Ford Ranger Gets A Cobra Independent Rear Suspension - Trucks! S12, E14
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- čas přidán 4. 05. 2020
- We're putting a Supercharged Cobra Engine in our Ranger based pickup and installing a Cobra IRS setup.
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I like how they weigh the new IRS before cutting off pieces, adding pieces and replacing pieces with lighter ones.
It's a good starting point, but it would be interesting if they unbolted the complete IRS (since they designed the mounts to allow that) and weighed the final result.
Still can't believe you didn't media blast the frame and paint it.
i 100% agree but i think the point of Not doing it is for the casual viewer to see what parts are new / modified and what was stock when the project began.
Welding in short sleeves? That's a bold move, Cotton.
The narrator sounds like Alex Jones if he would’ve inhaled helium
This takes me back...Around 2010 (if memory serves) on Spike TV's Power Block. Was a nice solid performing truck from memory. :-)
Nice the way you mounted the Mustang IRS to the frame!👍
I had hit the pause button and check what I was watching around 8:30. Hand tools in one these videos? Wow they had to blow the dust of off them.
It would be nice if PowerNation went back to separating the “projects” again instead of having to search through a season to find episodes that the projects are in, or better yet, separate the “shows” in the season
I have a solid mounted 7.5” diff and all delrin bushings in my track car, the gear noise from the diff comes right through the car. The delrin bushings on the suspension are great though.
outstanding!!!
That rear wing is in beautiful free stream. It must do wonders.
That sharkhide is good stuff I use use that on my boat trailer
Guys, you missed a couple steps. A HUGE advantage of IRS vs solid axle is sprung weight. The weight of the axle has to rebound from bumps along with the wheels and tires, which the IRS avoids because the weight of the differential is suspended from the body having no affect on sprung weight. Also, threaded sway bar end links are only used to adjust “preload” for circle track. Anyone on a road course or autocross would use them to remove preload and make the sway bar neutral at ride height.
Man this makes the classic S10 V8 swap look too easy.
You could easily just do a classic SBF, and 8.8 swap alot easier than this. But this is still cool.
@@Kenzo-bp1zs Absolutely! Time to look up ranger vs s10 videos
@@NVzla sad thing is. The new 4 cylinder Ranger runs a 15.2 in the quarter with a stock tune. With a couple bolt ons, and a tune your looking at 13.8!!! Apparently the stock V6 Colorado is closer to 15.00 1/4 mile. I ran a 15.00 in a bone stock 86 Mustang... You could spend all this time and money on swapping an S10 with a 350, then get beat by a modern day minivan really.
Kenzo nobody cares about NA v6 or NA 4 cylinder 1/4 mile times.
@@youtubeisbroken241 I'm gonna have to agree. It's not that I'm a Chevy guy, but the Ford setups for alot of cars and trucks are damn near one offs and it's hard to find parts or aftermarket items from a company that deals in 1 to 1 1/2 year breaks. I prefer Chevy swaps because of the cost and nothing but the cost. Ford swaps are just too damn expensive and I actually like my family being able to eat.
This setup is really gonna be shock dependent. If you miss the mark on shocks, this thing is gonna skate rather than track straight. I'm interested with what they are going to do with shocks away bars.
If you guys used Nissan s chassis subframe it would of basically just bolted to the frame. It lines up near perfect
Seriously? Thats some damn good info! Do you know of someone who did this swap or a build thread etc? Id be Very interested in reading up on this
That means the z31 rear subframe might also fit
@@Realtime1501 you most definitely don't want to use a Z31 subframe! They were junk from the start, that's why we use the S chassis stuff
But you forgot to include the old leaf spring suspension parts
the rear diff and leaf springs you took out of the ranger are unsprung weight. because the irs components bolt directly to the frame, those components are sprung weight. that moves the center of gravity towards the rear of the truck.
the stock diff and springs gave the truck a high roll center in the rear. irs puts the roll center much lower by design.
Intersting. I know the late 90s cobra irs were plauged by wheel hop. Occasionally grenading the rear end gears due to shaking from the tires bouncing up and down on a hard launch. I personally witnessed this at Ennis, Tx. With a stock supercharged 98 cobra. Wheel hop and broke the gears. All in seconds.
@@Stephen-br6il the extra bracing they've done and the new bushings should help or eliminate wheel hop.
Why hell they not just put in 8.8 rear ended
Whether they're sprung or unsprung makes no difference to the location of the centre of gravity... but that change is an improvement in suspension.
This is craziness. 20 grand of work in a 2 Grand insured truck.
It must be nice to be able to do anything to a truck with unlimited money unlimited tools unlimited help and unlimited intertanment love it pretty cool ranger
Está quedando muy bien suban videos del proceso saludos 😁
Then we wonder why aliens don't talk to us .
This would be a fun truck to have.
You also lost unsprung weight which makes the tire contact patch easier to control
Funny I was thinking about doing this with my ranger hahahahah
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cool
it would be so dope if you guys put a 50s f100 body on it
And tube frame.
I used a bagged 4 link in my b2200 😂
The half shafts are worth media blasting and painting, but the frame . . .
They probably didn't pay for that... They would have if they did the frame.
Man, this is turning into one hell of a complex project. Hope it works as good as we think it will. Too bad Ford didn't make 'em this way.
This episode like 10 years old. it turns out pretty badass
This is gonna be a $250,000 Mazda
Not with the frame lacking attention.
Anyone notice the lack of coil springs and upper coil spring pockets?
No shock mounts either
Probably doing a coil over shock conversion
If you put the engine right behind the cab, that solves a hell of a lot of weight transfer issues.
Who the hell calls it a stick rear axle. never heard it call the stick rear axle in my life. it's just a solid rear axle
Manual gearbox = stick shift
Solid axle = stick axle
Pushrod engine = stick engine
Leaf springs = stick suspension
You fool person
We alway call it stick axle
@@JeremyPetho Toyota throttle pedal = stick throttle
I know a manual transmission is called a stick shift but every automotive publication in the world calls it a solid rear axle. motor trend, car and driver road and track etc. The car manufacturers themselves called a solid rear axle. My father worked for a few auto manufacturer. He used to build and race hot rods. I never once heard him or any of his friends refer to it as a stick rear axle.
"goes away"
4:30 Not going to mention sprung vs unsprung weight?
Fun and clever video... But, I must mention, as I have personally dropped in these IRS from Cobra's and Thunderbird's in to several other cars... You guys have / had full control to mount the cradle in any fashion you desired, but didn't mention if you added "Anti-Squat" angle into the mounting and welding... which would be about 2 to 3 degrees of what would look like caster.. plus, street driving will ride much better, on oddity's in the road ways... just saying... or maybe you guys did ,and just didn't mention it...??? either way, still fun brought back allot of memories.. more over, these IRS installed in my 85 Thunderbird turbo coupe...
You sound like someone I would have a lot of questions for if I were to get an old panther body and swap in an IRS from a Mustang.
Dru , what's a used cobra IRS cost ? Just curious?
What headers where on that race truck
Was it a B2300 or B2500? Ford switched from the old design 8 valve 2.5 half way through the 2001 model year and installed the 16 valve 2.3.
Anyone know if that truck is a short or long bed?
I picked an 03 Cobra IRS, wish I could find a xR7 Mercury Zephyr fox body with a sunroof. Maybe you’ve heard of the condition I have, “Crazy about a Mercury”
All that extra work.... Why didn't you just use a 2002 - 2005 Aviator? It already has everything you've done installed from the factory.
Mazda BTerminator
How much more difficult would a 4 wheel alignment be considering there wouldn't be specs on the machine
I'm hoping that rusty frame is getting some kind of treatment
@@bigboreracing356 it's not about being seen or not it's about protecting it from the road elements by how rusty the frame is I'm pretty sure it snows wherever the truck has been
Ford parts leave the factory pre-rusted. No extra charge ! Built Ford tough.
@@bigboreracing356 it sure has absorbed allot of the salt elements by how rusty it is
@@faschwankThat doesn't mean you can't correct that.
How can we get a full video of this truck. I have miss a lot of your project.
I want to get this on DISC myself.
Cool the use a MM suspension upgrade kit. Without it, the Mustang IRS is pretty crappy.
Los bujes esos blancos de q son de crillo n o algo paresido o teflon???
What's the intro song called
They better paint that frame
Good morning, what brand of work gloves do you use in this video. Thanks.
What year corba?
Lord all this work and you couldn’t spend 2 days wire brushing the frame and respraying it.
The downside of the IRS ??
Lower breakage thresh hold vs solid axle.
The Hell IT
Anybody know how to lift mustang IRS? I’m looking to make my ranger a pro-4 style truck with full independent suspension and I want to know if swapping a mustang rear or expedition rear is worth it
Pro-2 and Pro-4 ... not to mention trophy trucks use solid rear axles with a very low anti-squat ratio on the suspension setup.
On a ladder frame truck, stick with a solid axle.
IRS suspensions from production vehicles lack the suspension travel and suspension geometry for the levels of performance you're looking for. If you want to go IRS, get a 9" IRS center chunk and fabricate the suspension as needed for your application, wheelbase and akerman angle. There is A LOT more to making a offroad worthy IRS suspension then just bolting stuff on.
You try lift you truck an put irs on it? YOU FOOL PERSON
Dampener? I think he meant damper. 6:13
Those stock 98 cobra irs rear ends are terrible at drag racing. The suffer from wheel hop and sometimes grenade the rear gears. However they work great modified in autocross.
It doesnt take alot of bracing to kill all wheelhop and bulletproof them.
no 96-98 mustang came with IRS, only the 99-04 cobras came with them. The one they have is the 03-04 terminator IRS that only suffers from wheel hop. They have the much stronger 31 spline LSD, the only thing they needed to correct wheel hop was the subframe/control arm bushings.
This ain't a knuckle dragger,it was built for taking high speed turns
You should also use a face shield when grinding. Not just safety glasses.
This is an older video, he did receive an injury later in the shows run and started wearing a shield
Tuned in. I hope I win the 2019 Dodge Challenger RT
You will. I'm calling it.
@@sbfguy7793 man I surely appreciate that. Man it would be awesome. I do so much for others and it will just feel great to see God things really do happen for God people but even if I dont win I hope soneone wins who is good person and truly need it like myself and others like u as well. I appreciate that positive comment and if i do win I'm definitely going to come back and remember this comment from you. Appreciate that support and positivity truly.
Who pays for this work to be done?
The show's sponsors.
Cherry bomb mufflers
I pay
@@realrickharrison3103 I don't remember seeing any pawn shop commercials, lol
This would have been the perfect opportunity to media blast and powder coat that frame. Get rid of that rust.
Was about to comment that...beat me too it!
they probably will once they know everything that they modified on the truck is gonna fit as it should, then they will take it all apart and have the frame blasted and either painted or powdercoated
@@everettgrover9459 They never did... Lol.
Mazda 2500 he says ...lol
Hard luck it’s a Mazda B2500. It’s pretty much just a 4 cyl Ford Ranger with Mazda badges
What happened to all the vehicles when they were finished?
They take them back apart and use the parts on different builds. Hahahaha
Or sell them
Just adding my 2 cents. When GM or Ford do a prototype. Like the ZR1 powered camaro. They spend all that money and labor. Test it, then the entire car is crushed. Very few escape that fate.
A few of them would get pancaked in the Crusher
Stacy David showed some that he gave away, they pretty much get trashed.
Upper sub frame mounts brackets they welded are way to skinny/ Thin you can do better than that
Let see you do better mr keyboard customs
Lots of work, but well worth it,,, is it for sale??? Bad ass truck!!
I'm pretty sure it was crushed a few years ago.🤔
@@allanb3222 Why do you say that?
@@michaelcarson8375 That what they said on one of their episodes. They can't sell them to the public.
@@allanb3222That's probably because it's not street legal or can pass emissions in most states. They probably don't want to get sued if someone were to get into an accident with it.
@@michaelcarson8375 exactly why they crush them
Should have weight the subframe too
I like how they say "we picked up ____________" I seriously doubt these shows buy to much of anything. Stuff I bet is donated or outright given to them for a spot or highlight in the show. Heck they may even charge to be used on the show.
Brandon Clayton from what I’ve heard, most of the time sponsorships are only a large discount, stuff usually isn’t free with how specialized some performance parts are
Wanna fix a 11inch lifted Chevy Silverado 03??? Hmu
Tod Whitby this series is from like 2010 bud
10 years to late lol..
Please tell me your not going to spend all this time and money and not clean up the frame lol
Well this is a old, old video.
Or just buy a ford falcon xr8 ute,, or better, an XR6 turbo ute.
phillip hughes great idea... oh wait, the us didn’t get them. Never mind....
Why not put that rare suspension in a Mustang? Seems like a waste in a pickup.
Handling, Weight trimming, Handcrafted parts. This is very european.
🤦♂️ who let the dummy have a CZcams account.
@@soppingwetburgers6493 Most likely the same dummy that named your account with that stupid name. Oh well. Don't you have burgers to eat or something, kid?!
why are you screaming at me?
lol Ryan is always shouting
But.... Why?
Better handling and better performance on a racetrack.
You guys literally did the same thing 6 years ago
This is the video from 6 years ago.
This is the same video from 6 years ago.
Should of just used a Ranger
They probably got the Mazda for free..
Well, I knew Ford like to make some cheap crap, but... 3:12 that axle is going to snap!
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These shows would be better without the montages. The music gets old fast.
But, why? IRS sucks.
Not if you want a comfortable ride.
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But.... the ranger is a piece of junk. So you have a piece of junk with lots of money spent into it.
Spoiler alert, they spent no money.
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