Why Sonic 4 Sucks

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  • @Darksuperchaossonic
    @Darksuperchaossonic Před 6 lety +3408

    Sonic 1, 2 and 3 have ceiling running.
    Sonic 4 has ceiling walking, and occasionally ceiling standing.

    • @Shadic6098
      @Shadic6098 Před 6 lety +297

      Master of Bad Puns [Rai] Hell, ceiling standing can't even be called an new feature because Sonic 06 claimed that feature 4 years ahead of time.

    • @Unethical.Dodgson
      @Unethical.Dodgson Před 6 lety +158

      I think Sonic 06 claimed a lot of amazing features ahead of time. That game was the most feature complete sonic game. /joke

    • @whiz8569
      @whiz8569 Před 6 lety +38

      +Cao Cao
      Like rolling on a ball. I'm glad they bought that back.

    • @loadedsnail1936
      @loadedsnail1936 Před 6 lety +18

      Master of Bad Puns [Rai] and sonic 5 will have full on celling standing.

    • @DCNRS90YT
      @DCNRS90YT Před 6 lety +1

      Master of Bad Puns [Rai] Ceiling standing sounds impossible.

  • @megamax6004
    @megamax6004 Před 3 lety +3571

    The game doesn’t even feel like it’s an official sonic game.

  • @sanicsanic6890
    @sanicsanic6890 Před rokem +896

    "Maybe when Sonic Mania sells 15 billion copies, they'll let the mania team remaster sonic 3 and package them in a collection and release it on steam or something." aged like fine wine lol
    Edit: OH MY GOD HAVE YOU PEOPLE EVER HEARD OF SARCASM!?!?

    • @Tobunari
      @Tobunari Před rokem +84

      Yeah, but at the cost for the music - apparently not even Loremaster Cybershell could secure the music - no retainer, no car battery.
      Also - Sonic Origins is still bad.

    • @sanicsanic6890
      @sanicsanic6890 Před rokem +10

      @@Tobunari I know this comment wasn’t supposed to be taken seriously

    • @Tobunari
      @Tobunari Před rokem +6

      @@sanicsanic6890 Well you're not the only one saying it.

    • @sanicsanic6890
      @sanicsanic6890 Před rokem +4

      @@Tobunari oh

    • @pikachufrankie
      @pikachufrankie Před rokem +36

      Aged like milk. The origins remake of Sonic 3 was bad.

  • @wildberrysherbert3803
    @wildberrysherbert3803 Před rokem +226

    One thing to make you feel better about this: episode 1 was not meant to be Sonic 4, it was originally going to be a mobile exclusive titled Sonic the Portable, which you can tell by looking at the background in Casino Street Zone. But Sega being Sega just changed the name and made it available for consoles for the sake of boosting sales.

    • @superdean9966
      @superdean9966 Před rokem +1

      F you SEGA!

    • @OmeleaffeGaming
      @OmeleaffeGaming Před rokem +39

      Sega should've made it stay mobile exclusive

    • @wildberrysherbert3803
      @wildberrysherbert3803 Před rokem +7

      @@OmeleaffeGaming absolutely

    • @thejedisonic67
      @thejedisonic67 Před 7 měsíci +11

      decisions like that and the failure of sonic boom showed they learned none of the actual reasons why 06 failed, or in the formers case how they were cheapening the image of the brand without a shred of thought as to why without going to the dumbest scapegoats like humans existing, or sonic having a lot of friends

    • @SmashyGuySRB2
      @SmashyGuySRB2 Před 6 měsíci

      what bit of the Casino Street zone background tells about Sonic 4 was supposed to be a mobile exclusive

  • @shakenbake7777
    @shakenbake7777 Před 4 lety +8228

    I didn't know sega made flash games

  • @shahtayyib
    @shahtayyib Před 3 lety +1985

    This literally looks like it runs on Adobe flash

    • @daviepearie1092
      @daviepearie1092 Před 3 lety +38

      I mean when you get the game you have to use a launcher to play it on pc 😬

    • @k-leb4671
      @k-leb4671 Před 3 lety +75

      @@daviepearie1092 But a lot of PC games use a launcher. What are you trying to imply?

    • @Starpotion
      @Starpotion Před 3 lety +135

      That's an insult to Adobe flash tbh

    • @NvanRoblox
      @NvanRoblox Před 3 lety +16

      @@Starpotion He said that because it was made by sega so they could make this look better

    • @merkquavious2
      @merkquavious2 Před 3 lety +3

      @@daviepearie1092 what

  • @genarftheunfuni5227
    @genarftheunfuni5227 Před 10 měsíci +73

    My theory is that Sonic 4 was NOT intended to be Sonic 4, just a mobile game to have fun for a while and then forget about it (Sonic 4 ironically enough is better on Mobile than on consoles imo).
    But some degenerate decided to go "Hey Dimps, why don't you put this goofy game on consoles and advertise it as the 4th entry in the classic Sonic series?" and that's where everything went downhill.

    • @joeser6666
      @joeser6666 Před 10 měsíci +29

      that's not a theory, that's the truth

    • @hayato1886
      @hayato1886 Před 8 měsíci +15

      Considering the fact that in the background of the casino stage you can see an asset they didn't change that says Sonic the Portable, yeah. It was supposed to be a phone game that they ported to console for some reason

  • @RustyMew
    @RustyMew Před 10 měsíci +46

    Weird choice for them to dip Sonic’s model in Vaseline for this game, but, eh…

  • @sthgamer_
    @sthgamer_ Před 4 lety +2481

    Look, Sega literally said Sonic 4 sucks because in the Sonic Mania elevator thing, it went from 3, K, then Mania. They just pretended it doesn't exist.

    • @xx_th3_h0ly_sh1t_xx5
      @xx_th3_h0ly_sh1t_xx5 Před 4 lety +50

      Yep

    • @XErox7X
      @XErox7X Před 4 lety +121

      That was not saga, that was the person who made the animation. The people that run sage in Japan/Use, are retards. Sonic 4 sucks.

    • @sthgamer_
      @sthgamer_ Před 4 lety +70

      @@XErox7X Well, don't you think it's good they didn't include it?

    • @drsnuff6881
      @drsnuff6881 Před 4 lety +289

      It doesn’t even have CD

    • @sthgamer_
      @sthgamer_ Před 4 lety +87

      @@drsnuff6881 damn you're right

  • @pantelisfilippidis5179
    @pantelisfilippidis5179 Před 3 lety +1520

    Shame that sonic 4 fans cant play their favourite game now that flash is down

  • @InkyBoiArts
    @InkyBoiArts Před 10 měsíci +63

    The only good thing about Sonic 4 Ep 1 was when they ported it to Kindle, and Sonic had a unique waiting animation that wasn’t him tapping his foot, but jamming out to what looks like a smartphone, or at the least some sort of mp4/ music player. Sonic should get more unique idle animations, like in Frontiers

    • @tubaraofluente
      @tubaraofluente Před 3 měsíci +2

      what is the idle animation in Frontiers? I don't remember

    • @InkyBoiArts
      @InkyBoiArts Před 3 měsíci +5

      @@tubaraofluente in Fronteirs, it changes depending on where you are in the story
      At the beginning, it’s a typical Sonic idle
      In the middle when he’s getting corrupted, he looks tired, and near the end, he’s practically on his knees, barely able to stand, but after the game, it returns to normal. I can’t remember the other characters idle animations though

    • @Joshuatheidiot
      @Joshuatheidiot Před měsícem

      ​@@InkyBoiArts That was a really cool detail lol

  • @macrozs
    @macrozs Před rokem +129

    Episode 2 was my first ever sonic game, so it has a special place in my heart, but replaying it i could see how "less good" the game actuallly is. I mean it's fun (different from episode 1) and has some bang themes like the metal sonic one, and some cool original boss fights. So with all the flaws show'd in this video i give this game a 6/10 (5+1 point for nostalgia)

  • @VaerosTrash
    @VaerosTrash Před 2 lety +3908

    Fun Fact: Sonic 4's boss track was originally to appear in Sonic 3D blast, but Jon Burton (Sonic 3D Blast's game designer) claimed it was so fucking bad that was removed from the game very early on.

    • @Zakoxd.
      @Zakoxd. Před 2 lety +393

      Well technically it wasn't removed it just goes unused but yeah you're right
      I don't understand why dimps chose this shit out of all the boss tracks available
      They couldn't even make their own

    • @deadturret4049
      @deadturret4049 Před 2 lety +284

      The ost of this game is honestly beyond baffling.
      This is the same studio that made Sonic Rush, a game that is practically held together by its awesome soundtrack.

    • @JmKrokY
      @JmKrokY Před 2 lety +16

      Uh

    • @thesmilingman7576
      @thesmilingman7576 Před 2 lety +41

      Well at least he didn't add it in the director's cut

    • @elliotmidgley
      @elliotmidgley Před 2 lety +11

      Bruh

  • @vriska222
    @vriska222 Před 3 lety +932

    Every asset looks like it came from a completely different game.

    • @randomanimation2624
      @randomanimation2624 Před 3 lety +4

      I like your jojo icon

    • @goroakechi2216
      @goroakechi2216 Před 2 lety

      Because it was supposed to be mobile game

    • @vriska222
      @vriska222 Před 2 lety +1

      @@goroakechi2216 that doesnt excuse it

    • @goroakechi2216
      @goroakechi2216 Před 2 lety +2

      @@vriska222 but I still hate sonic 4
      Wait it makes sense
      Alot of game series the four games have to be bad
      Look at halo 4
      Or black ops 4

    • @Serek_Studios
      @Serek_Studios Před 2 lety +1

      @@goroakechi2216 everything after halo 3 was trash

  • @IMATIRE
    @IMATIRE Před 10 měsíci +23

    the fact sonic 4 has defenders makes laught so hard

  • @moodydoesstuff8198
    @moodydoesstuff8198 Před 2 lety +53

    POV: you’re checking The comments to see if anyone said the game is good

  • @tacoblude8208
    @tacoblude8208 Před 3 lety +742

    "Sonic 4 defense force"

    • @drago3036
      @drago3036 Před 3 lety +93

      Or, more accurately:
      "Sonic Forces me to defend this game"

    • @traktor420
      @traktor420 Před 3 lety +25

      Drago 303 at gun point

    • @ViperAcidZX
      @ViperAcidZX Před 3 lety +24

      Please tell me that's a mod for Earth Defense Force 4.

    • @cutman3931
      @cutman3931 Před 3 lety +10

      they can't prove that this game is objectively good

    • @guilhermehey3736
      @guilhermehey3736 Před 3 lety +2

      @@drago3036 Do you realize that you made a forces pun

  • @Krostian17Chile
    @Krostian17Chile Před 3 lety +2728

    "I can't respect a man who has no problem with the physics in Sonic 4"
    This guy spittin' facts

    • @hanezutchins2786
      @hanezutchins2786 Před 3 lety +102

      I like how Jim used "virgin" as an insult. News Flash Jim, some people will go their entire lives without feeling sexual attraction to anyone

    • @milkman2810
      @milkman2810 Před 2 lety +13

      @@hanezutchins2786 news flash moron, it’s a joke.

    • @smashmouthegg570
      @smashmouthegg570 Před 2 lety +6

      @@milkman2810 Some people stupid as fuck lmao.

    • @milkman2810
      @milkman2810 Před 2 lety +10

      @@smashmouthegg570 you know what, true

    • @deszalt4492
      @deszalt4492 Před 2 lety +46

      Lol, glad Jim has moved past saying dumb edgy junk like this. It would seem hypocritical now haha.

  • @SkewerKing
    @SkewerKing Před 5 měsíci +9

    "I wasn't even that harsh to the game, all I did was call it a pile of shit."
    -Cybershell, 2017

  • @beegsoder
    @beegsoder Před 11 měsíci +19

    This game makes 06 look like GOTY.

    • @darghamo7467
      @darghamo7467 Před 11 měsíci +1

      I'm sure you didn't play 06

    • @beegsoder
      @beegsoder Před 11 měsíci +7

      @@darghamo7467 I did.

    • @shiny8454
      @shiny8454 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@darghamo746706's graphics are better, but it's just way buggier and has bad story choices (kind of like Elise, a human character, kissing sonic, the hedgehog, on the fucking lips)

    • @PeruvianPotato
      @PeruvianPotato Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@shiny8454I mean at least 4 had a more consistent art style and didn't suffer from being an uncanny mid 2000s game with blurry textures and models that just look... off.

  • @steventechno
    @steventechno Před 4 lety +727

    "If this is Sonic 4, Why are we *regressing* in features?
    The Sims 4:

  • @AC3electrosphere
    @AC3electrosphere Před 3 lety +2721

    Being called a "confirmed virgin" by Jim Sterling of all people is fascinating to say the least.

    • @bernkastel7438
      @bernkastel7438 Před 3 lety +210

      No offense but he looks like one

    • @AC3electrosphere
      @AC3electrosphere Před 3 lety +195

      @@bernkastel7438 Yep, that's why I find it funny.

    • @cattysplat
      @cattysplat Před 3 lety +141

      @The Mutineers Considering it was Destructoid which all it had was edgy drama bait to flex on fanboys who had no way to respond outside of forum posts back then.

    • @themanwiththebabyhands4650
      @themanwiththebabyhands4650 Před 3 lety +193

      It's even funnier now that he's complaining that nobody is watching his videos or his shitty amateur wrestling crap.

    • @Nilaikx
      @Nilaikx Před 3 lety +94

      @@bernkastel7438 He looks like a giant baby
      *not calling him immature, he literally does

  • @Yeenuwu
    @Yeenuwu Před 7 měsíci +20

    Looks like a cereal box flash game from 1999.

    • @Joshuatheidiot
      @Joshuatheidiot Před měsícem

      That's not fair...
      Cereal box flash games have the excuse of being old.

    • @TheTacoManMaster
      @TheTacoManMaster Před 2 dny

      God damn absolute violation

  • @thedman1754
    @thedman1754 Před rokem +30

    Adressing fans who say "Dimps made rush and advance"
    Just because you make 2 good game series, does not mean everything you make is a masterpeice. its like a chef making 2 Amazing steaks, then taking a shit on the plate for the third and everyone loves it because the last 2 were amazing.

    • @Lexkiz
      @Lexkiz Před rokem +1

      Straight fucking facts

    • @Persac7
      @Persac7 Před rokem +1

      They are only good at Gameboy games
      They should stick to it

    • @thedman1754
      @thedman1754 Před 9 měsíci

      @@Persac7 Rush wasn't on gameboy though

    • @saaaiiiko
      @saaaiiiko Před 2 měsíci

      Reading this while glancing at your profile picture just makes me laugh for no fucking reason

    • @thedman1754
      @thedman1754 Před 2 měsíci

      @@saaaiiiko glad I could make you laugh dude

  • @SchmergDergen
    @SchmergDergen Před 2 lety +2497

    Didn’t know this game had defenders.

    • @goroakechi2216
      @goroakechi2216 Před 2 lety +21

      @@FlashbackGuyYT liar

    • @goroakechi2216
      @goroakechi2216 Před 2 lety +17

      @@FlashbackGuyYT they don't exist
      Anymore than

    • @JogG4DX
      @JogG4DX Před 2 lety +47

      1. They're retarded
      2. They're just a little baby boy and they don't know any better

    • @zennal2021
      @zennal2021 Před 2 lety +165

      Sonic boom show was decent, game sucked.

    • @zaikage7727
      @zaikage7727 Před 2 lety +3

      Fr

  • @Shirtgama
    @Shirtgama Před 3 lety +733

    Lmfao someone said "everyone likes sonic 4". They would've made that 3rd episode already if everyone liked it.

    • @furiousstudios4438
      @furiousstudios4438 Před 3 lety +25

      STOP IT, THEY’RE ALREADY DEEEEEAAAAD!

    • @marlosuper
      @marlosuper Před 3 lety +15

      some wacky people may think mania is sonic 4 episode 3 i mean there's a mod that labels it as such

    • @Shirtgama
      @Shirtgama Před 3 lety +26

      @John Stonik allegedly there was plan to make a third one as said in the video but it was cancelled due to the unpopularity of the first two parts and felt they should just give up on the whole sonic 4 idea in general

    • @hoodedman6579
      @hoodedman6579 Před 3 lety +5

      There are games that are very well-liked but did poorly financially, so they wouldn't get a sequel, such as Pyschonauts; Sonic 4 is obviously not an example of that.

    • @Shirtgama
      @Shirtgama Před 3 lety +5

      @@hoodedman6579 episode two is an example then

  • @Loopez_Gaming
    @Loopez_Gaming Před 9 měsíci +17

    stop being too lenient on this game, it deserves way worse.

  • @JSins_
    @JSins_ Před 10 měsíci +15

    The “Sonic 4 Defense Force” is literally just a bunch of 10yo kids typing swear words into the comment box.

  • @Unremarkable6969
    @Unremarkable6969 Před 2 lety +754

    Game Journalists who say Sonic have too many friends are jealous because they have none.

  • @S4nche
    @S4nche Před 4 lety +755

    I’m glad the “sonic 4 defense force” made cybershell do this video, cause he would’ve gone into hibernation and this video would never exist

    • @Paccyd33
      @Paccyd33 Před 4 lety +6

      Cyan Dave some people who actually like this game

    • @hyperthethiccboi8698
      @hyperthethiccboi8698 Před 3 lety +7

      @@Paccyd33 or as i Like to call them morons who have no taste in games and just think they are good because it has good graphics that's it

    • @legitknight30
      @legitknight30 Před 3 lety +26

      @@chorte Good graphics is not what I would use to describe Sonic 4.

    • @maverickagao
      @maverickagao Před 3 lety +5

      Looks like were on the good timeline, the legend is back

    • @legitknight30
      @legitknight30 Před 3 lety +2

      @@maverickagao When J.R.R Tolkien wrote Return of the King this is what he meant.

  • @YegoKroeten
    @YegoKroeten Před 8 měsíci +13

    I think the issue with the animations is that they're TOO fluid to convey speed. you can see sonics legs move at like 60fps and it just feels like he's dragging them. If they cut some frames out of the animation down to the keyframes, it could MAYBE animate well, but you can't save that model.

  • @SuperFreddy64-mp5ew
    @SuperFreddy64-mp5ew Před 20 dny +5

    BECAUSE SONIC 4 KILLED MY GRANDMA, OK?

  • @cumcockproductions6433
    @cumcockproductions6433 Před 3 lety +667

    The clownish boss music from episode 1 is actually an unused boss theme from sonic 3D blast. *I wonder why it was unused hmmmmmm HMMMMMMMM*

    • @JordanISmith
      @JordanISmith Před 3 lety +92

      I think it sounds good..... when you place it as joke music .

    • @cumcockproductions6433
      @cumcockproductions6433 Před 3 lety +7

      @@JordanISmith true

    • @gabrielhenry7237
      @gabrielhenry7237 Před 3 lety +73

      Fun Fact:People called it Eggman’s Gay Circus when they didn’t know what it was

    • @ohjoshua67
      @ohjoshua67 Před 2 lety +9

      That theme felt like something was going crazy in a circus… UGH.

    • @_G.C
      @_G.C Před 2 lety +11

      @@gabrielhenry7237 Oh so like the big gay dance for dedede. Ytp's were something else

  • @monkie7185
    @monkie7185 Před 4 lety +615

    I actually thought this was a bad fangame for so long oh my god

    • @gneu1527
      @gneu1527 Před 4 lety +25

      Don't say to this guy that this is a sega game.

    • @zalewa6220
      @zalewa6220 Před 3 lety +2

      XD

    • @doomxprie
      @doomxprie Před 3 lety +2

      @@gneu1527 Hey, your from the Piggy Sucks vid!

    • @PeruvianPotato
      @PeruvianPotato Před 3 lety +1

      @@doomxprie What?

    • @doomxprie
      @doomxprie Před 3 lety

      @@PeruvianPotato She was in a piggy sucks video

  • @AbruptAvalanche
    @AbruptAvalanche Před 10 měsíci +11

    The worst part is that they had the gall to name it Sonic 4, as though this game stands shoulder to shoulder with the genesis trilogy. If they had called it "Sonic Mobile" or something, I think it would be less hated. You could more easily write it off for what it is - a low budget game for phones.
    It also sucks that now there can never be a proper Sonic 4 (something Mania probably could've been). They likely won't make a Sonic 5 either, as to not draw attention back to this pile of garbage. Sega ruined any potential for numbered Sonic games.

  • @fe2k10
    @fe2k10 Před rokem +13

    The Sonic Advance trilogy was the real Sonic 4 for me.

  • @gooperrr6955
    @gooperrr6955 Před 3 lety +823

    Now lets listen to Sonic 4’s boss theme
    *Tik Tok ad plays*

    • @MysteriousCowboyOfTheInternet
      @MysteriousCowboyOfTheInternet Před 3 lety +88

      Dang, the boss theme is so bad youtube thinks you'd rather watch a tik tok ad than hear it

    • @M_ZS19
      @M_ZS19 Před 3 lety +15

      @@MysteriousCowboyOfTheInternet I would.

    • @nil8659
      @nil8659 Před 3 lety +9

      @@MysteriousCowboyOfTheInternet I would

    • @spookskeley
      @spookskeley Před 3 lety +11

      Sonic 4 boss music is basically tiktoc dance thing where people would someone would dress up like a clown

    • @barreldancer3505
      @barreldancer3505 Před 2 lety +3

      @@MysteriousCowboyOfTheInternet I would

  • @comedicidiot
    @comedicidiot Před 3 lety +660

    "No series that released with an episode one only planned to have 2 episodes."
    *cries in Half-Life*

    • @comedicidiot
      @comedicidiot Před 2 lety +4

      @@flordelizhawk358 What?

    • @comedicidiot
      @comedicidiot Před 2 lety +29

      @@flordelizhawk358 Yeah, that kinda the point of the "cries in Half-Life"

    • @comedicidiot
      @comedicidiot Před 2 lety +17

      @@flordelizhawk358 I can see how that mix up could happen. Sorry for the confusion.

    • @fishingrod2253
      @fishingrod2253 Před 2 lety +11

      ironically enough sonic 4 was gonna get a episode 3 too
      the god damn irony

    • @basilplushie2534
      @basilplushie2534 Před 2 lety +1

      Hey half life Alex exist

  • @kajetanguss
    @kajetanguss Před 2 lety +21

    24:10 Like that's ever gonna happen. Right ?

  • @ajflink
    @ajflink Před rokem +34

    I enjoyed Episode II of Sonic 4 because it was actually fun and did not feel like an early alpha or prototype like Episode I is. I see the potential behind this game if the team behind Sonic 4 was given more time to work on the game and more thorough testing was done. Does this excuse the final state and episodic nature of Sonic 4? No. To be honest, episodic games, unless you were Tell Tale, always seemed to end prematurely.

    • @notunnamed2
      @notunnamed2 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Yep. All of them except Telltales.
      But at the same time, Telltale ended prematurely so 💀💀

  • @soupalex
    @soupalex Před 3 lety +443

    sonic 1, 2, 3: [gets hit] [throws rings up in an arc so the player can try to retrieve some of them]
    sonic 4: [gets hit] [throws rings down, through the floor]

  • @MarCelo-sf6xt
    @MarCelo-sf6xt Před 2 lety +2655

    3 years later and people are still mad about this video. True masterpiece
    Edit: My god this comment is nearly as old as the video was when I commented it. How the hell has it been 6 years

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 Před 2 lety +120

      These people were just jealous because they couldn’t make a valid video like Cybershell here! 😄

    • @ZephyrUltimate_
      @ZephyrUltimate_ Před 2 lety +44

      @@kieranstark7213 true subscriber energy right here 🥇

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 Před 2 lety +5

      I have over a hundred subs

    • @funnigreenman8511
      @funnigreenman8511 Před 2 lety +19

      Amazing this video is A true masterpeice

    • @Raymanlegacy
      @Raymanlegacy Před 2 lety +10

      @@kieranstark7213 very true

  • @bloodykenshiro8218
    @bloodykenshiro8218 Před 10 měsíci +19

    I'm surprised you got so much flak. I didn't even know Sonic 4 had defenders to begin with; an oddI surprise that was.
    In my head, Mania is Sonic 4, and even it has some issues, so the less said about this dunpster fire of a game that casually got the number, the better.

  • @mredbadger
    @mredbadger Před 7 měsíci +10

    Someone at Sega has seen this

  • @daultimatenug453
    @daultimatenug453 Před 3 lety +667

    "the sonic 4 physics weren't that bad"
    i bet ya this guy loved 06's physics as well

    • @user-ip7xe7hp5w
      @user-ip7xe7hp5w Před 3 lety +54

      Sonic 0’6 was actually pretty fun. Abusing all the glitches was the best lmao.

    • @daultimatenug453
      @daultimatenug453 Před 3 lety +14

      @EggCraft @Jude Johnson I can agree this game was acutally fun when you abused the physics and did the craziest stuff, although some of the bugs didn't help out much

    • @Squishito
      @Squishito Před 3 lety +32

      @Jude Johnson 06 didn't even _have_ physics, it was just like 4 pretty much but in 3D. It's worse actually. 06 is to the Adventure games what 4 is to the classics. 06 had no momentum, you couldn't even roll to build speed. You ran at the same set speed always no matter what, with a completely straight, stiff, momentum cutting air dash and an absolutely butchered spindash with zero functionality. Every loop or running segment had to lock you into basically a cutscene where you had zero input. This was because thanks to the state of the games physics, the characters were not capable of building momentum or accelerating past their hard speed cap normally.

    • @daultimatenug453
      @daultimatenug453 Před 3 lety +4

      @Isaiah Zialo we all have opinions
      learn to respect them
      (i like 06)

    • @Vadim-Z
      @Vadim-Z Před 2 lety +6

      In all hindsight, I see why 06 was bad because glitches etc. As a kid, I never cared for the glitches and just abused them, but people are kinda assholes, they CAN not make a game look bad BY DOING GLITCHES INTENTIONALLY!!! The game glitches barely even happened either.
      But I could see what it was going for, personally the story was just beautiful, (Ignore the Sonic x Elise shit.) And I really like the Sonic 06 model, and the soundtrack, MMMMMMMM it's fucking awesome, I loved all the missions there was, shadow, sonic, and silver, all amazing in there own ways.
      I get some of the speed was off, but it felt natural for mach speed sonic. And just look at P-06 (Project-06) it made it all better, animations, some prefixes to physics and overal character expressiveness, and the the quality.

  • @Kemuja
    @Kemuja Před 3 lety +1115

    "Sonic 4 Defense Force" sounds like a crappy Sonic Tower Defense fan game.

  • @Xvladin
    @Xvladin Před rokem +12

    Jim Sterling really went off the deep end

    • @PeruvianPotato
      @PeruvianPotato Před 2 měsíci

      In more ways than one if you think about it.

  • @waterbears9874
    @waterbears9874 Před 9 měsíci +6

    The art style feels like if sega wanted to make sonic in a new super Mario bros style, but it’s just ever so slightly wrong

  • @ja-vishaara
    @ja-vishaara Před 3 lety +485

    Therapist: "Sonic walking gently up a vertical slope doesn't exist. He can't hurt you."
    Sonic 4:

    • @luk_143
      @luk_143 Před 2 lety +9

      Ahhhh! He exists!

    • @oscar9680
      @oscar9680 Před rokem

      and there's people who defend this game. imagine that. true fucking lunatics

    • @impartialknockback
      @impartialknockback Před rokem +10

      Sonic walking gently upside down is even worse

    • @yourself1210
      @yourself1210 Před rokem

      Sonic frontiers:

    • @TheTacoManMaster
      @TheTacoManMaster Před 2 dny

      @@yourself1210don’t you dare compare sonic frontiers to sonic 4

  • @OfficialMilk
    @OfficialMilk Před 2 lety +907

    Fun fact: a few weeks before release the ENTIRE GAME of episode 2 was leaked with the only difference being a “to be continued” screen after the credits. So the death egg not exploding was supposed to lead into an episode 3.

    • @valletas
      @valletas Před 2 lety +173

      Lol gotta love how a few weeks before release they decided "fuck this shit we arent making any episode 3"

    • @zanmaru139
      @zanmaru139 Před 2 lety +182

      I'm sure this was devastating to both of Sonic 4's fans.

    • @theonetruefusion8533
      @theonetruefusion8533 Před rokem

      @@zanmaru139 you suck at wording

    • @DomaldVale
      @DomaldVale Před rokem +3

      @@valletas oh same with Diddy Kong racing but way sadder

    • @VincentVincent_89
      @VincentVincent_89 Před rokem +1

      @@valletas lmao

  • @vansglitches1192
    @vansglitches1192 Před 11 měsíci +6

    Nah sonic literally walks at the speed of his running, he can walk on walls and cielings, sonic 4 turned him into spider man, the physics💀💀

  • @thomasobrien1841
    @thomasobrien1841 Před rokem +12

    A lot of this makes sense when you learn that this game was originally going to be a mobile spinoff with no association to the classics

  • @djuv4375
    @djuv4375 Před 2 lety +552

    The difference between the bad of sonic 4 and sonic 06 is that sonics brokeness is actually fun.

    • @eattheboard1684
      @eattheboard1684 Před 2 lety +121

      06 also had the basic coding aesthetics of Sonic games, Sonic 4 didn’t even have momentum or inertia, heck, Sonic could walk up walls as if he’s Spider-Man in this game.

    • @diamondyoshi6649
      @diamondyoshi6649 Před 2 lety +15

      in which one?

    • @georgiepig5726
      @georgiepig5726 Před 2 lety +17

      Yeah and sonics gem meter wasn't programmed correctly so he has unlimited gem powers

    • @Man_Aslume
      @Man_Aslume Před rokem +8

      That's why me and the unappreciated sonic game council have disowned sonic 4 and only kept 06

    • @RiversLiver
      @RiversLiver Před rokem +7

      That's why I like Sonic 06.

  • @sk00ks41
    @sk00ks41 Před 6 lety +1299

    This legit looks like a game in one of those banner ads on newgrounds or something with all those bootleg sonic flash games. But no, they sold it. For actual money.

    • @dingledorf887
      @dingledorf887 Před 6 lety +19

      Sk00ks glad i aint the only one

    • @calvinismail9507
      @calvinismail9507 Před 6 lety +16

      true I used to play those at my grandmas house

    • @Supersonicspyro
      @Supersonicspyro Před 6 lety +2

      Sk00ks then you need your eyes checked, because this does not look like a flash game

    • @memessuce9016
      @memessuce9016 Před 6 lety +28

      Supersonicspyro Will lol it looks it's fucking awful they fused all games, threw out all the good features and added more awful features because there we're not enough bad features and idiots like you still like and I don't even fucking know why

    • @Supersonicspyro
      @Supersonicspyro Před 6 lety +2

      GameNiac lol, I don't think it looks awful, and people like you are the problem with the fanbase, forcing your opinion on others acting as if your opinion is almighty fact, this video is entirely subjective, there is absolutely no objective constructive evidence as to why they're bad, and he says people are retarded for liking it, this video made me lose brain cells over how retarded it was

  • @DMHim299
    @DMHim299 Před 2 měsíci +6

    I searched up "cybershell sonic 4" and his mania video didn't pop up, what's going on? What is this!?

  • @anactualplant9574
    @anactualplant9574 Před 3 lety +283

    “They gave tails some sort of degenerative muscle disease” you are awesome dude

  • @Squishito
    @Squishito Před 5 lety +516

    Just come back Cybershell, no ones even going to be mad, just come back and pretend like nothing happened. You said you were just going to get cigarettes but you've been gone a year, my Mum has been seeing other Sonic channels and I don't like them, I miss you Cybershell.
    Edit: Dad returned, I am sated. I will return to my slumber.

  • @Lurdiak
    @Lurdiak Před rokem +12

    We now know that it was Sonic Team's horrible idea to turn what was planned to be a very low budget mobile Sonic game into "Sonic 4" for marketing reasons, so Dimps doesn't get as much of the blame for this awful game as they used to.

  • @sunvinn
    @sunvinn Před rokem +15

    Cybershell's videos have insane replay value, I've came here for a laugh like 4 or 5 times already.

    • @Ollimus
      @Ollimus Před rokem +2

      Agreed

    • @jack-l1gma
      @jack-l1gma Před 4 měsíci

      same, must be the 100th+ time i've seen this. man has a way with words😭

  • @somehelluvafanboy8357
    @somehelluvafanboy8357 Před 3 lety +348

    16:57 "Oil Ocean's looking a lot more like Sand Ocean right now"

    • @Fi___
      @Fi___ Před 3 lety +7

      Nice

    • @folorbipple624
      @folorbipple624 Před 3 lety +15

      when sonic said that sand hill line in forces I shut off the game and I still haven't booted it back up

    • @Fi___
      @Fi___ Před 3 lety +5

      @@folorbipple624 i just thought "sure sonic"

    • @nanucinos2107
      @nanucinos2107 Před 3 lety +5

      i hate and love this comment

    • @ObviousTrollFrom2007
      @ObviousTrollFrom2007 Před 3 lety +8

      "Why?" -Sad Dunkey

  • @dabluepittoo-aqua4213
    @dabluepittoo-aqua4213 Před 4 lety +313

    Funnily enough, the reason Episode 1's boss music wasn't used back in 3D Blast was because the main director didn't _like it,_ confirming that not even the staff likes the soundtrack of Sonic 4.

    • @saltee3040
      @saltee3040 Před 4 lety +6

      But 3d blast was made by travellers tales and Sonic 4 was made by Dimps

    • @eyeconqueror1185
      @eyeconqueror1185 Před 4 lety

      @@TheTomatoWatcher everyone makes mistakes

    • @LonelySpaceDetective
      @LonelySpaceDetective Před 3 lety +2

      I thought it was the lead programmer who didn't like it, though. Or am I misremembering Jon/GameHut's video about Sonic 3D Blast facts?

  • @Andressennn909
    @Andressennn909 Před rokem +14

    Plastic green hill zone

  • @lucariothehorrorguy5641
    @lucariothehorrorguy5641 Před rokem +11

    This game has a higher metacritic score than Unleashed, Colors and Generations. Wtf

  • @Golden-pm8sn
    @Golden-pm8sn Před 3 lety +1037

    "you can't even begin to comprehend my autism power level"
    Loved that line lol

    • @lloydthehedgehogirving6049
      @lloydthehedgehogirving6049 Před 3 lety +13

      Me: *Are you challenging me?*

    • @Mrneedlem0use2009
      @Mrneedlem0use2009 Před 3 lety

      Yeah I agree golden

    • @luginess0
      @luginess0 Před 2 lety +7

      22:29

    • @asteria9963
      @asteria9963 Před 2 lety +21

      @Olivia 757 I don't, and I am autistic. Maybe grow a spine?

    • @TheQuashingoftheTub
      @TheQuashingoftheTub Před 2 lety +44

      @Olivia 757 I'm autistic myself, and I always feel seconhand embarrasment when someone gets mad at the mere _concept_ of even using the word autistic.
      It wasn't even in a negative connotation, dude.

  • @LUKASISNOWONLINE
    @LUKASISNOWONLINE Před 2 lety +405

    I hate the attitude some "games journalists" have where we should just be happy with whatever garbage they give us, we deserve to have games we actually want to buy, they don't make them out of charity they're 80 bucks for fucks sake

    • @Wilbyheh
      @Wilbyheh Před 2 lety +11

      dont worry every 5 years or so we get a somewhat decent sonic game
      every 5 years or so

    • @nman551
      @nman551 Před 2 lety +13

      *glares at forces*

    • @dram3579
      @dram3579 Před 2 lety +1

      I don’t really see this comment relating to this video

    • @okarowarrior
      @okarowarrior Před 2 lety +7

      @@dram3579 you didnt even watched the video, then

    • @satriosukarji1777
      @satriosukarji1777 Před 2 lety +11

      @@dram3579 Did you not watch past 7 minutes? He pulls up a 2010 article when the game came out where a journalist does exactly that.

  • @thatoneshortsonicartist
    @thatoneshortsonicartist Před 11 měsíci +7

    Sonic 4 isn't trash, it's a landfill

  • @stefanssmellsvictory105
    @stefanssmellsvictory105 Před 11 měsíci +25

    If Jim Sterling like this game, then that's evidence enough that this game is fucking horrible!

  • @xx_th3_h0ly_sh1t_xx5
    @xx_th3_h0ly_sh1t_xx5 Před 3 lety +316

    We did it boys, after years of bitching this vid has reached a million views
    I can now retire peacefully

  • @seldomstudios6351
    @seldomstudios6351 Před 6 lety +316

    sonic: what's this
    Fanbase: a well thought out and organised LIST OF COMPLAINTS!

    • @scarlysix5034
      @scarlysix5034 Před 6 lety +10

      My stuff is never well thought out and organised, im a simple guy who likes Touhou, Pokemon, Zelda, Kirby, Megaman X, and a little bit of Sonic from time to time...

    • @ATerriblePlayer
      @ATerriblePlayer Před 6 lety +19

      Seldom Studios Nice Spongebob Reference

    • @NeoGraena
      @NeoGraena Před 6 lety +11

      Seldom Studios the sonic fanbase is: "HERES MY ORIGINAL CHARACTER!!!!"

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 Před 6 lety +2

      Touhou, Pokemon, Zelda, Kirby, MegaMan X and Classic Sonic the Hedgehog FTW!!!! Come at me, Sonic 4 Defense Squad!!!!!!

    • @brazencoronet17
      @brazencoronet17 Před 4 lety +1

      @@kieranstark7213 Sonic 4 episode 1 is a game with great replay value, and is fun time to time. the level design is sound and the graphics aren't too terrible, though still pretty below avrerage. Even mania didsn't scrap it completely with the ziplines from act 2. Sonic 4 ep. 1 is a good game

  • @ThrackerZ0d
    @ThrackerZ0d Před 3 měsíci +4

    i forgot how much Cybershell used to swear lol, but you can see it was a different time when he drops the R word out of nowhere, i do miss this time of youtube, but i'm glad it's gone nowdays, i wonder how he feels with this video now.

  • @moreedcola6837
    @moreedcola6837 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Now we have Sonic Superstars and Sonic Mania, Sonic 4 is now irrelevant and forgotten.

  • @ShallowHydra
    @ShallowHydra Před 6 lety +302

    3:00
    You...
    you monster.
    you left one ring.

  • @MrCrossa
    @MrCrossa Před 5 lety +515

    Roses are red,
    violets are blue,
    6:14

  • @mush4326
    @mush4326 Před rokem +7

    I wonder why 4 wasn’t a number on the sonic mania elevator

  • @ImmSpiderman2428
    @ImmSpiderman2428 Před 4 měsíci +4

    “At least it isn’t as bad as Sonic 06” They’re right. It’s even worse

    • @gabrielsofta944
      @gabrielsofta944 Před 2 měsíci

      Nah man you clearly haven't played 06. Obviously both games are bad, but at least you can beat Sonic 4 without encountering some bugs and glitches

  • @jinglejangle1533
    @jinglejangle1533 Před 3 lety +160

    Holly fuck i remember playing this on a retro games website and i thought it was a fan game

    • @nil8659
      @nil8659 Před 3 lety +23

      sonic fan-games aren't this shitty,you know

    • @dalton5229
      @dalton5229 Před 2 lety +3

      I like how we have solid evidence now that a fan game literally has the potential to be better than anything Sonic Team has done in like 30 years.

  • @WailingGecko
    @WailingGecko Před 3 lety +198

    Why does the game look like Walmart made the entire game

    • @DiagonalTanooki
      @DiagonalTanooki Před 3 lety +2

      @@Clover12469 shut up reddit

    • @Clover12469
      @Clover12469 Před 3 lety

      @Nobody comments are not funny you troglodyte who said I was

    • @Clover12469
      @Clover12469 Před 3 lety

      @@DiagonalTanooki I'm not reddit

    • @burgerweegy5121
      @burgerweegy5121 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Clover12469 ok what did u say and why did u delete it

    • @burgerweegy5121
      @burgerweegy5121 Před 2 lety +2

      @@DiagonalTanooki what did they say

  • @thepizzaman6310
    @thepizzaman6310 Před 10 měsíci +5

    "If you like sonic 4, thats not fine, this is a personal attack on on anyone who likes this game"

  • @Tiger21820
    @Tiger21820 Před 2 lety +11

    I believe that depending on how many zones a Sonic game has and the length of each act, should decide how many acts a zone should have! Sonic the Hedgehog doesn't have that many zones in it, and the acts are somewhat short, so I think 3 acts are plenty for that game! Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 & Knuckles have many zones, (and in Sonic 3 & Knuckles' case, LONG ACTS) so 2 acts are good enough! While I would say that this game has few enough zones for 3 acts to be suitable, due to the reputation of this game, even 2 acts could be too many! 3 act zones balance out Sonic games that have fewer zones with shorter acts (though I'm not sure that this principal should apply to this one!)!

  • @TheWeeabooCrewGamers
    @TheWeeabooCrewGamers Před 2 lety +72

    It looks like Vinesauce Joel typed in "cool sonic toolbars" in a windows destruction video and this is what he got

  • @homerhat420
    @homerhat420 Před 9 měsíci +5

    This video is a certified hood classic

  • @joewilliams-un8vu
    @joewilliams-un8vu Před 9 měsíci +5

    I don’t get why people try to defend Sonic 4 just because it was their childhood. Sonic 4 Episode 2 was one of the first games I ever played and I still think it is fairly mediocre.

  • @BradyToons
    @BradyToons Před 3 lety +330

    “I wasn’t even that harsh to the game...I only called it a pile of shit”😂😂whenever I’m having a bad day, I watch this vid

    • @TailzDMW
      @TailzDMW Před 2 lety +1

      Same

    • @DomaldVale
      @DomaldVale Před rokem

      I would get a bad day watching this video

    • @TailzDMW
      @TailzDMW Před rokem +1

      @@DomaldVale L

    • @DomaldVale
      @DomaldVale Před rokem

      @@TailzDMW ??

    • @TailzDMW
      @TailzDMW Před rokem +1

      @@DomaldVale Why would you get a bad day watching this vid it’s fucking hilarious 😭😭😂😂

  • @mozardthebest
    @mozardthebest Před 6 lety +181

    I used to like Sonic 4, but after a while you realize what it is. A claimed "sequel" to the Genesis games that
    -introduce no interesting fun mechanics that aren't forced gimmicks(super combo thing)
    -no new level themes or environments, there's not a good original idea in any of these games, everything is based of a past game
    -the fact that there's no originality is shitty on its own, but what really drives that point in is the fact that this game has nothing to stand on, nothing to make it any better than the gems of the Genesis, it takes all of their ideas and adds:
    -shitty, shallow level design full of bottomless pits and speed boosters(because the physics are so bad that's the only way to get speed)
    -physics that are a far cry from the Genesis games, as the sense of control and speed I once had are gone, and tries to replicate that with constant speed boosters, but it doesn't work
    -bosses that are either shameless copies(Ep 1) or drag on too long(Ep 2)
    -and music that tries to sound like the Genesis games, but forgot to be good and catchy
    Sonic 4 just pisses me off, the fact that they aren't very good games to begin with is one thing, but the fact that they advertise themselves as "sequels" to some of my favorite games ever, is salt on the wound. The game only tries to appeal to nostalgia, and once that wears off, you realize that the game is shit. An imposter that doesn't deserve to be mentioned as part of the classic games.

    • @inwencja2009
      @inwencja2009 Před 6 lety +7

      Thanks.

    • @TheHomieLew
      @TheHomieLew Před 6 lety +16

      It only takes a minute or two to read, and yet it's several times more competent in addressing the point than an almost 25-minute video.

    • @austinreed7343
      @austinreed7343 Před 5 lety +1

      mozardthebest
      Other games before Mania, even those that also used the modern designs and weren’t advertised as follow ups to the originals, were better at this!

    • @charmyzard
      @charmyzard Před 5 lety +3

      Exactly the points Cyber made.

    • @elijahbradley704
      @elijahbradley704 Před 5 lety

      mozardthebest it is the same with me.

  • @Mapachedepan
    @Mapachedepan Před rokem +23

    I discovered your channel a year ago, a while after that I had a weird brain thing that almost killed me, of course the first thing I did after coming home the next day was watching this video, although for some reason I wasn't able to keep up with everything you were saying it still cheered me up, so thanks for making videos of this blue cartoon rat

    • @mrcosmos6986
      @mrcosmos6986 Před rokem +8

      i hope you get well soon bro

    • @Adventureruler
      @Adventureruler Před rokem +1

      He’s not a rat! He’s a hedgehog! 😎

    • @gareno6713
      @gareno6713 Před rokem +2

      The same people that made Sonic 4 probably made your brain as well.

    • @Mapachedepan
      @Mapachedepan Před rokem +2

      @@gareno6713 fucking dimps

    • @exceedexceed760
      @exceedexceed760 Před rokem +3

      @@gareno6713 Yo brooo. That's crazy. U didn't have to do this man like that bro. lol

  • @watcherofcontent806
    @watcherofcontent806 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I come back to this video every once in a while. Absolutely hilarious and true. I wonder what do you think of Sonic Superstars so far?

  • @TeamDoodleBlocks
    @TeamDoodleBlocks Před 6 lety +654

    Seems like sonic shoes stick to everything...
    He should put on his *SOAP* shoes.

  • @clovergambit3051
    @clovergambit3051 Před 2 lety +738

    Accepting a game like this is the reason why we got sonic forces.

    • @DomaldVale
      @DomaldVale Před rokem +18

      Actually colors ultimate and gender why the fatherless community exist
      Edit: Why did I talk about genders LOL

    • @ky-maniyoung5734
      @ky-maniyoung5734 Před rokem +7

      Why sega why did you have to make a game so bad

    • @DomaldVale
      @DomaldVale Před rokem +4

      @@ky-maniyoung5734 I agree 50% and disagree 50%

    • @ky-maniyoung5734
      @ky-maniyoung5734 Před rokem +3

      @@DomaldVale I'm only 10 years old

    • @ky-maniyoung5734
      @ky-maniyoung5734 Před rokem +1

      If you fully expect the game you are insane

  • @speore
    @speore Před 10 měsíci +4

    9:11 aged like fine wine

  • @blackwhole3389
    @blackwhole3389 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Back when cybershell wasnt sponsered by sega

  • @Slick_Tails
    @Slick_Tails Před 3 lety +181

    Why does the special roll technique look like Sonic and Tails are 69'ing?
    And yeah, I played episode 1 and couldn't stand it. Utter trash. Thank the chilli gods for Mania.

  • @froghatvampirate
    @froghatvampirate Před 4 lety +363

    "You can't even begin to comprehend my autism power level."

  • @joeyboi
    @joeyboi Před 3 měsíci +3

    the vitriolic hatred presented in this video is how you know someone is a true fan of a game series. a masterpiece

    • @carlsagan2607
      @carlsagan2607 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Him calling out that journalist like that was just priceless

  • @wiiwheel523
    @wiiwheel523 Před rokem +5

    Rumor has it that the Sonic 4 Defense Force is still lurking in the shadows to this very day

  • @flynndemeeuw
    @flynndemeeuw Před 5 lety +135

    How to get splash hill in generations
    -play green hill with splash hill music

  • @donato8983
    @donato8983 Před 6 lety +241

    Plot twist:
    It was just a social experiment

  • @luccman9311
    @luccman9311 Před rokem +5

    defenders: ITS A GOOD GAME WITH GOOD PHYSICS AND YOU'RE WRONG
    also sonic casually jogging upside down

  • @liam4736
    @liam4736 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Clearly sonic 4 episode 2 is a 2/10 because it's episode 2, and episode 1 is a 1/10 because it's episode 1, so we just need to wait until sonic 4 episode 10 for the series to become a masterpiece 😎

  • @hankenthusiast6187
    @hankenthusiast6187 Před 4 lety +334

    Sonic 4 is so bad that Sonic mania didn't feature it in the elevator. -Nathaniel bandy