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You've convinced me. My job doesn't teach me anything, I'm paid to keep a seat warm and it's slowly killing me. This weekend I'll be emailing my local electrician union to find out what steps I need to take. Thank you for this push!
That's about where I am...money is okay, but it's sucking my soul out through my ass and taking most of my brain cells with it. I'm pretty much to the point that I'd rather get run over by a semi than drive one ever again.
I’m considering the same thing.
Even better, go to the union hall. Show up, ask questions. Make yourself noticed.
I joined my local union straight out of school, no regrets so far. The amount of stuff I've learned and yet to learn is staggering.
How'd the email turn out?
I'm a subsea inspector
I started sweeping floors at a car parts and industrial sales company. 14 years later I left as a manager, loved the people, loved the company loved the work, I HATED being a manager.
I said yes to everything, no job too shitty or too hard.
I learnt so so much listening and learning; I asked questions to things I wanted to learn.
When I left I went to my new company, they needed a all-rounder that could learn and not fold if shit went sideways.
Shit has gone sideways a few times.....ok, I've had rectal fluctuations and a couple of "significant emotional events". But 17 years on Monday at this I've seen and done awesome stuff.
Because I was willing to learn(and be out of my comfort zone).
If you're willing to learn, the old guys will teach you.
I'm really glad you were able to find some assistance in developing your own skills to further your career.
I've been a machinist for about 2 ½ years now and have had the exact opposite experience. I took the first position I could in a shop and when I finally got on a machine, my "mentor" couldn't (it was actually WOULDN'T) help me with anything beyond the buttons to push to make it run. But if shit went sideways or something got squirrelly, he'd just give a shrug and tell me he wasn't sure how to even try to address x or y.
This man helped develop and design this machine, and was due to retire in less than two years. I had to figure out solutions pretty much entirely by myself with just an operators manual. And I did! But God damn, not having a lick of experience with machining or manufacturing made it so stressful and upsetting. I've gotten better, even if the shit I've scrapped is probably into the six digits worth of material cost and labor. Thankfully I'm handy and resourceful but finding anyone to help teach me has been fruitless for any endeavor in this field, comfort level be damned.
I am still glad that not every place or field is like that, I think I just have a bad picker when it comes to deciding where to work.
Thank you guys! You’re right, the Internet needs this almost 5 minutes of solid gold life-changing information.
he ain't no elechicken!
Apprenticeships are great if you can get in to one.
Some of us paid to go to trade school, and when we got out, we were earning more than enough money to justify the cost. Community colleges have vocational programs that are very affordable. If anyone cares to know, I was able to pay off my trade school loan entirely my first year working.
The IBEW was only taking in x amount of apprentices in 2005, so rather than wait I chose a trade school. I regret nothing.
I feel like you and AvE need to have a good sitdown chat. And put that here, please.
Yessss
I’ve rode both side of the fence, and I’ll take the union side any day, I’ve been an electrician for 30 years, 25 of that union and love every day. I’ve worked at power plants with the millbillies and they’re great 😊
By the looks of it, you'll also be needing One Bourbon, One Scotch and One Beer.
But he prefers to drink alone, just him and his good pal Walker and his buddy black and red
What separates the people who make in the trades and the people who wish they could is the mental fortitude to stick with it.
Well, also the initial opportunity. I wanted desperately to be a welder when I was a teenager and couldn't even do it for free. Took an opportunity to get a CDL as a backup option, and that's saved my bacon
There's definitely a right place right time element of luck in this.
2 good men with hearts of gold for being willing to explain. Very cool
This is a good video, more people need to know about the trades. We NEED to keep our infrastructure going. I am a union stagehand, so I am right there with my fellow union members of every trade. The trades built this country, the trades are how we are going to keep it going, union strong.
i love your videos! im an apprentice electrician right now with a large power plant, i was previously an auxiliary operator. i also came from an automotive manufacturing background with robotics. i also got an associate degree in instrument and controls, i agree exactly with what this guy is putting down.
Been having a hard time with my job and I’m absolutely gonna do this
The "no one is hiring" argument is usually missing an ending phrase "where I want to live right now". There are plenty of starter positions out there, but of course starting out they often are going to be at less than desirable locations. For my industry they usually will run you through school, but the agreement to work for x years at the company in return does come with a heavy financial penalty if you break that contract.
Many trades/industries are still trying to recover from the massive loss of senior experience that happened with all the early retirements that occurred during covid. And sometimes that has been pushing companies to try and poach talent wherever they can. I've seen a bit uptick in recruiting calls coming my way in the last 12-18 months.
The housing market is keeping a lot of folks stuck where they are. Why would I trade my 2.75 mortgage for 5 percent or higher?
Yeah NEVER agree to shit with a company worth 50 billion dollars, they will use you up like a drill bit and discard you. Just learn your trade and be your own man… you dont need to cut a deal with the devil to learn your trade.
You make it look like it’s so easy to just move with these house prices. What if they have mortgages?
I'm in a similar job as this guy. The biggest note I herd from him was he cracked the books and taught himself what he needed. He took the initiative. You have to be a self motivated person to do this work.Always wanting to learn. Don't worry about bugging us old guys.The ones that bug get taught things. Next, if you have a slack minute, don't be sitting and playing on your cell phone.Have a broom in your hand, emptying the trash, picking up tools, ect. It is noticed.
This is what I'm doing in my college internship program, except I'm the first, haha
I'm in tech, but I have years of "unprofessional" electrical experience. I would Love to change careers, except starting at an apprentice wage isn't an option
It's one of those things, I'm burnt out on tech and have the skills to do electrical but can't financially afford 4 years of lower pay 😔
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Same here. I'm a service technician in the electronic security industry making good money but I've always thought about following in the footsteps of my father who was an electrician. I've had much knowledge passed on to me, plus a bunch more self-taught. I've thought about changing industries and becoming an electrician but always borked at the thought of having to take lower pay for a 4-year apprenticeship.
It's a shame we can't do some sort of RPL (recognised prior learning) and skip all the bits we already know. If something like that existed I could probably blitz the entire apprenticeship in less than a year, but it doesn't.
And it's not like I've got the spare time to do that sort of thing on the side as well as my existing job, so it seems like I'm just stuck now really.
Go ask questions. I have a technical collage degree and was given credit for 1 yr of apprenticeship as well as one yr of apprenticeship schooling. I was also 2nd on the intake list after my collage degree. The local IBEW hall is even advertising for apprentices on the radio. There is a shortage of tradesmen as us older folks retire. 37 yrs later, I am retired and have been debt free for 20 yrs.
It's tough when you're deep into adulthood with expenses and liabilities, I couldn't change course til the right time and place. I just went from 10y of IT to a manufacturing/engineering adjacent support role within the same company, a local high-tech manufacturing org, lateral pay to start. No background in it but I did 2y of impactful work and have a good rapport with everyone except my old boss & boss's boss lmao. Lots to learn and future opporunities that aren't just management.
In about a year I should be trained on all the processes and systems, all the while dealing with lots of the same old that really should never have been IT's problem. I never minded the L1 stuff anyways, that's when I got to teach people that wanted to learn.
Thanks for this! I've worked bicycle retail for the last decade or so, and have been looking at making a switch to the electrical trade. I've also been considering millwright, but the career path flexibility of electrical is pushing me in that direction. I appreciate the advice in this video! It confirms a lot of my research and other conversations I've had about it. Great channel! Keep it up 👍
Got my first job at a combined cycle plant as an operator, absolutely love it
"first of all you need to reconsider your life choices. nobody wants to do this" - me, for cybersecurity.
What don't you like about cybersecurity?
I started about two months ago as an industrial electrical maintenance tech. I’m hoping eventually I can move onto instrumentation and then to the power plant nearby. I love this trade and it feels like I was genuinely born for it
I work at a combined cycle plant for Duke energy in the Midwest. Duke is willing to give you a shot if you're mechanically inclined and willing to learn. We have operators from all kinds of backgrounds. Myself personally came from the industrial maintenance field. Apply somewhere and give it a shot, it's a rewarding career.
This story is close to my own. I got hired for shit pay as a maintenance mechanic at a small manufacturing plant. I worked my way into a plant electrician for shit pay at a small manufacturing plant until I was qualified as an instrumentation technician at a large manufacturing plant for good pay. Constantly educate and inprove yourself, sometimes at company cost, and you too can work in heat, cold, greese and grime for shit pay until something better comes along.
These kids today don't want compromise or work their way up, they want pay and management out of the gate. They have been told the older generations are stupid, racist, etc by schools, media and social media.
he's right about the trades thing: It's not just a job. You're born for it or you ain't. But if you've got a pulse, at least half a brain, and some ambition: you qualify for the trades. And we are all looking for people.
Our grandparents' generation traveled anywhere, literally, for work. My wife's grandfather shipped off to a government construction program pre-WW2 in multiple areas around the country and the government split his check, giving him a little, but paid the rest into his wife's account back home. My father-in-law worked hours away from home, and just ate the commute time, commuted home to start his second job. You see some of this spirit in people like travelling nurses, who take jobs far off to meet their needs.
This video wins me over on the power of the T-shirt alone!
If I went full time service tech in the automation industry I could easily charge $90 / hr (CHEAP compared to most companies) (my company charges 105/hr for my work when I do act as a service tech). I don't really want to do that kind of work though. Like this guy, I've followed a similar path except I went to the Canadian equivalent of Community college for "Electrical engineering - Automation". Got a job at an integrator immediately after. Learned A LOT OF STUFF since then. These days I work on and build/design all different sorts of industrial equipment. Electrical design, panel design/build, PLC programming, robotics programming (with most of the big brands and some of the smaller ones). I would LOVE to have my hand at working at a power plant, I think it would be fun and informative. Especially seeing how your plant is run. Smaller, not a giant corporation, etc. perfect fit.
Been asking for this video and I think this is pretty cool
The takeaway is: don’t sit around and wait for someone to offer you a good job. Get off your butt, apply to a trade that interests you, do what you are told and you can get a good career, without debt. Learn as much as you can everywhere you go. Nothing you learn is ever a waste.
Also SEEK OUT PEOPLE and talk to them.
they aren’t totally wrong. im a hydroelectric systems technician in california and the wages aren’t really keeping up. i’m the youngest guy in our small crew by 20 years and the guys before me have all been able to buy nice houses and all kinds of toys with the job throughout their years. i can’t afford anything but a duplex with the wage.
No better decision I made then to apply to the IBEW. It changed my while life.
Millwright was the best thing i decided to do 😎
one day i’ll be there 🤞
Now there's an old familiar voice! Good advice too, couldn't have said it any better. Get into the trades folks!!
Brother has a voice for voice over. I thought it was a fake, comedy voiced-over interview for a second when he started.
I got into an apprenticeship in 2018 making about $19.50/hr. Now, as a journeyman, I make $58.81/hr. An apprenticeship is worth it if you can land it
Show up and care. That's all it takes.
My background is I work at a power plant and I take care of the steam turbines are in the machines and I’m a certified welder also and an instrument technician and when you get paid $62 an hour it’s a good job been there for 23 years and we always need electricity, so I’m not going anywhere and I can’t be outsourced to China so do what they say get yourself an apprenticeship and don’t go to college is useless from people right now
People want red seal pay for apprentice knowledge. Put the time in and prove you are worth the pay
I’m a power engineer that is training students and the one I have now is always talking about pay rates but can’t answer simple questions about the plant .
From school to an apprenticeship, then get on every course a company will put you on. That's how I was lucky enough to do it (over in the UK).
My way was to be an auto tech for 23 years, learn 5 and 12vdc electrons in and out, then gets scouted/hired by an industrial electrician 22 years late. Talk about erasing bad "bare elbow habits" I built for 2 decades in one tingle... (panel guys know what I mean)
I have a bachelor's degree in theatre. I worked for 16 years touring with big concerts and tours. I left all that behind to get an associates degree in power plant operations. Now I work at a nuclear power plant. (You can go to a two year school for stupid cheap degree, and hop right into the trades.)
Everyone should hear this! The only thing that I would add is that for those who are feeling especially froggy, they should apply to the Navy nuclear power training program as an electrician. No better way to accelerate learning into three phase power.
I'm a steeplejack and I work with people with some crazy skills.
I already did CNC courses in college, and mess with Arduino and mains projects. sounds like fun!
Ah now i finally know what the job my granps did is called in English lol.
He worked as millwright in a steel milll, also as master so he was allowed to have apprentices, its regulated pretty intensely in Germany.
Apprentices in a trade are paid, if you do shit like me like labtech it costs tuition but its not really super expensive here, like it was like 200 per month.
Never worked in the job, got fucked health-wise and now just do like very manual work but I like it lol
You don't even have to pass the test of the union gives you to get in. It's just how they decide what your skill level is.
I want to build a geothermal power station for my house using turbines that run on steam from a liquid with a lower boiling point than water so i dont have to dig as far down! Lol, its a dream!
I love you thank you for your comment. I do want to do this.
Seriously, I love you.
I’m going to my interview for the apprenticeship program later today wish me luck👍
ik some good carnivals, you would pick up a lot of useful things.
This is awesome information
The apprentices where I work are coming out of highschool into their first adult job, completely untrained, 17yo, getting paid as much as the median full time worker in Australia.
I'm looking to get out of turbines myself main reason "our work doesn't count towards electrician training" even thought I work on electrical systems every damn day..... also 300 foot climbs suck😅
Did my apprenticeship back in 1976-1980 for Machine Repair in a Company represented by the Teamsters Union. The best thing I ever did.
How do you do it without being part of a union. Some parts
Of the us haven’t completely lost their mind and allowed the unions to take over 😊
Did 3 years as apprentice, 2 years of which were schooling. One year roughly of on the job.
I look back at all the different directions i could have gone, and i chose automotive. 25 years later, and I'm beat to death, worn out, and looking for the exit
Even if you do start out on a low-paying job. Do it to the best of your ability. But while you do be looking higher pay. You don't have to stay at one place.
"Meat makes really good money" 😂
Dude, cost of living in S.D. is nearly $50/hr. Full-time. You still can't live well (be able to afford a house) here...
I love this channel, but hate myself for trying to stick with a pointless, dead end job until it was far too late. It's good seeing others not making that same mistake.
Never too late
What’s the pay rate when learning the trade? Can you live off it? Isn’t it similar to McDonalds pay?
Got hired for a position in energy requiring 5yr experience with 1yr. Dont go union
Always the best way to learn from the old guys...
Be an annoying little prick until they finally give in. Also was drunk then hungover taking ACT. Still got a 26.
Do union shop / apprenticeships require high school diploma? Got a sharp kid in my circles who dropped from high school. He practically dreams in advanced math - so no lack of ability. Just can't deal with the school system.
Most organizations have no interest in a high school diploma. GED is fine for getting into technical school or apprenticeships.
Yep you have to have a ged or high school diploma.
The plumbers union my buddy , matter of fact, the number of union brothers I knew that were not even holding geds was so high that it can't be a requirement. If you care enough to keep that smart kid who is too smart to be held back by going to school from becoming another statistic write him a letter of recommendation. Hell he might be so certain that he's not worth investing in himself that he will never have the courage to go ask for a chance. Maybe you can be the advocate he needs and reach out and talk to some people on his behalf.
GED. Many job sites require a GED as a minimum. PS GED can be done easy all online. Most trades constantly want you to be in school. I just got done with my yearly 16 hour update just for national compliance and we had a company wide 2 hour meeting at lunch for safety.
Thats all well and good that he was able to get into a trade by being annoying but that doesn't work doe everyone, i tried to get a Job at a gas piping place and they were not willing to train me, same issue eith trying to become an electrician. Granted the gas piping place called me back 5 months later but by then i was already priced out of the area and had to move. They pull you around by the balls and then say no one wants to work anymore.
Nice vid and all, seemed to motivate some commenters, but why are we getting a 5 minute chest shot, no face or anything?
Ayooo I was just asking myself this exact question
I’ve spent 18 years as a chimney sweep and I just left the industry. Which union hall do I walk into to fix big things?
Yes
“You need to question your life choices” gee, with that attitude I wonder why people are flocking to the trades.
I’d way rather hear from Meat than some old timers who came up in an entirely different world
God i miss that hum in the background
most modern day machines are turing machines!
I’ve got George Thorogoods first album at home on vinyl… when they were just a three piece… great album… one bourbon one scotch and one beer🎶🎸
I got 100% on my IBEW entrance exam and they still declined me because I didn't have enough experience. I would not say it's easy to get in.
I understand where you’re coming from. It’s highly locational based. The locals around me have been hurting to get apprentices in while some of the ones on the west coast aren’t even taking people. Just depends on the work
@indianasquatchunters It was Washington state so I'm not too surprised. The whole West coast is honestly super horrible to live in for the working class right now. Fast food workers make great money, but even "good" jobs make the same so everyone is basically just poor.
I wanna work in energy so bad.
That pay is catching yall got programming
What’s millbillies?
It's much easier to just gripe than ask questions. This latest generations claim they are the smartest, yet don't even know how to use the worlds most powerful educational ever invented. Instead they use it to post selfies on various social media platforms. My kids come to me all the time with questions, if I don'r know I tell them, Let's search it on the internet. They are shocked nearly every time by the amount of info on the net 🙄.
Spoken like a TRUE MILLWRIGHT ! Showing up to the test completely wasted.
I was... paid 14.5 an hour to learn to be an electrican In Ohio I should never have taken that that job I have been unemployed for 7 months.... my local union won't hire for more than 17.5 dollars an hour....
Are you saying that pay is similar to McDonalds workers? Except they don’t have to break their backs? Is this what Chris is singing about?
i hear humming in background
This response is not for you but for Chris when he gets here, just decouple it, put it 180 degrees out of sync and recouple and it will stop :P
All union jobs are family and friends first. No big utility companies are hiring random people. Apprentice in millwrights don’t exist anymore. This guy is outta touch and making this up as he goes.
I dunno, the pay is still low, Im blue collar to the core for 41 years off working, but the money SUX, just saying❤
I'm not being disrespectful to you so please don't read this that way.
You sound like my mom. Same scenarios long history of work but never paid what she was worth. You have a job and don't need one right. So go apply at a few places doing what you know and then for pay ask an incredible amount. You might be surprised. Then again you might already make an incredible amount of money but live somewhere that just sucks every last penny away like so many of us do these days.
Good advice except unions suck