What Life Inside NASA’s Lunar Gateway Station Will Be Like!
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You know it would be cool is instead of just burning up iss, they could take useful parts off it and send it over to gateway. It just seems like a waste to burn up the whole iss.
Send it to Mars and let it orbit around the planet as an emergency lifeboat
But the technology is outdated
Ask Elon. I'm sure that he's already thought about it.
Great idea but the parts are pretty worn and not designed for the environment of the orbit around the moon. Plus parts like the solar panels were only the most advanced when they were made; they aren’t as efficient as newer ones that can work around the moon.
So the ISS can be like a “Motel 6” in space.
I just wish they could/would hurry up. I don't want them to make mistakes, but I do want to live to see it come to fruition!
Patience is a virtue.
Don't worry.
It won't.
It is so exciting to get updates on the Artemis missions. I was born twelve years after humanity landed on the moon the first time. I look forward to being part of history when we return and stay.
You were born in the future preytel when
Its great to see western agencies working together in building the next Space industry. ✌️
And hopefully some eastern ones like ISRO also.
"Spacewalk around the moon"..... wow, THAT is going to be soooo cool.
The sheer size of one or two Starships docked together in lunar orbit would offer many possibilities. Could Space X create their own private lunar station?
Maybe but for now they didn't plan any of that. I think they will stick to the launch provider role for the foreseeable future.
Starship needs to become a reliable rocket system as envisioned before anything like a Space X version of a space station is possible. That will be several years. We would be lucky to see Space X start such a SS before 2030.
I am sure that if it makes financial sense they will do it.
🥱 starship is not the ubiquitous solution to everything that SpaceX fanboys want us to think it is. It will have a limited, if any, impact on our long term space goals.
@@adub1300 That depends entirely on how well starship meets the vision laid out by Space X. If Starship can be made to be reusable and reliable it could be a game changer in several ways. The next year of testing will give some indication of starship's potential.
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A network of view screens need to be designed into each module to allow safe viewing of what is outside of each module. This could safely replace "windows" and still permit viewing of real time environment outside of the station. A central monitoring station could be networked to see each view as it is added to the station. Simply put, you replace windows with cameras and network the views into the station.
Very good idea. But I still think they need one real window. They are humans, not robots, I think they will go insane if they cannot actually look at their surroundings, at least occasionally. Ask anyone who has been on the ISS. And to be orbiting the moon and not be able to look at it? It's nuts.
At a minimum, yes.
They will have windows. Orion has windows and will be docked to Gateway while 2 astronauts are on the moon
@@BreezelyI mean geez Louise even a good VR headset with surround sound would help you escape the claustrophobic confines of the lunar gateway! I know they screen astronauts for psychological issues and that kind of thing but good grief it's such a tiny living space!
@@javierderivero9299true, but will Orion be oriented towards the moon or towards space during orbit? 😬
Thanks for the break down of the Artemis missions. I am looking forward to future updates. Why is it that NASA would design a space station that is so important but low on comfort? It seems like, in terms of comfort, that the Gateway should be an upgrade compared to the International Space Station. I know money is probably an issue but it is at the foundation of future exploration. Seems worth making our astronauts comfortable for such an endeavor.
The last module will have one. But several years before it's added.
Less so money and more so delivery complications. It takes a lot of energy to put something in lunar orbit. The more mass it has the harder it would be. The station also needs to fit within the fairing.
Except for the NASA Moon landings, all human crewed flights by every space program so far has been done in low earth orbit.
The Lunar Gateway is in deep space. That further distance reduces the amount of payload which can be sent requiring a more stripped down space station.
Won't matter. Hopefully the Gateway station will never be built, and if it is, it will be quickly superseded by either a Starship left in lunar orbit to do the same job, or by a station built to be launched on Superheavy, and much more capable than this.
@@bb1111116 tbh I personally still don't understand why don't just set up a base directly on the moon instead of messing around in orbit. With a proper robotic 3d printer they could make a place with a lot more space. I think they are just rushing to take advantage of the hype SpaceX is generating for mars but realistically an orbital base is just a wasted opportunity.
Great video! Keep up the good work!
Thank you for this video.
Once again an informative and non-biased segment! Thanks! Keep on going in the same manner.
Agreed. Disappointed it won't have windows. Seems like a step backwards considering the 1990 ISS had windows over 30 years earlier
@@lillyanneserrelio2187he said that they will get a module with windows later on. Considering that it will take them a week to orbit, they’d be able to see out of it for maybe a day or so max anyways. So I’d rather see a station orbiting the moon safely without a window if needed, plus I’m sure astronauts understand it better than any of us.
@@oleksii000 I'd rather have a vanity mirror so i can put on my makeup. I'll be the first human to apply makeup in zero G!
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Very interesting! I’ve seen it suggested that Gateway could serve as a quarantine facility for future sample return missions from Mars or other bodies. While the chances of living microbes may be small it’s best to be prudent!’
Like the intro!
Keeping my fingers crossed for the future
I love this idea
Amazing......
Capstone. Excellent name for a key component of this mission.
Interesting video and what’s the background music in the beginning of the video?
Love the cello music!
Hell yes
Succinct & informative.
Very well done.
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cool.b great to see this in action.
I'm surprised they limit the design for Falcon Heavy only. Starship has a 9 meter diameter! Surely they will use that huge space when it becomes available!
Starship has to prove itself a stable alternative first . It is never prudent to plan for using something like starship with no assurance that starship will be as effective a rocket as envisioned let alone WHEN it will be viable.
Having said that however, NASA is banking on BO to build its Lunar Landing system to be ready by the time Artemis 3 is ready for its human Lunar Landing mission. And Vulcan has relied on BO for its Be-4 main booster engine which was supposed to ready for the first test flight in 2020. As we all know, BO has not even got any rocket to LEO. So why do NASA and ULA put their faith in it?? A recent statement by Tori Bruno after a canceled test fire of Vulcan and it was returned to the tower for evaluation did not inspire much confidence when he said, "We gotta figure this thing out". 🙄
@@michaeldeierhoi4096If starship HLS is delay then how long is blue origin is going to take? Blue origin will take far longer to build their lunar lander than spacex. Blue origin hasn’t even sent a rocket to orbit yet while spacex has launched 234 falcon 9s into orbit successfully. New Glenn is still delayed while starship has had at least one test launched and we may see a other test launch in august or September.
@@TheAmericanCatholic It's uncertain what the answer is to your questions. I prefer to watch it all play out like a movie.
What is the point of only sending two people to the surface?
This is FANTASTIC news!!
Lol i genuinely had no idea about this as i spent the last two nights building a space station in space engineers literally smack between the earth and moon. Even used a mod to make earth a scale replica of our own.
That's awesome 👍. What software you're using?
Hi the space race that was a great 👍 video it will be great 👍 to have a new space station called the gateway I think 💭 we could do with more of the gateways to mars and beyond maybe one day but not in my life time great 👍 video thanks David 🚀👌❤️🇬🇧👍
The builders can place HD cameras to point towards the Lunar surface and towards Hearth.
No windows for years? How hard it could it be to just make a tiny bit of the hull transparant?!
Inflatable type modules ? For storage ect ?
Super ❤
Loved the video. I've noticed that you keep saying interstellar, not interplanetary. I don't know if this is a mistake or not, but just wanted to let you know.
Its about time! The sooner the better. Let's GO NASA. OF course let's go SPACEX , also
Mind bogaling !!
Only bad part of this video was, it wasn’t longer! Lol love this stuff, can’t get enough! More please!!
How can tell what is the music plaiing in the begining?
Will it be possible to expand it with more modules in the future?
I have a correction to make in the video:
At about 7:21 you refer to the lowest point in an orbit above the moon as the perigee. This is incorrect; a perigee refers only to the lowest point in an earth orbit. The lowest point in a general orbit of any celestial body is the periapsis. Similarly the highest point in an orbit of the moon is the apoapsis, not the apogee.
Fantastic news. Which crew is going to be doing the walks out of crew dragon
Sling shot. Let's goo 🎉
it's not about the speed. It's about controlling your red shift.
Since we’re not yet able to build a full rotating wheel type of space station. Could we not just build a special area where the crew sleeps that can extend then rotate to simulate earth gravity for the 6-8 hours when part of the crew sleeps. Keeping there bodies healthy with gravity on top of there daily workouts
There is a way to do it with tethered pods. Cheap, not technically prohibitive, and would have a massive positive impact on crew health. We've had the technical and engineering capability to do any number or rotating segments for over 50 years. The plans are on the books. Andy Weir talks about it some in the reference parts of The Martian. It's absurd NASA hasn't even tried.
Just imagined six years till the airlock module is delivered. 6 years and the technology will already become outdated. I'm pretty sure you could have a Starship refueled in orbit make the trip no problems.
Also, the gateway station could have exterior TV cameras relaying outside pictures to ASTRO, Cosmo, or Techno nautes. Exterior views.
When i did research on the Lunar Gateway, i found that the HALO is only 3 meters in diameter and 6.1 meters in length, and PPE is not much bigger.
For something so important to our future exploration of space, it seems to add some comfort to the gateway station. Like windows.
There are windows in Orion...while the astronauts are on the moon using the lunar lander the other astronauts (3 weeks or even a month) staying in Gateway can use Orion windows docked to gateway, once the duration extends to 6 months they will have Orion windows and the new module (2029-30) with windows
No windows!? That would be a deal breaker for me! Unless they had a camera or more with a monitor or maybe one or two that are placed at window or skylight positions so the view from the cameras would mimic a windows view, heck have a couple monitors look like window frames & then a resident could add "homemade" curtains, lol.
Pretty sure that they will have high res cameras though.
the modules of the Lunar Gateway has to be much bigger, atleast three times it's current size, as per the yet to be realized concept form . . .
Great stuff! I learned a lot. 😊
Hi Derek, don't forget to credit Scott Manley?
I like the analysis of Gateway...yes they won't have windows until 2029-2030....but Orion will be docked to Gateway, has windows...astronauts can use those windows during the time are living temporarily in Gateway
There is a typo in the opening title: Gatway instead of Gateway
Its finally happening, it took 50 years but its happening.
Will the first Artemis also have Gordon attached?
Project management team at aces Paul is working to develop stargate phone frequency for mobile devices
What happens if something happens to the gateway in the middle of the mission?
The first thing the Mercury astronauts wanted was a window. Astronauts need a window.
....don't take me wrong our major support and admiration to what you are working on rught now..., just wish we could be there..., don't know..., next year...
It's insane where we currently are. If you go back just a few decades ago, people would either call you crazy or would ask you whether your write science fiction. Solar panels, ion thrusters, gateway to the Moon for Moon colonization missions...Insane!
They still haven't learned that they need more storage area than living/working ares on space stations.
The easiest way to build the gateway station is to use multiple starships joined together and spin then to make artificial gravity.
A small point. It's misleading to cite the European Union (EU) as one of the major partner organisations. The actual participating organisation from Europe is the European Space Agency (ESA) not the EU . The ESA has 22 countries who are full members so not all EU countries directly participate (although since the EU is an associate member one could say that those non-full-member EU countries do still participate at least in terms of indirectly funding the ESA via the collective EU budget). Also 2 of the ESA full-member countries (Switzerland and the UK) are not EU member states, one being the 5th largest contributor to the ESA budget (the UK) .
No windows ? What about external video cameras?
Best part: we will have an robotic arm… for what? Not sure yet, but hey, this is so cool! ;)
damn, that intro
If they use the starship then the fuel tanke ar able to stor fuel as well
Long long way till 2030 we will see something recognisable
2:54 - Cygnus is pronounced "SIG-nus", not "sing-us"
I have a question about the near-rectilinear halo orbit (NRHO). It was chosen because it is more fuel efficient. But I don't really understand this. At first, I assumed this was due to a higher delta V budget, but then I realized that was probably referring to orbit maintenance. Since the moon effectively has no atmosphere (100 molecules per cubic centimetre), there wouldn't be a significant effect of atmospheric drag of any kind (unlike the minuscule, yet significant amount that happens to Earth satellites). Since there would be nothing to slow the satellite down, why would there be a need for orbit maintenance that would lead to a NRHO being more efficient than a low lunar orbit? The only thing I can possibly think of is the strange gravity discrepancies of the moon. Could someone please clarify this for me? FYI, I have only taken an intro course to orbital mechanics, so please don't be mean if I missed something very obvious :(
I'm a biology student so I have zero personal knowledge about orbital mechanics, BUT my dad works at Maxar on the PPE module AND has been working with his teams for a very long time to figure out how communications to the Lunar Gateway and Moon will work given orbital patterns and their quirks.
With what little knowledge I've gleaned from talking with him and watching the video, the issue isn't atmospheric resistance as much as it's the necessity of maintaining a constant line of sight to earth for communication purposes. Time-triggered Ethernet does exist, which could hold back on sending and receiving data until a line of sight is reestablished, but that's intended for use on Mars missions and shouldn't be necessary on the moon given our choice of orbital patterns.
The Moon has mascons(mass concentration) that interfere to orbiting object
Hopefully the SpaceX lander can be used multiple times. Bring it back to LEO, refuel it and send it back to Gateway for another run to the surface. Fill it with cargo and a rover. It can also be used a hab on the moon, lower it horizontal.
Why horizontal? The internal layout is vertical
Is Cygnus still considered the primary resupply vessel to ISS? Or has Dragon caught up yet?
It is still the main resupply vessel, it has even been launched on a falcon 9.
Why no windows?
A landing pad for the moon is required. That should at least include some radio beacon and or a mirror. There have now been two failed private landings or moon crashes.
Both Orion and human starship have windows
If NASA wasn’t so fast to hand out all those, “cost plus,” contracts, maybe Gateway would be more roomy and functional!
The British are making a communication relay satellite for the gateway station, to be placed half way.
A rectalinear orbit sounds like something you might use on Uranus 😂
And they can't utilize the SpaceX HLS once it has returned from the moon?
Love love love that this is going on. Big brains with vision vs throwing rocks. Thanks for visual and audio honey. ❤
NASA - to boldly go where plenty have gone already
That is a ton of shit that has to go right in an environment that is 100% out to kill any human being. Very bold. I'll tip my hat if nobody does get killed. And I'll pray that nothing bad happens.
At 8:51 "theories are only theories until you put them to test" should be "theories are just hypotheses until you put them to test". A hypothesis is an educated guess, a theory is supported by direct observation and mathematical analysis of such observations. Capstone will bridge the gap between hypothesis and theory.
Why is the orbit flying near the North pole of the moon if Artemis 3 is going to the South pole?
this is all great and good and excellent.... but NO FREKING WINDOWS
Thanks for the great breakdown, but why is a human rated space station going to not have freaking windows for so long??
That is not truly correct that the gateway will not have any windows. Every time there will be at least on Orion capsule connected to the station. And it would have windows. So astronauts could come there to see the moon views. And the same with lunar descend module.
Someone needs to make a video showing how it's in any way more efficient to go to Mars via the moon than direct.
Don't need big ass Rocket. Can send parts of mission on different rockets, not to forget gravity assist menuver from lunar orbit.(can do that without lunar gateway,but would need batter maths and software. Meaning more problems to adress.)
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Obviously they will use viewscreens instead of windows. Put a giant flatscreen against the wall, camera on the outside, no problem. Plus you can watch CZcams
Good luck surfing in the internet with 1.3 seconds of delay. Communication will be a challenge, because for decades nobody really required true real time communication this far out.
What is the reason for no windows?
radiation
Security protocol = Obfuscation. Mission control doesn't want to deal with reports of UFOs, UAPs, TLPs, CLBs (covert lunar bases), or observations of black-budget spacecraft that are in nearby orbits.
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Hot dog! I doubt I'll see mankind on Mars but for me, just a space station in lunar orbit sounds to fantastical to have dreamed of as a kid. I hope something important about it is named Luna-C, for the comedic effect.
Are the lack of windows to reduce amount of radiation entering the station?
I'd imagine it's less about that, and more because Northrop Grumman is modifying their cargo hauler to be the main module of the station. That never carries humans to the ISS, so it doesn't come with windows, and adding windows would demand a total structural redesign of the module.
Windows are opaque to UV radiation.
Thanks for this. You guys do a great job explicating space travel topics.
there will be 4 windows on the Artemis spacecraft looking down the whole station.
The name "I-HAB" is a massive missed opporunity... They should have named it "International Habitation Orbital Pod" or "I-HOP" for short.
Then we'd have I-HOP in space
No blackout period and if needed you’re always in view of earth Incase you need to leave in a hurry.