A Farewell to the Sonic Comic (1992-2017)

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  • čas přidán 7. 06. 2017
  • Patreon: / cybershell
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    Music from: Tee Lopes (the fucking god of sonic music), NicoCW, Plasma3Music, Sonic Adventure 1
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    EDIT: It was officially cancelled on 7/19/17, but it was announced IDW will be publishing a new Sonic comic in 2018 (possibly with some old staff returning like Flynn/Hesse/ABT?) so look forward to that.
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  • @knucklestheguardian9890
    @knucklestheguardian9890 Před 7 lety +4891

    oh no

    • @SendyTheEndless
      @SendyTheEndless Před 7 lety +219

      That's NO GOOD

    • @vtipoman
      @vtipoman Před 7 lety +98

      Looks like.. you just took some damage

    • @snoc637
      @snoc637 Před 7 lety +121

      IT'S NO USE!

    • @MrArach666
      @MrArach666 Před 7 lety +92

      No way,I can´t believe this!

    • @SuperXzm
      @SuperXzm Před 7 lety +40

      Go back to your floating island, echidnerd!

  • @koshi6505
    @koshi6505 Před 5 lety +1735

    Remember that time when Tails hesitated to JFK Robotnik?

    • @koolbelzero116
      @koolbelzero116 Před 4 lety +28

      Brandon Pack what

    • @rodolfocrespo4840
      @rodolfocrespo4840 Před 4 lety

      @@koolbelzero116 Do you seriously not understand the joke.

    • @koolbelzero116
      @koolbelzero116 Před 4 lety +3

      @@rodolfocrespo4840 no

    • @rodolfocrespo4840
      @rodolfocrespo4840 Před 4 lety +21

      @@koolbelzero116 Okay, okay, allow me to explain.
      The joke is supposed to imply, with satire and a little bit of deceptive truth, that Tails could have potentially reenacted the events of what happened on the assassination of president John F. Kennedy, which involved him being taken down with one cruel shot from a rifle. This is similar to what could have happened as seen in the comic (and in the video, of which you may have to find for yourself, as I only have time to explain the general joke itself), where Tails holds up a rifle and has it's crosshairs targeting Robotnik's back, which although is not his head (as was the case of JFK's assassination), can be ridiculously compared to the events of when John F. Kennedy was assassinated.
      There, I saved you a few hours from history class right now.

    • @koolbelzero116
      @koolbelzero116 Před 4 lety +24

      @@rodolfocrespo4840 thanks, what issue of the comic did that happen?

  • @DrGandW
    @DrGandW Před 3 lety +1980

    “Sonic truly understands the meaning of war...” is the most mind bending sentence to ever be written seriously

    • @KareemHillJr
      @KareemHillJr Před 3 lety +203

      "Hey, guys! War is where the young and bitter are tricked by the old and stupid into killing each other!"
      - Sonic the Hedgehog, 2008

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 Před 3 lety +28

      @@KareemHillJr Is he wrong?

    • @idontcheckmynotifications
      @idontcheckmynotifications Před 3 lety +21

      *For the first time in his life...*

    • @ryanm.8720
      @ryanm.8720 Před 3 lety +82

      "None of this is good, Vector. That's why it's called war."
      - Knuckles, Sonic Forces

    • @alwaysangry2232
      @alwaysangry2232 Před 2 lety +9

      hilarious then, hilarious now

  • @jakegooldverschoylewhelan8982
    @jakegooldverschoylewhelan8982 Před 5 lety +2079

    so cybershell is finally dead. after all these years. its technically not dead but on an indefinite hiatus .

  • @ianpotto
    @ianpotto Před 6 lety +5236

    Late as hell to the party, but thanks for the kind words and the shout-out.

    • @Wheeljack84
      @Wheeljack84 Před 4 lety +88

      Quick question, why did Archie end the Mega Man comic book? That question has always bugged me.

    • @redlol123
      @redlol123 Před 4 lety +126

      Too bad you showed up after Cybershell died, lmao.
      BTW big Archie Sonic fan. Your work at IDW never captured my interest in the same way but keep it up.

    • @RoyalKnightVIII
      @RoyalKnightVIII Před 4 lety +36

      I wonder does Ian know what dimensional rift Cybershell disappeared into?!

    • @Not-Kirbo2
      @Not-Kirbo2 Před 4 lety +35

      He's not dead he's still hibernating

    • @hendix2200
      @hendix2200 Před 4 lety +9

      Still lying about the mandetes?

  • @Rednax35
    @Rednax35 Před 6 lety +3100

    My favorite part of the early Sonic Comics were small little boxes in the corners of the front page, with my favorite one being Robotnik in the corner box and saying "Today the corner box, and tomorrow the world!"

  • @ChillavaKirby
    @ChillavaKirby Před 3 lety +125

    "Last night I dreamt I was engaged to a red echidna named--"
    "Knuckles?"
    "Yes how did you know?"
    "I had the same dream"
    I know it's not what they meant but I just fucking laughed out loud at the idea of Sonic having a dream where he marries Knuckles

    • @SteadyxSword
      @SteadyxSword Před rokem +7

      Too many chili dogs before bed.

    • @CptJistuce
      @CptJistuce Před 4 měsíci +1

      I also laughed at the idea of Sonic and Knuckles getting married.

  • @Hynotama
    @Hynotama Před 4 lety +1748

    Ken Penders is the embodiment of deviant art OC cringe.

    • @idontknowwhattoputhere7017
      @idontknowwhattoputhere7017 Před 3 lety +55

      I never realized that until now that’s kinda strange

    • @magjh2662
      @magjh2662 Před 3 lety +6

      That's why I will never watch my old loreless shows again, making your own or looking at made by me is a waste. I can't type something that don't sound improper. I stink at long stories

    • @magjh2662
      @magjh2662 Před 3 lety +1

      I could write joke stories where they sound so ridiculous it's funny as a hobby

    • @magjh2662
      @magjh2662 Před 3 lety

      Maybe I should just make mockery story time i do good

    • @magjh2662
      @magjh2662 Před 3 lety

      I will never listen to Daddy and Abandon that moon anmie where the music, tension, mood, story, animals, and parents are high (good)

  • @SONICR2K
    @SONICR2K Před 7 lety +806

    I drew that Sonic CD picture in the Sonic Live issue. I was like 16 at the time. They also messed up and put & Kitty beside my name, probably cuz I had my middle name spelt in Japanese.

    • @Cybershell13
      @Cybershell13  Před 7 lety +305

      Whoa that's pretty cool.

    • @SONICR2K
      @SONICR2K Před 7 lety +176

      Cybershell thanx for the video, I been collecting since issue 0 and the past 2yrs I've barely read them even tho I always bought them. I had wondered why I hadn't noticed any new issues in my subscriptions from my comic store.

    • @Brainulator9
      @Brainulator9 Před 7 lety +21

      SONICR2K, you are cool. ゆーあーくーる

    • @SONICR2K
      @SONICR2K Před 7 lety +15

      Brainulator9 body temperature 98.8, still not cool enough. Maybe if I was a Mecha...

    • @Brainulator9
      @Brainulator9 Před 7 lety +9

      Fahrenheit or Celsius?

  • @keiyakins
    @keiyakins Před 6 lety +989

    You missed the 'best' detail in Sonic Live!: They were too cheap to buy and too lazy to borrow a Genesis, so there's no console in any of the photos and indeed the 'controller' the boy is using is obviously a TV remote turned sideways.

    • @legorobot2369
      @legorobot2369 Před 4 lety +98

      Wait, so his kids never even had a Genesis? Why did they want to star in a Sonic comic about the games then?

    • @edwardgaines6561
      @edwardgaines6561 Před 4 lety +137

      @@legorobot2369 Nepotism. Plus Ken Penders has the social awareness of a neckbeard.

    • @phiphisaysunsubscribe
      @phiphisaysunsubscribe Před 3 lety +54

      Taken from a tweet he wrote around a year ago as of now, "The photos used to create that cover were the result of last minute improvisation when the original was rejected as the original TV used was deemed too “dated” by the suits. I had just moved and didn’t have access to the gaming console & controllers. You work with what you have." idk i thought it was kind of interesting though it's really funny that he's still bitching about these types of things on social media

    • @alfalldoot6715
      @alfalldoot6715 Před 2 lety +3

      @@legorobot2369 Maybe they watched the shows?

  • @AlaskaRS
    @AlaskaRS Před rokem +121

    "Pay attention to Ian Flynn" and "pay attention to Tyson Hesse" one's written the story for Sonic Frontiers and the other's been hired as character design lead for the Sonic movies. We're lucky to have them.

    • @elibonham4388
      @elibonham4388 Před 5 měsíci +1

      He literally saved the sonic movies and possibky even thr franchise tyson hesse is a legend

  • @MicahBuzanANIMATION
    @MicahBuzanANIMATION Před 5 lety +223

    I remember going to an antique shop with my grandparents and mom when I was 14. I was a huge Sonic fan, but never knew about the comics. Then I discovered a stack of about 50 of these for 10 bucks. My mom got them and I read and reread them religiously that year - it helped me get through the awkward age of 14 and I'll love these comics forever for that.

  • @DesignDoc
    @DesignDoc Před 7 lety +1882

    Ken Penders, congratulations you are one of the only artists who's work actually makes me wanna throw up.

    • @epicwolfchillli
      @epicwolfchillli Před 3 lety +86

      ahaa there are so many artists you have not seen yet

    • @polkadi
      @polkadi Před 3 lety +96

      Wait until you get to his writing. Both Knuckles and Sally have horrible dads, and that's just one sin out of god knows how many.

    • @Soulraven2735
      @Soulraven2735 Před 3 lety +49

      @The Last Thing You See Before You Die The personification of weakness made this comment

    • @KiraSlith
      @KiraSlith Před 3 lety +14

      Well, there's a few other "professional artists/writers" that might give you a similar feeling of disgust but you really have to trawl the internet's favorite dumping grounds to find their works these days. Turns out it's hard to keep a job you suck at.

    • @vanderkarl3927
      @vanderkarl3927 Před 3 lety +35

      ​@The Last Thing You See Before You Die Man, you're not gonna like this but... I think you should know.
      If you take a look down past your ankles, you'll find something that may disturb you.
      I don't know how you're going to live with yourself knowing this, but surely it's better than not knowing.

  • @talion4033
    @talion4033 Před 6 lety +1331

    Are you kidding? Sonic did the Council of Ricks before Rick and Morty

    • @MostlyPonies1
      @MostlyPonies1 Před 6 lety +242

      That's because it's based on Fantastic Four's Council of Reeds.

    • @positivemental9347
      @positivemental9347 Před 5 lety +54

      Rick and Morty bit off of Sonic a few times

    • @elfascisto6549
      @elfascisto6549 Před 4 lety +55

      Wow you just realized that rick and morty is a big parody of the si fi genre

    • @gspotcyplick
      @gspotcyplick Před 4 lety +41

      Rick and Morty borrows, steals, rips off, pays tribute and references everything and anything.

    • @redjirachi1
      @redjirachi1 Před 4 lety +29

      Hey Morty, I turned myself into a hedgehog. I'M SONIC RICK!

  • @iambubba34234
    @iambubba34234 Před 4 lety +204

    1:44 so Tails received a gun before Shadow? Wow

  • @nuketastical524
    @nuketastical524 Před 5 lety +166

    you know, ken penders kind of looks like eggman.

    • @goldprime118
      @goldprime118 Před 4 lety +89

      Stop. Thats an insult to eggman

    • @nuketastical524
      @nuketastical524 Před 3 lety +1

      @STK Sonic oh please, ken penders can be sexy too

    • @nuketastical524
      @nuketastical524 Před 3 lety +11

      Egg penders

    • @nuketastical524
      @nuketastical524 Před 3 lety +1

      @STK Sonic soccer dad version of eggman, yes

    • @Gary-Eng
      @Gary-Eng Před 3 lety +25

      dont you dare compare such a beautiful and stylish man to fucking ken penders

  • @BoltingAsp
    @BoltingAsp Před 6 lety +419

    Playing overwatch while listening to the audio of this
    I heard IT'S HIGH NOON and I actually get scared

    • @DragonGirl2000
      @DragonGirl2000 Před 5 lety +3

      I think i would too! Lol

    • @joechristo2
      @joechristo2 Před 3 lety +2

      Oshabot 16 this person is orange juice gang go play tf2

    • @DeletedTroll
      @DeletedTroll Před 3 lety +6

      @Oshabot 16 Please shut the fuck up and let people enjoy their games. This old TF2 and Overwatch war is already over. And I'm sorry if you were joking I can't really tell.

    • @fishingrod2253
      @fishingrod2253 Před 3 lety +3

      @@DeletedTroll i salute you for not caring about if this person plays OW or TF2. And having a TF2 pfp.

  • @DarkElfDiva
    @DarkElfDiva Před 7 lety +278

    Fun fact: Dawn Best, one of the artists who drew for this comic, is also the creator of Rouge the Bat. True story.

    • @ivanmegafanboy1981
      @ivanmegafanboy1981 Před 5 lety +35

      I salute him. Beautiful bastard.

    • @notlessorequal3777
      @notlessorequal3777 Před 5 lety +67

      Actually, it's a "her"

    • @anonimata760
      @anonimata760 Před 5 lety +20

      She also made her own comic called Ghosts of the Future iirc

    • @greenD7244
      @greenD7244 Před 4 lety +13

      AnonimATA no, Evan Stanley created ghosts of the future. The only connection to the games Evan has is that she appeared in one of the Sonic and the Black Knight fan gallery.

    • @heavymetalfan1167
      @heavymetalfan1167 Před 2 lety +3

      What's the source for this

  • @YaroKasear
    @YaroKasear Před 2 lety +295

    The Ian Flynn run was probably the best the Archie comic got. Ken Penders had his moments when he wasn't being creepy, weird, or egotistical, but it was usually either him or Karl Bollers responsible for some of the worst story stuff to happen in the comic.
    The first year or two solid of Flynn's run on the comic was basically cleaning up the Penders/Bollers mess. And actually managing not to let Sega's increased meddling and increasingly oppressive mandate from ruining the comic.
    Ultimately it was Penders' lawsuit that killed the comic, since it was basically that and Archie's own financial woes that got the comic ended. I haven't ready much of the IDW comic yet, but I hear Flynn did a phenomenal job getting its lore up and going before he departed *that* comic.
    I'm always delighted when I hear how pissed off Ken Penders is that he's pretty much blacklisted from the industry and very few people give a crap about his attempt to continue his awful Lara-Su comic since he doesn't even have the Sonic license to base his work on anymore.

    • @MDLuffy1234YT
      @MDLuffy1234YT Před rokem +16

      31:30 Even with Ken's career completely dead, there will always be such emblematic and genre defining characters such as Dominatrix Knuckles, Gay Knuckles, Douchebag Knuckles, Iron Plate Knuckles, Super Knuckle Bros 1 and 2, Girl Knuckles, College Professor Knuckles, Monocle Knuckles and _the_ most iconic, nay, humanity defining of all, Red Sonic.

    • @Antigen__
      @Antigen__ Před rokem +20

      And now that Frontiers is out, Ian Flynn's first game endeavor is basically cleaning up the entire mess that the post-Colors writing team had made. Oh, fate.

    • @Rgoid
      @Rgoid Před rokem +1

      Are you saying Ian Flynn isn’t being creepy, weird or egotistical?

  • @shadowtheherohedgeroblox8050

    0:01 "The Sonic Comic is finally dead." 1 year later: *Making the IDW comics*

  • @DiddlyDiPotatoes
    @DiddlyDiPotatoes Před 7 lety +409

    The main thing I hate about the comic getting cancelled is that the spinoff comic Sonic Mega Drive with art by Tyson Hesse will never be finished. It was great, best thing out of the Sonic Archie comics in ages.

    • @cryotheotter4411
      @cryotheotter4411 Před 7 lety +6

      DiddlyDiPotatoes I KNOW, right?

    • @saturnstellar
      @saturnstellar Před 7 lety +17

      Yeah I know! That was the only comic I liked from Archie! For me the others are trash though

    • @InazumaDash
      @InazumaDash Před 7 lety +17

      I almost wanted to cry over that last issue we'll never get. Or at least not very likely. Fuck.

    • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
      @user-vi4xy1jw7e Před 7 lety +7

      NαrαnjitαSαbrositα They weren't trash

    • @Infected-Candies
      @Infected-Candies Před 7 lety +5

      DiddlyDiPotatoes honestly I only disliked a few things of the series, one being Archie's inserted characters and probably off personality of the actual characters from sega, fleetway was more of the disturbed and cruel version of sonic.
      I especially hated the future comics as in making sonic have kids, having him marry the comic series Mary Sue.
      It just seemed off, however the team tango comics were my favorite.

  • @hrsmwithoutspook
    @hrsmwithoutspook Před 7 lety +738

    I think something bad is happening to Archie, first Mega Man and now Sonic.

    • @CometX-ing
      @CometX-ing Před 7 lety +160

      It's name is Penders.

    • @thetreyceratops2242
      @thetreyceratops2242 Před 7 lety +79

      Then Archie itself

    • @ViddyOJames
      @ViddyOJames Před 7 lety +33

      penders didn't have anything to do with megaman and he was taken completely out of the picture around the same time. geez.

    • @wmvnotmp4
      @wmvnotmp4 Před 7 lety +41

      Mine Who they said that they wanted to distance themselves from series' that "weren't Archie"

    • @CarbyGuuGuu
      @CarbyGuuGuu Před 7 lety +49

      Their priorities are now on Archie, himself.

  • @Iazibones
    @Iazibones Před 5 lety +248

    2:26
    Tails: “Sonic I don’t like that look of that face”
    Sonic: “I don’t much like the look of your face, am I complaining?”
    TAILS GOT ROASTED

  • @Nickmav1337
    @Nickmav1337 Před 2 lety +31

    "'A dragon's spoken word is fact', confirms Knuckles" kills me every fucking time lol

  • @emred4653
    @emred4653 Před 7 lety +109

    I still love archie silvers story; he searches traitor who destroyed freedom fighters for his whole life.he finally finds it and goes back in time to tell sonic,sonic beats him up and tells "traitor"(antonie) sacrificed his life to save king and quenn from eggmans lazer.thus disambbling freedom fighters

    • @RaggedViking
      @RaggedViking Před 7 lety +47

      That storyline was really cool and it led into Silver joining the secret freedom fighters and Rotor and Sonic form their own new teams.

  • @nokiasnakes
    @nokiasnakes Před 7 lety +201

    is that tails WITH A FUCKING GUN
    trying to kill robotnik AND A FUCKING UNICORN HUMAN BEING TELLS TAILS TO PULL THE TRIGGER?
    w h a t

    • @pieman19
      @pieman19 Před 7 lety +60

      The Fleetway Sonic comic is a fucking acid trip

    • @AshuroS
      @AshuroS Před 7 lety +7

      its a me nikitosnekit yeah its a illusion by the unicorn to test tails' character

    • @TVm0nk
      @TVm0nk Před 7 lety +17

      *DO IT*

    • @altaparks3627
      @altaparks3627 Před 7 lety +10

      JUST DO IT

    • @blackg450
      @blackg450 Před 6 lety +2

      its a me nikitosnekit Miles Tails Prower, attempted to assassinate Robotnik JFK style...but it was just an illusion by some Unicorn.

  • @TimeturnerJ
    @TimeturnerJ Před 3 lety +48

    I will always grieve the loss of the fantastic backgrounds the comics gave to Espio and Silver. 😢
    Silver's story didn't even get resolved in the end. It's just tragic.

  • @FeddytheReal
    @FeddytheReal Před 3 lety +19

    I love that in the background with all the comics, at 12:20 one of them is literally just Sonic and the Secret Rings

  • @sonicsaiyan07
    @sonicsaiyan07 Před 7 lety +287

    Two issues I'LL never forget are Issues 175 and 200. The former in a nutshell, Dr. Eggman wins. He just straight up wins. He ambushed Knothole, destroys EVERYTHING and Snively captures everyone but Sonic(and Tails, Knuckles, and Amy) so that Eggman can defeat him personally, and he does. Sonic gets straight up thrashed, and even pulling off one of his most impressive speed feats ever, complete with a badass line(Limit!? I'VE GOT YOUR LIMIT RIGHT HERE!) he still gets knocked into the dirt. The latter is actually the first Sonic Comic I ever read(not counting the one in Mega Collection plus), and it's glorious. In the aftermath of 175, the following issues had sonic and company make the biggest comeback yet, and when Eggman was defeated after Sonic recovered from his brutal ass-kicking, he slowly started descending into madness, and his constant strings of defeat weren't helping. When Sonic beat him in THIS issue, bringing their war to an end, the Eggman cracks and he has a mental breakdown and the issue ends with Eggman in a straightjacket.

    • @xshobux
      @xshobux Před 7 lety +6

      sonicsaiyan07 love those issues!

    • @callumsparrow4379
      @callumsparrow4379 Před 7 lety +8

      sonicsaiyan07 In my honest opinion, the 175-177 Arc is the best Storyline in Archie Sonic History, with Issue 200 coming a close 2nd place!

    • @michaelpatton3477
      @michaelpatton3477 Před 7 lety +18

      sonicsaiyan07 I love those so much, they're so well done. 200 is brilliant because that is the logical "end" for Robotnik: after giving his all in the fight against Sonic and losing every time, he's just gone.

    • @Ultralocothedragon
      @Ultralocothedragon Před 7 lety +3

      Not to mention the Snoo-Pingas usual joke the next issue after that, perfect meme call-out.

    • @KDaddy463
      @KDaddy463 Před 7 lety +8

      I remember that one. And then Sonic feels guilty for pushing him over the edge

  • @gwyn5828
    @gwyn5828 Před 7 lety +442

    fleetway Sonic is so weird

    • @BlueMageDaisen
      @BlueMageDaisen Před 7 lety +23

      Gwyn but awesome

    • @jeremyknight9980
      @jeremyknight9980 Před 7 lety +35

      I like that the Fleetway version has a evil Super Sonic.

    • @spiringvt
      @spiringvt Před 7 lety +1

      i personally dont Jeremy Knight, i think that having an evil Super Sonic can scar children and thats where the Fleetway Sonic comics went wrong

    • @BlueMageDaisen
      @BlueMageDaisen Před 7 lety +17

      Scar kids? Seriously?

    • @TurboJUK
      @TurboJUK Před 7 lety +48

      Super Sonic wasn't technically evil, just completely out of control and thus incredibly dangerous. When playing Sonic 2 to get ideas, the writers were surprised by just how out of control he felt compared to normal Sonic (which is kinda true, his increased speed and jump means Super Sonic can be pretty wild at times) so they incorporated that into the character. Fleetway Super Sonic is quite literally a demon of chaos, so it's quite fitting.
      It's also considerably more interesting than just a regular powered-up Sonic.

  • @alexissandoval4394
    @alexissandoval4394 Před 4 lety +143

    Me: *Please don´t talk about Ken Penders, please ignore that please please please*
    -Ken Penders and the Lara Su Chronicles
    *Oh boy... at least he might not know that Ken did the sonic live-*
    -Sonic Live is...
    *Crap...*

    • @redlol123
      @redlol123 Před 4 lety +27

      Hiding from the truth won't take away from the fact that it happened.

    • @alexissandoval4394
      @alexissandoval4394 Před 4 lety +15

      @@redlol123 Tell that to the *TWO* Genesis Waves, never forget all knuckles tribe and the best character of all... NATE MORGAN!... Maybe not lol

  • @fungaro2205
    @fungaro2205 Před 3 lety +30

    13:08 yo definitely my favorite comic was "Sonic and the secret rings" for the wii

  • @mrtannzr
    @mrtannzr Před 6 lety +435

    Sonic Comic in a nutshell: but then it got weirder.

    • @l.0blu
      @l.0blu Před 3 lety +1

      Why hello there

    • @johnnygyro2295
      @johnnygyro2295 Před 3 lety +12

      Hell yeah it did. While some of it was interesting, like Mobius being a post apocalyptic Earth, other parts got me scratching my head. For example, the plot to frame Sonic in Endgame had to be one of the most convoluted plots I've ever seen done by Robotnik/Eggman. I'm aware Sonic Heroes hadn't been made yet, but it would've been much simpler if Metal Sonic had been brought back as the one framing Sonic.

    • @Breakaway-ic5gj
      @Breakaway-ic5gj Před 2 lety

      Can someone explain why Tails JFK'ed Robotnik

  • @ThiccSumoWarDog
    @ThiccSumoWarDog Před 7 lety +406

    The irony here is that, if you take copyright and fair use laws into account, things would have worked out much better for both Archie AND Penders if he'd never gotten the job there to begin with. He could have made his crappy Lara-Su stuff unimpeded (and much sooner) since original characters can't be claimed by Sega or Archie's copyright, and Archie wouldn't have been forced to reboot the whole mythos in his absence.
    So in retrospect, one SINGLE act of nepotism screwed this whole comic over.

    • @rappingbeaniedog347
      @rappingbeaniedog347 Před 5 lety +42

      fuck Penders

    • @carlbloke8797
      @carlbloke8797 Před 5 lety +19

      Tristan Wilson fuck Ken Penders. But at least IDW comics reboot is good. And best of all no Ken.

  • @justinstephens8432
    @justinstephens8432 Před 4 lety +58

    Can we talk about how weird this comic was? Like I love it, I own quite a bit, but it got so... off. I remember when Tails fought Sonic because sonic dated his ex or something, and like... what?

    • @Nzosaba_Matenge
      @Nzosaba_Matenge Před 3 lety +22

      Only for it to be revealed that Tails' ex was cheating on Sonic, with himself

    • @DipperPines1986
      @DipperPines1986 Před 2 lety +3

      Well, not only because of the ex-girlfriend, Tails' parents also served as a reason for the fight.

    • @radiantblack1360
      @radiantblack1360 Před rokem

      The thing was Tails was in love with the Fiona that was a robot, and that he thought that the real Fiona would have those same feelings for him, but she had no interest in being his girlfriend. Tails still was in love with Fiona though, and got very angry and upset with Sonic when he went with her. Even when Fiona dumped Sonic for his evil counterpart Scourge, Tails was still furious with Sonic, and it shown when Sonic almost went alone again to fight Eggman when he trapped everyone in his Egg Grapes. The thing with Tails' parents got him completely fed up with Sonic and made the fight happen, but the main cause of the fight was because Sonic went with Fiona.

  • @TheMadMadman
    @TheMadMadman Před 4 lety +229

    Honestly, I really loved the fact that the Archie series had its own canon and world separate from the games. I mean why would I want to read a comic version of a game's story when I could just play it? I liked that the series had its own unique flavor of storytelling that you just couldn't get in your average Sonic game.
    I get that seeing lots of comic-exclusive characters would probably be a turn-off to a lot of game fans. I really get it. But to me, having those characters didn't turn me off of it- it actually did the opposite! It intrigued me even more as I wanted to find out just who they were and how they fit in with the game characters.
    I'll explain. My first issue was #140, Return to Angel Island Part 3. As you can probably imagine, I opened it up and saw like 20 characters I had never seen before and knew nothing about. Knuckles had a family?! What was going on here?! What's the Dark Legion?! Who's General Kage?! I see Eggman, but who's that weird lady right next to him?! And who's this "Hunter" guy at the end!? However, instead of being turned-off by all the unfamiliarity... I was actually quite intrigued by it! I wanted to know what was going on and who those unfamiliar characters were. I can see how it would be a turn-off to many people, but I really was on board with it. I felt like this new and unexplored universe was like a birthday present that I could slowly unwrap as the issues went on, deciphering the chronology of events and figuring out just who all of these unfamiliar characters were and how they related to each other.
    So yeah, I guess I had a pretty different reaction to reading the comic as a lot of other Sonic fans did.

    • @Harrinsain
      @Harrinsain Před 4 lety +30

      I mean, when you're making an adaptation of something, I think it's best to take ideas from that thing and make something new out of it rather than just copying what already exists

    • @lukew.2016
      @lukew.2016 Před 2 lety +6

      When I first read the comics, I had only ever played sonic colors which only has sonic and tails, so I didn't even know that all those people weren't in the games and I was slightly disappointed when I found out that they weren't.

    • @dankwaifu2093
      @dankwaifu2093 Před 2 lety +8

      When I first discovered Archie, I had already watched all the Sonic cartoons through DVDs. At the time, I didn't know there was a comic, so imagine my surprise when I saw an issue in stores with Amy and Sally on the cover. I had always wished all the Sonic continuities were just smooshed into one, big series, so Archie was near-perfect for me.

  • @JediKammy
    @JediKammy Před 7 lety +127

    Do you ever think Sonic just ever thinks "Man, I miss old Robotnik?". I think that should've been touched up on in the comics. A reflection on the different relationships between Robotniks and Sonic. It just feels so weird that Robo Robotnik integrated himself so well into continuity and he's just sort of a carbon copy of Robotnik.

    • @RaggedViking
      @RaggedViking Před 7 lety +26

      They bring that up a little bit after the whole Scourge thing gets resolved and there was a issue at one point when the old robotnick came back and was a good guy for a little bit.

    • @Brainulator9
      @Brainulator9 Před 7 lety +7

      RaggedViking, when was this?
      In the new continuity, this doesn't seem to matter because only one Eggman has existed (ignoring Nega and family members) and only Nicole can remember pre-Super Genesis Wave events.

  • @JamesTheTurnbull
    @JamesTheTurnbull Před 7 lety +451

    also Ken Panders is the devil. he sounds like a devianart artist that got way too much power.

    • @TakeshiInazuma
      @TakeshiInazuma Před 7 lety +8

      Malcolm Fitzpatrick The devil? lol

    • @Soufriere84
      @Soufriere84 Před 7 lety +36

      This is an accurate description… except he was around long before DeviantArt existed, and had actual clout with Sega for reasons unknown.

    • @TakeshiInazuma
      @TakeshiInazuma Před 7 lety +3

      Soufriere That's an exaggeration...

    • @HeilRay
      @HeilRay Před 7 lety +18

      Malcolm Fitzpatrick
      Surprised he didn't mention how Penders screwed the Sonic movie deal.

    • @mitchellalexander9162
      @mitchellalexander9162 Před 7 lety +1

      Why do you think Panders is in his name idiot.

  • @NomzNoodle
    @NomzNoodle Před 3 lety +15

    Idk how I feel about a kingdom of fursonas being called knothole

  • @Brucifer2
    @Brucifer2 Před rokem +15

    Anyone else here from Oneyplays today?

  • @callumsparrow4379
    @callumsparrow4379 Před 7 lety +159

    Fun Fact: The Endgame Saga was originally going to be the End of the Comics, and according to Ian Flynn Part 4 of Endgame was going to be twice as big.

    • @MrOzzification
      @MrOzzification Před 7 lety +38

      Even bigger than the Director Cut Super Special? Also more fun facts: Penders really intended for Princess Sally to legit die in issue 47. He thought that she wasn't a popular or well loved character since the Sally mini-series he wrote bombed (though this is apparently due to the fact that there was little marketing or build-up for the mini-series & the young boys of the time most likely turned their noses up at it). So he wanted to get rid of her for good but fan backlash over the next two issue pleading for her return saved the character.
      Why was Penders allowed so much creative power? Well even more fun facts: Archie needed to see some serious uptake in sales otherwise they were cancelling the comic. Most of the staff didn't even think they'd reach a 50th issue. Penders had written a few hits himself & his Knuckles series was very well received. So when he proposed he had a big idea in store to really knock one out of the park, they let him take the wheel.

    • @Turbotef
      @Turbotef Před 7 lety +6

      I dunno, I walked right to my comic book store in Flint (Amazing Book Store) when I was 15 at the time and bought the first issue of Princess Sally in front of a few other people. I never really cared what people seeing the things I buy. Unfortuinately, those comics and my 1-200 and every mini-series released up to 2004 got destroyed in a fire and I stopped reading/buying the comic. :/

    • @animestudier5356
      @animestudier5356 Před 7 lety +3

      Goat Bot He would have had to cover a ton of paperwork or have proof that that was worth money and was valuable enough to be replaced

    • @Turbotef
      @Turbotef Před 7 lety +4

      Mom's attic (all were in sleeves and in proper comic storage containers) from 2004-2014 and yes the house was but that doesn't mean you get the comics back.

  • @BradicalTS
    @BradicalTS Před 7 lety +162

    I vividly remember Reading one of the Issues where it was a filler issue.
    I remember the plot being that The freedom fighters (Except Sonic) Had some Robotniks McDonalds style fast food, then they got sick. thus sonic had to go INSIDE them to fight off the illness for them. is was fucking bizzare.

    • @Dcfan200
      @Dcfan200 Před 7 lety +52

      Bradical Issue #33. Got you covered, fam.

    • @TheMetalIsNeon
      @TheMetalIsNeon Před 6 lety +10

      An accurate description of how I feel every time I have fast food lol

    • @Verfection.
      @Verfection. Před 6 lety +2

      guess they dont want kids to eat mcdonalds

    • @shikitohnoreal7199
      @shikitohnoreal7199 Před 6 lety +5

      BradicalTS Bowser's inside story?

    • @Rednax35
      @Rednax35 Před 6 lety +1

      Yes, the French Firius

  • @vhdiggsd7576
    @vhdiggsd7576 Před 5 lety +32

    11:36 *HOLD THE ONIONS*

  • @chrislarson5097
    @chrislarson5097 Před 5 lety +14

    I read from 172 to 243. So many amazing memories, these comics we're my childhood.

  • @Creative_Joke
    @Creative_Joke Před 7 lety +117

    Spaz And Tracy were probably my favorite artists

  • @rokkieteller5421
    @rokkieteller5421 Před 6 lety +653

    "Cries in tears" Archie whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
    IDW obtains the license
    "Oh ok"

  • @UnethicalVoxel
    @UnethicalVoxel Před 3 lety +35

    The Sonic Comics were absolutely batshit insane. Disappointed you never mentioned the Xorda, buff Tails, or the time they made an even edgier version of Shadow.

  • @TimesChu
    @TimesChu Před 2 lety +9

    Knuckles Mom: "Honey, don't microwave the baby."
    Knuckles Dad: "...>:)"

  • @GachirinGhost
    @GachirinGhost Před 7 lety +148

    Such a damn shame, really. The Archie Sonic Comics are what pretty much inspired me to begin drawing and creating characters, all the way back when I got my first issue - Issue #173 - from my grandmother after she saw it at a yard sale. I remember kinda drifting away from the Sonic franchise as a whole two or three years ago, but I still have all the comics I collected over the years. Seeing this news really just hurts.

    • @alize0623
      @alize0623 Před 7 lety +10

      Jordan Ulrich Same here. I had the Sonic Mega Collection and no cable growing up, and I'd play the games for a few hours since I couldn't watch TV. When games got boring, and when I ran out of DVDs, I'd open the comic menu and redraw the covers on a page and use the controls to zoom in/out for the smaller details. I didn't draw Sonic OCs or fan art or anything cringy, but it got me to learn how to draw.

    • @Dcfan200
      @Dcfan200 Před 7 lety +1

      Want to sign my petition to help try and save the comics? www.ipetitions.com/petition/project-all-freedom

  • @JoelAdair
    @JoelAdair Před 7 lety +399

    Wow! You know, I always hated the Genesis Wave. I just couldn't undrestand what the fuck Archie Comics would want to reset everything, after they when through all that work, developing the character's personalities and and relation ships... Now I know the REAL reason why!... This Ken Penders should be lynched by his BALLS!

    • @bunsmasterbunny
      @bunsmasterbunny Před 7 lety +28

      Well lucky for you the Genesis wave didn't actually happen. If the comics are cancelled anything that was the result of executive meddling and not because they wanted to didn't actually happen and the last issue that actually happened in the timeline was before the Mecha Sally ones.
      Either way Death of the Author because God would never allow that to happen so if the "reboot" happened at all it happened in an alternate universe where the characters only think it happened because of time travel shenanigans. It's bad writing anyway as they'd never accept it and would make sure to fight to reverse it if it actually did and they are wrong if they think they'd actually forget them (and messed up in the head if they think that's okay to put in there) so the main Sonic from the comics is still living in Knothole with Sally, Julie Su, Saffron, all of Knuckle's people, and all the other people living happily now that Eggman universe hopped and is fighting the new comics characters. Ian Flynn's word on the matter is irrelevant to what really happened because it's out of his hands.

    • @TakeshiInazuma
      @TakeshiInazuma Před 7 lety +4

      JoelAdair He's notthe only reason tho

    • @shadowspider9
      @shadowspider9 Před 7 lety +25

      It was a combination of Penders and Sega. In addition to having to get rid of Penders created characters Sega laid down a ton of VERY strict mandates so that a lawsuit wouldn't happen again.

    • @Sonickeyblade00
      @Sonickeyblade00 Před 7 lety +27

      It's a two piece blow. Ken Penders messed up the Archie half of the series while Sega cracked down on creativity and licensing. I feel as if the Worlds Collide mini-series drew the eye of Sega and that was the worst thing for the comic series.
      I just hope that after the comic series ended, I hope the SatAM crew still appears in some Sonic media. Just not fade away like Mighty, Ray & Nack the Weasel.

    • @shadowspider9
      @shadowspider9 Před 7 lety +42

      Indeed. I think the Penders lawsuit reminded Sega that the comic existed and once the license was up for renewal they decided it was not worth keeping because it opened them to the possibility of lawsuits for rights to characters they did not care about.

  • @airshow406
    @airshow406 Před 3 lety +72

    I always wished that there was a quality game based on the Archie Comics Sonic universe. Something kind of like Jak 2 with Sonic exploring a hub world and getting missions from freedom fighter characters to complete missions in and around Robotropolis.

    • @shatteredscry
      @shatteredscry Před 2 lety +9

      take my kickstarter money

    • @alxestis
      @alxestis Před rokem

      There was supposed to be a game based on SATAM released but Sonic Team found the game mechanics to be too slow, so they scrapped it.

  • @Antigen__
    @Antigen__ Před 3 lety +17

    I can't believe you just casually showed the "Alone on a Friday night?" panel and did nothing with it

  • @lunardances
    @lunardances Před 7 lety +19

    man. my interest in the comic started waning after #50, i'd pick up an issue sporadically and then be all confused and shit. that endgame arc fucked me up as a kid tho, like damn.
    i think i've still got all my comics laying around somewhere, actually...

  • @sawbonesquad4876
    @sawbonesquad4876 Před 7 lety +271

    it figures it would be uncerimoniously cancelled

    • @father5934
      @father5934 Před 7 lety +42

      Sawbones Quad It seems that all things good related to sonic must end abruptly.

  • @_Tzer
    @_Tzer Před 4 lety +21

    British people who havent had a sonic comic since 2000: Bah

  • @rudyleon5366
    @rudyleon5366 Před 5 lety +22

    4:42 Sonic The Hedgehog:Into The Sonic-Verse Comic

    • @johnnygyro2295
      @johnnygyro2295 Před 3 lety

      7:08
      Sonic: "Could our universe be part of one cosmic entity?"
      Me: *Remembers Eternity and Kismet from Marvel and DC* "I don't know Sonic, but it must be a popular theory..."

  • @chewyster3033
    @chewyster3033 Před 7 lety +188

    Yoshikage Kira just wants to live a quiet life

  • @ShinigamiSparda
    @ShinigamiSparda Před 7 lety +121

    *Listens to the stuff about Ken Penders*
    ... My god. This must be the most financially successful bad fanfic writer in existence.

    • @Shamrock_74
      @Shamrock_74 Před 7 lety +26

      ShinigamiSparda nope one of the writers for powderpuffgirls 2016 is.

    • @PsylomeAlpha
      @PsylomeAlpha Před 7 lety +5

      People can change depending on their environment.

    • @MrOzzification
      @MrOzzification Před 7 lety +7

      +Tornado1994 what exactly isn't true?

    • @DiscoMouse
      @DiscoMouse Před 7 lety +5

      Actually that's the author of Fifty Shades of Grey.

    • @ShinigamiSparda
      @ShinigamiSparda Před 7 lety +6

      Oh yeah. Wasn't that originally a Twilight fanfic?

  • @mino2123
    @mino2123 Před 2 lety +4

    13:35 i love how in the background to the right, there's just randomly sonic and the secret rings amongst all the actual comics

  • @minermemecoffee8256
    @minermemecoffee8256 Před 5 lety +30

    Endgame, suck it Avengers
    Sonic did it first!

  • @Al0neStillAlive
    @Al0neStillAlive Před 7 lety +34

    I want them to release all the comics in big easy to manage books. They had a few last time I looked but vast quantities were missing. I'll assume that they didn't expect me to maintain a subscription for the last 25 years to get them all.

    • @kitcatcandy4563
      @kitcatcandy4563 Před 7 lety +4

      Yotsuba
      The sonic archive comics have many of them, just collect the archives and the sonic selct

    • @hereisnickscott
      @hereisnickscott Před 7 lety

      Comixology is probably the best place to go if you want to read the whole series (legally). You can purchase all of the issues digitally there. However if you want physical books your stuck with the archives series which collected 4 issues at a time and isn't even close to being caught up, collections of stories that aren't in order, the graphic novels for universe and post universe reset sonic comics, and a scavenger hunt for back issues.

    • @felipedestickman
      @felipedestickman Před 7 lety +2

      Yotsuba You know what will be really cool? If they can't fit the Sonic Comic books in one book make a small gaint collection that sums up everything. Maybe like one of those books that if you collect them all and put them in order side by side, it will make a awesome picture of Sonic or something.

  • @espinoth9913
    @espinoth9913 Před 6 lety +78

    I personally loved all the issues that involved Nathaniel Morgan, he was a pretty solid character.
    Also #FuckKenPenders

  • @puffypuff3144
    @puffypuff3144 Před 2 lety +3

    i just realized sonic has 1 blue arm in the thumbnail. im not a blue arm obsessor but *mismatched* arms is another story

  • @The_schboinger
    @The_schboinger Před 11 měsíci +6

    Well I was very sad on the verge of crying and felt like absolute garbage when I saw the thumbnail for this video and just started laughing hysterically so thanks for that cybershell

  • @nomuru2d
    @nomuru2d Před 7 lety +23

    125 was actually the point when an evil alien race I forgot the name of was trying to wipe the world off the face of the galaxy, and Sonic wound up powering a warp-weapon to use against them by running really fast. The story ended with Sonic being warped to the galaxy that the alien race came from after the weapon successfully worked, and the next bunch of issues revolved around him finding a way back home.

    • @RaggedViking
      @RaggedViking Před 7 lety

      Didn't that lead to the whole A.D.A.M Saga where Eggman had a super Ai Son.

    • @nomuru2d
      @nomuru2d Před 7 lety

      The nanobots, yes. It also led to Sonic and Sally breaking up because Sally was being written as a selfish bitch.

    • @RaggedViking
      @RaggedViking Před 7 lety

      I remember that now they ended up trying to marrying her to antoine who ended up being anti antoine. Its been a while but at one point in my life I read every issue of sonic I stopped after the mega man crossover and they rebooted everything because of penders lawsuit. I hated it because all those storylines, characters, and character development got thrown out the window to never be seen again.

    • @Dcfan200
      @Dcfan200 Před 7 lety

      Selfish is a relative word compared to a kid who spends his days focusing on bashing in an already broken doctor's head, and ran around Mobius for a living.

  • @simtek3475
    @simtek3475 Před 6 lety +68

    So Kids, if you get sucked into the TV, don't forget Up, Down, Left, Right, A+Start!

    • @aerth6946
      @aerth6946 Před 3 lety +2

      If you get sucked into the TV, don't disagree with your evil self

  • @roxasdeviluke317
    @roxasdeviluke317 Před 5 lety +14

    I remember reading the whole ixis naugus arc and the time when they actually killed eggman

  • @Izzyisneon
    @Izzyisneon Před 5 lety +39

    "Aw man, now everything we love that left a legacy is ending.."
    IDW: "Sup B"
    "I will now put my faith in you"

  • @cleothebirb7973
    @cleothebirb7973 Před 6 lety +159

    35:19. Hey look! Sanic and Solly!

  • @thetman0068
    @thetman0068 Před 7 lety +423

    Wow. Never have I seen a creepier person, in both form and personality, than Ken Penders.

    • @stormbringer2189
      @stormbringer2189 Před 7 lety +43

      we have seen creeper

    • @finnsky3429
      @finnsky3429 Před 7 lety +12

      demetric taylor when you talk about yourself in a plural sense, you're not wrong

    • @SammEater
      @SammEater Před 6 lety +9

      Hahaha, look at the pitch he did for a Sonic movie, look at how creepy that shot with the kids on the tv is: czcams.com/video/qhsOiyvfIWs/video.html

    • @Alan_One1
      @Alan_One1 Před 5 lety +21

      #FuckKenPenders

    • @ButtonMasherReal
      @ButtonMasherReal Před 2 lety

      Ken Penders is a piece of shit, but he's not even the creepiest person related to Sonic, let alone the whole world.

  • @Kiwi_stupid
    @Kiwi_stupid Před 3 lety +10

    Ok this is unrelated with this video but, the sonic comics started a day after Sonic 2 released because Sonic 2 was released on 11/21/92 literally search it up

  • @Robin_Pancakes
    @Robin_Pancakes Před 11 měsíci +5

    Even tho I have never read the comic (and I probably never will), I somehow really enjoy this video and the way you present it, not as a critic but just as a sonic fan. It feels really refreshing to see someone on youtube not criticize the stuff they're talking about and just like the stuff and wants to talk about it, this applies to most of your videos but I wanted to comment on this one because I keep rewatching it a couple of times a year.

  • @Masterge77
    @Masterge77 Před 6 lety +394

    With it's high and low points, the Sonic Archie comic was great while it lasted, and it's a real shame to see it go. To be fair though, it wasn't just Ken Penders alone that killed the comic (as most have been led to believe), because Sega themselves had an hand in it's slow demise as well.
    You see, over time, Sega continuously passed notes down as to what could and couldn't be done. They were very restrictive as to how the official characters were depicted, and tried as hard to make the comics more and more like the games in tone and style while removing creative control from the writers. Not to mention Sega slowly destroyed the comic's roots and intended on erasing any connection to the SatAM cartoon completely because it didn't fit their vision of the franchise, a trend which was amplified tenfold after the Super Genesis Wave event.
    This was combined with a massive decline in sales after the reboot, as well as internal politics on Archie's side of things in the fact that they too wanted to get rid of the comic along with Sega, especially since Archie wanted to focus more on their homegrown titles, much like Marvel did in the 90's when they sold off their comic licenses to other companies.
    So when you really narrow things down, the Archie comic had everything going against it, so there's not simply one source for the cause of the comic's demise, but several different factors that contributed to it.

    • @itheckinwindy
      @itheckinwindy Před 6 lety +88

      Archie isn't a victim here. They lost the license because years of corporate shenanigans and mishandling of assets has left them nearly bankrupt, so they can't afford it. SEGA tightening the leash on Sonic is them finally pulling up their pants and taking back control of their legal property after years of letting it grow like a garden weed.

  • @djayramos2331
    @djayramos2331 Před 7 lety +79

    i should be sleeping but fuck it i'll watchthis video instead.

  • @xxxtefennixxx
    @xxxtefennixxx Před 3 lety +12

    Therapist: "Jacked Sonic isn't real it can't hurt you"
    Jacked Sonic: 5:28

  • @daytonglitch
    @daytonglitch Před 3 lety +8

    The one story you couldn’t tell was Penders's infamous tweet. The tweet is getting old, but this video was faster on the draw in that department.

    • @Outta-hz1ej
      @Outta-hz1ej Před 3 lety +2

      kek

    • @graysongdl
      @graysongdl Před 3 lety +3

      I felt seething anger towards this comment once I finally realized what you were on about.

    • @Outta-hz1ej
      @Outta-hz1ej Před 3 lety

      @Johnny Money the joke is that Chuck sells fuck and suck based on the rhyming scheme of Sneed's Feed and Seed in which is odd because the current store sells feed and seed which is normal but chuck selling fuck and suck is odd

  • @maximillianlylat1589
    @maximillianlylat1589 Před 7 lety +109

    after hearing about all this stuff about ken panders.....i wonder if chris-chan worships him since he aint to far off from ken panders

    • @molemanninethousand
      @molemanninethousand Před 7 lety +40

      Ken Penders makes Chris-Chan look like a cool guy.

    • @stoffhimel
      @stoffhimel Před 7 lety +10

      actually, he might. this is sorta hard to explain, but there was an issue where sonic encountered his own fan club. they were sonic look alikes, and most prominently, they wore a medallion of sonic's head. sound familiar? so did chris chan, but his was of sonichu. oddly, these are the kinds of epiphanies that can occur with reading the sonic comic while drinking.

    • @lukevankleef4245
      @lukevankleef4245 Před 7 lety

      Isn't Chris Chan a persona?

    • @Sebastian-tm6hk
      @Sebastian-tm6hk Před 7 lety

      Yazanico Speaking of Chris, is he still kicking ? Last I heard of him, he "grew a vagina".

    • @OhHiiMarc
      @OhHiiMarc Před 7 lety +3

      Luke van Kleef This is just one big Jojo Episode and Ken Pender actually has Chris-Chan as his persona, fighting for him.

  • @sUpC12
    @sUpC12 Před 6 lety +267

    Even if IDW does pick up the comic, there's no guarantee the FF will come back, esp. considering the fact that Ian Flynn had to fight Sega to keep the Freedom Fighters in the series after the reboot
    I think our Sonic SatAM crew is officially dead..... :'/

    • @Idazmi7
      @Idazmi7 Před 6 lety +38

      The SatAM crew was always dead in the comics. I'd honestly rather just rewatch the cartoons than read that comic.

    • @munchjrgames942
      @munchjrgames942 Před 6 lety +35

      As much as i love the Freedom Fighters, the less characters, the better! The comic book was ballsy as shit when i read a random issue, like, why the flying fug is Shadow king? and more.

    • @lickidactyl6080
      @lickidactyl6080 Před 6 lety +34

      You kinda dropped into the middle of an alternate future in a side series haha

    • @SammEater
      @SammEater Před 6 lety +28

      When Ken Penders introduced so many 'and Knuckles' copies the series went to shit.

    • @emargaux
      @emargaux Před 6 lety +20

      Sadly, it's true. The SatAM crew is dead - I just read the latest IDW and no Freedom Fighters.

  • @deadturret4049
    @deadturret4049 Před 2 lety +25

    With how much of a shitshow the whole ken penders ordeal was, I wouldnt be surprised if Archie intentionally "lost" those documents to justify hitting the cosmic reset button.

    • @keiyakins
      @keiyakins Před 2 měsíci

      Given the headaches it caused everyone, I would.

  • @lazebrowneyes
    @lazebrowneyes Před 5 lety +6

    Wow, what a rabbit hole. I think I read every single one of those right up to around the same time you quit on it too.

  • @BaltaBueno
    @BaltaBueno Před 7 lety +24

    Wow, never knew the Sonic comics had the same continuity for so long. I always read random issues but now I'll start from the beginning because it looks freaking awesome lol

    • @Dcfan200
      @Dcfan200 Před 7 lety +3

      Want to help sign my petition and try to save the Sonic Archie comics? www.ipetitions.com/petition/project-all-freedom

    • @lordraiden7397
      @lordraiden7397 Před 6 lety

      Dcfan200 i see you :)

  • @weneedmorefacemapsasprofil1593

    Hopefully Sega snatches the SatAM cast and all the Mobius stuff for themselves so that there's at least hope the comic
    sorta continues under different people.

    • @Zunile03scape
      @Zunile03scape Před 7 lety +2

      Sega is one of the reasons the SatAM cast doesn't get any love. If they wanted them we would have a game that isn't just a spinball easter egg.

    • @BreezyKun
      @BreezyKun Před 7 lety

      Brian Williamson Can you explain the connection between sonic SatAM and spinball? I don't quite get what you mean.

    • @weneedmorefacemapsasprofil1593
      @weneedmorefacemapsasprofil1593 Před 7 lety +3

      SatAM cast popped up in a minigame as cameos.

    • @Zunile03scape
      @Zunile03scape Před 7 lety +3

      their pixel art would appear when you would break the containers in the mini game pinball. it was such a small reference that few care about it.

  • @Migbuild_1911
    @Migbuild_1911 Před 3 lety +3

    love how in 12:25 at the bottom right there´s sonic and the secret rings

  • @johnburke5248
    @johnburke5248 Před 5 lety +10

    I remember my dad buying me one of the earliest sonic comics when I was a kid and then buying them monthly at my local party store good memories.

  • @timlamb6073
    @timlamb6073 Před 6 lety +60

    5:27
    There’s a dimension where Sonic accepted Knuckles’ steroids

  • @amirgarcia547
    @amirgarcia547 Před 7 lety +63

    Not only one the longest-running comic series based on a videogame character, but also one of the best in general.
    Even if I didn't read much of it, I'm entirely sad to see it go. R.I.P. Comic Sonic.
    Also, screw Ken Penders, that slimy, talentless hack.

  • @bhgameman
    @bhgameman Před 5 lety +9

    And farewell to you, Cybershell.

    • @bhgameman
      @bhgameman Před rokem

      I'm so glad you came back you son of a bitch, the world wasn't right without you.

  • @AshyMuted
    @AshyMuted Před 6 lety +18

    Sonic in the thumbnail can easily be replaced by Cybershell

  • @Larry
    @Larry Před 7 lety +1728

    Most excellent retrospective Sir, Living in the UK I never read any of the Archie comics, so this was a great piece for me :)
    Oh, if you want to know how messed up the Fleetway Sonic gets, may I recommend a CZcams channel by the name of "SJ Webster" He's covered them really well.

    • @thurgoodtole7840
      @thurgoodtole7840 Před 7 lety +27

      Larry Bundy Jr Holy moly, I'm a big fan of your videos! I was not expecting you to be in the comment section of this video.

    • @Dr0dd
      @Dr0dd Před 7 lety +44

      He tends to show up where you least expect him

    • @Larry
      @Larry Před 7 lety +55

      Thanks bud, I really appreciate it! :) Yeah I enjoy watching other people's videos!

    • @thurgoodtole7840
      @thurgoodtole7840 Před 7 lety +8

      No prob!

    • @Nel_Annette
      @Nel_Annette Před 7 lety +4

      Didn't expect to find you here. XD I just saw a video about a comic I haven't read in years by a username I recognized from nearly a decade back and clicked on it.

  • @voidmaster45
    @voidmaster45 Před 7 lety +83

    Unlike Mega Man, Sonic is an active properly, and Sega seems to be doing right by Sonic lately. Someone will pick up the license eventually. As much as it saddens me to see this go, and that it didn't get a proper ending, I am excited to see a potential fresh start for this series.

    • @CW0LK
      @CW0LK Před 7 lety +2

      voidmaster45 me to

    • @LadyLuckyLu
      @LadyLuckyLu Před 7 lety

      voidmaster45 Same

    • @turmify
      @turmify Před 7 lety +1

      Hopefully with some of the great artists, and less of the subpar writers.

    • @XenoJehuty84
      @XenoJehuty84 Před 7 lety +4

      @voidmaster45 Fingers crossed they give it to IDW and let them either continue on or hopefully another soft reboot with the characters intact (and less stupid mandates from Sega) and given to a team who'll treat the property like gold.

    • @scifiguy9000
      @scifiguy9000 Před 7 lety +3

      They'd most likely make another Sonic comic universe really...

  • @thedipermontshow
    @thedipermontshow Před 2 lety +6

    12:00 All of the comic covers in the background, and then fucking sonic and the secret rings from the wii appears in the right corner like bro.

  • @rockjr7629
    @rockjr7629 Před 4 lety +23

    32:56 my eyes it burns ahhhhhh

  • @the_real_Kurt_Yarish
    @the_real_Kurt_Yarish Před 7 lety +32

    Goodbye, Sonic Comics. I hardly knew ye.

  • @nerdman1324real
    @nerdman1324real Před 7 lety +146

    "Overly long rambling"?
    Nonsense, you really went in-depth about some of the issues, and you are still internet comedy gold.
    I love your content, so keep it up.

  • @astra3766
    @astra3766 Před 4 lety +13

    12:36
    I’m not seeing things right?
    That’s Sonic and the Secret Rings down near the bottom right corner right?

  • @edwardgaines6561
    @edwardgaines6561 Před 4 lety +51

    By the way, how can you not mention *DAN DRAZEN* and his monthly reviews of the comic? He was the thorn in Ken Penders side.

  • @SuperCosmicMutantSquid
    @SuperCosmicMutantSquid Před 7 lety +33

    What, seriously? They're cancelling it? Even with all the shit that's happening in the books now?
    FUCK.

    • @ChiefMedicPururu
      @ChiefMedicPururu Před 7 lety +5

      Thank Riverdale for that, that stupid Twin Peaks rip-off.

  • @GaryD122
    @GaryD122 Před 7 lety +42

    RIP Hershey the Cat

    • @Dcfan200
      @Dcfan200 Před 7 lety

      Blitzkrieg Camo pony Same.

    • @GaryD122
      @GaryD122 Před 7 lety +2

      She'll be missed

    • @Dcfan200
      @Dcfan200 Před 7 lety

      Blitzkrieg Camo pony Nobody ever explained how she died, and if she didn't die, then maybe Geoffrey wouldn't have assisted Naugus to the throne.

    • @GaryD122
      @GaryD122 Před 7 lety +6

      Yeah man, I was really hoping she would return but no, it just get worst and worst from there. She was a cute character too, it's a shame on how she was treated.

    • @Dcfan200
      @Dcfan200 Před 7 lety +1

      Blitzkrieg Camo pony Yeah, I know.

  • @NotCzech001
    @NotCzech001 Před rokem +3

    Ken Penders wasn't fired. He left because he "didn't have enough control"

  • @theawsomeboiistudios
    @theawsomeboiistudios Před 3 lety +3

    I like how the thumbnail HAS SONIC FREAKING DEAD!!