Andrew Bustamante: CIA Spy | Lex Fridman Podcast

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  • Andrew Bustamante is a former CIA covert intelligence officer. Check out his work and podcast at everydayspy.com Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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    OUTLINE:
    0:00 - Introduction
    0:56 - CIA and the President
    12:34 - War in Ukraine
    53:30 - Most powerful intelligence agencies
    1:00:40 - David Petraeus
    1:10:17 - Undercover disguises
    1:23:16 - Human nature
    1:32:36 - CIA recruitment process
    1:49:19 - CIA and secrecy
    1:55:52 - Cyber security
    2:06:34 - Sexpionage
    2:13:08 - Private intelligence
    2:26:35 - NSA and Snowden
    2:54:34 - Conspiracy theories
    3:15:42 - CIA and UFOs
    3:30:27 - Spy tricks
    3:47:10 - Advice for young people
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  • @lexfridman
    @lexfridman  Před rokem +1902

    Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast.
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    0:56 - CIA and the President
    12:34 - War in Ukraine
    53:30 - Most powerful intelligence agencies
    1:00:40 - David Petraeus
    1:10:17 - Undercover disguises
    1:23:16 - Human nature
    1:32:36 - CIA recruitment process
    1:49:19 - CIA and secrecy
    1:55:52 - Cyber security
    2:06:34 - Sexpionage
    2:13:08 - Private intelligence
    2:26:35 - NSA and Snowden
    2:54:34 - Conspiracy theories
    3:15:42 - CIA and UFOs
    3:30:27 - Spy tricks
    3:47:10 - Advice for young people

    • @phillipsundal8782
      @phillipsundal8782 Před rokem +36

      Thanks, Lex! Any updates on interview with Putin?

    • @lisettegarcia
      @lisettegarcia Před rokem +43

      I'm only 3:00 minutes in and he already misspoke about the source of the authorities. It is not divvied up by the executive. The authorities are legislative in nature, stemming directly from federal statute, codified in the US Code following drafting and ratification by the US Congress.
      He's also wrong about how money is appropriated/spent 6:20 but he is accurate that 6:25 the directors "serve at the pleasure of the President." Ntl, he's wrong about this appointment structure being reducible to cronyism because the agency could effectively mount a coup against the president and the country if Presidents can't choose leaders to those organizations that they trust. The body of the organization in the form of nonpolitical staff -- each of which is empowered to disregard any illegal order -- is the check against the corruption he purportedly decries.

    • @1walicki
      @1walicki Před rokem +19

      Every now and again his voice & intonations sounds just like Joe Rogan

    • @garad123456
      @garad123456 Před rokem +41

      29:30 He claims that UK paid off the lend-lease aid in 2020. That is absolutely false. Lend-lease of WW2 didnt have to be paid back.
      "The Lend-Lease agreements with 30 countries provided for repayment not in terms of money or returned goods, but in "joint action directed towards the creation of a liberalized international economic order in the postwar world." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease
      He may be mixing it with the anglo-american loan which was given after war and UK paid back in 2006. It helped UK economy to stay running. Also US gave enormous amounts of aid to europe to rebuild, known as marshall aid. This guy frames american aid to europe as malicious, wanting to debt countries. He spreads downright lies and Lex does nothing about it. That's the quality of this podcast.

    • @danielshaffer1283
      @danielshaffer1283 Před rokem +34

      Just listened to the Ukraine part. I am glad to hear Lex doing more pushback, and it seems the visit to Ukraine maybe revealed to him something that Bustamante does not understand, that Ukrainians are fighting for their freedom. Bustamante is wrong, by the way, that revolutions and wars of independence have only been one with support of great powers. Look at India or Israel for some examples, or say Algeria. Bustamante also seems to miss the bigger geopolitical picture and why it’s important for the West that Ukraine wins: if Russia wins, it will keep invading it’s neighbors, as will other countries that calculate that they can get away with it. That will weaken the western order of the world we live in, including democracy, freedom and other human rights. So his assessment on Ukraine I believe is as wrong as it was on how quickly Russia will take Ukraine (as he admits), and for the same reason. Even if Ukraine falls to Russia, they will resist the puppet government, just like the Finns did in 1930’s. Russia lost already, even if it conquers Ukraine.
      To Lex, if you read this: I had been banned by you or one of you admins on your telegram. Most likely because I speculated that you might still be looking up to Putin as you seemed to before. I can’t know what your true opinion is, but I am hopeful that if you ever did admire Putin, that visiting Ukraine changed your mind. It takes strong character to change your own mind. Hopefully you can then understand why I was upset with you before, if that showed through my comments. As you, this conflict is personal to me. I am still not sure what your stance is now, but I’ll be looking forward to your video on the trip to Ukraine with some hope now.

  • @mrgman1326
    @mrgman1326 Před rokem +5814

    I’m a retired FBI Special Agent, and I can say that Andrew’s thoughts on our government not using surveillance against us, but only for terrorism is incredibly naive.

    • @misterserious3522
      @misterserious3522 Před rokem +831

      One doesnt need to be a retired FIB speshul agent to get that.

    • @monica1811
      @monica1811 Před rokem +289

      It’s also a lie. Though he may actually believe that, deceive until one believes can apply to themselves as well.

    • @sqatsi1101
      @sqatsi1101 Před rokem +340

      Security over freedom leads to neither-he’s had a cup of kool-aid too many despite his high IQ.

    • @deejhay
      @deejhay Před rokem +84

      That's not Andrew's thoughts... it's legend

    • @mgmassey174
      @mgmassey174 Před rokem

      Well then, as the daughter of predatory pedophiles, I'd say my naivete went back in 1963.
      I trust no one .

  • @mrmofopink
    @mrmofopink Před rokem +5044

    "When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are being ruled by criminals" - Edward Snowden.

    • @mariannorton4161
      @mariannorton4161 Před rokem +79

      Yep.

    • @Ojja78
      @Ojja78 Před rokem +100

      Damn, that hits hard.

    • @jannichi6431
      @jannichi6431 Před rokem +75

      Wonder how the free Snowden movement is doing, haven't heard anything a while?

    • @marineviet-vet2908
      @marineviet-vet2908 Před rokem +10

      correction my friend, Not where that sublime Detective Sherlock Holmes enters an apperance

    • @user-qc8vj3vp9v
      @user-qc8vj3vp9v Před rokem +23

      Great, and accurate statement.👍🏼❤

  • @ultmiddle4991
    @ultmiddle4991 Před 15 dny +35

    Why am I waking up in the middle of the night with this playing on my phone? This interview is one year old

    • @salvaloco17
      @salvaloco17 Před 9 dny +9

      This literally just happened to me. lol

    • @selmeb1291
      @selmeb1291 Před 4 dny +7

      Me too!

    • @leslielearnorth
      @leslielearnorth Před 4 dny +4

      You too??! I thought I was the only one who fell asleep to yt 😅

    • @michaelhicks3909
      @michaelhicks3909 Před 4 dny +1

      Same

    • @ultmiddle4991
      @ultmiddle4991 Před 4 dny +2

      @@leslielearnorth Cannot fall asleep unless I have a story or conversation going to occupy my mind so I will lay still long enough to zonk out. Also it runs interference with tinnitus. You?

  • @Tonikor
    @Tonikor Před měsícem +23

    His statements about the war between Russia and Ukraine has aged like fine milk 🥛

  • @sbarmiueenl
    @sbarmiueenl Před 5 měsíci +476

    That guy made a living out of lying, but he would never lie to us.

    • @saxhound2003
      @saxhound2003 Před 4 měsíci +9

      . . ever . . His eyes can see thru a concrete wall, as easily as a bank vault door, and read your mind like an open book, already closed. Thank You Andy and Lex! Have some more Kool aid . . and relax . .

    • @saxhound2003
      @saxhound2003 Před 4 měsíci +2

      1:46:00 1:46:00 1:46:00
      Z-row One of You are one too . . oroZ.;¿

    • @letyourlightshine8646
      @letyourlightshine8646 Před 2 měsíci +34

      Once CIA always CIA. No one ever leaves. The role may change, but I think it’s obvious to most that ole Andy is tasked with repairing the image of the spooks.

    • @Humanfirst528
      @Humanfirst528 Před 2 měsíci +5

      😂😂😂 oh no he would NEVER lie to "who"???

    • @Humanfirst528
      @Humanfirst528 Před 2 měsíci

      CIA needs to be dismanled! They are out of control for the gouverment!!

  • @renaissanceredneck3695
    @renaissanceredneck3695 Před 5 měsíci +576

    One thing I heard a CIA operative say is, there is "No such thing as former CIA."

    • @minibobber
      @minibobber Před 4 měsíci +35

      its sounds catchy so it must be true.

    • @renaissanceredneck3695
      @renaissanceredneck3695 Před 4 měsíci +32

      @@minibobber ask a Marine if they were "formerly" a Marine.

    • @Roberto-de8xv
      @Roberto-de8xv Před 4 měsíci +18

      ​@@renaissanceredneck3695my friend says former Marine but he felt duped for fighting in Iraq..the propaganda was strong back then

    • @vibes24osrs
      @vibes24osrs Před 4 měsíci +14

      thats simply not true theres a former CIA agent that lives in my town his whole identity is being a former CIA member lol

    • @renaissanceredneck3695
      @renaissanceredneck3695 Před 4 měsíci

      @@vibes24osrs you apparently missed the point. Yes, there are people that are former employees of the CIA, and yet most still maintain their contacts with the agency, and will do favors for their former employer, just search for "Anderson+Cooper+CIA". But yes, technically you're correct.

  • @SHADOWRONEMUS
    @SHADOWRONEMUS Před měsícem +105

    Lex did just an amazing job interviewing Mr. Bustamonte, I’ve heard probably eight or nine interviews with him and Lex asked the most probing and interesting questions which Andrew seem to have trouble answering some but I’m very proud of Lex doing such a great job asking probing questions I’ve been a listener and love this podcast almost since it’s inception and the growth in his ability to interview is clearly apparent in my estimation. Keep doing what you do Lex I believe you have one of the most important platforms out there for conversation, and from what I’ve seen, always acting in good faith, love for his fellow man and optimism.

    • @Killuminati23
      @Killuminati23 Před měsícem +12

      ever wondered why this cia guy is wandering around every second channel just at this moment, with the talking points he brings up?

    • @JamesBrown-ux9ds
      @JamesBrown-ux9ds Před měsícem +2

      Too obvious he has had no idea what to ask. He missed almost every junction. But first of all you need to know the infinite numbers of rooms and boxes that are. Or could be out of the blue. America can't win. They don't know the game.

    • @TheOpenSociety777
      @TheOpenSociety777 Před 24 dny +2

      @@JamesBrown-ux9ds Ok Mr Wizard 😂😂👎

  • @Fulltime_Rookie
    @Fulltime_Rookie Před měsícem +10

    Really enjoy these conversations, thanks Lex and Co. Always fascinating and interesting 😎 Equally grateful for all professionals who give their time for everyone to appreciate 🙏🏻 Keep pushing !

  • @donnakirkpatrick8599
    @donnakirkpatrick8599 Před 5 měsíci +462

    As a citizen of 78 years old, I haven't trusted government since November 1963. Lots of people in my generation think this more and more . Corruption has grown in this country as it has in every government throughout time.

    • @anuragmadan
      @anuragmadan Před 4 měsíci +5

      but was there a good time at all?

    • @user-qr2kt2oq7s
      @user-qr2kt2oq7s Před 4 měsíci +4

      Before the criminals showed us who they were.

    • @terranwars3504
      @terranwars3504 Před 4 měsíci +9

      But it's your generation making the rules right now. And have been for a while.

    • @Brian-nl1ok
      @Brian-nl1ok Před 4 měsíci +9

      : "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin.

    • @alexandrailubs2945
      @alexandrailubs2945 Před 3 měsíci +2

      78?😮

  • @therikkest310
    @therikkest310 Před rokem +4740

    I like that Lex always has prepared questions but also goes off script when he's interested. He's the perfect AI.

    • @markandremy
      @markandremy Před rokem +40

      lol

    • @zekea7873
      @zekea7873 Před rokem

      @Melvin Deeply He told Zuckerberg, “a lot of people dislike you, some may even say hate you”.

    • @seeyanexttuesday23
      @seeyanexttuesday23 Před rokem +52

      "Off script" Lex is the best. We want to see him engaged in the conversation enough to forget he has an audience. I believe the best has yet to come here. He is a butterfly. ♥️

    • @JohnCraic89
      @JohnCraic89 Před rokem +13

      🤣🤣

    • @Y0utubePresident
      @Y0utubePresident Před rokem +5

      🤣

  • @PlanetaryVisitor
    @PlanetaryVisitor Před měsícem +16

    We've seen dozens of Lex interviews ~ all of them good, this one the best ~ 4 hours well spent ~ thanks for a challenging world view... even when we weren't so sure it was right.

  • @Jrogs4
    @Jrogs4 Před měsícem +6

    This video pops up on my auto play at least 3x a week and I close it immediately

  • @brentm9848
    @brentm9848 Před 5 měsíci +1097

    He has an amazing ability to sound so certain and so knowledgeable about things he was entirely (and predictably) wrong about.

    • @Skaggs666
      @Skaggs666 Před 5 měsíci +27

      Like the US trying to seek diplomatic solutions to abducted citizens. I lol’d at that one

    • @spermwater
      @spermwater Před 5 měsíci

      @brentm9848 do you have any sources that can validate this? (Serious question)

    • @chrisf4268
      @chrisf4268 Před 5 měsíci +44

      That is how people like him earn a living. There are many of his kind out there.

    • @stephencurtis2282
      @stephencurtis2282 Před 5 měsíci

      This guy is a salesman for US interests and stated intentions. He's a clever and highly intelligent mind manipulator and I would not trust him with a toothpick. The US is going through a remarkable moral conflict within itself. It says "democracy and freedom" while it parlays with the worst examples of non-democratic regimes worldwide. The mantra is that the ends must justify the means at any cost. They are embedded in a truly immense moral vacuum where principles are exchanged for expedient so blithely and often; so conflicted and removed from truth, that it's hard to comprehend what they stand for anymore. If only they did what they said. The real reason they don't is because their moral compass has been so overrun by the military imperative that it's impossible anymore to know what is real and what they truly value. This is 'Orwell' written in the language of cubic dollars, the lies of the US government, while at the cost of the lives of the propagandized and indentured governments. War is a terrible thing, but we don't mind, if we get the result we want - this is what they are saying. Ukraine is the plaything of the hegemonic interests of the US as it faces down Russia while it invokes its worn-out platitudes for an expedient.

    • @stefanpopescu9664
      @stefanpopescu9664 Před 5 měsíci +54

      like any sociopath liar ... he is just another Wayne Simmons, not even a good one ... I have no idea how he tricked Lex to get on his podcast

  • @izrealfluid24
    @izrealfluid24 Před 6 měsíci +813

    The last thing I'm going to do is trust anything CIA agent says

    • @aaronjenkins2135
      @aaronjenkins2135 Před 5 měsíci

      When the cia agent is telling you the opposite is true of what the official media is telling you then you listen.

    • @drewhuckabay3425
      @drewhuckabay3425 Před 5 měsíci +50

      All information is good information. It is good to distrust and question everything. It's foolish to completely turn away someone's voice because of their past.

    • @CockSmasher-xw4px
      @CockSmasher-xw4px Před 5 měsíci +27

      @@drewhuckabay3425 You probably read through all your spam emails dont you?

    • @indogyrsimdead
      @indogyrsimdead Před 5 měsíci

      @@CockSmasher-xw4px lol

    • @ChicagoHaitian3566
      @ChicagoHaitian3566 Před 5 měsíci

      @@CockSmasher-xw4px😂😂😂

  • @maxfield3106
    @maxfield3106 Před měsícem +27

    the way that he neither confirmed nor denied remote viewing and then gave that "hey, according to einstein's theory, anything's possible" felt quite revealing actually

    • @DragonAI_Power
      @DragonAI_Power Před měsícem

      Now you understand

    • @DeadStreamOrganics
      @DeadStreamOrganics Před měsícem

      I know an ex intelligence operative, it’s not a question of if they can access your electronic information and devices, it’s how fast and how easy. For example iPhones are all a 3 digit number/ prompt in the emergency call screen from accessing everything you’ve ever had on your phone, he had my phones entire history pulled up in less than 5 seconds

    • @conspiringcolton
      @conspiringcolton Před měsícem

      @@DeadStreamOrganicsLmao this guy supposedly trusted you with top secret information, that if publicly shared could lead him to charges of treason, and here you are blabbing in a YT comment. that poor bastard needs to pick better friends, if he’s not just something you made up in your head to sound interesting in the absence of intellect

    • @TheFakeNewsFrog
      @TheFakeNewsFrog Před 16 dny

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@DeadStreamOrganics1. The guy was probably lying about being an “ex intelligence operative”.
      2. The “3-digit code on the emergency call screen” trick was patched after iOS 6.1.
      3. “Accessing everything you’ve ever had on your phone” is a broad statement that doesn’t provide any detail. Access what? Your app history, call logs, messages? Or do you literally mean “everything”?
      Because if you’re implying “everything”, then you’re also implying your iPhone keeps a local data log of every action that’s ever happened on your iPhone… The immense amount of data that would amount to, either wouldn’t fit on your iPhone storage, or at least would be extremely noticeable.
      4. If such an exploit were to exist, hackers would have found it. It would be public, and Apple would have patched it. There’s no way around that.
      5. The US government wouldn’t need to access your phone inperson to view or review any data that might be relevant to them. Your internet traffic is monitored, your calls are monitored, your messages are monitored. They don’t need a “secret code” to bypass a lock screen. The issue of time is only relevant to encrypted information & communications. But even still, such a thing as a “secret code” would be impossible to keep secret.

  • @loganpowell09
    @loganpowell09 Před 19 dny +2

    Ive woken up to this video for the past 200 days. I can almost recite it.

  • @welcome33333
    @welcome33333 Před 6 měsíci +144

    One year later, it has luckily not played out as Andrew predicted. Germany survived winter, the Ukrainian South has not fallen, Odessa is still free and the war has not come to Moldova.

    • @ChamikaraBandaraFilm
      @ChamikaraBandaraFilm Před 5 měsíci +5

      But RUS is keep shelling at Odessa harbor.

    • @vanritma4198
      @vanritma4198 Před 5 měsíci +1

      He might give you some true informations, but i think this is false programming. Still an agent as you say, so who knows what they are about here.

    • @jennifermommy9373
      @jennifermommy9373 Před 5 měsíci

      Well, it's been a bit since your comment and Ukraine isn't doing well. They are begging for more money. No money? Then credit? There is talk of putting troops on the ground. People are worried about a draft because it's going "so well" for Ukraine. Nah. We are being fed lies about how that war is going. Fortunately for the North American governments, Gaza is getting scary spicy. A great distraction from Ukraine and the taxpayers' money being laundered through these wars for our political elites and their oligarchies and whatever foreign power has money to grease our government or wants grease money from America. Have we all forgotten how many of these nations hate us. Hate our freedom from religion and our freedom to be whatever religion we want. North America isn't a cou try any more it's a corporation, and it's run like a slum lord runs his rental units. Ukraine can't win this war the way zelensky is demanding. The fact that a cease fire, truce, and negotiations are not a priority. Why? All we get is propaganda. Gaza? That war has been raging for thousands of years. Both sides are willing to be rabid, out of control monsters to each other. There is noway that your everyday moron knows enough true information to be cheering for a Jewish genocide or a Palestinian genocide. Hamasaki is using the ppl as a shield while the kill members on the other side. So should Isreal just lay down and let Hamasaki kill them in events like oct 7th? Of course not. At this point, both sides have done horrifying crimes against humanity to each other. For ppl in month America to act so sure, so cavalier about that conflict like Amy of us have a real clue about it or even have a right to tell other countries what to do. Meanwhile North American citizens are going to freeze this winter, starve, lose their homes, etc, and our governments are more worried about their bank accounts than the fact that how they are governing is destroying our nation's. It's slimy and disgusting, and as long as we keep buying the woke narrative the way the politicians want us to things will only get worse. Humans thrive under boundaries, borders, structure, routine, certainties in our life but woke is robbing us of all of that while fixing nothing.

    • @bluesuedeshoes801
      @bluesuedeshoes801 Před 5 měsíci +4

      True that tbh, but I won't fault his train of thought at the time. Plus Russia has the upper hand rn and Odessa is still in their sights

    • @HBD2U78
      @HBD2U78 Před 5 měsíci +5

      He was right about Israel

  • @vovasemenenko9458
    @vovasemenenko9458 Před 6 měsíci +384

    I was thinking “wow what a likable guy” until he started talking about the NSA. Then I remembered- Oh yeah, this guy is a fed 😂

    • @johnmcauliffe8824
      @johnmcauliffe8824 Před 5 měsíci +29

      A rule of thumb is that there is no such thing as "ex CIA"

    • @JonBonDylan
      @JonBonDylan Před 5 měsíci +10

      Yes exactly - we are ignorant, and he is on the side of the law 😂 Jesus was a criminal in the eyes of law

    • @susanlorraineknox5780
      @susanlorraineknox5780 Před 5 měsíci +11

      I'd be real careful about lumping everyone onto an either/or paradigm. There are always exceptions and gradients. It's hard to tell who's who these days.

    • @vovasemenenko9458
      @vovasemenenko9458 Před 5 měsíci +8

      @@susanlorraineknox5780 ok Karen

    • @saveamerica7502
      @saveamerica7502 Před 5 měsíci +3

      2:33 yes a private court, along with with having the knowledge of what some politician is said privately to use against them. Sometimes it's not about prosecution it's about leverage and you can bet this guy knows I agree with the original poster the sky is likeable but he is definitely drank the Kool-Aid that we should trust these agencies as if they haven't had an agenda to be able to drag in billions and billions of dollars for their operations. And they need Congress to approve a lot of that dark money what a better way to do it than to read into their metadata which is already been proven that the organizations have done this. One last thing they don't need to take it to the courts and have the courts arrest people they just need to say we don't like this person's view take them off Twitter or X right like we have already seen proven again that if they don't like your views they will remove you from social media while the government just hints at the fact that this person is a bad person.

  • @jbferrer3
    @jbferrer3 Před 25 dny +439

    Who else doesn't believe this guy?

  • @PopaZit
    @PopaZit Před měsícem +5

    I absolutely love your work! Thank you for listening to all sides!

  • @ChiaraDBrown
    @ChiaraDBrown Před rokem +3655

    Andrew: I am trained by the most competent spy agency in the world to lie to people and pretend that I am their friend and giving them something they want, but I actually have ulterior motives and am willing to do or say practically anything to achieve those motives. And even though I am not longer employed by the CIA, I still enjoy doing that in my personal life.
    Everyone: But he's not doing that with us!!!

  • @momentarynarration
    @momentarynarration Před rokem +634

    Loving Mike Baker’s new disguise, almost couldn’t tell it was him

    • @kwameowusu8351
      @kwameowusu8351 Před rokem +19

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @goranbrajkovic9925
      @goranbrajkovic9925 Před rokem +13

      😂😂😂

    • @remix-yy1hs
      @remix-yy1hs Před rokem +10

      Hahahah I love you man. I was losing hope. Thanks man I really mean it

    • @juniorcusn
      @juniorcusn Před rokem +1

      🤣

    • @henry06x
      @henry06x Před rokem

      Mike baker leaves his phone at home and takes an old dumb car woody wagon to disappear in the woods. This dudes full on let the government spy on you we would never turn it against you….

  • @giurculetepaul8034
    @giurculetepaul8034 Před měsícem +4

    I felt you a bit overwhelmed, Fridman. I loved the interview. Thx for your hard work.

  • @theghost9479
    @theghost9479 Před 2 měsíci +19

    This is an amazing conversation. Thank you for this!

  • @victorjans3771
    @victorjans3771 Před rokem +569

    His "moral flexibility" really showed when he talked about Snowden and mass surveillance.

    • @PhilipDirven
      @PhilipDirven Před rokem +101

      Indeed, I also think that for the majority of the people 'Snowden' was a wake up call instead of a bleep on their radar.

    • @sb75ification
      @sb75ification Před rokem +32

      Victor Jans….you’ve just been put on 17 additional Fed lists.

    • @victorjans3771
      @victorjans3771 Před rokem +37

      @@sb75ification trust me, I'm on all of them

    • @jovianfour20
      @jovianfour20 Před rokem +10

      His "bass-line" was squirming.

    • @jovianfour20
      @jovianfour20 Před rokem +26

      "Its much more sensible to be a silent servant humbly carrying the burden of public service". Sounds legit. I wish some of our tax money would silently and humbly give us some health care and public education.

  • @Branko353
    @Branko353 Před rokem +3145

    He finally found his dream job. Working for CIA as an ex-CIA.

    • @SalemSphynx
      @SalemSphynx Před rokem +48

      Lol🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @tewekdenahom485
      @tewekdenahom485 Před rokem

      ex cia is code for CIA agent for life

    • @lprophit
      @lprophit Před rokem +21

      haha

    • @irajohnson1101
      @irajohnson1101 Před rokem +20

      The interviewee is giving his thoughts on the possibility of the outcome of the war bad or not.

    • @jmp01a24
      @jmp01a24 Před rokem +49

      There's a word for such a guy... can't quite remember, plz help me. TRAITOR!!!

  • @clintonj5954
    @clintonj5954 Před 22 dny +2

    Thank you Lex, definitely using 'pragmatic pessimism' I love how the dynamic of the conversation changed with your ease.

  • @charlottemoritz1352
    @charlottemoritz1352 Před měsícem +3

    I was asked to take the MBTI and WPI when applying for a job requiring close partnership with a colleague. They wanted to make sure we would work well together to reduce chance of turnover. We are going on 7 years and married - The interviewer was invited to our wedding :)
    I certainly think there is validity to using the MBTI as a data point for compatibility. The WPI (workplace inventory) that we took in addition to the MBTI determines your workplace style and mentality. Compatibility in working together, whether in careers or in personal lives, is just as valuable and important. I think using the two tests together would offer a far better insight.

  • @MrEazyE357
    @MrEazyE357 Před rokem +440

    Never thought I'd see two spies from opposing countries talking to each other on a podcast. The world we live in!

    • @rachelmolina986
      @rachelmolina986 Před rokem +26

      😂😂😂 .. best comment here!!

    • @idn
      @idn Před rokem +7

      LOL

    • @stephenuhe9229
      @stephenuhe9229 Před rokem +4

      There is a story where you had to be the survivor and it was a contest so only soldiers entered this contest This contest was on a really really rugged wild mountain track with wild weather and snow and one had to hunt to catch their tucker their food and hike and miss landmines and then get back to the base and be the 1st first back and be the winner and than you would get to become an elite soldier a spy or whatever or the equivalent of the green Berrets. Anyway the contestant the brave soldier would be dropped off in the wild at the beginning of this extremely crazy and unpredictable corse with just a compass and weapon and moderately warm clothing and a tarp that could be easily carried also a very sketchy map and then get driven to the drop off point where the soldier the contestant would have to hike back to base the best way he could. The track was made so that the soldiers the contestant would enivatably have to go over the mountain and along a ridge to get back to base and they were given the bare essentials in order to survive or sometimes die as it was a harrowing journey. They sent the soldiers out one by one so when one got back usually after a month then they would send out the next contestant the next soldier. Anyway this one soldier came back only after one day and one night and the judges looked really surprised as absolutely no one had finished their quest the corse so quickly or usually did not return within a month so the judges the commanders were like um "CONGRADULATIONS augh um we think... but we can't work out why you finished the hike the corse augh that by the way usually takes a month and mostly more than a month to return and you soldier are back the next day...how " the judges asked and the soldier "how did you manage to do this "? the judges were confused as they asked hesitantly. A sly smile came over the soldiers the winners face. If your reading this story have you worked out how the soldier the winner how he managed and how he returned back to base only after a day and night and so efficiently or and quickly ?? "Like I stated" the dude soldier said and then ...a sly smile returned and came over his face as the judges shuffled their feet and he said " well i didn't really want to get frozen out there where its minus ten degrees and I heard that most soldiers died trying to make it back to the finish line first so he said I will tell you so he went on to say "well on the way to the drop off point I started thinking about my chance of winning and at this point may I remind you gentlemen um officers that you said " first back" so I thought about that and my survival chances and spoke to my driver about it and he told me he had dreamed of doing the corse and becoming a top gun and a hero but he said he knew from past exercises and training drills that his chances of even finishing the corse were slim and he said he was" pretty much a failure and then the driver went on to tell me how he didn't know if he would ever even get up the nerve to speak and it was at this stage of the conversation I offered him a smoke as he the driver finished his sentence..." to any gir.... " "So in my mind at this moment I assessed his life and thought yeah mate your not really soldier material and your life sounds so depressing and it was at that piont that I knew how I was going to win and get back to the finish line first and how I would be certain to win" said the soldier and he stated and it was at that moment that I pulled out my knife and as swiftly as I could i mustered all my strength and all my inner gall and put aside my guilt and then without another thought to my fellow driver I plunged the knife deeply into the drivers body and I managed to kill him quickly and cleanly thus I won " he looked satisfied and said ". I am the winner ....correct. ????!! I hope you enjoyed this story. I wonder how many readers guessed the ending before the end ?? The END.

    • @JeffKubel
      @JeffKubel Před rokem +3

      Lmao

    • @stephenuhe9229
      @stephenuhe9229 Před rokem +3

      @@AB-wf8ek I never claimed to be a good story writer but it does make one wonder about the stakes and the outcome and the justification. The dude was made for killing I guess. I just got fascinated by the tale.

  • @PronkDaMonk
    @PronkDaMonk Před rokem +1726

    This guy is like a cool youth pastor for the cia

  • @catherinekirby6745
    @catherinekirby6745 Před 19 dny

    That interview was so Great! Thank you to both of you!! Now I'm going to find the Joe Rogan interview you did. 😃

  • @piersyfy4148
    @piersyfy4148 Před měsícem +8

    People in this comment section are sooo smart. Like, I can't take it guys. You're so intelligent. I saw your 100th comment about "former CIA agent is still CIA" and all the other clever things you spotted to see through the facade. Congratulations! I've prepared a golden star.

  • @karlmcatamney1938
    @karlmcatamney1938 Před rokem +2055

    Great to see an ex and a current Cia ops chatting together... the psy ops is next level.

  • @Heiserton
    @Heiserton Před rokem +332

    As soon as he started talking about the NSA and trading all freedom for a false sense of security, he showed his cards.

  • @Findmylimit
    @Findmylimit Před měsícem +2

    Great interview thank you!

  • @advanced_code_made_easy
    @advanced_code_made_easy Před měsícem

    This is one of my favorite ones. He actually broke into your heart here, and that's not why I liked it so much... I just liked the truth from it.
    You do SO well dude by staying as un-biased as possible... In some VERY passionate conversations.
    Kudos to you both!

  • @GerardVaughan-qe7ml
    @GerardVaughan-qe7ml Před rokem +157

    "Our disinformation campaign will be complete when everything the American citizen thinks they know, is untrue".
    William Casey CIA director ( way back when)

    • @denovo62
      @denovo62 Před rokem

      Yeah and Mike Pompeo’s more recent comment “we lie, we cheat, we steal….” When referring to his stint heading the CIA. Their resume reads like the right hand guy of Satan himself.

    • @alexlaw1892
      @alexlaw1892 Před rokem

      They're campaign must be close to complete then.
      Pretty much everyone thinks. Race mixing, pedophilia, the moon landing, and germ theory are true and moral. So job done.

    • @user-ws3sl9xi7y
      @user-ws3sl9xi7y Před rokem +6

      What a creepy quote huh?

    • @Jamesfrancosdog
      @Jamesfrancosdog Před rokem

      There’s no proof this quote is even real. A staffer claimed she heard it in a meeting with Him
      And President Reagan.

  • @bivvystridents3752
    @bivvystridents3752 Před 8 měsíci +418

    A year later... this guy was pretty wrong on Ukraine and Europe.

    • @michaell3105
      @michaell3105 Před 7 měsíci +26

      man was just thinking that. intelligence is only worth so much

    • @privacyhelp
      @privacyhelp Před 7 měsíci +17

      imagine an ex cia LOL

    • @Vinemaple41
      @Vinemaple41 Před 7 měsíci +78

      His assessment is completely baseless and ungrounded, yet he spewed that out with full confidence 😂

    • @brandonchan8667
      @brandonchan8667 Před 7 měsíci +24

      Yep I was just about to comment that this didn't age so well lol

    • @7Vooby
      @7Vooby Před 7 měsíci +30

      @@Vinemaple41 the "europe will freeze" part is especially hilarious

  • @Bedrock33783
    @Bedrock33783 Před měsícem +3

    Lex you have told me a lot I never click on your videos but fall asleep listening to something else and end up listening to you great work on hacking CZcams. I do enjoy your content though thank you

  • @jongason660
    @jongason660 Před měsícem +2

    Lex you do a great show. Thankyou Sir.

  • @JoseTheRover
    @JoseTheRover Před 5 měsíci +118

    Man this video and this guy’s predictions didn’t pan out…

    • @yarik12341
      @yarik12341 Před 2 měsíci +9

      Yeah this pod just auto played to me after a Joe Rogan video and his confidence on south Ukraine by fall was odd. I think with my personal bias I thought, at the time, that Ukraine would hold onto the south.

    • @MelbourneMeMe
      @MelbourneMeMe Před 2 měsíci +23

      "western propaganda is basically the same as Russian propaganda" was just as laughable... What a bs 'expert', lex should have him back on and just replay parts of this...

    • @LauraLouLou
      @LauraLouLou Před 2 měsíci +5

      They are now!

    • @applestienwilocox6381
      @applestienwilocox6381 Před 2 měsíci

      Guys an idiot and doesn't know anything he keeps talking about the lend lease act since the invasion not a dollar or military equipment has been sent through the lend lease they owe us nothing this guy is a clown.

    • @ReturnToSender1313
      @ReturnToSender1313 Před měsícem

      @@MelbourneMeMewell, all governments lie. We the people, are a means to an end. Politicians are strangers who enjoy the trappings of power

  • @ems7500
    @ems7500 Před rokem +404

    It’s amazing how long this man can talk and how open he seems but still… didn’t really tell us anything we couldn’t already find out with a google search. These CIA guys are CIA for life

    • @jtzoltan
      @jtzoltan Před rokem +66

      And his whole speech about the US liking to talk pro democracy, but are not willing to put real boots on the ground when democratic nations are attacked is insane. He used the example of Afghanistan, Ukraine and Hong Kong:
      Afghanistan was a debacle invasion and occupation that was mismanaged and doomed to fail and should never have happened in the first place. Was a massive black budget outlet to pay god knows what interests.
      Hong Kong was China's sphere of influence and part of China. I hate seeing them go down and support their freedom, but it is not for us to dictate.
      Ukraine was something we forced the hands of Russia on as everyone in US State knows that a neutral Ukraine was the only feasible position. When the CIA got involved in the coup that threw out the government in 2014, Russia was going to react militarily. When Ukraine broke the Minsk 2 accords and continued to shell The Donabas and Lugansk People’s Republics and when Ukraine was gearing up to join NATO, then Russia was going to act. Ukraine gives too good a staging position to invade Russia and severl other reasons, it would be like China overthrowing Canada by subterfuge and allying with them bringing in weapons, equipment and soldiers in a military alliance. The US wouldn't stand for it either.
      I love Lex but he talks like the Russians are propagandized when what he described them believing is considerbly more true amd real thn what Westerners know and think about this war.

    • @aono335
      @aono335 Před rokem +27

      This was most likely PR stuff or psyops. You give people just enough to keep their interest and to distinguish doubts.

    • @mst7155
      @mst7155 Před rokem

      To EMS: exactly: the Che Guevara looking like guy talks a lot but nothing real interesting.... Except maybe his theory of Putin winning the war in Ucraine! Is there a scientifical definition of winning???? The common sense can evaluate the winning of the war in terms of human life losses, territorial gains, economical costs,short/ long term benefits...... Assessing that Putin is winning is a bold affirmation not very well supported by empirical data... Of course Putin can grab some territory and declare victory. But how about the economical consequences and the tens of thousands Russian soldiers who died and tens of thousands soldiers wounded and crippled for life..... How about the NATO being much more powerful and united against Putin ???? Putin will claim victory but who will be fooled by one more lie coming out of the mouth of a criminal???????

    • @TheMattj88
      @TheMattj88 Před rokem +13

      “Former” 😂😂

    • @RiaSwiftHealing
      @RiaSwiftHealing Před rokem +2

      @@georgiypotulov23 Felt exactly the opposite about him. Put perceptions ate based on our unexposed reality, not truth.

  • @Jayden-qq1ei
    @Jayden-qq1ei Před 11 dny

    this is a difficult discussion and thanks for doing this podcast!

  • @jackgoodwin1615
    @jackgoodwin1615 Před 2 měsíci +6

    I feel like this guy is being as truthful as he can

  • @marksutherlandjr.2121
    @marksutherlandjr.2121 Před 6 měsíci +564

    Snowden is literally the definition of doing the right thing in the face of incredible adversity. 👏

    • @iancrawford7655
      @iancrawford7655 Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah bull shit Snowden is in Russia rn with US secrets Snowden did the right thing the wrong way he tried to leverage info to get sanctuary and although it worked he's fucked later if we ever captured a Russian with info we would just trade lmao

    • @jennifermommy9373
      @jennifermommy9373 Před 5 měsíci +9

      What Snowden did was brave and people needed to know but the execution of getting the info out was sloppy. The news "blacked" out information but you could still see the info. Snowden should be in America living free but the way the release was handled put "American assets" at risk.

    • @reecie44
      @reecie44 Před 5 měsíci

      @@jennifermommy9373o

    • @moodybugg-2098
      @moodybugg-2098 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Snowden is controlled opposition. 100%. Do you really think we would have had such mainstream coverage on him. Although they portrayed it as negative. He was getting paid for an acting gig.. what does he care. Snowden is a made for TV character. Period. If they didn't want us to hear Snowden, WE'D NEVER KNOW . We only see and hear what They want us to see & hear. I can't believe grown men and women haven't ALL figured this out. It's so ridiculous, the amount of SHIT people believe if heard on the news. Like the moon landing 6

    • @WhoWannaKw
      @WhoWannaKw Před 5 měsíci +3

      ​@@moodybugg-2098
      I Definately believe that. There is No Snowden altho there Was an entity tht Was a Whistle Blower... on tht subject. The character portrayed is a job for an actor possibly living out of country but is more likely some merman embedded in a community who never is in the general public as a norm... Or whatever.
      The Original Snowden carries a different name and in my opinion is still working for some part of the behind the scenes "good" military & is protected by a different identity in return for his work. And I Also think he lives here in the US. While the made for TV version is exactly what you described.
      Lk I sd... it's my gut opinion but I honestly feel alot of ppl out there feel the same.
      Sending 💌
      Love 💖Light ✨️ &
      Blessings ✝️
      Take Care

  • @brandonb.9288
    @brandonb.9288 Před 6 měsíci +461

    This dude is nuts! His whole world view is scary, and that's why the intelligence community is so dangerous.

    • @rebeccab.2270
      @rebeccab.2270 Před 6 měsíci +29

      Finally some not worshiping this spy. As if he might not be telling the truth on.

    • @richy2258
      @richy2258 Před 5 měsíci +23

      @@rebeccab.2270people believed it like the gospel at the time. They worship Rogan and Fridman, etc.
      He could not have been more wrong. What a dangerous putz.

    • @dickface9157
      @dickface9157 Před 5 měsíci

      Right off the bat we learn: Mossad(Israel) will do anything. The CIA are competing for "business" with their "customer"(president) and Trump was a problem because he wasn't interested in the CIAs stock and trade of dirty tricks, so the CIA started going against the president.

    • @rdxdarckstar
      @rdxdarckstar Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@richy2258explain your point

    • @chrisknepper5153
      @chrisknepper5153 Před 5 měsíci +19

      Often time the things we want to be true so badly are absolutely wrong. To the point of disbelieving reality. I am not sure which part you don’t like about what this guy is saying. However, “Russia is winning” is true.
      He is right about Americans not understanding the implications of freedom of speech.
      He is right about the lend lease act.
      He is objectively right about many things that I don’t personally like to hear.

  • @TheMATHEHOUSE
    @TheMATHEHOUSE Před měsícem

    Absolutetly love the timestamps!

  • @user-bg8ji1xf9u
    @user-bg8ji1xf9u Před měsícem +1

    This has been a wonderful Communion !

  • @gudonixasvaidonixas1009
    @gudonixasvaidonixas1009 Před rokem +85

    Watching this video 7 months after release and laughing,becouse all his predictions was worthless

    • @lincolnchains3731
      @lincolnchains3731 Před rokem +14

      Same here. Eight months later 😂

    • @619ry7
      @619ry7 Před rokem +5

      Predictions can be wrong no one knows the future. Apart from those prediction he was spot on

    • @durrer9038
      @durrer9038 Před rokem +2

      I know right?! 😂

    • @hblee88
      @hblee88 Před rokem

      Even Edgar Cayce didn't predict this right...!

    • @allthingsminifig9263
      @allthingsminifig9263 Před rokem +2

      He was a spy, not a war expert, what did you expect

  • @mattingly8322
    @mattingly8322 Před rokem +1197

    This dude is still an active operator. His defense of the NSA is ludicrous.

    • @veprk8662
      @veprk8662 Před rokem +116

      I skipped most interview but glad the bs is getting calles out

    • @mattingly8322
      @mattingly8322 Před rokem +157

      @@veprk8662 it's a great interview and he is obviously a very talented intelligent human but he just is so un trust worthy. He basically tells the listener to not trust him

    • @simbareps682
      @simbareps682 Před rokem

      Came here just to say this. His take on Snowden was ridiculous. This motherfucker was planted on this show lol

    • @caseyleonard1327
      @caseyleonard1327 Před rokem +64

      Lex's handler

    • @raceeverythinga1326
      @raceeverythinga1326 Před rokem +19

      @@jamiewoodstock1006 they absolutely would.

  • @markminister2599
    @markminister2599 Před 4 dny +1

    Brilliant Interview. People are lucky to listen to this.

  • @maxdog1299
    @maxdog1299 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Wow!! Self respect man
    What a great person

  • @iiii4024
    @iiii4024 Před rokem +1677

    Don’t trust a guy that defends national surveillance. Especially when he says those that care about privacy are a threat & shouldn’t have a say in the topic. “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety”~ Ben Franklin

    • @trinydex
      @trinydex Před rokem +70

      people always say this, but how realistic is it when your peer competitors don't do that? when they don't have to be restrained? especially since the actual real damage to the populace from these surveillance programs is actually close to 0.
      can I ask you when the last time government surveillance negatively affected your life? meta data collected was used against you?

    • @dmc6262
      @dmc6262 Před rokem +50

      Just because Mr Franklin said it, doesn't make it true or at least true all the time. That quote is parroted out ad nauseam without much thought. Second, just because someone disagrees with the refrain, doesn't necessarily make them untrustworthy.

    • @incredible5587
      @incredible5587 Před rokem +32

      he also said the president is the number one customer. that was just weird.

    • @iiii4024
      @iiii4024 Před rokem +78

      @@trinydex I’m pro life & have had multiple friends of mine approached by FBI due to their political beliefs
      One because he was pro life and another because he posted a meme about Jan 6th. It does have real world effects

    • @trinydex
      @trinydex Před rokem +52

      your friend got a visit for posting a meme, on the internet I presume. that has nothing to do with these clandestine programs. that's called open source intelligence.
      your other friend who is pro life didn't get a visit just because they were pro life.

  • @loganontherun
    @loganontherun Před rokem +736

    Found Lex when he was on Rogan's podcast and can say this is now my #1 watched/listen too thing on the internet. Amazing questions and calmness can have me listening for hours

  • @kingrobbo4054
    @kingrobbo4054 Před 14 dny

    Man Andrew is a smart dude. . He makes a lot of sense, he doesnt just speak clearly & logically, he speaks so you really understand his point of view.

  • @eldjmasterfreddy4366
    @eldjmasterfreddy4366 Před měsícem +3

    Great Interview.

  • @jamesd1106
    @jamesd1106 Před rokem +365

    This guy is a perfect representative of the u.s "government".. 20% true 80% I'm looking you in the eye and just believe what I say.

    • @DBFIU
      @DBFIU Před rokem +22

      Show me on the doll where Andrew hurt you

    • @voiceofsilencio
      @voiceofsilencio Před rokem +17

      Every good lie has to include some measure of truth.

    • @jamesd1106
      @jamesd1106 Před rokem +2

      @@DBFIU HA!!

    • @Patriots316
      @Patriots316 Před rokem +27

      I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing this...

    • @yunggoosbumps215
      @yunggoosbumps215 Před rokem +3

      Don't be shocked to find out that the CIA PR agent has the CIA bots in the comments designed by AI to present a group of people who actually believe his BS.

  • @Truth_Hurts528
    @Truth_Hurts528 Před rokem +213

    Yes the NSA is focused only on threats to national security. Except their idea of national security is protecting their power not the security of American citizens. Any American citizen who threatens their power is considered a "national Security" threat. Even if that citizen is democratically elected representative.

    • @Zultzify
      @Zultzify Před rokem

      What elected officials did they do that to

    • @BridgeportIPA
      @BridgeportIPA Před rokem

      @@Zultzify Pay attention, clown. And have somebody change your diapers.

    • @JC06NJ
      @JC06NJ Před rokem

      Yes, any American that threatens the power our goverment holds will be considered a national security because ot can fuck infrastructure up. How is that a hard thing to understand?

    • @StaalBurgher0
      @StaalBurgher0 Před rokem

      ​@@Zultzify Dont be an idiot, it is public court record that the FBI withheld evidence from the FISA could to wiretap a presidential candidate. The same FBI that raided that person this week.

    • @vladimirofsvalbard9477
      @vladimirofsvalbard9477 Před rokem +13

      @@Zultzify No idea, but I think one of them lives in Florida at Mar-a-Lago.

  • @ngolinyirenda6421
    @ngolinyirenda6421 Před měsícem

    To me, one of the most absolutely essential terms in describing and recounting analytical thinking is 'empirical'. There has been an acceptance of parroting and personal, emotionally based, AND biased opinion being taken as truthful and factual. I admire his narrative and delivery.

  • @kevin-zd4po
    @kevin-zd4po Před měsícem +4

    Great show one of the best four hours of my life

  • @ke8739
    @ke8739 Před rokem +842

    Well played Lex, we finally got to the ultimate Turing test, can a covert CIA agent spot a covert AI.
    You won't fool me, R2D2

    • @Sl33zytheclown
      @Sl33zytheclown Před rokem +1

      This exactly. This "agent" is an obvious disinfo. Plant. He's full of it. And when he find out how corrupt the see. I. A. really is. He'll just say well my upper ups.misled me. What a waste of podcast.

    • @AlexanderJamesHurley
      @AlexanderJamesHurley Před rokem +36

      Who is who though, really? Results may be shocking.

    • @alexisjuillard4816
      @alexisjuillard4816 Před rokem +10

      all answers can be found if you watch "this is my conversation with a goose. or is it a duck?" podcast
      best 2 minutes i ever watched, felt like 2h, fascinating

    • @alexoolau
      @alexoolau Před rokem +1

      CIA agents motivated to make trouble around world in order to keep their jobs. Now I understand. No difference from military industrial complexes. These people shape our international politics, which is quite dangerous.

    • @yunggoosbumps215
      @yunggoosbumps215 Před rokem +1

      Don't be shocked to find out that the CIA PR agent has the CIA bots in the comments designed by AI to present a group of people who actually believe his BS.

  • @theoldtimelinexxx453
    @theoldtimelinexxx453 Před 3 měsíci +106

    Crazy how autoplay when I fall asleep this video ends up playing.

    • @jcv2020
      @jcv2020 Před 2 měsíci +9

      So trippy. I woke up to this video today

    • @fuzzbang
      @fuzzbang Před 2 měsíci +14

      Same. Over and over again

    • @Unclemeldrick
      @Unclemeldrick Před 2 měsíci +3

      This one and the one with Paul Rosolie. My dream alters when Paul describes the Amazon jungle and what contains in there such as deadly animals and tribespeople etc

    • @patricebeebe6179
      @patricebeebe6179 Před 2 měsíci +6

      And this interview was almost 4 hours long and an ad never interrupted it?! Yeah. Ok.

    • @larryrapshaw8405
      @larryrapshaw8405 Před měsícem +4

      Same

  • @mrsaturn1792
    @mrsaturn1792 Před měsícem +2

    Red flag right away, an interview with a CIA agent lol

  • @photoman123456
    @photoman123456 Před měsícem +2

    the reality a year after the interview is somewhat different from the predictions in the video

  • @AaronDaley117
    @AaronDaley117 Před rokem +675

    Love how he went complete poker face with the JFK questions and the drug questions. I'm betting Bustamante is 100% still in the CIA.

    • @RyanWbjj170
      @RyanWbjj170 Před rokem +68

      100%

    • @lobes117
      @lobes117 Před rokem +65

      Exactly, there's no way he's not still in the alphabet institution.

    • @tbrech8625
      @tbrech8625 Před rokem +27

      I’m actually liking Bustamante a bit. 🥸

    • @VincentCVazquez
      @VincentCVazquez Před rokem +45

      Doubt he’d put his face out there on a podcast with millions of viewers if he still works as an operator

    • @otisjacksonjunior9795
      @otisjacksonjunior9795 Před rokem +68

      When he claimed ignorance about the drug stuff with Seale & Bush I got a strong lying vibe.

  • @uasiddiq
    @uasiddiq Před rokem +531

    Andrew was mostly consistent except when he said he was okay with a surveillance state without the permission of Congress...
    "I'm okay with the NSA having all my passwords for that safety." He kept speaking of empirical evidence. There's no empirical evidence that the mass surveillance saved any lives and that the mass surveillance would have stopped previous attacks like 9/11. Snowden may be a blip, but his reasoning was far more sound than the way Andrew made it seem in this interview.

    • @elevenpsy
      @elevenpsy Před rokem

      It is Andrew’s job to talk Snowden down like he was a “blip” and nothing more. This is a PR campaign for the CIA.

    • @traceyjohnson7521
      @traceyjohnson7521 Před rokem +28

      Agreed.

    • @ErnestCarroll
      @ErnestCarroll Před rokem +16

      He was speaking of “empirical” evidence

    • @jakeedwards1668
      @jakeedwards1668 Před rokem +6

      Good point lad

    • @neptunejoo
      @neptunejoo Před rokem

      Agreed. The more I hear him talking the more I am convinced the CIA is an evil organisation as a whole.

  • @kylearnett192
    @kylearnett192 Před 2 měsíci

    Sounds good... Just go with the flow... Provide what needs provided

  • @JesseWaldorf
    @JesseWaldorf Před 2 měsíci +1

    Please have this guy back! I want to hear what his take is now?

  • @thomassen_thomas
    @thomassen_thomas Před 9 měsíci +80

    Snowden also tried to run to US allies, but here in Norway the pressure was to great to deny asylum. The truth is that few countries were brave enough to accept him.

    • @nicholaslawrence3379
      @nicholaslawrence3379 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Right? Doing that to me seems like a quick way to get seal team 6'd

    • @PeterGozinyaTV
      @PeterGozinyaTV Před 6 měsíci +2

      💯👍🏼

    • @alexobed4252
      @alexobed4252 Před 5 měsíci

      Because all these countries are beholden to the United States!

    • @elonif4125
      @elonif4125 Před 2 měsíci +1

      True. Its pretty simple: countries that have positive relationships with the US won’t risk those by giving asylum to an supposed „enemy of the state“, so of course he had to flee to countries which are enemies of the US.

  • @bstlang
    @bstlang Před rokem +65

    The way this dude played Lex in the first two hours to establish rapport was astounding. 100% still in the CIA.

    • @johnlee-kz9vo
      @johnlee-kz9vo Před rokem +3

      I think Lex let him in..Lex is NO FOOL....

    • @ZorexZockt
      @ZorexZockt Před rokem +1

      @@johnlee-kz9vo exactly, Lex wants US to make an opinion

    • @thomasleach6577
      @thomasleach6577 Před rokem

      @@johnlee-kz9vo yes. Yes, he is a fool

    • @nedhill1242
      @nedhill1242 Před rokem

      @@johnlee-kz9vo
      Lex is not a fool but on occasion he does fanboy and he does make a fool of himself. He makes a fool of himself sometimes the way he’s incredibly biased about the Ukraine and watch the interview with Rick Rubin. It was ridiculous. He fanboyed through the whole interview. There weee a ton of comments by people that were disappointed in the way he was gushing all over Rubin.

  • @milakowalski4539
    @milakowalski4539 Před měsícem +2

    Andrew is realy smart, loved it.

    • @tristanphillips7275
      @tristanphillips7275 Před 6 dny

      He may be smart.
      But he’s either completely naive or he’s intentionally betraying the trust of the American people by purposefully misrepresenting what intel agencies have done and continue to do.

  • @davidmckayii752
    @davidmckayii752 Před měsícem

    Great and educational podcast, if u want an inside and discretionary view of intelligence agency, it's good.

  • @mariocamara3171
    @mariocamara3171 Před rokem +63

    I have lived 18 years in the UAE. His comment about Snowden was a red flag. His praise about the UAE Police State to solve a fender bender was the nail in the coffin. His credibility is ZERO. I call BS!

    • @pozloadescobar
      @pozloadescobar Před rokem

      He couldn't be more nakedly obsessed with totalitarianism. If there's ever a war in the US, this guy will go full Hans Landa

    • @andrewkuoppala3925
      @andrewkuoppala3925 Před rokem

      he is an institutionalized thug all the way. these types are responsible for ALL evil in the world. his charm does not fool me one bit.

    • @Brandonmehrabi
      @Brandonmehrabi Před rokem

      I enjoyed and felt trust until trust of the police state. How many times do we know of where they abused that power within the USA in just the last 10 years. Hell look at since trump got elected. The state Intel agencies with their msm have been sitting on the scales so obviously. We know because if you investigate any suspected false flag, lie or fabrication long enough you will either not find enough evidence it is beyond any doubt true....or 1. you will not find enough evidence to prove anything definitively or 2. You will find the evidence that shows there is a fabrication such as architects& engineers for truth of. 9/11, as well as the simultaneous collapse of building 7 in the same way which are mathematical impossible. Or JFK & rfk both.got shot from both sides yet the official conclusion of the government say for both Kennedy's that it was a lone gunman. This evidence doesn't prove anything except that we don't know what really happened. If the government agreed that.this evidence leaves the investigaton unsolved it would be more understandable than their insistence that these cases are 100% solved & we must accept their conclusions. How the help do you trust that?

    • @jpcolindesign517
      @jpcolindesign517 Před rokem

      Yes, because all people who defend the USA end up in Moscow. "Red Flag"? Are you serious? I worked in the NSA. Snowden's nonsense was a load of lies.

  • @ZoroNZara
    @ZoroNZara Před rokem +287

    Nothing like Lex interviewing an Ex CIA agent playing in the background while I sleep. Such a weirdly comforting episode 🤣

    • @anthonygregory5150
      @anthonygregory5150 Před rokem +4

      Same

    • @peacedreamerable
      @peacedreamerable Před rokem +3

      I usually fall to sleep listening to Richie Allen Show , but have a new go to for his nights off ,had the amazon guy on first , yes strangely comforting

    • @cathyedwards3861
      @cathyedwards3861 Před rokem +6

      I thought I was all alone in my "weirdness"!!! LOL

    • @aSSGoblin1488
      @aSSGoblin1488 Před rokem +1

      yeah maybe a little half lie here and there, while you sleep. ukraine being indebted to america, sure yeah. but the terms of that debt is so generous. 20 years until first payment and no interest accumulated??? that is more of a grant rather than a LOOMING DEBT. and obviously ukranians would prefer debt rather than war and conquest.

    • @LosVanGhost
      @LosVanGhost Před rokem +2

      I did the same unknowingly. 👍🏽

  • @breevas5085
    @breevas5085 Před měsícem +1

    I love that, doubling down on the things you are good at and not doing the things that you Aren’t. This might have been a fit for me if life had played out that way. You are awesome Andrew!

  • @anuragsinha2013
    @anuragsinha2013 Před měsícem +1

    I like that wherever this guy Andrew Bustamante goes, he's able to convince no one about his organisation, no one believes him atleast in the comment section.

  • @disruptIT
    @disruptIT Před rokem +517

    I have even less trust in the CIA, NSA, FBI etc.. after this. Good Interview.

    • @cupofsadge8359
      @cupofsadge8359 Před rokem +59

      When someone leaves the "Clowns in America" they dont actually leave. They will always be a clown even if not officially on paper. I dream of the day JFK's vision of dissolving them comes true. The small amount of job loss is economically negligible and the benefit to citizens worldwide enormous.

    • @interesting7906
      @interesting7906 Před rokem +1

      @@cupofsadge8359 The clown hairdo is in full display lol... Can you imagine having this guy as a colleague?..making meetings longer with horsesh*t arguments. His prospective on the world is just as expected. Unfortunately, Lex seems to also be a clown man.

    • @arkology_city
      @arkology_city Před rokem +80

      Same. This guy was chosen by the agency to do this show as a PR campaign. They know their reputation has never been lower, and rightfully so.

    • @dirtbagdover1591
      @dirtbagdover1591 Před rokem

      spot on. andrew bustamante's is %100 a shill for the intelligence community. The fact he is ignorant to the intelligence branch of govt. being weaponized via politicians makes me doubt how smart he is or if he ever "left"..

    • @execthegaming
      @execthegaming Před rokem +17

      Yeah, this guy seemed affable enough, but he's a dyed-in-the-wool fed.
      At least when you look at Mike Baker, you know what he is.

  • @JCOwens-zq6fd
    @JCOwens-zq6fd Před rokem +602

    This guy has been trained well that's for sure. He delivered all of that like a pro. Almost no signs of deception or anything....almost.

    • @chantzarcher4807
      @chantzarcher4807 Před rokem

      As if you can really believe anything this guy says….he is from the govt…..or at least just an actor for the govt….saying scripted shit in a convincing way

    • @LaRoucheisright
      @LaRoucheisright Před rokem +30

      You're referring to Fridman right?

    • @yqisq6966
      @yqisq6966 Před rokem

      Yep real masters of deception always hide lies within the truth ;)

    • @TheFreddieFoo
      @TheFreddieFoo Před rokem +40

      yeah yeah, you're an expert at spotting spies! you must be a child prodigy too! Can you enlighten us how you figured it all out, what are the tells??

    • @thegizmologist8325
      @thegizmologist8325 Před rokem

      @@TheFreddieFoo The fact that he's a commie and from the CIA.

  • @kirstenbrogan5958
    @kirstenbrogan5958 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Enjpy the interviewsc Lex, it's nice to see more of your humerus side.

  • @Blue_Gourami
    @Blue_Gourami Před měsícem

    Can confirm, first few days of basic training are like shell shock, then when you leave basic training it’s like leaving a second home.

  • @ToriZealot
    @ToriZealot Před rokem +407

    Looking at Assange, it seems a wise decision for Snowden to go to a "enemy state"

    • @conradthediscoviking
      @conradthediscoviking Před rokem +30

      Sad but true 😔

    • @robertjulesyoung9994
      @robertjulesyoung9994 Před rokem +56

      this guy wouldn't be able to even breath without permission. this podcast is bs.

    • @lars337
      @lars337 Před rokem +20

      also, he asked for asylum in germany but was denied. that is the real sad thing.

    • @chito127
      @chito127 Před rokem +25

      @@robertjulesyoung9994 It may be a recruitment outreach for the CIA. Bustament is really sharp.

    • @stereoreviewx
      @stereoreviewx Před rokem +8

      Snowden is not in a maximum security prison why because he’s in Russia what would you do the answer is obvious

  • @JoshMckinneyShow
    @JoshMckinneyShow Před rokem +977

    There's something I don't quite trust about Andrew. He seemed really sharp and I was loving his dispassionate analysis of situations but as the podcast went on, I began trusting him less and less. So many questions Lex asked, didn't really get answered, and his opinion on NSA mass surveillance and the need for us to feel safe are major red flags.

    • @ZorexZockt
      @ZorexZockt Před rokem +212

      Clearly part of CIAs PR department

    • @andrewgusak123ua
      @andrewgusak123ua Před rokem +105

      The whole Ukraine segment on his part was a total bs.

    • @pwilliams3600
      @pwilliams3600 Před rokem

      Exactly. His NSA defense was...something. We are seeing in real time what an out of control FBI, DOJ and likely NSA can do. It doesn't require a whole new "secret police, secret court", etc. This guy is either a fanboi or part of the PR effort.

    • @mofayer
      @mofayer Před rokem

      @@andrewgusak123ua are you aware of your obvious bias given you have UA in name and UA flag? because if you did you would've known that your opinion on this matter is worth nothing.

    • @dimebucker2
      @dimebucker2 Před rokem +49

      I had exactly the same feeling

  • @stevefarrugia-dc7qt
    @stevefarrugia-dc7qt Před měsícem +3

    Lex Fridman, one year later, is Ukraine winning ?

  • @glion7792
    @glion7792 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The way the government has gone after Jan 6, protesters makes me disbelieve what he said regarding NIA- other than that - I like this guy and will checkout his podcast- it’s the “perspective” part that got me hooked.

  • @grantwalkersound
    @grantwalkersound Před rokem +554

    Let me first say I found Andrew fascinating and agreed with a lot of his perspectives... except one... Andrew's argument on surveillance... His value proposition is that safety is more valuable than maintaining constitutional rights. This is where I (and many citizens) would disagree... To me... The whole point of having a military and intelligence apparatus is to protect not just the physical safety of the citizens of this country, but also to protect their rights. Most soldiers I know will talk that way... They're fighting for the rights of US citizens. We send men and women to die with that mentality. So clearly we believe as a nation that it's worth sacrificing lives to protect. Mass surveillance was itself a direct attack on the 4th amendment right of every US citizen. To me that's just as bad as physically attacking US citizens. It's for the same reason that Andrew said the US sees foreign data collection as a hostile offense. I'd argue it's worth the risk of missing another major attack on the US if it meant maintaining our basic rights as citizens... First of all, it's not like they don't have 1,000 other tools at their disposal. I'm ok with it being a little harder for them to do their jobs. Because at the end of the day... Without rights, what the hell is there to even protect?

    • @kangsun201
      @kangsun201 Před rokem +49

      I couldn't agree more.

    • @CollinRapp33
      @CollinRapp33 Před rokem +12

      I agree with you in terms of values, but I think you misunderstood his point. He wasn’t stating that he values safety more than rights; he was stating that the UAE value safety more than rights because their situation is different than that of the US. Like you said, in the US, it’s a discussion of whether to give up rights to prevent another major attack, and I agree that it’s probably not worth the cost; but from the sound of it, in the UAE, the discussion is perhaps whether to give up rights to prevent many major attacks (basing this on what he said, not my own knowledge).
      I just thought this was a useful distinction.
      It’s important to remember that the situation in the US could change, which warrants continual conversation around such topics, such as the evolving conversation around gun control. And it’s important to remember that there’s a false dichotomy to avoid here. Certain policies and technologies can be adopted or disallowed to meet specific goals. It’s not like our choice is “surveillance state” or “non-surveillance state.”
      But like Andrew said, hopefully the US won’t reach a point at which we’d have to consider reevaluating our priorities on this matter.

    • @zbigniewiksinski
      @zbigniewiksinski Před rokem

      youre wrong. "values" are for regular people, in hight stakes politics and/or attacks, criminal/terrorist groups etc there are none

    • @lancer8830
      @lancer8830 Před rokem +30

      The ends always seem to justify the means when it comes to the gov’t controlling the people instead of being controlled by them

    • @williamgill5286
      @williamgill5286 Před rokem +49

      "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."-Benjamin Franklin
      We are going to find that out the hard way if it continues unchecked

  • @Oni_Shinobi_JiuJitsu
    @Oni_Shinobi_JiuJitsu Před rokem +24

    His point of view on secrecy is exactly what I would expect to hear from a CIA operative

    • @duganrocks100
      @duganrocks100 Před rokem +1

      Makes no sense lmao. Bias as hell. Seems like a smart guy though

  • @timketcham9139
    @timketcham9139 Před měsícem +1

    Oh my gosh, Ruby ridge, January 6ers. Knowing that you were in that system and denying that it is used to suppress opponents of the state leads me to believe you are still subject to them.

  • @funkmanone
    @funkmanone Před 2 měsíci +2

    What a good little boy. I hope they gave him a treat

  • @solefood7477
    @solefood7477 Před rokem +49

    This dude is definitely deeply engrained with his service to this country. It has him with some heavy blinders on. Definitely makes you realize you can't trust anyone in the government

    • @highestpariah
      @highestpariah Před rokem +10

      I mean... he has every eyeball in the CIA and shadow govt watching what he says. You wouldn’t talk shit either lmao

    • @alexbrewer3675
      @alexbrewer3675 Před rokem +7

      His service to the CIA, not the country.

    • @solefood7477
      @solefood7477 Před rokem +5

      @@highestpariah true. Just seems like a decent guy at the core but the more he talks the more I see he's been compromised and won't ever see things any other way.

    • @highestpariah
      @highestpariah Před rokem +4

      @@solefood7477 Absolutely he seems like a good guy and I’m sure he would treat anyone who came into his home with the utmost hospitality and respect - none of that changes the huge bloody skid marks that the CIA has left on our country.

    • @Jay_in_Japan
      @Jay_in_Japan Před rokem

      @@alexbrewer3675 country, actually

  • @isuckatgaming7225
    @isuckatgaming7225 Před rokem +460

    I remember Lex and Joe talking and asking themselves if an agent ever came on their podcast to do the propaganda.... Well, here is your answer..

    • @yunggoosbumps215
      @yunggoosbumps215 Před rokem

      Don't be shocked to find out that the CIA PR agent has the CIA bots in the comments designed by AI to present a group of people who actually believe his BS.

    • @rebeccabode8764
      @rebeccabode8764 Před rokem +17

      I was thinking that too. he was verrrry good though...

    • @vani3335
      @vani3335 Před rokem +9

      Haha propaganda 😆
      Such a dismissive word from someone who wishes Russia would fall. LONG LIVE RUSSIA 🇷🇺 ✊✊✊✊

    • @vani3335
      @vani3335 Před rokem +16

      @@paulbarclay4114 80% of Russians agree with Russia and their power moves. I know first hand from speaking with people who actually lived in Russia and were born there! Whatever NATO country you're from has you super fooled.

    • @vani3335
      @vani3335 Před rokem +10

      @@paulbarclay4114 I really em talking to the wrong person. Wake tf up! Talk to real russians and not NATO based mfers

  • @BeachGuyDave
    @BeachGuyDave Před 29 dny +1

    If I could ask Andrew one question, it would be, is he the top of the top? Or are there CIA agents that will blow him out of the water in terms of their craft and their intelligence?

  • @jessebarnett7608
    @jessebarnett7608 Před 2 měsíci +1

    He has popped lex’s bubble hard

  • @R0undbrush
    @R0undbrush Před rokem +522

    I love how he talks about the world letting ukraine, hong kong, and Afghanistan fall. But he fails to mention all the nations the cia intentionally destabilized in south america

    • @ExcavatorPro2020
      @ExcavatorPro2020 Před rokem +134

      this dude is basically like someone from the CIA hr department who they allow to spill generic info about them.. literally EVERYTHING he says and talks about can be learned by any civilian

    • @SillyLittleAshTree
      @SillyLittleAshTree Před rokem

      His information about those three places is basically mental malware.
      There were no deaths in Hong Kong carried by the police, only by the protestors themselves, and luckily it is all on camera with ample context which is why I know is true.
      And, Ukraine is basically natzee central. Stepan Bandera is practically a deified martyr in Ukraine.
      🙄

    • @cmonz9
      @cmonz9 Před rokem

      and he’s fully for NSA spying on everyone like the government wont grow even more intrusive and over-each like it inherently always does.

    • @samaelbravo3692
      @samaelbravo3692 Před rokem

      @Grayble's Gringus is the cia mostly white

    • @panama2468
      @panama2468 Před rokem

      @Grayble's Gringus exactly. Another token as a spokesperson for the agency. They arent going give a nonwhite person deep dark secrets.

  • @fighterpilot1112
    @fighterpilot1112 Před rokem +794

    This dudes stance on surveillance is exactly what I'd expect from a dude from the government. I could not trust him less

    • @alteredcatscyprus
      @alteredcatscyprus Před rokem +50

      No wonder we have problems, is what I was thinking. These guys are way out of line.

    • @TheSassygrasshopper
      @TheSassygrasshopper Před rokem +54

      Glad I'm not the only one yall this guy glows so bright I'm getting a tan...

    • @fighterpilot1112
      @fighterpilot1112 Před rokem +39

      @@TheSassygrasshopper he's so good at lying and blending in, yet every single person that watched this interview saw right through him. Including Lex😂

    • @wallrider73
      @wallrider73 Před rokem +56

      Some of his stuff is interesting but he was delivering his fair share of propaganda here. Lex wasn’t convinced.

    • @fburton8
      @fburton8 Před rokem +13

      I think he was saying that Ignorance is Strength. (The ignorance of the masses, of course.)

  • @galinaverbitsky9357
    @galinaverbitsky9357 Před 19 dny +1

    Thanks Lex Fridman Very interesting

  • @shutincharlie3461
    @shutincharlie3461 Před 21 dnem

    Interesting to watch this now!!

    • @tistelnilsson
      @tistelnilsson Před 20 dny

      He was obviously not correct about Ukraine when the interview was done.

  • @michaelrhodes258
    @michaelrhodes258 Před rokem +105

    Problem is some of NSA and CIA individuals view the bill of rights as a threat to national security.

    • @iiii4024
      @iiii4024 Před rokem +6

      Exactly

    • @trinydex
      @trinydex Před rokem +3

      everything is a balance. freedom is very much the opposite of security. no one should say we don't need one or the other. there's a balance.

    • @liamlynch2115
      @liamlynch2115 Před rokem +5

      Seems you can count this fella in on that list given his thoughts on Snowden.

    • @cdiers26
      @cdiers26 Před rokem +5

      @@trinydex thats completely illogical. History teaches us quite the opposite in fact! Those who'd prefer security to freedom deserve neither! I find my security within my liberties because I am competent and capable just like the majority of Americans are as individuals. The more freedom I have the more security I can create for myself. The opposite is only true for the most downtrodden and unlikeable. People who can't support themselves and have no one willing to be charitable to them. A charitable person could give a homeless person 2 dollars, but if we expect the gov to support them 1- 1.75 is lost to corruption and inefficiency. Similar effects hold true outside of financial security. My firearms are far more likely to protect me than the ones carried by police in my own home! My ability to participate in whatever market I chose, communicate with who I like, ect. The opposite is only ever true for the lowest common denominator. Those LCDs make up the headlines that make the politicians look bad, and that's why the gov treats us like babies. School shooters make up a fraction of a percent of total homicides but people are gung ho as a MF to create overarching policy centered around those disastrous statistical anomalies.

    • @trinydex
      @trinydex Před rokem

      @@cdiers26 you're actually historically wrong. for the majority of history, the benevolent dictator has provided more safety and more security for centuries worth of lives than unadulterated freedom. your example doesn't even pass the thought experimentals stage.
      there's lots of examples of modern government and even modern benevolent restrictive democracy (like Singapore and Israel), where the far majority of people enjoy great quality of life and enjoy limited liberties that enrich their lives all while maintaining great safety for their countrymen.
      I'm not saying America should shift to tyranny, I am saying that there are strategic concessions that have to be made by every country (that will be made regardless of how much noise you make) and the typical American response to such basic military and intelligence needs is really unhelpful and borderline silly.
      let's not forget these intelligence techniques were used against the British in the revolutionary war. these techniques were used against both sides in the civil war, etc etc.
      blindly beating a drum of liberty should be getting pretty culturally fatigued.

  • @avienated
    @avienated Před rokem +89

    Bustamante is an extremely likable employee of the Cocaine Importation Agency and they should be so proud to have him.

    • @FazeParticles
      @FazeParticles Před rokem +4

      Of course. Why wouldn’t they be? lol 😆

    • @timontide6404
      @timontide6404 Před rokem +1

      Capitalism's Invisible Army. Christians In Action.

    • @avienated
      @avienated Před rokem

      @@timontide6404 Criminals In Action is good too, from the song C.I.A. by KRS One :)

  • @akbutte5442
    @akbutte5442 Před 11 dny

    This video is haunting my feed. It always pops up as the next video to auto play and I've gotta sit here for 30 minutes figuring out how to make that shot stop. Like why would it even do that anyway???