Is Neuvillette Stronger then all the Archons? (Genshin Impact 4.2 Lore and Theories)
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huh i just realized i didnt include furina on this list. i am ashamed.
anyway wanna gauge neuvillettes strength vs that of the archons like venti, zhongli, shogun (ei) and nahida. poor dead focalors. Neuvillette has said he has enough strength to judge the gods but does he rally or is he a big fat liar? in other news still waiting for somone to leaks focalors outfit being playable. please man ill do anything
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:19 Neuvillette vs Heavenly Principles
2:53 Venti and Nahida
4:00 Raiden Shogun (Ei)
5:18 Zhongli
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I think if Neuvillete has absolute control over water he can probably blood bend most people in Teyvat
he straight up bend the primordial blood in fontainians and made them true humans in the archon quest
Also, Neuvillette said to himself that he's not going to judge Nahida because of how she actually actively helped her people after being released, also he was saddened to find out what she had to go through for 500 years being contained...he might judge the sages instead tho....
I believe it is said he has to judge her but still commends her.
"Though the day will come when I put her on trial, I must commend the God of Verdure on her sense of responsibility. Few things are without flaws in this world, but the devotion and benevolence she displays are a testament to her commitment to continued progress. I felt enormous regret when I learned of the mistreatment she has endured over the past five hundred years."
Applying judgement doesnt mean to automatically declare someone guilty, its to determine if someone is guilty of certain crimes and what is the penance that must fulfill depending of the situation.
Bro what the hell are you even talking about clearly you read it intuition than your senses
judgement isn't condemnation. It's an assessment and conclusion.
Bottomline, nahida will be judged.
Skirk said neuvillette could beat the Narwhal without using power from beyond
This proves neuvillette is the absolute peak of the hydro element itself
The archon rather rely on the elements as power
But the sovereigns OWN the elements to their finest
Thank you because some here thinks he is weak
Sorry but Zhongli isn't just Archon... X)
@@SamuraiSx19 he gets his back broke by ei, don't even compare him to neuvillette
Ei quite literally is the incarnation of lighting, she IS her element
she is mentioning the traveler
5:13 I personally believe that the raiden shogun would not use all her power in her own city on one person that she thinks is human and destroy the city
Well, even as bad as the criminal is, she still won't be willing if his house is damaged because of her crime. Moreover, Raiden Shogun definitely looked down on Kazuha and didn't use the same level of strength to cut Orobashi.
I think you're right, I doubt her attempting to strike down someone clearly weaker than her equates her striking down an invading god that I'm pretty sure killed one of her close friends, the tengu general I think? Either way, I'm pretty sure she's definitely not using her full strength.
Ahem, guys, Ei is the one who strikes Orobashi. Not the puppet. And the one clashing with Kazuha was the puppet. And yes, it makes sense she didn't go full swing right there.
@@caden1313didnt they say raiden shogun
@@SaulAguilar87258 well no one knows that Ei is the one slaying monster and enemies of Inazuma at that moment, right? Only certain ppl know that Ei is Makoto's kagemusha who was sent to resolve the invasion with General Sasayuri.
Nahida straight up tells us the plural of 'Gnosis' is 'Gnoses' in 3.2 archon quest
You mispelled Gnosisesisses.
@@ArchibaldVonSkipyou meant gnosussies.
Nahida is actually very strong as when we fought scaramouche in god form then she used the power of dreams on him and trapped him in a samsara cycle 168 times so the traveler could defeat him she could trap anyone in a samsara cycle as many times she want but as u said she lost a lot of her power so she would need an executer like the traveler to use all that knowledge and defeat the enemy that she wanted to defeat
But can dragons dream?
Yes ei did say she's stronger than it looks
well as His character story puts him
Now that he has obtained one part of seven of the authority over the mortal realm, and reforged the throne and title of a "Fully Fledged Dragon," *he is one strong enough to equal and rival "the human realm,"* and logic would dictate that he need not subscribe to this system known as "fate."
-Genshin Impact: Neuvillette Character Story 5
The "human realm" in this case more than likely refers to EVERYTHING minus Celestia and the Abyss, which would put Neuvillete's power ON PAR with the Seven Archons, the Eleven Fatui Harbingers and every other elemental being, Vision user and God in Teyvat put TOGETHER
It has always been implied dragon sovereigns are much more powerful than archons.
If we refer to gnosticsm which is the inspiration for genshin lore. The archons are below demiurge (the fraud ruler of the umiverse). The demiurge fears beings who dwells at the true origin of creations, these beings are draconic, in some version it is described as dragons. In abrahamic religion, the most powerful angels which is the seraphim are in some version described as dragons (the word seraphim itself means burning one)
dude the whole demiurge thing really makes me wonder if the swc won the war
My intuition tells me that dragon sovereign only loses due to trickery. I'm aware that in game lore (mostly enkanomiya) states differ than this, but who is to say that record is truest truth, it can still be lies or fake, sort of lies behind lies
Also, the true theme of gnosticsm is layer after layer of lies, and the journey to uncover the truest truth. Even the demiurge never aware that it is the true all creator, but consider itself as such, sort of it is being delusional
The true all creator in gnosticsm is not a being or individual being but the summation of all there is. It is often described as water of creation. This theme also pervalence in egyptian and sumerian myth. Guess who is the ultimate god in sumerian myth? Tiamat and apsu, both are dragon gods, even Anu their first progeny is described as anu the celestial dragon god (later he is crowned as the emperor of the gods that even the heroic god marduk bow) in some account
The dweller of the source of all there is in gnosticsm is also described as dragons. Actually the original meaning of the word dragon means guardian, a positive meaning
The key to everything in genshin is on anything related to dragon sovereign, anything else are lies
So that's why there are pupil-like (reptile) symbols in his droplets. Cause the many eyes of angels.
The point against Ei is fair, but is it not fair to assume she used less force against the traveler than Orobashi? Killing the traveler would be much easier in theory. Not to mention They were right in the middle of the city, there’s no way Raiden would have used a strike so strong there.
Yeah, it seems she didn’t want to kill the traveler. The same thing with Kazuha. Both Ei and the Puppet are Still strong
Well, even as bad as the criminal is, she still won't be willing if his house is damaged because of her crime. Moreover, Raiden Shogun definitely looked down on Kazuha and didn't use the same level of strength to cut Orobashi
@@ChristianDorettiidk why people never mention the fact she looked at the person blocking it and saw it was one her citizens and orettt much held her sword down with a single hand, she didn’t press any further at all and just kept it there yet people act like her arm was overpowered. If anything I bet she was just confused why her own people were so mad, I mean she said she was aware but how aware can you actually be when in another plane - she really must mean she has a general summary of what goes on
Im waiting for the Teyvat Interlude Chapter in Celestia just know hoyo cooking up some devious Celestians. The fatui are quickly approaching peak threat. A mechanical god was Mickey mouse activity but possibly returning all Soverigns to their peak strength has got to atleast get a look from Celestia.
Aren't sovereigns the elements itself? Like the gnosis are a portion of their power that's why the archon who wield them have authority over that element, neuvillete might be young compared to the other archon but what the hell are they gonna do against the personification of hydro itself.
Sovereigns aren't the elements but have full authority over it, though yeah what are the archons gonna do when all of tevyat water even their own blood is against them lol
important to note we dont know the connection between gnoses and authority. right now we only know the thrones hold the authority but dont know how gnoses fit in the mix
@@CamiliaMcShoe Sovereigns are elemental beings, which means they are pure elements.
Also, you might have misunderstood what Neuvillette did to Fontainians. He didn't manipulate their blood, but Primordial Seawater that was in that blood.
@@kostuchan4418 I mean if the sovereigns have full control of an element (hydro) and the human body have 70% water in them, my point still stand, though I guess archons doesn't have normal blood but still
@@CamiliaMcShoe
"The war was brutal, and brought great suffering to the people."
Well, they don't really have full control of elements. They only control elemental energy just like Vision bearers. Water without elemental energy can't be controlled, that includes water inside living beings.
If Childe keeps that training arc going he might get his get back on Neuvillette
yes childe will be stronger than fake hydro dargon boy xD
Maybe in a couple more hundreds of years
@@MitternachtssternXIIIfake hydro boy? What
Childe needs to climb his fatui ranks first. Neuvillette is stronger than all of archons and his powers are equal or less that of Celestia. Childe isn't even close.
Childe is child infront of neuvillette
I have a theory.... every one dogs on Rex Lapiz as being a weak 5 star and weak archon play wise I've noticed.... but you know what he does have? A unbeatable shield that protects you and your allies... the best way to scale this power is by exchanging strength for health or life maybe 🤷♂️ 😉. So he stepped down, to avoid or reduce erosion. Buying him time and the strength to defend any one he chooses. He traded God hood for life force that he uses to still protect. Protect and not kill..... maybe idk but sounds good imo 🤷♂️
If you were a god and you used a devastating technique,you're not going to give it your all when the receiving end behind that technique is also the town that you look over,so it isn't really inconsistent writing as much as it is either a tiny neat detail or just fan service to Kazuha. Venti is definitely the weakest and I believe that's on purpose,Zhongli losing as much power as he did basically means he isn't beating Neuvillette in a fight,same goes for Ei/Raiden Shogun if that possibility comes true especially since he has authority over hydro now. He will judge Nahida but he acknowledges her efforts and feels regret for what she had to endure...Oh and also Nahida literally tells us 'Gnoses' is the plural of 'Gnosis' so no,there are no added 'S',just thought I'd throw that in for a funny
ive been told lol
Block the sword isn’t that big if u understand physics, that sword didn’t reach its maximum velocity meaning stopping a swing is a lot easier at the release than the ending of the swing
The giggle you do when you joke about stuff it funny af
It's Gnosis in singular, Gnoses in plural. Same case as Thesis and Theses, so you just pronounce it with longer i:
It is important to note that despite being absentee, the people of mondstadt still worship him. So he still has their faith.
Also, it is also important to note that because of the sovereigns' battle with the primordial one, the latter LOST their authority over the world's order. Hence they resorted to use the body of the 3rd descender and steal the authorities from the sovereigns. You could say that the primordial one ultimately won but they didn't wipe the floor with the sovereigns.
"It is important to note that despite being absentee, the people of mondstadt still worship him. So he still has their faith."
From what info we gathered it seems faith is converted to power when an Archon "seats on the throne" (not literally). Thus, while Barbatos is worshipped, the faith doesn't become power.
"You could say that the primordial one ultimately won but they didn't wipe the floor with the sovereigns."
They did wipe the floor with Sovereigns the first time. It was forbidden knowledge that made a difference the second time.
What is pretty intresting is that Ei was not even Archon when she killed Orobashi, she should not have had the "electro authority" or "Gnosis", just her own power.
you might be able to say nahida is weak from lack of belief from her people and lack of a gnosis, but you can't ignore the fact that the dendro archon's consciousness is linked to irmensul. That means nahida has the power to alter reality, as demonstrated in the sumeru archon quest where she erased rukedevata from existence entirely.
Speaking of the erasure of rukedevata, wouldn't this mean the people's belief were placed in kusanali instead? or did they fully rely on the akasha.
Why do people think Kazuha blocked a fully powered attack from Raiden?
Fr, that would be silly cause she would literally destroy her whole city
@@LaSignorasfav right not a crack on the floor nothing! And people think he blocked a island splitting attack.
@@DDemiGodd Even her second story quest confirms that it could not be fully powered attack, since that would make Makoto's consciousness appear.
@@kostuchan4418I never really understood the second story quest was it just makoto in the sword can you elaborate in what you said I’m confused please.
@@SaulAguilar87258 Ei only unlocks her full power in her second story quest, the raiden that spilt the island is like 2× weaker than the raiden that's now stated to be able to vaporize oceans
0:24 Low tier Dragon moment 🥶
let me guess: zhongli or raiden hard simp
@@bri_kleccondrake3896 nah Capitano and Columbina 🛐
@@StupidBoiwaitingforRobinClown
I think we learned that visions are indeed granted by power of dragons that current archons have and while Raiden said that she does not have anything to do with granting visions the fact that Kazuha was granted Electro vision firs in who knows how much time, I believe that Ei subconsciously didn't want to kill him or smtng like that.
Read Neuvillette’s vision story. Archons don’t have authority over granting visions. It’s an automatic process set up by Celestia.
@@FBlI also suspect the Electro dragon is dead and has no sovereign either, so there’s no electro visions being granted.
@@FBl I did read it. But archons are in possession of stolen dragons authorities and visions are granted from those. Neuivilette recognised that and made decisions to follow through. Giving part of his power to those he see fit. Furina being the first.
Ei is dismissive when she talk about visions but also secretive. We now know that divine throne is what really make an archon and divine throne not gnosis. And divine throne may have some will of its own since it is made possible from dragons authorities. But Ei without throne would be still very proficient in wielding electro as she was before being appointed as archon. Dunno
@@kuvrut7747 Ei’s personal power is not the point here tho. It’s just that she and other archons have no control over vision distribution. So Ei had no say when Kazuha activated the Electro vision.
Archons don't have a say in it, but they do actually give out visions, they just don't know who they give it out to, it's like a signal then they have to give a portion of their power to th3 vision holder, but they can't refuse or agree, they just have to do it
That's why Ei says she doesn't actually have a say in who gets visions or not, she doesn't say she doesn't give them out she just says it's not by her choice that someone gets one
I watched this video and got hooked on your channel. One comment though, please start using a proper outro. I was confused when the video just suddenly ended.
LMAO
Hey love the vids but I have a question.
Can hidro visions still be made now that all the stuff happened with Neuv and Furina?
Yes, there was one at the end of the most recent story quest.
Yes, and instead of a corresponding archon and Celestia, it is Nevilette who now unconsciously gives them out. These new Visions probably even don't have the usual "become Celestia's slave at the end of life" clause written in it.
@@r.d.6290 oh thx I’ve never even heard of the line but I’m looking more into it now.
yea like others said its in his "Visions" tab under stories where he talks about it@@alexandrebatista8600
@_@ c6 neuvi is the strongest. :) just make him deal 120k per charged. :) then spin the mouse/joystick. :| in the abyss 12 first half of first 2 chember. I just completed the first half within 30-35 seconds. I mean time remains 9:28 something... @_@ that's huge.
3 months late. Just gonna say that I personally feel like the Forbidden Knowledge did more harm to the Sovereigns than it did help them. Hell, it had them so messed up that Apep decided to use Deshret's Kingdom as guinea pigs to see if it could be at all usable without tearing yourself apart. It seems as though Phanes/Primordial One was battling with the Dragons for quite the long time, with the use of Forbidden Knowledge being what sealed the Dragons' fate.
Of course, Neuvillette is still only a single Sovereign, so he for damn sure isn't beating Celestia unless the Primordial One is on some Waarhammer 40K crack and is just a glorified corpse using its various puppets to keep control over the world
that last sentence lmfao i am crying
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia
Phanes boss fight: czcams.com/video/qt2Q0fKueHc/video.html
@@somedudewithakeyboard5388 LMFAOOOOOOO AHAHA NOOOO
Cuz this one was the puppet who did use the sword but when she killed the dragon she was herself 5:06
Also she got another upgrade after she fought 500 years with the puppet and she found out the real power of the sword
he can just explode your blood finish
Also nuvi didnt defeat the whale when that had the power of primordial sea cuz he said that before fight he cleared the power of that sea from the whale by controlling the water 7:04
Actually Skirk said she sense how powerful Nuvi is so misleading moment
@@lazyvoid7107 she said she sensed the gnosis if u want to say something say it completely instead of doing it on your benefits
Venti is a drunk (plays good tunes though I will admit), Ei is a fraud (parried by kazuha with 3* unascended weapon), Zhongli is borderline senile and Nahida is a child. Let me see her flush her anxiety dookie away when Neuvillette pulls up to waterlog that damn tree. The Seven is a sorry roster of gods and the archon war was a bot lobby. Also the second who came is in cahoots with the primordial one and he moved forbidden knowledge into poor dragon neighborhoods, got them addicted to the hope that sinful power provided them "the war on forbidden knowledge" was a convenient excuse.
Also:
1) Azhdaha didnt have his authority ye but Zhongli did share a bit of his power with him prior to the fight so he wasnt totally weakened
2) Azhdaha admitted Zhongli was "always the strongest" among them
3) its harder to seal than kill. Azhdaha also stated zhongli was capable of killing him ("if it werent for that, you would've killed me ages ago...")
Azdaha is not confirmed to be a sovereign. He could be a dragon but not sovereign yet.
@@thomaskennedy5728 that's true, he shares the same exact characters as Neuvillette though, so everyone is rolling with it
I believe when they say he shared his power was that back when azdaha was below ground possibly a weakened sovereign or a normal dragon he gave him eyes with his power or after giving him eyes he gave him a little of his power so he could be normal again basically or like de age.
Also about the sealing part it wasn’t done by zhongli the seal was done by thte adepti he called to help him. In a world quest it was revealed that zhongli fought azdaha back and when he managed to do so (which we don’t know if he was holding back or azdaha was as both contradict each other) he told the other adepti to seal him and so they did
Either way hoyoverse left too little for us to give a conclusive answer
Pov: you are not an simp and knows the truth
Will neuvillette should be stronger than archons
And the prove is the the previous hydro archon egeria was not strong enough to turn the oceanids into real humans, and hydro archon focalors admitted that only the full power of the hydro dragon sovereign can save Fontaine from its prophecy.
So this proves that the dragon sovereign’s are stronger than archons. However in comparison to celestia and heavenly principles I don’t think he stands a chance.
I want to add a note about kazuha, I don’t think that the shogun was actually using anything of her true power to fight kazuha, I mean she literally turned a harbinger into ash in just a second .
Someone feeling being strong and someone actually strong there is deference
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your point on nibelung is that even him and the rest of the dragons couldn't beat the principles, but they almost did. neuvillette story reveals that the original usurper was so badly wounded in the war that they were physically unable to contain the world and restrain the authorities they had stolen. so with the aid of the one who came after, used the 3rd descenders body to make the gnosis to appoint archons and split the authorities. the archons were never meant to be part of the plan. the forbidden knowledge, most likely abyssal energy, is proven to be poisonous to the dragons. i don't believe he used it for a power boost to replace the one he lost. we are told about invaders from beyond the firmament being summoned after nibelung attained forbidden knowledge and that the nails that celestial threw down that massively scarred the world was a last ditch effort to beat them. the principle was dealing with weakened dragons with no authority ( around 4.1 neuvillette level) a massively poisoned nibelung and an army of unknown beings/creatures. the principle had the shades, the authorities of the world and maybe even the one who came after ( maybe the second who came???) and had to drop what was the equivalent of divine nukes to win.
neuvillette describes himself as an equal to that of the human world. the human world is synonymous to mortal realm which contains the archons as well. the principle refers to the deities themselves as humans ' the usurper and one who came after created the Gnoses together. So it came to be that an order was made to be upheld, and thus did humans come to only possess these seven remembrances, and all fragments of the primordial were driven to devour each other.' I don't see how there is much to discuss, neuvillette is very forward with what he believes he can do. before he obtained the authority he didn't believe he could stop the narwhal. after he did he knew he could. the dragons lost their powers before the war had started and were forced to subjugate. the dragons that the principle fought never had their full powers they were robbed before any real war began. celestia itself is very much against rebellious nations khaenriah, remuria, king deshrets kingdom, sal vindagnyr (which was destroyed for no real reason, perhaps it was destroyed because the people were about to gain access to the first irminsul tree, which contained knowledge about the previous world) and Raiden shogun was terrified that if inazuma developed too quickly it too would be destroyed. fontaine was one of these nations. Egeria a being made by one of the shades was sentenced to a cruel fate of watching her nation be destroyed for making life. yet neuvillette, after gaining his throne as a ruler and authority back, changes the prophecy, usurped the hydro archon and openly tells us he will judge not only the archons but the principle themselves. this is the biggest threat to celestia since the cataclysm maybe bigger since these beings had a 40 year war, while depowered, that injured their ruler and yet nothing. the thing is the throne neuvillette obtained is different from the archons. his throne is similar to that of the heavenly principle he was a being who ruled the world and that status has been returned the same as his previous incarnation lost it. he wasn't subjected to the worlds rules, he isn't affected by the principles control of destiny and fate. he doesn't have a constellation from celestia. he gave himself a constellation his own fate, not for his sake but for the people and the melusines. the position of his constellation is unique itself its placed in a position held for the overseers beings who could openly defy the world.
I have wrote basically an essay on this matter
TL;DR neuvillette can do shit archons can't like, change fates and defy world rules
celestia had to cheat to win
big up water boy
the usurper was hurt in the great war vengeance, which came after the war with the sovereigns. his functions were ruined in that war, which means prior to that war he used his absolute authroity to keep down the sovereigns all by himself. so ya he cleared them
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia No, the war of vengence was the war. the first encounter with the sovereigns the power was striped. they fought again with forbidden knowldge which caused the injury
@@ismailahmed7921 i disagree and while i could be wrong, i intrepet it as such:
“severly wounded im the great war of vengeance, the usurper had their functions ruined, and could no longer use their absolute authority to suppress the original order of this world”
the fact that the usurper could once use their absolute authority to supress the original order of this world indcates to me Phanes won the first war, and did it pretty easily to the point where after the war, he alone was strong enough to supress the sovereigns.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia I understand where you are coming from, i thought the same as well, but i'[m pretty sure that upon contact phanes took the authority for itself. then afterwards there was a fight at no point did the dragons face the principles with there original power. the feat that could be accredited to phanes being perhaps stronger was its ability to wield more than one authority at its prime. know i don't know if the dragons could do the same or if they had to specifically get their authority back. neuvillette makes it seem like the authority they gain from the archon doesn't matter since he said in his ascension VL ' regained one of the authorities' i guess we will have to see.
Neuvilette became the Kratos of Genshin Impact. 😂
he will b soon
Coming from a Greek person: the plurar of gnosis is not gnoseses but GNOSES spoken like the singular form. No hate but just dropping this here in case you care to correct yourself
Gnosis (singular), gnoses (plural)
I wonder is Neuvillte is stronger than the original elemental dendro dragon that is still alive.
If neuvillette was to fight apep(the elemental sensor dragonl) neuvillette would definitely win since apep doesn’t have her elemental authority nahida does so apep is massively weakened
@@archie2456 yes, and the new world quest sheds some light on how new elementals dragons are born or evolved with time with same old authority and memories, Neuvilitte has regained the power but still lacks memories.
I mean can't Nahida just pull out the "Dormamu I've come to bargain" move?
Celestia when Neuvillette comes to judge them: What is this angry water snake doing here?
Something I'd like to point out about Venti in this case- Mondstat still has plenty of faith in him, they have 4 festivals dedicated to honoring Barbatos, so he still receives power from faith. That being said- Celestia's sooner uploading a 'addressing the allegations' video then Venti is beating Neuvillette in any fight unless it's a drinking one. Barbatos isn't a particularly combat-focused god- so I doubt his skill in fighting will match Neuvillette who literally has the memories of past lives to pull on.
I also feel like we should factor the 'Divine Thrones' into the strength of the Archon- their seats that contain the stolen power of the Sovereigns but even then, a dragon without their authority is already rivaling an Archon so that won't enable them to beat the Sovereign. But that's still quite a noteworthy amount of power the Archons have, given it's the absolute command over the element.
As for Ei- the reason Kazuha blocked that strike was because Ei wasn't going all-out. She didn't want to vaporize her own city. I remember hearing the Shogun puppet was designed to replicate the Shogun at full power- and we even see during the boss fight with the puppet that it still has more power to give. I reckon that giant sword slash was likely closer to the strike Ei dealt Orabashi. (Also, as far as the people of Inazuma are concerned, Ei does directly rule them. Sure it's not true in technicality, but I feel like the people are the ones deciding if a god is giving them commands or not.)
Anyway, I'm pretty sure Azhdaha's the Geo Sovereign. I mean, the Sovereigns are all vishaps and Azhdaha is called the 'Lord Of Geovishaps' I don't think it gets clearer than that- There might be some confusion with Azhdaha being 'built' by Zhongli, but the thing that makes a Sovereign isn't their bodies, it's their elemental spirits. And so, even if said spirit is inhabiting a Geo Construct- it would still be considered a Sovereign.
this is well put together
I still have my doubts about Neuvillette. Yes, he's a full-fledged dragon sovereign now, but I think he lacks the experience. So, he definitely has the potential to become stronger than any archon, but I don't believe he's reached that potential yet.
So, unless he's been secretly hitting the gym every day after court, Ei's gonna cook his ass.
I disagree just cause well he really only needs his authority he has full mastery over his element already he doesn’t need any training
@@SaulAguilar87258 Nah, combat is not only about elemental power
@@GrimoireGiove when talking abt neuvillete I think most is. He already showed super speed and practically teleporting. This is just his basic state. Then the strenght which he showed to defeating transformation tartaglia in a blow.
@@GrimoireGiove aside from that he only needs his elemental power which he has complete control over
@@SaulAguilar87258 Other than taking out a distracted transformed Tartaglia, he really doesn't have any other big combat feats. So, until then!
Don't knock Kazuha. He's the only person in history to activate 2 visions at once and it gave him the strength to barely block an insanely powerful god's attack. And we all know how broken of a unit he is with just 1 vision. lol
this vid so old lol. but ur not wrong
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia I know, but it's not like any of this lore was expanded on since. We need more story events with Ei and Kazuha. I rather enjoyed their story quests. lol
One itty witty wible sovereign of water 😂😂😂 based line
Just saying, raiden beheaded orobashi with 1 cut (and in turn sliced an island and a half by accident) without her gnosis
but was also blocked by kazuha
@@DawitsLookingforEmiliawhy would she go all out in her own fucking city
Bro is down bad for unknown god- I mean Kiana alter
i promise u i c6 her she will take it all
My wishful thinking playable character is Nibolong and the primordial one.
at the very least im sure the sustainer will be playable cause its just kiana
LMAOOOA please just say gnosi 😭😭😭😭 “no-sigh” or “nos-eye”
bro LMFAO
makes sense why venti is the weakest...he shares the anemo with the wolf and dragon and xiao i think
as strong as neuvillete is he cant kill the cats in monsdadt
I love your cackling 😂
Real quick:
1 Gnosis
2 Gnosis’
Pronounced the same way
As of now (currently) in terms of power
Celestia
Abbys Order
Sovereign
Archons
Fatui
Hexzencircle
Adepti
Khightd of Favonious
The rest....
who does celestia refer to here
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia the ones in the sky
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia what do u think about it? If I'm wrong please correct me....I just said in my POV 🙏🏻
oh hey lol.
its tough. take celestia for instance, while once they were clearly above everyone else, they no doubt must be weaker given the primoridal was wounded so badly it could no longer use its "absolute authority".
But even with that being the case they still control teyvat every other faction is taking major precautions in trying to confront them
As for the abyss order, its impossible to say rn. We still havent seen the "meat" of what the abyss is capable of, but we do know they are capable of killing archons, and even nulliyfing the powers of the "divine"
But as for how that stacks em up against the sovereigns, is unknown. The sovereigns only have one person with their authority, and thats only 1 of 7. As it stands right now im not sure how powerful they are as a collective.
Archons are interesting because from here, it depends how you define "power". Currently Id wager the Fatui are stronger then the archons seeing as there are now only 6 archons, and 4 of them dont have their gnosis anymore. Whilst the fatui have 6 gnoses, plus the harbingers. Dottore for instance has shown hes capable of defeating Nahida in battle, and if he can beat her then odds are he can beat Venti too. Theres 8 harbingers and 3 of them have the strength of gods, and they have an archon with their gnosis.
Hexenzirkel are very powerful but a complete mystery rn lol. We know Alice is supremely powerful in a multitude of different fields and has been likened to a god, Rhinedottir is a master alchemist whose creations have brought destruction to teyvat, Barbeloth is a visionary who can read the fate of the entire world, and Nicole, whilst still an enigma, is like Alice somehow immune to irminsul. Id move the hexenzirkel up some slots.
get the knights of favonious the fuck outta here lol.
My list would look something like
1. Celestia
2. Abyss
3. Fatui
4. Archons
5. Hexenzirkel
this could be a fun video idea I kinda wanna do it in the future after I research it some more
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia What about Harbringers V/S Hexenzirkel?
In a sudden face off I think Harbringers would cook them....but idk about preparation?
Yeah it could be a fun video in future....we people would love to hear from u ❤️🥳🤩😊
5:10 should have given more attention while playing story instead of skipping dialogues.
The writing is very good and consistent.
The moment where Kazuha stopped Raiden’s slash was a throwback. The whole Inazuma story revolved around how Ei is the epitome of power and how no gods matched against her Musou no hitotachi. Hell, she struck once to kill Orobashi and ended up splitting three islands. The moment Kazuha stopped the strike actually validated another phrase that was being used quite so often. ‘Human ambition can even topple the heavenly principles’. Kazuha’s ambition to save his friend was so strong, combined with his dead friend’s ambition to face the divine judgement stopped the attack. It doesn’t make Ei weak. It signifies the role human ambition plays in the story.
A few hundred years may be troll ish for humans but in comparison to their lifespan its nothing much
but i wanna see them fight
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia me too 🥺
I was picturing it and I thought Neuvillette would lose to the Archons followers before he even got to face them, which made me think what about the full force of each nation how do they stack up against each other? I put my thoughts from weakest to strongest disregarding home field advantages:
Sumeru - Apep(unlikely), Wonderer, Aranara, Cyno, Alhatham, their standing army(desert mercenaries) and Nahida
Inazuma - Yae Miko, Kokomi, Kujo Sara, Other kitsune or yokai, their standing army (well trained ninja and samurai) and Ei
Fontaine - Automitons, Melusines(not battle proven), advanced tech, Standing army, and Neuvillete(Single handedly dragging them up from dead last imo)
Liyue - The Adepti notabley Xiao(Adepti do a lot of heavy lifting), Crux fleet, Standing army the milileth, the Qixing Ninguang and Keqing, the Exorcists most likely and Zhongli
Mondstat - The 4 winds including Dvalin, Andreus(Andreus is to Boreas as Gouba is Marchosius), Vanessa(a literal Celestian) and Varka, the other knights captains notably Albedo but all are strong, other knights notably Klee and by extension likely Alice, Mona and Barbaloth and Venti
Sneznaya - Does it really need to be said?
Yes but I'd imagine many of the people you have listed like for example Alice are probably in the position of the Soverigns just not caring about their resident archon like probably zhongli and the geo soverign
@@StupidBoiwaitingforRobin Yh I did mention that some of them may be unwilling to fight and factored that into my ranking.
As for Alice specifically I only mentioned her because Klee would fight and was explicit that Alice was an extension of that because otherwise she probably wouldn't.
@@GhostEmblem sorry I meant barbeloth which would be hard to contact. And Varka who has been away for years but yes if you add up all the possibilities I think alot of the nations will be able to defend themselves against him but if we're talking about the archons specifically I don't think Neuvelette will just enter and run wild I believe he has to judge them first as he likely doesn't know them that well he will probably invite them to Fontain. I doubt they'd pick a fight and would probably be either neutral or unite with him against Celestia
yea i think its depends if u include the hexenzrikel, if not then prolly szenyha because they have at least 4 people with god strength
Too bad he can't live Fontaine (Electricity issue 😂)
Meta wise this guy is the strongest.
depends on cons
I don't remember where exactly, but I recall someone in the game saying the dragons grow stronger with age? So like, I wonder if it's possible that Apep with several thousand years behind her is now about as strong if not stronger than Neuvillette with his authority restored, since Neuvillette kinda seems to be around 500 if not younger.
Nahida and venti could be the strongest and here is why
Nahida can literally alt+f4 someone in Teyvat this includes the archons , also she can loop the archon in the samsara cycle
While Venti theoretically can summon a black hole due his element Anemo
This black hole can decompose your skin and destroy all of Teyvat
how does wind create a black hole lol
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia the element anemo theoretically in science or whatever can create one I rlly don’t know how but this is mostly based on the strength of wind also might be proven just search it don’t ask me for information
@@Elena_edits. no i wanna ask you. please inform me and the entire world how wind can create a black hole, despite the fact that black holes dont suck anything and only pull things in due to their mass.
youd win the noble prize so come on then
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia don’t ask me sir I’m stupid , I only have info from some other Genshin impact theory make I do not want to cause any drama between us , like I fr hate drama but if you want I can write a whole essay about it and I will
what r u talking about lmfao. u made an assertion and i challenged it. this is just a debate, where is the drama?
yea lemme the essay cause what ur saying isnt googleable
for now 1 neuvilette,2 zhongli
hmmm
It is
*than
The plural of gnosis is gnoses pronounced NO SEAS
I feel like I could see him 1v1ing all the Archons. But if the Archons were to team up, say maybe 2 or 3 of them, I don't see him winning that.
I would in 1v1 he can beat most archons but equal to zhongli but not against ei
Day 5 of asking for a Honkai video (I smell something coming) 🛐
soon, stupidboi329, soon.
Stronger *Than
Not Then
Day 4 of asking for a Honkai video
I SWEAR I STILL HAVEN FORGOTTEN
The plural should be like Cactui not Cactusus
gnosi
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia yeah
Didn’t venti give his power to Dvalin??Shouldn’t dvalin be the current animo sovereign????
Wow people on this channel don't like neuvillette for some reason even ignoring that THE MAN CAN CHANGE FATE IT SELF yet naaaaaa he weak pro trust be bro.
Only the heavenly principles and their shades are allowed to change fate so him being able to change it makes him already above all the Archons who are bounded by fate.
If we should compare neuvillette to someone it shouldn't be the heavenly principles (because first they are gone possibly, sacrificed them selfs 500 years ago and even if they didn't the heavenly principles is the strongest entity in the story) but should be comperd to she shades which are stronger then the archon but weaker then the primordial one, and since we don't know much about them we can't really compare for know.
So it's time to to put the basis aside and acknowledge neuvillette as the current strongest character both in lore and gameplay.
At least until new information presented itself......
They are coping
If this is true than Natlan better bring the heavy hitters of playable characters then otherwise no one will pull for them if they’re not as strong if not stronger than Nuevellete.
Its hard tô find someone stronger than him on lore, but on the game play things change
All i know is i want the captain to be playable
Bro really thinks people only pull for characters if they are powerful in lore like wtf
Hi, Ei states that shes the most powerful personification of lightning in the whole of teyvat
This statement would mean
Ei>electro sovereign
She might be saying this because the Electro Sovereign Dragon might be already dead . As lots of Sovereign Dragon died while fighting the Primodial one. We only saw Apep who is still alive.
@@luffy6164 As elemental beings, Sovereigns can't truly die. The elemental energy will gather back in one place creating a new Sovereign.
Im curious about the statement and even if she was stronger than the electro sovereign right now it would mean nothing the sovereign is weakened as it doesn’t have its authority ei has it as she is the one in the electro throne.
@@SaulAguilar87258 Ei doesn't have it, the authority is the gnosis and Ei never used it before
@@LaSignorasfav The Elemental Authorities and the Gnoses are two different things. The Authorities were stolen from the Sovereigns and used as the divine thrones of the Archons, and the Gnoses were the remains of the Third Descender and were given to the Archons as another source of power.
Well, he recently ascended to full dragonhood, so he probably hasn't learned to harness his hydro powers to its full potential. It should take a while before he can go toe-to-toe with Ei and Morax.
The Usurper and its four shades ? They.
They're not playable yet tho
@@StupidBoiwaitingforRobin That's not my point. I meant that Neuvillette as beef with them when he said "they", not especially the archons who are just puppets.
@@gillesnotard69 I ain't paying attention pay me no mind
He probably regained his memory after becoming full fledged dragon.
@@52_Roninhe did and
Also it stated in his character story that PO is very weakened after the “battle of revange" and can no longer suppress the old rules thus he and the one who came after created the gnosis from the 3 rd descendare's body parts
I hate that powerscale comunity says ei beat neuvillete because he is """""featless""""""""
He doasen't really have any feats,and just because he had the gnosis Before celestia took it doasen't make him stronger than an archon,because they can also wield the power of a gnosis.Also Archons gain additional strenght based on how many people beliave in them,Raiden Ei for example can manipulate Reality and sooo many more abilities,Morax and Prime Venti too, Neuvillette just has no notable feats exept shooting water... Current strongest character should be The Raiden Shogun,after her its current Neuvillette.
You evidently still haven't done 4.2, I can tell that much from the very first sentence.
You should play the last act of the Fontaine Chapter.
Pretty sure Zhongli is considered the strongest archon, so even if he is losing power for not having the gnosis, it hasn't been that long and he should still be incredibly powerful.
Spoiler, since as others have said you seem like you haven't completed 4.2.
Neuvillette has full authority over the hydro element and can do something as crazy as converting all of the blood in every single Fontainian's veins from primordial water to real blood in pretty much an instant. He quite easily takes down the Narwhal (we are assisting but he does most of the heavy lifting).
@@THExJMC I don't think Zhongli is as powerful as it may seems.
Sure, legends told about his many feats, but we've never seen him fight, and the Traveler beat Raiden who was a real fighter, so I can't really see how Zhongli could be stronger.
@@THExJMC Yeah, and turning something like primordial sea to actual blood is manipulating atoms themselves if we go full logic here, wich is modify molecules themselves that requires a lot of energy and complicated proceedures, and Neuvillette made that instantly to a whole damn country.
neuvilette is not as strong as he thinks he is rex lapis would rek him hard ways
Rex lapis is weak especially right now
@@StupidBoiwaitingforRobin still stronger than hydro fake dragon there is areason the dragons lost in the first place its not cuz the lost there authority that came after they had lost already
Rex Lapis is dead lil bro.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks no? xD
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks rex lapis is mora lapis or should i say zhongli so stop talkin bs xD
Neuvelette has to be the weakest soverign (with authority) I mean hydro is probably the weakest element in lore I can't imagine the pyro authority being anything but RAW CRACK.
With his authority alone, he was able to modify the the body of all Fontanians, converting the Primordial Sea in their veins into actual blood.
No archon has the capability of doing this considering they’re scared shitless of Heavenly Principles. Neuvillettes authority is on par with the Heavenly Principles.
@@Balls3829 I mean as an element it self water should be among the weakest I just meant the pyro dragon has to be really strong singe it's archon is war after all
@@you-yn5hp Some sus leaks say that the Pyro Sovereign in Natlan is the oldest and most powerful of the new Sovereigns, and that his power, even without the Pyro Authority, is already equal to that of a fully-fledged Sovereign.
Of course, these leaks are probably gonna be fake, so unless the concept art for the Pyro Sovereign and the Electro Sovereign (she's in Natlan as well according to the leaks, and is apparently a total pushover) gets leaked like what happened with the Fontaine characters, it's safe to disregard them.
@@you-yn5hp I typed out a reply but it disappeared, so I'll just suggest you go take a look in the Genshin leaks subreddit as well as the FatuiHQ subreddit.
Dude, Hydro Sovereign was considered as Prince of dragons, kinda second in hierarchy right after dragon king Nibelung... Hydro Sovereign is basically original source of all biological life in old Teyvat. He is not the weakest by far, most likely second after Nibelung.
Neuvillette is strong but Zhongli is the strongest he's hiding his power and waiting because he knows war is coming any time . feels like Liyue as a land and ppl gives you the vibes of the strongest ( in characters , you can rely and go to ) and most stablished in all Teyvat . he didn't interfere because he knows Liyue ppl stronger mentally and power . Neuvillette needs time to fully control his powers he will take time ( maybe 500 years more )
Aether Don't have NO SIS
then what he have
@@DawitsLookingforEmiliahusbandos
Lmao what ??
There is a big different in Power.
Nuevellete already reach Peak of his power. But Archon is different because They can "Resonance" with other Vision users. so archon has more potential to be stronger.
Bro Neuvillette isn’t just at his own peak, he’s at hydro’s peak.
And as he mentioned, peak Zhongli with all his power couldn’t determine if Azhdaha was stronger than him or not.