How NASA Plans To Get Astronauts Back From Mars!
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I witnessed the first human Moon landing in 1969. I'm not holding my breath to see any human land on Mars and return safely
@debbieanne7962, hello fellow baby boomer. I also saw it, and a few years ago I was on the grass strip across the Indian River from Cape Canaveral to see Elon's test launching. What a crowd, and amazing as to how many around me were foreign visitors.
A solve to the problem of the rocket being unable to launch vertically on mars could be hydraulics. They could be used to stabilize a launch pad or just the rocket itself. The lower gravity of mars would require less power to level it too.
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Amazing video ! I like it so much . Thank you for sharing . Happy week-end to you !
Mars rocket lad attempts their first ocean recovery. By the way, I have difficulty communicating because I had a stroke in Broca’s area, the part of the brain that controls speech. 2/8/2021 but I lived again. (My wife helped me compose this.)
I'm loving this Modern Space Race this century.
Very intrigued how things will turn out. Lot's of big and small players trying to race their way to the top.
really? I find it pathetic. we have wasted so much time.
@@zephryus Uhm, well... Yeah okay...
Lol we have man ur a tool who watches the news . We are either pathetic and slow and hiding what we really do . We could have a base on titan already
@labelfree904 better late then never 🤷♂️
2020 spacerace just seems like a bunch of billionaires working on an escape plan.
I think the SpaceX Starship is supposed to address all of these problems.
Yeah
There is a reason the mars society proposed to make the starship smaller, its a huge ship to fuel with in situ utilization, even sending all the fuel ahead is no small feat. Beter for starship to stay in orbit and have a smaller decent and ascent vehicle.
Starship has to refill with propellant to leave Mars as well, so no, it doesn't solve all the problems.
NASA always has to be extra in everything they do...
@@PowerHouseWash NASA has been planning to go to Mars since the Apollo program. The tech is not there yet, which is likely why Musk had SpaceX bid on HLS. The Artemis program is going to develop the skills and technology in our backyard (Moon), so that we can go to Mars later.
Great video bro 👍
Some sort of nuclear powered booster should be sitting in orbit around both planets, then other craft could use these to travel to and from the moon/mars - meaning the fuel they carry is only used landing or taking off from Mars - sounds too easy to be doable - only problem is we just don't have nuclear powered boosters. Though I'm sure NASA and others are working on that. I'll go an watch the podcast :) Great content as usual.
We don't have any nuclear powered space engine. NASA should have been working on that over the past half a century, but they didn't. This is a major failure of NASA.
Are you familiar with Aldrin cyclers? I always thought that was an interesting possibility...
@@citizenblue Thanks, I was not familiar with them - good stuff.
Excellent stuff bro
The Space Race, another good video. However, at the 2:00 mark, I was surprised to hear you say that a trip to the moon (not Alpha Centauri) is interstellar travel on easy mode. I guess so, as I've always thought this trip qualifies as interplanetary, since the prefix 'inter' means 'between', i.e., 'between planets', and interstellar means travel between stars, as they do on Star Trek and Star Wars, at faster than light speeds. Right?
This is really well done. The editing keeps you engaged with much of the information not found elsewhere, unless of course you do your research. If you're time is constrained, this channel allows you to thin out your subscription list so to speak.
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Thanks for another interesting and well-researched video from a subscriber. I wanted to point out, though, that "Lunar LEM" (2:28) is a bit redundant (the "L" in "LEM" or "LM" stands for "Lunar").
Lunar excursion module
@@jhooper3077 Yep! Later changed to just "Lunar Module," although the Apollo astronauts continued to refer to it as "The LEM."
It's not interstellar travel if you aren't travelling between stars
Interplanetary
@@Bellaaaaaaaaaa12345 you got it right the first time it is interstellar
@@dracenheard9196 , and if it's just to the moon, it's cislunar.
Fascinating it will be amazing times in the future
maybe your great great grandkids will see it. no way we will. heck, it took 50 years for us just to go back and orbit the moon again, assuming that actually happens next year.
What about the relative timing of transfer windows? How much time is there after a hohmann transfer to mars before the beginning and end of the hohmann transfer window from mars to earth?
Thank you.
Sounds great
There has to be several uncrew missions to Mars that safely return to earth before we sent humans to do the same in the future. Keep in mind, that there has never been a spacecraft returning safely to earth from Mars; such it has been the case of the moon when several Soviet space probes took samples on the Moon, and then return to earth. The Chinese has done the same within the last year, I believe.
Rocket science is freaking hard, you got to make everything near protect
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I've been on Starlink for more than 2 years and I'm pretty happy with it. Hoping they can increase bandwidth and reduce latency further. Upload bandwidth is the biggest limitation for me, but I make it work.
Can I have what you're smoking
This is like, my favorite Space Channel rn. I like the stock editing 😅 and it feels very personable. Very underrated channel. Love this
Would it be possible to send an automated excavator thing to mars just to build a landing strip for a space shuttle type vehicle.
The atmosphere is too thin to fly a plane type aircraft. It would have to fly too fast to get any kind of lift from the wings. So it's not doable.
😂no!😊
“The Mars Ascent Vehicle, or MAV.”
Huh. The Martian was so accurate, it predicted the names of the vehicles. 😂
The Martian was based on NASA plans to go to Mars.
Let's make Mars great again
water was detected around the äquator too .. for example in the valey marianes ..
Yes, where they should have landed rovers in the past. That also should be the target for a colony on Mars.
yes
Where can I watch the podcast
It’s CRAZY how much more advanced SpaceX is…
Any update from other rocket companies I here I’m just shocked. They are all at least a decade behind SpaceX (maybe even 20-30 years behind, based on their speed of iteration)
Thinking outside the box, imagine a modified Starship cargo area with a faring that would be jettisoned to present a 9 meter diameter flat surface with a central docking hatch. The the RVAC engines would jettison and present the same 9 meter flat surface with docking port. Incorporate the classic central merging sections to expand the system in a multi axis configuration like ISS… except 9mX9m sections. Expandable to the point of the classic Von Braun station…
Just saying…
I’m so lucky being young in this age so I can experience this when it happens. The human fascination in space is just bonkers.
Don’t you hold your breath young genius!!! Humans are bio…frail as all hell!!
@@drjojo5551Yes. We're so frail in fact we can only survive in select parts of the African savanna naturally. Thankfully we invented things such as clothes and habitats to help us survive.
If life is found on mars at any level, those people can NEVER come back
will it be difficult to make a loggy ?
"We have to get those people back home again..."
--or do we?--
A link to the Mars podcast might have been nice.
A day is too long to spend in a spacecraft the size of the LM ascent? Apollo J missions had 2 astros on the lunar surface for about 3 days!
the one way journey is 3 days they spend only 21 hours on the lunar surface.
I think the first step is to establish dry docks on Mars so the vehicles are not stuck in the elements as all of the components are relatively delicate. We need infrastructure in place so we can have a reliable way home
lol
Not exactly a lot in the way of "elements" anyway and the vehicles are already gonna need to be able to handle the environment for up to days or longer just for the ordinary work they will be used for so I don't exactly see the benefit of having some sort of protected garage for them. Unless you mean a pressurized garage, which ain't gonna happen for anything that is currently in the pipeline.
Like keeping them out of the rain?
Note that this guy has a podcast as well “also called The Space Race”
NASA podcasts always seem to have a "dont mention spacex" policy. The problem is, that there is no mars mission without spacex (within 20 years). I hope NASA will be more open once/if starship proves to be viable.
Red Planet was such an underrated movie.
The tech to refuel on Mars is the key to it. We need to prioritize, fund and accelerate that technology. Methane and oxygen seem the right choices, since we know both exist there.
I mean all questions here are very valid. For instance, I’m very concerned just with the landing aspect of a vertical tower.
It’s even tricky landing on earth with concrete platforms and such now imagine nothing on the surface of Mars. I know what some may say “oh we got the falcon 9 landing well” but I’d say is a starship that has landed only once and yeah it wasn’t even fully straight standing remember that. Lol
There may be a lot of work on those landing legs. Then how to refuel the Red Bull can back again (The equipment men/women power to to all this)
Give me a minute my head hurts😬. I mean the design of the starship is not even fully complete. Ok, yeah they say 100 people fit in it, that’s with nothing in that 35% of the tip or so of the ship cause all else is basically for fuel🚀.
Food, water, equipment, and like what to sustain maybe 10sh people or less for a very short duration, since this is basically our first try. Ok I know that there will be risks involved like Elon says, but I think the risk assessment has to be greater so we can bring everyone back. 😬
The legs on SN5 through SN-15, were temporary, one-use legs for testing. SpaceX is working on larger, more capable legs.
The Mars Starship will likely have an engine ring around 25m off the ground, like the HLS Starship is planned to have. Those engines would be used for the last bit of landing and the first bit of launch. A Mars Starship doesn't need a booster to get off Mars and return to Earth, so it doesn't need a launch pad/tower.
@@steveaustin2686 …..Oh great 👍 that sounds more achievable. Thanks for the feedback.
@@MaxKito2 You're welcome. I would think that the first mission would be 4-8 crew, which should be doable for supplies. Especially, if an unmanned Starship is sent 26 months earlier to start propellant processing. It could also carry some of the equipment too.
@@steveaustin2686 …..I agreed. There’s much to be done, but at least things are moving for sure.
Just wanted to say. Love the video but one thing is bugging me. U use the moon version of the starship in the thumbnail. Thats all have a good day
Ya.... right!
@5:46 Angry Astronaut has a video talking about NASA having found water at the equator. Video is called "New Discovery! Huge water source found on Mars.."
I know the answer to this title NASA is going to hire SpaceX. That’s how they’re going to do it do it.
NASA: "The astronauts think they're coming home from Mars?"
A flight to Mars is not a short distance run; strengths and capabilities must be calculated especially realistically and carefully. And most importantly, you need a long-term, meaningful goal and strategy. Current plans look lightweight and illusory.
The first person to die on Mars is born already....
I also believed you need AI robotics to go to Mars to assist with building infrastructure to make things work.
You will get there..
a lot less gravitation pull on mars so less fuel needed to fly up. less then half a tank to fly out of it.
Maybe we should make all astronauts get a neuralink and exoskeleton fitted as a requirement for now on?
Support for atrophy and bone support, help colonization, support the weight of pressure suits....
Sence we know now that propeller vehicles work really good why not have a jetson or something like that so its modified to fit mars for himan travel idk
Why not a cargo rocket to deliver lunarnauts + supplies plus a fuel pod to a space taxi whose sole purpose is to do multiple return journeys between Earth and Moon using the fuel pod. Space taxi mates with lunar lander whose purpose is to do return journeys between lunar surface and low lunar orbit.
Space taxi and lunar lander are reusable, and specific to their single simpler purpose. Fuel pods deliverable via taxi to lunar orbit.
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launch various comms to a median orbit around the sun between earth and mars that when the planets are farthest apart there can be laser connectivity between the various satellites sending messages at the speed of light.
Radio is already speed of light, so it won't make it faster.
@@steveaustin2686 probably will make communication more consistent and reliable but not faster that's for sure
@@CeoMacNCheese A station between Earth and Mars would go around the Sun faster than Mars and slower than the Earth. So they would rarely line up. About the only time a station would help, is when the Earth and Mars are on opposite sides of the Sun. So putting stations at L4 and L5 would have enough angle to forward a message around the Sun. Otherwise, you would just send the message directly.
@@steveaustin2686 I stand corrected. Then I don't understand NASA's expenditure on laser comm satellites...LCRD
@@richardsmith8590 Having them in orbit around Earth, the Moon, Mars, etc, means that you can reach a probe behind that celestial body. You would not have to wait for the two to rotate into view of each other.
Example, say the Earth and Mars are on the same side of the Sun, but you don't have the comm sats around the Earth and Mars. So you would only be able to talk to Mars, when your transmitter is at night and the Mars transmitter is in daytime. Because at night on Earth, you are facing away from the Sun and towards Mars. And in daytime on Mars, you are facing towards the Sun and Earth. So your signal can reach each other. Otherwise your transmitter is facing the wrong way. But if you put up comm sats around each planet, then it doesn't matter when during the day you want to talk to the other planet, because one of the comm sats is always pointing in the right direction.
You just don't need comm sats in-between them as the signal can reach there just as fast by itself, as if it hits a comm sat in-between the two.
Why even land humans on Mars at the onset ? Robotic landers can go first and establish a habitat and fuel production facility for the humans that will arrive later. These self repairing construction robots can be remotely controlled from Mars orbit from a space station and satellite links.
I would suspect they will definitely use starship when it has proven itself instead of any other lander.
By Hyper Sleep?
How's perseverance now?
I’d actually call travel travel to & from the moon inter-solar travel on easy instead of interstellar travel on easy
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@@Just_a_Piano_ ok i think of it like this. Travel within our solar system is Inter-Solar travel. Then outside our solar system it’s Interstellar travel. See kinda makes more sense
The scary thing I see is that such a high percentage of earth launches are scrubbed or delayed because of issues ... how will Mars be different?
i have a solution for a toilet and shower in space. housing in my ship will be standard. 10w 10l 8ish foot high. with connecting shower area and toilet that is 4w by 5l each and a 5l by 2foot wide closet for space suit and personal stuff. the 3 wide 4 foot high 6 long bed folds up and a tv screen is their. the couch across 3w6l4h. will have 4 draws for storage space.
NASA would only send 2 people at a time at 1st to Mars? NASA`s motto should be 'To meekly go where no one has gone before`
First we should deliver dozons of starship carrying plenty of fuels and foods and other basic facilities needed for our first astronauts, so that they can easily survibe there more than year without tention of returning back and hunger! The starship should be developed in that way that,it can land and take off on grounds that don't have landing pads ready! If landing problem is solved we can think about interstettravel as well after that!
Knew it was one way tripp..
I certainly would entertain the idea about first sending A.I. robots, fully scaled up to human dimensions And programming them to autonomously Carry out building and walking through the different scenarios that will certainly be encountered.
Let them walk through the process of greenhouse production, safety and quality control procedures that would be the survival standards for human beings All while building and assembling the first inhabitable structures that could come online to eventually except actual living human beings.
Anyway, it would get things rolling on 2 feet you might say, instead of little rovers and wheeled machines, of course these will also be vital elements and extremely useful tools. But having an exact replica of a human in A.I. form might just work out to everyone's benefit in the long run. Take the time it takes -- to take less time...
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They are "EXCITED". You can't be excited about something so complex and dangerous. That will make people rush things and make hidden errors.
How about those Van Allen belts??
What about them? As long as you don't linger in the Van Allen belts, but go right through, they are not much of an obstacle at all.
@@steveaustin2686 NASA said they can't get past them because of the high radiation
@@MDC885 No, NASA does NOT say that, as that is a Moon Hoax lie. The Apollo spacecraft went through the edges of the Van Allen belts and Apollo 14 went through the Van Allen belts. Gemini 11 flew into the bottom of the Van Allen belts as well. Sorry, you have been hit with Moon Hoax misinformation.
@@MDC885 no they didn't.
@@massimookissed1023 yes they did, look it up, there's a video
Send artificial intelligence first to build space stations and lunar modules and 3D building materials
One word for that question, fusion.
It seems pretty clear at this point that if indeed NASA gets an astronaut to Mars, they shouldn't have a problem taking off and returning to Earth. I say this because there will probably be a lot of SpaceX astronauts and Engineers living on Mars by the time NASA gets there.
A swimming rocket is the way to go
The probable method would be to have AI built the habitats and resources before the fitst colonists departed and they stay there permanently.
Very carefully I assume
Interplanetary journey...
NASA should just give it to Space X and write the check.
How about if they launch an international space station in between mars and earth where they could receive a much better communication? Would that be possible?
Radio is already light speed, so a station in between won't make it faster. Not to mention that the station between the Earth and Mars would have a different rotation period around the Sun than both Mars and Earth. A station between them would taking longer than a year to go around the Sun and less than the 1.88 years it takes Mars to go around the Sun. So they would rarely line up.
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3D print some or all of the return vehicle on Mars
but we can't 3d print fuel for that.
@@Mattricks108 electrolyze water from Martian pole into Hydrogen and Oxygen
we still need to send the 3D printer and the resources fir the 3D printer and also make sure NOTHING gets broken on launch, entry into the mars atmosphere and STILL perform perfectly and not have any issues
3D printing isnt gonna be viable until spaceX makes the self sustaining colony
@@thepro2412 agreed. Nothing worthwhile is ever easy... which is why it's worth the effort 😁
The comment should be 'How NASA 'HOPES" to get Astronauts back from Mars. ' If they all get there to begin with!!
I support your assessment. Current goals and plans for advancing into space have little contact with reality, real possibilities and deadlines, or a rational, meaningful approach.
Geesus.. why not just send the fuel in a tank and have it orbit Mars so the landing unit can fuel up before landing?
Virus and bacteria?? But if we are there with many missions and they never discovered something like that..
Hold up a minuet fella. First answer the question of how are you going to get them there before presupposing you would could possibly have any idea how to return from somewhere you have never been!
Getting there is part of the Mars plan. They will have a transfer ship for LEO to Mars orbit and back. Other spacecraft would do the launch and landings.
@@steveaustin2686 The space station idea is under used. We need to build space craft in the environment we plan to explore. Are we to believe we can run parts from manufactures on earth to where ever out there we might need them?
@@louiswhite805 To be able to build spacecraft parts off Earth, you need infrastructure. That's not happening in the early missions.
Build storage and assembly facilities first, aleast. There are tons of problems that must be solved before human can safely explore exsistence beyond earth's moon. This will require that every child born is exposed to education to the limits of their ability to comprehend. A person with a billion dollars didn't do all that it took to get it, and surley can't do all that is will take to keep it!
Landing The MAV and any other needed equipment first at or near main human landing area First would be best? An on Mars habitat module ? vehicle garage module? science module ? equipment repair workshop module? etc modules that land low to surface in a flat not pencil landing? After all are ready or replaced by ones that arrive intact? Land the lander return Module or Modules? Mars moons could be a rendezvous base camp Remote robot Real time control center and master command. Mars is not the back room Moon of earth time delay and communication is too long
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Oh well, I might've attracted some flies ...
Dr. Robert Zubrin, Ph.D wrote the book. "The Case For Mars" where he outlined the way that N.A.S.A. could do everything that needed to be done for Mars Exploration. Obviously, N.A.S.A. didn't want to listen to Dr. Zubrin.
Satellite recovery ships
There will be enough volunteers that don't want or need to come back to earth. I would send them ... at least at first.
the video is not exactly off topic, but it is not on topic either
I can't seriously contemplate such a mission. The problems with getting such a huge ship and large crew off the ground and on to Mars seem insurmountable. But good luck anyway.
Here is what I think have some thing on the moon, which is closer to earth. Then you have one rocket ship on the moon, and one on its way to Mars so for instants live in Mars, stop on the moon refuel, leave the moon, and come back to earth.🚀🚀💡⏳⌛️🤔
They should carry umbrellas.
It's a one way trip letsnotkid ourselves.
I think it's almost a 2 year trip to Mars, and from watching other science programs it was already proven that the astronauts will be exposed to radiation the entire way there. 🤷🏻
Best place is phobos station.