Neuvillette Might Be Impossible To Powercreep | Meta Analysis

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  • čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
  • A meta analysis about Neuvillette and powercreep in Genshin Impact
    00:00 Why Neuvillette Is The Best
    04:18 Low Risk = High Reward
    06:17 Current DMG Ceiling and Future
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  • @TheGenshinScientist
    @TheGenshinScientist  Před 6 měsíci +47

    Gave up on the editing after 10 seconds. Also, happy new year!!!
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  • @William_111
    @William_111 Před 6 měsíci +740

    The only part missing in this video, is how as a dps he can sustain dmg by himself. Neuvillette is the only character that can heal himself back to full health without losing dps or having to switch to another character.

    • @Tnscla
      @Tnscla Před 6 měsíci +87

      He also can use the MH set without Furina, freeing you to use her in other teams.
      Im actually considering getting Childe next time he comes back just to use him instead of Furina in Nuev teams lol.

    • @impostorsyndrome1350
      @impostorsyndrome1350 Před 6 měsíci +25

      No??? Rizzley can do that at some cons, Gaming will be able to do it too, and a bunch of future characters. It's just a matter of when rather than of if

    • @twistaaahh4787
      @twistaaahh4787 Před 6 měsíci +92

      Heres the thing
      Wrio actually cant self sustain at c0, infact he needs a healer to be played at c0
      And ga ming has gameplay issues with his plunges pushing enemies back
      Either waiy, neuvilette just makes their self healing look abysmal

    • @Raygetto
      @Raygetto Před 6 měsíci +15

      Not only that, even his blue balls mechanic for CA can be ignored simply by holding CA. He doesn’t suffer nearly as much from interruption to his rotation or missing skills/ energy.

    • @Daniel-xs1bx
      @Daniel-xs1bx Před 6 měsíci +15

      ​@@impostorsyndrome1350
      No, Wriothesley loses more life than he recovers, he has to lose 40% of his life and the loaded one only recovers 30% so at some point he will run out of life if you don't take a healer

  • @cloudweaving
    @cloudweaving Před 6 měsíci +431

    honestly from a lore perspective, i'm glad he's as op as he is and i'm glad he will have a lot of longevity because he's canonically one of, if not, THE most powerful beings in the world of teyvat

    • @hirone5337
      @hirone5337 Před 6 měsíci +58

      Yea not counting Celestia he s absolutely the strongest at this point

    • @TheGwilwileth
      @TheGwilwileth Před 6 měsíci +14

      Completely agree…

    • @aurelia2132
      @aurelia2132 Před 6 měsíci +25

      Completely agree! I'm so glad he lives up to his lore.

    • @Daniel-xs1bx
      @Daniel-xs1bx Před 6 měsíci +43

      Yes, I couldn't take it anymore that the best dps are weak in the lore, literally only Alhaitham was a strong top tier dps in the lore

    • @hirone5337
      @hirone5337 Před 6 měsíci +12

      @@Daniel-xs1bx I hope that CR makes Xiao OP.. because I love him and I love how strong he is in Lore …

  • @Jawir-bu2pj
    @Jawir-bu2pj Před 6 měsíci +343

    I just realised that neuvilette is one of the rare character that has attack that can penetrate mitacurl shield without poise breaking

    • @bumerang6525
      @bumerang6525 Před 6 měsíci +49

      YES forget abyss its like water breaking nokia phone video i was so shocked when i first find out haha

    • @cyberjeeb
      @cyberjeeb Před 6 měsíci +38

      Bro I always said xiao was an underated DPS for his sheild pericing and universal uses, but the only counter to neuvillete is hydro which is an awesome counter to have cause free hyperbloom.

    • @Kross_Vik
      @Kross_Vik Před 6 měsíci +3

      Navia Gunbrella too

    • @Kindi001
      @Kindi001 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Swirl its very nature already penerate that shield tho

    • @Cocxy69
      @Cocxy69 Před 6 měsíci

      Xiao does it too, not as good ig but I think he's the second only that can

  • @zaraki942
    @zaraki942 Před 6 měsíci +46

    Bro said fk er, fk a team, fk a healer, fk running to enemy and fk celestia

    • @i_wont_touch_grass8917
      @i_wont_touch_grass8917 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Team wise there are multiple better teams, albeit hard to use

    • @zaraki942
      @zaraki942 Před 4 měsíci

      @@i_wont_touch_grass8917 no, neuvillete teams >>

  • @maevethefox5912
    @maevethefox5912 Před 6 měsíci +299

    My friend got c0r1 Neuvillette and just shot from 28 to 36 stars in a couple weeks, it's insane. I used to have to help him clear domains and now he's lightyears beyond me in clear time just from one dude.

    • @kingdoom5022
      @kingdoom5022 Před 6 měsíci +36

      you can pretty much easily 36 star abyss with almost any 5 star DPS at C0R1 , not neuvellite exclusive thing

    • @Sambroke
      @Sambroke Před 6 měsíci

      Genshin players are so shit they need to completely break an already easy game

    • @maevethefox5912
      @maevethefox5912 Před 6 měsíci +48

      @@kingdoom5022 Just new. Was maining Ayaka before, Neuvillette was just such a bonkers increase in damage despite have trash artifacts and not a ton of experience

    • @user-lk6wy8mz6w
      @user-lk6wy8mz6w Před 6 měsíci +1

      Not really. He has a more powerful character than you...but you have more skill.

    • @Hencid
      @Hencid Před 6 měsíci +112

      @@kingdoom5022 no other dps in the game outside of neuvillette can hard carry a team on his own and with bad artifact in a couple of weeks, stop the cap 🧢 you know full well that even a juiced up c3 raiden can't accomplish that

  • @owlofficial765
    @owlofficial765 Před 6 měsíci +78

    His charged attack is literally Ayaka's burst but better. Controllable and almost permanent while just needing 3 hydro reactions to boost damage. Worth to mention that his charged attack has more vertical AoE than Ayaka which pierces anything at the back as well

    • @angeloamor4882
      @angeloamor4882 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Indeed

    • @lumiere3295
      @lumiere3295 Před 5 měsíci +16

      I said same thing in Reddit last month and got downvoted to the ground lol

    • @owlofficial765
      @owlofficial765 Před 5 měsíci +10

      @@lumiere3295 ayaka stans are the most loyal beings so its expected ig. But if we really compare how they both deal damage its similar despite the differences

    • @FerryJoe-lh8ex
      @FerryJoe-lh8ex Před 5 měsíci +3

      ​@@owlofficial765 yes but with Ayaka's burst you can still do further damage through NA , CA and Elemental skill while for Neuvilette , during his CA , he cant really do anything else. But of course at the cost of Ayaka's burst having downtime and its uncontrollably laughable like it goes to another place for no reason

    • @owlofficial765
      @owlofficial765 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@FerryJoe-lh8ex tbf yes she does other things during her burst and Ayaka's burst has faster ticks/hitrate than Neuvi's CA but all of that for her to get her burst only miss or get wasted most often is just... And beside of how she requires like a lot of energy to do her main damage (her and her supports) Neuvi just wants 3 hydro reactions for them to do practically the same range of damage except Neuvi mostly don't suffer from downtime. And he can be played with Permafreeze team as well is just stealing everything from ayaka😭. Well he deserves his gameplay strength as a dragon sovereign tho

  • @bryanstrongwind7020
    @bryanstrongwind7020 Před 6 měsíci +38

    1 range aoe high dps
    2 can heal
    3 can use MH set
    4 can face tank since he's high hp scaling dps
    5 can reposition easily
    6 hydro element
    7 his signature is too op for him, can solve energy problem
    8 c1 has insane interruption resistance, and can use hydro resonance

    • @bryanstrongwind7020
      @bryanstrongwind7020 Před 6 měsíci +20

      9 can pierce shield

    • @Shreyash112
      @Shreyash112 Před 5 měsíci +5

      10 can defeat floating enemies which litrally few does even with more dmg

    • @zach5935
      @zach5935 Před 5 měsíci +5

      11 high uptime - downtime ratio makes him easy as hell to use

    • @ChrisWilliams-ur7fn
      @ChrisWilliams-ur7fn Před 5 měsíci +4

      12 can do insane amounts of single rotation damage to multiple targets with terrible artifact luck and mediocre investment

    • @narukahatsu
      @narukahatsu Před 5 měsíci +5

      13 even non gameplay wise he is peak design

  • @jemarle32
    @jemarle32 Před 6 měsíci +31

    In addition, he also gains a LOT of damage with investment at low constellations (C1, C2 or even C3) (although at C6 he becomes a complete monster). His C1 is absolutely crazy (although not necessary) as he becomes a practically inmortal character: I feel safer having Neuvillette on the field than being with Zhongli's shield in another character.

  • @TyLeeEnjoyer
    @TyLeeEnjoyer Před 6 měsíci +246

    The worst thing about Neuvillette's strength is that in every other upcoming dps character discussion we're all going to have to suffer a small army of Neuvillette mains telling the rest to "JuSt PuLl NeUVillEtTe XD".

    • @LargeBanana
      @LargeBanana Před 6 měsíci +99

      But they are not wrong.

    • @doug3454
      @doug3454 Před 6 měsíci +34

      My response will be: "Nah, idc, he's boring to play." (I have him on a currently inactive account)

    • @sara_s1737
      @sara_s1737 Před 6 měsíci +41

      Tbh if people in the future will be looking for a strong DPS, obviously Neuvillette is gonna be an easy pick no matter how annoying it gets. With other characters it gets on my nerves but if you're really looking for easy big numbers, there is no lie in saying that Neuvillette is the one.

    • @sunnypa7101
      @sunnypa7101 Před 6 měsíci +24

      ​@@LargeBananaand so it begins

    • @Gummie24
      @Gummie24 Před 6 měsíci +10

      they could just make a fire breathing version of Neuvillette that uses Flamethrower instead of Hydro Pump.

  • @gizdra1128
    @gizdra1128 Před 6 měsíci +38

    Neuvilette has so much range and damage that he is able to pierce the mitachurl's powerful wooden shield. Not many achieve that powerful feat without help or elemental reactions.

  • @migoym6079
    @migoym6079 Před 6 měsíci +131

    I don’t think Hoyoverse intends to balance dps characters around Neuvilette at all. Neuvi is an outlier because he’s meant to be stronger than an archon lore-wise and they know that. Any future dps character would most likely be balanced around the likes of Hu Tao and Alhaitham

    • @CyanideOwl
      @CyanideOwl Před 6 měsíci +18

      Traveler is supposed to be stronger than anyone lorewise. 🤔

    • @migoym6079
      @migoym6079 Před 6 měsíci +43

      @@CyanideOwl Well he’s free tho and Hoyoverse doesn’t want that

    • @bored_potato
      @bored_potato Před 6 měsíci +6

      ​@@migoym6079 except for star rail's MC anyway

    • @migoym6079
      @migoym6079 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@bored_potato true

    • @koteghe7600
      @koteghe7600 Před 6 měsíci +4

      At point of lore we are in, he isn't stronger than archons
      makes sense he isn't more powerful than them in game​@@CyanideOwl

  • @impostorsyndrome1350
    @impostorsyndrome1350 Před 6 měsíci +66

    The good thing about Neuvillette is he's not just AoE god, he can also be ST boss. He's so versatile you can put him in hyperbloom team, and he cane make the thunder manifestation, or geo wolf lord (or other annoying bosses) a piece of cake.

  • @hritwikranjan2198
    @hritwikranjan2198 Před 6 měsíci +42

    You should do more of these analyses. I really enjoyed your Dendro Video where you went over how Mihoyo forced a change of how Mihoyo designed something and why they took certain decisions that they did

  • @pauljoseph3081
    @pauljoseph3081 Před 6 měsíci +31

    Neuv + Zhongli is all you need to clear the current Abyss

    • @salmanfarsi7413
      @salmanfarsi7413 Před 6 měsíci +19

      If you get neuviletts c1 you don't even need zhongle

    • @papupro2030
      @papupro2030 Před 6 měsíci

      @@salmanfarsi7413you don’t even need c1, i cleared floor 12 relatively easy with c0 solo neuvillette

    • @i_wont_touch_grass8917
      @i_wont_touch_grass8917 Před 4 měsíci

      By sacrificing the fun. DPS wise there are teams which deal more dmg but also more squishy and hard to use

    • @zoe218
      @zoe218 Před 3 měsíci +4

      ​@@i_wont_touch_grass8917fun is subjective. I happen to have most of the DPS in the game with their sigs and some c1s and still have more fun playing Neuv teams with his 20+ support options

  • @shura7762
    @shura7762 Před 6 měsíci +12

    Bro was strong on everything ( gameplay and story) so I pulled him and became the new main character 😎

  • @butterfer0808
    @butterfer0808 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Jstern's gonna have a field day with this. This is free content for the podcast

  • @RADZIO895
    @RADZIO895 Před 6 měsíci +13

    Imagine ayaka's ult, but it attacks for a longer part of the rotation and it's easier to set up and it can be aimed and it's a better element.

    • @i_wont_touch_grass8917
      @i_wont_touch_grass8917 Před 4 měsíci

      Ayaka hits harder (4422% in 5 secs).Neuvillete's CA is just easy to use and hit the opponent while Ayaka hits harder but it's also much harder to hit the opponents and its over if you miss it
      But Ayaka's burst has a much higher dmg scaling

    • @moimeme3122
      @moimeme3122 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@i_wont_touch_grass8917 in facts, not:
      raw ratios with different scalings don't mean a thing. Ayaka's burst when crown is 19 cuts + bloom 202.14%×19+303%.21 = 4144% total.
      In neuvillette's case, considering you cast the burst first then you have the time to perform 1.5 CA, it should be (burst damage + 2*waterfall) 40.06%+16.39%×2=73%
      then you add the CA damage, multiplied by either 1.25 or 1.6 depending on your number of A1 passive stacks: 14,47%×8 ticks×1,5=145% ×1,25 (typically in a furina team) =181%
      or x1.6 = 232%
      now make that 1 and half, you get respectively 271%+73%(burst) and 348%+73%, 344% and 421% total.
      now's the part you missed, what are these ratios scaling on? if i were to take only base ATK and HP, it would be unfair for ayaka, so let's add their respective weapon+5*flower and feather (the rest of the artifacts depends on build choices and rng, so this comparison would become arbitrary)
      but even with that, we now have:
      -ayaka baseATK: 1327
      -neuvillette baseHP: 21826
      and now you should see the big picture coming in:
      1327*4.144=54989 base damage for ayaka
      21826*3.44=75081 best case (or worst depending on the pov) or 21826*4.21=91887 for neuvillette.
      now add the rest of the second CA, and then ANOTHER ONE👆 (sry, i had to) and ayaka can't even compare, in a longer field time situation.

  • @ghassanehc
    @ghassanehc Před 6 měsíci +12

    The thing that I find hilarious with neuvi is although he is still incredible at a baseline with f2p investment, he gains so much more with vertical investment since his weapon and cons( early ones especially) and even Furina’s cons are a significant upgrade for him and even for the whole team if we talk about furina

  • @mickysaif
    @mickysaif Před 6 měsíci +11

    happy new year TGS I've been following your content since alhaitham leaks and you ahev always provided high quality content, thank you for the hard work

  • @lSeKToRl
    @lSeKToRl Před 6 měsíci +12

    This man didn't even mention what DPI quick switch on your gaming mouse allowing Neuvillette to nuke the whole room in a circle.

  • @manday2267
    @manday2267 Před 6 měsíci +15

    The thing that made Neuvillette even more broken, is because you can get the 3rd Stack at C0; with Furina; because you can infuse Kazuha’s Burst with Element that different than the Hydro Element; from the enemies, or the enemies are the one who effected by it. Which's really broken… Also you can give him Prototype Amber R5; with Furina, Zhongli; with Petra, and Kazuha, without needing a Healer; which's EVEN MORE BROKEN!!!

    • @vipsviper7203
      @vipsviper7203 Před 6 dny

      Plzz reply I didn't understand how did he get 3rd stack using furina at c0

  • @flare2874
    @flare2874 Před 6 měsíci +10

    Neuvillette is the main reason I can finally 36 stars abyss. All my others DPS are decent but man is just main character OP broken 😂 I was saving for Furina until he debuted and his gameplay made me pulled for him. Now C0R1 triple crowned (the only character with this privilege in my roster), aiming for C6 ❤
    Happy New Year everyone! Hope you win all 50/50s and your year be blessed with abundance of joy 🎉🎉🎉

  • @tsuwu5260
    @tsuwu5260 Před 6 měsíci +9

    As a non Neuvi haver, I'm happy Genshin is easy enough he is not crucial by any mean.
    Unless when someone plays ONLY because of him, of course.

  • @RafidW9
    @RafidW9 Před 6 měsíci +54

    I don't say this lightly, but in my 3 years of playing I've never seen a C0 dps character more busted than Neuvi. He's just wild, and at C1R1 he's like any other C6 5 star level of broken.

    • @cmcguire7901
      @cmcguire7901 Před 6 měsíci +10

      Yeah I have C1 with Sac Jade and a relatively good MH set (150 ER, 95-206 crit ratio) and at that point I don't have to invest anything more into his artifacts to easily clear the abyss, so I can always use him as a "crutch" while I build other characters that are harder to get to the level of easily clearing abyss. Like Navia has been way more fun to play but her artifact domain has been giving me trash so I don't think she'll be abyss ready for at least another month.

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz Před 6 měsíci +1

      alhaitham is a better dps than him at c0 and f2p investment lol

    • @Coppersulfate81
      @Coppersulfate81 Před 6 měsíci +10

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzzMore dps ≠ better dps. Alhaitham has energy issues and needs perfect timing + doesnt have great aoe. Neuvillette has acces to his damage almost 100% of the time, hes a true self sustainer. He also deals with multiple enemies at the same time

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Coppersulfate81 alhaitham energy issues?? he generates 6 particles himself, his NA and CA also generate energy every 3-4 hits and he attacks very fast like 20+ NA in a rotation, i get my burst back with 109% er and thatd without needing fav weaps

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Coppersulfate81 and aoe wise its wider than neuv and had enough length to make it be one of the best wave clear neuv aoe isnt even that good unless you do the 16k dpi mouse bug and neuv without his balls have a charge up time of 4s just to be able to do dmg ,

  • @manday2267
    @manday2267 Před 6 měsíci +8

    Releasing them characters like Furina, and Neuvillette; without releasing the 13 Floor of the Abyss; is a crime.

    • @tsuwu5260
      @tsuwu5260 Před 6 měsíci +2

      It is instead a crime to release harder contents. Remember, as greedy as people claim Hoyo - specially Genshin devs - to be, the targeted audiences have always been casual who might not pull for everyone. Genshin is not Star Rail where contents get increasingly harder to clear.

  • @giorgostrim3709
    @giorgostrim3709 Před 6 měsíci +20

    Happy new year dude! ( Its not yet the new year but its coming soon) I enjoy your theorycrafting and i always watch your videos before i make a decision to pull or not. I am sad i lost my 50/50 on Neuvi but i am getting him next time he reruns. It makes sense Neuvilette is almost as strong as an archon since he is the water dragon.

  • @ganyumaindayone1112
    @ganyumaindayone1112 Před 6 měsíci +31

    meanwhile they are like "oh no cloud retainer can heal a bit, we must avoid powercreep, quick nerf her to the ground so she is a side grade or worse jean"

    • @mordakie3805
      @mordakie3805 Před 6 měsíci +8

      It sucks but neuvilette messed up future 5 stars

    • @user-783hhss7w2oifhe
      @user-783hhss7w2oifhe Před 6 měsíci +8

      ​​​@@mordakie3805 not really. Hoyo has no problem releasing future 5stars far worse than previous ones. Bruh, they make 5stars worse than their 1.0 4stars lmao

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia Před 6 měsíci +1

      They only seem to worry about balance when releasing a female character, 5 star or otherwise. Gaming in the same patch as cloud retainer is looking better than her even though he's a 4 star.

    • @lastorderx20001
      @lastorderx20001 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@goddamnarshiaand it turns out that you were wrong

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia Před 4 měsíci

      @@lastorderx20001 this was before the particle buff mate. They also removed her anti cc on release and made it a sucrose E style mini grouping.
      But funny you should miss the entire point of the comment being them only worrying about balance when its a female character and laser focusing on CR being above average instead of just average when chiori is in the beta right fucking now

  • @Shadowhunter-bf4dw
    @Shadowhunter-bf4dw Před 6 měsíci +38

    His C1-C3 performance is comparable with C6 5 stars (not quite but similar ranges of 110-160k dps with average investment, anecdotal evidence from YShelper), and super c0 F2P friendly with amber being a great weapon, hp% stats are as valuable as crit dmg in lots of situations, making him easier to build than other dps who want more balanced stats with crit, atk and often em. Ayato might be more flexible in more teams, but neuvi’s damage and self-sustaining potential helps a lot with enemies that deal a ton of damage to you, having that 30-40k hp + a 15-20k heal every charged attack for 3 to 4 times per rotation is just so comfortable. Overall a unit worthy of his dragonhood

    • @phorealthistime6165
      @phorealthistime6165 Před 6 měsíci +2

      So which c6 5 stars is he equal to at c1-3? Cuz sheets rnt everything

    • @SleepingPajamas
      @SleepingPajamas Před 6 měsíci

      ​​@@phorealthistime6165C6 Xiao, C6 Yae Miko, C6 Raiden Shogun, C6 Alhaitham, C6 Nahida, C6 Hu tao (Tao can be better in single target), C6 Childe, C6 Itto, C6 Tighnari, C6 Lyney, C6 Wriothesley (Wrio can be better in single target)
      C6 Ganyu, C6 Yelan (Yelan can be better in single target) Just a few that come to mind

    • @pepelarrza3877
      @pepelarrza3877 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@phorealthistime6165 Keqing and Diluc 😍😍😍

    • @Shadowhunter-bf4dw
      @Shadowhunter-bf4dw Před 6 měsíci

      Saw some yshelper posts from hoyolab, obvs it's very build dependant, esp when it comes to hypercarries since they deal like 95% of team dmg, but anyway, saw a c6r1 yelan 130k, xiao c6r1 140k, 160k scara c6r1 (w/c6 faruzan), 160k ayaka c6r1 (without c6 shenhe), another more well built scara c6r5 with c6 faruzan pushed 200k, and this c0 or c1 hutao I saw had nearly 200k with c3 furina. (If not specially mentioned, characters have their typical best hypercarry teams on standard 20-22s rotations)
      But you're right, sheets aren't everything, for instance, take those 200ks with a grain of salt, people can artificially increase dps by making the rotation super short, but not actually practically long enough for the next rotation (e.g. 16s rotation with hutao and yelan, but yelan cooldown is 18s, and a realistic rotation with errors is around 20s, so 160k in 20s can be pushed to 200k in 16s)
      My c2r1 neuvi with furina c1 kazu and Charlotte does 125k in like a 25s or smth rotation, saw some other c0 and c1 neuvis hitting 100k to 120k with similar teams, but also saw a melt team with xiangling doing 160k with c0 or c1 neuvi, so imma go test and see if that's actually the case, if so, that makes his c1 nearly on par with c6 meta carries
      Note: all numbers are damage per second, once again, very build dependant, hard to compare teams if investment into carries isn't relatively equal.

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Shadowhunter-bf4dw hutao doing 200k + dps is very possible at high investments like
      C1R1 Homa Hutao
      C2R1 Freedom Sworn Kazuha
      C2R1 Elegy Yelan
      C6R1 Mistsplitter Bennett
      She can do 200k per CA x11 + 500k burst and 900k total NA dmg thats already 3.6M dmg and yelan can also do 500k in 1 rotation
      so thats 4.1M in 19s rot since yelan cd is only 18s 4.1M ÷ 19s = 215k dps

  • @sansexe6999
    @sansexe6999 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Happy New Year TGS! Banger vid as usual, hope you have another successful year ahead!!

  • @Tiwarie
    @Tiwarie Před 6 měsíci

    Happy new year! This is my video in 2024 hehe. Thanks for your hard work Mr.TGS, always looking forward to your contents 🎉

  • @dad6666_
    @dad6666_ Před 6 měsíci +1

    Happy new year TGS and thanks for all your awesome videos.

  • @nikumilotic1333
    @nikumilotic1333 Před 6 měsíci +8

    Neviwet is not a hypercarry - zajeff 2023

    • @3.16music
      @3.16music Před 6 měsíci +9

      Neuvillette is substantially normal - jstern25 2023

    • @nikumilotic1333
      @nikumilotic1333 Před 6 měsíci +8

      Neviwet works around his ability to apply hydro - zajeff 2023

    • @vipsviper7203
      @vipsviper7203 Před 6 dny

      He is with furina

  • @vladdyru
    @vladdyru Před 6 měsíci +22

    I hope that the future abyss cycles wouldn't require Neuvillette's power level to fully clear them. Most gachas tend to implement this scummy content powercreep practice eventually, and seeing the constant HP pool increase, I'm really not so sure about Genshin not following it.

    • @kinkane1976
      @kinkane1976 Před 6 měsíci +32

      As TGS mentioned, his dmg isn’t powercreeping the current dmg ceiling. It isn’t a numeric powercreep that would harm the game’s health like in HI3 or HSR to an extent, but the way they designed his kit is much more stacked in terms of utilities than other dps.

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz Před 6 měsíci

      his dmg isnt peak dps its still alhaitham and hutao

    • @santi3256
      @santi3256 Před 6 měsíci +10

      @@kinkane1976 in terms of damage its not a powercreep. But in terms of AOE he is a complete powercreep, he can hit everything at the same time, he has litterally half abyss floor range 360° without damage reduction for hitting multiple enemies.
      And he have the best AOE in the game while also being almost equal to the best teams in the game

    • @kaltsit4539
      @kaltsit4539 Před 6 měsíci +7

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzz You are actually delusional if you think hu tao and alhaitham is a peak dps, Hu tao and alhaitham is FAR from peak dps compared to neuvilette especially hu tao like my god c0 hu tao is so clunky and bad against an actual opponent that isn't a dummy bullet sponge that just stands there and do nothing except stare at you for 10 seconds and then attack a lil bit

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz Před 6 měsíci

      @@kaltsit4539 here's calcs you noobs
      Dps calcs:
      Neuvillette Furina Kazuha Charlotte
      (Insta-CA-Animation-Cancel tech - 3 Draconic Stacks)
      : 48k per hit x 24 + 100k total skill and burst = 1252k + 400k furina 1652k dpr ÷ 20s rot = ( 82k dps )
      Neuvilette Fufina Kazuha Charlotte( 2 Draconic Stacks )
      >Neuv CA 40k x24 + 100k total skill and burst
      = 1060k + 400k = 1460k ÷ 20s rot ( 73k dps )
      Hutao Xingqiu Kazuha Bennett - (8N2C) combo
      : 120k per CA x8 + 200k burst + 264k total NA dmg + 25k blood blossom dmg = 1449k + 400k xinqiu total dmg = 1849 ÷ 20s rot
      ( 92k dps )
      Alhaitham Nahida Furina Kuki
      : Alhaitham 48k(spread) + 27k(no spread) rainswords x 3 x 3 = 675k + 122k total burst + 50k elem skill + 25k plunge + 20k x 5 NA(spread) + 3k x20 NA(no spread) = 1032k + furina 270k total + nahida 180k + kuki 34k x13 hyperblooms = 442k
      > 1032k + 270k + 180k + 442k = 1924k dpr ÷ 20s rot ( 96k dps )
      all r5 - 4 star weaps
      c0 - 5 star chars
      c6 - 4 star chars

  • @theRaika
    @theRaika Před 6 měsíci +28

    His Damage output isn't the Power creep, it's that he can self sustain while doing that damage.
    I think they should have kept his damage output but nerfed his self healing, make it so that his damage comes at a greater cost.
    They did that balance well with Hu Tao and even Wriostheley, but not for Neuvillette.

    • @Avalions
      @Avalions Před 6 měsíci +7

      Most probably it was intentional from hoyo I think, in order to set a new standard for dps going forward. They did the same thing when hu tao came out and was able to self sustain with just a zhongli on her team making the likes of diluc who was the best dps back then obsolete, so not really a surprise there. I Do have to agree with you though, in balancing terms bro is busted.

    • @boringfactor8792
      @boringfactor8792 Před 6 měsíci

      Nah I think it's specifically how busted his aoe is

    • @keku52
      @keku52 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Not only that, but how the fuck did they thought that the best aoe DPS going on par with single target DPS is a good idea? mind boggling balancing decision

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@keku52had to sell this boring gary stu somehow

    • @ralphgnl3232
      @ralphgnl3232 Před 5 měsíci +1

      he called dragon sovereign for nothing.

  • @samibell888
    @samibell888 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I think the Iudex is one of the characters that is powerful in both the lore and the gameplay. off topic: you dropping the F bomb is the hottest thing Ive seen today ...acckkkk, happy holidays

  • @sirdanph445
    @sirdanph445 Před 6 měsíci +4

    The only way they can powercreep this guy is to release a new element which wouldn't happen until Khaenriah.

    • @i_wont_touch_grass8917
      @i_wont_touch_grass8917 Před 4 měsíci

      Neuvillete's damage isn't powercreep, it's that he can self sustaine while doing damage and easy to use

  • @rendition55
    @rendition55 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Maybe all dragon Sovereigns (with their restored authorities) are going to be S tier carries?

    • @betatrix2545
      @betatrix2545 Před 6 měsíci +5

      we dont even know that they will be playable. I think the rest are reborn as vishap dragons

    • @rendition55
      @rendition55 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @betatrix2545 Well, cloud retainer is becoming randomly playable as a human. And all the lore just adds to more and more dragons in the future. I just think it's fun to speculate.

    • @Shiiwata
      @Shiiwata Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@betatrix2545 i'm pretty sure they will be playable. we only have 2 archons left, so they need a new thing to sell to the players, and what is better than the sovereigns? natlan is already said to be the region of dragons, so i wouldn't be surprised if we meet the pyro sovereign next. neuvillette was reborn in a human appearance, but nothing in the game says sovereigns can't take on a human shape on their own if they wish so.

  • @lancehalzen
    @lancehalzen Před 6 měsíci +1

    Happy New Year, everyone! May your pulls be blessed this year.

  • @shaydean713
    @shaydean713 Před 6 měsíci +2

    I was thinking also about the value of supports that can pivot to be on fielders such as Sucrose and Nahida, and their effect on the necessity of having carries on the account and how powerful a carry needs to be worth the upgrade when you look at long term meta and I think Neuvillete maybe the only carry that clearly meets this criteria his only real weakness is he can't normal attack and this weakness maybe become painful if characters like the Hydro, Duo and Beidou, come out in other elements, Say Pyro Xinqui Came out Neuvillete can be dragged back down to earth. Natlan I believe will release characters that have anti-synergy with Neuvillete

  • @silverhawkscape2677
    @silverhawkscape2677 Před 6 měsíci +4

    To powercreep him is to throw so much BS on our way that he needs a Shield.

    • @NetrocMagi
      @NetrocMagi Před 6 měsíci +5

      And C1 negates that too 💀

  • @SlayerFromBeyond
    @SlayerFromBeyond Před 6 měsíci +4

    Give Neuvillette a Prototype Amber and you have a team-wide healer for your Furina team!

  • @prime1773
    @prime1773 Před 6 měsíci +2

    3:15
    I like your Genshin fanart. It looks great

  • @sara_s1737
    @sara_s1737 Před 6 měsíci +5

    I knew he would be special but I thought in-the-story special, not that he would break the game and my account lol
    He was and still is the only C0R1 character I ever solo 36* Abyss with. There are other characters that have high power level, but Neuvillette created a whole new category and whoever says something else is lying to themselves - putting him in the same tier as some broken supports like Nahida and Furina is exactly what I mean by that.
    I don't see him being powercreeped anytime soon. Maybe they will make some characters in the future to match his power level, but that's about it imo.

  • @kingdoom5022
    @kingdoom5022 Před 6 měsíci +8

    Tomorrow abyss is gonna be very bad for neuvellite but of course super easy for tartagila the best hydro DPS

    • @blaze8308
      @blaze8308 Před 6 měsíci +11

      You mean super easy for Xingling 😂

    • @thornszk
      @thornszk Před 6 měsíci +10

      Poor sweet summer Childe, always getting discredited

    • @jcceno4273
      @jcceno4273 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@blaze8308it's 2024, do casuals still think this

    • @blaze8308
      @blaze8308 Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@jcceno4273 Childe's best and only competitive meta team is with Xingling. She is the one who does most of the dmg for average player and in case of Hydro Tulpa in the first half of the current abyss Childe can't do any dmg to that. That's the only thing in the current abyss that Neuvillette can't delete.
      Saying that the current abyss is going to be very bad for Neuvillette and super easy for Tartaglia is pure bullshit as both are hydro characters.
      I used Navia in the 1st half and Neuvillette in the 2nd half and got 36 stars in the first try.

    • @jcceno4273
      @jcceno4273 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@blaze8308 true international Is childe's best team but xl is not carrying Childe, if anything Childe is the one abusing xl coz without him, no one can outmatch xl's fast pyro.

  • @3.16music
    @3.16music Před 6 měsíci +15

    Finally someone said it. I am so tired of some TC saying "Neuv is pretty good/good". Pretty good is insult for him lol

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz Před 6 měsíci +2

      hes a god for skill issued players, otherwise hes just good, he peaks at 73k dps, hutao and alhaitham both have 90k+ dps all in 4 star weaps

    • @TroubleisHere
      @TroubleisHere Před 6 měsíci +6

      ​@@qwertysysysyysysysyzzjust stop, you ain't convincing anyone that hutao is better. She is not 😂

    • @angeloamor4882
      @angeloamor4882 Před 6 měsíci

      Guilty

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz Před 6 měsíci

      @@TroubleisHere here's calcs bozo
      Dps calcs:
      Neuvillette Furina Kazuha Charlotte
      (Insta-CA-Animation-Cancel tech - 3 Draconic Stacks)
      : 48k per hit x 24 + 100k total skill and burst = 1252k + 400k furina 1652k dpr ÷ 20s rot = ( 82k dps )
      Neuvilette Fufina Kazuha Charlotte( 2 Draconic Stacks )
      >Neuv CA 40k x24 + 100k total skill and burst
      = 1060k + 400k = 1460k ÷ 20s rot ( 73k dps )
      Hutao Xingqiu Kazuha Bennett - (8N2C) combo
      : 120k per CA x8 + 200k burst + 264k total NA dmg + 25k blood blossom dmg = 1449k + 400k xinqiu total dmg = 1849 ÷ 20s rot
      ( 92k dps )
      Alhaitham Nahida Furina Kuki
      : Alhaitham 48k(spread) + 27k(no spread) rainswords x 3 x 3 = 675k + 122k total burst + 50k elem skill + 25k plunge + 20k x 5 NA(spread) + 3k x20 NA(no spread) = 1032k + furina 270k total + nahida 180k + kuki 34k x13 hyperblooms = 442k
      > 1032k + 270k + 180k + 442k = 1924k dpr ÷ 20s rot ( 96k dps )
      all r5 - 4 star weaps
      c0 - 5 star chars
      c6 - 4 star chars

    • @oyfum2638
      @oyfum2638 Před 4 měsíci

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzzu always calc assuming 100% crit rate, and bcz Neuv’s signature set mh only gives crit rate u don’t factor this in your calcs.

  • @SuperShinigami3
    @SuperShinigami3 Před 6 měsíci +2

    They’ll probably add more flying and damage in specific areas type of enemies

  • @blaze8308
    @blaze8308 Před 6 měsíci +9

    Glad that I got his C0 R1. 😌
    82k per CA tick at 3 stacks in Neuvillette, Furina, Jean, AP Zhongli team is really broken. Now I need his C1 to do those numbers consistently

    • @SainInaban
      @SainInaban Před 6 měsíci +1

      how can u get 3 stack when you put furina in the team?

    • @ym7402
      @ym7402 Před 6 měsíci +11

      ​@@SainInabanI think its when you make a reaction against a creature that already has an element on them, like a pyro slime and so

    • @ryuzae2284
      @ryuzae2284 Před 6 měsíci

      C1 makes him got free stack when change him to onfield so u only need 2 others element to have fully stack his passive​@@SainInaban

    • @blaze8308
      @blaze8308 Před 6 měsíci

      ​I just applied hydro on Masanori and tanked an electro infused atk using Jean from Masanori and self swirled using her burst. This way I swirled both Hydro and Electro and got the third stack. You can also get 3 stacks in the current abyss floor 12 first half as it has Pyro Lectors. Getting 3 stacks on C0 Neuvillette using double hydro is hard but not impossible.
      @@SainInaban

    • @SainInaban
      @SainInaban Před 6 měsíci

      @@ym7402 ah ic well still its not consistent and on ur will dependent

  • @user-ru4cf4fo1h
    @user-ru4cf4fo1h Před 6 měsíci +6

    Got a c6r1. He was my first c6 character and i pull for him just becouse of his lore :) There is no point in talking about its power, there is simply no content for it. But the saddest thing is that after him, I no longer see any sense in any с6. With the same investments, they will still be worse.

    • @evewhoo
      @evewhoo Před 6 měsíci

      I'm still looking to C6 Klee and Kazuha even though I have Neuv C6R1, and I have Cyno and Yae both at C6. Actually, depending on how her kit turns out, I wouldn't mind Clorinde cons either

  • @KumaBearXV
    @KumaBearXV Před 6 měsíci +3

    Pls use youtube's subtitles if you don't have much time to edit, i like subtitles because i can watch ur videos without disturbing people near me

  • @L17_8
    @L17_8 Před 6 měsíci +8

    To be completely honest, i domt think Neuvillette is a very good addition to this game. Genshin is already pretty easy as it is, so much so that people constantly clear the abyss with characters that arent even considered meta. The reason i say Neuvillette isnt a good addition is because he makes a game which is already so easy now even easier. Once you reach a certain AR and have completed the quests , the game is really boring. Theres really not that much else to do at all but the Daily's and then leave. One of the very few ways left to entertain yourself with this game is by doing the spiral abyss. But Neuvillette makes the abyss so easy that it reaches a point where its not even fun anymore. I know initially there's a thrill about using him seeing how easy he makes everything however over time it'll start to be clear how boring he makes the abyss because its too easy. Things are more fun when there's a challenge but Neuvillette removes the challenge and subsequently takes the fun out of it. And i know a lot of people are gonna disagree because they think hes fun to use and thats fine. Im not saying that he is boring, im saying that what he does to this game is boring. Theres a difference. Not everything is about meta. Genshin is already pretty boring as is when youve finished all the quests so having a character making things so easy to a point it becomes even more boring was not something this game needed. Thats just my opinion anyway

    • @dendenmushi9714
      @dendenmushi9714 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Neuvillette despite being such an overpowered character isn't the 1st instance of such bullshit.
      The number 1 offender is Nilou.
      You can literally pull for her give her free units (barbara-collei-dmc) without even farming shit and watch her clear Floor 12 of abyss like how?
      This the hardest content in the game. How did Hoyo decide to create an unit that shit on that content with 0 investment?
      I've seen people complain about Star Rail difficulty on twitter and comparing to Genshin and how even badly played 4* could clear.
      I realized how frickin shit was Genshin's endgame that this was possible and how frickin shit characters like Nilou, Lyney, Neuv and reaction like Hyperbloom exists in a game that easy and help you clear the frickin endgame without breaking a sweat.
      Frickin modern Pokemon is better and harder.

    • @TroubleisHere
      @TroubleisHere Před 6 měsíci +1

      Not everyone just wants to do the dailies and leave , sure genshin content can be cleared with 4 stars everyone knows that, but why do you think dolphins and whales spend so much money in this game ? Certainly not because is boring to them , we all just have different goals in the game

  • @ImagineCats9339
    @ImagineCats9339 Před 6 měsíci +13

    I don't think neuvillette is that good , he can't even kill hydro slimes

    • @baplox8323
      @baplox8323 Před 6 měsíci +19

      Technically he could with the clam set

    • @ImagineCats9339
      @ImagineCats9339 Před 6 měsíci +19

      @@baplox8323 oh no , there's no stopping him now

    • @lafeechloe6998
      @lafeechloe6998 Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@ImagineCats9339even with skyward atlas or the dragonspine catalyst

  • @serulu3490
    @serulu3490 Před 6 měsíci +5

    There is however the fact that he is a hydro dps, the worst element for shield breaking and the only element that does nothing against 3 different type of shields that are cryo, hydro and some electro shields
    And most of his good teams are focused only on one type of dmg, hydro. Which means not only hydro immune enemies counter him, but also hydro resistant enemies massively reduce his team capabilities, you will see a team like international or hu tao do not really get countered by pyro resistant enemies like the crab boss because half of their dmg is from the other element so they are still played but no one plays ayaka or wanderer against icewind suite
    The next region natlan, will be focused around pyro archon and pyro carries, and just like how they spammed pyro shields for 4 abysses in a row, they will probably spam cryo shields in there as well. Coincidentally the only fontaine enemy that isn't evolved into boss currently is the cryo sea hare, but it might get introduced and be in abyss after neuvillette's rerun in around 4.7
    Basically yes he is one of the strongest if not the strongest character currently but they could still just release enemies that continously counters him in the future, in the end, hoyo designs the meta and no character is truly hard for them to powercreep

    • @I_Don_Like_
      @I_Don_Like_ Před 6 měsíci +6

      But use hydro dps in 2nd half then? It's not like they added pyro shield enemies on both halves tho. Ppl rlly fixate on one half when they forget another half also exists. U r still using dendro in 2nd half.
      They are already adding hydro immune enemies on one half. Same thing can be said for natlan too. Mid natlan they will start adding pyro immune enemies.
      Also one thing I believe is that they are not adding same immune elemt in both halves. Iirc, they never added cryo immune enemies both halves to sell dendro characters.
      Edit: We don't know what hoyo will do. But looking back at trends, they are not gonna add hydro immune enemies on both halves.

    • @serulu3490
      @serulu3490 Před 6 měsíci

      @@I_Don_Like_ they can just add a hydro immune/resistant/shield on one side and a cryo/electro shield on the other, or a cryo shield on one side and an electro shield on the other side, there are a lot of different ways you can do this

    • @I_Don_Like_
      @I_Don_Like_ Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@serulu3490 Then use other teammates to break those shields. Just like during ayaka era, ppl used kokomi to break those pyro shields. It would be nice if they added a pyro teamwide healer for furina. But even without that just use very high ER xiangling. Vapevillette is a very popular team in speedruns.
      I'm very hopeful they'll add a good pyro off fielder in natlan and it may just be pyro archon.

  • @j4nk3n
    @j4nk3n Před 6 měsíci +15

    Its kind of insane how much crit damage you can have on neuv and still have enough crit rate to make a hu tao main jealous 😅

    • @userneverexisted
      @userneverexisted Před 6 měsíci +4

      Hu tao is still better and more flexible then neuvillette

    • @betatrix2545
      @betatrix2545 Před 6 měsíci +25

      @@userneverexisted💀

    • @shkosarhad3991
      @shkosarhad3991 Před 6 měsíci +8

      ​@@userneverexistedlol no and hu tao is borng

    • @boringfactor8792
      @boringfactor8792 Před 6 měsíci +12

      @@shkosarhad3991 neuv is charge attack and stare at enemies, that's infinitely more boring than hu tao

    • @shkosarhad3991
      @shkosarhad3991 Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@boringfactor8792 ok i admit that he gets boring if you use him a lot but in term of flexibility i have to say nuvy is better

  • @sanda888
    @sanda888 Před 6 měsíci +8

    Neuvillette is so satysfying to play. I find him to be the best dps character they've released for the last 2 years. No regrets of giving him C1R1 and C2 Furina.

  • @Kenruli
    @Kenruli Před 6 měsíci +1

    I think lorewise Neuvillette being super powerful is great thing, Of course there will be more powerful characters most likely in the future.

  • @impostorsyndrome1350
    @impostorsyndrome1350 Před 6 měsíci +4

    "Neuvi is impossible to powercreep", and then they release more and more hydro immune/resistant enemies (Hydro Tulpa and the new 4.4 boss aware)

    • @3.16music
      @3.16music Před 6 měsíci +4

      Just take him in the other half

    • @sara_s1737
      @sara_s1737 Před 6 měsíci +8

      To me, that's not powercreep. That's like saying Nahida is bad because they made dendro-immune enemies. Let's say they put the Hydro Tulpa in the Abyss - just put Neuvillette (or any hydro damage dealer) on the other side. Doesn't change the fact Neuvillette is busted.
      To me, powercreep is comparing someone like Childe and Ayato to Neuvillette (and I have all 3 of them build as main DPS and seeing the difference in damage - THAT is definitely powercreep)

    • @impostorsyndrome1350
      @impostorsyndrome1350 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@sara_s1737 Yes, but to nerf him, they can start releasing enemies, that Neuvillette is not that good at dealing with. Similar how with Ayaka they released bosses and you can't freeze

    • @impostorsyndrome1350
      @impostorsyndrome1350 Před 6 měsíci

      @@3.16music What if both hafs have those enemies?

    • @3.16music
      @3.16music Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@impostorsyndrome1350 well, they don’t. Unless they put hydro immune enemies to the both sides, it’s fine. And even if the enemy is hydro resistant, doesn’t really matter. Remember that Alhaitham easily beats chicken, even though it has high resistance to dendro

  • @xanthee_imr
    @xanthee_imr Před 6 měsíci +11

    Great analysis, also based for showing the Furina-Kazuha-Zhongli team (people think you should necessarily bring a healer to make a Neuvi-Furina teams worth it but it’s not true) when talking about potential future upgrades, specifically looking at Zhongli. I kinda hoped that upgrade could be Navia but honestly the timings on the uptime of the various buffs are already so tight for maximum efficiency that you don’t have that much time to go back to Navia’s skill in the middle of your rotation and refreshing the Petra uptime isn’t enough to justify it, but honestly I think this is fair, Neuvillette’s consistency and flexibility is truly scary already to the point that I’m wondering how furthest can they go in the future with other carries? I’m not even sure you can stop him with Tulpa: just play hyperbloom 😂 he would still be great because he’s tanky, doesn’t want Bennett, can regenerate his health in an instant… of course it wouldn’t be ideal but Tulpa will only be in one chamber, you would then have Neuvillette in the other two smashing everything again. He’s truly a beast

    • @chihaotran1568
      @chihaotran1568 Před 6 měsíci +5

      Well only if you have C2 Furina to max out the stacks easily through only Neuvi heal
      If your Furina is C0 that is a DPS loss because you can't max stack consistently

    • @elinamanansi5508
      @elinamanansi5508 Před 6 měsíci

      just get c1 neuvilette bruh

    • @xanthee_imr
      @xanthee_imr Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@chihaotran1568 that’s false. It’s as good as other teams with healers, Neuvillette can get stacks and max them on his own (more slowly of course) and you compensate for the lack of a healer with other assets that provide powerful buffs like Kazuha himself and Zhongli with Petra and his res shred. It’s very powerful. A healer only gives you stacks faster, you can get similar power by building stacks slower and getting other benefits, Neuvillette allows that

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz Před 6 měsíci +1

      change zhongli to fischl, youll get better dmg, zhongli is a waste of slot there kazuha already shreds resistances

    • @chihaotran1568
      @chihaotran1568 Před 6 měsíci

      @@xanthee_imr Lol getting full Furina buff at the start of Neuvilette rotation is better 🥱 that's a fact
      C0 Furina without full Teame heal getting full stacks only at the end of the rotation
      That's why Neuvi, Furina, Kazuha, Baizhu is the top team

  • @SkyWitch
    @SkyWitch Před 6 měsíci +3

    Maybe all playable dragon sovereigns will be good as dps or maybe support or some other thing ? (Good means somewhat better than archons and vision holders)

  • @adeniyimarvellous8259
    @adeniyimarvellous8259 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Well I feel he is just enjoying the 4.0 meta the hydro meta, during the 3.0 meta, we thought alhaitham was the say all and be all for a dps, because he was f2p and had a very powerful reaction, but neuvillette came out and it feels like no one cares about alhaitham or even hyperbloom again, like nobody talks about Nahida anymore instead now everyone is calling her overrated, once we enter the pyro meta, I see neuvillette falling in popularity because hoyo just knows how to make a particular patch favour a set of characters, hydro characters are having their time now, let Neuvillette enjoy, by time hoyo brings a character from natlan that just buffs pyro characters to the roof or they bring a character that doesn’t need to build crit to deal high damage then we would know what is up
    In conclusion, any character can get powercreep by hoyo anytime they feel like, hutao, Ganyu and Ayaka once had a 92% usage rate in the abyss that is the highest any dps has ever reached in abyss usage, now, hutao is just at roughly 30% range, Ayaka interchanging between 25% and 30% and Ganyu doesn’t even exist anymore😂 when they were the top dps it looked like nothing can ever powercreep them
    Neuvillette can get powercreep at anyday anytime there are a lot of ways to powercreep him
    Let’s just wait and watch for hoyo to do their magic, we still have pyro patch ahead of us and the cryo patch maybe melt would become meta no one knows let’s watch out for the future, people would soon start saying he is overrated let’s watch genshin players let’s watch

    • @3.16music
      @3.16music Před 6 měsíci +5

      Again, Neuvillette is powerful not just because he deals damage. Ayala, Ganyu, Hu Tao are good-okay carries, but they can't self sustain like Neuv can. They dont have such a huge AOE
      And who on earth is calling Nahida overrated, there's just no way someone said that 💀

    • @shamsielshahar120
      @shamsielshahar120 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@3.16musiclet's see what miHoYo will do when Natlan comes but judging their history, there would be that character that will powercreep the previous powercreeping character.

    • @NetrocMagi
      @NetrocMagi Před 6 měsíci +2

      ​@@3.16musicfr these people are showing their recency bias lol

    • @I_Don_Like_
      @I_Don_Like_ Před 6 měsíci

      Nobody cares about dendro??? U r literally using dendro in 2nd half. Oh hey, they are adding hydro immune enemies mid fontaine. Same can be said for natlan too. They will add pyro immune mid natlan.
      Alhaitham, hutao are still going strong. I think neuvi will also join this category.
      Also fun fact, based on previous trends, they ain't gonna add hydro immune enemies in both halves lmao. In the dendro era, it was dendro and ayaka. If neuvillette/furina didn't exist, I bet ppl will use ayaka or ganyu. They never just stright up powercreeped cryo. It's just that cryo doesn't have good reactions.
      Ayaka's main problem is that all dmg comes from her burst, if u miss, it's gameover. She also has only one good team and isn't that good against bosses.
      Hutao is also a 3 year old character and she's getting buffed till this day.
      They should've also powercreeped hutao when they released ayaka right?

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz Před 6 měsíci +1

      alhaitham is still peak dendro and peak f2p dps tho
      he does more st dmg( 96k dps with 3 star weap ) than even hutao( 92k dps ) , and got great aoe with his and nahida's spreads (50k+ spreads with 3 star weap)

  • @umehu09
    @umehu09 Před 5 měsíci +4

    as a hu tao main, i raged a bit when you said hu tao was OK? like excuse me, she is a very good dps and can easily do over 100k (not like my hu tao can even do 60k but you get the point)
    anyway no hate but hu tao is best girl, and is the pookie of everyone's life. thank you for listening.
    also this is NOT a hate comment, im just stating my opinion as a hu tao main on the thumbnail

    • @RaikaKoshiba650
      @RaikaKoshiba650 Před 5 měsíci +1

      That’s cool and all, but what the hell is a pookie?

    • @umehu09
      @umehu09 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@RaikaKoshiba650 it's like a way of calling someone you liike or love, idk man, with a pet name like pookie ya know? idk why i call my favorite characters of games and books pookie, even when some of them are more emo than scara and xiao could ever be

    • @RaikaKoshiba650
      @RaikaKoshiba650 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@umehu09 Ah I see, thank you.

    • @umehu09
      @umehu09 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@RaikaKoshiba650 welcome :D

  • @chenchen6150
    @chenchen6150 Před 6 měsíci +1

    The only con Neuvi have are only his ascend mats in mid game content so new player might have to be patience progressing. But once you grind hard and reach Fontaine and can farm his ascend mats plus his bis artifact you can just go hard and don't really worry much future content at that point.
    He basicaly Arjuna Alter his noble phantasm can be boring but for a beserker ult spam buster he is good for general content.

    • @TairaNoKagekiyo-
      @TairaNoKagekiyo- Před 6 měsíci

      Same feeling, like Arjuna Alter his personal DPS is really good on ST and in AoE

  • @webbedshadow2601
    @webbedshadow2601 Před 6 měsíci

    I have my screen brightness down and thought the title said "Nilou" I looked closer to see it read "NEUVILLETTE"...

  • @LazyPillowCase
    @LazyPillowCase Před 6 měsíci +3

    My friend got nuvi and after that doing her abyss was just miles easier than it was before
    Like i could 36 star it no problem now

  • @lmntsgames3848
    @lmntsgames3848 Před 6 měsíci +4

    I keep saying the same since I'm a Neuvillette player.. the guy is busted af.. if I have a strong second team I can easily 36 stars abyss.. but only my Neuvillette and his team has a proper build.. not even maximum potential yet but I can breeze through his phase easily.. only my second team is struggling right now which is Kuki hyperbloom.. still building Kuki's team but Kuki herself is already built but it seems like her damage alone is still struggling so I'm building her other team members to have higher team dps..

    • @mohammedalamer4456
      @mohammedalamer4456 Před 6 měsíci

      If you have Nahida Kuki Shinobu team should be stronger (But should build Nahida with crit supstats you can build Kuki Shinobu with Dendro and Nahida with Gilded dreams)

  • @Scythra
    @Scythra Před 6 měsíci

    2:28 what did you say? hahaha 🤣 great vid!

  • @wayforglory945
    @wayforglory945 Před 6 měsíci +2

    While I'd think that this is the peak of Hydro (which likely won't be) every time a character came out and was on the forefront of the pack was then matched-surpassed in the next region.
    The worst way they can balance Neuvilette would be to give him the Zhongli Shield treatment, and make enemies that specifically play around his strength (imagine enemies that can chase and easily stagger in an Aoe, or high hp bosses that build up resistances based on the highest elemental damage taken in order to force different elements dps's in the team) or have them be immune to hydro (Natlan's heat that drastically lowers the efficacy of Hydro and Snehznaya getting healed by Hydro).
    Worst way, since it basically powercreeps all Hydro characters in general.
    The best way would be to just gradually release stronger base and ceiling dps's, and release supports for older characters while always minding to not benefit Neuvilette (which is what I think they will do and pretty much already done).
    As it is now, Neuvilette is overtuned, his numbers were made big just in fear of being too weak for the "first" Sovereign (if others do come out, they might balance them around Neuvilette, which would be cool but horrifying for balance).
    His Aoe won't mean much if the damage bar gets higher as it has been, especially if the newer dps characters will be made to be appealing to pull.
    He won't be powercrept in Hydro, but he basically doomed Hydro Dps characters.

    • @I_Don_Like_
      @I_Don_Like_ Před 6 měsíci

      1. For zhongli shield treatment, idk. They only added those husks as counter. Usage rate is not the perfect meteic but ppl still use zhongli tho and he's still high on chart.
      2. Ruin variants of sumeru already exists that makes itself resistant based on which element deal more dmg.
      3. They are not going to add hydro immune enemies in both halves lmao. Did they ever add cryo immune enemies in both halves to sell dendro? NO. This hydro era is still using dendro in 2nd half. If we go by your words, dendro would've fallen off meta mid sumeru. Also they'll also add pyro immune enemies in mid natlan too just they're doing in fontaine.
      If we think about hp lock, bond of life exists. 4.1 abyss had those.

    • @wayforglory945
      @wayforglory945 Před 6 měsíci

      @@I_Don_Like_ for 1. it's an example, make an enemy that is pretty obviously built around a mechanic (in this case shielding), another example would be high hp enemies that need their shield broken by heavy attacks (claymore, physical, Geo, overload) to be damaged, kinda like the Geo Slimes but more annoying since you can't directly damage them, as far as I know Neuvilette can't break those type of shields.
      2. Then even better if they released stronger versions of them or a boss version of them, I've never even noticed that they built up resistances, as they died too quickly.
      3. Ofc they shouldn't release more hydro immune enemies, as I said it would be the worst way to handle the problem they made.
      The only problems with dealing with Neuvilette is that his kit revolves around firing a beam that does continuous damage and can be moved freely to achieve high Aoe, meaning that his ST is good but his AoE is by far better. If they up the ante for DPSs they will need to increase the others Dps in a way that doesn't benefit Neuvilette

    • @vipsviper7203
      @vipsviper7203 Před 6 dny

      ​@@wayforglory945bro
      It's been like 9 months since neuvillate release but still he is the best dps right now
      Genshin won't think that much about a character
      He is strong lore wise and also gameplay wise
      In discussion of future dps they will be surely compared to neuvillate

  • @LargeBanana
    @LargeBanana Před 6 měsíci +3

    I have a friend that started playing in his banner.
    Got him as his first dps and felt like every other character is trash. He cannot get excited for any other dps now lol.

    • @i_wont_touch_grass8917
      @i_wont_touch_grass8917 Před 4 měsíci

      Except Childe, Lyney, Hu Tao, Ayaka, Navia and Alhaitham. Damagewise they are on par with Neuvi, or even more. Neuvillete's damage isn't powercreep, it's that he can self sustaine while doing damage and easy to use

    • @ChikyuuKun
      @ChikyuuKun Před 3 měsíci

      @@i_wont_touch_grass8917 I mean sure, but what makes Neuvillette's damage so disgustingly busted is that his damage is continuous and he's like Yelan but on steroids (Even though Yelan has higher HP to damage scaling) with Furina, he just reached a new level of ridiculousness in terms of damage and sustain. If they Pyro archon or sovereign has a better pyro application then he'd be more busted with Vape.

    • @i_wont_touch_grass8917
      @i_wont_touch_grass8917 Před 3 měsíci

      @@ChikyuuKun for starters you are right but I would like to write it again that he is so popular not because of his high damage, it's because of his sustaining capabilities and capability to give his 100% without an elaborate setup. While Childe and Lyney can do higher damage in less time but the do 1 small mistake and you need to do the setup again.
      And we already have a strong Pyro applicator and I.e. Xiangling. Neuvillete only applies hydro thrice, you can check his icd so whether you use Xiangling or a really really strong Pyro applicator, the result will be the same

  • @Droid3455
    @Droid3455 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Tbf I pulled c3 r1 Raiden because I thought her dmg was going to be unmatched for a long time, then my c1 Neuv with a 4* weapon comes and deals more dmg than her entire team lmao

  • @Lukz243
    @Lukz243 Před 6 měsíci

    First off, happy new year
    Second, Neuvi is definitely a force of nature in AoE

  • @owlofficial765
    @owlofficial765 Před 6 měsíci +1

    A character that could probably par on him is another dragon sovereign

  • @musicaddict9058
    @musicaddict9058 Před 6 měsíci +28

    Neuvillette is only balanced by the fact that he is mind numbigly boring to play, so you fall asleep and lose dps. Wish he had more of a variety in his gameplay.

    • @ZZzz...69
      @ZZzz...69 Před 6 měsíci +26

      That's your opinion
      I find him fun to play

    • @pancake3365
      @pancake3365 Před 6 měsíci +6

      Hard disagree but go off

    • @musicaddict9058
      @musicaddict9058 Před 6 měsíci +16

      ​@@ZZzz...69It's okay to be wrong, i forgive you.

    • @Marta1Buck
      @Marta1Buck Před 6 měsíci +3

      After playing him since his release, I got bored of him. Happened to kazuha, yelan, kokomi, and pretty much every character that I played too much with.

    • @lafeechloe6998
      @lafeechloe6998 Před 6 měsíci +4

      You just have to admit that the funniest dps in the game is Ganyu because you have to constantly be aware of everything around you, the best place to fire your arrow, your pyro app, your buffs, your shields HPs… highly technical

  • @georgielol
    @georgielol Před 6 měsíci +4

    Happy new year TGS! I got my Neuvillete to hit for 60k per charged attack tick, which is pretty nice.

    • @walashi882
      @walashi882 Před 6 měsíci +3

      68k here 🤚 with furina it probably will be around 80k

    • @robinsonjoseph9987
      @robinsonjoseph9987 Před 6 měsíci +1

      106k charge attack with furina and kazuha

    • @georgielol
      @georgielol Před 6 měsíci

      @@walashi882 Mine's only c0 and the artifacts are still not amazing.

    • @arconteprimordial
      @arconteprimordial Před 6 měsíci +1

      Mine hit 76k per tic damage. 100 CR, 292 CD and 37,5k HP. He is C1 and Furina C3 + Baizhu and Kazuha.
      But if he uses HP crown can critic 90k per tic, but with only 78 CR missing just 1/5 critics it means lower dps than the 100 CR variant.

    • @georgielol
      @georgielol Před 6 měsíci

      @@arconteprimordial Yeah I don't have anywhere near that much HP on mine. Just really difficult to balance all the stats.

  • @atalkingcat73
    @atalkingcat73 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Don't forget his spin to win tech which turns his AOE into a massive circle.

    • @i_wont_touch_grass8917
      @i_wont_touch_grass8917 Před 4 měsíci

      Depends on the situation and your skills, if you have grouping skills then spin to win is a lose of dps

  • @vm8210
    @vm8210 Před 4 měsíci

    9:19 well by that logic also if we get a cryo applier thats insane( maybe tsaritsa), she also gets buffed

  • @mordakie3805
    @mordakie3805 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Brain dead Gameplay is why he is overpowered …there is very little you have to do gameplay wise to make him OP …unfortunately he’s boring to use anywhere besides the abyss

  • @Daniel-xs1bx
    @Daniel-xs1bx Před 6 měsíci +6

    I thought it would be impossible for a main dps to be better than Alhaitham on c0, I was wrong lol
    First Dan Heng, now Neuvillette, mihoyo really loves dragons

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz Před 6 měsíci

      dps wise? neuv is still weaker than alhaitham and even hutao

    • @voii0777
      @voii0777 Před 6 měsíci +11

      ​@@qwertysysysyysysysyzzCope lmao

    • @KIDASU
      @KIDASU Před 6 měsíci

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzz got any calc or at least video on that...?😅

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz Před 6 měsíci

      @@KIDASU
      Dps calcs:
      Neuvillette Furina Kazuha Charlotte
      (Insta-CA-Animation-Cancel tech - 3 Draconic Stacks)
      : 48k per hit x 24 + 100k total skill and burst = 1252k + 400k furina 1652k dpr ÷ 20s rot = ( 82k dps )
      Neuvilette Fufina Kazuha Charlotte( 2 Draconic Stacks )
      >Neuv CA 40k x24 + 100k total skill and burst
      = 1060k + 400k = 1460k ÷ 20s rot ( 73k dps )
      Hutao Xingqiu Kazuha Bennett - (8N2C) combo
      : 120k per CA x8 + 200k burst + 264k total NA dmg + 25k blood blossom dmg = 1449k + 400k xinqiu total dmg = 1849 ÷ 20s rot
      ( 92k dps )
      Alhaitham Nahida Furina Kuki
      : Alhaitham 48k(spread) + 27k(no spread) rainswords x 3 x 3 = 675k + 122k total burst + 50k elem skill + 25k plunge + 20k x 5 NA(spread) + 3k x20 NA(no spread) = 1032k + furina 270k total + nahida 180k + kuki 34k x13 hyperblooms = 442k
      > 1032k + 270k + 180k + 442k = 1924k dpr ÷ 20s rot ( 96k dps )
      all r5 - 4 star weaps
      c0 - 5 star chars
      c6 - 4 star chars

    • @hazard1one
      @hazard1one Před 6 měsíci

      for e0 dan heng is not the best DPS lol

  • @universalgamer8010
    @universalgamer8010 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Im glad I called how powerful he would be. People called me crazy.
    I knew the moment he was teased it depended on how often he attacks, and if it was a ramp up or set amount. I love him to death, but he is too powerful.

    • @icekyuu
      @icekyuu Před 6 měsíci

      His power is high but I think it's still ok. It's how easy it is to achieve that power that should have been reined in.

  • @coffeeholic8325
    @coffeeholic8325 Před 6 měsíci

    Really happy that with a few spare wishes I had at the time, managed to get the weapon and him, yes the weapon first, was trying to get the hp sword, he is the reason I ain’t crying for not getting furina… not that much…

    • @djampoucheukap1742
      @djampoucheukap1742 Před 6 měsíci

      Dont worry, i dont have her too. And neuvi doesn't even need her to crush everything

  • @bored_potato
    @bored_potato Před 6 měsíci +9

    A kit befitting of the Hydro Dragon Sovereign

  • @moodiiperson7474
    @moodiiperson7474 Před 6 měsíci +6

    I'm so proud I got both him and his weapon on his original banner, and will be trying to get C6 on his rerun. Neuvillette is not only busted, but he's just a beautiful character in general.

  • @jonathan_chillgaming
    @jonathan_chillgaming Před 6 měsíci +1

    as f2p i agree with this, got him and his weapon, save so much time in combat 😊

  • @petermartin6522
    @petermartin6522 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Yep. Ik this. This why I went hard pity to get him lol

  • @PierceLavoy
    @PierceLavoy Před 6 měsíci +5

    That’s why I’m skipping everyone to pull for him on his rerun

  • @nabilanawrinnijhum
    @nabilanawrinnijhum Před 6 měsíci +9

    I went from 33 staring the abyss to 36 stars thanks to this man

    • @seagl4ss
      @seagl4ss Před 6 měsíci +3

      same and i don’t even have him optimally built yet

    • @boringfactor8792
      @boringfactor8792 Před 6 měsíci +12

      He was made for people with skill issue, I can appreciate now everybody being able to get the extra primos

  • @otavionogueira8263
    @otavionogueira8263 Před 6 měsíci

    Which damage calculator are you using at 3:48 I'm searching fora a calcutor that can measure DPS per rotation

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz Před 6 měsíci +1

      thats gcsim , but its so bad at calculating dps anyways just do your own maths

  • @ronnieketchum1241
    @ronnieketchum1241 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Bro is lore accurate

  • @gavy0789
    @gavy0789 Před 6 měsíci +6

    He's too broken

  • @Fam98KK
    @Fam98KK Před 6 měsíci +7

    Happy New Year TGS
    Neuvillete will forever remain one of the strongest
    but as for others: I don't think Alhaitham,Ayaka,Hutao will remain the strongest in their elemental categories forever.
    Capitano,Varka,Alice,Skirk,Dainslief etc etc will be some busted characters in future

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz Před 6 měsíci +1

      neuv literally is still weaker than hutao and alhaitham hes overrated in terms of dmg, hes great once he has his sig weap but before that hes just okay alhaitham and hutao both have a dps of 90k+ in c0 4 star weaps neuv is on 70k something

    • @Shiiwata
      @Shiiwata Před 6 měsíci +3

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzz i think you should watch the video again

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Shiiwata dont need to i can do my own math he is 20k dps lower than alhaitham in their best teams even hutao is 15k-20k dps higher than him in st , if you dont have skill issue that is.

    • @TroubleisHere
      @TroubleisHere Před 6 měsíci +3

      He said "Nevui is weaker than hutao"💀💀

    • @krazyvideos2677
      @krazyvideos2677 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@qwertysysysyysysysyzzdo u even have him?

  • @yahikonightray5398
    @yahikonightray5398 Před 6 měsíci

    Can you make a vid about Furina?..
    Explain her as a support

  • @leonardomeloni69
    @leonardomeloni69 Před 6 měsíci

    Could you make a video about Ga Ming's energy requirements at C4 + Bennett?

  • @kibathefang6022
    @kibathefang6022 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Unfortunate that at this point in the game, DPS is not what attracts me to pulling. Being able to give more to the team, to open new gameplay, and help with keeping boredom has more value at least to me. So that's why I skipped him for Furina.
    So the point of the video that there might be no powercreep for Neuvilette. Well, at the current state of the game, going stronger than this is just overkill. I want a strong unit yes, but if the content is only Floor 12 then what's the point? It's not really hard for a 3 year old account. But if they raised the difficulty then other players would complain. They couldn't even think of just adding Floors 13 and 14. Or maybe require you to bring 3 teams so that your units won't end up collecting dust in the bench.
    I missed the time where I end up playing Abyss for 2 hours just to figure out how to get 36 stars but now 36 stars is just a given. Tomorrow we have a new Abyss cycle. Hopefully more fun than the current one.

  • @ZennikoCallisto12
    @ZennikoCallisto12 Před 6 měsíci +5

    as a wanderer main, im suprised that neuvi c0r1 have the same output as wanderer c6r1, that is insanity

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz Před 6 měsíci +3

      then build your wanderer correctly? c6 wanderer is the best c6 character in the game, even at c2 he already becomes a god character

  • @Zero_Li24
    @Zero_Li24 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Hutao and Ayaka has sunked real deep. But I'm more surprised at how Tartaglia was able to rise again in ranks.

    • @nobrainnogame4320
      @nobrainnogame4320 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Tartaglia took a serious dive the during the last Abyss too despite having a considerably more favorable elemental matchup compared to Hu Tao and Ayaka tho.

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz Před 6 měsíci

      not hutao lol shes still 2nd best st dps only being behind alhaitham qb

    • @TerraTheWise
      @TerraTheWise Před 5 měsíci

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzzThe Alhaitham glazing from you is ungodly. Alhaitham is beaten by tighnari is single target stop the cope 😂

    • @maharat5731
      @maharat5731 Před 5 měsíci

      because he can never be powercrept because of how his kit works. u can powecreep his dmg but u can never powercreep his application and synergy with kazuha xiangling bennett core. also in this video, this guy uses a very bad representation of childe international saying his team dps is below average when the website uses average artifact stats. he's comparing that to fully built teams with good artifacts so obviously the dmg will be less because of the trash artifacts.

  • @hirohero2490
    @hirohero2490 Před 6 měsíci

    Added 2 Tulpa in both floor of Spiral Abyss, Neuvillate:" welp i guess im out"

  • @kahrugiadesu1501
    @kahrugiadesu1501 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Having Neuvilette and haven't even started the video yet, I can safely say, I think Neuvilette isn't solely a powercreep unit towards every meta powerful unit already available in the game, he's just Balanced (in a gameplay sense) his damage isn't all in one drop, unless you vape with his Burst I guess. But his HP scalings, his damage, his ability to self-sustain. I've been led to solely believe he wasn't made to be the best of the best, but just a Strong unit in general. he zuccs his own HP down to a modest half most of the time if you aren't C6, and the only way to do bad on Neuvilette is to actually have a whimsical intent to purposely to die xDDD
    Might not be the most thrilling gameplay, but i'm glad I pulled for him cuz of his character design, then by god it was made better how he was portrayed in the archon quest and story quest, Hands down best voice over is English, the man conveyed emotion so well. cheers to every Neuvilette enjoyer, and every Genshin impact enjoyer, happy new years!

    • @nakanomiku3001
      @nakanomiku3001 Před 6 měsíci +5

      You're wrong then coz theres literally calculations for it, its something that can be proven and his dmg is insane and some people are even forgetting how he can self heal so hes fine solo because of his dps alone

    • @kahrugiadesu1501
      @kahrugiadesu1501 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@nakanomiku3001 Okay what I'm saying is, Hoyo probably just wanted to make him a solid unit, but his gameplay mechanics actually made him more busted than expected, a DPS who can self-sustain and do tons of damage is just too strong a kit. Factoring in outside factors like Furina, Hydro resonance and his steroid passive, his numbers go up to insane heights.

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz Před 6 měsíci

      @@nakanomiku3001 here's calcs that prove he isnt god and almighty bullshit
      Dps calcs:
      Neuvillette Furina Kazuha Charlotte
      (Insta-CA-Animation-Cancel tech - 3 Draconic Stacks)
      : 48k per hit x 24 + 100k total skill and burst = 1252k + 400k furina 1652k dpr ÷ 20s rot = ( 82k dps )
      Neuvilette Fufina Kazuha Charlotte( 2 Draconic Stacks )
      >Neuv CA 40k x24 + 100k total skill and burst
      = 1060k + 400k = 1460k ÷ 20s rot ( 73k dps )
      Hutao Xingqiu Kazuha Bennett - (8N2C) combo
      : 120k per CA x8 + 200k burst + 264k total NA dmg + 25k blood blossom dmg = 1449k + 400k xinqiu total dmg = 1849 ÷ 20s rot
      ( 92k dps )
      Alhaitham Nahida Furina Kuki
      : Alhaitham 48k(spread) + 27k(no spread) rainswords x 3 x 3 = 675k + 122k total burst + 50k elem skill + 25k plunge + 20k x 5 NA(spread) + 3k x20 NA(no spread) = 1032k + furina 270k total + nahida 180k + kuki 34k x13 hyperblooms = 442k
      > 1032k + 270k + 180k + 442k = 1924k dpr ÷ 20s rot ( 96k dps )
      all r5 - 4 star weaps
      c0 - 5 star chars
      c6 - 4 star chars

  • @brain_dude
    @brain_dude Před 6 měsíci +8

    anyone remember when we imagined that no character ever will be near good to ayaka speedruns 💀

    • @wantu7816
      @wantu7816 Před 6 měsíci +2

      It took a dragon sovereign to finally get her down

    • @brain_dude
      @brain_dude Před 6 měsíci

      @@wantu7816 he only took her down in mobbing chambers with the spin tech so she still top 1

    • @amer2142
      @amer2142 Před 5 měsíci

      i mean she's still at the top, but god damn i like my spin to win neuvillette because of how goofy it looks

  • @manday2267
    @manday2267 Před 6 měsíci +2

    The only team who can power creep him is the Pyro Dragon, with the Pyro Archon, Furina, and Bennett. Or maybe after the release of Capitano. Trust.

    • @I_Don_Like_
      @I_Don_Like_ Před 6 měsíci

      Or just use both dragons in both halves lol.
      Yes plz release pyro dragon so I can use them both.

  • @nilkilnilkil
    @nilkilnilkil Před 6 měsíci

    Where is the tier list at the end from ???

  • @thornszk
    @thornszk Před 6 měsíci +3

    His lore made people ok with powercreep.

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia Před 6 měsíci +1

      Which is such a cope excuse for bad balancing. They literally sabotaged an archon and every single character in fotnaine to shill a literal who boring lore wank

    • @aperson6562
      @aperson6562 Před 6 měsíci

      ⁠@@goddamnarshiawhy are you so sad that he’s strong? I’ve seen your comments and you just seem so pressed on pushing this agenda that hes boring. People find different things fun,and that’s okay. Besides, as long as the abyss isn’t designed around him, powercreep means very little

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@aperson6562 sorry did me having an opinion offend you ?

    • @aperson6562
      @aperson6562 Před 6 měsíci

      @@goddamnarshia not sure what makes you think that. Besides, if youre free to post an opinion on the internet, people are free to react to it.

    • @goddamnarshia
      @goddamnarshia Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@aperson6562 you didn't really react to my opinion, you reacted to me having one in the first place. Not everyone is supposed to join the echo chamber mate , im not "pushing an agenda" when i call a boring character boring.