What's up with Quaithe?
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- čas přidán 23. 04. 2015
- In Game of Thrones / ASOIAF, who is Quaithe? And what do her prophecies mean for Daenerys?
This video contains major spoilers for Books 1-5.
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7:00 Aegon IV Targaryen's Daenerys was a trueborn daughter, not a bastard
*David Benioff and D.B. Weiss:*
_"Lmao, who?"_
TroggieAK this video is about the books though
Wow all those people the quiate said to watch out for her screwed her over. Ugh we could’ve had so much one
Those f#*king hacks....they can eat shit and die.
@Charles Xavier true! imo season 4 was pretty okay too but after the death of tywin everything went downhill
@@Jak-ub3ds you completely missed the point of the comment
She was killed by budget.
Not killed by budget. She was just forgotten completely
@@davereyez4721 Well we can never know.
@@davereyez4721 I guess Dumb and Dumber just kind of forgot about it
@@leemurweeks While Dumb and Dumber kinda.. forgot about the Quaithe she certainly hasn't forgotten about them
@@wronski11 hbo wanted to give dnd more money but they said no
Maybe she's trying to say that the world is round, in the most ass-backwards way possible.
that actually makes sense lol
goshhhh that is a great way to put it
+knupder I think she has do her pfropercy, like She's from Pentos without any power, going east to Vaes Dothrak, gaining some dothrakis before losing them, then going East to Qarth gaining a ship, then going west to Astapoor, gaining Unsulied, Yunkai and then Meereen. lol idk what I'm saying
i was thinking the same thing
Be careful flat-earthers are everywhere ready to tear you apart.
Man, GRRM is one hell of a writer to make me be so interested in the story and watch these videos, even after the disastrous way the show ended.
As a Frank Herbert fan, I can’t decide if a bad ending is worse than no ending
@@icarusfx honestly I thought the “ending” was very fitting
But it was so bad ax nd didn't pay off shi. Dany goes crazy for no good reason Jon Snow doesn't even habe a good reason to come back to life. Every characters personality is butchered like Tyrion and Varys are dumb and useless now, Jon just turns into a wooden plank saying "I don't want it" over and over. I still enjoyed it cause everything except the writing is fantastic but its certainly not fitting lmao
@@DrayLoco, and that's the right reason to watch these, because they remind us that the books have the potential to be much, much better than the eminently forgettable TV series.
I could handle the show turning into a rushed joke with a pathetic ending tbh, but the really disappointing part is that we'll almost certainly never get an ending to the books. All these interesting mysteries and characters.... we'll never get an answer to them. GRRM seems to get less and less interested in finishing the books as time goes by, and he's certainly not got enough time left to write 2+ books at the rate hes going.
"Maybe with the loss of her gentler side, she'll become a bit of a bad guy"
This aged well...
Still stupid in season 8 as well
Right at the end “from peace and strength to fire an blood”.
The show executed it poorly but Alt was onto something.
It hasn't aged at all. George is still working on Winds of Winter at glacial speed, so we will have to wait and see.
Winds of Winter hasn’t even come out yet, wtf are you on about???
it aint gonna .GRRM is lost cuz of that .he doesnt know how to make her evil
Someone has an unknown past? Must be a targaryen.
@Stoneryoda 937 if there's not a secret Targaryen*
I want every person with an unknown past dead. Because they are all Targaryens.-Robert Baratheon.
10 years ago:
All the answers will be revealed next year in the new book which he guarantees he will finish next year.
😂😂😂😂
Targaryens are like what people say about Ghengis khan. Everyone is at least a little related to him
"To touch the light, you must pass through the shadow."
"To make an omelette, you have to break a few eggs."
Maybe it's just to say, "if you want to bring about a great change, you will have to commit some atrocities." 🤷🏼♀️
Ya that's what I said too. I thought it was a bit obvious to be honest XD
Good ol' Martin is taking his time to make sense of every prophecy.
Hello, George W
To make a tomelette you have to crack a few greggs
Ayyyy
And all this comes from the imagination of one man ... this is unbelievable ...
Haha excellent point. You know I often forget that this entire universe and all the commentary I read surrounding it spans from the day dreams of a single guy. I need to step up my day dreaming.
All in over twenty years
Even that doesn't do it justice, he's used an incredible amount of well documented and detailed real history, along with a lot of mythical and legendary stories, mixed it all together with strong story writing and clever characterisation, and then produced incredible language and literary techniques to create a masterpiece.Phenomenal effort, time and patience to create something as detailed as this.
Even that doesn't do it justice, he's used an incredible amount of well documented and detailed real history, along with a lot of mythical and legendary stories, mixed it all together with strong story writing and clever characterisation, and then produced incredible language and literary techniques to create a masterpiece.Phenomenal effort, time and patience to create something as detailed as this.
Much of it comes from fans, hundreds of them
Vaes Dothrak is beneath the Mother of Mountains, meaning it literally is in the shadows. Dany will return to Vaes Dothrak with the Khalasar and pass beneath the shadow
John Johnson To go west you must go east, fits there too!
John Johnson Yes, but some of his theories are just ridiculous
John Johnson But why would she go there? What could she find in Vaes Dothrak? She needs her Dragons which are in Mereen and her children are also on the other side of Essos. I think it's unlikly she will go there, although the theory fits the prophecy.
I think Dany will pass through Valyria (maybe on her Drogon) and find an artifact like Euron to bind her other dragons to her will. I think it was said in some chapter that Valyria is also clouded in Darkness, so I think it's more likely.
John Johnson The shadows means. the dragon eggs born place? As it was mentioned in the start of the show to Daenerys?
akrybion Vaes Dothrak have treasure of all the Dothraki conquests maybe A Dragon Binder is there too but the prophecy said that she will find the truth. Maybe the Old Khals wife knows something.
To me the "to touch the light you must pass through the shadow" bit reminds me of the saying "the night is darkest before the dawn." So it could just imply that in order to reach the "light" or a happy ending, she must first experience or do bad things (death, loss, etc).
I definitely noticed in the show how Dany's dragons were suddenly more connected with her when she became more brutal.
I mean that is the relation between dragons and the targaryen blood-line, "Fire and Blood."
no they were connected to her all the time lol. she never became brutal. she punished slavers for hurting 163 slaves! others would have done worse. her dragons sense her emotions. all targaryen dragons in fire and blood book mentioned can sense happiness pain and cry of their master. not brutality only lol. dany was incredible woman in books! and was dealing tactfully with mereen rebels who wanted to brinf slavery back even then her dragon the largest called drogon hurt child due to which she literally chained her dragons. and drogon flew and fled away. its all not synonym to dany or the brutal nature of dragons is not even mentioned as bad thing in books. her dragons are obv not gonna be soft hearted good bois. they all have diff personalities. her one dragon is lazy but the other is so fierce and some are playful. they ONLY are brutal when they sense danger or threat to dany their mother. so idk the show already ruined her excellentjob by the two idiots D&D but these two things u said arent related. all targ ancestors and prev targaryens were more cold and brutal sometimes but their dragons or anyone isnt brutal independently or hurt people without reasonm by that logic stark direwolves are also v v dangerous and aggressive bcs they pick up the trait and emotions of their owners. or kids. but it isn't really true
@@armaghan6223 not really. fire and blood is not just a relation to their dragons and them only. its just slogan too for their house . this statement has duality too. fire and blood are v much needed against the real enemies beyond the wall.
she was necessary ruthless .
@@herloss448she lives in ruthless times
Wow, this character seems way less important in the show. That's disappointing, she was one of the more interesting ones
She's probably Melissandre, or something - and Hot Pie is Azor Ahai.
+Mick G. Azor HotPie
Russell Wiener I'd like to see Dany's Hot pie!
Mick G. nah, by the time Khal Jhaqo, his entire khalasar and all his horses are done raping Dany to death breaking the hearts of all the little warrior princesses out there who luvz dem sum draguns her hot pie will look like the witch king of angmar went at it with his spiked Morningstar.
Russell Wiener I reckon the Dothraki all have tiny winkies though... why else world they compensate so heavily with curved blades, pony tails and leather pants?
+Russell Wiener that seems unlikely, she does have drogon by her side
*watches obscure GoT video on CZcams*
"I am the Three Eyed Raven now"
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Before the eggs were hatched, Dany kept telling herself "If I look back, I am lost."
Now Quaithe says "To go forward, you must go back."
The last time we saw Daenerys in the books, was when Khal Jhaqo found her munching at charred horse standing proudly beside Drogon. Jhaqo was of Drogo's khalasar, but left shortly before the hatching of the dragons. Perhaps Quaithe is telling her that she needs to win all of the Dothraki.
George isn’t the type to deliberately hide details for the sake of preserving the twist, so I think if Quaithe really were Shiara, he would have given her the mismatching eyes. However, he’s talked before about how he forgets eye colours, so she might just be a victim of that.
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Nah, that would definitely give her away. She probably used magic to change it. Mind you they think tyrion with mismatched eyes is a freak (and the conspiracy about the paternity of the lannister children and the mad king) and they would definitely put attention on her
I wonder if GRRM misspelled asshat and was like "hey this is a good name"
+DarkLordLink I really hope that's true
+DarkLordLink Could be, perhaps GRR might be running out of names. In book 6 the next city Dany conquers on dragonback is "Vaes Clusterfukkia"
What name are you referring to
ss... Asshai
"T" and "I" are actually pretty close on the keyboard xD.
When I read Daenerys X, I couldn't help being reminded of that part in the Lion King when Simba sees Mufasa in the clouds. "remember who you are"
aaannnd now we know Melisandre is an old woman so Quaithe might be too, just hiding it as well.
And the symbols on quaithe's face mask are the same as on melisandre's necklace
we don't know that
IchibanOjousama they look pretty similar if you compare them
We don't know that, because that is only shown in the show, and Quaithe's profecies appear only in the books. The two are very different, and we shouldn't mix them up.
the shape of the pieces of her masks are same on Melisandre's necklace... that's a solid clue there I think..
These videos are sooo confusing to someone who hasn't read the books it's unreal. I mean this universe is SO MASSIVE, so massive...
+LifeSaver996 It seemed that way to me at first, it honestly took me several tries to wrap my head around the books. But once you start learning who is who, who's important and who is a dead end (in GRR's world usually literally dead) and how the world of Westeros/Essos work, it does get much much easier and more interesting. I found even though i'd seen ALL the shows first, to me it did not make reading all the books less enjoyable at all. Books 1 and 2 are teh very best, 3 and 4 not quite but still essential to grasping the story, and 5 - well I'm looking forward to "Winds of Winter". If anything, you already know how the people should look like (the casting of the actors in the TV show is spot-on from the book descriptions and could not be better).
I don't read the book but I get it. All you have to do is watch more than one of his video.
I highly recommend reading the books! Just realize they are different and more complex from the show. They are both enjoyable.
I'm trying to find Canada on the map. Canada is The North
@@robertmaybeth3434 well people do look different in the books. caitlyn is more beautiful, bran and rickon look more like tullys, joff is bigger and very handsome, stannis and robert should be bigger, tyrion way uglier and so on.
I believe that by telling her "to reach the west, [Daenerys] must go east" Quaithe actually meant that she was not yet ready to go to Westeros, because she still lacked the forces and resolve she would eventually need to conquer the Seven Kingdoms, and had to literally find both those things in the opposite direction she was originally headed.
Quaithe's eyes remind me of Anne Hathaway
Hey maybe it is Anne Hathaway under there. We may never know.
***** I was kidding but that's cool to know.
God, I've watched like five if these in a row. Where have you been my entire life?
A video about who or what the White Walkers actually are would be nice. You could get into the Children of the Forrest connections and the story of the Night's King.
Legion Normandy problem is there are almost no informations on WW they come in winter and than there is legend about night king.
bruncla2303 There are plenty of theories about them being created by the Children of the Forest, them having some sort of aliance with the First Men, their relationship with dragons, if they're intelligant, whos leading the, etc. I'll admit that almost all of these are speculation, but there is actually a lot in the books that you can get ideas/conclusions from.
Legion Normandy Well, I read there's going to be more on them next season. As well as a scene about them that "will be bigger than Hardhome and will break the internet", so beware and brace yourselves....
giupinkfairy Where is that quote from?
Your videos are so good...i dont know why you dont have like 1 million subs already, with all the game of throne-fans there are out there
Agreed. He is so factual and interesting.
Because most GOT fans are filthy show casuals
Implantedclub I honestly dont know how show watchers understand whats going on, surely they cant understand the history, the geography and all the possible links between different characters from watching the show alone.
Lakanus Only the book-readers come here. We're a low percentage of the overall GoT fans now that the show came out.
Uiomi I gave up on the books at the beginning of the first and I am here anyway.
Bloodraven and Shiera were on the same side... I guess it can mean that they're trying to bring Jon and Dany together to defeat the others... not actually to pit them against eachother.
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Eadmund Isen-Healf too late
Eadmund Isen-Healf Come on now. A man can't just compliment a lady?
"To touch light you must pass beneath the shadow" she is saying that to go to oldtown (the lighthouse) you must pass beneath Asshai
So she is saying that the world is a circle and that through east she can to westeros
I'm sure someone somewhere has said this, but "to touch the light, you must pass under the shadow," sounds a lot like the requirements for wielding the sword of light of Azor Ahai. I wonder if like so many others in this series, Dany must become immortal, or narrowly escape a true death (fire doesn't count, it wouldn't kill a Dragon) in order to complete the prophecy.
Very perceptive. I have read the books more times than I care to admit, but never did I connect Light-Bringer & that prophecy...Nor have I heard anyone else make that assertion....Well done, good stuff..
Gabrielle Carolina. interesting... perhaps she needs to go through out something like jon snow went through
I was thinking the same thing. She’ll die and possibly be brought back by Milesandre, or die during the creation of lightbringer.
I legitimately theorized that Quaithe was Shiera before watching this. It makes me happy to know that you pointed it out as a possibility :)
Another excellent and informative video. A couple of things that occurred to me, though. First, small correction: at 6:52 you mention the first Daenerys as one of Aegon IV's bastards, and that's wrong. She was Aegon IV's trueborn daughter, full brother of King Daeron II. Remember, she married Prince Maron Martell of Dorne as part of the pact to bring Dorne into the Seven Kingdoms, which could never have happened if she was a bastard.
Also, could passing beneath the shadow be a reference to Drogon himself? The man whose daughter Drogon kills describes him as "the winged shadow", and scenes with Drogon (such as Daznak's Pit) frequently involve the passing of his shadow as the first sign of his presence. The change in Dany's personality you mentioned in Daenerys X ADWD comes soon after she rides Drogon for the first time, which could be what "to touch the light" refers to, since dragons "are fire made flesh". That last bit is admittedly a stretch, but the shadow part seems to fit.
Wolfeson28 Ah, damn, you're right about Aegon's Daenerys. Thanks for the correction. And yeah, Drogon might have something to do with 'passing beneath the shadow', but it's hard to fit that idea into the meaning of the rest of the prophecy.
Alt Shift X could it mean she had to drink shade-of-the-evening?
Yes the shadow part means that she must embrace and live with and trust Drogon. In the final chapter she passes beneath the"shadow" . Meaning pretty much that Dany has earned Drogon's respect.!
Alt Shift X isnt drogon called "the winged shadow" at some point? so if drogons fire if "the light" passing beneath the shadow to touch the light might make sense. she did touch drogon's fire. she would be embracing her inner dragon. it could also be some sort of enlightenment in which she realizes what she must do because she passed beneath the shadow.
I like the idea of Drogon being the shadow. That would mean "passing" isn't meant in the walking way but in the passing a test kind of way. She has to earn Drogon's respect and recognition to "touch the light"; to fly.
I still think she is in league with the faceless men: "I am no one." This is her reply when Ser Jorah asks, "Who are you?" Plus, wears a mask...
Solange Jolie possibly
I definitely think Quaithe and Shiera Seastar have a connection if they aren't the same person. But what's even more interesting to me is if you think about the idea of Ice and Fire you can fit Bloodraven and Quaithe (or Shiera or Shiera's great, great granddaughter or whoever she is) into Ice and Fire respectively as sort of prophets or guides to two major characters on the two sides of the world and the story.
That prophecy could also hint at the fact that Daenerys might have children in the future.
The Sheep people's witch said "When the sun rises in the west, sets in the east, when the seas go dry and the mountains blow in the wind like leaves"
Now Quaithe is saying something very similar, that Daenerys Has to go left to go right. Could that mean that she, by travelling upside down, might "see" the run setting in the opposite direction, and have her baby? Maybe by travelling to the opposite side of the world (not Asshai, but maybe Yi Ti) she i'll eventually reach a point where, just like in our hemispheres, things are reversed or something.
All the other predictions are possible metaphors. Mountains blowing? Think about the Wall being destroyed by the Ice Dragon, it was like a mountain being blown by literal wind (of ice...and fire). Or maybe a vulcano. Seas going dry? Could be anything: a lake burning up because of some fire caused by man, some dragon, some vulcano. Some natural disaster like in Valyria. Maybe the Old Ones from the Iron Islands evoked by Euron Greyjoy.
So maybe Daenerys might have a baby in the future and Quaithe is hinting on HOW she must do it. She must distrust all of those people and go "to" Asshai (but she might go to other far east places, like Yi Ti, where we know there is a Wall-Like fortress guarding the world from Dead People).
I find it curious that Valyria is the "Fire" place, where Targaryens come from, but it also ended by having "The sea burning up" and mountains (palaces?) destroyed, dragons almost gone, and now it's a place where only stone men live, like an Old vulcano, once filled with Lava, now just stone. And the stone men are said to infect others by touch, like the Others. Also, they are said to be ruled by this king, who was once pure stone, kissed by a stone woman...that all looks like the Night's King to me. So isn't it a little strange that the place of Fire became the place of Stone (maybe Ice)? Could this be a destiny of Targaryens?
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There is a theory that the witch was wrong and that dany was suffering a miscarriage in her last chapter, since there was a lot more blood than usual and she couldn't remember her last period. She may have been infertile before but I think that when she hatched the dragons it filled her with magic that erased the witch's magic
"In the Shadow Lands beyond Asshai, they say there are fields of Ghost Grass, with stalks as pale as milk that glow in the night, murders all other grass. The Dothraki believe that one day, it'll cover everything, and that's the way the world will end."
Is north of the wall beyond asshai perhaps?
I love your videos just like everyone else here. Your explanations are thorough, well supported and easily understood, just great.
What about a video on patch face and his nonsensical yet prophetic sayings? Or perhaps one on all of the song of ice and fire prophecies in general? Just an idea, either way I hope to see more!
Cheers! Yeah Patchface is one of the most requested video topics.. will probs get to him some time soon (:
+Alt Shift X The shadow of old valyria where she can learn about dragons and stuff
patchface would be awesome
Sam Kemp
+Alt Shift X A year later and still no Patchface video.. :(
Please do the Grand Northern Conspiracy video
Ronin5B Hell yea, that would be awesome, but the whole one not only the North, the Riverlands are fighting for the North too ;)
Ronin5B Yes, Please!
Catelyn Tully Not to mention we still don't know where your uncle is pissing.
NJRanirishnirvana
Hahahaha, well in the books we know but i dont think the show will add that :(
Catelyn Tully Wait, do we know where he went? I thought all we knew was that he escaped from Riverrun and went somewhere.
watching this right after The Red Woman...GUYS THIS THEORY IS SO MUCH MORE LIKELY NOW
+Sam Limmer Yeah, I wonder what Quaithe would look like without her mask on...I doubt it would be fapworthy, lol.
Sam Limmer Quaithe is kinvara the high priestess. she is keeping Dany safe as she believes Dany is the princess that was promised
When's the next video? You do amazing work. Few ideas that you could do great with: dragonglass theories or how you like or dislike the differences from the show and books.
marcialromero1218 A short video will come out very soon - and yeah a dragonglass video could be interesting
I think you're amazing. Truly your videos are insightful, funny, and most importantly entertaining. Literally not enough praise i could give. Two question 1) how frequently do you post videos or do you just do it when time permits? 2) how do you decide on non GoT videos? I enjoy those as well. Maybe a video or traveling at the speed of sound or light?
marcialromero1218 Thank you (:
I just post videos when time permits, aiming for at least one video per two weeks. I choose whatever topics happen to interest me - so yeah, maybe it's about time for another physics video...
Alt Shift X NOW MORE THAN EVER THAT DRAGONGLASS VIDEO WOULD BE EXTREMELY GREAT
Alt Shift X quaith was once in the army and jaemy was her square, jaemy talks about her in one of the episode and he said she likes to painting but she only uses the color red,after that it shows quaith painting using blood(red)
Can't they just send Jorah to Asshai looking for his cure in the show? I want so see Asshai by the Shadow so badly.
Asshai is equivalent to Minas Morgul of LOTR world. One does not simply go there !
@Dalton K I really want to read the books mainly for all the far Eastern stories, legends, and heroes. They don't really talk about it in the shows I hope they do in the future prequels and other spinoffs.
@@vigzy77 It's Mordor, not Minas Morgul where one does not simply go. But no, it's not really like either of those places. I think in the first book when Drogo dies Jorah suggests going there and that alone does not really sound like it's this place where you go and never return.
I know you've done most of them, but do you plan to cover all the main theories that are floating around? I'd love to see a video where you talk about The Grand Northern Conspiracy (lengthy) and of course Coldhands.
I'd like a video exploring the connection between the Starks and their wolves. How their personalities and maybe more are reflected by the wolves and vise versa.
Even if we don't have facts as much as curious observations to go by.
Had a great time with this video, just like others. Thanks as always.
You are probably correct but I also like the theory that Old Nan is Shiera and that is why she was always at Winterfell to near Bloodraven.
+jltavare That could be, since everyone from Maester Luwin to Theon think Old Nan is just a jimmy big fibber and an "old bat" and that her tales are just so much nonsense. Yet every tale Old Nan told the Stark kids turns out to be correct sooner or later. She mentions the white walkers, the "long Night that lasted a generation (20 years)" mammoths and giants and the Children of the forest. None of the adults believes her tales. Yet as we get more into the story, there they all are. And back to her identity - there is no mention of Old Nan's fate, after Theon took over Winterfell. Her body is never found, nor is she ever mentioned again. Old Nan just disappears.
+jltavare I like that a lot. I think Bloodraven and Old Nan are really the villains. Old Nan manipulated Willis to unleash The Great Other, Hodor. Bloodraven is manipulating Bran to use the dragons against the human armies. Bran wargs into a dragon, flies down towards the battle, then suddenly recognises Jaime Lannister goes beserk.
+Jago Sevetar I read a theory about the end game that sounds very plausible. Dany will fight for fire, Bran will be the representative for the Others for ice, and Jon will be the ultimate mediator of the two.
Isn't Old Nan Hodor's grandmother?
ZinaD Yeah it could be. I don't think it will be like that in the show, but in the books it might.
Your videos are so enjoyable! They increase my delight in the books.
Great video alt shift x. I love your well planned and knowledgeable script accompanied by useful visuals.
You're burning through all these theories so quick it's hard to know which ones you haven't gotten too already. Ummm... There are small ones like the one about the maesters killing the dragons, who is the hooded man in WInterfell, what the hell happened to Tyrek Lannister (seriously though, Varys?). The only big ones left though are The Great Northern Conspiracy, Grand Tyrell Conspiracy, and Southron Ambitions.
I guess you could do Frey pies as well, it's not really a mystery/theory (heavily implied in text) but it would still be fun to cover for the show watchers who don't mind book spoilers. There aren't many left anyway, lol.
supervegeta101 I have not heard of the Grand Tyrell conspiracy or Southron Ambitions.
supervegeta101 Has he done the fAegon theory? He briefly mentioned it in this video when he talked about the Mummer's Dragon, but I don't recall him making a video about it.
Theres allso a new popular theory, that says that, theres a dragon under hardhome, and how it couls change jon, bassicaly hardhome burned doen it was implied in the text by dragon fire an tje valyrians where there asswell as a oar of an imvassion plan
johncio91
The Grand Tyrell is one that basically says Loras is alive and well and only took a few, if any ships, to Dragonstone and that he took the rest of the Redwyne fleet to sail back to Shield Islands and protect the Reach from Iron born.
Southron ambitions is more involved but the TL;DR version is that the Mad King was right to be paranoid. Rickard Stark was working with the other great houses to form an alliance to remove Aerys and make Rhaegar King. towerofthehand.com/blog/2012/01/05-southron-ambitions/
supervegeta101 Oh ok i had thought the grand tyrell was something to do with Margarey finally becoming queen.
As for southron i had heard about this recently and did not know it had a name.
please please please make a video about Patchface. he's very fascinating and interesting character.
Dz1go I would love the next video to be about Patchface and his prophecies!
Your wish is granted.
DragonTigerBoss lol
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Best asoiaf analysis I've come across. Awesome stuff man, keep it up.
another excellent video! Thank you for researching and making these, we enjoy them!
There could also be more to the "To go forward, you must go back" idea. The Dothraki will obviously take Dany back to Vaes Dothrak to follow their traditions concerning the widows of the khals, and Vaes Dothrak is east of both Meereen and her ultimate goal of Westeros. And considering the fact that she is almost certainly going to meet Jon suggests that she is going to start her invasion of Westeros in the south, but then goes north to join/meet Jon.
Also, going back to her roots doesn't necessarily mean that Dany is going to become a villain, just that she's going to be a conqueror
keep it up man. Your edits are so insane.
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These are the best A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones related videos. Thanks for taking time for making these really appreciate it.
Great video, Thanks!
I was always wondering about Quaithe. Its nice to see someone putting all the information together so coherently. :)
Well, she might want to help Danny because she brought dragons to life, and with them she seems to have awakened magic, so it comes to reason that a sorceress would want this, to make sure that magic returns as strong as possible (kind of an exact opposite to the supposed maester conspiracy, wich Marwyn also seems to be against, wich would explain why he and Quaithe/Shiera could be working together)
Dany's always done what other people told her to. Go to this place, be with this guy, act like this, be this way, etc. She's been given more responsibility and expectations than anyone can handle. It seems more like what happened in the desert was her wake up call to take control of her life and stop trying to live up to other people's expectations.
Wow, just wow. Your videos are always so informative and well thought through, especially with the extensive use of quotations. It must take you ages to find all those quotations and then piece together these theories.
Awesome video! Thanks for making them, definitely the best ASOIAF theory videos out there. I'd love to see something about Benjen Stark.
Dude!! You predicted Dothraki will join Danny almost a year ago!! Kudos to you sir
A Dance With Dragons has been out since 2011 so yeah lol
Another great video! Could you do a video on Melissandre, "The Red Woman" and her motivations, plots, and history? I would appreciate it if you could. If not, thanks all the same.
Thanks again and keep up the great work!
Just saw this get posted to the sub. Loved the video, and I have since subscribed after watching all of your other ones. Keep up the great work and I look forward to any and all future videos!
love you ASOIAF videos man, keep them coming!
Another great video :) Even though it's kind of a minor theory, could you cover the theory about Loras Tyrell being alive and the suspicious events at Dragonstone? It'd be cool to see you give your take on some small theories or just dismiss them outright, so that they can stop plaguing my brain.
SpaztasticSheep A video about Loras could be cool actually - could talk about differences between his portrayal on the show vs. the books.
Alt Shift X would be awesome :) I'm glad we get to see much more of his character in the show and better understand his relationships with other characters as well, he always felt like a mystery to me when reading the books.
Alt Shift X you make the best videos. I like them before I even start because I know their going to be great, but please don't waste your time with Loras. Their are so many better things you could cover other than Loras Tyrell.
"to touch the light, you must pass beneath the shadow" could be as simple as "to accomplish true good, you must have a taste of evil and darkness". To conquer and to take over, she has to be capable of conquering, and all the things that come with it.
YESSSSS new video! Every day I go on my subscribed list of CZcamsrs, looking for this. Just want to thank you for all your awesome videos! Keep up the good work :)
I already loved these videos, but then a Trnacious D reference? I am already subscribed!
It's a compelling argument. And there is decent evidence to support it. However, couldn't Quaithe also possibly be Ashara Dayne? Of course, for this to be possible, you would have to embrace the idea that R+L = D & B+A = J, involving a baby swap, and also explaining why Eddard's thoughts throughout his story line in the books focus so much on Daenerys (a Targaryan child he supposedly doesn't even know) but very little on Jon (supposedly his own son). And it would also explain why when Jon asked about his mother, he never said to Jon, "you are my son." Instead, he said "you have my blood." Meaning that at the Tower of Joy, Eddard found Lyanna in a bed of blood, having just given birth to...a white haired baby Targaryan girl, thus making the "promise" one to keep her safe and out of the reach of Robert, who had vowed to kill all Targaryans. Also meaning that Eddard couldn't very well return to Winterfell with a white haired Targaryan baby without raising a few eyebrows...meaning a baby swap with Ashara Dayne at Starfall, since Ashara had already given birth to a baby shortly before the alleged birth of Lyanna's child at the Tower of Joy. Now, many embracing this idea believe that this would clearly make Jon Eddard's son, because its believed that Eddard & Ashara had a thing. But at the tourney at Harrenhall, where Ashara allegedly got knocked up, if you recall, Eddard spent the evening in his tent with Howland Reed, because he had room in his tent for another since his brother Brandon hadn't returned that evening. Brandon was dancing with Ashara earlier that evening, while Ned, Howland, & his siblings were all busy devising plans of vengeance against the squires who had assaulted Howland earlier. So if she got knocked up that evening, it wasn't by Eddard. So Ashara giving birth to a dark haired baby, swapping the child for Eddard's new niece, and then faking her suicide to protect against anyone even thinking of looking for her OR the baby, makes much more sense. This would also clear the way for Ashara to travel to Ashai to study the various different magics to be learned there. It would also explain why, if she is actually Quaithe, that she wears a mask, as Ashara was also a very beautiful woman of note, and possibly easily recognized. Sorry for the extremely long explanation. I'm just a bit frustrated that the show hasn't played up Quaithe's significance as much as it is in the books.
the more i find out from the books the angrier i get at the show for not playing certain people but the show and book will most likely be very different from this season onw3ard
Make a video about the "Master Plan" of Doran Martell and how Daenerys Targaryen may be involved since its birth.
Thank you, congratulations and keep up the excellent work in these videos!
Absolutely love your videos. Can't wait to see more content!
your theories are great! I love your videos!
Once again another amazing video. Keep it up man I fucking love your videos!
These are such great videos. Easy to follow, informative, and objective. I would love to see one about the Grand Faceless Man Theory and the Grand Tyrell Conspiracy.
You got 15000 views in one day dudd PUT MORE VIDEOS OUT WE LOVE YOUR STUFF! you and Preston Jacobs and red team review are my top 3 fav and have the most interesting and informative videos about GOT
Once again, a very good video. I like to heard your theories and all the explanations you give. Please continue like that.
A french fan !
You should definitely do the Bloodraven theory.
I'd love to see a spin-off Biopic on Sir Barriston with major asoisf sequences and events and occurring in the background. He was involved in so much.
+Brian Jacobs I'd love that to. Barristan has an awesome origin story.
Damn your videos are great.. all of these theories and how you explain them is awesome..keep up doing them! :D
Wow, I'm loving these videos. Subscribed.
the shadow is under the horse statues entering dothraki city.
Pass beneath the shadow to get to the light could just mean that she has to make a decision which will cause a lot of misery and darkness first, before it leading to ultimate improvement and have ultimately positive consequences, which would fit the fire and blood thing.
Your videos make me exited when they drop in my sub box, keep up the good GOT vids!
Your theories are a true inspiration! Definitely makes me want to read the books ASAP! I watched GOT in record time, and every time I check the library, or the book store, the books are not all in stock...i am ordering them online right now...
Thanks for all of the insight!
We think Quaithe is Ashara Dayne
She would be the right age
Daynes are also associated with Stars
(Dark Star Star of the Morning)
Whose body was never found
Went to Ashai for shadowbinder training
Learned how to use Dragonglass candles
knew Dany as a small child in Dorne B4 Pentos
which explains the recurring dreams
about lemon trees as a child.
Would unify many plot points and the Dornish master plan.
I always thought that Quaithe is Ashara Dayne.
Aaron Frank this is another theory floating around
kingstoken And that Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne.
EVERYONE is Ashara Dayne. ;)
:D Kinda like Dario is Euron and Harpy and certain Lannister and what not ....basically Dario is everybody.
In fact GRRM maybe using duality here as well
FM and Arya are NO One
Ashara ,Euron and Dario are EVERY One .LOL
Right, i always thought that i am the only one who know that secret.
Very glad I found you. Great job!
Well done! This might be my favorite of all the theories
Welcome to Asshai, please indicate your reason for visiting:
(x) General shadowbinding
weakboson is KL ASSHai ..lol
Juicy review! :D
For a future topic (involves spoilers from up to the same ADWD chapters):
Did Mirri Maz Duur intentionally kill Drogo and his and Dany's unborn child way back in AGOT by applying false medical care to his wounds or when casting the blood ritual, or did she not at all, and had her instructions been heeded things would have turned out rather differently for Dany. Also - in the last Dany chapter of ADWD, did Mirri's "When the sun sets in the East" prophecy complete, and what might be the consequences of it if it has?
Andris Stafeckis Not Drogo, he did of being pig headed. She said don't drink, he got hammered. She said keep the wound clean and change the bandages, he smeared mud in the wound and mocked her. He died of an infection, but I think she did kill the baby intentionally.
Andris Stafeckis How do you explain the description of the child when Danny awakes. If the description was correct and the skin was falling off the child was already dead.
johncio91 Mirri also said that if the shadows are dancing, no living people is allowed to enter the tent.
Jorah entered the tent with Dany and her unborn child...
That was probably a warning because she could of known the shadows would harm those who enter. When the ritual began.
Andris Stafeckis As supervegeta101 said before, Drogo's death was mainly his own doing but I would think Mirri did not want the "Stallion Who Mounts The World" to be born (after what happened to her and her people it's understandable) so she made sure Rhaego won't survive. It was essentially a "would you kill baby Hitler in his crib" kind of deal and she did not hesitate to pull the trigger. Dany asking for a blood magic ritual to save Drogo was a convenient excuse to get rid of them both.
I love watching your videos. I do not read books becouse I cant find any in my country, but when I watch your videos I see that you are only puting stuff and quotes from books. I now realise how little I know about Game Of Thrones. Really like them, I see that GoT world from show is like 3% from books and much more diffrent. You are awsome!
Wow! This is the most informative Quaithe video. Subscribed
6:38
"maybe she'll become a bit of a bad guy"
hmmm. maybe.
Please do the TheNorthRemember/Manderly stuff :D
These videos are really informative and cool. Top-notch stuff, mate.
Would love to see a video on the whole "Cersei and the Valonqar" prophecy and hear your thoughts/theory on it!
I know there are a few possibilities as to who it may be..
It would be super cool if you do a prediction to the end of the books/ show. And the future of the main characters. You always have so much information and support your theories so well!
Please do a prediction video ! :)
can you do a video on the summer isles, you know, for fun!?
Could you please make a video on the Grand Northern Conspiracy or Why the Maesters don't want Dragons in this world? :D
amazing amazing amazing video. You continue to impress. Keep up the good work.
Love the videos I think they are great. I like how you give all the evidence not just ones that back up the theory or claim. You should do a video about coldhands. Also some other interesting video ideas are Maggy and her prophesy, dragon glass and dragonsteel, the white walker king from the show, and the nights children. Maybe the horn of winter? (not sure if that's the right name. It's the one that supposedly will bring down the wall if blown.)
Truth is in Asshai? Isnt Truth one of the lost valyrian swords?
ekeb1 The valyrian sword Truth is only mentioned once, in A World of Ice and Fire, so it's hard so say weather it is considered "lost" in the same way as Brightroar or Lamentation, but from the readers perspective the whereabouts of Truth is certainly not known.
what if Quaithe is the new Red Woman????
yo what if shes ashara dayne bc they never found her body
CMLZ YT oooooohhhhhhhh sheeeeeit
Or Shiera Seastar....
Vincent Vega quaithe is said to have "wet eyes" and ashara's "death" dealt with her drowning
Were there any witnesses to Ashara's suicide? And did she go all the way to Asshai to become a Shadowbinder, what evidence do we have?
I'd love to see you do a video on the Grand Northern Conspiracy! Keep up the good work.
Very good. I'd forgotten that bit about the dragon glass letting people enter dreams and create visions. Brilliant Pick of Destiny reference btw.
Maybe a little video about what Dany saw at The House of the Undying. Like all the threes, "child of three" "three-headed dragon" "three fires, three mounts, three treasons." I'd be interested to hear your speculation on all that.