Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania Pitch Meeting
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It’s already been eight years since Paul Rudd joined the MCU as Ant-Man, and this third movie in the series sees him kicking off Phase 5. So with Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, Marvel really had to start this new phase off with a bang. While some may argue that they didn’t succeed in that, one thing is for sure: they kicked it off with some naked MODOK butt.
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania definitely raises some questions. Like why did Janet keep such a big secret from everyone for SO LONG into the movie? What’s going on with MODOK’s face? If Kang is the big bad of the next two phases, why did we just watch him get beat up by some bugs? Did anything really change after this movie?
To answer all these questions, check out the pitch meeting that led to Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania.
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Quantumania is definitely one of those movies where it makes you excited for a pitch meeting.
It’s barely an inconvenience
It’s super easy, barely an inconvenience
It's another low effort reply
The worse the movie the better the pitch meeting.
@@MyBiPolarBearMax the movie was pretty good
Ant-Man: “I don’t have to win. As long as we both lose.”
*proceeds to unequivocally win*
Did he though?
It could definitely be clearer though I think he ends up in another timeline, everything feels off during that whole scene.
Beauty = truth
Yeah, fucking bullshit finale. It’s like nothing happened.
I don't have to win. He won anyway. Whats the problem
Well, he probably thought he was gonna die until Hope showed back up lol.
When the portal opens back up and they just go home, that was honestly so weird. All the emotion of Scott staying behind to make sure Kang can't escape, and then Hope going in after him, just feels suddenly silly. And Cassie had no way of knowing that they beat Kang, so I guess she just decided saving her dad was worth risking Quantum Hitler. Not that that's out of character for her, but you could just write it so that they're stuck down there and it fixes all of it.
Maybe she saw them on the scanner?
They coulda just checked his body
The last film did technically end with Scott stuck down there so I think they didn’t want to do basically the same thing
@@timechanger6679 yeah i thinks is mostly that, the director say it on an interview
Loved the “Quantum Hitler” XD
The truest line this pitch meeting has:
"That's a weird feature for a ship to have."
Even weirder for the ship even being there. You don't exile a multiversal menace with a "sabotaged" ship. You exile him without a ship, you morons!
Yea it literally makes no sense.....who the hell wrote this movie and what were they smoking
Lazy writing is TIGHT!
The frustration of Janet not telling the truth even halfway through the movie was beyond unimaginable for me!
You appear to have not met 1 in 7 humans
Jesus that was so annoying. There’s danger everywhere, but I’m not gonna tell you what it is..
The Antman movies are the stupidest movies in the MCU. Shrunken items retain their mass (meaning they weigh the same) except when they don't, toy trains are treated like they have the same propotional mass as real trains (any hobbiest can tell you they don't, except in Super 8, where the real train has the same proportional mass as a model train), time dilation exists except when it doesn't, a microscopic world exists when it didn't before. There's the rule of cool, and then there's dropping an open switchblade on your foot because you're wearing sunglasses at night.
That said, the first Antman is still pretty fun, especially those scenes where his sidekick narrates how he got the info for the heist and such.
Beyond unimaginable? Wow wow wow. Wow.
P.s. you must be new to marvel if stupid plot contrivances are ‘unimaginable’ 🤣
@@CorePathway I’ve been watching marvel since 10 years but honestly I haven’t kept the track since post endgame and loki and now I watch this!! So its safe to say it was quite unimaginable for me that this is soo mediocre.
I love that "Cassie tells MODOK "Don't be a dick" and that works immediately" isn't even hyperbole, it actually was that super easy, barely an inconvenience
She instantly became a genius super scientist out of nowhere so of course people listen to her.
Dick's sometimes just need a bit of honesty and kindness - being a human IS hard.
@@4879danielwell duh, she’s a female in the new M She U
If only that worked in real life…I wouldn’t be such a D…
Woke garbage.
The know-it-all insufferable teenage girl that invents MIT-level machines in her free time, teaches life lessons to her loser of a father, and never fails at anything.
Brat power.
🤮🤮🤮🤮
The way the boss processed Darren Cross’ introduction was identical to mine.
“Wait, who is that?”
“Oh, he’s the generic bad guy from the first movie.”
“He’s from the first movie!”
Yeah. Well, they had to flashback that part in young Cassie's room, so the viewers, who already blanked such a forgettable character, got it. And we all needed that, actually.
That's Tight 😊
Remember that time when all Kang wanted to do was fix his quantum drive and leave the quantum realm… and then the whole crew left the quantum realm through a portal with Kang’s ship intact and the quantum drive fully operational (powering the portal)… and then for some reason instead of just letting Antman leave through the portal, taking his ship and getting out of the quantum realm, Kang stopped Antman from leaving through the portal and fought him instead?
Classic Kang. Super villains forgetting they can get everything they ever wanted is TIGHT!
Hahaha, had missed that one. Good observation, literally rolling in laughter right now. What a dumb villain😂😂😂
janet says that I could make it work just this once (But Kang doesn't know that I guess). Your point still holds but that way kang would have been trapped in the Quantum Realm if janet is to be believed.
@@Saif_-_-_Ali they thought Kang was dead until he stopped them from leaving. If Kang just let them walk through the portal, he would have had the quantum drive active and powered up sitting about 20 feet from his ship and he could have gone wherever he wanted. It actually didn’t serve him in any way to stop them from leaving! They had just whooped his ass and they were leaving the quantum realm with the drive fully operational sitting on the other side of the portal unguarded. Even if what I think you are saying was true… that Janet said it only had 1 more cycle… Kang wouldn’t have known that. he was still fighting giant ants when she said that. He would have just seen his drive operational and the enemies leaving through the portal. So why would he stop them from leaving? Even if he somehow knew that the drive only had 1 final operation left… He could have followed them straight through the portal and come out of the quantum realm to earth right? The whole thing was a mess.
@@savingradio Yeah you are right. Kang is just another stupid villain.
No wonder this movie wasn't able to grab the big bucks.
How did that dumbass become lord of all timelines? Loki just keeps making less and less sense.
The "You led them straight to us" line had me and my friends dead cause we all thought the same thing. "Didn't they bring them there???" 😂😂
That is nearly as bad as the Vader line in Obi Wan "Have you come here to kill me?"...like dude you showed up second!
That’s what I was thinking lol!
Makes you wonder if they even employ continuity supervisors in these films.
Bad writers be writing badly...
They didn't know they knew Janet and would be tracked until after they SAVED some strangers from a monster. What's hard to understand about being upset about that? Someone accidentally tracks dog crap into your place you're still going to be upset about it even if you know it's not technically their fault.
That helmet reveal by Ryan was sick!!
Oh wow wow wow! Wow!
Tight, some might say.
Being Sick is TIGHT!!
TIGHT! 😊
@@LuisSierra42 No, it's not.
I was frustrated that Janet went "We can't talk right now" and then immediately began talking about how the quantum realm is different than they ever imagined as they meandered through it at a snail's pace.
STOP!!! That's SO REAL😭😭
Quantumania feels entirely like a first, unedited, draft of a good movie to me
the dialogue was total crap and definately felt like a first draft. I stand by the best and only good line in the entire film was “lotta ants”
Moreover, of a Fantastic 4 movie, not an Ant-Man one.
@@thekiwininjasmusic4928 dialogue and the plot was cringe. Felt like a teen wrote the script
Hey production can’t start until they have a turned in draft! They have release deadlines to hit 😂
@@spokoman23 right!!!! Like maybe one adult wrote it in an afternoon and just turned it in by 5......
Ryan George removing a helmet is one of the top 5 most incredible experiences ever!
I was shooketh 😩
Definitely beats watching the actual film they're talking about.
Five 🪖 out of 5 !
The size of the helmet vs his head, I almost fell over 😂
Oh most incredible experiences are tight!!!!
The moment I walked out of the theater my first thought was, "boy the Ant Man 3 pitch meeting is going to be a masterpiece", and boy am I not disappointed XD
Watching the pitch meeting instand the movie is TIGHT
@@yaqinmalul6467 wow wow wow wow wow wow wow
@@yaqinmalul6467 And super easy barely inconvenience
I don't even bother watching this new Marvel stuff, I'm only looking forward to these pitch meetings...
@@hafizihilmibinabdulhalim1004 oh really
I especially liked the part where the whole motivation was for them to go save Cassie and then they bring their inexperienced daughter barely capable of fighting henchman on her own right back with them for the showdown against Kang who just finished lasering people out of existence, good thing they knew she had plot armor.
How did I not notice that. Swear I'm losing my critic touch
What are you even talking about? The entire movie was about how Cassie didn't want to look the other way. She just incited a rebellion and helped Scott destroy the city's defenses. She may be inexperienced, but she isn't powerless. If they didn't stop Kang right there they would have had no way of escaping him either. It was an all or nothing fight.
@@yoursonisold8743 She's pretty powerless or did you miss the part where I specifically referred to her losing against nameless henchman as she literally did and had no experience outside of simply having the suit? So then against the most powerful enemy which if you watched the video, he mentions this too, was just previously beaming people out of existence, she goes into the giant form becoming the easiest target at close range and conveniently gets to help this time.. The movie can be one cop out after another so why are you defending it on a pitch meeting video where everyone agrees?
@@ARottenMuffin Did you miss the part where she beat a bunch of guards on her own to free the rebel leader, how she beat Modok in her giant form or how she helped incite the rebellion? She is not experienced, but she is not useless. Just because she doesn't stand a chance on her own also doesn't mean she can't still try. A hero is someone who fights the bad guy even if they don't have much of a chance.
Also "gets conveniently help this time"? This is the point of a team fight. The team works together and has each other's backs. You probably didn't complain when Hawkeye or Black Widow fought far superior alien armies.
I repeat: it was an all or nothing fight. If Scott and Hope had fought Kang and lost then Cassie would have been slaughtered like the rest of the rebels. Fighting is better than running.
Also it is pathetic to appeal to some kind of majority here. People come here to see Ryan riff on movies. They are already predisposed to shitting on it. That doesn't make the objectively right. If you see how many people in these comments didn't even get basic plot points that were explicitely explained you understand that most of them didn't pay attention and just want to have fun making fun off a movie. You don't have to like it. You have to actually have a point when you criticize it though.
@@yoursonisold8743 She's incapable until they make her a Mary Sue if you even know what that is, she does literally all of the things you mention as it's forced into the script and a detriment to the plot. You gloss over the conclusion that I referenced with her going giant form against instant death lasers, how it's the most idiotic thing possible but it only works because they set it up that way. Blackwidow and Hawkeye also tend to have plot armor as they have no actual powers but at least they're capable experienced heroes and not thrown into fighting the next arch villain of the new mcu phase instantly. If you want to defend the feel good popcorn flick go ahead, none of this is worth my time.
My favorite part is when Jennet goes like:
"THERE'SNOTIMETOEXPLAINWEHAVETOSAVEOURFAMILY!!"
Cuts to a 45min hike in the open contemplating the beauty of the quantum realm...
this stupid trope "I have no time to explain" has to die, surely there is time to simply say "there's a dangerous man with the power to travel through time and space trapped down there, I'll tell you more about him later"
@@vietanhta Writers trying to write plots that arent summarized in one sentence + "and then good guys win" (ACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE)
On the drive home from the theatre I was thinking "why the hell didn't Janet tell them about anything even halfway through the movie; and instantly Ryan's voice popped in my head "So the movie can happen!" Immediately came onto youtube when I got home to look for this. Was not disappointed.
Because Kang wasn’t with her before that point in the timeline. Did you not watch Loki?
@@linkfultz "People assume that time is a strict progression from cause to effect, but actually from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it’s more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey stuff."
The fact that you are talking about time travel and still frame it as a timeline, shows why the world-building in Loki makes no sense. I recommend watching Interstellar as it does a fantastic job showing what time actually is. Or steins;gate, as it does the exceptionally well with the world line concept Loki tries to use. Or even Agents of Shield, as they pull a lot of shenanigans but people can actually fallow the writers logic.
@@viperstriker4728 you’re literally proving my point. Lmao
@@linkfultz what? That is just so wrong. Thoughout this movie she kept saying "him" refering to kang. She knew about him the entire time it was the first she mentioned and just decide not to. Even when they were walking for probably hours, she just didnt.
Also when sylie broke the time line. It made everything in the past, present and future branch off making it possible for him to be exiled.
The ending of loki was making anything and everything possible, so he was with her.
Also i think technically when "he who remains" kang dies. He dying at every single point in time but not dying multiple times. Time is weird and confusing but it is possible he was there.
"That is threatening and not hilarious in any way..."
How Ryan managed to be funny AND hit the nail on the head is exactly why this channel is so loved.
“Hit the nail on the head…”. You DO realize he just collects the general sentiment from the internet and recaps them in a comedy skit right? RIGHT? Hard to miss the nail when you’re literally just reciting whatever 51%+ of the internet is saying.
That because it was super easy,…..barely an inconvenience
@@Devillionaire "General sentiment..." from the Internet is that this bucket of bilge is the BEST MARVEL MOVIE EVER SINCE THE LAST ONE so Ryan's bucking the trend here, as per usual.
@@Devillionaire Hey, shut up!
@@Ronno4691 dude he makes jokes about every movie. He's not a hardcore Film critic. The jokes just make you FEEL smart when they're about something you don't like. There is no objective truth here for you to pronounce.
"So the movie can happen" is such an underrated line, it must be a real excuse i the actual pitch meetings
I like how that argument is 100% of the time convincing for the executive.
Hank spent his whole life trying to go to quantum realm, but Cassie in just 5 yrs in her basement discovered to do it without a sweat. She even magically know how to open one in the last scene
Yeah BC in the MCU little girls are stronger, faster and 100 times more intellectually capable than all the men that existed in all the previous MCU films.
@Riktor seen a post saying "M She U" 😂😂😂
@@riktorGaming You're ignoring the fact that she had the prior research to work with
She didn't pioneer anything, the groundwork had already been laid and she just figured out how to make it work with the information she had at her disposal
Also, technology Hank didn't have when he was trying to figure it out initially
@@notquitepeterpan6397 Don't try to use logic to explain Marvel plots as they clearly stopped using that a long time ago to make their movies.
@@riktorGaming Okay, except they literally stated that in the movie
If you want to stick your head in the sand and see only what you want so you feel justified about your opinion, that's fine
Quantumania's script feels like a first draft they forgot to rewrite. Thanks for the Pitch Meeting.
That's what most shows and movies seem like from the last 5-10 years: first drafts.
That was exactly what I said about Thor: Love and Thunder. With just a few little tweaks it would be astronomically better to the point where the plot no longer feels made up on the spot.
Or the 10th draft by the 10th writer
@@beerosaurusrex How else are you supposed to crank out 50 new hours of shows and TV in the span of 2 years? You want the review process getting in the way of all that box office and D+ subscription money?
@@grandsonofvader just a few? no no no no no
“I mean it has consequences, The guy with the yellow beam thing for a head died.” Had me cracking up lol.
Ohhhhh, BEEEEAAAAMMM! I thought he said "yellow bean" thing on his head. Either way it's funny.
@@pitchmeeting3..- Steve
Wow ...wow...wow .. wow
who else just watches the pitch meeting instead of watching the actual movie
Producer guy: *Asks a logical question:*
Writer guy: "Hey shut up, so..."
Love that line every time! Happens a lot with movies these days.
As soon as the rebel leader said, "You lead them right to us!" I died a little inside
My son and I both looked at each other at that moment and went "wait a minute".
@@codysides7683 I wonder if a lot of these genre movies and TV shows are being written or partially written by AI.
@@troubadour723 chatgpt is one of the top writers of the MCU phase 5 no joke
Me too. That’s when I knew what I was watching.
@@simonsanchezkumrich8489 That should tell you something about Hollywood's estimation of content consumers.
The immediate cut-back to him having a helmet just to take it off is classic comedy.
I was thinking about that too. But I think he has to put on the helmet every time before shrinking or expanding.
It was still probably the best movie I've ever seen in my life
"Do it again, DO IT AGAIN"!!
@@buffnipz 😂😂😂😂
“Oh yeah Hope was in this! I forgot about her.”
“Me too sir!”
I think the writers actually did! I forgot it was called Ant Man AND the Wasp.
“Quantum infidelity is tight!” Had me rolling 😂😂
I’m surprised Ryan didn’t mention how the Ants just went somewhere and became super smart and powerful and then just came right back in at the perfect time and saved the day. I honestly thought - during the movie - how I couldn’t wait for Ryan to point that out
Then the ants did a backflip snapped the bad guy’s neck and saved the day
Well, they established at the beginning of the movie that they were very intelligent just before they got sucked into the Quantum realm.
Michael Douglas said some stuff about it.
@@deucepickle2091 yeah yeah yeah, it's still a giant Deux Ex Machina cop-out ending. If they had mentioned all that about the ants somewhere earlier, it would be like "oh yes, ok" but the way it was done is completely unearned and totally out of left-field
Or how his daughter is somehow a genius inventor
@@RobinDale50 ... So when Hank Pym mentioned it in the first 10 minutes of the movie, that's not good enough?
Kinda sad, the pitch meeting didn't addresed the fact that Kang could have won just by letting Scott go through the portal instead of attacking him. They literally left him there with the orb thing that he wanted the whole movie. Perfect moment for woopsie joke.
I realized this on my second watch, I was like wait why couldn't Kang just let them leave then he still has this orb and he could rebuild his civilization and ascend again very easily. My GF said that it's bcuz Kang's ego was hurt that he was being defeated so he tried to kill Scott, which is literally the ONLY explanation that could possibly make sense since it is very stupid that Kang fought Scott one last time for no reason. It was already very stupid that Kang was even still alive after being absolutely mauled by the ants that were hyper advanced, like did they just let him go off screen wtf?
Off screen technology is tight
@@victortachiquin4965 you can’t be serious mate… you watched it twice… pls stop giving your money for half-assed projects…. Marvel needs to realize they’re putting out straight garbage, and the only way for that to happen is for us to tell them via our wallets…
@@Dangeff Very, very good point. I haven't watched a Marvel movie in quite a while. Endgame, maybe? Well...I watched Hawkeye and Wandavision, but...heheh....didn't pay for those.
@@williamedwards4151 A Pirate's life for me
The "I've been doing pilates" line killed me, pure gold
Gotta love a movie where one of the main characters spends half the movie saying "no time to explain " 😂
The helmets coming off and on in the middle of a battle when Modok first came for the Langs was the most immersion breaking thing to me. I just wanted someone to catch a bullet like in Saving Private Ryan.
Actors do that so they have face screen time. You can't tell who is who unless theor face inls completely showing. It's not practical in battle though.😊
Maybe they should just consider wearing transparent helmets instead, or make the facepiece become transparent.
@@LXW-Arts and movie viewers are idiots who obviously cant distinguish different color coded costumes for 5 minutes.. even kids can do this
@@omarel-begawy7397 Messes with the iconic costume. Really, they should just keep the helmets on most of the time and the audience will eventually learn.
@Stanic it's not like they're all color coded like the power rangers as well.
Somehow, I feel this, ‘Main Character Has Secret Information That They Will Only Reveal Midway Through The Movie Far Too Late For It To Help” trope is going to be a defining aspect of Phase 5.
I mean it’s basically how Spider Man NWH happened. Dr. Strange, for some reason, couldn’t overcome Peter interrupting his spell.
@@Crusader2012 That's just a stupid contrivance. What the OP mentioned is both a stupid contrivance and an actual part of the narrative plot as the writers actively heading her deciding not to use her vocal chords for a few seconds for almost the whole movie.
This Pitch Meeting was so much better than the actual movie.
"Oh, okay, I just thought there'd be some consequences or something."
"I mean, it has consequences, sir. The guy with the yellow beam thing for a head died."
Best line from this pitch
Producer Guy: “Oh yeah, Wasp. I forgot she was in this.”
Screenwriter Guy: “Me too!”
Gold 😂
Evangeline Lilly belongs in the credits between the Best Boy and Dolly Grip, for real.
“That’s where small things are”
Finally someone who understands quantum mechanics!
Ant Man 3 is the kind of movie that made me wonder if it was written by an AI
I knew the pitch meeting wouldn't disappoint though 😁
I always add these to my watch later and immediately check them out after I finish the movie. It’s like a perfect dessert 😂
Same here! 👍
Real talk, I really appreciate how Robert Pattinson wore the Batman Cowl for most of the movie. Compared to how other movies keep removing helmets and masks.
And even he appeared without the cowl a few times.
On the other hand Karl Urban in Dredd didn't take it off once.
That is one of the first things I said to a buddy of mine. At least he didn't immediately take off the mask in front of Catwoman.
I agree with your point but It's weird that you use Pattinson as an example when he still has plenty of scenes without It.
Take Karl Urban in Dredd. He keeps It on the ENTIRE movie.
Well, you can't really remove a Batman cowl and not expect laughter. All the lines on your face will look pretty silly.
@@diefty94There’s definitely a higher ratio of Batman in The Batman movie.
The “hey shut up” is a fantastic addition to your repertoire 😂
I've noticed that too
but...
wasn't he using it for years?
@@grim_2000 he started saying it when he got his own ytb channel
Cracks me up everytime 😂
"I'm going to need you to get all the way off my back on that" evolved before our eyes. That's so tight.
I really, really wish that they had stayed in the quantum realm, at least for a while. It would have made it so emotional. Especially because they're all like, "we've got one chance to go back! But we're good now, you know?" It would have also made his line "I don't have to win, we both just have to lose" so much cooler.
I mean, imagine if it cut to Cassie and she finally opened a portal and it was a fully built empire again, except people had been listening to her parents for the past 10 years or something. Especially because the whole point is that time moves differently. That would be so cool.
Also because the quantum realm being a universe of its own, they could totally have spent the rest of their anting and wasping lives down there, helping fend off other threats. And Cassie could've become the new Antwoman on Earth. Win-win, happy-sad ending.
You wrote a better ending than Disney marvel would ever come up with in phase five. Think about that for a second.
@@newyorkgunnaz3642 thanks 😂
I have barely watched any MCU Films since Endgame but I'm always looking forward to the Pitch Meetings
As someone who didn't see the movie, I can confirm that the guy with a yellow beam thing for a head was the real hero.
Prequel series on Disney+ in 3..2..1..
We'll never forget you, Yellow Beam Thing Head Guy! 😢
I can vouch for Milosz here.
I've never met him (her?), or heard of her (him?), ever, but trust me, you can believe them (it?).
*yellow bean thing
@@globesurfer122 no it's definitely a beam head, like a big frickin laser
I've been frustrated by the lack of consequences in Marvel films for a while now, but this one just sent it into overload. I was content with the consequence of Scott and Hope being stuck in the quantum realm, but when they just randomly opened the portal again and they went home and everything was completely fine I just lost it.
They never should have gone down that road as a possibly A&W previously ended with Scott being stuck in the quantum realm. Was better they resolved it here instead of coming up with another miracle rat
That's why marvel crap is for children .
There was the theory scott would die , that would have given it more weight
What are you talking about?? That guy with the yellow beam thing for a head died for God's sake!
It's not even like much time had passed while they were in the quantum realm, or their friends (like Luis and Polkadot man) were struggling and needed Scot but he was nowhere to be found. No Way Home was good because Peter had to lose the battle (his life as Peter) to win the war.
@@HardCR0W RIP yellow head beam guy 🥲
1:09 my brain was nowhere near there. I almost spit out my drink it made me laugh so hard.
And right after "Hey Shut up"🤣
3:48 “All right I don’t feel like I know those characters and I’m not super emotionally invested”
“And this guy with a yellow beam thing for a head dies”
“Oh no! Guy with a yellow beam thing for a head!”
Had me cracking
It’s kind of sad when the most emotional moment in the whole movie for me was when a brand-new character who only had about 20 minutes of screen time, whose name is never given, and who doesn’t have a single spoken line dies
Same for me. The moment they gave Cylinder Head more than 10 seconds of screen time I knew that (a) he'd die and (b) that'd be the most emotional death in the movie.
But didn't he have lines? Wasn't he the one who kept saying "torture them"?
"He is from the first movie!"
The producer has most "genuine" surprise.
For real I expect him to die horribly bcs in antman 1 weve shown numerous failed shrinking results in gooey death
But they said he maybe not dead yet. The moment i saw modok I easily connects the dot
If only they showed a Flashback to explain it…
@@3takoyakis Only his head survived.
@@commandercaptain4664 his butts too yk
Hes just horribly disfigured
I like how he didn’t even know who Darren Cross was. Even the movie seemed to think no one else would either, because they were showing flashback scenes of him as he was revealing his identity so we would realise who he was
Hilarious that people think you have to watch all of these movies to understand everything, when even some shitty thing like the shitty identity of shitty M.O.D.O.K. holds your hand through understanding it.
I love when you can look at a weird thing in a movie and just kind of tell they added it in because test audiences weren't understanding what was happening
@@ArchibaldClumpy "shitty" your tick my guy?
My parents saw the first Ant Man movie multiple times, and still didn’t remember who he was lol.
@@ArchibaldClumpy I liked MODOK. He felt like he represented all people like me who are unpleasant to look at. That's something I never saw in a movie before and it was beautiful. I guess you never related to MODOK before in your life Arcihbad? I guess your so pretty huh.
How frustrating is it that they defeated Kang that easily 😭
Easily? He destroyed an entire army, beat Scott to a bloody pulp, and almost escaped. Plus, he was toying with them most of the movie. I wouldn’t say it was easy
@@deadpooldan9862yeah…. Are people getting dumber?😅
Could not agree more. What a dumb film, made for dumb people.
For what it's worth, Kang had technologies we can only dream of, his armor should hand made Iron Man's look like a tin can. His brain should have been off charts exceptional. He had conquered countless planets, entire planets, more capable than ours. HIs soldiers the best of the worst, each one with weaponry that would belittle Ant-Man's technology. Yet they couldn't hit the side of a barn, had conventional shit weapons at that, and were knocked out by the puff of a breeze. I LOVE super hero movies. This, though, was the worst. Good only for 6 year olds.
@@deadpooldan9862still a crap concept, and they want us to believe he is new thanos
@@HowToChangeName as crap a concept as Thanos getting his head chopped off by Thor while severely injured. It’s not a crap concept, it’s called using your brain
The part that got me was that Scott was literally about to sell out the entire multiverse to get his daughter back but then Kang just said "She'll be better off without you." But why? He could've just said, "She's safe at the base, give me the thing and we'll go get her." And wasn't his entire goal to get himself out? Why didn't he just put the core in the ship, physically leave, and go kill another Kang for his ship and free your armies with that. I thought time didn't matter to this guy?
I like that you mentioned the helmets removal thing, it seems like every movie since Infinity War has had all the characters possess a nano-particle type helmet that CGI's off their head when not needed?
Agreed. I'm probably the biggest Marvel apologist around, and I really enjoyed this movie, it was fun, but dude, the nanotech helmet removals are super annoying!
They're needed for the actors to get as much face time as possible. The more you see their face, the more you'll associate the actor with the character. That's the idea I think.
They remove their helmet for everything, even just to look at someone.
@@coranbaker6401 They need to remove helmets so it wouldn't be considered an animated movie. 80% of the scenes is basically floating faces on a green screen...
@@coranbaker6401 Yeah, but still, it's just out of control.
Great that Ryan pointed out that they were experimenting in the quantum realm at the end of Ant Man and The Wasp. That was a huge plot hole, in hindsight. It seems Ryan does more research than the writers did.
I mean, the biggest plot hole of all is having matter smaller than an atom in the first place. They casually remove their helmet in an environment that is smaller than oxygen. Enjoy your choking.
I think that assumes they actually care about continuity, it’s all Disney sludge at this point 😂
Out of all the problems, this isn't one. They went down to collect "quantum energy" for Ghost. They weren't going deep enough to actually pass into the Microverse. The quantum realm has different "layers" is as big as a universe, so them going down for a bit at a time in a far off area was deemed safe. What Janet had issue with was Cassie pinging the entirety of the quantum realm seemingly randomly, so she can map it. Thats a much larger problem than what they were doing at the end of the last film
@@sapdude44 I stand corrected.
to be fair, it doesn't say much that Ryan did more research than the writers did at this point. the absolute state of the MCU by now is something to behold.
Every time I think "Why did they do that dumb stuff in that movie?" my head automatically answers "So the movie can happen!" 😅
"Quantumanian Marvel's lowest grossing movie so far"
The Marvels "Hold my beer"
I'm more hyped about these pitch meetings than the actual movies nowadays 😂
I don’t even bother to watch the movies anymore, just watch the pitch meetings.
Shorter, funnier, cheaper, and super-easy, barely an inconvenience.
Maybe Disney-Marvel are secretly Pitch Meeting fans and try to produce the best material for it.
Lol the magic is gone with Marvel movies.
@@zoothoot3366 Same. As soon as Hollywood started telling what we wanted (or should be wanting) instead of actually giving us what we wanted, I was out.
“Oh yeah, Hope! I forgot she was in this…” KILLED me.
I seen comments like this alot but seriously I don't see why. She's in it plenty. Sure she's not as prominent as Janet was but still.. Fury is in Avengers more than the Avengers are except for the finale.
She WAS SUPPOSED TO BE NEXT "ANTMAN" NOT HIS DAUGHTER
The whole antman 2 was to sold this character, even Marvel what if. Then out of nowhere Marvel decided to making the trend, "your child/female younger ver will inherit your heroic title" start with shuri, hawkeye daughter, iron heart, and hulk son
You could see in her hairstyle the actress didnt care a damn about this movie. Its really messy. Starts from weirdass bobcut in antman 1 then heroine pony and then this
It's like they forgot they added "the Wasp" in the title up until the moment Ryan mentions when she stops Kang from going through the portal
She was there the whole time, you just didn't see her because you were averting your eyes from her haircut.
Wait hopes the yellow ant women right
0:37 I haven't laughed this hard in a hot minute lol you're the best at what you do Ryan!
Kang and Janet should have had a relationship, then, her "keeping it a secret" would have made perfect sense. The Bill Murray fling seemed like it was a forced-in second written option.
They did have a relationship it just was more interpersonal in its intimacy than physical. 2 Lost explorers/scientist save each other and then become cohabitants for a number of YEARS and you don't think that's a bigger realtionship than the flings she had with Freedom Fightn' "Stripes" Murray! Johnathan Majors Knocking Boots Because he Had "Needs" Also make sense Tho😏
Great vid. Wish he included how Kang pointlessly betrayed Antman which guaranteed him betraying Kang right back. Also, he kept Cassie as a prisoner for some reason (what was his ultimate goal of keeping her when he just wanted to leave the realm?) instead of just outright killing her.
Did you just suggest killing a female character? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
She’s a genius, mate. She develops alien technology in her spare time with things lying around the house, and is also an absolute beacon of morality.. this character is unkillable.
Yeah that was dumb. And dumb that he retained the deal in there last fight!! Kang says you could have walked away and gone home- and it’s like no dude you reneged your deal so he couldn’t hats??
Cuz she's one of the main characters.. 😂
kang did say that "she will be fine without (scott)" as in he was interested in her genius mind.
@@CM-pf1xc actually scott was trying to hold the orb thingie when kang asked about it. in a sense, scott broke the deal. had he give him the orb thingie, he could have walked away (without cassie)
Happy seal clap at 00:45 is just so delightful, like a toddler eating ice cream for the first time.
Ryan put more effort than Marvel did 💀
I'm old enough to remember when Pitch Meetings was a show on Screen Rant, and we pleebs begged for it to have its own channel. Now, life is good.
I’m old enough to remember that one time when Jenny Nicholson invented Pitch Meeting
My biggest problem with Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania is that it doesn’t have Luis or Kurt in the movie.
Or the original Cassie, and it needed her.
Don’t forget Dave
@@connorberry6377 Dave did it to himself.
@@roysmith770 Original Cassie is too young now; she's still only like 14.
Kurt's actor plays the goo guy.
4:16 - deeeeeefinitely thought he said
" *very* violent in sex "
Bro same 😂😂😂
“Kind of a weird feature for a ship to have” made me laugh VERY hard 🤣
So did any time pass while they were down there? You know, like how Scott explained in Endgame that he was stuck there for 5 years but for him it felt like 5 hours?
Dropping everything I’m doing to watch a pitch meeting is tight !
It's super easy, barely an inconvenience.
(and I _love_ that my predictive type suggested the last 3 words as soon as I put in the comma)
Wow, wow, wow,.......................................wow!
I hope you're not a new father then! :P
At this point I don't laugh much at these things anymore so much as I sit here in awe at the brilliance on display.
When Janet said “I didn’t tell you cuz I’m trying to protect you” I said to myself “Well they gonna need to know what the hell they’re up against if this guy is freakin hunting them”!
The whole thing with Janet not telling everyone else about Kang reminds me a lot of Resident Evil Village where Chris Redfield didn't tell Ethan that his wife was still alive the entire time pretty much just so the story could happen
"Why don't you take a closer look ?"
"oops" "Whoopsie"
Reminds me of episode 8 with purple hair lady. Repeating a new trope is tight!
or Sansa not telling Jon about the Knights of Arryn coming to help for the BotB
Spoken like someone who didn’t actually play RE Village huh.
4:48 it has KANGsequences!
Actually, they determined Scott and Cassie weren't spies because the glowing forehead guy read their minds. Also, while I kinda wish that Scott and Hope would've been stuck in the Quantum Realm for a while as a sacrifice, they DID establish the device that was able to locate people in the Quantum Realm. In fact, Cassie built it specifically because of what happened to Scott previously. Speaking of which, having Scott stuck in the Quantum Realm again only to potentially return later for important plot reasons has already been done, so I'm also kinda glad they DIDN'T go that route.
we found the person who liked it
I'm glad that you at least touched on the whole: "Wait, why are we rooting for the rebels? We don't actually know them at all!" aspect of the film. That stood out to me almost immediately as I was watching it, thinking that for all we know the rebels are "rebelling" against clean drinking water and the banning of slavery.
And that's not even touching on the monty-python esque idea of what Kang might have been improving within their actual society ("What have the Romans ever done for us?" "You mean aside from the roads, sanitation, etc"). I mean, for one thing, the rebels are living in some desert huts and Kang built this whole, vast, futuristic cityscape that probably has schools and fire departments and hospitals... Like, I'm not trying to defend despotism here or anything, but would it have hurt to at least found out what the two sides actually stood for? For all we know, Kang had a democratically elected parliament that did all the real governing and he was just in charge of expanding the empire or whatever... which, you know, not ideal but also might be better than just burning everything down and living in the desert...
Sorry for the rant, but that aspect of the film really bugged me!
When they said Hope comes though the portal to help Scott and say they forgot she was in the movie, I nearly spit out my water LOL, always love Pitch Meetings
Really did feel that way.
She's from the other movies!
@@ObsessiveGeek yeah, at least she was in it a little than not at all, then it’d be called Ant-Man: Quantumaina
@Colby Steffens Remember, Janet is also the Wasp so the title doesn't necessarily mean Hope
@@mediocremasterpiece5591 yeah I remeber
Ryan is a comedic genius. Even put a “quantum infidelity” pun in for the quantum physicists 😂
Glad we finally moved on from quantum entanglement to quantum infidelity. XD
I'm glad someone else picked up on this! ::physics bro fist::
@@divanshukumarmahajan4803 there is uncertainty around it at quantum levels.
Top tier joke 😂😂😂😘
"Quantum infidelity is tight!"
"It might be, sir"
I found Kang being very nervous when Antman got big to be hilarious. This film was like a messy cartoon version of endgame but without the story and action.
I noticed the helmet thing, too. And I actually had the thought "so the movie can happen!" when the absurdity of Janet not telling anyone about Kang played out......
That Helmet Joke completely nailed it. I am still laughing...in the multiverse! 😜
Hahahaha same bro.
I’m a huge fan of the “well..” “well..” exchanges. Usually the biggest laughs in the pitches when they are used
“Small things are tight!” Missed opportunity
I'm surprised they didn't mention how Kang is pretty much a sith lord. He uses the force and shoots lightning out of his hand.
This channel is single handedly letting me watch these movies without having to sit through them lol
Same here. Amazing content
mix it with two other channels. EWW and highboi
Never thought I'd see this comment on a marvel movie
@@MadawaDAWilson eww indeed i can't stand cinemasins
I like all the time and money I'm saving not watching these movies.
5 minutes of free satire wins every time!
3:11 Tought you would go for a " Quantum Entanglement is Tight! " joke right there lol
😅yeah
Also the first half hour was everyone saying "Quantum Realm" as much as possible.
"That is threatening and not hilarious in any way." LOL well put
The “Our word is our bond” part was really funny 😂
“Cassie’s gonna have to fight Modok and try to convince him to join their side”
Right as this was coming out of his mouth, I was HOPING it’d be the setup for the “super easy” joke 😂😂😂 And it paid off.
According to Scott in endgame shouldn’t however many hours they were in the quantum realm equate to years in the real world so I’m assuming they spent like 4 or 6 hours in the quantum realm that would mean 4 or 6 years passed in the real world
I love that the thumbnail is just the red emoji!
I never understood why the ants didn't just kill Kang. Did Hank just tell the ants to like 'go rough him up a little'?
😂😂😂. Nah nah, just send him a message lol
I mean, having your enemy painfully ripped apart by giant insects isn’t exactly heroic. So yeah I can imagine Hank giving the order to subdue rather than kill. Or we’re just supposed to assume that Kang was able to defeat/escape the ants offscreen, losing most of his tech in the process.
Maybe Kang did his Angry Explosion and then lost his weapons while wrestling with the few survivors. That's really the only thing that makes sense.
Those millions of ants suddenly disappear in the final fight lol
Because they couldn't. You forget how powerful Kang is
We need a free guy pitch meeting!!
yes
Omg yes pls
How hasn't that happened yet
Yes please
nah american psycho
"Quantum infidelity is tight." Holy shit is that brilliant.
"oh yeah I forgot Hope was in this," killed me 😂
that helmet removal by Ryan got me more excited for phase 5 than anything else could've
I'm not gonna lie. But the Guy with the Yellow Beam thing for a Head. I felt him. Hands down more interesting and compelling than 90% of the movie
Yeah, he was the best part of the movie
Fr
But is he Korg compelling?
@@commandercaptain4664 yes, korg was ruined in love and thunder
"Let's torture them", the yellow head guy had passion for it. respect.
The shit-eating grin on MODOK's face was nothing like in the comics, where he wore a definitely evil grin. And he was alien-looking.
My only disappointment in this pitch
Is when referencing Bill Murray “quantum infidelity” definitely should’ve been “quantum entanglements are tight” 🤷♂️
“They all get sucked down in the quantum realm”
“Oh, oh my god”
“No, like they go into it” 😂
Was surprised he didn't like it. Producer guy is quite the pervert.
@@miriamweller812 He likes money more... he was afraid of losing money
Gotta keep it PG-13 for maximum dollars
@@dammagrilla sucking dick isn’t necessary in a fucking Ant-Man movie. It’s not greedy or money hungry to not want that in your movie
@@AndrewDukes The fuck are you talking about... we're joking around over here
@@dammagrilla uhhhh yeah, obviously. Tf are you confused about?🤣🤣