Bold of you to assume Ryan's babe had an actual script
@@1skulldan To be fair, the fact that there is a distinct possibility of retconning the first two seasons into being a fever dream should indicate Picard doesn’t have a real script either.
(Comment edited for clarity, unlike the show)
Ryan's Babe, unironically, had a stronger premise than Picard. Whether it had an actual written script is debatable, but the superior premise is without question
I'd rather watch Ryan's Babe.
Ryan's Babe is fucking Casablanca compared to this visual gonorrhea.
35:29 - Setting a tag for myself because I will be back here for Mike's sarcastic Picard speech for years to come
Thanks, I just needed it myself.
Props to Jay or whoever edits the videos for putting up with Will Wheaton's shilling enough to find clips to edit in.
I think back to a young, wistful Mike Stoklasa who thought Star Trek: Generations was such a departure from the true TNG that he launched a review series and character that changed film criticism on the internet forever.
That’s a great point!
I've always loved GENERATIONS the photography is beautiful. The dialogue and pacing is poor but I've still liked it.
@@TheGava4 Generations and First Contact were dumb, but I could still watch them again and the characters still acted appropriate for the most part. I'd watch them both before Star Trek V again.
Insurrection was abominable. I ignore it entirely.
Nemesis just felt tired. It doesn't feel very 'Star Trek' and the pacing is bizarre, but I guess I could watch it again if someone else really wanted to for whatever reason.
Considering his old age, I don't think he was young
Hw needs to re-watch TMP so he can retain some love for ST (old version)
Mike's bullshit speech with Rich's ghost floating over his shoulder was a thing of beauty.
It’s sad now, I’m 36 and I get far more entertainment, humor, and sense of direction watching movie and television show reviews then watching the shows in the movies them selves. Thank you gentlemen for going through the hell that none of us really want to anymore and providing us with some sort of entertainment. You are the true heroes and you deserve no medals.
I love all of the Will Wheaton cuts, they're so excruciating (and the long cut of seemingly the entire cast dramatically downing shots in every scene, so good).
This was the saddest video Redlettermedia has every released. “What was once magical to me…is no more”
This one plus the Shatner fight which you could see gutted Mike. This was the final nail.
"I have dreamed a dream, but now that dream is gone from me."
@@robertx1603 what Is this Shatner fight you guys talk about
+Casey Smith Check out the vid Mike Stoklasa A Star Wars Story by Plumwax
"Fate, it seems, is not without a sense of irony." -- It took both franchises' writing crews nuking them into oblivion, but maybe now from the ashes the Star Trek and Star Wars fandom can finally move on. I guess this is what growing old means - your heroes eventually let you down. May the 4th be with us all - live long and prosper!
Mike's ending note on being done with Star Trek was a real punch to the gut. Damn.
I made the same decision last week. I’m going to watch next week, only because it’ll irritate me if I don’t watch the last episode, but then, that’s it, I’m done. Deleting my subscription, and never watching anything by Kurtzman or Abrams ever again.
@@dominicmarazita6058 You could even say his journey to the Dark Side is complete.
@@aldunlop4622 you’ll be back for Strange New Worlds
@@SenorBigDong69 nah,I’m officially done. I’ll wait 10 years and hope the franchise moves on to someone who actually cares about it.
@@aldunlop4622 sure buddy, I’ll keep a seat open for you anyway
“Emotional garbage” “secular blasphemy” 100% truth.
Rich is unironically the backbone of RLM
I felt more for Mike during his Stand by Me metaphor than I did for any character in either season of Picard.
Hit me right in the feels too😥
“Secular Blasphemy” this is the quote of the century. Bless what is left of Rich’s soul. I’m dying here 😂
I mean, if you've seen how totalitarian politics work, there's a reason they call the culture around many dictators a "cult of personality".
I love the concept and impact of this term very much, and I only have to consider how to use it wisely.
The more I live the more I realize the grinch and squidward are right.
I totally respect the "done with Trek" ending. But as a silly selfish leech of a fan. I'd love to see conversations about DS9 similar to the TNG set of reviews.
Might be a nice palate cleanser after seeing Jean Luc driven into the fucking ground
They really need to go through DS9, VOY, and ENT. I’d especially like VOY so they can hate on the episodes I hate, and deep dive into character studying Seven and the Doctor.
Man I love when Mike and Rich watch something they despise and talk about it
@@Xavier_Coogat_the_Mambo_King Well I just love listening to people’s criticisms, whether they’re repetitive or not.
Can't wait for the Obi Wan Kenobi show
outsourcing
Especially when I haven't watched a second of it
@@RiposteBK you think it will be bad?
I'm genuinely sad that Star Trek has been ruined for Mike. I could tell Rich was genuinely concerned for Mike too.
Rich is a great actor.
i mean if you can't seperate a show you love from what 40 years ago from a new show that's completely different with new hack writers i don't feel bad
@@nameynamename3758 you just don’t care like Mike does.
Unlike Star Trek: Picard these reviews are infinitely rewatchable
Whenever Picard speaks his emotional platitudes, it sounds like Tim and Eric talking about the universe.
These guys have protected old Trek for me. I actually got emotional at Mike telling us he can't watch it any more.
I'm so sorry bro, your grief is real. We are all here for you.
It's truly, honestly, sad.
me too, even though Star Wars got screwed over for me as well, I've been able to avoid watching Picard, and luckily saved myself from Discovery after seeing the first season. I mean I see people excited for Strange New Worlds but I doubt it'll do much. Also I understand what Mike means when he sees Picard's face in TNG becuz honestly the way they ruined his character, and how Stewart himself ruined it for a cash-grab, definitely makes it hard to avoid being reminded of that
Let go of your emotional attachments. The globalists know you love these franchises. You must evolve past your childhood, become something harder
Rich evans is dancing funnily
He says “you know your phone camera is always looking at you”
“Can I have some water?” Asks Mike
Alice Barbara hands crossed with a frown stretched across her face tells mike sternly “no, you may not”
Mike had a few he’s probably parched he should have a drink I think it’s fucked up Alice Barbara won’t let him have a drink
After some deliberation they bring him a cup of water
This water tastes weird” Mike grunts
“That’s becuase it’s not water it’s alker
seltzer, get some rest” Alice Barbara says
Mike was deceived he thirsted for water
They gave him alka seltzer when he had asked for water and didn’t tell him what it was
Now Mike is cautious he doesn’t trust these secret agents now he wonders if it’s really alka seltzer or if that alka seltzer is only there to cover up a drug put into the drink to put him to sleep
He remembers her words “get some rest”
The fbi has drugged Mike Stocklossa his head grows light his eyelids grow heavy and he passes out
Rich is furious
His childhood friend is unconscious on the floor
He begins weeping
Jays eyes remain dry, not at all surprised by the drugging
I can hear Rich evans yell at the top of his lungs “it’s ALL TRUE”
I hear a beeping noise
A distinct “Clear!”
A defibrillator is pressed to mikes chest to resuscitate him
Mikes eyes open back up
Mike stocklosa says “my heart stopped…”
@@Chronz
ooookay then
don't OD on redpills alex jones
Feel so sad for Mike losing his best friend Star Trek. He loves it so much. It was like watching a child who just lost their dog. Sorry, Mike.
Getting roasted by William Shatner left a mark as well i guess ^^"
He's takin one for the team. The team Humanity.
He is paying the ultimate sacrifice so that ALL OF US could live with ourselves beyond the existence of Jar Jar Trek.
In a way, his suffering for our entertainment makes him the Jesus for the modern age.
Minus the whole lepers thing. Mike doesn't do lepers. Sorry lepers.
Have you tried less conventional solutions, like 20th century medicine?
I heard that those ancient healers had knowledge of powerful remedies called antyubeeyeoptiks.
I'm pretty certain that Picard's mother dying young is a continuity error. They sort of show her in TNG season 1. She pops into reality because everyone's thoughts are manifesting into reality because of the part of space they are in. Picard accidentally wills her into being and talks to her for a bit. She's shown to be an older woman.
It’s ok Picard is part of the kurtzmanverse
@@Emperorhirohito19272
Ugh!!!...
I think it's cute that you assume the writers watched TNG season 1
Star Trek Picard just isn't Canon. There's no good reason to consider it to be.
I don't remember if it is this batch or the finale but picard says that he often imagines her older with a tea set.
Mike should legit be a voice actor he has such range when hes not drunk
The man who continues to watch VHS tapes off the Wheel of the Worst, Plinketto Board, and black spine shelf has said "I'm done with Star Trek."
How embarrassing for Paramount.
Oof, that is the best and most sobering comment here so far
I don't watch any of those Best of the Worst episodes because they are awful and not fun. I only watch the ones with actual movies.
@@whom382 You're watching this and Picard isn't an actual movie.
I cannot watch this show anymore. Thank you for suffering through it so I don't have to.
EDIT: Mike's speech at the end actually made me feel sad. Wow, an actual emotion, something no nutrek has accomplished for me. I agree, let star trek die please.
Same here. Tbh, can't even watch the rest of the franchise anymore, it's just been pure disappointment since 2017.
I'd rather be subjected to 50 seasons of the Grey Leno Show if the alternative was watching a single episode of nu-Star Trek.
This show will make Gene Roddenberry SPEEEEEEN in his grave.
Its like someone has lifted our collective foreskins while we sleep and then forced fire ants underneath and then filmed our collective pain as we wake up and need to travel to the hospital.
I watched the first three episodes then couldnt stand anymore. As bad as season 1 was, there were at least a handful of decent moments that kept me watching through.
That Stand By Me analogy was both beautiful and heartbreaking.
Watching Star Trek Picard has been an experience like witnessing an old friend falling into a chaotic dementia. Thank you for sharing the pain.
Wil Wheaton is a living satire. Can’t believe he’s a real person
He's not. That's the ESH - Emergency Shill Hologram
He's not
He has no personality, he is so deeply insecure that he is jumping into ideology to fill that void.
"Secular blasphemy" is the most concise term I have ever heard, not just for Star Trek, but for *all* of these beloved franchises that have been destroyed before our eyes. Absolutely brilliant.
Terminator, alien, ghost busters, star wars to name a few. RIP original, quality content.
I like to call it "cultural vandalism"
@@camdflage Halo, for some of us who like video games.
Doctor Who under Chibnall's current run
@@camdflage I will respectfully disagree a little here. A lot of the franchises mentioned above never really were franchises, or at least not "successful" long lasting ones as we'd understand it. They are one (or two or at most three) popular and successful movies that quickly spawned worse content. Like the 2016 Ghostbusters movie was bad but I can't really see how it "ruined the franchise" when the second movie was panned and Ghostbusters was otherwise a Saturday morning cartoon that got cheap and bad very quickly.
Star Trek is a bit different because it had five different television series with 28 combined seasons, plus however many movies. It was a thing that had its ups and downs and its innovations, but had its core outlook and value system, and it absolutely *worked*. But then ever since 2008 or whatever CBS I guess just decided to throw absolutely all of that out the window, and has been surprised that the results have been so bad. Like, the formula is *right there*.
I donated to ICE after this
I love how Rich is just sitting back after Mikes monologue. He knows hes still a Star Trek guy, 100%
What I thought during Mike's monolgue;
He just kept talking and talking, moving from topic to topic so that no one had a chance to interrupt him. It was quite hypnotic.
Perfect!
I couldn't help but hear the Picard Song while reading that
@@Johnny-rx4hs aaaaaaaand now i'll be hearing it for the next couple of days
Not only is that an apt quote, but it's a good example of the kind of charisma that Picard and the other characters had in TNG that is completely absent in New Trek.
My new ASMR.
I am convinced that any average, life long fan of Star Trek could produce a far superior version of Picard. Like literally go to any convention and pick the first person with Spock ears and make them the show runner.
It's amazing to think of it that way, but you're right.
Doesn't that show exist already? Because what you're describing sounds a lot like "The Orville" to me.
To be fair i was in a few star trek ttrpg session and gms always make stories like this
As cheesy as the fan production Star Trek Continues could be, you could just tell they loved the material and understood the characters implicitly. The dumbasses in charge now, obviously could obviously care less about the legacy of the franchise and what it means to people.
So true that one could make the case that it is a deliberate act of cultural demoralization.
It's 1am, I'm having an existential dread anxiety attack, with very dark thoughts entering my mind. This video is literally saving my life, making me feel better and curing my mental health issues. Thank you Mike and Rich for your sacrifice watching Picard
A lot of us go through these problems Charno, you'll be okay. Just take one moment at a time.
Rich's laugh makes miracles happen.
Hope you're doing OK. God bless.
Rich Evans said “I.C.E. plot” again and I wanted Mike to grill him about it, but it’s clear Mike is fried too. Anyway, this is where I’m at with Star Wars, so even though I don’t know the first thing about Trek, I feel their pain.
"Grief the final frontier. These are the traumas of the Star Trek writing crew. Their continuing mission, To explore painful old memories, to seek out old wounds and old miseries. To lamely go where their therapist recommended they go."
Omg.
(Theme played entirely out of farts)
to quote the intro to an amazing star trek RPG stream("Star Track" by the Courtesy Flush, featuring Tex of Tex Talks BattleTech as the captain who delivers said intro); "...Yes, we collect space garbage..."
the random cuts to Wil Wheaton shilling are an amazing piece of editing that really drills home how soulless this show is.
*Trying to imagine the reality where Will Wheaton has a soul.
@@Kyle-sr6jm hey, he has mental issues (he is open about it) and supports a family. We all have to make a living. He is not responsible for the train wreck of new Trek, he just needs work.
It's Shill Wheaton.
For some reason this reminds me of Mike asking all those questions about Prometheus, which is still one of my favourite RLM videos
Wasn’t that for the Covenant? And Jay too. That was a great video!
You know, I've noticed that Mike doesn't do many "remember when in Star Trek" breakaways anymore. Now we know why.
But mainly because of STP.
Now he's only got Ghost Adventures
Oh god it’s true. That makes me so sad.
Well I mean, why would this show make you think of real Star Trek?
"Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter" - Alex Kurtzman
And the laughter of thirsting executives.
"... and the laughter of thirsting showrunners"
If the show ends with the corpse of Picard wired to a golden throne I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest.
THE EMPEROR PROTECTS
“Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh….You cannot escape your doom. Your words are as empty as your future. I am the Vanguard of your destruction. This exchange is over.”
Wait, wrong sci-fi…
The United Earth Directerive
The Stand By Me analogy put a lump in my throat.
Mike’s monologue perfectly put into words why I stopped caring about Star Wars. I was mad after TLJ but by the point Rise of Skywalker came I had just stopped giving a shit.
I think the thing that pissed me off the most was when Raffi told Seven that "It was okay to be a Borg." As if she needed someone to tell her that. As if she didn't spend several seasons on Voyager exploring that side of herself, and deciding for herself that it was okay to be what she was.
As progressive as this show claims itself to be, its shockingly not.
Bold of you to assume the writers watched Voyager.
@@logicplague2077 Thank you for bringing that up. It always drives me fucking crazy when I hear about these shows being written by progressive types. These assholes are not progressive. If a vote to help people get better wages came up, these pieces of shit would vote it down because of the affect on their stock portfolio. These people are empty suits who only have moneyed interests. If being horrendous bigots was fashionable with the majority of society, this show would be full of cis white men blasting a rainbow coalition of borg.
That’s because the “writers” of this show have the perfect blend of stupidity and arrogance to think that they are the first ones to think of this stuff.
'You've spent your life running from this.' No she effing hasn't. She was frickin proud to be borg, thought she was better than mere humans for a long time. 'Of course I can do it, I'm Borg.' If they had confined it to the last twenty years, maybe. Like, she's wanted to be rid of it and fit in more, cuz toward the end of voyager that was a thing. So it might be a nitpick but it was like... one of many things with seven they screwed up. I shouldn't be surprised, but they barely talk about seven so I've been blissfully unaware until I read some articles this week. Mistake.
I mean if you really want to go a bit deeper, Voyager aloud 7 to realise she was neither human nor Borg any more and she had to discover what she really was and what role she had to play, much like Data discovering his role in the universe. I just don’t know what this show is trying to say…
Imagine writing a show so poorly that you literally give a previous fan an existential crisis.
Welcome to Star Wars.
We don't have to imagine
@@lovableasshole at least there's a couple good star wars shows though. it's actually pretty easy for me to pretend the sequel trilogy never happened because it's so incomprehensible, if you choose not to think about it, it's like nothing changed.
it starts in such a weird fake futureish version of the universe we ended with it might as well be an entirely different thing.
@@superfamilyallosauridae6505 the "good" star wars shows are just more overly complicated pits of references of nostalgia bait. Season one of the mandelorian had potential but the second ruined it by being almost nothing but tie ins to the animated series. Everything at this point is beating a dead horse and all the fans who don't know what a horse looks like when alive.
@@lovableasshole i know the boba show is trash. Season 1 of the mandalorian was good, yeah, and mostly what I was referencing. A shame, having not personally seen season 2 yet.
But none of it is quite the interdimensional insult picard, std, etc have been. I wouldn't even consider myself a major star trek fan, I just remember some really good TNG episodes my mom used to watch.
additionally, what's particularly grating is that patrick stewart actively participated and has a role in making this show as bad as it is. while, for instance, Mark Hamill voiced concerns several times over the garbage movies.
the star trek makers fully buys in to this day like the worst of when the sequel trilogy was coming out.
I laughed uncontrollably at "This is a big pile of diapers."
The Body analogy was so great and I feel like I can apply it to multiple shows that were at one point my favorites
Damn, when Mike said he can’t even watch it again with the “Stand by me” analogy, it broke my heart man. It’s not *just* that it was bad, but it hurt so deep that it broke the magical bond with a show that he has admired for years. Isn’t that like one of his favorite things?!
I really feel for people who still give a $H¡+
I really hope that was played up for laughs. That bit just wanted to make me want to give Mike a hug.
We're the same age and everything he's said about nuTrek is voicing what I feel but couldn't put into words.
However, I'm at peace. I realized that canon is what *I* decide. I'm the fan. I'm the consumer. I have that power. "Picard" is all a hallucination brought on by Picard's Irumodic Syndrome. None of this is actually happening. It's the peace I afford myself.
Jean-Luc is as we saw him in the future segments of All Good Things. He's finished out a great career. He's lying in a bed in his chateau, having these bad dreams but surrounded by friends as he breathes his last. It's all ok. None of the bad is real. No Borg Queen. No car chases. It's just him, slipping away. Into peace.
RIP
This was their goal all along. To destroy any hero’s that are left.
@@IVthHorseman That's really, really sweet man
@@IVthHorseman I feel the same way about Star Wars. If the people handling your franchise have no fucking clue on how the world works, or how characters act, or just deliberately go against all those things, it's nothing more than bad fan fiction. It doesn't deserve to be critically deconstructed, nor does it deserve your passion in the longterm, be it anger or sadness. Just hold the good stuff close and know there's millions of people, likely the vast majority of the fanbase, who feel the same way.
I'm in the same boat as Mike, though my ennui is farther along. I'm *fond* of old Star Trek, but I've lost the passion. I just no longer care, not enough to get angry, not even enough to laugh. Ditto for Star Wars, and other fandoms for that matter (AGOT is dead to me. We'll never see TWoW, and idgaf). Mainly now I just read old sf novels from 40+ years ago.
"I've seen the body" is a phrase that can be applied to so many current franchises.
It's a battlefield out there, and we're in the middle of no man's land.
Ironically, the Battlefield franchise is also a new body
Star Wars was the first body, it was wounded in 1983 then murdered in 1999, what we saw in 2015-2019 was a reanimated zombie.
At least they won't ruin Back to the Future!
The woke infestation has destroyed everything they touch.
@@christiansonderfeld2793 ha yea, i can't believe they're remaking that
The editing of wheaton into frames is amazing, the analogy of the show to a childs drawing on a fridge is hilarious & ive subbed.
I liked one line in that Picard pep-talk "Fear is fear. It does not speak in riddles... It means you understand the risks."
That's something Picard might actually say. The rest was unfocused, but you take your victories where you can with this mess.
That moment, when Mike "gets real" for a second, genuinely made me feel bad. I felt bad for him, but also about the state of Star Trek. I can't think of another show that made people feel this way, I'm only certain that no show, that supposedly was made for entertainment even, ever should. Although I would have loved to watch their review of Season 3, I fully understand and respect that they won't do this to themselves any longer. Thanks for all the great entertainment guys, we sure as hell couldn't have gotten it from that show.
I'm sure we'll get an edgy grimdark reboot of MASH at some point that's about killing all the bad guys.
@@mechadeka the fact that we just got a dark and edgy reboot of Fresh Prince of all things, says anything is possible.
Star Trek was built on a noble vision of humanity, however, this travesty of Star Trek is what actually results from a philosophy of pure "equality." Petty squabbling and deconstruction of heroic figures.
If you want to reclaim a noble future, you have to reject the lies that were embedded in Star Trek to begin with and rebuild from a vision of humanity that embraces hierarchy, order, and heroism.
@@mechadeka Don't you fucking dare put ideas in their head.
@@Lirka_906 I want ALF as gritty reboot.
Even though you guys are probably clinically depressed from watching Picard, I sincerely hope we get more Mike and Rich's fav TNG episodes!
Their review of Strange New Worlds will be very interesting.
I'm hoping for discussion of Deep Space Nine. They've talked a lot about TNG, but I'm genuinely curious to hear what they liked and disliked about its immediate successor series, since it changed so much.
Mike's speech at the end leaves me pessimistic we'll ever get a video about it, though. Kind of a bummer.
@@NubileReptile more like DogShit9
@@NubileReptile Mike did seem genuine in saying it has ruined his enjoyment of the old series. Maybe this is the end of Star Trek on RLM :(
I've never watched a single minute of NuTrek, and I avoided it specifically so I could go back, watch the old movies and tv shows, and not feel that stab of a knife through my heart.
Strange New Worlds is actually good though. Better than Enterprise, so far at least. The other live-action shows are trash though.
@@warmlycalculated390 Yall come out and say this for every garbage series, I just assume you're all bots now, or easily fooled by shiny new toys.
@@PraxesArdenn Just pirate it and watch it. Or just compare its IMDB reviews with other nu-Trek series.
Thanks to these selfless people, I never saw a single episode of Picard, and stopped trying to watch STD beyond season 1. Thank you for the sacrifice.
If one of these hatchet jobs ever turns out good, people will say so and I'll watch them after the fact.
I’ve always loved Mike’s absurdist humor but he actually seems genuinely weary here.
First discovery, then the Shatner fight, and now Picard. Understand why the dude is off his favorite thing.
Well they say "trouble always comes in three's"....
Force Awakens, Last Jedi and the other one. 2 dead 'franchises'.
Good thing he has his ghost stories to fall back on
Since both Star Trek and Star Wars are dead for him now, the only thing left for him to do before dying is a Plinkett review for Indiana Jones 5.
@@DomVonDoom trouble always comes in sevens of nines
That 80-year old Patrick Stewart impression was so spot on, just like Mike's Palpy's impression.
Someone NEEDS to do an animated version of Mike’s epic monologue as Picard.
@@oneinathousand2156 The internet will provide, I have no doubt.
He's got his speech pattern down to a T, it was beautiful.
It's the cruelest irony that the only people that need to watch this are the Star Trek writers, and they won't.
The editing of the first 10 minutes of this is pure gold. I imagine it is a good replica of the experience of having to watch the show itself.
This was a real rollercoaster. Hearing Mike's heart just sink at the admission of the death of one of his favourite franchises was truly heartbreaking.
It's the Rise of Skywalker but it's just hour after hour unrelenting