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Eula gets her own category for physical, #1 in our hearts
(1) in my heart for Eula is so funny and so true.
Based!!!
#1 Eula
#2 Freminet
#3 Razor
@@lalafinnonomiya808 how could you do my boy razor so dirty
@@zanzatbcI mean, he is already dirty and probably stinky too
Timestamps:
1:36 - Best Anemo
3:00 - Best Geo
4:54 - Best Electro
7:36 - Best Dendro
10:20 - Best Hydro
13:26 - Best Pyro
15:41 - Best Cryo
Thanks
faruzan over venti is insane especially since she NEEDS constellations to not feel like dead weight and even then shes only mostly used with two characters (wanderer and xiao) whereas venti works perfectly at c0 and can be used on any elemental team
Fair take
That take alone made the whole video shittier
The better take this list was wack. And I knew it the second venti wasn't on list
also Faruzan is kinda niche, since she is mostly used for only anemo
On field Faruzan > Venti. All Venti does is make the easiest content easier
I think that when Venti works, he's the best character in the game since he trivialise it so much
exactly
Hoyo had to actively change the game after releasing Venti, he could trivialize all the hard content that they had to modify enemies going forward to not be Venti’d
Hoyo takes into account Venti’s existence every update to make sure he never breaks the game again
@@boshlovely2002I mean it’s basically every archon in the game. Venti and Zongli has already been countered, Raiden is (used to be) countered by electro oceanid, that WolfLord geo bullshit… tho Nahida… well It is still her era so we don’t know for sure how they’ll counter Nahida.
Venti=Trivialize Multi Wave content
Zhongli=Trivialize Damage
Raiden= Trivialize combat effeciency(energy) The only counter they had for her was to make mechanics that limit her or straight up electro immune bosses. Now she has hyperbloom so doesn’t matter anymore
@@banir3736 Maybe they will add enemy that absorb dendro to get stronger and they immune to dendro dmg as fountaine boss in near future (then add it to abyss). Who know lol
it's true
copiumm
At this point for new players, 4*s feel as difficult to get as 5*s
4* have always been harder to get , just the fact that there’s no pity for 4 *
Agreed. Eventhough ive been playing for almost a year already but my fischl still at C0 😢
@@SeySeyHSR my kingdom for a Xingqiu
@@crownedking_cj8890 yeah, but all the good 4*s were in the game from the beginning, except Kuki. Every 4* they add dilutes the pool and makes it harder to get the good ones.
You get one free Xingqiu per year, it's not that hard
I think your comment about XQ vs Yelan being not a worthwhile debate is a really important point. Both of them are incredible, synergize with each other, and having both expands your account options. They're just insane units.
altho for milk production only yelan can do it properly YUCK XQ's "milk"
@@nightmarerex2035bro what 😭😭
@@nightmarerex2035bro played genshin on p*rnhub
Xingqui is just better in Quickbloom teams, He has more hydro application, much longer burst and quicker casting. Lastly the most OP thing about him is his 70% Interrupt resistance and 50% damage reduction even higher than most melee characters(50%) with the exception of Raiden with 100% interrupt resist. The problem with Yelan damage bonus is that it takes a while for it to appear.
@@Thekomokoroxq might be stronger but lets be honest whos more fun
putting kuki above fischl is wild ngl
Ong. Just because she can enable hyperbloom does not make her better. Fischl can Aggravate, taser, last unit in Hyperbloom, overvape comps, spread. Like she's so good.
I think they are close but Fischl is just a bit better. I have both of them c6 and Kuki relies WAY more on cons than Fischl
Ummmm, no, you cannot put Faruzan above Venti. Although she does have great buffing potential, this only matters for two characters. Venti is great in multiple teams and in multiple situations.
Yun Jin did not deserve that spot. The bar for Geo is so low that their best character is mid at best. You could have easily chose any Geo unit that isn't Ninguang or Yun Jin.
Fischl is better then both Kuki and Raiden because she is the only character in the game that can make Aggravate properly work. She has the best Electro aolication making her great for unconventional shield breaking with Electro AND she's a great battery. The other two can be so easily replaced if we get another consistent AoE Electro aplicatior.
Xingqiu is better than Yelan. Yes she deals more damage, but that doesn't really matter since Hydro aplication is what matters here. Damage is something that can easily be replaced, but the amount of elemental aolication has never been powercrept so far. Yelan cannot work as well in a lot of teams in which Xingqiu would be able to function perfectly well. Also if Hydro aplication didn't matter people wouldn't be playing double Hydro.
Also, Nilou vs Childe. Nilou is easily countered. You put a Cryo shield, she can't do anything. Childe has never been countered so far and their AoE damage is about the same. He should have the third spot.
@@kawaiimika7974 agreed with everything but the xinqui yelan point. She in facts does equally in some teams and better on in some than xinqui like yoimiya vape and alhaitham and cyno hyperbloom. She does equally as good in national because of her personal damage and her buffing raidens damage. The only team she does significantly worse is his hu Tao vape because she can’t make Hu tao vape her charge attacks. And people don’t play double hydro because of the hydro application. They play it because xinqui and yelan is just simply a very strong duo altogether
@@joeltoomer3332 She is better with Yoimiya, but that's Yoimiya. She gets carried by off fielders anyways and it doesn't matter which one is on her team really.
With Al Haitham she is better yes.
Cyno, don't think so. Xingqiu allows you to not run a shielder and his uptime works better with Cyno. And if you don't run a shielder you can run Kuki who will provide Hyperbloom damage when Cyno is off field and Electro resonance + her own energy generation.
She can work with Hu Tao but barely, and there is no point to running her alone when double Hydro is just better.
True, that is the reason why double Hydro is good. But so is Fischl Xingqiu combo that I have been running for a long time.
Also she is significantly worse than him in teams that need a lot of Hydro aplication like Burgeon, or in teams that need slight AoE Hydro aplication like Freeze.
@@kawaiimika7974 I wouldn't say she really better for Al Haitham. Like i love Al Haitham and i love playing him. But everytime i use Al Haitham without interruption resistance i cry a bit. Like is it better in Speedruns? Yeah, but do we look at Speedruns? No, not really.
When does this more damage actually matter? Will Yelan be the difference between a 2* or 3* compared to Xingiqu? I think in a lot of scenarios not. So how important is this more damage actually? Is it a *big + point* or just a small difference? And if we look at the other stuff Yelan doesn't have. What is a bigger loss?
@@joe_simon Oh really, interesting. For Cyno I definitely noticed the interuption resistance but with Al Haitham I didn't notice it as much.
Also, you are so right for that last statement. Bravo 👏👏👏👏👏
I would actually put Venti over Faruzan because I find Venti more useful than Faruzan ever could aside from the wanderer team where I can also fit Venti for the insane grouping sometimes
Fair take tbh
Yeah, tbh I don’t wanna call Faruzan whale bait, but she is incredibly energy hungry. Almost to the point where a minimum of 200 er is required. I would go as far as to say that it is almost uncomfortable to use her at C0 at all which most people have her. Venti with f2p investment will provide most early stage genshin players a lot more value.
@@jalynhorne9371me with 294 ER and Fav on Faruzan and it’s still not enough to get burst on cooldown with Wanderer team 🥲
I agree. Venti is more useful in teams than Faruzan. Venti should be the 3rd spot for Anemo.
yeahz and as a wanderer main, i dont even use her
unpopular opinion: my top 3 best hydro characters are
1-Xingqiu
2-Childe
3-Kokomi
Nilou bloom is f2p and it's really good
@@rheysama international be like
@@rheysamabut very niche since her passive restricts her in bloom only.
@@Rapiers-and-flowers her element doesnt change she is still hydro..who does hydro damage easily great for single target and aoe
I have a feeling Neuvillette and especially Furina are going to shake up the hydro meta a lot (personally I’m hoping Furina becomes the clear best hydro in the game like how Nahida is the best dendro)
It’ll be pretty difficult to dethrone units such as yelan, xingqiu, childe, and kokomi
@@harrison8639
Furina is the archon, there’s no way she’s going to be worse than a 4 star from 1.0 and regular 5 stars without much lore importance like Kokomi and Yelan
@@harrison8639 Venti use to be a Meta till 2.0...
Now he doesn't even comes in top 3 anemo units anymore, which explains alot how meta changes ridiculously.
As per the leaks which we got on Furina's kit, I can say her kit is extremely strong to provide off field hydro damage and AoE application, along with elemental damage boost and healings.
I can clearly see her kit more aggressive than Xingqiu.
So believe it or not, Furina will be better.
But for Neuvillette, naah... his kit is underwhelming.
@@Hmm_okk_loli feel like neuvillette (atm at least) wouldn’t be as underwhelming as u think, it’s just that he’s a character that fulfills a role that others already fill (on-field hydro enabler), his numbers, however are far superior compared to ayato and Childe with higher dmg ceilings against all the hydro rosters overall, and tbh I assume furina and him will work well tgt so that may lead to new comp possibilities.
@@raidenbeelzubub yeah but neither Childe nor Ayato rely purely on their numbers for their best teams;
Childe in national becomes ridiculous for the AoE Hydro coverage as well as how quickly riptide scales with 3 or more enemies around.
Ayato has an absurd amount of Hydro application and a lot of versatility that even doing bad rotations doesn't mess with his performance.
Neuvillete on the other hand has a lot of front loaded Hydro DMG with decent AoE and range and that's pretty much it, his application is nothing too impressive, he most surely will need a defensive option like Zhongli for on fielding (which is hilarious for lore implications lol).
He's a bit too DMG focused for an element that's pure technical and multi functional.
Thoma even getting a mention is incredible. just goes to show how much dendro saved this character. nobody does burgeon like him
I didn't really like yelan for a long time bc xq felt so good but i pulled for yelan. And boyy she feels so good especially with tons of ER her ult hits so hard with ult being available each rotation
She's way better imo
@@Alhaitham195I wouldn’t say she’s “way” better. She’s better in some cases and xinqui is better in some cases
@joeltoomer3332 Mine xingqiu is c0 for almost 7 months. And yelan is a way stronger than xingqiu. The only issue with yelan is slightly worse hydro application which isn't noticeable because i run both in nahida hyperbloom team
@@joeltoomer3332 She's way better. Period
@@Alhaitham195 well I disagree. You run her with hu Yao as the solo hydro and hu Tao won’t get to vape so no
I still find it perplexing that it's been a year since Yelan came out & people still compare her to Xingqiu when TCs have already done the test & presented the info on both their strengths & weaknesses. Not to mention that you can only really compare the two of them because Yelan is the only one who is able to compete with Xingqiu due to how similar her kit is.
At the end of the day, you either run them both together to make up Double Hydro or just run each of them as Hydro off-fielders on both sides of the Abyss.
So I've been playing Genshin for 10 months now and something I've come to observe with the meta players in particular is the community has a really bad "confirmation bias" issue. And what I mean is people are constantly looking for validation that the character they dedicated time and/or money into is not only "meta" but better value than the characters they choose not to. So you see these constant debates between Hutao/Yoimiya/Lyney, Childe/Ayato, Ganyu/Ayaka, Xiao/Wanderer.
And I also can't help but feel some TCs inadvertently fueled the flames by being dismissive or discouraging people from pulling on banners because "______ is all you really need anyway."
And yeah I feel like people really need to get pass that fixation.
@@crimsonECH1DNA that applies with the ultra casual/waifu pullers too.
Some of them would go as far as to straight up hate anything meta related without even trying it out or learning why they are considered meta in the first place as long as some says "play what you like it's not a hard game"
Kokomi deserved to be in the top 3 :(( she can be useful in way more teams
She is better than Nilou sure.
Well I think every hydro 5 stars are better pull than Nilou because they work in every abyss and she is the only one who can't be play in every abyss cycle.
I mean Tartaglia have international, but he work everytime.
Ayato can be put in every team and he will be fine.
Nilou need Kokomi but Kokomi can be play in others teams like freeze when Nilou doesn't work.
@@Camelia437 I love nilou but mine has pretty much been benched, i just think kokomi is way more versatile, she has everything. Dmg, tankiness, healing. Can be used in dendro teams (LIKE EVEN NILOU WANTS KOKOMI IN HER TEAM TO FUNCTION), freeze, tazer, sukokomon etc. So yh exactly as you said.
@@Camelia437 VERY good take!
@@Camelia437nilous Dendro niche makers her an over all better unit to have than Kokomi.. kokomi can get replaced easily by Barbra, Yao Yao or Bennett …she has great hydro application but the again so does nilou and xing…nilous damage ceiling is higher with Dendro and can be used well in vape teams..over all Kokomi is great but not needed
@@mordakie3805I agree kokomi Is overrated and note that I was like one of the only 3 people that even dared to say kokomi is good back when she first came out.
I think Childe deserves the 3rd spot. This is because how broken international is on top of his quadratic scaling.
Although Childe's best team is International, this doesn't mean that he can't be played out of that team. Hence, Childe's could be used in many other teams that need hydro.
Childe's is also pretty f2p friendly as xl, benny and sucrose works really well as his teammates.
There is no abyss where Childe international won't work.
He also gets points for being consistently meta. He has never fallen out of meta, even now with Neuvillette I would still argue international is one of the best teams
This was a nice video but I feel that Faruzan isn’t better than Venti most of the time because…
1. She is a constellation dependent character
2. She is extremely energy hungry
3. She has a lot less supporting capabilities compared to Venti
I think the cryo top 3 is the most interesting discussion.
Ganyu: best all purpose damage, great damage dealer, decent sub dps, most applicable of the cryo 5 stars
Ayaka: best damage dealer, will clear content quicker than her peers
Shenhe: best for cryo in general
Rosaria: most flexible and easiest to get lots of damage with
Diona: can be useful in the most teams
To be honest i think if Rosaria was a 5 star, she'd easily be the best cryo character in the game. Not only is she useful in all sorts of cryo teams (melt/freeze/physical) she also does something any element can benefit from: crit rate buff.
I think the thing with Ganyu is that she is the ayato of cryo, she is not the best anything
She isnt the best freeze dps
She isnt the best cryo support
She isnt the best melt dps
But she can still do all 3 things easily, so you get 3 roles in one character
I HATE ganyu but she really is pretty versatile
Most cryo characters are fairly solid. While Layla, Chongyun, and Mika aren't groundbreaking they all have a special role. Layla is a very good sheilder, especially for a four star. Chongyun and Mika both provide something unique, which makes them interesting. Goes to show a character doesn't have to be meta to be useful
C6 Xingqiu having better hydro application than C0 Yelan is important to note. C6 Xingqiu can be solo hydro in Hu Tao teams, while C0 Yelan can't do it consistently.
Its because Xingqiu is a 4 star so his value is instantly better. The fact you don't need to pull for Yelan and can get a different 5 star bring inherently more value to your account.
its a common misconception in community that yelan cant make hu tao vape every hit, its been known fot years now that she CAN do it, but no one seems to know about it, jello and flip said it tho i think.
but yea he IS better than yelan in majority of teams
@@blastzdyeah I was gonna comment this. Hu tao can vape with yelan but I do disagree, yelan is better than xingqui in most teams now. In all hyperbloom teams yelan is usually better. In cyno quickbloom she is better, in alhaitham hyperbloom she is better.
@@putent9623 in hyperbloom teams, xingqiu is a must cuz of his hydro app, yelan is better with yoi, cyno, alhaitham etc. altho one of them is only great lol
@@Laurboy97 imo 5*'s are more valuable because in the end they become stronger with cons and up until that point, even if they aren't, you are closer to getting to the point where they are than if you built the 4*'s first.
Yun Jin is a gem! I love her buffs and it saves me from playing circle impact 😌
What is circle impact?
basically when you have to stand inside a characters burst (like bennett) @@flowsky7339
Playing at circular buffs (Bennett buff, nahida buff, rosaria's burst, dendro mc burst and etc) where you need to make use of limited area to have buffs.
She's garbage since she's so slow and geo.
@@ashab4444as Yunjin? 🤨
Jello is certainly one of the best genshin content creators and his videos are so helpful, that’s why he broke my heart when he placed Nilou above Tartaglia.
Childe is to hydro what hu Tao is to pyro. It’s such an amazing unit and his skill cap pushes you to play better and understand the game more.
Just like the comparison between lyney and Hu Tao, the comparison between Nilou and Tartaglia should go to my ginger shneznayan friend because he’s a lot less limited in his options. Also international is goat.
I don't know why but Childe is a bit of an underdog. He works well on a lot of teams, and if you want to build him for his burst that can hit crazy hard too
I can guarantee you this guy has never played Childe nor International. He just parrots what the other Ytbers and reddit says.
@@IDontWantHandlesWTF to be fair almost all the hydro characters are mid to absolutey amazing so I can’t really blame his choice
@@newgate-zerohour yeah the guy doesn’t get enough recognition. He’s so good and his burst is one of the reasons he’s a core unit in most speedrunning comps.
@@joeltoomer3332 agreed. Hydro is such a good element that it’s hard to pick the best units. But I still believe Nilou is… I don’t want to say overrated, but some of her limitations as a unit are disregarded because of her team’s insane damage potential.
I was glad that you finally mentioned Dendro Traveler at the end of the Dendro section. Since I started playing in April, Dendro Traveler has been my main, with Xiangling and Barbara helping carry me through all the hard stuff.
Itto is underrated as hell. With my geo team he does on average 40k damage every hit.
Everyone saying that Itto is mid has either never played him or plays him wrong.
Hyperbloom hits for 68k per tick so meh, like wanderer also hits 40k per NA, xiao can also do 100k per plunge, xiangling can do 60k per vape, so itto really is not that impressive.
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz are we playing the same game?…
@@VeliaOwO i assume we do since these numbers are quite possible especially xiangling's and hyperbloom
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz absolutely bull. No hyperbloom hits that hard even with 1000 ‘em without nahida c2 so try again.
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzzyeah but hyperbloom is very easy to build and caps out itto with a good support team can out damage hyper bloom it’s just that it’s mono geo and geo is the most neglected element in the game rn 💀
Wait, you mentioned anemo, but didn't mention Venti? The dude is absolutely broken whenever he works. And he has alot of situations nowadays where he works.
You said it "when he works"
When he doesn't all the other top Anemos leave him behind by quite a long margin since they don't have that work/don't work problem.
@@Sickness4daThickness but since faruzan is on top 3, that means the niches arent being ignored
and in venti's niche, he absolutely dominates
@@arturpaez7006yeah, its like lets value Nilou on her best scenario But Childe as a general hydro and not the best on field hydro applicator when the other two were already off field hydros. I mean i get his point But its completely bias. The spread valoration was out of the way too, if you dont count burgeon for single target you shouldn't count spread as aoe too
@@arturpaez7006 that's a good point tbh
I think the reasoning behind her places was the same as Rosaria over Ganyu in cryo characters
And I said that considering Sucrose is pretty much as broken as Kazuha hence making her closer to a five star than a four star.
"whenever he works" the ventiable content was not in the abyss since forever, or at least it wasnt consistent AT ALL
Fun fact I discovered is that Gan Yu is pretty good companion for Ayaka. Not only she adds some damage, but also buff Ayaka in multiple ways: by adding 20% cryo damage bonus, acting as a battery for her, and boosting crit rate by enabling cryo resonance. True, all of that could be done better by Shen He, but getting yet another 5* cryo character when you already have Gan Yu and Ayaka is questionable.
You are right !
I'm using Ayaka + Ganyu until Cryo archon replace her role as sub dps/support.
Id still say pull for Shenhe because Ganyu on her own is a very good dps and that gives you a good team for abyss. Plus Shenhe is just Shenhe.
14:05 I really want them to add the pyro version of Yelan, so we can have a Bennett on each side of the abyss
Pyro Version of Xingqui or Yelan wouldn't work unless they have double the Pyro application Xingqui has since Hydro consumes 2U of Pyro. Unless they have good damage multipliers the character would just be useless
@@Konomidebanshouwashikisesur I didn’t mean as in being as good an applicator as them. I mean that I want a 5* that is to Bennett as Yelan is to Xingqiu.
@@MegaMrASD oh my bad.
You forgot Albedo, best and consistent Geo off field DPS. 2nd best Geo char. Other Geo can battle their assses out for the 3rd best.
The bar for Geo is too low. It doesn't matter who the last character was, all of them are mid
@@kawaiimika7974Wow this comment is definitely not pointless!
It's not like the original comment never said Geo was good or better than other elements, or even that the characters belonging to the element are above average!
Eh, the top 3 is consistent.
Top 1 is Gorou, as Geo is literally completely useless and the characters have no synergy at all without him
Top 2 is Itto, as you can play Albedo-less Gorou, but not Geo HC-less Gorou
And top 3 is Albedo, especially since a ton of people don't have Cinnabar Spindle.
Noelle is fine, deserves top 4.
And Zhongli, Yunjin and Ningguang can go fuck off. Sad characters all around.
Hopefully Navia doesn't disappoint..?
For me
Top 1 definitely itto best DPS and has one of the best c6 in the game
Top 2 zhongli the best Shielder
Top 3 Albedo and gorou perfect supports for Noelle, itto and Ningguang.
Everyone else I didn't mention are niche.
@@Rapiers-and-flowers we are not talking about c6 and DPS capab. It's the overall util of a C6 4 star and C0 5 star (most relatable)
Albedo as sub dps should be mentioned for Geo instead of Yun Jins, cause standart attack buffing is pretty niche
Pretty niche is an understatement.
Only is good for 3 characters, 2 of which don't even want her and favor other characters.
So yeah, working for LITERALLY ONE CHARACTER and not even being much better than Bennett or Yelan definitely puts her far, far, FAR below Albedo.
The increase is so minimal to the point that even if you play Yoimiya, it's not worth raising her since you'll literally never ever use her in any other team.
@@oliviaaargh as a Yoi main who tried her but didn't enjoyed her a lot, agree. I run Yoimiya with Yelan, Fischl and Zhongli now and it has become my favourite team. I could use my bennett, but i kinda don't wanna kick any of these other units
@@rostschweifvomchaosclan
For me its Bennet Xinqui Yelan and Yoimiya . Why Fischl? Hmmm
@@chaosinfernoid9008Bennett probably taken up in other team and fischl is great for overvape
@@rostschweifvomchaosclan It's fine, as long as you can clear, any team is fine. Especially since you can leave your Bennett free.
I really don't think niche supports like Gorou or Faruzan should rank higher than the dps they buff. Because, play the dps without their support, and yeah, they might not be the best, but is still functional. But play the support without the dps and it's just dead weight.
it's a fair take but i'd rather run Noelle with Gorou rather than Itto without gorou , from the calcs and footage i've seen and opinions of theorycrafters and others. so that's why i put gorou above. but that's a fair take too
Ever tried dps Faruzan? She has fairly large multipliers. At C4, her ER requirements for an on-field playstyle drops significantly, and can basically solo abyss chambers. At C6, her off-field damage is pretty significant that you can run her with Golden Troupe with an ER/Atk/Crit build.
@@denki2558 @denki2558 I am familiar with DPS Faruzan, and I know she can reach good numbers (I don't know about soloing a floor 12 chamber tho) but is she really better than a Wanderer or a Xiao in terms of dps? I don't think so.
@@JelloImpactnah, itto is much better than noelle. Specially in aoe where he can use venti and actually hit enemies on the air. Funny enough, furina may actually be a massive buff for him too. Not only can he face tank stuff provided you got a strong enough healer while also having knockback immunity but he also have very little dmg% in his kit, wep or supports. Her buff will be almost pure for him on top of her rather good personal dmg
Well, I see where he's coming from(outside yunjin, no way she is better than itto. She's whatever). Gorou and faruzan are pretty much obligatory for their element dps. A xiao or wanderer without faruzan feels like ass and its the same for itto or noelle. They may be niche but... geo is more or less its own thing outside zhongly god mode
Mannnn, no wonder Jello never puts in Itto, he’s never played him. He’s so fun to play, the epitome of Unga bunga, when invested
That's what I was thinking. The Unga Bunga mode is pretty good, and if you have enough energy recharge, you basically get to burst right after bursting if you take the time to swap characters to rebuff.
well he only plays female characters, as you can clearly tell, so he never will play itto
I'm excited to try!
Ya, itto is very nice. Pretty versatile too thanks to venti
Been a subscriber for a while and I must say I'm impressed by all new video ideas. When I think there can't be that much more to talk about something new come around and make me interested immediately.
i'd honestly just put Yelan and Xingqiu on shared 1st
Truly the only two characters where you can say Yelan is a five star Xingqiu and visa versa. If you got one you can really put off pulling for the other until you got all your other roles rounded out. Imo
edit: maybe just cope because I lost my 50/50
Yeah, same for Sucrose and Kazuha.
@@deannaburke4242 I wouldn't call Yelan a "5 star Xingqiu" because that implies that she is better, and I wouldn't call Xingqiu a "4 star Yelan" because that implies that he is worse.
I think they both have a similar kit, in the sense that they both apply Hydro from off-field triggered by Normal Attacks, but they have pros and cons compared to each other.
Yelan has higher damage and the ability to buff;
Xingqiu has Damage reduction, Interruption resistance, and better Hydro application.
Similar, but different.
Yelan is better. At low and medium investment they are equal. At high investment Yelan wins by a longshot. So overall she takes a slight win.
@@Elrog3 here comes the toxic Yelan simp. At low investment Xingqui is better because hydro application. At mid investment they're equal since Yelan does slightly more damage than a C6 Xingqui but Xingqui gives more hydro application. And at high investment (C2+) Yelan is better because her hydro application becomes better and she provides significantly more damage. Characters like Hu tao can't function without Xingqui. Hyperbloom needs more hydro application. More hydro application=more seeds=more damage.
i personally dont agree with nilou, i think childe, ayato, kokomi or mona edge her out in being able to run without relying on dendro, they are one of the best utility hydro in the game, they can be in freeze, taser and many other things. i think this flexibility is what makes them more valuable
Nilous niche Dendro passive and her hydro application makes her more versatile ..she works in dendro, vape and freeze …but that dendro passive makes her valuable
@@mordakie3805 i think you’re confused with what “versatile” means. nilou is niche, which means she is not versatile. you are better off using other Hydro characters than her in freeze, electrocharge, hyperbloom or vape teams. nilou is only good in pure bloom teams. You can use her in non-bloom teams but that’s basically a meme.
@@cyronmastriano7089 disagree i use her in vape, freeze teams....her dendro passive makes her unique not just niche ..she's best with dendro her damage cieling is higher than kokomi with her best teams..
@@mordakie3805 and nilou is mid at best if used outside bloom teams. anyone can work if you make them. heck you can even make Amber a hyper DPS if you really want to. Doesn’t necessarily mean it’s practical or optimal. but hey, if you wanna make a horse swim in a river instead of run on land, you do you.
Also, damage output is not the only valid category here. there’s utility, flexibility, versatility, driver function, defense function, team support, elemental application, role consolidation. It’s not always about DPS damage. teams aren’t made of 4 DPS characters.
kokomi beats nilou in terms of universality in different teams. sure you can use Nilou is non-bloom teams, but that is wasting a large portion of her kit. it’s like using Xiao without his plunge attacks or Zhongli without his shield. but hey, if you want to run using your knees, knock yourself out.
@@cyronmastriano7089Nilou vape team loses only to Childe😂
I don't think that this tier list is going be one that Zajef77 will be mad about. Good takes and reasoning IMO. Although I would have put Kokomi above Nilou in terms of versatility and defensive utility. Nilou is just much less flexible and you kinda get less bang for your buck since Bloom is the only playstyle that uses the most of her kit, but Kokomi just has more ways to play her.
You never know. He does like Xingqiu's shorts a lot.
It’s jello’s subjective (less objective) listing of the top 3. he personally likes Nilou a lot (i can tell), so i can see how favoritism influenced his top 3. there’s just no way that a very niche restrictive character like Nilou (albeit strong) can out-value the versatility and flexibility and role consolidations of Kokomi. sure, in bloom teams, Nilou is great. but in all other teams, Kokomi is more valuable by a long mile.
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I could definitely see an argument for why Nilou has a more powerful kit than Kokomi, because there’s a very real chance that Furina will powercreep Kokomi whereas no other character will ever be able to take Nilou’s role
@@Elrog3who doesnt love twinks?
You are really on a roll with your content 💪 love your channel
putting faruzan over venti is kinda dumb imo cause faruzan can only be used by 2 not that great on field carries, xiao and wanderer, while venti can be slotted in for any team in place of kazuha or sucrose. saying "but venti needs multiple targest so he's niche" is also stupid, because faruzan is literally worse than zhongli, bennett or xingqiu/yelan for anemo carries if you don't have c6. so she's just as niche
"Lyney more restrictive"
Nilou:
Irony 😢
The bias is showing and it needs to go
Hutao:
Lmao, he doesn't know what he's saying 😂
Lyney: Mono pyro team(Characters list: Xiangling, Bennett, Zhongli, Dehya, Kazuha, list finished, other characters aren't option)
Nilou: Bloom(Characters list: Barbara, Kokomi, XQ, Yelan, Ayato, Neuvillette, Candace, Yaoyao, Kirara, Nahida, Baizhu, Kaveh, Haitham, Furina(future), Collei, DMC, Childe, Mona, Tighnari - EVERY option is strong)
This is why Lyney is niche. He has 5 playable supports
Nilou can play with entire hydro/dendro roster. Do you see the difference here?😂😂😂
Yelan&Xq should be on the same spot (No one is higher or lower), they're literally the same character. Just the matter of playstyle u want. If u need defensive utility go for xq and go to yelan if u wanna go offensive... or just play both together, they're straight up the best duo in the game.
Also i would've placed fischl above every other electro character. She enables yae, keqing, cyno, raiden in aggravate team, being a great off field sub dps and battery, also she can be a flex character in other team comps (Yoi/Hu Tao overvape, taser, even wanderer/xiao hypercarry). She is just like yelan/xq but electro. And yea seeing how strong hyperbloom reaction is, i understand why people placed raiden and kuki above her. But fischl still the best electro character imo.
Add the fact that Fischl is also an amazing addition to HB teams because she doesn't really steal the seeds but deals really good damage from off field.
Best =/= cheapest. No way is c6 Xingqiu competing with c6 Yelan. They should be in the same spot at low investment. But overall, meaning considering high investment as well, Yelan wins. She ties him in one category and wins the other.
And Fischl above Raiden is insane.
@@Elrog3 Ofc yelan is better at higher investment since she's a 5 star. It's never a fair idea to compare a c6 5 star with c6 4 star, that's why most people put a handicap on 5 star being c0 compared to c6 4 star bcz c6 5 star character (damage wise) will always be better than c6 4 star not even close. So my opinion above was considering c0 yelan and c6 xq with no vertical investment.
While raiden and fischl still debatable whose stronger, but i personally feel fischl is more flexible as a unit, her fast electro application combined with her personal damage make up for that. While raiden is less flexible than fischl in some team comps, but her personal dmg is high enough that makes her shine in most team comps that she's in. And they're both have an excellent battery capability, while raiden is slightly better but fischl is not that far behind. I think they're pretty close.
@@nathannael8722 I guess the difference is you are trying to rank pull value while I would be ranking strength. And Jello.. did some weird in between lol.
Childe also very f2p friendly imo. He only needs two very f2p characters like bennett and XL. For anemo u can also use sucrose. So imo, childe and nilou are in the same tier.
niluo needs less investment imo
but childe overall feels better to play
@@yahiax needs less investment= nahida + kokomi + signature weapon nice
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz Dmc + barbara is alr enough
nahida is the only real extra investment here@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz
by that logic childe needs kazuha, a 5 star weapon and a very well invested xiangling
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My list:
Anemo:
1. Sucrose
2. Kazuha
3. Venti
Geo:
1. Zhongli
2. Itto
3. Albedo
Electro:
1. Fischl
2. Raiden
3. Beidou
Dendro:
1. Nahida
2. Al-haitham
3. Yao-yao
Hydro:
1. Xingqiu
2. Yelan
3. Childe/ Ayato/ Kokomi/ Neuv probably, any of those
Pyro:
1. Bennet
2. Xiangling
3. Lyney/ HuTao
Cryo:
1. Ayaka
2. Shenhe
3. Rosaria / balls
I know this is your list but I think baizhu would be the top 3, still yao yao is pretty much enough already unless you deal with those consecrated beast
@@traninhminh-eric9117 I'd say they're comparable. I just prefer yao yao more than him because her burst heals so much it's laughable. When I'm dealing with AOE situation I almost always go with yao yao, single target with baizhu. So yeah you can make a case for both of them at 3rd.
@@eimanhaqim918 Valid point you make there!
Way better. Tho Gorou should objectively somehow be sloted into the list under Geo, BUT THIS IS WAY BETTER
I like Nilou and she enables one of the strongest teams out there but I think Kokomi takes the third spot, her flexibility, personal damage, multiple coverage of crucial roles that you’d want from your hydro unit makes it for me. I mean sure Nilou has tons of aoe dmg but before the dendro healers Kokomi was the one enabling Nilou
I love Nilou. i have her. Her team is super strong. but Nilou is very niche. Works her best only with dendro and hydro teams. Sure you can use her outside dendro/hydro teams, but that’s wasting her potential.
I agree that Kokomi should be the 3rd for Hydro. Kokomi offers more coverage of roles than Nilou.
it's a fair take but I value power over versatility
@@JelloImpact Versatility is power. Kokomi is useful in any iteration of the Abyss. Nilou is not. Kokomi enables more team variations than Nilou can.
If you really value power, which it seems you’re damage-centric, then Yae Miko should replace Kuki. Yunjin should replace Itto. HuTao should take over Bennett’s rank. Ganyu should take over Shenhe’s rank. Tighnari should replace Baizhu.
@@JelloImpact Hehe me too! But in this case, Kokomi does it for me! Although our opinions are both valid :p
@@cyronmastriano7089Nilou was never bad in any abyss. If you talk about 3.5 and 3.7 then it's just skill issue.
This list is based on POWER LEVEL mostly, with a shoutout to F2P. Lots are arguing for flexibility which is a fair criteria, but not something I considered for this list of “the strongest of each type”. I’ll be more clear on my assumptions in the future. also i do agree itto above yun jin probably makes more sense
While I was shocked you chose Nilou over Tartaglia, I do believe you’re entitled to your own opinion and almost anything in this game is debatable, and it’s something we do out of love for the game.
It’s part of the reason we all spend so much time reading and writing comments on it.
I really like your videos
But i didn't get one thing why ganyu is on the 3rd spot most of the people compete her with ayaka for the first place so it was a little surprising for me to see her on the 3rd place (i am just curious i don't have ayaka, shenha and ganyu)
@@hamnanadeem1007 i think ganyu is good but not as good as the other two that's all
*Kokomi should be the 3rd spot for Hyrdro.* Nilou was a “huh? really?” choice. Don’t get me wrong, I love Nilou. I have her. Her teams are strong. And you’re allowed to form your own opinion. But Nilou is very niche and restrictive. She works her most optimal best with dendro/hydro teams. Sure, you can use her outside dendro/hydro teams, but that’s wasting a big portion of her potential. It’s like using Xiao without his plunge attacks or Zhongli without his shield. Where is Nilou the best in slot for teams outside dendro/hydro teams? i’d say Kokomi would be the better option in those non-dendro/hydro teams than Nilou.
Kokomi should be the 3rd spot for Hydro imo. She offers more coverage of roles/functions than Nilou. Kokomi provides more versatility and flexibility than Nilou in various teams.
While I know it’s your opinion, i just can’t wrap around in my head how a niche character like Nilou is more valuable/useful than a very versatile/flexible character like Kokomi.
@@froeloe i replied to your personal comment already haha. Kokomi is flexible but not that strong (she is strong, but not as strong as others). her best team is nilou team and ayaka team, but she's arguably the least necessary part of both of those teams. Or at least she's not one of the top 2 characters of either. So no, I don't think she's better than nilou by a long shot.
But if you value flexibility over power than sure.
I'd swap Nilou for Childe, he's acc more flexible and Dendro was just an add on to his excellency, you were taking that under consideration for other categories. For Geo while I see your thought process on Yunjin, I don't think the NA buffer niche is working in favor of Top 3 over Albedo, she couldve realistically been any other element and retain the viability but Albedo absolutely dominates off field dmg for Geo which is in desperate spot atp. Finally, C6 Faruzan is unarguably less F2P friendly over a fully functional C0 Xiao who's been holding that fort for years now, shes "up" there but def not over Xiao or even Venti
Childe only feels great in vape, if we're talking about flexibility then Ayato is the clear winner: hyperbloom, burgeon, superbloom, electro-charged, freeze, vape, hypercarry.
@@Radi340idk Taser Childe is really fun and strong to me(no offense to Ayato tho he's better than my husband but still)
I never had any difficulties when I use Childe outside of International
@@Radi340Childe works in Taser , hyperbloom and burgeon perfectly fine , I have tried them all and perfectly viable for clearing abyss with these teams .
@@ivymondal9663 Of course he does but playing Childe in those comps waiting for his CD is a pain. His CD problem isn't much of an issue in vape because you spend his off field time funneling energy to Xianling but in non-burst reliant/quick comps he practically has you waiting to start a rotation again which is a DPS loss.
What I was trying to say was that he isn't an optimal pick in a hyperbloom team compared to Ayato. If you're going to use Childe in those comps then you might as well use Barbara or Mona because he doesn't have much value outside vape.
it's a fair take
Great work as always Jello! As for me who doesn't like the elements, as long as Eula is the best phys option, I will just sit and eat popcorn here.
People pretending that yelan>xingqiu is a hot take, when literally many many people think that yelan replaces xingqiu no question asked. That being said i still thunk xq is better and jello had a l take there.
the biggest L of the video is that he was thinking xiangling could be pushed off the s tier into a?!?!!
OPPA? OPPA? OPPA?
2:37 man’s crazy. Faruzan??? Over Venti??? Faruzan requires c6 and is a niche support to two specific DPSes. Mihoyo had to buff EM AND extremely reduce large wave enemy content to nerf Venti hard enough for Kazuha to stand out.
3:40 strong agree Gorou pulls Geo to a slay from a struggle 4:00 STRONGGGG AGREE IM IN LOVE WITH YUNJIN SHES SO VALUABLE
5:33 yeah electro doesn’t leave u room to disagree in regards to Kuki Fischl and Raiden being the strongest. Miko isn’t good enough to make up the utility Kuki and Fischl have
7:44 yeah for real Nahida is a huge slay 9:02 YESSS I LOVE YAOYAO Yaoyao is what made me in love with Dendro and Hyperbloom
11:31 lol okay honestly I’m fine w ur bias that’s rly funny 12:42 Nilou isn’t a clear choice but she functions, sure. I prefer Kokomi here but it’s fine
13:36 yeah even if you hate Bennett you don’t even have room to fight it… 14:12 I hope Yoimiya is on here if ur putting XL on here. XL requires a lot of work but I prefer Hu Tao putting in over XL 15:46 I’m actually fine that Lyney is being brought into convo if u put Hu Tao
16:42 yesssss recognize Shenhe and Ayaka!!! I hope Wriothesley powercreeps Rosaria tho
Wrio won't power creep Rosaria. They both fufill different roles- he is DPS, she is support/sub-dps. I would still say Rosie might be slightly more valuable in terms of versatility but he's cracky too 😅
great video as usual. I was wondering if you can make a follow up vid showing the best builds for your top 3 or 4 characters. I think having those builds in one video will be beneficial to everyone. thanks in advance.
Very nice to see somebody not just parroting Zajef and having his own opinions. Also I agree with Yelan > XQ
Hyperbloom is so busted it's pretty much gotten me through every spiral abyss iteration to date.
Side A: Ayato, Nahida, Kuki, Kazuha
Side B: Alhaitham, Yelan, Yaoyao, Raiden
(Can sub Xingqiu for Yelan for better survivability)
kazuha works even where he isnt intended
@@Pingpong009 qiqi also works as the 4th slot in a hyperbloom team, its nothing special
@@majo6944 but does she inc dmg ?
@@Pingpong009 no but neither does kazuha? at least not by much since he cant make use of his full potential in hyperbloom
@@Pingpong009 i mean, clam Qiqi does deal alright damage for a healer while keeping your team basically immortal.
She legit could be better than Kazuha, as Kazu can steal hyperblooms (and his EM generally in ballpark of 800-900, while electro trigger’s EM in ballpark of 1000-1200 or it’s equivalent with 800-900 EM + FoPL buff) which is a small dps loss, while buffing hydro unit isn’t that impactfull cause their damage contribution isn’t that high compared to hyperbloom damage.
Like, if you need grouping, Kazuha still provides value to the team, but otherwise he’s rather subpar option, maybe unless your hydro is like C2R1+ with insane 250+ CV investment where i can see the argument for Kazu being okay.
The only thing I disagree with is yunjin placement. Itto is undeniably the best geo dps in the game and probably some of the most consistent dps as well. Yunjin is incredibly niche and only works with a few characters while you can slap mono geo with itto in abyss 90% of the times and clear abyss
you said it yourself, itto needs mono geo. and by that i don't think you mean free geo characters like MC or noelle lol
@@elina1421 sure but yunjin only works with like three characters. While itto is just simply the best geo dps we have right which is think he’s deserves a spot for
@@joeltoomer3332 she's still more impactful on those 3 teams than itto in the entire genshin meta lmfao
@@joeltoomer3332 She works with Yoimiya only. Every other team with her is copuim
@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz She really isn't. You can replace her with any other off fielder and you'll get a better results. Her buff is trash, Bennett would give you the same amount AND allow some of your off field characters ti snapshot
Best dendro character unarguably is the gigachad himself, Yuguei
Right now, it's safe to say that Neuvillette is among the top Hydro units with self-sustenance thanks to his skill and burst(no need f9r healer, he can heal himself), his charge attack multipliers and flexibility among many teams even as a hypercarry.
And you know who else is going to take the top spot? Yep, it's Furina.
I prefer Tartaglia
Definitely disagree with Faruzan as 3rd best anemo. Has to be Venti. Also think Albedo should've been in the top 3 Geo over Yun Jin. Also think Childe should take the 3rd Hydro slot over Nilou, but I think it's close. Agreed with the rest. :)
Faruzan over venti ? I digress.
C6 Faruzan>Venti
Venti>C5 and under Faruzan
@@-Theo- No, Faruzan isn't going to perfectly group enemies for you Ayaka, Ganyu, Yae, Keqing, Wanderer, Rosaria, Raiden and whoever there is left
@@kawaiimika7974
Well, if Kazuha didn’t exist, I would agree, but he does so Venti loses a lot of value sadly
@theo6146 no, because Faruzan isn't as good at grouping as Venti, and realistically she's not as useful when there isn't an anemo dps.
Faruzan is practically useless without her c6 and her er issues are so terrible. Venti and Kazuha are still better all the way
The archons being the best of their respective element sounds right.. poor venti..
I feel Venti should've edged out Faruzan, because Faruzan is pretty useless when not with an Anemo DPS, but Venti will always be able to delete many domains with his burst alone. Not to mention, every abyss has at least one floor with Ventiable enemies, and he's not exactly useless when they can't be sucked up, he's just slightly worse than Kazuha in that case.
Honestly, C6 Fischl beats C0 Raiden unless you’re specifically playing on-field Raiden. The off-field constant DPS from Fischl is kinda insane.
@@Kaiji... one has to assume the same amount of resources are put into both characters to determine which is better lmao you need an c6 to compete with a c0
@@Kaiji...If ur talking bout hyper bloom
Raiden is put on top because her skill have unlimited range in hyper bloom which is more preferred
Yes fishal is better in single Target but in AOE raiden skill proc more time resulting in more hyperbloom meaning more damage. Yes outdamaging the extra damage Oz(not fishal) have over raiden E skill
And in non hyper bloom team well she's uncontested!
Not everyone is gonna play hyperbloom so yeah!! She's usually the best.
Zhongli is the best Geo character because every character including him is mid. If we were to get ANY Geo character that provided meaningful buffs or damage he would be out
Raiden is not the best Electro, Fischl is
Nahida is the best Dendro
And Venti would be the best Anemo character but because Kazuha allows you to push your character's damage to their ceiling he is considered the best Anemo character.
did you seriously put gorou above albedo for geo!? gorou is good in like 1 team and even then he's nothing without teammates
Faruzan and Gorou are kind of a weird take in my opinion. A character that buffs a specific (mono) team will only work with those teams.
Faruzan has pretty much 2 carries she'll work with. Venti will work in a lot of teams (if he works) and I'm also partial to Jean, who is pretty versatile (best cleanse by swirling off the element, insane burst heal and her own damage shouldn't be neglected either).
Gorou is pretty much a dead slot outside of mono geo. Both Itto as the reason mono Geo is even a thing and Albedo as a really strong low maintenance off-fielder are better.
For Shenhe it would be similar, but Cryo's aren't really playable outside of Freeze or mono Cryo. The Cryo roster doesn't offer enough to be used with other elements. Consistent forward melting is pretty much impossible, Superconduct and Cristalize aren't relevant and Dendro won't react, leaving only Swirl and Freeze as relevant reactions. Although I might put Ganyu over Shenhe.
I totally can see your point. if characters that specifically buff an element are that strong, then Sara & Mika should have made the tops too.
Thank you for the video this was on my mind for a long time .
And thanks to the YT algorithm for reading my mind 🥲
On Xq vs Yelan. It’s not just defensive utility.
Xingqiu has higher hydro application, including some minor AoE from orbitals. If we compare C6 Xingqiu (which is pretty obtainable due to him being in the shop and given at Lantern’s Rite) with C0-C1 Yelan he applies SIGNIFICANTLY more hydro. Like, almost 1/3 more hydro.
Which is huge in national and especially in hyperbloom and burgeon.
Facts. It’s undeniable that short shorts can lay down some water. Imho, Xq water application, Yelan is power with less non burst water application
I have c6 Xq & c2 Yelan. So I’m super qualified to comment lol
Xq burst with orbitals at c6 is 24*1 +6*1 so 30. Yelan is 15, 16 if you weave in an e, 24 at c2 with an e
Also something which is overlooked is xq has 15 hydro res shread, and that his dmg mitigation wirks in conjunction with defensive options
Why is that relevant? It lets you run 4inst on your def unit.... Talking of sets, Yelans bu*f is overrated because XQ can also run 4Nobless without losing significant personal dmg, not true for yelan though... Then there is the sapwood blade arguement for dendro teams.
C6 XQ vs c0 yelan shouldn't be a debate post dendro. Pre dendro yeah......after 3. 0 she just doesn't compare
The extra hydro app is kinda overrated imo. For example lets take hyperbloom. U have nahida + kuki + hydro + flex. For the flex slot unless ur meming,its always going to be another dendro unit in which case the team turn into a quickbloom / a electro unit which would also make a it a quickbloom team or another hydro unit. In quickbloom, yelan is better than xq cuz the on field carries like haitham and cyno can take advantage of yelans a4 and yelan has higher personal dmg. Yelans lower hydro app dosnt matter much in these teams cuz it will lead to more quicken uptime. If u use another hydro unit in the flex slot,u would be meeting the core icd very often so who u use between xq or yelan for the other hydro slot wont really matter since ur generating 2 hyperblooms every kuki ring proc. So in that case,yelan would be better cuz she has higher personal dmg than xq and units like ayato can take advantage of yelans a4 as well.
For national variants,if ur on fielding sucrose then yelans lower app wont be much of a problem cuz swirls apply hydro as well. For rational,u miss a few xl vapes but u get yelans a4 for raiden and higher personal dmg especially since u can vape yelans skill with sime rotations so the difference is almost negligible.
The only comps where xqs extra hydro app really matters is in hutao(mainly in solo hydro comps but double hydro comps are just better than any solo hydro comp for her so its not even a relevant scenario), nilou bloom (2h+2d versions)and Tfurry. Thats pretty much all the comps i can think off the top of my head that really needs Xq instead of yelan. Otherwise,the application rate dosnt really matter much.
@@deltaspecies1697application matters a lot LIKE A LOT in national teams. Her buff is absolutely overrated. It's not a flat 50% damage bonus it's over time so your Raiden burst won't even be getting the maximum amount of damage bonus and Less Xiangling vapes= insane damage loss. Xingqui will always be better for National teams and it's not even close I'm sorry. Hyperbloom and Quickenbloom are two different things. For example Al Haitham quicken bloom means running solo hydro Yelan which is cancer for energy issues and needs a minimum of 220% er atleast which takes away a lot of her damage since you want to run er sands with her. Sure Al Haitham spreads more but it's not that much more than a standard Al Haitham hyperbloom which uses Xingqui. His damage won't be much less than Yelan in Quickenbloom and more seeds generated=more damage which makes the two teams significantly close in terms of damage. Obviously if your Yelan is C2 or even C1 then it's different since she doesn't have to run er sands anymore and will make the team a decent amount better. Yelan is of course is better in some cases like Yoimiya teams and Bloom teams.
I get that this is opinion based but dont ever make a tier list without knowing knowledge about every character😅😅😅 cause it shows a lot about your character knowledge.
I do tons of research into every character :) but I will definitely build and test them all as soon as they rerun and I get the resources for it~
Someone who does justice to Rosaria 😭
Yay! Her melt team is very very nice for any AoE content.
I like her over ganyu..she is my go to cryo unit
I just started to play a few days ago and Kuki was my first pull! I love her a lot, she is my current main!
I plan on saveing my pulls for when Shenhe will be available, I don't know how she plays, but I saw her trailer and got obsessed with her design!
Shenhe is a great cryo support that generally wants a lot of attack. You could run her as a DPS if you really wanted to, or you could pull for a cryo DPS and then Shenhe. I'm pretty sure Shenhe will receive a rerun around lantern rite (January sm) so good luck!
Charged Attacking on Lyney isn't annoying at all if you run him with any shielder or Interruption resistance of some sort. Also Yun Jin sneaked her way in there like there's no way she's above Albedo.
Real, not to mention all of Lyney's talents can do huge DMG. I'd say while Yun jin can be better in some situations, she's too niche to be ranked that high. I'd honestly put Itto instead, he's an absolute beast when you invest in him
I was so convinced you were going to add Childe as your number 3 for hydro I completely forgot about Nilou. lol
The only time a buffer should ever be considered for top three units in their class is when they take their niche to such an extent that is not niche anymore. Examples of this are Bennett and Nillou. They make the things that they buff so ridiculously strong, that it doesn't need to be called the niche anymore. Faruzan, yunjin, and Shenhe shouldn't even really be considered for this. They lack versatility too severely, to be considered best in class. Especially Shenhe and Yunjin, their Hit quotas make them essentially unusable in AOE
fr like putting faruzan over venti is crazy 😭 it’s not like xiao and wanderer is unusable without her and she depends sm on constellations
If we talk about F2P then Faruzan has no right to be in top 3, without c6 she is useless and we all know how hard it can be to win a specific 4 star especially when the character can't be purchased in paimon's barging. I only got Faruzan only 2 times at the banner and i invested 60 wishes
Nahida and Raiden are the best for my account because they open up a lot of team compositions
Here's my take on Anemo (Keep in mind this is just a discussion. Anybody is welcome to participate. Let's pleas keep it civil as Jello said ;))
I don't agree with Venti *Not being in the top 3...* Some may argue that he is "niche" because he only really works when there is "Venti-able content" but...
Jello did put Faruzan in there, so he 100% considers niche scenarios.
So it's not like you have to discount Venti because there are scenarios where he isn't as good...
Take Faruzan on her own... she's useless. A Case could even be made where Faruzan isn't even "Worth" playing before C6.
(She can still work, but it's a hassle, and the Keyword is *"Work."* You have to put everything into ER%, so she does no damage. The Team DPS will be higher by simply swapping her out for an off-field DPS like Xingqiu/Fischl/Xiangling/Etc..
When Faruzan is C6 though, now she is very worth playing, and still only good in *one scenario.* You can' really get any more niche than that.)
She's basically only good if you have a niche team which is *"Anemo Hyper Carry DPS"* like Xiao/Wanderer/C6KazuhaDPS, and is outclassed in terms of overall team damage by any off-field DPS unit before she is at C6...
But on the other hand, Take Venti on his own, and he is great, and can also work on a multitude of different Teams.
Definitely much more versatile and useful compared to Faruzan who is *dependant on Constellations + Specific teammates* to have any value at all.
Venti is also very F2P friendly because he does not require much investment in terms of build, and functions extremely well at C0 in all kinds of scenarios. (C0 is all you will ever need).
Faruzan, on the other hand, is not so F2P friendly because she requires Constellations to be competitive and be worth using instead of any off-field dps, and also has very high build requirements before C6 + only useful in one niche scenario.
Those are some reasons why I think Venti should have made the cut.
It's more about utility than niche.
Sucrose and Kazuha work no matter what; they provide EM/DMG buffs, they group juuuust enough for you to work around that and they straight up don't lose against bosses or non venti-able content, their AoE infusion allows certain team comps to work in the first place and overall they are really flexible, while Venti is hyperfocused on the "group them all no matter what" role.
Not to say he's bad by any means, he pretty much carried Anemo till we got the buff and better understanding of the mechanics.
Think of it this way, would you rather have 2 reliable swiss knifes or 1 damascus steel blade for your everyday needs? Surely one excels in sharpness and durability but at the end of the day you'd probably need some of the tools the knives provide you more often.
As for Faruzan especially I guess it comes more to the fact she does that same type of small grouping with her charged attacks and thus can be a really good starting point which gets progressively better with constellations and ends up in someone that can bump up any Anemo carry.
More like a good early investment if you're into Xiao/Wanderer compared to the others (?
@@Sickness4daThicknesseh, i’m not convinced. Venti > Faruzan
I would argue Fischl is the best electro given how she's often times the premier electro unit in Taser, Soup, Salad, and Overvape teams. And even in teams where she isn't the best in like Rational, Hu Tao double hydro, etc. she isn't really THAT far behind
She is the second best electro character in my opinion too. Raiden is still better imo because is the best hyperbloom trigger and her national team varient is the second strongest varient of the team and can be played in any team Which Fischl can be played in albeit much worse in some cases like taser and aggravate. But Fischl is still one of the best characters in the game for sure
@@Konomidebanshouwashikisesurwhat's her strongest team? Hypercarry?
@@vandergrift5557 Hyperbloom at C0 and Hypercarry at C2
He should've waited a little longer, Neuvillette and Furina changed the Hydro meta
also, sucrose allows for very fun and surprisingly useful teams, filling roles kazuha wouldn't be much use. per example, sukokomon, burst/bunny amber teams, traditional taser, sucrose national and more. not to mention that she's a catalyst user, allowing for more support weapons like ttds! i know kazuha is comfy and easy to use, but i would never trade the absolute chaos sucrose brings to the table when you learn how to use her
I was gonna say her taser teams are fun as hell
How ironic:
You started the video showing Freminet, and said you'd pick the 3 best characters of *Every Single Type*, yet you didn't elaborate on the Physical Type at all :/.
What happened to “Pull who you like is bad advice” from one of your other videos, now your basically saying pull whoever you like
Im from day 1, but im happy i find CC doing this kind of videos to help newcomers
truly blessed that Thoma's name was even mentioned. he's seriously one of the most underrated units in the whole game
Venti, Sucrose, Kazuha
Zhongli, Noelle, Yun Jin
Fischl, Kuki, Keqing
Nahida, Al Haitham, no one really
Yelan, Childe, Kokomi
Bennett, Yoimiya, Hu Tao
Ganyu, Shenhe, Diona
And those are facts. Xiangling is the most over rated unit ever, requiring 3 slaves just to do basic fonctions. When I see someone clear F12 with solo Xiangling the way they do with Ganyu, Hu Tao, Childe or Eula, I'll admit I was wrong all this time .
This is truly one of the comments of all time
I agree with this list mainly bc there's no ayaka on here
Gorou definitely needs constellations. As a Noelle player, I use her in a team with Albedo, Yun Jin and Fischl, and replacing any one of these characters with C1 Gorou leads to lower damage. The only time I put him on the team is vs Bosses, who destroy Albedo's Flower just by looking at it funny.
Personally, I'd put Albedo as number 2 Geo Unit
I would also put Childe over Nilou
Call me biased but it is what it is
Yeah I agree because nilou is restricted to bloom team, while childe can be played in national, hyperbloom or hyper fridge
But Nilou is brain dead easy ❤
This guy is also biased because he has never played Childe. He got him just this rerun in 4.0. Meanwhile he has had Nilou for a while and very clearly skews towards her playstyle if you've seen his previous videos.
@@IDontWantHandlesWTFidk both Childe and Nilou have a potent team, with nilou being easier to pull off than childes national rotation. It’s a tough call
@@kazukimisaki2312 national is his only good team. No one plays him in hyperbloom or hyper fridge
Ganyu I think is the best cryo character just because she can do a little bit of everything and she’s very flexible (at least for anything with cryo)
She isn't the best at anything but she's good at a great number of things
Finally more creators acknowledging Nilou's power, her spot is so deserved!!
And I argue child is better than nilue because she only has one team that team is f2p friendly and easy to build but you have no other choice childe has so many options and any kind of abyss easy with him you just need to know what you are doing
I would Argue Beidou should be slotted better than Kuki. Kuki's only saving grace is Hyperbloom which can be replace by Raiden while Beidou has a shield to mitigate damage and AoE damage. She became underrated so hard nowadays
People already commented about Venti so its good but Childe is also in the BEST AOE TEAM which is International which is by far the hardest one to counter in abyss and he can be slot in as on fielder if you really want
Her damage is bad, her energy generation is bad, her er requirements is too high, she has no real battery unlike xiangling, she is burst reliant, her shield breaks in 1 hit, and tazer teams died the moment dendro arrived.
My top 3 Dendro Characters would be:
Nahida, Alhaitham, DendroMC
I fully agree with Electro, Pyro, Cryo and Hydro. No opinion on Geo,
For Anemo I disagree, I believe Venti is #3
It was cope of me to think Chongyun or Kaeya would be mentioned lol. I do think Venti edges out Faruzan, since Sucrose was the F2P pick (not that Faruzan is F2P friendly). You can literally just use your burst to delete domains. Abyss is dependent on what enemies are there, but there will always be at least one floor with Ventiable enemies. Also, overworld traversability wasn't mentioned, but Venti and Kazuha are both good for the overworld. Also, Faruzan just isn't as good at grouping, and you realistically aren't using her when you don't have an anemo dps. Her utility drops off a sheer cliff when not paired with Xiao, Wanderer, or other dps Anemo builds. I get why she was mentioned, but she'd barely make the top 5 in anemo characters, not the top 3 (because we know Sucrose is always making that list for F2Ps lol)
Faruzan is extremely f2P friendly.
Unless you're buffing an anemo main dps, she's literally just Sucrose without the team buffs. Her grouping is on par with Kazuha even at C0, and her skill/hurricane arrow are spammable enough with a big enough aoe to do general anemo bullshit better than AMC or Lynette ever can and with no investment. And beyond her C1 which gives her even better grouping/flexibility, none of her other Cons are really worth pursuing unless you're planning to go all the way (Her C6 burst some small benefit to non-anemo dps parties as any damage will trigger the pressurized collapses and provides additional damage and grouping off-field, but it's not something I'd pursue intentionally as she does the job of an VV-buffer just fine at C0/C1).
And without Wanderer/Xiao/Heizou, you don't even care about her burst since it's just additional anemo application in that case, which she already has plenty of out of the box, so you don't even have to really build her for ER and can just focus on buffing her personal damage/swirls, and just use her burst whenever it's available).
I've been extremely impressed with her on my alt account as an anemo support even at just C0.
She also feels a lot better than Venti does and isn't completely useless if the enemy can't be sucked/moves around.
I’m very happy with Fischl’s placement, being the third place somehow fits her character quite well. She isn’t a Goddess nor is she a Queen, but for sure she is Die Prinzessin.
I do feel like you forgot Diona for Cryo. I personally would rank her above Rosaria as a FTP option. She doesn't have nearly the same damage, true, but I'd argue that her sheer utility makes her better overall. She shields, heals, and batteries, all of which are very when supporting Ayaka or Ganyu, and for anyone without Shenhe, that would make her the default second cryo on your team if you're doing a Freeze or Hypercarry team.
The "Best Character" is a subjective topic because it all depends on your cons and investment. Like the meta we use at C6 is completely different compared to the meta used at C0. So do your own research and pick your characters accordingly.
i really disagree on the positioning of niche supports (gorou/faruzan). it makes no sense for them to be higher than the dps they support, since they are just useless without their dps. otherwise, nice video!!!
I actually think Gorou makes sense- he doesn't just buff Itto, he buffs any geo. Faruzuan I disagree with, Venti is too good to not be on there
i might be biased because yelan is my first 5 star pull, but i don't think so any character will be able to live up to her, ignore abyss is most game content she makes life easier and time saving wether her skill or breakthrough barb to help with puzzles and she is comfortable as ranged .
And with furnia seemingly not occupy both xingqiu and her design slot and more likely going to be a support/onfield and the lack of hydro supports /hp buffer.
Just means shes going to be even better .
In a few months I think it would be cool to look at this from a different angle, best characters from each region. By then you could do a best 5-star and best 4-star and there will be enough Fontaine characters out to have reasonable representation. Also, I'd like to see something on C0 5-star versus C6 4-star for power ratings. A lot of creators say a C6 4-star can be better than a C0 5-star. I have been playing since October 2020 and have 16 C6 4-stars. They can out perform a C0 5-star in many areas, however as a F2P or light spender it might take several years to get enough copies.
Hi, not sure if this is already done, but a video with recommendations for vertical investment would be super interesting. :) Ur content is informative, keep up the good work.
I did one “you’re building too many characters”. Probably do a new one towards the end of Fontaine
As a Nilou main I'm happy :)
finally someone who knows yelan is better than xinqiu, they are close at c0 vs c6, but once u get her weapon or c1 she is a lot better, only if you can’t evade consistent he may be better for u
doesn't that just basically mean yelan is only better with her c1 and weapon bruh
@@serah666 well for xinqiu to compare to C0 yelan you need to C6 him and R5 his weapon, doing that is harder than getting a C5 C1 character and nope yelan is still a little better than him at C0 vs C6, unless you need defence, I prefer her passive dmg bonus by far
Her hydro app is worse and she needs way more er.
@@lawfulgoodnun1646 her dmg is greater and ER boost her dmg, also is easier to get C1 Yelan than C6 R5 xinqiu, and you can keep making Yelan better with constellations and weapon upgrades, while xinqiu is capped at that level (C0 yelan level)
@@nunanetoyou can get c6 xingqui from the shop by being f2p easily and also I don't think xingqui needs r5 i didn't used to have r5 sacrificial so i just used fav r1 and it works perfectly fine and xingqui's more hydro application is what sells him being better then yelan in my opinion rather then his defensive utility yelan is better when less hydro application is needed that is how i see it atleast
I'm glad I got lyney, really loving him. I have him getting 20 to 30 thousand crits. Really fun character
You can look from character archive since you dont have all characters yet there is a lot of characters in game so you can forget some characters exist or doesnt come to your mind
For Yelan to surpass R5 Xingqiu, she needs C1. The real question is what do you have access to. P.S. Difference between C0 and C1 Yelan is like getting a new separate character.
Truth… the extra energy & damage is insane… only thing Xq had over Yelan is water application depending on the team. His E is fantastic with CQC
Yelan c1 only matters if you cant fit 2 E into a rotation, otherwise its a x1 with sac
Yelen is damage focused xingqiu
While xingqiu
Is well everyone knows what he does but
Interruption resistance
Better hydro application
A small heal about 4k with 19khp xingqiu
And bis weapon is 4star
(Which everyone who played the game since released would already have at r5)
Cons provide hydro resistance shred so yelen would want xingqiu with her more than xingqiu would want yelen with him
But yelen is a girl so I pick yelen
C1 with bis weapon🖖👌🌹
she needs c2 to rlly surpass xingqiu, otherwise xingqius hydro app is gonna be significantly better for majority of teams
@@blastzd me with my c0 r1 aqua ... dealing 14k per burst hit (with hydro resonance and vv shred)👁️👄👁️
Yeah the hydro application part is true ..
The only one i would change is Balls over Rosaria. Balls is a very good cryo applicator especially at c6 and he also can dish out very good dmg and is the best battery for cryo units by a mile in freeze teams.
I've been buying him from the shop for years and still no c6...
Balls??
@@joeltoomer3332, it’s Kaeya. I think it’s based off some popular meme and has stuck. The fish claymore is called Joel, etc.
he practically has no constellations and lacking support utilities though
I think the bigger argument for Xingqiu being better than Yelan is that Xingqiu's better application means you can run any team with him but certain teams like Hu Tao cant function with just Yelan. Xingqiu is more flexible on top of the defensive utility and f2p friendliness. I think it can go either way like you said, but most accounts would prefer c6 Xingqiu to c0 Yelan if you have to pick one.
The way I agreed with you on almost every single one omg. W takes W opinions