Wix XP Oil Filter Cut Open 51348XP vs. Napa Platinum Oil Filter Cut Open 41348, Oil Filter Review
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Wix changed their oil filters. Take a Look for yourself.
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I just looked at the numbers and figured it out and the Napa was 1.73" x 52"=89.96 square inches and the Wix XP was 2.12"x 46"=97.52 square inches.
Also left a part of my response meaning the more holes would cause the oil to flow through more paper element
@WhipCityWrencher -- 8:07 -- where you are pressing on the WIX XP filter -- is that cicular by-pass piece that you are pushing in made of some sort of plastic or is it steel?
@@lightningsmokerXx Plastic
Looks like you DID fix the video.
@@kimmillard9445 Yep, I learned how to put text in the video even after it had been uploaded.
The differences between the two become more pronounced when running longer OCIs. Changing your oil more frequently (sooner) is the most important factor for the long-term life of your 🚗 engine. 😊
No, it's the most important factor because you throw your money at the oil companies.
300k on a ford escape 2.0. I change my oil twice a year. I don’t go by mileage. Spring and fall.
@@thatmechanicguy1993 Because you're a jerk.
Wix makes napa filters. I used to go to the trade shows and the napa rep would turn his name tag over and it would show he was the wix's rep also. I ran wix on my fleet of 250 for 40+ years. Still using today.
Yep,
You are correct, that's one reason why I compared these two oil filters.
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Affinia Group makes WIX and NAPA filters and a host of other private labels as well like O'Reilly's Micro-Gard line. Both they and Purolator became part of MANN+Hummel in 2016. They all differ because of the design specs of the buyer. Purolator makes Motorcraft filters, but to Ford Engineering Department's specs. MANN+Hummel Tech Desk told me they would continue to operate the companies (Affinia (WIX), Purolator, and MANN+Hummel Filtration) as three separate and distinct units.
@@relectric69 Not any more what? Are MANN not operating them as 3 separate operations any longer? Is Affinia Group not making WIX filters anymore?
Mann- Hummel no longer makes Napa gold
Mann is now Chinese too
I'm often amazed by Napa's products. I purchased a new radiator for my one-ton diesel a few years ago. It was made in Jordan, but the quality was superb. I'd never seen anything made in Jordan before.
Hi Jim,
I never have either, I think the last one I bought was made in Canada, also made well.
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Oil Filter Friday,
Watch a New Automotive oil filter inspection video every Friday on this CZcams channel.
You should measure the number of square inches of media. The fact that one media is longer than the other is not the full picture of how much surface area there is to remove contaminants from the oil. With these two filters with identical media its almost worthless to only check the over length.
Your 100% right,
Sometimes it's an easy call, but this one, was close, the next time I make a comparison video with similar widths and lengths I'll try to remember to post the square inch of each filter. Because that you mentioned it, I just looked at the numbers and figured it out and the Napa was 1.73" x 52"=89.96 square inches and the Wix XP was 2.12"x 46"=97.52 square inches. Thanks, I can't fix the video but I'll pin this on Top so everyone will see it. Thanks Again.👍🙏😊
@@WhipCityWrencher awesome great educating videos make people self awareness for their money going on prolonged life of there vehicles 👏🙌👍
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Calculate the square inches. Wix is 1/4 inch wider than the Napa which is longer. Same amount of area?
And comparing media width means nothing unless all the filters are listed for the same application.
In my youth I used to be a jobber/counter guy @ the local NAPA parts store. They did/do tend to sell better parts than most every other auto parts shop, even today.
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Agreed,especially electric parts like starters n alternators.
Wix makes NAPA filters with specific changes that NAPA request. The inner core has more a directional flow with multiple diagonal channels helping create a spinning effect increasing the oil flow thru the media. The spring is to guarantee the exact bypass pressure even under extreme oil temperatures. The anti-drain feature insures oil flow thru the guides an added feature that NAPA request. Yes, I have used NAPA oil filters for 30 plus years and cut open many a filter just to see what was in my oil on all the cars I've owned. I have never had an engine failure yet. I have purchased cars that used other brand filters and put NAPA filters on them and when I cut them open after the next oil change I could not believe what the NAPA filter had collected. Sold me on NAPA filters right then.
Yes, their filters are pretty good except for the Proselct, I'd stay away from that one.
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Thanks, any other findings.? About same for me,NAPA GOLDS, ETC. INTERESTINGLY, I SWITCHED TO OEM AIR FILTERS six++ years ago from K& N AIR ( never any issues , three vehicles: RECENTLY moved TO high dust area)::: pickedmupmNAPA **GOLD AIR 2015 A 4 CYL,& would *not fit without major finesse: returned to Napa)…… l stay GOLD NAPA, oil, lBOSS PUROLATOR
I always use napa golds
Mann and Hummel owns Wix and napa oil filters are manufactured in the South Carolina wix plant.
How do you know what NAPA specs for their filter manufacturers?
I've used multiple other filters Never NAPA and never had an engine failure either. That really isn't a valid factor in filters.
I used to buy wix. But I've purchased a 2010 Honda civic, and live in a small town with a NAPA strore a block away , so a NAPA premium is what the mechanic down the street uses. So when I do my own oil changes, I just go down to NAPA, and purchased what he installed. Go in, have a relaxing, interesting conversation with folks who know you. I've watched this before. Good tech video.
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I have been using the Napa 41348 for years in my Toyota Tacoma and get them on sale every year for $7.50-$8 on sale. Will continue to use them with confidence. Awesome review thank you!
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Yep, that Platinum is a pretty good oil filter. Hope they stay the way they are.
Based on the changes I see no reason to panic, change buying habits.
When do they usually go on sale?
Full area of the holes is what matters. Full area of the filter is what matters. As for the spring, if the leaf spring is placing greater final pressure, that’s what matters. And of course cost matters. Thanks for the video. I know, it’s old. And other commenters probably said the same things. But just in case they didn’t…. :-)
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Thanks! I am really digging your filter comparisons. My favorite brand is Wix....so, very interested in those comparisons. Keep up the great work.
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Yes I have always loved Napa gold filters. Much better then the competition.
Both filters will do a good job of filtering oil.
Yeah but come on: it it were that simple most guys watching this would need to pay attention to their kids or exercise or something…
You can exhale if you go 500 miles over your drain interval. I buy nothing but NAPA Platinum filters.
@@stanleynowak9325- Our shop used NAPA Silvers and Purolator Techs for years with no comebacks. Use good oil and change it by the owner's manual and everything will be fine. Sometimes you have to think months not miles, especially in our area's climate.
I've never seen 2 filters that are more opposite well looking the same. Ya il take the Napa. 👍
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Right out of the gate, you had napa as the winner. They are both excellent products. If I were to not be able to get one, I would choose the other. They are both hands down better than the competition.
Yep, Both are good oil filters, Wix used to have a base-end bypass valve which I think is a better setup. This is an older video, I Now put in the Filters square inches. So I probably would have gone either way with these. Read the pinned comment.
Wix makes NAPA's filters. They will make them to a company's desired specs.
Man I thought they were the same. Wow. Thanks for sharing this information and being honest.
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Excellent video! Very informative. After seeing these latest filters, I am now going for the Nappa Platinum @$10 a piece for my 2 hondas
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The Honda filters are like $6 at dealer. It’s a great filter, I used them for years.
Thanks for the look.
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Nice informative video!
The platinum is what I’ve been using for years, I don’t use cheap oil filters!
I even go a step further by using the biggest oil filter that fits the application! More bounce to the ounce baby!!!
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Can't go wrong with the platinum. Thanks for the feedback.👍🙏😊
So you like wasting your money. You know the old saying a fool and his money soon part. LOL Any oil filter will due just fine at regular change cycles. There is no rocket science to this. Just a lot of marketing hype and confusion.
@@jamesvw769 I use Wix XP filters and Mobil full synthetic at 10k mile oil changes. The oil comes out barely dirty on my fleet trucks that have been on synthetic for a while.
More square inches of filter media is better👍👍👍
I have a 1992 Toyota Ecab 4x4. 525k and the engine is about 80% according to my good friend who has been a mechanic for almost 40 years. I changed the oil regularly and NEVER used a cheap oil filter.
Yea i was surprised about the Wix XP not having the wire-backed media as descripted on the box. Well the proof is in the pudding thank u for sharing the video it's very informative 👌
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Thanks for the videos. It looked to me like the Wix had 7 bigger holes on the inlet than the 8 on the NAPA. I wouldn't mind seeing measurements on the inlet holes on future reviews. I'll still stick with my trusty Purolator Boss. Thanks again
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I mention the inlet holes in the videos but in all actually, they equal or exceed the outlet hole.
Both are great filters and you can’t go wrong with either one. However, by the time you pay for shipping from rock auto for the WIX, you can get the Napa for about the same price. I have been using the wix for years but will probably switch to Napa just for the convenience and I usually get my oil from Napa anyway.
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Or you can call around Autostores n find out who carries WIX..I have here in Riverside County..I preferred WIX..
Buy in BULK online ...not like your going to just up and stop needing them. Doesn't matter what filter you really use as long as you stick to 3k changes for 4-6cyl and up to 5k v8 servicing. Dont care what oil you use or filters stick with 3k/5k oil changes and you will have no problems getting 2-300k or much more.Have used delco/wix/motocraft/ST that end up with 200-300k without major issues on only conventional oil. Not a synthetic oil user other then burning it as black diesel fuel so I stick with conventional oils to lubricate.
XP is the best
O'Reilly's carries Wix filters
From data I have gathered lately, I think both are a winner. I have just switched from FRAM to WIX, the metal end plates is what sold me over FRAM, which had hard cardboard on the ends. Chevy V8 filters don't have a bypass in the filter, just that metal stand you saw. This once ignored filter stuff is getting interesting.
Purolator is also nice
Very helpful video, thanks!
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Would you like a used NAPA platinum 41348 to open and inspect? Took one off yesterday. It has a coil spring and holes in the center tube. But I have two more which I have not yet used and they have louvres, not holes. All purchased within the past 15 months.
My dad was a NAPA jobber for 40 years. I’m glad I learned to not obsess over the number of holes in oil filter bases. This is classic YT mentality, clinging to meaningless differences to support video production and belong to a group. Either filter is fine. I’ve used both NAPA and Wix since the 60s, worn out many vehicles long before their engines developed any oil related issues.
A comparison of two filters does not compare the companies’ entire production, nor does it account for running production changes. We’ve all seen the disclaimers for years: “XX company reserves the right to change product specifications at any time....” Go buy two more and perhaps they’ll be different. Speaking of that, the last two x1358 and x7356 filters I bought no longer fit my filter wrench. So what. They changed them.
A video will be worth our time when it exposes a truly inferior product.
Speaking of those 40 years long ago, my dad once brought home a manufacturer’s cutaway display filter, probably from the 1950s. It contained a roll of cotton gauze bandage, like cheesecloth, about an inch thick. Makes an argument about pleats seem pretty silly.
I know you want to put CZcams down and CZcamsrs, but CZcams provides a great service to everyone out there. CZcams provides a means to put out videos so people can be entertained and also learn from them. For example, If you get a check engine light and the code reads po121 and you've never changed a TPS, look it up on CZcams and there's probably a video on it, and so on. I also occasionally do repair videos.
Now as far as oil filters go, if there wasn't CZcams then how would you ever know what was in all the different oil filters out there. At least you make a more informed decision on what kind of oil filter you want to put on your engine.
And if you think that all oil filters are the same, then you should be watching more CZcams videos. Just like you stated about the cotton gauze filter, they are constantly changing.
Take care.
@@WhipCityWrencher agreed. I love these videos for entertainment and informational purposes.
Always good comparisons. For me, I use Wix standard filters with a quality synth oil, changed at 3-4k miles. Cheap insurance over hundreds of thousands of miles. No additives or high mileage oil needed.
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I use Wix for everything, I currently have over 200k on my 95' Lexus SC300. No oil usage or smoke, quiet valvetrain too. Most of the high performance cars I've seen, seem to run Wix too. They can handle high oil pressures better than Fram etc.
total waste of money. Do oil analysis. Definitely will show you are wasting money
@@02hreblue30 yes a waste. Not cheap insurance to throw away still great oil. Maybe at 7,500 it’s cheap insurance to throw away full synthetic oil. At 3,500 miles it’s expensive insurance.
@@new2000car Once you replace a few Nissan 5.6l short blocks, you won't even trust Amsoil to go the distance anymore. Ask me how I know.
Hey friend great sharing 👍
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Wix recently changed manufacturers. Noticed the same difference between two identical PN Wix XP filters, except one from 2020, the other from 2021. The 2020 is just like the Napa in your video; the 2021 is just like the Wix XP in your video. Called Wix questioning change and they confirmed manufacturer change. Presume Napa will change as well. Agree, prefer the old vs. the new. Thanks for the cut-up comparison.
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I hope Napa Platinums dont change.
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Good bye Wix (MH).
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I'd have to agree with you on this.
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Thank you for the comparison. Oil flow is most important and it looks like the Napa would allow more flow.
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I love your content absolutely awesome.
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I’ve used both on my 2008 jeep JKU, and the reason I like the Napa better is because it let’s less oil drain out of the top of the engine when it’s off, so when I start it, with the NAPA filter I get less initial valve tap then I do with the Wix.
I've never experienced it myself, but I've heard of people changing filter brands and their engines were quieter on startup. Great!
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@@WhipCityWrencher I've had the start up noise on my Ford Ranger when I used a Bosch filter and a Mobil One filter. Also with a cheap one from Auto zone. The noise is from the oil draining through the anti drain back valve (in other words the valve leaked). It empties the filter (slowly, like a couple of hours), so when starting the engine bearings have not oil pressure until the filter fills up again. Like putting on an empty filter during an oil change. You will hear the engine rattle until oil pressure hits the bearings--not good! If you experience this, change to another filter ASAP.
@@tarquineous I kinda goofed on my previous comment, Ive had engine start-up noise in the past with oil filters also just never with the Wix filter is what I meant to say.
I agree if it makes noise switch brands.
3 years ago I had a NAPA Gold for my Jeep TJ 4.0 which had a failure of the drain back valve and its failure would drain all the oil from the engine back into the oil sump through the oil pump in about 3 days with resultant hydraulic lifter clatter. It is not good to have a dry start every time you start your engine as it is hard on bearings and camshaft. NAPA and Wix sent representatives to my house. I filled the oil filter with oil, put my thumb over the discharge hole, turned the filter on its side, and we watched oil drain out past the rubber valve. The Wix filter guy was amazed to see this. I gave him the filter after draining the oil and never heard back from Wix or NAPA. I am not a fan of horizontal oil filters like my '03 Jeep 4.0 or downward facing filters like my Toyota Tacoma 4.0 V-6 with its oil filter on top of the engine (really messy to change filters). The best design is the early Chevy small blocks that were under the engine block and you could completely fill them before installation.
ArnCital; Agree! To avoid the 'morning start rattle,' on my Crown Vic' (w/horizontal filter), I'm having to 'floor' the pedal (closes off the injectors) when turning engine over for a few seconds, to build-up oil pressure prior to starting.
Wix makes/or provides all the NAPA filters
Yep, now owned by Mann and Hummel
That would be correct
Yes, I worked there for 13 years back when it was Wix/Dana. They had 4 plants in Gastonia NC. The Ozark plant is closed now.
Both will do a good job filtering oil , The main takeaway.. will be the NAPA branded filter probably has the better longevity (ie Higher mileage ) between oil changes for the lazy non-car people out there.. Me? I will continue to change my oil every 5000 miles regardless of which filter I use.
For 5K miles, both will work fine, thanks for your feedback👍🙏😊
@@WhipCityWrencher David’s not to bright, but he will spend the extra money to get you to believe he is.
The Wix looks like it flows a lot better
I use Napa Gold and Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, at 5K intervals. Inspection of upper valve train area on ‘17 2.5L Camry revealed zero varnish buildup after 88K mikes. Oil always has a clear, transparent appearance. This a great combination and highly recommended.
Yes, that's A Great combination for sure!
Pennzoil is my favorite oil.
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@@WhipCityWrencher Pennzoil Platinum is good, but for just a little bit more, Ultra Platinum offers a superior additive package. Cold flow performance is good as Mobil 1, also.
@@ChicagoRob2 I agree, I have used both. I have to check it out, but I don't think my local Walmart has the Ultra in-store, have to order online.
@@WhipCityWrencher My Walmart didn’t, either. I ordered mine from Amazon.
Same combo I use on my outlander sport 217,000 miles no issues yet
Very informative, thanks!
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Just commented on one of your other videos that I use Wix. Thanks to this one, might just go with the Napa brand.
Thank you for this comparison Sir.
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A couple of years after M&H bought Wix, I started getting filters that would drain back overnight, causing noticeable lifter rattle on startup and delaying oil pressure by 4-5 seconds. The same issues I used to have (surprise surprise…) with Mann filters years ago. It’s a shame, but Wix is off my “usable” list. But Purolator is now back on ( especially the ‘Boss’ synthetic) since they changed their filter media assembly method after all the rips people weee finding in pleats near the seam a number of years ago.
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I like the Boss filter also, it's very well-made. I have used it in my vehicle. czcams.com/video/WqXxIasAYMc/video.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
Did my oil change today, bought wix xp since thats what i have been useing for years. I notice the difference on the top holes on both filters. Decided to do some research if they changed their way of making the filter on the interior components.Wix got cheap, Need to find a new filter
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Been using Wix XP on synthetic blend oil for years. I have had no issues. I am rebuilding my Surburban 5.7. I have been measuring wear. The wear has been minimal and sludge is also minimal. Oil pressure is great on the wix. I won't be switching.
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My take is the wix centeris larger with smaller holes with baffles. In the event of contaminants, you would think more holes wouldn't plug as easy and stabilize the return pulses more of a stable flow rather than heavy pulses the larger less holes would produce, plus the wix has baffles, probably to direct and stabilize oil flow. Always have used wix but like someone mentioned they're made in China, I'll probably go to fleetgard or someone like that.
Could be a difference of production runs and design changes at manufacturer. An analysis of their filtering capabilities would be useful. In any event, thanks for the video!!
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It would be a good test possibility with a oil pressure gauge and test pressure passing through individual oil filters.
Yeah, then he'd have to heat the oil to 200°f operating temp, it would be a pain, but worth it.
A few years ago some people noticed that some used oil filters had tears or splits in the media/filter paper. Probably when large amounts of flow of cold oil attempt to flow through the media high pressure and force develop,also flexing with changes in pressure due to changing engine speed and shut down. Would get worse as dirt coats the media with continued use.
I think an attempt was made due to the reports of the tear problems to make the strength of the media greater by using the mesh interior.
I believe most of the tearing occurred when people ran a long mileage interval before changing the oil or filter and maybe cold oil and thick oil such as 20w-50 or SAE 30 were involved. I had a filter of one of the brands claimed to have a tear problem that I had used for a year with 5w-30 synthetic,less than 3,000 miles on it,I could not find any tears in the media when I cut the filter open,nor was there more than a minimal amount of what looked like varnish.
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Thank you for this video. My wife's car takes these filters and I have been using the WIX XP on it sense we bought it. I might still go with WIX XP, but I am going to do some more research to see if I can find what other filters meant for that car are like.
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Please see my post before changing filters.
There is a small place selling Napa in Guatemala, I will check the Napa filter. But very much the same. I had no problems with Wix filters for 15 years
Wix was bought out by Mann and Hummel, they just recently started to change their oil filters, perhaps not all of them yet.
Yup, measure square inch of material, not length. Or width. Alone they mean nothing.
WIX: 97.06 square inches (46" long x 2.11" tall); NAPA: 91.52 square inches (52" long x 1.76" tall)
Good demo. It seems the problem with all filter comparisons is one can never know if/when a vendor will decide to cheap out and change the design. Unless you cut your filter open, then put it back together before installation. Impractical. For now it’s NAPA. I’ve used K&N for several years, thinking their reputation should carry weight. Probably not.
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Why is it that whenever a design change in an oil filter occurs, we get so many people saying that it's because "they cheaped out !" or "we're being cheated" or some such nonsense.
Design change is inevitable -- it's called progress.
@@SlikLizrd When a design change results in a product which is clearly inferior to the pre-change version, you have to suspect the manufacturer is cutting corners. The oil filters in this review, when cut open clearly show some design changes which were not aimed at improving the product. Every business on the planet is constantly making every effort to contain costs of producing goods and services. We see it in many products, many industries. One ready example: a cereal box at the grocer which is a large size, but the net weight of the product inside the box has been reduced by a few ounces. You may not want to call that cheating but I believe there is an element of deception.
@@SlikLizrd Progress is when you make something better, not worse just to satisfy stockholders who only look at profits. In my opinion that is what is going on all around us. Just open up your eyes. Planned Obsolescence.
@@WhipCityWrencher Progress is made by moving FORWARD, just as WIX has done by getting rid of the Coil Spring and that damned Wire Mesh Screen.
Your OPINION that the WIX was made "worse just to satisfy stockholders who only look at profits" is not realistic.
As an actual stockholder, I can tell you that production methods and design changes are NOT discussed (or even consided) at the annual stockholder meetings.
AND, as someone whose career has been in manufacturing/production for several decades (now retired ), I can tell you with absolute certainty that nobody calls up the stockholders to ask if a design change is approved. No one. Ever.
Napa has good stuff, My Dad always swore by Napa and after years of using their products I can see why, seem to have higher standards, even stuff made overseas with their name on it seems to be a better quality.
I'm thinking that the XP has a leaf spring because of the taller filter media. If they used a (taller) coil spring in it, like in the NAPA, they'd also have to make the can taller. That would probably prevent it from fitting certain applications where space is limited. Either way, I always use NAPA or Wix filters, depending on which one is on sale at the time.
it is not a leaf spring but a coil spring
He pulled a leaf spring from the WIX can.
@@USMCghost So what? A clear understanding of the purpose OF the "spring" and of Pascal's law of hydraulics prove that either design is more than good enough to perform the function for why they're present in the first place!
Very cool, sir! I loved it, very analytical I think that you could add perhaps a flow check? But again very comprehensive and I thank you because I am going to swap to Napa! I love the overall physical design, and the thinking that went into the NAPA oil filter..😊
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Wow. Wix-XP fan here. Never thought of NAPA. Must admit, NAPA for the win in this comparison.
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I agree Pete, The Napa Platinum is the winner on this one!
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you need to check the diameter of the holes as well, there may be 1 fewer on the Wix but the Napa are smaller so the volume of oil that passes is probably the same, your big difference is that spring. still pretty much the same filter, you can pick up the wix at O'Rielly auto as well and it is priced about the same as the NAPA. I order my Wix filters from RockAuto and buy multiples to reduce shipping cost on each. Hopefully Rock figures out the shipping issue and better controls that cost, splitting shipments across warehouses (and it will change when you try to choose parts to reduce shipments) drives me crazy!
Per a WIX tech rep, the XP is not their “best” filter. It is a purpose built filter just like their racing filters and their XD diesel engine filters. The XP is intended for longer service intervals and better compatibility with synthetic oils. The standard filter is still WIX’s best automotive filter for the actual job of filtering oil. Also, filters with a bypass in the media cartridge don’t require a spring. That spring is what WIX uses to allow standard filters to bypass that don’t have an integral media bypass. Both of these are very good filters as are some other house brands that WIX/Mann/Hummel make for some other retailers.
Which ones are the white filters? I think they have mgl on some of them
Great video. I’d take the Napa premium
Yeah, Me Too!
Same here
This is really interesting. Thought they were identical.
Thank you, I stay with NAPA..
BEST! Best cut open comparison I have run into! Great Job and your explanations were spot on for the comparison details! It has been 2 years do you think the NAPA is still the best choice ?
Yes, I think it's still a very good filter. Lately, though I've been using the Purolator Boss oil filters. I think they have a better micron rating.
May I suggest doing a flow comparison to see which is better ?
I have never seen it done before ?
Since oil and filter changes in your vehicle is the cheapest insurance you can buy I never scrimp on it. I do my own changes at 4-5K and use the best oil and filter I can find. Walmart usually has the best price on oil but the WIX filter I use comes from Amazon.
I like the wix. They have a nice washing machine style centrifugal force to run oil all the way up, and certain it all gets filtered, instead of just pouring in the holes. Both seem very good 👍. I'll go with Wix for the corvette
That’s not how it works, the oil goes into the little holes to the outside of the filter then into the middle and up
@@tylerwalk7699 yeah, I mean up. It's still going to have a vacuum pull ♻️
Good comparison. I use WIX in my Caravan and Motorcraft in the Mustang.
Thank You!👍
Wix is now owned by Mann+Hummel who also owns Purolator. The Wix XP looks like a repackaged Purolator BOSS filter - including the stamped spring and center tube design. The NAPA Platinum is also made by WIX (used to be same as XP), but still retains the coil spring and spiral center tube. What you may be looking at is an older NAPA filter from inventory (still using the old XP design). I'm hoping the commonality of design is not Mann+Hummel migrating Wix filters to essentially be Purolators for cost reasons. That would be very disappointing as I'd now have to start looing at Baldwin or Fleetgard...
I'm waiting a while to make sure I get some new inventory and do some more comparisons.
On the nose. The new xp It is a repackaged purolator boss.
@@Life2race ,
That's somewhat sad. All these conglomerates gobbling up competitors.
As the movie said: "All restaurants are now Taco Bell's."
If the competition is the better product buy them.
I'll go with napa platinum.👍Wix xp has little holes from the inside.NP has bigger holes for more oil flow.👍
But there are a lot more of them. Would be interesting to know the area of the flow openings and compare.
In this case I like the Napa Platinum
Thanks for sharing!
Definitely like the napa better. A little suprised they aren't the same. Always thought they were. Good thing is I bought 5 napa platinum filters on that sale you told us about. Glad I did. Thanks for the review 👍👍👍
You're Welcome!
It looks like Mann and Hummel are changing the Wix XP oil filters.
@@WhipCityWrencher Check back on a Plat. in 6 months, brand new stock, bet money same as XP in video.
@@faxmen09 I will, but I hope they don't change the Platinums.
I was going to get Napa platinum on sale but since I don't know what all the changes are I went and bought a Purolator Boss again.
@Tee Mack ThankYou!
Glad you liked the video.😊
Neither one was rusty inside unlike the orange filters. Either of these will work good for ya.
Orange crap cans now Made in Pakistan
Well done Thank You
Thank you too!👍
Most surprised both filters aren't identical. Explanation, Wix (M&H) has been making some changes in construction recently. The Platinum shown is the older Wix XP construction, spacer, coil compression spring & adbv prove. The XP being very new stock shows the changes especially leaf spring, 'possibly' looks to be Purolator (also M&H) made. Also media backing on BOTH as noted, now very similar to Boss. XP/Plat used to have black mesh. Many Wix purists will get upset at changes, but most filters use a flat spring and many use louvers, both work well. Check the Napa Plat. in a few months, new stock, bet is it will be identical to XP in video. Changes in XP likely cost saving directed by Mann. Wonder if XP still made in Gastonia, NC or Puro plant Fayetteville NC. Thanks for vid.
Thanks…. Oddly interesting….. actually GOLD NAPA MY go to……..
Your probably right, they'll make them both the same, I hope not, I'd rather have a choice.
@@WhipCityWrencher I hear you, but with the exception of name on label, Wix labeled and Napa Gold, newish XP and Platinum always the same. With M&H calling the shots anything possible but I'd be very surprised if Platinum stays same as video.
@@opera93 "actually GOLD NAPA MY go to…….." Mine too. Can get them on special @ local Napa couple times a year. As long as the Napa Gold doesn't go the Puro media tear route, I'm not put off with the changes in construction.
I recently ordered a case of Wix 57055 filters, one was the style like the Platinum in this video while all others were the Purolated version like the XP in the video. I don't like the changes.
One thing is for sure, Fram can not hold a candle to either Wix or Napa.
I disagree, I think the Fram Titanium could do just as good as these two.
Great content
Thanks!
I'd buy the NAPA for the way bigger holes in the center column, better flow as the oil ages and thickens up.
Another great video, an idea for next project if you want to open the k & n black oil filter PSxxxx changed there whole design
Thank You!
I opened a K&N PS1002 back in April. Is that the one your talking about?
I like the large holes on the inside vs those smaller louvers. It seems like it would be more restrictive
Good job! I was really impressed how you handled the suggestion about filter area. That lets us know you want to learn and continue to improve your videos giving us valuable information to help make informed decisions.
Thank You! I Appreciate It👍🙏😊
I was using NAPA gold filters, but they kept leaking down, so I went back to Motorcraft.
Thank you that's very interesting but I like the Napa with the holes in more paper so a bigger fold so more oil will get in thanks that's my opinion
Hi Daniel,
Thanks for your feedback.👍
Had a long discussion with a fella at Baldwin about OEM's and filters and warranty, was confirmed by another at Fleetguard. At one time Cat filters were beng made on the same lines as the Baldwin version, just the pant was different. Afew years later, Cat and Donaldson went halfers on a wet filter plant. Then we got a different part nbr and a different filter, backwards compaible. Difference was the filter media, same stuff happened with Fleetguard, media updates. They were very different internally, and a lot heavier. Magnusoo-Moss act makes it illegal is the US to require customers to buy OEM filters for warranty, if they insist, then they have to supply them for free, not valid in Canada.. Had a couple of those claims, it is a long arduous process, best avoided if possible. For the number of times you actually change filters and how uch you spend over the life of the vehicle on them, you'll curse yourself,IF you ever have to go thru one of those progressive damage claims with off brand filters. And filter falures happen, even wth the OEM filter, but, it eliminates one huge hurdle. OEM says filter failure, the game is on, then you have to prove what failed, filter mfgrs will usually pay, but, it will be a long time before you see it paid out.
Went to Napa today to get a Platinum filter. None in stock and was told they're doing away with that line (cheapin out like everyone else). I ordered the only 2 left in the area, to pick up when they get to the store.
I didn't know that.
Thanks for Sharing.👍
When the widths are different like these it would be good if you would multiply the length in inches by the width in inches to get square inches of media. We could compare square inches of material for each filter!
I did start doing that after this video, Please read the pinned comment.
This guy is obviously an advisor to the ASMT.
ASMT ❓
Spring is for the bypass valve in the bottom. Need the bigger 0- ring ....The Wix filters years ago also had COTTON around the filter inside...along with the paper .... The cotton helped filter out the water, acids in the oil. Now all the oil filters are so close to each other in the micron media ( paper)....It may pay to change your oil once, the filter twice ...
It would be an interesting data set to see the difference in area of the holes in the base base plates and in the cores, this will give you an idea on flow rates.
Also the more pleats=more wasted surface area at the tips, couple this with having smaller pleats and you will drastically reduce the flow rate through the filter media.
Whatever the "flow rate", neither filter can flow more than the inner area of the engine block mounting stud. I'll bet money both filters total hole inlet area at least equal to, more likely more than, inner area engine block mounting stud.
The inlet holes on the WIX are slightly larger, so the flow rate is likely equal.
Yes I agree. Square inches of filter media and the actual media itself are the most important structures of an oil filter. This and and flow rate which correlate to larger and more holes in a heavier base plate. I doubt the bypass ever comes into play during normal driving
Beliving the area behind the end flanges doesn't participate in filtration "is wasted" is wrong. The part of a paper towel that doesn't directly contact a water spot can absorb water because capillary action/surface tension moves the liquid along the surface of the fibers The same thing happens with oil in a filter. The oil that travels to the end cap and back around the flange to exit travels a longer path that makes it more likely to be cleaned.
I been using Hastings since the Napa store closed. Napa Gold filters were always a great filter. I buy 5-30syn Castrol at Wal-Mart or Home Depot. 5qt jug $23 four months ago. The price might've gone up. FRAM is the worst until Pronto filters beat FRAM in the worst filters category.
Thanks for your feedback!
Looks like the NAPA filter is the old style oil filter and the Wix is the revised filter. I've also noticed that the NAPA pro select line will have Mann Humel on it but look exactly like a Purolator with the oval intake holes
Yep, you are 100% right. The Wix has Mann-Hummel on the box too.
The WIX XP and the microguard sold at O'Reilly look identical I have never done this with them. I buy hundreds of WIX filters every year
The Wix Xp, Microgard, and the Microgard Select are 3 different-looking filters. Check out these videos czcams.com/video/tMo3P6y_3Xg/video.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher czcams.com/video/MDg7sPH6Uv4/video.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
I'll take the Napa since I already have 2 lol, & Purolator boss vs Napa Plat might be a good showdown.
Well, you got 2 good filters😊,
I'll wait a couple months and do the Platinum, Boss comparison. We'll see if they change the Napa Platinum by then.
Thanks for the feedback👍🙏😊
@@WhipCityWrencher No problem enjoy your vids, & I do have both lol & might just flip a quarter since I have to change soon but might go with Napa cuz I think it has more intake holes & the spring.
@@toddevans4667 👍
I have a Chevy Express 3500. Use only synthetic oil. Factory recommendation is an oil change every 10k miles. But I have the filter changed every 3-5k miles. Oil is good for longer, but filters dont last.
I think 5k is a good OCI.
I buy the expensive Purolator one because i like the color of it.
Great info. I've been using Purolator one but looks like they may stop making them. They are now owned by mann+Hummel. Thinking about going with napa, but either should be good. As long as they filter down to 21 microns at 99%. That's most important to me.
As far as I know, they are still making the Purolator One. I think the Purolator One has a better micron rating than the Napa Platinum. Napa's website used to say the micron rating for the Platinum was a nominal 21, now it doesn't say anything.
And it doesn't say at what %.
Looks like wix makes all napa oil filters.
Purolator one boss is the best in the game
The Bosch Premium Oil Filter's patented FILTECH MEDIA has a 99% Efficiency at 20 Microns -- the standard of the industry. PERFECT for the 5,000-mile oil & filter change interval.
Run either of them depends which is in stock local...
Wix all the way. How about measuring the pleat surface area and the flow?
I'm seeing a pattern in your videos of Fram skimping on the filter media. The latest Fram you opened up against the Mazda filter was the same way.
now this goes for everything in the market today. the reason why you see the filters changing, even down to the packaging looking cheaper is to keep the part affordable. they can’t build them they way they use to without it costing the consumer and as any study goes people buy what they can afford. a standard 51515 wix use to be around $20-25, i think they are like $7-10 bucks now.
I'd gladly pay more for better quality. I'm a quality kind of gal!