Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - re:View
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2023
- Okay, Doomer! Mike and Rich embark on an epic adventure without leaving the comfort of their chairs! On the eve of the release of the "final" Indiana Jones film "Dials of Density", Mike and Rich decide to look back at the least loved film of the trilogy, Temple of Doom (Rich was the least loved child of 18 children) Listen to these two morons talk about a movie from 1984! Four decades before all of you were born. They can't possibly be THAT stupid right? Why aren't they posting TikTok prank videos? Or on Insta filming car wrecks and laughing at bum fights? Or making a true crime podcast. Or giving their cash away in piles like The Beast. Why don't they argue about things on Twitter with total strangers? Does Rich Evans wear diapers? YES! What would possess these two to talk about something old and pointless. Well, kids it's because they love moopies. They really love old moopies and make mud pies in their pants.
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Enjoy the LPs! Tried to send a lovely variety. The last one is an electronic artist from Italy called MASTER BOOT RECORD. Title / name on the spine.
I never thought I’d see a MBR LP in a RLM video, cheers
I knew that looked familiar! I don't listen to a lot of metal, but MBR is fucking incredible.
This might be a bit redundant to say, but you guys rock!
What a crossover
I fucking never expected that MBR crossover but I enjoyed it.
The funniest thing about this film is that Short Round is the only person Indy openly likes consistently throughout the whole series. He lets him wear his hat, he protects him, and never argues with him. He likes short round more than his own son
Well, they do argue about cards and whether Short Round is cheating.
Yes, that's why he hires him to drive the car he'll need to escape a hardened criminal syndicate. He's just looking out for him 😂
Someone watched the mr Sunday movie’s video I see
I still really like the dynamic between Indy and Short Round. I kinda hope we get a cameo or something from him in the new one
@@jnormile9924*movies
To this day I still tear up when Shorty says "Indy, I love you." Most stuff like that would seem cheesy in most films but Ke Huy Quan is so genuine in his performance. A fine actor even at that tender age.
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Then the scene when he gives Indy his hat and they hug it out. “Indy my friend.” It’s heartwarming.
I was about the same age as Short Round when I first saw the movie so in a way I viewed the story though his eyes. I wanted so much to have a father figure like Indy since my real one was a terrible person.
@@seanh9037 same :)
@@seanh9037 The dynamic between the two is really great.
Short Round was planned to be there. Indy got three plane tickets: one for himself, one for the friend that got shot, and one for short round. Willie took the place of the guy who was shot
When I was young I assumed short round worked for and was possibly related to indies friend / contact who got shot .
I’m convinced one of the main reasons Mike makes videos is so he can unfold a random piece of paper and read from it
He's trying to pass as a boomer.
Paper unfolding supercut when
he's like an old man
Who wouldn't?
You don't mess with what works.
I always appreciated that in the LEGO Indiana Jones game, Willie's power was screaming and it would stun enemies and shatter glass.
I was about to say the same thing!😂
That's great!
I remember how the women in that game all had the power to jump extra high and the spots where they needed to jump were marked with bright pretty pink flowers. Ya know, like in the movie!
It seems kinda sexist now that I think about it, but oh well it’s a baby game ig
Holy shit i had forgotten that and the flowers indicating the classic female high jump! That was my favourite game as a kid!
Makes perfect sense for these games, I love it :D
No matter the shortcomings of this movie, the scene where Indy’s silhouette appears in the cave and you know he’s about to kick so much ass is possibly one of the greatest Indiana Jones moments
I have always said that that shot is about as perfect as it gets
I'm half Indian and saw Temple of Doom at a cinema in Fiji while on holiday. Saw a Hindu statue shop and immediately got a statue of Kali. Got back to Australia and resumed school after the holidays and was swamped by kids asking about the food. Because they all watched it too, and thought that's what we eat.
The whole point was that they were a cult eating that weird stuff, as most Hindus are vegetarian for a start. But I had to convince a lot of people that they weren't popular Indian dishes.
I don't believe you. I had chilled monkey brains at the local indian restaurant last night. The lamb korma was nice though
@@lawton6123 Chilled? Any Indian will tell you that Monkey Brains should be served piping ho... oh... uh... I mean, I don't know what you're talking about.
Based on vegans in the usa i really dont think Indians are vegetarians. Theres 14 vitamins you cant get from vegetables because plants dont make or need them. You can only get them from animals like chickens pigs or cows or any animal at those levels on the food chain. But ive never been to india and i dont feel like trying to prove this. Maybe indians are some kind of evolved human that can process plants at the same level as goats and cows. Even though both those animals stomachs are way different then ours and in goats way more powerful.
I think there was a line in the novelization (and probably in the movie that was cut) where Indy points out the weird food as a sign that something is wrong a the palace.
Most Hindus are non- vegetarians lol
i 100% believe Indiana Jones, the grubby and most irresponsible man, would ask a child to be his getaway driver
Short Round definitely is. He asks Indy were Wu Han is, and they have 3 tickets for the plane, and Willy can take one sheet Wu Han is dead. Att the very least, Short Round was planned to be part if the getaway, keep the engine running or something.
It was the 30's, childrens were trained to fight commies back then. They were nothing but very young and small people back then. Today they are those delicate flowers for 3 or 4 decades we have to protect from the world.
It was less irresponsible than what we doing with our childrens now, just look the achievements in economy in the 30's, 40's and 50's and look it now!
Exactly! For me, that was the most believable part of the movie
Really the kid is the best part of the movie, particularly if you have kids as he has the most realistic dialog and action to actual children I've seen in a film.
Agreed. Sorry Mike Rich wins this one
1984 Spielberg not caring (Temple) vs. 2008 Spielberg not caring (Skull) is a testament to the greatness of 80's Spielberg.
Skull wasn't 15 years ago already! Sheesh.
It’s so weird to me how Spielberg went from Munich in 2005 (which is a masterpiece in my opinion) to Crystal Skull as his next project.
Crystal skull has Indiana Jones surviving a nuclear explosion 💥 by hiding in a fridge! Brilliant
Quite frankly having no nostalgia for Temple of Doom I barely consider it any better than Skull, yes nuking the fridge is very stupid, but so is surving an airplane fall with a raft. I think CGI is the only tie-breaker between those two movies, as in it allowed Spielberg to go as dumb and as lazy as possible with skull
@@felipeaguena5289 The tone is entirely different though. Temple has silly moments but it’s mostly done in a serious way. Crystal is so cartoony, like the scene with Shia swinging on vines with monkeys. And it tops it off with CGI aliens, it’s incredibly goofy, I don’t see how Temple is anywhere on the same level.
its kind of amazing how much more real a bunch of floppy dolls in a minecart are compared to CGI
A lot of it comes from the limitations of shooting with models causing you to design your shots so the camera behaves realistically.
You can see this in the first Pacific Rim - because they made sure none of the camera moves in the robot fights would be impossible for a physical camera to make if the scene were real, everything feels way more real.
And much, much cheaper.
@@kyleowsen I know you said a lot, so to add a counter example look at Fincher specifically the long shot in Panic Room, the impossible camera movements don't make that feel any less real.
To add on to your point, cave chase allows for minimal bright lights so it`s much easier to hide.
This is my favorite Indy film. The darkness and weirdness better reflects the spirit of old pulp magazine adventure stories than film serials, and I really appreciate that.
What’s really annoying is that Spielberg has disowned it
@@knownpleasures Spielberg can kiss my ass. If he doesn't want it I'll take it.
@@knownpleasureshas he really? What about crystal skull?
@@haydeng3541 he never wanted to make it and never liked the alien stuff but he’s a bit softer on it cause he mostly considers it George’s movie.
I really love it too. Still not quite my favorite but it hit just right for me at that age
Mike constantly ripping out Rich's heart is the real Temple of Doom
Best comment award for today.
Hopefully Mike eventually let's Rich talk about Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Lord knows he's has earned his chance to talk about it considered all the bad Trek the man's been forced to talk about in the past.
Kali maaaa 🫀👋
Thanks for making me laugh during lunch.
The real temple of doom was inside us all along
The cut away to "he taught me how to scream" KILLED ME 🤣
RLM editing at its finest 👌
There are actually 3 Wilhelm screams in the movie. There's also Mola Ram's death at the very end. And Willie Scott's first name is "Wilhelmina" and she screams all throughout the movie, which might be another Wilhelm scream reference.
That’s actually pretty funny, I had never realized that. Is she credited as such in the movie? Is there any actual reference to her name in the movie?
Love the stuff that evokes 30s pulp adventures and films...Shanghai Night Club scene, the airplane scene up until the dumb raft part, the bedroom banter/attack scene, voodoo dolls, the evil Indy cocktail, conveyer belt fight, the rope bridge. It's right out of Tintin.
It might be even older than the 30s. The cult plot is very similar to Sandokan and the Mystery of the Black Jungle, written by the great pulp writer Emilio Salgari, in 1895.
The raft is fine; Indy has uncanny luck at the last minutes like Bond (lucky number 7) throughout the series.
The movie is practically a loose sequel to the 1939 RKO movie “Gunga Din”, which is about a trio of British soldiers in the late 19th century India seeking treasure and encountering the same Thuggee Cult.
I didn't learn until much later in life that Temple was disliked. It 100% was my favorite Indy movie as a kid.
I never watched it as a kid because my parents hated it, so I only watched it as an adult. It’s good, but I have zero connection with it like I do with Raiders and Last Crusade.
It wasnt indy, it was a huge production
I was shocked to learn, via the internet, that many Star Wars fans hated the Ewoks, and some people thought the trashing of the Blue Peter garden was funny.
My opinion of temple of doom is that it has the highest highs and lowest lows out of the og trilogy. It’s by far the most chaotic Indiana Jones movie and it stands out as unique when you compare it to the other two.
Also shortround is the best Indian Jones sidekick ever, and one of few people that indie really cares about. Fuck Shia labeouf, indie should have adopted shortround as is son.
My fav will always be the last crusade for obvious reasons, but the entire OG trilogy is gold.
EDIT: also, it took me years to realize that temple of doom was a prequel to raiders of the lost ark.
I'll be honest, it is my least favourite. I'd rank Crystal skull higher
"Shorty's parents were killed in...some incident where Shorty's parents died" that is some genuinely touching context for Indy and Short Round's relationship
It's always terrible when a fatal incident involves death.
Killed to death. What a way to go. 😢
RIP in peace to them
indy drove over them.
shorty could just say they're dead to avoid talking about them being holed up in some opium den...
The movie says Shorty's parents were killed when the Japanese bombed Shanghai. I don't think you need much more explanation than that. Seems totally plausible to me. Orphans created in war. We see it all the time. I can totally buy how a child whose parents were killed would be to drawn to Indy as a surrogate father figure.
Fun fact: that lightsaber sound effect can also be heard in the Fellowship of the Ring in the scene where orcs cast swords for Saruman's new army. I guess the lightsaber on/off sound comes from the world of forging (water evaporating upon coming into contact with hot metal?) and not the other way round :D
Huh, never noticed that in Fellowship, thanks!
I believe it's water being poured on dry ice, per Ben Burtt in some documentary somewhere. I'd have to look it up.
It wasn't a lightsaber sound. It's the sound of Kate Capshaw's character sharting in fear.
I was never aware people didn't like Temple of Doom... movie rules so hard in every way.
The pacing and timing of this episode is fantastic
Nice
But the Rich miniature looks SO fake.
The pacing and timing of copying this comment word for word from one hours before is fantastic lol
Nc
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Surprised they didn't discuss the framing of the scene where Indiana Jones could leave, but instead comes back for the kids. When he returns, the kids are pushing a minecart and the light of the cart itself reveals the silhouette of Indy's return. So it's a bit of a callback to the silhouette usage in the first movie, but this time it's portrayed in classic heroism style. It's one of my favorite shots of all the movies.
Agreed. That hero shot is awesome. He punches the guy so hard he slides across the ground. We could have talked about almost every shot in the film, but the video can't be 3 hours long. Thanks for watching our programming!
Yeah, the cinematography and framing on this 'old' adventure films is top notch. Spielberg was great.
@@RedLetterMedia Yes, it can be 3 hours long. We'll watch.
@@RedLetterMediaI'm glad Rich gave a mention of the dual shot that showed Short Round using the exact same punch and backhand combo on the maharajah as Indy was using on the foreman. It was another clue into how well they knew each other, that he knew how to fight just like Indy, after Indy started looking after this orphan boy. I was a little Chinese boy the same age as Short Round when I saw Temple of Doom and Short Round made me feel validated decades before representation became a Hollywood buzzword.
I think that shot was also the loudest reprise of the Raiders fanfare in the movie up to that point. It was the moment when the Indy ass kicking vibe was firing on all cylinders.
@@theplothickensbut they don't want to edit that
It makes sense that Mike says this movie shaped his brain, considering how good he's gotten at tearing the heart out of Rich Evans.
Hiyoooo!
Speaking of musical cues, they use the exact same music of the Cairo swordsman when he versus the swordsmen in TOD. And then, when Indy doesn't have a gun, they use the marketplace incidental music. It's such a cool musical reference!
True, but since Temple is a prequel that would mean Indy got it right the second time. His pistol is gone for this, the first time.
It's ironic that the "dark and gruesome" Indy film almost inevitably ends up as every kid's favorite. It's just a fun movie.
It helps that he had a kid sidekick who was pretty freaking cool.
@@psykomancer4420 Yeah somehow Short Round manages to avoid a lot of the "annoying kid" cliches while also kicking a seriously disproportionate amount of ass.
@@okankyoto he was the best actor and character in the movie.
Oh god, Temple of Doom is getting the prequel treatment of getting undue respect in the face of even shittier sequels. Short Round was annoying even as a kid.
@blank-vj1mc Temple of Doom is nowhere near the level of the prequels. It's just a fun movie that isn't as good as the other two.
Rich is right, Short Round was always going to be the getaway driver because Dan Aykroyd says that Indy's assistant booked the plane for 3 people. Since I doubt Wu Han planned on kidnapping Willie or getting shot we can assume the original 3 were going to be Indy, Short Round, and Wu Han.
Yes, there is a deleted scene or part of that scene where Short Round asks about Wu Han and is told he won't be joining them. Also you can tell Short Round was going to be the getaway driver because he was pulling up to the entrance to the club to pick them up, but was surprised by how they got in the car.
Dude, how did you get away with the talk about Wu Han, without a context warning?!
For some reason, I remember Short Round being Wu Han's little brother. Idk where I picked that up from though...
So, WuHan would escape???
Did Wu Han had a cold??
Sorry but my humor is wierd, and sometimes dark.
Mikes dementia must be really getting bad as the entire scene is incredibly obviously setup that Short Round was the getaway driver.
Temple of Doom is highly under-appreciated. All of the set pieces and action sequences are fantastic and memorable (night club opening, mine cart chase, bridge sequence), and the tone is so dark, adventurous, and bold. Indiana Jones walks straight into a pulpy horror film and it’s entirely awesome. Raiders is an all-time classic, and Temple is Raiders on steroids. While The Last Crusade has its many high points and the Ford/Connery banter is fun, but it’s clearly a return to the Raiders-esque aesthetic after the controversial Temple. But that dark and edgy side of Temple is what engages me the most and keeps me coming back to it. Not to mention, the sweet bond between Indy and Short Round brings some real heart to the film, contrasted with its darker moments.
Definitely
It's honestly jarring to hear that the people who actually made it didn't like it because it's such a favorite of mine
Nicely said.
As a kid that was VERY much into reptiles, it always bothered me that they used alligators for the bridge scene, because there are no alligators in India, or almost anywhere else in the world outside of North America. It wasn't until now that I really thought about it, and realized they probably could have found some crocodile farm or a crocodile-themed tourist attraction to film in in Sri Lanka if they wanted to, so it must have been a conscious choice to use alligators specifically because that's how old timey serials would have done it. Also it probably helped if it was cheaper that way.
They are betting on the fact that most people won't notice because they don't know the difference. As a Florida boy I felt the same way.
"Willing suspension of disbelief"... its hard to do sometimes, lol
a quick google search shows that there are alligators and crocodiles almost everywhere on the planet, including india 🤔
@@nn-dj2nu not those alligators. Those are American alligators I think
@@nn-dj2nu Google search results are full of AI generated bullshit these days, don't trust some random page. The only alligators on the planet are the American one and the almost extinct Chinese one. I know it's probably confusing because apart from the head they look very similar but alligators aren't crocodiles.
As a Sri Lankan this is both a weird and awesome movie. The main villagers of the village Indie first goes to are some of the well know (in that time) actors in Sri Lanka. The old man (D.R. Nanayakkara) and the old woman (Denawaka Hamine) are two of my favorites and they were famous for their comedic performances.
I had no idea, this is great movie trivia! Thanks for sharing 👍
Amazing information!
What food did they eat on that leaf? I could never make out what it was that insulted them and embarrassed Indy food.
@@mem1701movies I watched the scene again and I cannot make it out clearly either. One dish looks like it's yellow rice. But I have no idea about the awkward looking grey dish (which also attracts flies? 😅). And the insulting comment is that the villagers are offering food and by not accepting, it could look like she is ungrateful. It's not related to any specific food.
@@V.H.Silva89 I still don’t know but someone elsewhere mentioned before that it was bat guano with undigested berries
"His sidekick should be a virginal, young princess" is such a bitterly divorced take, I'm laughing so hard.
Temple of Doom was always the most memorable to me. It made quite an impression seeing that as a kid.
When people freak out in disbelief over the fridge scene in Crystal Skull, I always remember the tremendous but unbelievable section where they survive the plane crash and the sequence that follows. Its just part of Indiana Jones, and it is amazing.
The raft sequence is like a documentary compared to the nuke fridge
@@bencarlson4300You should watch Film Theory. MatPat actually found Indy had a 50/50 chance of surviving the fridge, which is better than falling out of a plane.
As a ten year old this was the greatest movie ever. The cult heart scene was seared into my brain
Completely bonkers that this movie is PG. Child slavery what a great wholesome thing for the whole family to enjoy!
Kali maa....KALI MAAAAAA
@@TheYeti6000well, this movie, alongside Gremlins, was responsible for the creation of the PG-13 rating. It's difficult to imagine how movies were classified more than 40 years ago
@@TheYeti6000and all the animal visera 💀
In the UK we never got to see the full uncut heart scene until the early 00's
The 80s were truly glorious! Back when child slavery and human sacrifice was just good wholesome family movie viewing.
LaL
LiL
The 1970's did it better with Bad News Bears and Paper Moon lol.
Yup! Instead of it being hidden away now to keep the economy going!
As opposed to today when it's wholly ignored because it gives us iPhones.
In regards to the score weaving in characters' themes, a surprising example of that in a more modern movie was Godzilla: King of the Monsters. The 4 monsters each had their own distinct themes and instruments that would constantly show up in the score whenever the focus was on one of them in an action scene. The movie had a heap of problems but the music was excellent.
Not having seen it myself, I'm guessing they still mixed the music under the sfx didn't they? That's another big problem with modern movies: not only are scores unmemorable, but they mix them low enough that you can't even make them out over everything else happening in the scene.
I'm with Mike. This is one of my favorite movies of all times and the quintessential Indy adventure. When I learned through the Internet that some people actually disliked it, I just couldn't believe it.
Roat Shore is the absolute peak of Rich mispronouncing things. I have no idea how he got there. My face hurts from laughing at this so much.
"Skost" is still a classic.
Folding Chable
Timestamp?
@@SomeGuyTHPS 44:55
@@aaronsarchive82 These are all classics I just don't think anything has ever been as bizarrely just like, not even close to the word as this. It's like his brain put all the syllables in a blender and reproduced them in an instant.
What I love about this film, apart from the fact that it's totally insane, is that Harrison Ford is all in for it. He really puts 100% enthusiasm into his performance here.
I've never understood the lack of enthusiasm from Harrison Ford in recent years. If you're not enjoying it, just retire! I'm not sure if I have an excess of laziness or a lack of greed, but to me not having to work is the ultimate luxury, and unless Harrison Ford has a Nick Cage level of compulsion to buy ridiculously expensive stuff he's surely got more money than he could ever spend?
@korganrocks3995 he always been like this! He hated playing in Star wars! Like, come on
@korganrocks3995 Harrison Ford I've noticed hates the stuff he's most known for. But if it's a good script, he will actually try. Everything else is just a paycheck for him.
@@parisulki729 He didn't like the Han Solo role, but it doesn't show at all imo, not even in TFA. He was more animated in that than anything I've seen in two decades before that.
@@DaBeezNeez He certainly doesn't hate the Indiana Jones role, per his own words.
Having only ever seen Doom on a CRT off of VHS or broadcast TV, seeing it in HD and widescreen makes me realize just how great it looks.
After watching Indiana Jones 5 my respect for Steven Spielberg's Indiana Jones increased by 1000%
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He’s a great director but Temple of Doom is really bad. It’s not his fault George Lucas gave him a bad script. I’m almost certain he only ever writes one draft for every movie he makes.
@@cotati76there's a ton of scripts for Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom and all of Lucas initial treatments are very different
The three Lucas story treatments for this film -
There's the very first one, before they had a title, which has an opening where Indy rode a motorcycle down The Great Wall of China and had a plot concerning Indy discovering a "lost world" style valley where Dinosaurs survived.
Theres then notes for a rejected idea of Lucas's involving the Monkey King of Chinese mythology which was never written up beyond that.
The second one had no opening that we know of, but a detailed plot involving Indy in a haunted castle in Scotland or Ireland (depending on who you ask) that Speilberg loved but ultimately Lucas thought was too similar to Poltergeist
And then there's the one they used, although Lucas story had a different opening that involved Indy in an African Village being attacked by the British and one of the soldiers kills a dog.
Then there's about 40 different drafts of that idea by various script writers working from Lucas story treatment before we end up at what we got.
@@medes5597 thanks for all the info. I was being facetious. I’ve worked on some movies (one was the movie Superman Returns) and am aware of all the work that goes into it. I love Indy but Temple just isn’t one I like but that doesn’t mean it isn’t any good, it’s just not for me. I don’t know which one is my favorite. I’m glad they kind of wrapped up the character in the last movie. I personally enjoyed it. Luckily I’ve been able to see every movie in the theater during its original release but I was only five or six for the first one so I don’t have clear memories of it like I do the rest of them.
11:00 i love how mike intentionally creates a montage of all of the worst moments from crystal skull over rich defending it lol
LMAO
Mike's analysis of the exposition scenes in Temple of Doom being intercut with comedic clips, compared to the serious exposition scenes in Raiders and Crusade, is one of the most astute and sophisticated bits of film criticism I've seen in a long time. I love these guys.
Last Crusade is just.... Kinda there. You have to give credit to ToD for really swinging for the fences.
It’s incomprehensible to me that the same person who made that incredibly insightful observation also thinks Indy randomly fell into a cab driven by his sidekick.
I've always thought that Raiders was technically darker in overall tone.
@@joelfinkelstein7476 Couldn't agree more.
It certainly is nice to watch film reviewers who aren't just hack frauds.
It’s a magnificent film. Pure entertainment that smashes along like a rollercoaster. It has so many top tier sequences and iconic moments, it’s just great. The really don’t make em like this anymore..
"I just don't care anymore"
Glad to see Mike accepting senility. Mr Plinkett would be proud.
Was that in reference to performative outrage? Everyone should be that kind of senile. I was surprised and grateful that this Re:View never bothered to reel off a list of 'problematic' stuff.
Mike’s deranged conspiracy theory that Short Round was never planned to be with Indy in the Shanghai mission is hilarious. Wouldn’t Indy be surprised to see a kid he knows randomly driving the car he fell into? Because when he tells Shorty to “step on it,” he seems pretty unsurprised by his presence.
I KNOW RIGHT!! How do you not see short round as the escape vehicle
Short Round wasn't Indy's get-away driver. Indy wasn't there to pull a heist. Short Round was simply Indy's driver.
Also Dan Aykroyd tells Indy that he, "spoke with your assistant and managed to secure 3 seats." So unless he had planned to kidnap Willy, the seats were arranged just prior to the club scene and were for Indy, Short Round, and the guy who died (who I suspect was the assistant).
@@williamferguson5404 It was always possible the business will turn into a heist.
Yeah that entire part seemed like dementia speaking.
So fun fact: part of the mix of sounds used to create the Millenium Falcon stalling sound was the startup of a Sopwith Camel (WW1 biplane). So *technically,* it was more accurately used in Temple of Doom.
That's kind of funny. I think a lot of people forget that the Millennium Falcon is the Star Wars equivalent of a 16-wheeler.
That is a rare instance of a truly fun fact. Thank you.
@@FrozenGoblin that means the Han Solo film should really have been Smokey and the Bandit in space. I mean, I liked Solo, but Smokey and the Bandit in space would have been awesome.
I love last crusade personally, really impacted me as a kid, idk just love that whole holy grail story and the father son dynamic was big for me.
Judging by my own experience, I think if you were a kid when this came out, it was your favorite. It was gory and scary in a kid-friendly way, if that makes sense. As a kid, to me the gore in Raiders was scarier, while Doom felt like a Saturday Morning Cartoon I wish existed.
From my experience, if you didn't see it as a kid, it's not very good (apart from some excellent set pieces).
It WAS my favorite as a kid (80's baby here)!!😆😆 I still love it, though as I got older I finally appreciated Raiders of the Lost Arc😉.
I didn’t like the gore and the big bad guy, but you’re right, to me this film _is_ Indiana Jones and the other ones barely register for me.
Mike trying to force his headcanon about short round and Rich not buying it was both hilarious and cute.
There also isn't any cameo of short round in the new movie, guess we will never know what happened to him.
Short round probably found his own shorty
Indy definitely got Shorty killed
Ke Hu Kwan's performance as Short Round is classic. Virtually every line he says is still quotable to this day. The way he idolizes Indy - that was me when I was 10.
“This is no time for love”
For real. Everything he does and line he delivers just feels so authentic. I think every single little boy who watched this movie imagined themselves being short round, I know I did.
“Indy I love you!” 🥺
But wouldn’t you much rather have a character who is constantly insulting our hero Indy for being old, decrepit, bigoted, patriarchal, dumb, etc? Apparently Disney bet almost half a billion dollars that audiences want their hero’s torn down rather than idolized.
"Hold on to your potatoes!"
I really had no idea some people hated this movie. For a kid it was so scary then so good feeling when they triumph. Even Willie, I had no clue that people didn't liked her. She was so scared, but still so defiant, so clumsy but so proud. Perfect movie.
There are excellent reasons for despising this film. Its blatant xenophobia, for one.
@@RebeccaTurner-ny1xx Yes, a lot a xenophobia against an evil death cult and that's absolutely great.
@@johncenter4858 "an evil death cult" that just happens to be composed entirely of people with brown skin. Defeated by people who just happen to have white skin. Slight coincidence.
Personally, I think this one is the best of the three. Yes, three.
@@christianbreitkreuz1710I swear my favorite changes each time I rewatch them. The first was my favorite the first time through, then temple of doom was my favorite. Then raiders again, then temple of doom again. Then it was last crusade. Now it's temple of doom again lol
Temple of Doom is unironically my favorite Indy film, and it has been since it came out. I was 8 years old at the time, and it appealed to me in so many ways. We got it on Beta as soon as it came out and we've watched it (in one format or another) every New Years Eve as a family movie marathon since then. I love it so much that I once named a dog Short Round, and my university pub quiz team name was "Nice Try Lao Che."
I saw this movie as a child. It scared the living shit out of me for years. Was it the graphic violence? The child slave labor? The human heart? The bug scene? Nope! It was when Indie turned evil for like 10 minutes. That scared the hell outta me for some reason 😂
That part didn't scare me, but I clearly remember it upsetting me when I was a kid. Even though he went back to normal later, the thought that he effectively lost to the bad guys in that moment really bothered me.
@@Musing_Macabre exactly why is spooked me too
This one didn't bother me much. I was about eight when I first saw it, which is honestly way too young, and I mostly found it too intense. _Raiders_ however, when I did finally see it at a more appropriate age, scared the shit out of me due to the face melting scene. I do still think _Doom_ is my favourite of the three.
My daughter LOVED Temple of Doom when she was young. It was Raiders that bothered her - Indy was meaner in that movie (more of an anti-hero) and the violence was less cartoonish. (The fight in Marion's bar has some shockingly brutal, realistic violence!) Indy scared her in that film. She thought Temple was scarier over-all, "but it's a FUN scary."
I don’t even remember that
I was also a Temple of Doom kid. I think there's something about how subversive it feels. It was so scary and gross, but also goofy and funny.
Temple of Doom is the one we watched most as kids
Indy was long after my time (born in the late 90s) but temple of doom was the first one I ever watched (my mom forced me to watch it lol) and it's my guilty pleasure favorite. I like the 3rd one more, but If I could only save one it might be this one. The guy pulling the heart out of the guy's chest is still out of this world!
This was a PG-13 before it existed. So at the time it almost felt like watching a R-rated indiana jones. It was a thrilling movie to watch.
@@AndI0td763 I’ve heard people say this a lot and I agree. Indiana Jones has to be the first (or one of) examples of a movie that got a “family friendly” rating simply because of the goodwill they generated with the first. The dark Knight also comes to mind as an R flick that was kid friendly
@@AndI0td763 it really was! for example my parents were fine with me watching it because it was PG but years later when goldeneye n64 came out they didn't want me playing it because it was MA haha, (australian ratings) not familiar with us
I was in the cinema preview night in 1984 at age 12 and Mike is 100% right! We havent even mentioned it's the first movie he speaks many languages which ultimately saves his life. It's his archeological knowledge that bears Mola Ram not just the brawn. Btw Tarantino named Doom his favorite Spielberg movies after Jaws.
During the pre-production of Raiders, Steven Spielberg was dating actor, Amy Irving and had set her to be the female lead in Raiders. But Amy Irving ended up getting romantic inviolved with Willie Nelson while making Honeysuckle Rose, which broke up her relationship to Spielberg for a while, therefor Karen Allen got to play the part instaed. It's also the reason why Kate Capshaw's character was given the name Willie Scott named after Willie Nelson.
Setting Temple before Raiders also allows Indy to be even more of a gray-area character morally at the start of this story. He didn't find Nurhachi or the stones for his museum, but for fortune and glory. He threatens an innocent woman, gets his friend Wu Han killed, and endangers the life of some poor orphan boy. After this adventure, we can begin Raiders with Indy having learned his lesson and gone legit.
Yeah but it is what is is.
Never thought of that, but good theory - makes me like this movie a slight bit more!
It's something I never paid attention to as a kid but as I've aged and looked back I appreciated it a lot more. Especially with the added context of Last Crusade where you see young idealistic Indy with the "it belongs in a museum!". Probably applying my own feelings and logic to explain something they didn't intend but for me it shows how youthful idealism can fall by the wayside as you lose sight of what really matters in the pursuit of your own goals.
@@TalooFoH Take the whole original trilogy chronologically and Indiana has an arc in regards to the artifacts he searches for.
In 1912 he feels strongly that the Cross should be displayed publicly in a museum, but is helpless against grave robbers for a private collector.
By 1935 he he's sunken to grave robbing for a gangster's private collection. And he's thinking "screw this Indian village, I'm selling the Stones for Fortune and Glory" before he has his change of heart.
1936 - 1938 he's back on the straight and narrow, trying and failing twice to bring artifacts to the museum (the Idol and the Ark), then finally succeeding with the Cross.
I remember watching this movie as a kid and knowing that it takes place in India, I was very confused when the extras all started speaking sinhala.
I realized later that they filmed it in Sri Lanka and pretended it was India.
What's awesome is that the lines in Sinhala are not just random shit; when that woman is grabbing at Short Round I think she was saying something like "I lost my son, please come be my son".
42:25 I love how Indy deliberately chose to go to the right tunnel, the one lit with scary red light, instead of the other one that looked inviting.
Watching the Indy trilogy with dad was a right of passage when I was young. Temple was the one we always watched last.
I remember in one of Ebert's reviews of an Indy film he points out that Marion is every adolescent boy's (the audience for adventure serials) idea of a cool girl: she drinks and fights like a boy, and she's brave and always down for adventure, but she's still pretty and needs to be rescued sometimes. Willy, by contrast, is every boy's nightmare: she's stereotypically fussy and cowardly, she complains and whines all the time, and she doesn't want adventure at all. But she's still pretty and needs to be rescued!
She's the opposite of cowardly, though. Despite being terrified she still goes down into the tunnel past corpses and a horde of bugs to save Indy and Short Round from being crushed. She kills 3 men during the mine cart chase, and when Short Round nearly falls through the bridge, she overcomes how terrified she is of the bridge and how high up they are to rescue the kid.
@@JohnSilverHawkinsShe's still annoying, though.
@@jlev1028nah - she’s a fun stand in for the audience seeing how bonkers it all is.
@@JohnSilverHawkins nice. There is no courage without the presence of fear first. Willie has an arc.
I hadn't twigged, but yeah, she's the everyman character. She's the only one who seems to realise just how batshit crazy the whole scenario is and reacts appropriately to it. And I'd agree that she does show courage; she's just completely out of her depth for nearly everything which happens.
Two elderly people discussing a film with Harrison Ford in it is just what I needed today
Rich isn't elderly. He's got a spiderman shirt on.
@@davidm2031 My bad, he is so young and hip!
IT BROKE NEW GROUND!!
@@MrMr-ws3tv laugs in Rich Evans
You can't have people reminiscing about seeing a movie from 1984 as kids if they weren't kids in 1984.
In the video game “Indiana Jones and the Emperor’s Tomb” one of the boss characters you fight is actually a kraken lol
I had all three Indiana Jones, Mad Max and Alien movies on VHS cassettes. Epic quest, post apocalyptic and space-horror adventure. Watch them all the time.
God, I feel old. Can you imagine an Indiana Jones 6? A 100 year old Indy using the internet for the first time?
Indiana Jones 7: The Search for Pizzagate
Indiana Jones 8: I have Fallen Down and I Can't Get Up.
Indiana jones and the temple of Jeffery Epstein
_Indiana Jones and the Gorge of Goatse_
If the studio thought they could make a billion dollars. I wouldn't put it past them to wheel out a hundred year old Harrison Ford, with saliva dribbling from his mouth and put a whip in his hand and his Stetson hat on while hes sat in his wheelchair surrounded by a supporting cast of woke, feminist actresses (sorry actors), with a script that is more concerned with pushing their politics than a good action, adventure story with a element of the supernatural and biblical legend.
The weird thing about the dinner scene is that in the script Indiana Jones outright states that the people here would never be eating food like that, but for whatever reason they left the line out so it just comes off as another movie from the time where the joke is "Indian people eat craaaaaazy food!"
Yeah, in reality, the weird food is a reason they know something is wrong completely.
I think that might have been in the novelization. I don't think it was in the script.
Also, remember when Willy Scott puts perfume all over the elephant because it stinks? Later in the Dinner scene there is a moment when she smells the large indian guy next to her and then she pours perfume on him.
@@umk986 and you might remember, Willie is *kind of a bitch*. She has the most unrealistic standards and expectations for everything in her life and even the smallest thing out of order is given an attempt to be corrected rather bluntly.
Guy probably smelled fine, or more realistically, a *little* sweaty from living a life where he actually has to get up and do things.
It's fine. It totally feels like something from an adventure serial.
Let's be fair, it's not supposed to be seen as normal for their culture, it's supposed to be another way of showing that they're depraved Thugees.
I'd totally watch a Re:View series on the six TOS Star Trek films with Mike and Rich. Kind of like the Nightmare on Elm Street videos Mike did with Jay. It would let poor Rich talk about Motion Picture without being too much of a retread.
"It's a culturally insensitive haunted house" I love that description
As a huge death metal fan, the Metal Blade-Redlettermedia crossover almost made me fall out of my chair. that was surreal
I'm sure I'm not the only one yelling at Rich that Mythbusters showed that the life raft is absolutely plausible for survival. The crash test dummy impact patches were all in the green, and it landed upright. It's a hard hit, but you might well walk away.
Mike, you’re one of the only other people I have seen who said that Temple of Doom was a formative, life-changing experience. It made me want to be a storyteller. It’s my favorite Indy, my first, and I’m just so glad that you appreciate it in a lot of the same ways. I’m still laughing about your not realizing that Shorty is meant to be working with Indy. Kate Capshaw is hilarious and I think her performance is underappreciated. I also think the boat scene could have worked if it were done better.
Rich, I agree. I need to know Shorty lives.
Great episode, guys. Respect.
Fun fact: Pat Roach, the actor that plays the chief guard that gets killed by the rock crusher while fighting Indy is also the guy in Raiders that’s killed by the flying wing’s propeller. He appears in the third film but I’m not sure as who.
Temple of Doom has one of my very favorite scenes. It's the one where Indy is fighting that thugee on the rock crusher. They're both trying to kill eachother, and at one point the thugee's clothing gets caught in the machinery and he starts getting pulled in about to be crushed and he starts screaming to Indy for help, and even though they were just trying to end one another, Indy starts trying to help save him because damn... what a rough way to go. The thugee died anyways, but I always appreciated that both of them got horrified about what was about to happen next and that Indy was decent enough to try to not let that happen.
He was the same actor who got shredded by the propeller in the first film.
Thugee? You mean thug?
@@Mindboggles That's actually where the term "thug" came from.
@@zombiTroutin good ole brown face
@@Mindboggles go look the thugee up, pretty cool story
'Crystal Skull doesn't exist.' you can sense the anger in Mike's voice
The heavy on the rock crusher is the same actor as the German that got chopped into itty bits by the propeller in Raiders.
He’s also the sherpa in raiders in the raven wood bar and he’s in last crusade for a brief moment. He had a much larger part in last crusade but they cut it out
Just watched Temple again. A terror of a film as a child, but could not stop watching but loved. A welcomed entry in the franchise. Introductory scene in the club is an awesome sequence. It takes its time building the scence. "Showing" the audience a scene rather than " lead me the way." through boring dialouge hand fed to me. Exposition!!
Short round. Charming. A great cast of unusual characters in an unusual circumstance works in this film. Caught Dan Akroyds cameo in the intro. Never knew!! His voice is iconic for me. 80's.
I love how the movie draws from all the other big genres of the 30s and paints them with the adventure serial brush: Musicals, gangsters and haunted houses.
Lucas kept pushing a haunted house idea and Spielberg hated it. He finally gave Lucas the castle in 'Crusade' to placate him.
@@cowetascore8476I believe Lucas wanted the entire 3rd film to be in that castle. Just straight up Scooby-Doo shit 😂
Fun fact: there was originally a line by Indy in the dinner scene where he and Short Round talk about how Indian Hindus don't typically eat meat, so there must be something up and they are trying to scare them away. But they decided to cut it because they felt it gave away the surprise of the temple.
It did seem obvious to me when I was about 13. You see Chattar Lal eating normal food with a fork, and the way the guy is smiling at 'chilled monkey brains' made it totally seem like an intentional gross out for the white and English guests. If you really hated someone who was a vegan and they were coming over for dinner, would you make big tomahawk ribeyes? Absolutely.
that stayed in the novelization that exists for some reason
@@kaiserruhsam These movie novelizations were great, because quite often, they were written based on an earlier script draft than what was actually shot (or shot, but edited out of the movie), so they often include some of the scenes that only years later saw the light of day with some special edition, or not at all.
Of course, wouldn't wanna give away the surprise of the temple in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
They should have included that line. Would have saved millions of Hindu kids in the west from the bullying that scene motivated
I'm laughing so hard at Mike being unwilling to believe Indy picked Short Round to be his getaway driver and Short Round just happened to be driving by.
I was born 95 but this movie somehow made it to my childhood movie list. Loved it. The part where the Sage dude rips out a heart was damn scary though - it's the only thing that I really remember to this day.
KALIMA! everyone loved that bit.
I like this movie because it seems the best-executed attempt Lucas and Spielberg made at capturing the vibe of those old serials. Lots of things give me that impression , like the over-the-top action scenes, the cheesiest acting of the trilogy, Indy's nonchalant attitude to Willie's hysterics, and a strong reference to the Gunga Din movie.
Goongas?
Return of the Jedi throne room also references Gunga Jin, Lucas must love that movie
This movie gave us (together with Raiders) some of the best LEGO sets ever made: I'll always cherish it for this.
Dude I had the idol temple from the beginning of raiders and it had a release that would make the boulder roll down the hall after indy. It was glorious
lolll dont get me started i regret passing up the raiders truck set as a kid
I especially like the period vehicles sets because Lego didn't do many at the time. The Shanghai chase was my favorite!
shoutout to lego indiana jones for xbox 360, that shit slapped. I had the double game case that came with kungfu panda which i remember being pretty good for a kids movie game
The pacing and timing of this episode is fantastic. Mike constantly ripping out Rich's heart is the real Temple of Doom.
Another interesting titbit - the stock Wilhelm Scream was used for its' original intended purpose in the sequence when all the Thuggis fall off the bridge. The original sound recording from 1951 was titled "Man getting bit by an alligator, and he screams" before it was known as the Wilhelm Scream!
I think the reason Spielberg wasn’t as thrilled about Temple of Doom was he was coming off a loss on best director for ET and was sick of getting crap from critics that he only made popcorn flicks - case in point, right after Temple, he made the Color Purple because he wanted to be seen as a “serious” filmmaker.
You can feel so much the Tintin influence in the Indiana Jones movies, which are both amazing.
James Bond, a pinch of Tintin, a dash of Allan Quatermain, it was a rich, exotic broth. Hence the immense Worldwide success of the original trilogy. And the fourth one.
It makes sense that Spielberg was the one to eventually make a Tintin movie
Indiana Jones actually does fight a Kraken in the game, Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb.
Rich Evans' laughter gets me through life. I'm serious.
Finally, a movie with an actor representing their age group
😂🤣
With Mike's dementia, I'm sure this was the second time he watched Temple of Doom for the first time!
Quick Side Note: For anyone interested in History or Punk-Metal Music - A Wilhelm Scream (Band) has an awesome song called *Kursk,* about the Doomed Russian Submarine the Kursk.
The lyrics are taken from the Last Written Testament of the Survivors.
If you ever wanted to hear a touching memoriam song about Doomed Submariner's taking their last dying breaths while Pufin the Posioner was vacationing in Crimea & Britain & Norway were literally begging Russia to let them help rescue the remaining Crew of the Kursk.
It's not very long & a very fitting tribute to the men who lost their lives because of Deferred Maintenance & Incompetent Leadership.
@@Claymann71why Do you randomly Capitalize Words in your Comment?
@JunkCCCP Why do You give a sh&t?
_The More You Know_
In college, I had a roommate from India who had never seen this movie and he thought it was hilarious. He loved the depiction of worshipping Kali. He said that real Kali worship on certain holidays involved getting hammered on whiskey and having sex.
Hey hey now that's something I can get behind.
Finally, a god that gets me.
Then he’s a privileged and probably fair skinned Indian. This movie *is* grossly offensive. Period.
@@theresaurus9820 it's offensive because of the cultural context and minoritized status of indians in the west, it's not part of any systems of oppression experienced by someone who grew up with india's domestic media.
@@kaiserruhsam Any Indian person who’s not white or lives in luxury would rightly condemn this movie.
Temple of Doom was pretty memorable. New adventure with different antagonists, it's pretty sweet.
I loved this film, the dark almost supernatural themes, the bugs, the heart rip, the flaming pit, the chilled monkey brains, the bridge finale all such great scenes.
Marion’s my favorite, but I like the idea of Indy having a companion in Willie who is less up to the task than his other female companions. The idea of Indy being saddled with a gangster’s Moll on an adventure is such a fun contrast.
And also, if your first film has Marion Ravenwood as the female lead, who's up there with Princess Leia as a cool, spunky, competent, kind of badass character, then you can get away with going for the complete opposite of hat in this film. As you say, the contrast is refreshing and imo at least, she's still a fun character. And she does end up more courageous by the end.
After all, Marcus exists in this universe, and he's cowardly, befuddled, meek and basically incompetent.
@@TheGeneralDisarray Another point that people often overlook is that *it has to make sense that we never see Willie again.* She's not Indy's girlfriend a year later. Is that surprising? No, because this movie makes it clear that they aren't really suited for each other and that if they hooked up it wouldn't last. She's a fling, but Indy's lifestyle is a total turn off for her, and she wouldn't have any interest in going on more adventures. Once she gets back to civilization, she's never leaving a city again.
Seeing those two pouring over Heavy Metal Album covers makes the episode. The Indiana Jones talk is just an added bonus.
It's definitely my favorite Indiana Jones movie.
Temple of Doom is a very classic, fun, timeless adventure story. It works without the Nazis and some Judeo-Christian religious artifact.
It would almost work as a Dungeons&Dragons oneshot.
Adventurer comes into small village. Villagers ask adventurer for help. Adventurer goes into cave, defeats evil cult and saves the village.
I believe that the plan the entire time was for Short Round to be the getaway driver from the club, and it’s just not explained how he knows where Indy is going to land. When they arrive at the airplane, Dan Aykroyd says that he has their 3 tickets. Originally planned to be Indy, Short Round, and Indy’s friend who died. Then his friend is shot and Willie takes his place. Why she gets on the plane is also not explained and kind of blurry.
Rich reaching for Star Trek and Mike pulling away was so funny
Guys, how did you not get how the greenery returns to the village. It's the fact that the damned up water is released. It takes Indy and company time to travel back to the village. Though the stones do have magical properties, it's still portrayed as somewhat superstitious in the movie that they associate the lack of water with the stones.
@@xunqianbaidu6917 Not immediately. Like he said, travelling back with all those kids probably took at least twice as long as getting there in the first place. Also, magic rock. Also, its a movie.
@@xunqianbaidu6917 if took then several days to get to the palace
I love the non-realism of that and many other parts of the movie. Makes it feel like a modern-day fairy tale.
@@jbard9892you can’t join into an autistic level discussion on the near-meaningless timescale of fictional flowers growing and then pull a “its just a movie” at the end. You’re either in, or you’re out.
The village turned green before Indy got the stone back there anyways
This is my favorite Indy film. The darkness and weirdness better reflects the spirit of old pulp magazine adventure stories than film serials, and I really appreciate that. i 100% believe Indiana Jones, the grubby and most irresponsible man, would ask a child to be his getaway driver
Temple of Doom was my favorite as a kid as well. I don’t quite understand the whole “it’s darker” thing people talk about though. Like yeah, there’s human sacrifice and gross-out scenes, but the series always had darker scenes. To me, until Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, this was most lighthearted of the franchise. Raiders of the Lost Ark took itself the most seriously for what it was (an action/adventure story based on ‘50s nostalgia), Temple of Doom was the goofier one, and The Last Crusade was one that explored who Indiana Jones is as a person… and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is the Ancient Aliens conspiracy bullshit one lol. Who let Dan Aykroyd write an Indiana Jones movie lmao?