Sorry To hear that 🙁 Mexico, China they seem to be making them all over the place. It's too bad Rock Auto and others don't let you where they are made before buying. It's a gamble we take when ordering online.🙁 Thanks for the info👍 I'm going to pin your comment so that it sits on top.
The Purolator Boss #PBL14610 is what I use for my 2020 Honda Civic LX, in conjunction with either Amsoil or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. I like the NAPA Platinum oil filter, as well. The extra costs buy me high end quality and peace of mind, so for me, it's worth it. Thanks for the comparisons, Pete.
I use amsoil as well but the way I see it is if you’re gunna spend the extra money to buy amsoil motor oil than you might as well use there filters as well 🤷🏻♂️ so I buy the amsoil filters as well
The Boss! I've never felt a filter so heavy and strong. Thing's a tank, the media cant be pulled apart. Putting in my Escalade today with Liqui Moly oil. Moving on from Mobil 1 filter and Royal Purple oil. No issues at all. Both were quality. I just try new shit constantly. Thanks for the thorough video. Got it for just $12.
Hey Pete, I went to Advanced Auto Parts today, they had Pennzoil Ultra platinum with a Purolator Boss for $41.99 can't beat that. Well made filter, and it's made in the USA. I use the same PBL14610.
@@ajmedeiros77 Of course my price reference is the one Whip gave. AAP usually has 15% discount code, but the Boss is still a relatively high priced filter.
Bosch looks like a good filter for the cost. I have used both filters in the past with no issues. Purolator boss always seemed to fit nice on my wife's Nissan Rogue when we had it. Awesome video! Happy Thanksgiving!
This one is difficult... Hard to say. Yes there is a substantial price difference between the two. However overall cost of an oil change by $10 isn't that big of a deal with me. The synthetic filter media looked better to me under the microscope 🔬. The Bosch did seem less consistent with a few thinner areas here and there. Honestly because of the metal backing mesh and microscope images I'd go with the Purolator. Good review 👍
I use the Bosch on my Honda. I’ve cut open about 5 of these after being used. The one you open is probably one of the worst I’ve seen. None of them have had perfect spacing in the media but not that bad. But I’ve been buying them 5 at a time on Rock Auto with shipping it’s comes out just under $5 per filter.
See my other comment. The BP Whip cut open not the same as the previous made by Purolator in the US, Bosch Premium 3323. I've been doing same with Rock Auto, but seeing the Hencho en Mexico BP, I won't be buying more.
@@xvxjimboxvx Actually, Bosch Premium and Workshop oil filters have been made in the US by Purolator for a long time. At least since 2006 when they along with Mann bought Purolator US from ArvinMeritor. Before that the Bosch Premium was made by Champ Labs in the US. The BP change to Mexico coo is a recent occurrence. Unfortunate, imo.
I've always used Bosch filters because of the low cost and good filtration specifications. Just recently, I noticed the origin of the manufacturing switch from USA to Mexico. Even from the outside they look different, round holes instead of elongated. After watching this video, maybe it's time to look for a different filter.
@@GT-mn3bx Yeah according to the rating that existed when it was made by Purolator US. I'm not positive the case now, and the Mexican BP looks pretty shabby. I'd don't care about the rating, if cost was the same or close, I would take the Boss easily here. 99%@25um, not bad at all.
Menards is a good place to get Purolator for low price; currently $6.67 for this one. Surprised that the Purolator filter I bought recently had a couple pieces of metal thread debris (swarf?) hanging off the end of the thread cut.
Well surprising at the quality of the Bosch versus the Purolator. Considering both are made by Mann and Hummel. Back in the day. That's all we used to use on the farm. Equipment was Purolator.
IDK, I'm not 100% positive now the made in Mexico BP is made by M&H now. It's possible, but unless one knows the plant in Mexico, can't with certainty M&H still makes them.
As many of you have observed the price of oil filters has skyrocketed in the last several months. Even more amazing is the amount of Autozone and Advance auto stores that are opening on a consistent basis. I'm not saying there's a lot of price gouging on these filters but.....
Thanks, yes.. My MOPAR filters too.. Though, interestingly, biggest issue I recently had was “ Replace four Plugs, 2015 Journey 4 CYL(* SERVICE MANUEL definitely has service -Replace @every 30,000 miles*), charge was an unexpected $460.00.(( a lot than more Previously:: really must find charge, couple years ago)…Anyways, at age 75 , I cut back wrenching a lot on my Vehicles::: May restart plus, etc.
@@opera93 Labor $200 per hour. So they claim 2hours 15 minutes plus shop supplies. Didposal fee and $20.pet plug. Find out ahead of time what the Tine requieed is. Find a independent and get quotes once you know rge Shop time.Knowlege is power. Yes 30k is correct for Plug replacement. On our Chrysler vehicles we do deviate from tgat snd use OEM plugs from Rock Auto
@@user-hs9gp7po9t thanks,,,, Service person suggested now have 90,000 mile plugs *& NEW SERVICE REPLACEMENT Interval, CODIFIED ((?.) .. though did seem a high Service $$ Total. .. kind of wondering IF this 2015 JOURNEY,**2.4 L/4 CYL ,16 valve VVT “VIN B”, still be running @180,000 miles, though I bought the Lifetime OIL CHANGE ( they used MOPAR Conventional 5 W-20 Oil, and PERFORMAX/ PENZZOIL -167, filters )):: @ 3-4000 miles…freq I put BOSS PUROLATOR/ MOPAR FILTER “early.”…. Been considering VALVOLINE FULL SYN 5W-20, & Payment $70…….( my regular Garage / Tire Shop charge…. ) HELENA VALLEY MT…..
Price gives it to the Bosch filter. In normal day to day driving it will do a great job. And at the price you can change the filter midway and still save money
As the media on the two filters are different and distinct types, synthetic vs cellulose/blend, a direct comparison of area not really applicable. Full synthetic media is depth media, cellulose is surface media. The same would apply to the micro view comparison. The Bosch Premium has been made by Purolator, same plant as the Boss. The topic made in Mexico BP, not sure who is making it now. Could be M&H or someone else. The Purolator made BP was very similar to the Pure One PL14610, minus the ptfe coated sealing gasket. Disappointing the BP no longer made in US, no bueno. It also doesn't look near as well made. The Boss is the better filter but NOT for $17. I'd get the Pure One PL14610 before either of the two compared. Thanks for video.
@@GT-mn3bx Yes, the Pure One PL has the better efficiency rating of the two. The Puro US made Bosch Premium has the same efficiency rating as the P1, except now that it has Mexico coo, I'm leery it can be trusted.
Good comparison vid. I wonder why that particular Bosch is made in Mexico? I'd run the Boss if I did long OCIs but I only go 5k on my oil changes on two of my cars because they are high mileage. For those cars, I got a case of Bosch 3422's that are US made by Purolator/Mann+Hummel for $2.50 each shipped. I cut two open along with a single Pure One and both are the same in every way including specs, so the Boss would just be different filter media than those two. The US made Bosch's I have, have nearly perfect pleat spacing with very little glue slop. The Boss isn't worth 5x-6x the cost unless you're doing extended OCIs IMO.
Hey, long time viewer here. Seen the oil filter vids since they started, love them even though they're basically pointless/irrelevant to me lol. Anyways, I found a new 1970s STP oil filter at a thrift store today and bought it in case you wanted me to send it to you for a video. If so let me know and I'll email you. It's a beefy one. Says "Andy Granatelli's" on the box, it's just super cool imo and I'd love to see you examine it and tear it down. Compare different components and designs to modern filters. Thanks for your content 👌
Thank, great idea.. interestingly, I like the old reviews(* though, seems better to inspect before *& AFTER (!!) use of Filters: the other half of ISSUES is the motor longevity’s/ Operations……I done lots of OCI, WR3NCHING STARTING IN 1970……** though cut back a lot lately, etc…
Ps: being from Indiana , the old STP, INDY500, ANDY GRANITELLI, etc BIG CONNECTIONS.. from 1960s(??), I KIND OF LIKE MONROE SHOCKS , winning the INDY 500, *& ads since th3 1960s…..((* Actually still MONROE F@Anbiy , though our Journey 2015 , just gOT NAPA SPECTRUM Struts/ Shocks all around, @95,000 miles…Jury still out, we kind of like NAPA STUFF((* no real MONROE Gurantors here in HELENA Valley,or fan bases…) …
Thanks Pete! The Boss won this match up, hands down. The Bosch seems almost like an entry to mid level quality filter. The glue job was straight trash on the Bosch.
Love Filter Friday! That seam on the bosch looks suspicious. I have never been a fan of Bosch products. It's a big name, but the quality has never been there (in my opinion). Price point is with the Fram EG. Definitely would select the Bosch over the EG. Would definitely say the purolator is much better, but the price point is much higher. As someone mentioned below I would use the boss, but for less interval.
When you list the prices of both filters, please include the shipping cost for the Rock Auto filter. Yes, the price may be cheaper, but when you add in the shipping cost that changes things.
You'll definitely want to order more than just (1) oil filter to justify the cost. Not to mention, making sure that all items come from the same distribution facility.
The Bosch filter is not bad at all for the price. It only needs to have more even spaces between the pleats in its media. And, hopefully, all of their other filters don’t have that much glue showing in its seam. Geez, some filters are getting expensive! Have a great fall weekend. Pete! 🍂🍁🍂
@@WhipCityWrencherI use both of these filters. The Bosch Premium, I’ll use it when the weather is warmer and the oci’s at around 5-6K miles. The Purolator Boss, I use it with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-20 in the winter when my oci could get as high as 10k miles.
Great comparison of a high-end filter and a lower-end filter. The Purolator Boss is the better filter with higher end components but is it $13 better than the Bosch? If you are using the vehicle manufacturer's recommended oil change interval and you change the filter every oil change, is it worth the money to have a filter that can go 20,000 miles?
Any adequate person is simply infuriated by these astronomical figures !!! Well, really, after 2020 they perceive us as complete imbeciles!!! On the other hand: can you trust a company that thinks we are a complete idiot??? 🤔
In the 2005-2015 range, Bosch Premium and Mobil 1 Extended Performance were the same exact filter. I would run the Purolator 1 or the Bosch.....better micron ratings.
I just don't get the "lasts for 20,000 miles" my filters get changed every oil change, cut open and check for trash, how else are you going to catch a problem before it's catastrophic. I wouldn't buy the cheapest filters but with my service intervals I would not go more than $15 for a filter, last time I bought a dozen black Tokyo Roki filters for my Forester I payed $10 each, my car was made in Japan it gets a Japanese made filter and the exact fluids made by Idemitsu for Subaru. Been busy haven't kept up with your videos, I like the microscope shots👍
Whip, I used to be a Bosch oil filter fan, but I’ve seen you cut open a few of them and all are very sloppy on the inside. I no longer use them after seeing this. Great video though!
Thanks! The one in this video was made in Mexico. I opened one the other day that was made in the USA, and it looked pretty good that video will be shown on Dec. 1st.
For the money the Bosch is a very well made filter and would work fine for a lot of vehicles. I bough a few of them on sale once for my F150 and there were no issues with them at all.
If you want to change filters more often the Bosch is a decent filter for the money...But the Boss is rated for a much longer OCI distance... I think thier Pure One is a really great filter for the price ... But if you want to drive a long time between OCI's, with a Quality filter, The Boss is the way to go!!! Great Video as always!!! THANX
I always cut my used filters open. But a general rule is the cellulose or enhanced cellulose is a slightly tighter filter, 20 microns vs 25 microns, so will filter slightly better, but will have to be changed earlier.
Just got a couple purolator ones, had to use some mineral oil and cleaning tips to clean out the machined threads, very dirty with filings. Would appreciate if you’d show the cleanliness of the threads on these comparisons
Thanks, any other findings? Interestingly, I never had any Purolator BOSS ( for sure) issues with metal/grooves/visually… But, some should be packed better, & with sealed shur ends ( I.e. the Royal Purples, etc)….!,
I would go with the Boss, but if I wanted to go with an inexpensive filter, the Bosch looks like it would be a winner. I wouldn't want to use the Bosch with longer filter change intervals {Over 5000 miles} or if I drove my vehicle like someone who wants to tear their vehicle up. {Hard and fast. Someone who wants to pretend that they are race car drivers.}
Boss no question!! The Bosch is made cheaper by a lot cheaper labor!! Another good video Pete!! Thanks for your insight!! Have a Happy Safe Thanksgiving buddy!! 🦃
There’s not a big price difference after you pay shipping at rock auto. Last time I went to order a filter it was $6 shipping. I just went to Walmart and got a motorcraft for $6.
The p-boss filter is not worth the additional 3x+ cost vs the Bosch with it’s filter media at 99% down to was it 20micron which is good. At the $6 price point The Bosch filter is fine for 3k mile oil & filter changes,could go as much as 4-5k miles but that’s pushing it with its std fiber filter media. But If your doing 5k+ mile oil & filter changes & these were the only 2 filters avail I’d go with the p-boss filter. That’s due to the p-boss synthetic filter media thats also backed by some fort of mesh material too making it more higher mile resilient/youth.
Thank you for your time too much hard work just buy Bosch change every 3 to 5000 miles cheap engine expensive oil filter very cheap if you keep your car for many years like I do if you keep it for 2😢3 years nobody bothers they just give it in and get a new one
I ran 4 oil changes without changing the Purolator 20k filter, each time using full synthetic oil at 5k mile intervals for change. Did you do a test to see how the oil filter look like after 20k miles? I was told even if it's rated 20k miles you should change every 5k miles...so now I'm curious.
5K is a good oil change interval for most. Sure, the Boss filter will last that 20,000 miles in a clean engine, but in an engine that runs dirty with soot/carbon, it may get clogged up and run in bypass most of the time. 20K is just marketing hype. You can do your oil changes the way that you are doing them, but you'll be mixing used oil that's still in the oil filter with new oil every time you change your oil.17,000 miles is the longest OCI-used oil filter that I opened, here's a link, Thanks! czcams.com/video/ZEigd1Hu8s0/video.html
The Bosch looks like the threads have burrs that are falling off and could get in the engine. I don’t like seeing metal burrs. Anyone else notice that?
Mid tier Bosch vs Top tier Purolator Boss....The workmanship on the Boss doesn't look so hot on the sloppy glue seam and uneven pleats. Although it shouldn't be on issue though I just like the neater pleats on the Boss. Plus the Boss is a full synthetic media.
Shipping from Rock Auto is a part of their profit and a game to make it appear a better price. I bet your shipping happened to make the 3323 close to the price it sells everywhere else, my guess is $9-$10.
Rock Auto it only makes sense when you buy a bunch of stuff.. I just added some things I needed and then I put an oil filter at the end and they are not charging any extra shipping when I add in the oil filter..
Wow!!! Well, first of all, you're comparing incomparable things: The *Bosch 3323* filter uses _Synthetic Blend media_ (which is actually not very different from ordinary cellulose paper in terms of filtration, but only provides better tensile strength and better resists soaking from water.) Therefore, it is correct to compare it with the filter *Purolator One PL14610* ( _Synthetic Blend media_ ) Secondly, you give incomparable information on the screen at a price! On Amazon the delivery of this filter is free, on RockAuto it is a minimum of $5.99!!! On *Amazon as of Nov/18/2022* , the Purolator One PL14610 filter was $9.46 + state tax (Calculate for my Florida max possible rate in some places 7.5% + shipping. So: Purolator One PL14610 Amazon price $9.46x1.075+0=$10.17 BOSH 3323 with RockAuto price $3.42x1.075 +$5.99=$9.67 As you can see: at RockAuto - cheaper by 50 cents!!!😅
@@WhipCityWrencher I'm just for the fact: - compare the filter with a filter element made of synthetic fabric, then on the other hand, the filter should also be with a filter element made of synthetic fabric too. And, as my investigation showed, there are no miracles: similar filters have approximately the same cost. p.s More: At *Amazon* ( _official Purolator receller_ ) Purolator *PBL14610* (filter what you review here) - *$13,99* +state tax+0
@@Andrew__Smith Most if not all the filters I open now are from viewer requests, which I buy where ever it's more convenient for me, and also viewers send me oil filters which I will happily compare to whatever oil filter they send me as long as they are for the same applications.
@@faxmen09 I hear you but I stand by what I stated.. Go inspect the Premium Guard or Ecogard brand filter.. They are clearly above the us stuff with regard to consistency of QA and both these brands list efficiency.. With RA you don't pay any extra shipping for an OF if you are buying a bunch of stuff.
@@memopadilla5931 So bad it should have been thrown away? No. Definitely not jobber tier as you implied. EG does not publish an ISO 4548-12 efficiency spec. I'll pass. At this point best just say agree to disagree with your conclusions.
Bosch is junk compared to the Boss. Very disappointing. I remember back when the domestic Bosch filters used to be nearly identical to their Purolator counterparts. Nothing about this Bosch filter looks like a Purolator. I guess that's down to M+H's production decisions.
Can’t defend the Bosch media construction here, sad. But honestly, we have to stop kidding ourselves. In this day and age you DO NOT get what you pay for! Marketing gimmicks and BS rule - does the daily driver need a thicker can or double-layer baseplate? IMHO, absolutely not. However, we’re human and think ‘well, this one seems more robust, and it’s much more expensive, so it’s gotta be better’. We are over-rationalizing and the marketing pukes are laughing all the way to da bank. Rant over…
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Recently purchased (5) of the Bosch Premium filters from RockAuto and disappointedly found they were made in China.
Sorry To hear that 🙁
Mexico, China they seem to be making them all over the place. It's too bad Rock Auto and others don't let you where they are made before buying. It's a gamble we take when ordering online.🙁
Thanks for the info👍 I'm going to pin your comment so that it sits on top.
The Purolator Boss #PBL14610 is what I use for my 2020 Honda Civic LX, in conjunction with either Amsoil or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum. I like the NAPA Platinum oil filter, as well. The extra costs buy me high end quality and peace of mind, so for me, it's worth it. Thanks for the comparisons, Pete.
The Wix Regular/Napa Gold actually filters better.
@@GT-mn3bx NAPA GOLD, PUROLATOR ONE, AND CARQUEST PREMIUM BLUE are the same filter, I open each one up and couldnt tell the difference between them..
You're Welcome!
I use the same oils. Because of Project Farm. You?
I use amsoil as well but the way I see it is if you’re gunna spend the extra money to buy amsoil motor oil than you might as well use there filters as well 🤷🏻♂️ so I buy the amsoil filters as well
The Boss! I've never felt a filter so heavy and strong. Thing's a tank, the media cant be pulled apart. Putting in my Escalade today with Liqui Moly oil. Moving on from Mobil 1 filter and Royal Purple oil. No issues at all. Both were quality. I just try new shit constantly. Thanks for the thorough video. Got it for just $12.
Hi Neil
Thanks for Sharing👍
Fram Ultra Synthetic or Fram Endurance are far better! Efficiency & micron rating. Just sayin! 💯
Hey Pete, I went to Advanced Auto Parts today, they had Pennzoil Ultra platinum with a Purolator Boss for $41.99 can't beat that. Well made filter, and it's made in the USA. I use the same PBL14610.
Hi Bad,
That's a good pair and price👍 I like both of those👍
It seems to me that the Purolator media is better. Tough stuff!
The Boss media is better, full synthetic, backed media. Not for $17 though.
@@faxmen09 damn even at the advanced around here full price the most I’ve seen it at is $14
@@ajmedeiros77 Of course my price reference is the one Whip gave. AAP usually has 15% discount code, but the Boss is still a relatively high priced filter.
@@faxmen09 Just bought this exact Purolator Boss for $11 at Advanced Auto Parts. Great well made filter made in the USA 🇺🇸
Bosch looks like a good filter for the cost. I have used both filters in the past with no issues. Purolator boss always seemed to fit nice on my wife's Nissan Rogue when we had it. Awesome video! Happy Thanksgiving!
Hi K Beg, Thanks!
Happy Thanksgiving to you also!🦃
This one is difficult... Hard to say.
Yes there is a substantial price difference between the two. However overall cost of an oil change by $10 isn't that big of a deal with me.
The synthetic filter media looked better to me under the microscope 🔬. The Bosch did seem less consistent with a few thinner areas here and there.
Honestly because of the metal backing mesh and microscope images I'd go with the Purolator.
Good review 👍
Hi Drum,
Thank You!
Actually, it's called a Polymer Mesh backing, (feels like a plastic screen).😊
Thanks for the feedback!👍
The big difference is the filtration which, according to the manufacturers, is much better for the Bosch (20 v. 25 micron).
I use the Bosch on my Honda. I’ve cut open about 5 of these after being used. The one you open is probably one of the worst I’ve seen. None of them have had perfect spacing in the media but not that bad. But I’ve been buying them 5 at a time on Rock Auto with shipping it’s comes out just under $5 per filter.
See my other comment. The BP Whip cut open not the same as the previous made by Purolator in the US, Bosch Premium 3323. I've been doing same with Rock Auto, but seeing the Hencho en Mexico BP, I won't be buying more.
@@faxmen09 more and more filters are moving from American made so choices are getting slim. Plus it Bosch I would not expect it to be American made.
@@xvxjimboxvx Actually, Bosch Premium and Workshop oil filters have been made in the US by Purolator for a long time. At least since 2006 when they along with Mann bought Purolator US from ArvinMeritor. Before that the Bosch Premium was made by Champ Labs in the US. The BP change to Mexico coo is a recent occurrence. Unfortunate, imo.
Thanks, Mike,
It probably is the worst-looking Bosch that I have opened.
I've always used Bosch filters because of the low cost and good filtration specifications. Just recently, I noticed the origin of the manufacturing switch from USA to Mexico. Even from the outside they look different, round holes instead of elongated. After watching this video, maybe it's time to look for a different filter.
purolator boss. Definitely. It's fully synthetic media. I would use Bosch if i cared that much about the price.
The Bosch filters better. Better micron rating.
@@GT-mn3bx Yeah according to the rating that existed when it was made by Purolator US. I'm not positive the case now, and the Mexican BP looks pretty shabby. I'd don't care about the rating, if cost was the same or close, I would take the Boss easily here. 99%@25um, not bad at all.
Boss all the way, from your videos I’ve learned a lot about filters, and I think purolator boss is the best one for the money
Another good review. It looks as if Purolator is the Boss! Have a great weekend Pete and TFS. Merri :)
Purolator 1 filters better. At least according to their own soecs.
Thanks, Merri!
Have a great week end also!
Menards is a good place to get Purolator for low price; currently $6.67 for this one.
Surprised that the Purolator filter I bought recently had a couple pieces of metal thread debris (swarf?) hanging off the end of the thread cut.
Well surprising at the quality of the Bosch versus the Purolator. Considering both are made by Mann and Hummel. Back in the day. That's all we used to use on the farm. Equipment was Purolator.
IDK, I'm not 100% positive now the made in Mexico BP is made by M&H now. It's possible, but unless one knows the plant in Mexico, can't with certainty M&H still makes them.
As many of you have observed the price of oil filters has skyrocketed in the last several months. Even more amazing is the amount of Autozone and Advance auto stores that are opening on a consistent basis. I'm not saying there's a lot of price gouging on these filters but.....
Thanks, yes.. My MOPAR filters too.. Though, interestingly, biggest issue I recently had was “ Replace four Plugs, 2015 Journey 4 CYL(* SERVICE MANUEL definitely has service -Replace @every 30,000 miles*), charge was an unexpected $460.00.(( a lot than more Previously:: really must find charge, couple years ago)…Anyways, at age 75 , I cut back wrenching a lot on my Vehicles::: May restart plus, etc.
@@opera93 Labor $200 per hour. So they claim 2hours 15 minutes plus shop supplies. Didposal fee and $20.pet plug. Find out ahead of time what the Tine requieed is. Find a independent and get quotes once you know rge Shop time.Knowlege is power. Yes 30k is correct for Plug replacement. On our Chrysler vehicles we do deviate from tgat snd use OEM plugs from Rock Auto
@@user-hs9gp7po9t thanks,,,, Service person suggested now have 90,000 mile plugs *& NEW SERVICE REPLACEMENT Interval, CODIFIED ((?.) .. though did seem a high Service $$ Total. .. kind of wondering IF this 2015 JOURNEY,**2.4 L/4 CYL ,16 valve VVT “VIN B”, still be running @180,000 miles, though I bought the Lifetime OIL CHANGE ( they used MOPAR Conventional 5 W-20 Oil, and PERFORMAX/ PENZZOIL -167, filters )):: @ 3-4000 miles…freq I put BOSS PUROLATOR/ MOPAR FILTER “early.”…. Been considering VALVOLINE FULL SYN 5W-20, & Payment $70…….( my regular Garage / Tire Shop charge…. ) HELENA VALLEY MT…..
@@opera93 It made it this far on conventional oil.Why Chsnge? We use the same filter. Key for that combo is 5000 between oil change max
I’ll spend the extra money for made in the USA
At my. Menards.....in twin city's...year ago I picked up 4 of the boss.filters .. for
6 bucks each....
That's a Great Deal, Thanks for Sharing👍
Price gives it to the Bosch filter. In normal day to day driving it will do a great job. And at the price you can change the filter midway and still save money
Purolator makes a nice filter but not sure it's 5 times the price better.
I don't believe it is. The Pure One PL14610 has a better efficiency rating, and costs much less. Still made in US too.
@@faxmen09 Yes. Pure one is better. Most of these 10K plus filters have terrible micron ratings.
Probably, either one's fine.
As the media on the two filters are different and distinct types, synthetic vs cellulose/blend, a direct comparison of area not really applicable. Full synthetic media is depth media, cellulose is surface media. The same would apply to the micro view comparison. The Bosch Premium has been made by Purolator, same plant as the Boss. The topic made in Mexico BP, not sure who is making it now. Could be M&H or someone else. The Purolator made BP was very similar to the Pure One PL14610, minus the ptfe coated sealing gasket. Disappointing the BP no longer made in US, no bueno. It also doesn't look near as well made. The Boss is the better filter but NOT for $17. I'd get the Pure One PL14610 before either of the two compared. Thanks for video.
The pure one is better just based on their own specs. Same for Wix/Napa Gold. Cleaner oil is better oil.
@@GT-mn3bx Yes, the Pure One PL has the better efficiency rating of the two. The Puro US made Bosch Premium has the same efficiency rating as the P1, except now that it has Mexico coo, I'm leery it can be trusted.
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Good comparison vid. I wonder why that particular Bosch is made in Mexico? I'd run the Boss if I did long OCIs but I only go 5k on my oil changes on two of my cars because they are high mileage. For those cars, I got a case of Bosch 3422's that are US made by Purolator/Mann+Hummel for $2.50 each shipped. I cut two open along with a single Pure One and both are the same in every way including specs, so the Boss would just be different filter media than those two. The US made Bosch's I have, have nearly perfect pleat spacing with very little glue slop. The Boss isn't worth 5x-6x the cost unless you're doing extended OCIs IMO.
Thanks for Sharing!
Hey, long time viewer here. Seen the oil filter vids since they started, love them even though they're basically pointless/irrelevant to me lol. Anyways, I found a new 1970s STP oil filter at a thrift store today and bought it in case you wanted me to send it to you for a video. If so let me know and I'll email you. It's a beefy one. Says "Andy Granatelli's" on the box, it's just super cool imo and I'd love to see you examine it and tear it down. Compare different components and designs to modern filters. Thanks for your content 👌
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Thank, great idea.. interestingly, I like the old reviews(* though, seems better to inspect before *& AFTER (!!) use of Filters: the other half of ISSUES is the motor longevity’s/ Operations……I done lots of OCI, WR3NCHING STARTING IN 1970……** though cut back a lot lately, etc…
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Thanks Pete! The Boss won this match up, hands down. The Bosch seems almost like an entry to mid level quality filter. The glue job was straight trash on the Bosch.
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That seam on the bosch looks suspicious. I have never been a fan of Bosch products. It's a big name, but the quality has never been there (in my opinion).
Price point is with the Fram EG. Definitely would select the Bosch over the EG. Would definitely say the purolator is much better, but the price point is much higher.
As someone mentioned below I would use the boss, but for less interval.
When you list the prices of both filters, please include the shipping cost for the Rock Auto filter. Yes, the price may be cheaper, but when you add in the shipping cost that changes things.
Shipping is not going to be the same, depends on where you live.
@@WhipCityWrencher true. But you could list shipping from your own zip code to give us a general idea. At least it would provide some more context.
You'll definitely want to order more than just (1) oil filter to justify the cost. Not to mention, making sure that all items come from the same distribution facility.
The Bosch filter is not bad at all for the price. It only needs to have more even spaces between the pleats in its media. And, hopefully, all of their other filters don’t have that much glue showing in its seam. Geez, some filters are getting expensive! Have a great fall weekend. Pete! 🍂🍁🍂
I know they are expensive!
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@@WhipCityWrencherI use both of these filters. The Bosch Premium, I’ll use it when the weather is warmer and the oci’s at around 5-6K miles. The Purolator Boss, I use it with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-20 in the winter when my oci could get as high as 10k miles.
Great comparison of a high-end filter and a lower-end filter.
The Purolator Boss is the better filter with higher end components but is it $13 better than the Bosch? If you are using the vehicle manufacturer's recommended oil change interval and you change the filter every oil change, is it worth the money to have a filter that can go 20,000 miles?
Any adequate person is simply infuriated by these astronomical figures !!! Well, really, after 2020 they perceive us as complete imbeciles!!! On the other hand: can you trust a company that thinks we are a complete idiot??? 🤔
The pure one is better just based on their own specs. Same for Wix/Napa Gold. Cleaner oil is better oil.
@@GT-mn3bx It’s better but the question is: is it $13 better?
@@jeffkortsch8276 I said the pure 1 is better. Not the topic boss filter. The Bosch has better micron rating.
@@GT-mn3bx I thought you meant the Purolator one (as in the Boss in the comparison) but you are referring to the Purolator ONE. Got it.
In the 2005-2015 range, Bosch Premium and Mobil 1 Extended Performance were the same exact filter. I would run the Purolator 1 or the Bosch.....better micron ratings.
I just don't get the "lasts for 20,000 miles" my filters get changed every oil change, cut open and check for trash, how else are you going to catch a problem before it's catastrophic.
I wouldn't buy the cheapest filters but with my service intervals I would not go more than $15 for a filter, last time I bought a dozen black Tokyo Roki filters for my Forester I payed $10 each, my car was made in Japan it gets a Japanese made filter and the exact fluids made by Idemitsu for Subaru.
Been busy haven't kept up with your videos, I like the microscope shots👍
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Whip, I used to be a Bosch oil filter fan, but I’ve seen you cut open a few of them and all are very sloppy on the inside. I no longer use them after seeing this. Great video though!
Thanks!
The one in this video was made in Mexico. I opened one the other day that was made in the USA, and it looked pretty good that video will be shown on Dec. 1st.
i love the pulator boss oil filter
👍🌚 great video 👍🌚.as a consumer,where do you draw the line 4 how much you spend on better build quality?thank you 4 this sir.
Thank you!
Depends on how much you care for your vehicle I guess.
Always liked purolator but in a pinch I’d get the Bosch.
For the money the Bosch is a very well made filter and would work fine for a lot of vehicles. I bough a few of them on sale once for my F150 and there were no
issues with them at all.
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I was disapointed when bosch discontinued the distance plus oil filters
If you want to change filters more often the Bosch is a decent filter for the money...But the Boss is rated for a much longer OCI distance... I think thier Pure One is a really great filter for the price ... But if you want to drive a long time between OCI's, with a Quality filter, The Boss is the way to go!!! Great Video as always!!! THANX
Toyotas are blowing on these extended OCIs. Going over 7 or 7500 on anything is nuts.
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@@GT-mn3bx Right on, GT !!
I'm old school -- 5,000-mile OCIs for me.
@@SlikLizrd Plus Fram website-approved stamped leaf retainer springs.
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I always cut my used filters open. But a general rule is the cellulose or enhanced cellulose is a slightly tighter filter, 20 microns vs 25 microns, so will filter slightly better, but will have to be changed earlier.
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For the price difference I'd just run the Bosch and change the filter a little sooner.
Yes. Anyone going over 7000 is nuts. Toyota engines are blowing on these extended drains.
Another great job Peter
Thanks, Scott!
Just got a couple purolator ones, had to use some mineral oil and cleaning tips to clean out the machined threads, very dirty with filings. Would appreciate if you’d show the cleanliness of the threads on these comparisons
Thanks for sharing
Thanks, any other findings? Interestingly, I never had any Purolator BOSS ( for sure) issues with metal/grooves/visually… But, some should be packed better, & with sealed shur ends ( I.e. the Royal Purples, etc)….!,
I would go with the Boss, but if I wanted to go with an inexpensive filter, the Bosch looks like it would be a winner. I wouldn't want to use the Bosch with longer filter change intervals {Over 5000 miles} or if I drove my vehicle like someone who wants to tear their vehicle up. {Hard and fast. Someone who wants to pretend that they are race car drivers.}
Purolator hands down. You get what you pay for.
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Boss for the win...💪👍👍
NAH. You can't BOSS me around -- I run the Bosch Premiums.
@@SlikLizrd It’s got the Fram website-approved stamped leaf retainer spring so it meets your requirements.
@@SlikLizrd Personal attacks are so boring. Stamped leaf retainer springs - that's where the excitement is.
For about the same cost as the Bosch, I think the Denso filter is much better quality and design; just compare the two and you’ll see.
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The BOSS is the Boss !
The prices between the 2 are all over the place so it pays to shop around ! could just be me but theres something shady bout that bosch filter !
Boss no question!! The Bosch is made cheaper by a lot cheaper labor!!
Another good video Pete!! Thanks for your insight!! Have a Happy Safe Thanksgiving buddy!! 🦃
Thanks, Steven!
Have a Happy Thanksgiving also and a great weekend!
There’s not a big price difference after you pay shipping at rock auto. Last time I went to order a filter it was $6 shipping. I just went to Walmart and got a motorcraft for $6.
Shipping $$ is crazy these days. You have to buy a few filters at a time to offset the shipping cost.
@@WhipCityWrencher oh yea definitely. Sometimes shipping is $14
Can you please open up a Wix 57712 and compare it with a Subaru OEM filter?
I'll try
Boss only thing i run in trucks last 5 years
The p-boss filter is not worth the additional 3x+ cost vs the Bosch with it’s filter media at 99% down to was it 20micron which is good.
At the $6 price point The Bosch filter is fine for 3k mile oil & filter changes,could go as much as 4-5k miles but that’s pushing it with its std fiber filter media.
But If your doing 5k+ mile oil & filter changes & these were the only 2 filters avail I’d go with the p-boss filter.
That’s due to the p-boss synthetic filter media thats also backed by some fort of mesh material too making it more higher mile resilient/youth.
Thank you for your time too much hard work just buy Bosch change every 3 to 5000 miles cheap engine expensive oil filter very cheap if you keep your car for many years like I do if you keep it for 2😢3 years nobody bothers they just give it in and get a new one
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I ran 4 oil changes without changing the Purolator 20k filter, each time using full synthetic oil at 5k mile intervals for change. Did you do a test to see how the oil filter look like after 20k miles? I was told even if it's rated 20k miles you should change every 5k miles...so now I'm curious.
5K is a good oil change interval for most.
Sure, the Boss filter will last that 20,000 miles in a clean engine, but in an engine that runs dirty with soot/carbon, it may get clogged up and run in bypass most of the time. 20K is just marketing hype. You can do your oil changes the way that you are doing them, but you'll be mixing used oil that's still in the oil filter with new oil every time you change your oil.17,000 miles is the longest OCI-used oil filter that I opened, here's a link, Thanks! czcams.com/video/ZEigd1Hu8s0/video.html
The Bosch looks like the threads have burrs that are falling off and could get in the engine. I don’t like seeing metal burrs. Anyone else notice that?
Mid tier Bosch vs Top tier Purolator Boss....The workmanship on the Boss doesn't look so hot on the sloppy glue seam and uneven pleats. Although it shouldn't be on issue though I just like the neater pleats on the Boss. Plus the Boss is a full synthetic media.
Shipping from Rock Auto is a part of their profit and a game to make it appear a better price. I bet your shipping happened to make the 3323 close to the price it sells everywhere else, my guess is $9-$10.
The only way to buy oil filters from RA is in lots of ~6, or as add on to another large order. Single purchases no bargain with shipped price.
Yep, what faxmen09 said.
Rock Auto it only makes sense when you buy a bunch of stuff.. I just added some things I needed and then I put an oil filter at the end and they are not charging any extra shipping when I add in the oil filter..
Wow!!! Well, first of all, you're comparing incomparable things: The *Bosch 3323* filter uses _Synthetic Blend media_ (which is actually not very different from ordinary cellulose paper in terms of filtration, but only provides better tensile strength and better resists soaking from water.) Therefore, it is correct to compare it with the filter *Purolator One PL14610* ( _Synthetic Blend media_ )
Secondly, you give incomparable information on the screen at a price! On Amazon the delivery of this filter is free, on RockAuto it is a minimum of $5.99!!! On *Amazon as of Nov/18/2022* , the Purolator One PL14610 filter was $9.46 + state tax (Calculate for my Florida max possible rate in some places 7.5% + shipping.
So: Purolator One PL14610 Amazon price $9.46x1.075+0=$10.17
BOSH 3323 with RockAuto price $3.42x1.075 +$5.99=$9.67
As you can see: at RockAuto - cheaper by 50 cents!!!😅
Like I say in the video, (when I remember to) you may be able to get them cheaper somewhere else.😊
Is Amazon shipping free for anyone for that filter?
@@WhipCityWrencher I'm just for the fact: - compare the filter with a filter element made of synthetic fabric, then on the other hand, the filter should also be with a filter element made of synthetic fabric too.
And, as my investigation showed, there are no miracles: similar filters have approximately the same cost.
p.s More: At *Amazon* ( _official Purolator receller_ ) Purolator *PBL14610* (filter what you review here) - *$13,99* +state tax+0
@@Andrew__Smith Most if not all the filters I open now are from viewer requests, which I buy where ever it's more convenient for me, and also viewers send me oil filters which I will happily compare to whatever oil filter they send me as long as they are for the same applications.
@@WhipCityWrencher ok.
Not a fan of the Bosch….that glued seam….
in the past, the bosch was supposed to be good. . I have a puro in my car now
between the 3300 and the 3323 its not much of a difference
Would be worried about a blob of that glue in the Bosch coming loose and getting into the oil.
The Purolator us pricey. I just bought a Mobil One for my truck at Walmart for $9.00
Just an fyi, M1 is now made by Purolator US. If you're getting them for much less than a P1, you're doing real well.
20k miles, yeah right…
Purolator is just ripping people off with the fact its a BOSS oil filter! Greed will get them!
Not liking the Bosch media pleats all funky
That Bosch "Premium" is like a bottom level Rock Auto $1.50 filter but with a silicone adbv..
I wouldn't call it rock bottom. It's still a good filter.
I think the ones made here are better made. JMHO
@@faxmen09 I hear you but I stand by what I stated.. Go inspect the Premium Guard or Ecogard brand filter.. They are clearly above the us stuff with regard to consistency of QA and both these brands list efficiency.. With RA you don't pay any extra shipping for an OF if you are buying a bunch of stuff.
@@memopadilla5931 So bad it should have been thrown away? No. Definitely not jobber tier as you implied. EG does not publish an ISO 4548-12 efficiency spec. I'll pass. At this point best just say agree to disagree with your conclusions.
@@faxmen09 oh yeah this one was horrible qa.. they should not of let it leave the factory IMO. and PG and EG do post that on their websites..
Bosh made by champion
I'm not sure about that it could be Purolator.
Bosh cost more cheap because it’s made in Mexico!
Bosch is junk compared to the Boss. Very disappointing. I remember back when the domestic Bosch filters used to be nearly identical to their Purolator counterparts. Nothing about this Bosch filter looks like a Purolator. I guess that's down to M+H's production decisions.
Can’t defend the Bosch media construction here, sad. But honestly, we have to stop kidding ourselves. In this day and age you DO NOT get what you pay for! Marketing gimmicks and BS rule - does the daily driver need a thicker can or double-layer baseplate? IMHO, absolutely not. However, we’re human and think ‘well, this one seems more robust, and it’s much more expensive, so it’s gotta be better’. We are over-rationalizing and the marketing pukes are laughing all the way to da bank. Rant over…
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