SpaceX Reveals NEW Space Station - The Haven 1!
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- SpaceX Reveals NEW Space Station - The Haven 1!
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I love this idea of a ss
I like Vast's approach to populating space a lot more than colonizing Mars. I believe a traveling space station just makes more sense. Once nuclear propulsion and solar wind surfing become viable we don't have to manufacture Methane on planets to fuel our big crafts. I won't be around to experience living in space, but I support their future.
They are both valid parts of the larger expansion puzzle.
They go hand in hand. We will need both programs to succeed in space travel and exploration
@@itsjustmeweiss
We'll especially need it for exploitation. There's a lot of resources tied up in planets.
There is a reason to do both.
You can see planets as big space stations, why build massive or numerous space stations, if we can build a few space stations and use these massive already existing space stations that we call: "Planets".
I hope someone "sponsors" a seat the for most prominent figure in the flat earth community 🌎
Yes 😂😂😂
genius
Won't make any difference to them...
Yea, good idea,
With seat ejection option 😂
yes, i've been watiing for someone to make a rotating spacestation for ever! Hopefully i can go to it one day.
About time someone built the space station from Arthur C. Clarke's "2001 - A Space Odyssey".
Yes it’s about time after studying and experimenting with micro gravity for over 50 plus years!😮
they dont do it because for people not to start barfing every few minutes, the station has to be HUGE. they did experiments with spinning stations in the 70's
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@@jebes909090 although there are some side effects of artificial gravity, it is possible for humans to adopt to these conditions (so they don't immediately get motion sickness). Because it is not possible to eliminate the cause of the motion sickness, it is necessary to have humans adopt to the motion sickness
Last time I was this early the space race was a title in history books not a CZcams channel 🌕 💫 🚀
They should do superGavity! People would return to Earth really, really strong!
3G with weighted clothing, 6 months. The crew returns and takes over the earth like Dragonball Z villains.
@@russellharrell2747 Can you imagine? You'd get winded just bringing home the groceries and anyone with back problems would be erased from the genetic pool!
I can wait for Olympics to bane it . 😂😂😂
@@fenilkheni9494 I'm pretty sure that all these Olympic "Bans" have the underpinnings of "Cancel Culture" which has become quite a fad in recent years. We'll all get to revisit the 60's when the pendulum starts to swing in the other direction.
Return to Earth really, really strong? Oh? Will a moron become intelligent by sending her to University?
If that was the case, stephannovotny, I would be sponsoring your education.
I mean, really!!
killer new intro, love it. very cinamatic.
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Vast should start with the middle module/node/axle and then extend outward with the spokes/modules. It should be removable and interchangeable to await the bigger cylindrical modules from Starship! The center module should have access ports on its side, so the spokes modules can attach and extend out, it can spin at once when balanced.
I doubt they will be building a spin station with the first design.
You need a crazy big station to make that comfortable, or use a counter weight system, but that also has limitations.
Exciting to see yet another contributor to the Space Industries growth
Not really!
So far another contributer to the special effects and CGI industry... Nothing more!
That is not growth, that is a Space industry Scam.
Glad more emphasis is being placed on living in space rather than just on planets as space is 99% of everything and this tech will get us very far
I was born way too early to experience humans in space, being a common every day thing.
Anymore, I wish nothing but success to all space agencies, government and private. I wish them success with all their progress, and projects they have planned that will benefit humans exploring the cosmos!!
I wish I could see it all happen!!
Yes, I'm witnessing the very beginnings, and that's exciting for sure!!!....but I would love to go to space, like how you can book a flight to another state, and or country...
You realise we have had people in space every single day for more than two decades now?
@@stevenobrien557 yes, but not on a "commercial level". You didn't pay attention to what I was saying exactly.
You or I, just can't go to space any time we want to go.
That's what I'm talking about, and that's what I'm getting at....
Now that I have clarified that, again, I repeat.....I was born too early to experience humans exploring the the cosmos...
@@ericwilliams538 yeah I just read "everyday" without seeing "common" to get the context.
I'm in a similar boat. I was 2 years old when we left the moon in 1972. I was too young to understand what was going on. As a kid we had the space shuttle and various probes. Launches were few and far between back then. Nowadays there's a rocket going up just about every week. I'd say that's pretty exciting time to be alive. But I'm going to miss the really exciting stuff I'm afraid... but I try to stay healthy and there are always medical improvements...
Good video - thanks.
Vast's ambitions are, well, vast and of very uncertain plausibility - like Musk's - but the near term goal looks pretty realistic. I wish them luck!
I hope Vast can pull it off and Space X also gets a station to start building it refuel ship station.
This is so neat.
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There after 3:18, "a sort of camper attachment for the Crew Dragon", ya know, that makes sense, and, really, why not do exactly that for a short term habitat.
_(what we really need to launch to attach the habitat to is a space capsule which looks like an old pickup truck)_ 😁
I believe there's another billionaire doing exactly that 😎
@@scottfw7169 Well Bezos has already given us a rocket that looks like a dildo so why not?
Fantastic as always
I think Vast is half Vast. The founder has a spotty record. Doesn't give me confidence.
Started writing software which allowed people to steal copyrighted material. Started an exchange which was later used for crypto which is largely used for evading law enforcement,... more crypto.... guy sounds a bit shady, and that's putting it nicely.
excited to see that
It makes sense that they would also develop stations for the HLS and for Mars orbit. The Haven 1 is just a small step toward a more grand vision.
Excellent stuff bro
Relying on Crew Dragon for some of the life support functions is a good idea. If I was an inhabitant one thing that occurs to me that Crew Dragon brings to the party is a space toilet with - since it is in the capsule not the station module itself - presumably a pretty decent degree of privacy. Maybe there will be one in the station itself as well, for backup, but I suspect the one in the capsule would become the toilet of choice.
thinking about where you'll be crapping is a real pro move. 👍
These modules seem much too small to "spin up" to provide gravity...the Coriolis force gradient would be too steep causing dizziness and nausea. Maybe we'll discover the dizziness and nausea effects will where off after some time but I don't think so.
100 meters is Small? are u ok?
@TheHeavenman88 yes, they're right. You'd have to provide less than normal earth gravity to avoid spinning it too fast and making the astronauts sick. Still probably much better than what we have right now, but not perfect.
Now, don't start bringing actual science into Musk fanboy videos!
@@Darenz-cg9zg where has this been tested ? Show me the study. These are all theories. No one has tried to spin a 100 m of anything in microgravity never . So there is no way to know how it would be at that scale before we test it .
Small radius centrifuges are controversial for sure but apparently the negative effects can be cancelled out with training... or so I've heard I'm not very confident in them
That's roughly the same timeframe that Axiom is targeting for their first module on orbit, attached initially to the ISS. So Vast may or may not be "first."
That said, I think it's great that there are multiple companies looking to put private capacity into LEO.
Waiting for someone to start doing construction blocks for habs instead of tubes. Maybe just put up a docking module with a bunch of ports to attach the hab modules to it.
Man, I really want to live on another planet. I want to be a citizen on a new world.
This is the most confident design for a space station right now. Soley in its design, it is simple and within our capabilities. It is literally the most confident design for a space station. Not a bunch of launches just to get it operational, not a bunch extra gear and arms for international space research, and does not have a bunch windows and equipment to maintain. Don't know why you're not confidently inspired in this design. This is where we are at with our current capabilities, and I can't wait to see it in orbit.
no this isnt where we are at we can do better this is what where willing to spend is what you mean
@@SirDeadPuppy That could be said about anything. We have the capability to go all electric and not use fossil fuel but the cost would be insurmountable. With that being said, those systems that can provide the space industry with the tech at the rate that it needs to create an advanced space station does not exist. I stand by my statement. Within our capabilities. Who else is safely rapidly putting modules like this in orbit? No one, because its not within our capabilities. Money is probably the largest throttling factor but the system itself is limited at its current state. And we really don't have much experience with space stations, I wouldn't have the confidence in a space station with over a million critical failure points. This is design is simple and confident.
@@ezekielteklaking i mean you have a point about money is a thing ....but we got luner gateway set to be built we got space x ,blue orgin and i dont know nasa all working on doing some cool stuff ,it will take time ..there will be problems but saying a trailer for dragon is the best we can do is a lil over simplified dont you think?..we trying to build bases on the moon as soon as we get these dame rockets to work like clock work we come so far we have built better and are planing to build even better this while a nice step and smart is not the best
Why not an inflatable module.. would be MUCH larger. (i.e. Bigelow Aerospace)
im pretty sure this will attach to another space station
@@TAmzid2872 sure.. it's modular, but why not BIGGER. The inflatable modules provide larger volume for fewer launches.. a huge cost savings.
@@KrustyKlown true
Sounds like a great plan!
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I need to become immortal so I can live to see all of this.
Replace the viewing port with an space walking pressure chamber. Then use it to service satellites, such as the Hubble.
They should add a soft chamber between the wundow capsule and the main tube !
Shielding from the Solar Wind and Cosmic Radiation is going to be the most difficult problem to solve.
5:20 - Yes, spin, but not like that.
5:27 - Yes, it _is_ "actual gravity" - read your Einstein. The only problem are tidal forces and Coriolis effect if the radius of the rotating habitat is too small.
Yup, and starship is huge. May as well just attach a bungee to the top of 2 starships, and spin them around for artificial gravity. No extra structure(s) needed.
I think it's a better way of spinning. That means that the floor will be on the opposite side of the spin, and hence you'll be walking, turning a curve corridor. The 2001 spin means you'll be walking with the corridor rising to the ceiling ... an unnecessary optical stress.
U can adjust gravity make it light and make it heavy
As soon as Starship is on a solid reuse program, space stations will be easy to build... And actually big enough to move comfortably in.
Really, A Space station would be easy to you built? You built one before?
How you you gonna build a Space Station in FAKE SPACE idi0t?
What’s with company called Above?
Centrifical is not a word. Centrifugal is the word for the force to which you are referring.
3rd! love these viseos!
Hell yeah…
5:21 Not like that. 😂😂😂
I would have thought they would build inflatable Kevlar Space Habitats than used a epoxy to harden the surface while in space or build it on the inside.
Just get an Airstream to make you a space station. Their RVs are practically space ships already.
So within the sawblade ball and NASA's little saw-blade ball the incident going up into your bigger lunar Landers going to be a benefit if it actually works kind of like Milan Orlando does which equivalent to the
I don't understand why they won't look at inflatable modules which could expand the space 3X and is just as tough in space. With the starship capability, it should be able to send up something equivalent to Bigelow mega inflatable space center into space.
honestly, space stations are going to need to become a LOT bigger if we are going to get off planet long term. For example, if we are to build stuff in orbit (not just assemble in orbit), we need the ability to take raw materials and turn it into a finished product. For example, metal fabrication. We will need to be able to take ores (almost completely pure or not) and smelt them down and turn them into suitable alloys. We will then need to take those pieces of raw stock and turn them into the forms we want. For example, sheets of metal for the skin of a station and to turn into pipes, wires, etc. We will need to figure out how to turn tuff on asteroids into high strength ceramics. Eventually, even things like computer chip fabrication and encapsulation. I am not worried about getting light stuff into orbit, but it's the cost of putting bulk heavy materials into orbit that is expensive. How much of the smelting/refining process could be done under 0g, and how much will require at least some minor amount of gravity? How do you plan on getting the oxygen for the steelmaking process? do you use steel, or do you use less abundant aluminum? How easy it is to find large caches of each in asteroids? Do you transport refinery and mining systems to the rock you are mining, or just mining equipment and send back materials to a centralized refinery?
Artificial gravity (such as a spinning section) will require very strong connections between sections. The more mass the unit has, and the higher the simulated gravity, the stronger the connections will need to be. Taking 7 of those capsules and spinning them end over end will put a tremendous amount of strain on the couplings, especially the center airlock unit. Is the Dragon Crewed capsule even setup to do a BBQ roll?
Lots of questions. It's easy to say "we are going to colonize the solar system" and another thing to actually figure out how you are actually going to do it.
Good❤
Still waitin for a BIG wheel type 1 with artificial gravity - since 2001.
All this push to go into space is great. However, it will take about a century to establish colonies in space and an infrastructure to accommodate training to survive while bringing costs down for the average consumer. Also, getting future generations to adopt a physically fit lifestyle would help.
Anyone here read the bobbiverse series?
That title gives me chills
( I do realize it’s “haven” but it looks so similar)
If the diameter of the rotating habitat is large enough, the coriolis effect will be minimalised. And astronauts/passengers would soon acclimatise.
Long term, they would bf better located in geostationary orbit, where there is far less clutter or (rare) risk of collisions with debris. At that ‘altitude’ there could be thousands of such stations, along with GPS satellites, weather satellites and do on.
Not that I expect to live long enough to see even one of them.
I guess someone(two people) will finally have the 60 (above 62) mile high club.
I'm glad they're not going about this half-Vast... Sly puns aside, this is terrific, and would meet with Robert Heinlein's approval.
They have Vast capabilities i'd imagine. Or they have the Space for it. :)
Build a space station, then a space hotel and get the tourism industry going. Eventually trips to the Moon and/or Mars might convince some tourists to emigrate off planet, some day. Every journey begins with the first step. The beginnings of a space faring future?
so, they have a nice animation and timetable that would scare the shit out of an actual space agency to achieve. perfect way to pump a few million out of the current space hype.
By 2025? Not gonna happen.
The free market loves to pre speculate and set unrealistic timelines, creates product hype.
Yeah, been chugging on whatever inspires Musk to make predictions they don't have a hope in hell of meeting.
@@engineeredlifeformWell as long as they get it done within the decade it'd be promising. Better late than never.
@@MrNote-lz7lh End of the decade? How long did the ISS take to assemble? 10 years, 30 launches and international co-operation. SpaceX can't afford to build this unless world Govts decide they want it, and that isn't going to happen while they keep extending the life of the ISS.
It's as if Ben Bova made the playbook in his "Grand Tour" series.
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Wouldn't it be fair to say that *Vast* revealed their new space station project? Sure, cooperation with SpaceX probably goes beyond simple contracting launches and Crew Dragon rides, but this is nor a SpaceX project.
On second thought, _Haven 1_ can be viewed as little more than a habitation extension to Crew Dragon... We shall see how this develops.
Is it going to be made with titanium and carbon fiber
My guy, you forgot to vectorize his logo haha
I'm not sure I could survive 30 days locked in a camper with 3 others on Earth.
Yeah ,.... you'd never make it as space explorer!
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New Intro :)
At 5;26 the animation gets it wrong. Rings don't spin end over end in space to make artificial gravity. I don't know where you found this but it is for some fantasy fiction, not science. A gravity ring has to be a toroidal shape like an inner tube from a bicycle, but the problems with spinning it are many, for one, docking to it requires the ship to match it's spin and it can only dock two ships at most in the very center because the WHOLE space station is spinning. Should a part fly off it would be a hazard to approaching space ships and capsules. Then there is the issue of industry who want to work in ZERO G.... but a spinning station has no zero G!
When you say "reveals" you mean they made a picture. Great.
I have read many science fiction stories in which mankind discovers metal rich asteroids and mine them, hollowing out the interiors and setting up colonies. Eventually, they emerge and mine the asteroid belt becoming a mining industrial society. The past dreams of future possiblities are now being restored?
Might as well skip his step and wait for starship and make a near 9 meter diameter version instead
Hans Koenigsmann? Hmmm... This guy knows a thing or two about human spaceflight (and SpaceX). Suddenly this sounds more realistic...
What the... Do not, I repeat, do absolutely not go into space with this man! 🤣🤣
PHub could send 2 astronauts to make a movie
Vast is probably 1000 years away from having billions in space lol. They should start with a smaller goal lol
When is Elon going to get that gold asteroid that Obuma wants so much?
How many square feet was that?
Good luck to Vast. Its these sorts of commercial ventures that will get us out there. We could sit back and wait for government agencies to do it, but they are subject to so much political whim and hidden agendas.
Jed must be using his xlm money to fund this
Why don't they plan to just outfit a starship itself as a module for their space station instead of wasting all of the propellant it took to get it into space by bringing it back down for reuse? They could even plan to reuse the propellant tanks as more pressurized volume. As a matter of fact, why should they EVER plan to bring an empty starship back down? They should park them in orbit and sell them as potential space station modules. Sure, if you have cargo to bring back, it makes sense to bring it back down, but maybe you only need to do that once in a while.
To first order, fuel is cheap, spacecraft are expensive. But even reusable spacecraft have a design life. Perhaps a Starship used up as a vehicle could be used as a station/fuel depot but the way reuse makes access to orbit cheaper is not having to use each vehicle only once. By not reusing any Starship you negate the savings and make SpaceX launches as expensive as everybody else's. Reusing spacecraft means that for the price of one spacecraft you get to launch many times the spacecraft's payload into orbit. Using it once means you get to launch ONE time the spacecraft's payload into space for almost the same price. That is what we have been doing before, and it is EXACTLY HOW NOT TO SAVE MONEY.
They looked at leaving the disposable tanks for the Shuttle in LEO when they were first designing it - the plan was to have some basic adaptations made so that the void space within could easily be repurposed with additional equipment brought up on subsequent flights. I recall that getting the tanks up there was fairly straightforward and not very expensive in terms of additional cost for the mission but it was decided that refitting them once in orbit was too complex and wasn't worth the effort. There were a couple of designs - one used the tanks like the rim of a wheel, and the other like the spokes (we're talking ten or twenty of the things). It's a shame - they'd have been great for projects that required interior volume but not too much fitting out.
The new places that value human labors are not on earth anymore,but maybe in other planets, and the more faraway you can go(maybe to dig mine), the more you can earned, it will be totally different concept, otherwise a lot of people maybe will end up living paycheck to paycheck forever,hmm
If we are going to sent peoples to Mars I think we ought to put in orbital Hospital around Mars that capable of monitoring every crews member’s on the surfaces of Mars 24/7 treating , stabilizing and transport them back the to yet another place it can be nuclear power there for can’t travel directly back to earth !
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Space Station form 2001 was based of real-life project, similarity is not accidental. So rather than basing design off movie they based it off design that was used in the movie
Ha ha -the graphic for the results of zero G on the human body strongly suggests I’ve been living in zero G here on earth for some time now… 😂
VAST is thinking too small. They should be designing for Falcon Heavy and incorporate an integral fairing that deploys/extends into the power panels and solar heat/debris shields. With on board power storage for several days to weeks, the fairing "shields" could be reoriented to provide ballistic protection against smaller debris impact. The volume could be greatly increased allowing for more "visitors", labs, etc. making it more economical and efficient to operate. Just another opinion.
Falcon Heavy is expensive compared to Falcon 9, I would assume that they are going to be waiting on Starship for the major heavy lift which seems smart. I guess that they are doing something like a Skylab type module for the first one. Lots of bugs to work out.
they could throw a couple together with a life support module or add a few inflating modules hell they could turn it into iss 2.0 if they have the money..thats the key thing MONEY this will be cheap and simple a great early step
Another nail in NASA's coffin.
I am not surprised that Vast is able to acquire a few SpaceX engineers that don't want to leave Long Beach or are just tired of working for tyrant Elon.
If this guy treats his people right and maybe gets a manager on par with Gwynne Shotwell, his company might go the distance. He seems to be good at seeing "the next big thing" and knowing when to change or get out when things look bad.
I like their approach. They seem to have laser focus on what they want to do and have an incremental plan to get there. Having a strong launch partner is what has been missing in the space world for a long time. Those 90s and early aught space launch companies all went belly up. Now that we have SpaceX in a strong position, Rocket Lab on the way up to secure footing, and a boatload of space launch startups that will eventually shake out to 1 or 2 viable ones, it is now possible for Space APPLICATIONS companies to start proliferating.
I think I like their chances better than Orbital Reef, since Blue Origin has yet to show they can manage ANYTHING. I expect that will change if they are successful in launching New Glenn and leading the engineering team to an actual lunar landing vehicle (as opposed to vaporware). I guess we'll see how this shakes out.
Humanity needs RingWorld! ✊😢
that would take centuries to build and probably not be in the solar system.
Lets get starship done then think about other projects😂
Spinning a spacecraft isn't enough to generate useful artificial gravity. In a smaller craft (less than a few kilometres in diameter), the gravity at your feet would be vastly more than at your head. This would result in your brain not getting enough oxygen, which is very bad. Furthermore, you'd likely feel sick from the extreme speed the craft has to rotate at, and if you drop anything it's going to go flying down the craft instead of hitting the floor. To build a practical spacecraft with artificial gravity, it needs to be at least a few kilometres in diameter. There's many more reason as well, such as the difficulty docking with a spacecraft spinning at a high RPM.
I wish this was real i would buy my ticket
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good content, but please stop switching images too fast (like for ex. at 0:25). too fast to make any sense of it and it's a strain on the eye.
Rename it to: Heaven 1
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Starship will make a better "space station" by itself.
So are SpaceX going to be training and contracting astronauts - pretty much like Transport staff to get you there and look after you once you get there? The time's a-ticking and little is going on for the public to see our future in the heavens. 2030? That's a ways off!! Will they be producing bigger space stations when Starship is on track? What if the Stick was The Box and you built a colony that way, 4 or more layers of sticks connected into a grid, then a cube?
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I gave you a thumbs-up but that "space colony" of three concentric gimballing rings is idiotic. It exemplifies nothing you were discussing and would be totally impractical.
the videos he showed are completely off topic. Even I was confused.
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