K&N HP2009 Oil Filter Cut Open vs. Purolator One PL20195 Oil Filter Cut Open

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024

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  • @garzapedroa
    @garzapedroa Před rokem +7

    I order the Purolator Boss, it arrived with the orange seal damaged, injust order the KN Gold, i hope this will have. Better QC

  • @dennywires
    @dennywires Před 2 lety +20

    2 great filters there, I wouldn’t sweat using either. You’re the man brother keep on wrenching and cutting those filters open. 👍

  • @dwendt44
    @dwendt44 Před 2 lety +22

    High performance and racing filters typically don't filter as well as the regular filters. Flow is more important under racing or other 'performance' driving.

    • @123Chevyman
      @123Chevyman Před 3 měsíci

      If it has higher flow, will it reduce oil pressure then? I wonder why my Lincoln 460 has its oil pressure light on when idling hot. I used 10W30 oil first. Then I switched to 15W40 with a new filter. Still oil pressure light when hot and idling in drive. I now think about the fact that I use K&N filters, which were not used before. No red light before the oil change.

    • @dwendt44
      @dwendt44 Před 3 měsíci

      @@123Chevyman As I understand it, The filter, as long as it's not clogged, affects oil pressure very little. Pressure switch is typically AFTER the filter.

  • @LessThanHandy
    @LessThanHandy Před 2 lety +6

    Never tried k&m but I am certainly a purolator filter guy. Been using Purolator one for years....

  • @timebandit2951
    @timebandit2951 Před 2 lety +6

    I am a K& N filter guy. I buy them at Walmart for 10 Bucks. However next oil change I will be trying the Super Tech I bought @ Walmart for 3.72 after watching the comparisonon wind city, thanks. I have used K&N for a long time flawlessly. They are also rated for 20,000 miles. Not that I use them that long. In a 98 Expedition, 4.6. Also with Castrol Edge High Mileage 5/20. Also rated for 20,000 miles. In the summer in the south west I use 5/30, because of the heat. Over 200,000 still doesn't burn oil. Thanks wind city for all of your tests. Dutch

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 2 lety

      Thanks for Sharing and Your Feedback!

    • @PapiDoesIt
      @PapiDoesIt Před 2 lety

      I too switched to the supertech after the comparison video. My son and I bought all of them at 2 different Walmart stores because each of us owns 2 Hondas and all 4 take the same filter and oil. He bought up a 2 year supply of synthetic oil too on sale.

    • @jonhawkins2374
      @jonhawkins2374 Před 3 měsíci

      K&N All the way 🎉🎉🎉

  • @phukka_feelings
    @phukka_feelings Před 2 lety +4

    Just put a K&N filter and used pennzoil platinium on my kia sportage, and I am noticing a big performance boost and overall runs so much better, than whatever the shops were using

  • @ChrisLincolnHomes
    @ChrisLincolnHomes Před 8 měsíci +2

    I used to use K&N. They worked great until one day the one I installed started to leak where the nut was welded on. Thankfully I caught it before the engine ran out of oil. After that I went to Mobil 1 filters.

  • @michaelsamson3276
    @michaelsamson3276 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I use the K & N because of the nut with the safety wire hole on my airplane. I have noticed that they moved production to MX and there are several changes. Different relief valve and a smaller filter with a glued seam instead of the metal strip. I may need to switch back to the aircraft filter at over $40 because of the quality of the K&N filter now made in MX.

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 9 měsíci

      Hi Michael,
      Could you give me the size of the K&N and an aircraft oil filter that fits your plane,(2 filters total) I think that would make for a one-time interesting oil filter comparison. Send me an email to, Poker4me007@gmail.com
      Thanks!

  • @trekzilladmc
    @trekzilladmc Před 2 lety +8

    On my previous car, I used to buy both depending on which one was cheaper at the time. Often my local farm store had sales, so whichever was less is the one I'd go with, so it wasn't uncommon I'd swap back and forth between oil changes.

  • @jonathannance5086
    @jonathannance5086 Před 2 lety +5

    Both filters are serviceable. The filter media gaps and sloppy glue on the Purolator was surprising for a higher end 15k filter. The failure to release filtration numbers by K&N is just strange. Pete, thanks for another great filter video.

  • @Cafeguitar123
    @Cafeguitar123 Před 2 lety +5

    You always welcome challenges with open arms and I think that's amazing because a lot of people just can't do that.

  • @miked90123
    @miked90123 Před rokem +3

    I'll choose the K&N any day! The oil cleanliness at the end of 5-6k is what's important to me and the K&N has never failed to have cleaner oil.

    • @USArmy91222
      @USArmy91222 Před rokem

      how do you know how clean the oil actually is without getting it analyzed 🤔

    • @miked90123
      @miked90123 Před rokem +2

      @Vince A When I cut my filters open and see for myself what is in them vs the oil 🤷‍♂️!
      I run them on my built challenger, jeeps and Cummins 5.9l. The oil is always cleaner at 4k with a k&n than most other filters. Napa gold is a close second and wix if I have to. Used to run only wix, but no more spring, stamped leaf spring so I went to k&n for the same price.
      I've also sent oil samples off to Blackstone labs, they confirmed my filter is doing a perfect job cleaning my oil.

  • @budblack3588
    @budblack3588 Před 2 lety +4

    I give this one to the Purolator because the filter media is better but their assembly quality needs to improve.

  • @save16thave
    @save16thave Před 2 lety +2

    I've been watching alot of your videos the last few days and I'm really enjoying them. The "microscope comparison" really put this one over the top!

  • @michaelherrell5381
    @michaelherrell5381 Před 2 lety +4

    As a K&N fan, the Pure one is a better deal for six bucks less. Good comparison and show.

  • @scottymoondogjakubin4766
    @scottymoondogjakubin4766 Před 2 lety +5

    To be honest i always shy'd away from K n N oil filters mostly because of price ! i was a big fan of purolator boss prob until mann / hummel took over ! very sloppy glue ! im still sold on fram ultra syn !

  • @kbeg132
    @kbeg132 Před 2 lety +4

    Nice looking filters! Would use either one without concern. Keep up the great work!

  • @jjuhring1
    @jjuhring1 Před rokem +4

    The K&N Gold is really designed for racing applications where higher oil flow rates and managing higher oil pressures are more critical than fine-particle filtration. There's really no reason to pay the price premium for the K&N on a daily driver vehicle. Purolator One or Boss will be the better value, and may even provide a slightly higher level of particle filtration.

  • @kruelzombieful
    @kruelzombieful Před 2 lety +2

    Duke it out!!! That is just a great line. Great informative video as always.

  • @jamescaron6465
    @jamescaron6465 Před rokem +1

    Purolater by a nose, but it’s nice to know that the KNN filter is well-made. I’d use that one as well if I couldn’t get a Purolator.

  • @brucerussell1355
    @brucerussell1355 Před 2 lety +1

    i use pure ones in everything. have been for years. my 95 ranger has 340,000 miles on it now and the engine is spotless inside. same with my daughter's 97 saturn sc2, 368.000 miles. we've had them both for 22 years.

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 2 lety

      Wow! That's a lot of miles. Thanks for sharing!
      All I can say is keep doing what you're doing because you're doing it right.👍

  • @jasonreid1332
    @jasonreid1332 Před 2 lety +3

    Love Filter Friday. Good choices today.
    I am not a fan of K and N. Due to the price. Got to go with purolator over the KN. However, wish the Purolator had a coil spring.
    Thanks for all that you do.

  • @patchesthejaybird8431
    @patchesthejaybird8431 Před rokem +1

    I buy purolator from Krogers/Fredmeyers, and K&N at Wal-Mart. I have both on my shelf, which will I restock? Lets see what you find! My K&N box says 99% efficiency at 30 microns multi-pass. That is for the Black can K&N. I kind of prefer the Purolator as well. I change my oil every 5000 no, or twice a year, so it likely does not matter that much.

  • @ellalamont6943
    @ellalamont6943 Před 2 lety +2

    Both have quality filter media. They seem to be pretty good filters. Just read in the comment section that they are less expensive at Walmart. Good to know! Another great video! 👍

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 2 lety +1

      Hi Ella.
      Thank You! Have a great weekend!

    • @ellalamont6943
      @ellalamont6943 Před 2 lety

      @@WhipCityWrencher, Thanks! You, too! Stay Cool, Cuz! It's mighty humid and hot out there this weekend!

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 2 lety +1

      @@ellalamont6943 👍

  • @josephhettiger2711
    @josephhettiger2711 Před 9 měsíci +1

    PB all the way. Purolator has always had good quality. I've seen K&N flip flop manufactures in the past and I don't want another rebranded filter.

  • @daves2520
    @daves2520 Před 2 lety +2

    K&N definitely has a beefier can - something to consider.

  • @chriscosby2459
    @chriscosby2459 Před 2 lety +1

    Another great review. I agree with other comments, the K&N filter is a little pricey. Wix and Supertech are more cost effective.

  • @404notfound.....
    @404notfound..... Před 2 lety +5

    Two great oil filters!! 👍🇨🇦

  • @daewooparts
    @daewooparts Před 2 lety +2

    Both are decent filters

  • @freedomliberty7611
    @freedomliberty7611 Před 2 lety +1

    Great job as usual Pete

  • @SlikLizrd
    @SlikLizrd Před 2 lety +3

    Great job, Whip City !! Nobody else has the "Microscope Matchup", and it's a really informative feature for your reviews. Rock on !!
    As for the filters:
    Purolator 1 gets best marks for: "20 Micron Rating" ; "Number/Size of Holes in Baseplate" ; "PTFE Gasket" ; "Microscope Image"; "Price" and "Filter Media Area" .
    K&N gets the nod for: "Nut for Removal" and "Cannister Thickness".
    In today's uncertain economy, a reasonable cost is a bigger factor than ever before -- K&N, Amsoil, and Royal Purple are the most expensive brand names, BUT they offer no advantages that would justify the extra money.
    I would leave BOTH of these filters on the shelf -- and stick with the tried-and-true Bosch Premium # 3410 and # 3323 and the 5,000-mile O.C.I. that have served me well for many years of spirited driving over all types of terrain.

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks Chuck!
      The Microscope pics/feature, I'm hoping will keep everyone coming back to watch more.
      As for your Bosch 3410, I have a used one that I opened up, and it will be showing soon.
      I think you'll like the video.
      Take Care!

    • @SlikLizrd
      @SlikLizrd Před 2 lety +1

      @@WhipCityWrencher That Microscope Pic feature is FIRE, man -- the smart ones will be back !!
      Thanks for the Bosch # 3410 video -- I have a Filter Cutter Tool, and I cut 'em open to see what's happening in my engines.
      The tiny-sized oil filter on our 300-hp Acura V-6 is kinda scary -- I'm using the Bosch # 3323, and it's the smallest-size oil filter that I've ever seen on a gasoline engine. It really NEEDS a FILTERMAG !!

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 2 lety +1

      @@SlikLizrd 👍👍

    • @jeffkortsch8276
      @jeffkortsch8276 Před rokem +1

      @@SlikLizrd You forgot the Fram website-approved stamped leaf retainer spring. Both have them!

  • @WaybackTECH
    @WaybackTECH Před 2 lety

    I have used this Purolator filter. For fun, I used it on 2 vehicles to get about 6K miles in it. I have yet to tear it apart so this was interesting to me to see what it looked like inside.

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 2 lety

      Hi Tech,
      You should cut open the Purolator and show it on your channel.👍

  • @SimpleTastyFood2024
    @SimpleTastyFood2024 Před 2 lety +1

    Good filters and comparison Pete! TFS Merri :)

  • @69in89
    @69in89 Před 2 lety +3

    While I think both are nearly neck and neck here, for the average driver who doesn't race, it wouldn't be worth it to buy K&N products whether it be their oil or air filters (especially if you live in the desert or other dusty conditions) if we're talking about cost, so Purolator wins this one at least for me.

  • @Eddie-kn3yt
    @Eddie-kn3yt Před rokem +1

    Thank you for all of your videos, really appreciate them! So the question we would like to know. After all of your testing, do you have a favorite filter or brand? I've been using PureOne's for almost 30 years with great UOA's and just recently am I contemplating using Fram Ultras for the first time because of your videos. Thanks!

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před rokem +2

      You're Welcome, Eddie! I like the Purolator Boss filters and the Fram Titaniums and Ultras. The Purolator One is a good filter also.

  • @vincemajestyk9497
    @vincemajestyk9497 Před 2 lety +3

    Viton is a nice material. They used to use it for valve seals. It's more temperature and oil resistant. Those K&N's are WAY over-priced in my opinion. I bought one at Walmart a few years ago and it was 10 or $11. Way too much money for that filter, but the features are nice. They must not have a big turnover on those with a 2020 dated one still on the shelf. I would take the 'One' any day over the K&N.

  • @haac4825
    @haac4825 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Kn pleats are soo nice and even. Any video of Fram Titanium? Interested in buying that one.

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 4 měsíci

      Here's one, but they stopped making them with the wire screen backing so it's basically a Fram Ultra filter now. czcams.com/video/d5ULRcCNy5E/video.html

  • @dontderockmerizz3211
    @dontderockmerizz3211 Před 2 lety +1

    A few years ago K&N was having issues with that filter. They were leaking where the nut is welded to it. Idk if they fixed it or not. I like the black K&N silver series better.

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 2 lety +1

      I didn't know that.
      Thanks for sharing.

    • @jkulysses
      @jkulysses Před 8 měsíci

      The black silver series of K&N is exactly the same as the Supertech filter at Walmart just twice the price and black paint instead of blue. The Supertech version is a crazy good deal.

  • @spankyham9607
    @spankyham9607 Před 2 lety +3

    I don't see the K&N being worth the increase of cost. If it had a similar filter media as the Fram XP, for example, then I would certainly give them a gold star. The Purolator One is $7.49 at Menards which goes to show how much mark up parts stores have on filters.

  • @cajunweatherman8974
    @cajunweatherman8974 Před 2 lety

    Another great video Whip! It would have been nice to see the Purolator Boss if there was one for the same fitment to compare to the K&N.

  • @degvello21
    @degvello21 Před 10 měsíci

    Thank you for all you doing, but I can't stop myself from asking - what is about wheiting this all ? spring may be lighter or hevier but ultimately it has really nothing to do with function of the filter itself... honestly it would've been better to see something which will demonstrate function of the filter and not just "can weight 3 gram more then that" .. who cares about it ? length of the media - yes... quality of the media - yes, quality of the spring - yes etc etc etc .. Also in the end is "what filter you think is better"... well.. I think it's best to get the one you considering better based on your expertise .. oh... you don't say which one is better .. ups.. ... got ta go then ... I ordered bosh :)

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 10 měsíci

      You don't like the weight, other people like the weight, I can't please everyone.
      Bosh Premium is a good filter, try to get one that's made in USA, they are usually better made.
      Thanks!

  • @Andrew__Smith
    @Andrew__Smith Před 2 lety

    Good idea: sound the thread and the size of the gasket (for better finding analogues).

  • @kevinbensel8954
    @kevinbensel8954 Před 2 lety

    Great review, thanks for content!

  • @84imreplica
    @84imreplica Před 2 lety +2

    "When the dust clears we'll see who the winner is" In the end you didn't say which one you thought was the winner. Was it a tie? If so why didn't you say so?

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 2 lety +1

      I will usually point out the oil filters' good and bad points, I don't want to be the one who says which one is better! I'll leave that up to you guys watching the video.

  • @mimelio
    @mimelio Před 2 lety +1

    Two good filters with me it would come down to which one I get the best price on

  • @ariesmight6978
    @ariesmight6978 Před rokem

    K&N performance gold oil filter rating. Is 10 to 20 microns. K&N standard is rated at 25 microns. With Wix micron rating at 35 microns.

  • @todd5082
    @todd5082 Před 2 lety +2

    How about measuring instead of saying, “about the same size” and “looks about the same” ?

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 2 lety +1

      I did measure them, what did I miss?

    • @todd5082
      @todd5082 Před 2 lety +3

      @@WhipCityWrencher I was referring to the base plates threads and drain holes. Don’t take it personal I love watching these oil filter comparisons.

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 2 lety +2

      @@todd5082 I'm not taking it personally, but I just can't measure everything, the video is 13 minutes. It's longer than most people like. I may have to cut out some of the weighings to make them shorter. Maybe just weigh the whole filter and that's it. We'll see.

    • @SlikLizrd
      @SlikLizrd Před 2 lety +1

      @@WhipCityWrencher Hold on there, Whip City !!
      PLEASE don't leave out PERTINENT information in order to shorten the run time of your videos --
      PERTINENT info includes:
      Micron Rating per ISO 4548-12.
      Type of Filtering Media.
      Square Inches of Filtering Media.
      # of holes in Base Plate.
      Gasket material.
      Core Material.
      Holes or Louvers.
      By-Pass Valve location.
      By-Pass Valve opening pressure.
      Cannister Thickness (in thousandths of an inch).
      Country of origin.
      Date of Manufacture -- NOT internal tracking codes.
      Wanna save time !??
      Leave the gaskets alone -- no need to monkey with them.
      Don't bother with the Internal Tracking Codes -- they are useless to the oil filter buyers.
      The Coil Spring is OBSOLETE -- forget about it -- and pass the word. 😃
      Same with the Wire Mesh Screen -- it came and went -- too bulky, and left no room for PLEATS.
      The Coil Spring and the Wire Screen have proven that the juice ain't worth the squeeze.
      Time to move on.

    • @jeffkortsch8276
      @jeffkortsch8276 Před rokem

      @@SlikLizrd "The Coil Spring is OBSOLETE -- forget about it -- and pass the word" - read the gospel according to the Fram website and learn all the truths about the stamped leaf retainer spring.

  • @BamaTidefan1967
    @BamaTidefan1967 Před 2 lety +4

    Both are good filters but unfortunately due to the cost(Advance Auto is expensive) there are better filters out there. The only way I ever get one of these is if they have a great oil/filter deal that interests me which is rare.

    • @dennywires
      @dennywires Před 2 lety +1

      My advance auto had a Mobil deal going 39.99 with a $15 mail in rebate. Any filter of choice. Mobil, frams, purolator even the kn and their car quest house brand.

    • @BamaTidefan1967
      @BamaTidefan1967 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dennywires That's a good deal! I wish my vehicles only took 4 or 5 quarts unfortunately they both take 6. They really break it off in you on those extra quart bottles!

    • @GT-mn3bx
      @GT-mn3bx Před 2 lety +1

      @@BamaTidefan1967 Oil doesn't go bad. Buy the jugs for next time.
      Just turn them upside down and shake good. You should always do that anyway.

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks for your Feedback!

    • @SlikLizrd
      @SlikLizrd Před 2 lety +1

      @@BamaTidefan1967 Buy two (2) Jugs, and save the rest for later. It won't get stale !!

  • @user-dj1le5rj8y
    @user-dj1le5rj8y Před 11 měsíci

    Maybe Mann + Hummel made Pennzoil oil filter.

  • @TargaWheels
    @TargaWheels Před 2 lety

    I'm wondering if K&N products in general, are riding on the success of their air filter. Their air filters are great, but the oil filter looks like it isn't. Yet its about $6 more expensive than the comparable purolator. Hmm...

  • @WhipCityWrencher
    @WhipCityWrencher  Před 2 lety +6

    ► Oil Filter Friday, watch a New Automotive oil filter inspection video every Friday on this CZcams Channel.

  • @drumtwo4seven
    @drumtwo4seven Před 2 lety +1

    Nice 👍

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 2 lety

      Hi Drum,
      Thanks!

    • @Antiliblife187
      @Antiliblife187 Před 2 lety

      Both decent filters but for the price I would choose Napa or baldwin. Not a fan of the stamped steel leaf springs these filters have. Good video Whip!

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 2 lety +1

      @@Antiliblife187 Thank You!
      and Thanks for your feedback!

  • @TheUrbanWolf13
    @TheUrbanWolf13 Před rokem

    You should do radio

  • @izzydizzy1115
    @izzydizzy1115 Před 4 měsíci

    "This could get ugly!"😂

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 4 měsíci

      😊

    • @izzydizzy1115
      @izzydizzy1115 Před 4 měsíci

      @@WhipCityWrencher Thanks for the entertaining and interesting videos! I appreciate your work!

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 4 měsíci

      @@izzydizzy1115 You're Welcome👍
      Glad you like the videos!

  • @broken1965
    @broken1965 Před rokem +1

    The Boss would be equivalent

  • @bigjim5551212
    @bigjim5551212 Před 2 lety

    Surprised k&n is smaller. Puro is what I have on my vehicle

  • @egalgan9281
    @egalgan9281 Před 2 lety

    How can I send you some filters ?

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 2 lety

      Hi,
      Send me an email and I'll give you my address. My email is Poker4me007@gmail.com

  • @MustangGuru
    @MustangGuru Před 4 měsíci

    My car has 90psi on cold start so the Purolater bypass will be open during cold start if it’s rated at 12-18psi . Cruising oil pressure is 40psi. So the bypass will open all the time for my car. No thanks

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 4 měsíci +1

      If your oil filter is not clogged the pressure needed for the oil to go through the filter should not exceed the bypass valve pressure. The oil should flow freely through the oil filter. I hope that explanation works for you. Most oil filters have bypass valves that are below 20 psi.

  • @yourworstfear
    @yourworstfear Před 2 lety

    the best is white cloud

  • @SlikLizrd
    @SlikLizrd Před 2 lety +1

    It looks like some ignorant creep copied-&-pasted my entire comment, put her own name on it, and stole it for her own.
    It MUST have been a woman, as NO MAN would be so petty, dishonest, and deceptive.
    But wait !! There's more !!
    Different people's names show up next to MY avatar -- along with MY comments.
    And it only happens on Whip City Wrencher's reviews.
    I wonder why !??

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 2 lety +1

      I have no idea what's going on? Where is it? Post a reply to it and I should see it.

    • @SlikLizrd
      @SlikLizrd Před 2 lety +1

      @@WhipCityWrencher Yo, Whip !!
      There were two (2) posts put up today that were direct copies of words that I wrote earlier -- with middle-Eastern names.
      And no "reply" button under their stolen comments, or I would have approached the culprits directly.
      As I said before, Imitation is the greatest form of flattery.
      They can flatter me all they want !!! 😄

    • @WhipCityWrencher
      @WhipCityWrencher  Před 2 lety +1

      @@SlikLizrd 👍😊
      I have to ask, It's pretty hot here in MA. for the last couple of days, 90°s. The temp here right now is 93° and I'm melting. lol, It Sucks!
      How is it in AZ.?

    • @SlikLizrd
      @SlikLizrd Před 2 lety

      @@WhipCityWrencher YIKES !!
      Seems like that global warming was NOT a "Democrat hoax", after all.
      Stupid Trumpers !!
      I watch the weather for Philly, (born there) and it's been hot there, too.
      It's 13:25 on Friday, and it's 112 F. at my home in Phoenix.
      Hottest day so far this year is 116.1 at my house - in the shade.
      Hope you get some cool weather soon !!

    • @jeffkortsch8276
      @jeffkortsch8276 Před rokem

      @@SlikLizrd I'd blame the coil spring mafia - they are out to debunk the stamped leaf retainer spring information from the Fram website.