Engineers Test the Best Oil Filters! FRAM | Mobil 1 | K&N | Walmart Brand
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- čas přidán 18. 03. 2023
- We LAB tested four high mileage oil filters to see which one was the best. From their capacity to filter out aluminum powder, to their flow restriction, and filtering performance, we're leaving no stone unturned. If you want to learn how an oil filter works and find out which one takes the crown, then stick around.
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If you want to see other Oil Filters tested, let us know in the comments below!
Yes. Show the other oil filters please!
Purolator Boss 😁🤓. Just subed recommend from FBM channel. 😁
Motorcraft
Motorcraft filters?
How about the Purolator One? My choice for oil filters
Wix XP and Purolator filters are very popular. Would love to see them against these filters
@js12278 Thank you so much for the recommendation! We will attempt to do our best to test the most popular ones. A channel with less than 1000 subscribers has a tight budget😔. Your comment and support really helps, so we appreciate it immensely! Don't forget to like and subscribe.😁
@@BrandRanks I’ll gladly send you a wix and wix XP filter 😁😁
Purolator Boss would be great to test vs Mobil 1 you already did. Thanks. Great content.
I agree. I'd love to see the Purolator Boss!
I agree
One thing I would suggest, despite the difficulty of doing so, is using oil heated to normal operating temps for the long-duration tests. The oil/filter media relationship changes very much with temperature.
@97marqedman, This is a great suggestion, we are looking into this for future videos, be sure to subscribe so you don't miss out on future content! Thanks for the support!
Update: Make sure to go check out our new videos with the upgraded RIG.
#Perfect!!! 👍🏻
im still gonna use mobil 1 oil filters because im confident it will pass the "heated oil" test.
As long as all other factors are the same, then it is a fairly realistic test, but it would be very awesome to see if there was any actual changes, like maybe the warmer oil able to carry some particulates through the filter.
Throw an Amsoil filter in the mix. Would love to see how it does
I've been using Mobile 1 high mileage synthetic and aFram ultra filter fo 15 years perfect so far, and on a 2004 Ram 1500 i have 400,000 miles still running good..Great Video!!!
My vehicle maintenance is similar, vehicle having 310,000 miles. Please note, you do not have to use the high mileage every oil change. It has seal conditioners. So every other time is adequate for engines over 5 years old. Sometimes I use 1 quart of the high mileage with 4 quarts of full synthetic. I don't want to over condition the seals. But with 400,000 you are doing many things right...
A old acquaintance of mine once bought a 65 Biscayne because it ran really quiet.
But it was gutless.
Turns out tge quiet part was because the space under the valve covers was absolutely crammed with hardened sludge.
He cleaned it up, started it up,
And,
Clatter-clatter-clatter-clatter.
Probably never had an oil change.
SMH
@@vanpenguin22Some people think motor oil is just for oiling the engine. They just don't know any more than that.
Same I use.
Useless test
This has been one the best actual testing of oil filters. Most other sites just cut them apart and give subjective opinions on their construction without any valid performance testing.
Thank you so much for the kind words. Your support is greatly appreciated!
@@BrandRanks As an Engineer, I analyze all the facts possible before coming to a conclusion. Yes, there's still some questions that could be addressed. One that comes to mind is: What's the difference in each filter performance if the oil is changed every 5K, 7.5K, or 10K miles? Force Induction applications are more severe to oil as compared Natural Aspirated Engines. Would flow in FI be more important then NA engines?
Some of these results may be significant or may not be discernable.
Those are great points and good ideas to figure out in future videos. Also make sure to watch the new video where we greatly improved our testing process with a bigger budget.
This is what I wanted to see. Not just taking a filter apart to see how pretty it looks inside.
@t bolt Glad you enjoyed. Thank you for your support!
All these tests are absolutely not relevant in cold oil, must redo everything.
@@47ALTAIR47 WHY ? In what way ?
@@tbolt5883 In the sense that the pressure reducing valve in almost all filters comes off at different pressures until the oil heats up and changes viscosity, this is called the operating mode, and all the tests in this video were carried out under absolutely incorrect conditions for the normal operation of the filter.
Exactly 💯. Much more thorough info for us engineering types. -Ohio
I’ve seen many other videos on oil filters from various channels. Most of them just cut it open and examine the internals. Your guys’ video is the first review I’ve seen with actual performance testing. Very well made and informative. Would love to see more!
@Sixty Minute, Thank you for your feedback! We're glad to hear that you found our video informative and well-made.
You watched nates interactive auto and Carsntoys videos too? Haha
Yes, they examine the internals and criticize the materials used, but then never explain why the material difference matters. Even in this video, one of them had a plastic internal barrel instead of metal; if it's not a piece that handles stress to need the strength of metal, why is it assumed that metal is functionally any better?
May I suggest project farm? He breaks A LOT of this down among more of the filters at once. Similar testing as well.
@@crazyndn49 I love project farm but he doesn’t have a single video on oil filters.
The sheer effort to make this video....
Thank you for making it from UK.
He is measuring when the bypass valve opens
@moriwaki1105 Thank you so much for your kind words. We really appreciate you took the time to write this. Glad you enjoyed.
The bypass opens between 2-5bar. When the engine is cold, no oil is filtered, everything goes in the bypass. Most engines have an oil pressure of 3 bar and above. Test the filters without the bypass valve and with different oil temperatures and see how much oil flows through the oil filters!
FINALLY a test were goes beyond just cut open and counting pleats...pressure differential and filtration capacity, that's what's really matters!
Yes they did an excellent job but you're also welcome to do those extra tests that you think are required or should be done instead of somebody else taking the time to do it you could be the one that doesn't instead of complaining about it so always remember people put the effort into making videos because that's the time that they have and that's what they're allowing themselves to do and when you go above that obviously you have the time to do that and the finances to do that and if you have to complain about somebody else doing something that you don't have the time or money to do well then you really don't have the right to be saying anything saying anything
@@FordBossMe I dont know why you took this comment personally. It wasn’t directed to you, even because you are not the only one that performers this kind of tests I ''complained' about, there are a lot of channels that do the same.
You also are welcome to react in two different manners, attack me because of what I said or set this kind of video as a new standard (and go beyond) to enhance your content regarding oil filters. I'm a subscriber of your channel and I know for a fact that you do all kinds of videos about car maintenance, and in the end, for us (including you) as users and mechanics, we know that in the end, the number of pleats, the media material, the resistance of the can, none of this matters. What really matter is how well the filter actually perform, by testing the oil flow, restriction and filter capacity is what matters the most for me, and should it for you too.
@@luxcabelga you could be the factor and setting the standard for what you dislike as well
You could have said great job guys keep it up instead of dragging your distaste for others lacking to your liking into it
It's cool info, but the testing basically just proved that they're all more than good enough
I get the 20k synthetic oil and pair it with the 20k rated filter.... and still change it every 3 to 5k miles 😅
@Martin Burgos Hahaha I've been using the FRAM ultra for years and changing it every 7500 as well. Your car should be in top shape! Thanks for your comment and for supporting the channel🙂
Likewise. What’s more, I use Mobil 1 Extended Performance Full Synthetic 0W-20 and their M1C-251A ‘cartridge style’ filter in my 2012 Camry SE, both of which are changed every 5,000 miles ON THE DOT. Nothing but the very best for my trusty steed!
A Group IV/V oil can go that distance provided the additive package is tuned right but I wouldn't do it with anything less.
I'd probably go with the better oil flow over filtering, simply because it's easy to change the oil more often, which will reduce wear, whereas oil starvation will destroy your engine far more rapidly.
Exactly. Best to go with OEM with perfect pressure specs
@@hjer731thank#, great idea….actually went that way( esp MOPAR, lots GMC), last several years….Switched to BOSS , generally now
There's a bypass though
@@hjer731OEM is good , though this test would probably lean me towards the Mobil 1 .
Paper filter that filters down to 20 microns at the highest % is your best option.
I used to use a bypass filter along with the normal full flow filter. It would filter constantly even and especially at higher engine rpm, and filter down to 5 micron. Since it is so restrictive, the full flow (normal) filter was there to provide filtering AND oil to vital engine components. However oil that was 2 years old was just as clean as it was at 500 miles. I changed the bypass once a year.
This has huge potential. You should definitely do more brands. Penzoil, amsoil, oem filters, ect!
Thank you so much for the kind words and the suggestion! Much appreciated.
@@BrandRanks Honda oem next please 🙏🏻
Amsoil is a Wix XP filter
@@DTuned559 Honda OEM is basically a re-branded Fram Tough-Guard filter lol.
@@kimblem.w9952 🤣
So my take away from this is the mobile one has better flow but it doesn't have better filtering capacity and for a non-performance vehicle the Fram Ultra would be acceptable in the essence of making sure the longevity of that engine stays very healthy for much longer
Now with that being said I would ask you if you guys make sure that the bypass rate was the same for each one of these filters to make sure that the initial oil flow testing was accurate
@Ford Boss me we would definitely agree with that take away. I personally have ran the FRAM for years and have had no issues. As for the the bypass valve pressure, you have a good point. In order to make the fairest comparison we could, we applied the same pump power to all of the filters. Unfortunately, some of these manufacturers don't specify their by-pass valve pressure ratings. So maybe on the next video we will test measure that. Thank you for your input, it really is much appreciated and helps us a lot to improve and get better.
@@BrandRanks I personally have experienced a Mobil 1 filter on 2007 Ram Cummins, that was bypassing through the valve (confirmed through oil sampling & filter dissection), which would account for your lower back. pressure.
Actually, in practice I believe full flow filters bypass valves are open way more than you think.
@@BrandRanks find out how much force it take to push the valve in. Measure the area that is exposed. That is how you determine the crack pressure.
Most bypasses open at less than 20 psi I believe. They have to because the pump can't shove all the required volume of oil the engine needs through a full flow filter especially when cold or at higher rpms. The filter is still filtering, just not the entire volume of oil that the pump sends through it. I use AMSOIL first, then Wix XP second choice and have used a few Mobile One filters. If you want to filter your oil really well install a bypass system.
i think as long as you change your oil often it doesnt really matter.. using a cheap filter and oil and changing every 4-5k miles vs using the best of the best and changing at 10-12k i think the cheaper is better.. changing your oil is what is important
You don't want to use mineral oil cold starts is where the damage is done good oil %100 amsoil is one of the best to stop metal shedding on cold starts.
%100 Ester oil
Changing the oil is a good thing but you want the parts fully protected and definitely wanna use %100 Ester oil if you live in cold climate areas the cold starts will cause metal shedding.
You’d be very wrong
@@ohboy2592 i have owned well over 50 vehicles and do not use expensive oil yet have never had an engine fail because of a problem with the oil. so chances are i might be very right.. but life experience and knowledge mean little in todays world compared to internet knowledge
My results are :
1. I use only full synthetic oil and usually a Fram XG filter every oil change
2. I do an oil change every 5000 miles
3. at 200,000 miles my engine burns zero oil and runs like the day I bought it
In my personal opinion the 5000 mile oil change gives the best results regardless of the oil or filter used or the make and model of the car.
I have driven at least a million and half miles in my life so far and I have never blown and engine.
Same here, I buy the "high end" Fram filters for my vehicles but do them every 5k miles with synthetic blend. Been doing this since the 90s without issue. Synthetic obviously came along a bit later and I switched from 3k to 5k miles after finally accepting 5k was okay with the upgraded oil and filters combined. I use MotorCraft too since I'm a Ford fanboy. My Fords have gotten totaled before I've ever had to do any engine work (when you drive 160-230 miles a day for work, the fools will eventually catch up to you no matter how cautious you are).
Well I ran 265k miles on my Ford 4.6 and changed the oil maybe 10 times in its life. The engine ran strong and silent. Synthetic oil goes WAY beyond 5k miles. I'm currently running a Ford 5.0 with 199 thousand on the clock and change oil once every two years. I run fram filters and change every other oil change. As you can see by his test the filter media was basically clean after directly pouring in metal. I do not recommend my practices just stating my real world experience.
Sorry Rich, but ALL IC engines burn SOME oil.
Yours may be using a very small amount-from what you've written its not enough to need any added between oil changes, but still a measurable amount. My wife's Scion goes 7500-10,000 mi between changes and the oil level (of 5W-20 oil) drops VERY little. But without the thin film of oil that is metered through the OIL CONTROL rings (that's their name) engines would have much higher amounts of friction. The heat generated with no cylinder lubrication would be enough to quickly seize the engine.
That tiny bit of oil being supplied to the cross hatching of the cylinder walls, (or more, depending on your particular engine's state of wear) much of which burns off with each combustion cycle, is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to lubricate the cylinder walls.
@@donaldschmied5600 Ok I agree with you but if I'm down very little in oil consumption and I get a little fuel dilution into the oil bringing it back to level , I believe I've reached the best that can be obtained with direct injection technology. If I continue to have the exact same results at 200,000 plus miles , the motor wear is insignificant which is the desired result.
@@donaldschmied5600 EXACTLY, in fact the U.S. Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard require every engine evaluated for use in military service to burn a predesignated amount of oil!
Along with the other great suggestions, I'd love to see some OEM filters stacked up vs. the aftermarket competition like AC Delco, Motorcraft ect..
It would only make sense to compare vs those factory replacements. I have a Toyota and can say the Wix and Mobil 1 filters are much smaller than the Toyota filter even though it’s what they claim it calls for and would love to see a comparison.
No reason to. Champion labs makes both of them. Aka fram
Same I have a ford and it’s motorcraft but usually use k&n cause motorcraft never in stock and I might just switch to mobile 1
@@Tmat_4928 the manufacturer of the parts does not have any bearing on the specifications they are built to , only maybe the build quality , maybe
@@donbeary6394 well you keep buying that cheap shit then.
Just goes to show you that Fram for all the haters out here that it’s a respectable filter. The best filter for you car is a clean one. Cannot stress that enough, clean filters work better and provide protection for a few dollars. Great video, now how do you convince people to change oil regularly when they don’t even know that the car takes oil. I’ve heard it time after time that “I didn’t know it took oil, I just put gas in it “.
@russell Stewart Thank you for the feedback. Your comment makes a huge difference especially for such a small channel. I've actually been running FRAM for years with absolutely no issues, so I agree that the most important thing is a clean filter!
Fram ultra is a good filter, other Fram filters proven not to be very good…
Been using Fram ultra for years , no problem at all ......ofc it has the be the Ultra one not the rest of the line up.
I would never put the cheap standard Fram filter on any of my vehicles but that changed with the Ultra Synthetic filter. Very good quality at a decent price. I always run synthetic oils with either the Fram Ultras in my Subarus and the Wix XP in my diesel. You can waste money by changing the oil and filters more frequently if that gives you piece of mind but I usually do 10,000 between oil changes in my vehicles. My Subarus range currently in the 140,000 to 150,000 miles and the diesel is at 200,000 and run great. Things have changed greatly in the quality of oils and the amount of contaminates that EFI engines produce. There is no need to do the 3,000 mile oil changes anymore.
It's just the cheap cardboard fram that sucks
Nice test. and honest comparison.
There are definitely many more filters that could be compared to these.
I've got 235000 miles on my 02 Ford F150, using nothing but Motorcraft oil and filters.
They've worked so well to this point, I don't plan on changing...
Not sure what the "high mileage" filters or oil do differently, but I subscribe to the theory "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
Subscribed, this was very thorough and well done. Hope you are compensated with many views and more subscribers and can’t wait to see more
would be interested to see how OEM filters perform in the same tests.
Yeah, I've had many tell me it's the only way to go so that's what I've always done.
OEM filters are frequently rebadged filters. May, or may not be made to different specs.
This test has been done years ago and the normal Fram lost horribly compared to the Motorcraft Napa gold and Wix. I'm curious if Fram has made the filters better? They didn't test the other OEM filters, so it would be a good test to do.
Motorcraft are truly exceptional
Really interested to see how Motorcraft holds up in the competition.
The best filter is the one you change every 5,000 miles or less...
yes and you can take it with 2500 and get filter it in a centrufigator and put back inside
there are engines than never change oil and works for a life time...
@@user-wv1pj6wh4hnot with a car engine.
It's cheap, just change it...
I run my oil to 6000 miles but swap filter every 3000.
@@NodakSavageThat seems unnecessary
my GMC Canyon 05' with 265K miles runs fine. Doesn't burn oil and I have used various oils and filters. Change your oil is smart to do - but it really comes down to how good of an engine was originally built for your vehicle. Hope you didn't get the bad one built at the close of shift on a weekend!
Thank you! Great work/I appreciate the work! I must admit: The findings were right on line with what I have derived from many, many cars & the testing of every olive filter & then some! "And"... all on many different types of vehicles & driving modes! Stock, Modified, most all vehicles were performance models as well! Been driving for 65 yrs. J
I'm glad to finally see an oil flow test. I would love to see how Amsoil, royal purple, Purolator, and Wix filters perform against the filters that were already tested.
Yeah, I suspect a wire-backed glass media provides much more flow for a given filtering efficiency.
That would including Amsoil and Royal Purple filters, they use Donaldson’s Synteq media.
Wix XP uses something fairly similar
Sergiu Gabor has a whole line of videos. In the end like most things in life, it seems to be all about compromise.
Seconding amsoil
AMSOIL filters actually are Mobil1 filters.
The CZcams algorithm worked here. I’ve been searching for real filter testing for over a year now. I really appreciate the scientific method and getting to filter performance vs look like other channels. This is very Project Farm style testing. Video quality is also great. I hope this goes viral for you guys.
A few suggestions for future testing as I think this could be big for your channel. As others have suggested, I’d test other brands including Amsoil, Napa Gold and Platinum (or WIX equivalent), Royal Purple, Purolator One and Boss, AC Delco Ultragaurd Gold.
Since you have built such a good rig and have access to a lab I’d suggest some extra tests. You could do a filter efficiency test to see, over a fixed period of time, how much aluminum of various particle sizes gets filtered out. Would be interested to test at 20, 30, 40, 60, 100 micron - effectively creating an efficiency per particle size. For the particle capacity test it would be interesting to take the filters to when the bypass lifts (or the media fails) and to know the pressure that happens at.
Keep up the awesome work.
You make me glad I use mobil1, but I was impressed with the fram ultra and sell those at work too
Mobile 1 is the only filter and oil I've used for years. Thanks for the confirmation.
The Fram filters particles above 20 microns. The other 3 start at 30 microns. That''s a significant difference. Might add particle size distribution testing to the lab tests.
IDK, it may not offer much of a practical difference, especially if its filter media can spread out more. It's definitely one of those numbers I don't believe unless I see it verified.
Definitely second the parti😊😊cle size testing, it's a very good idea.
Does it really matter? Yes and no. The vast majority of particulate can’t be filtered out by 20 or 30 µm. It does hamper the flow though. As the filter loads up. So be careful what you wish for especially if you’re running a GM V8 which wants high flow
@@sbond1963 I wouldn't buy a fram if the box told me it'd make me shit gold
@@jordanlong00 I use the Fram tough guard. Love that filter. Spin on and the cartridge version.
@jordanlong00 Honestly, me neither, especially for the cheap ones. Their build quality and quality control are lacking
Very nice job. When you test more filters in the future please stick with this exact same method so we can compare the next round against this batch too! Well done!
@_R_ Thank you so much for your feedback and for supporting the channel. Your words mean a lot. We are always looking to improve not just the video quality, but our testing. Some great viewers have made good suggestion to improve on the testing so if we incorporate we may come back and retest if our small channels budget allows. Again, thank you so much!
Ha yes, even small variations will drive me nuts lol.
I’ve been using this Mobil 1 filters on my C5 Z06 for a few years now. Glad it came out on top.
Been running M1 EP oil and filters in all my vehicles for 15 years. Even in my 240k mile 5.4 3v that has known cam phaser issues and it's still quiet as a mouse fart. Glad to see the filter did so well.
This would make a great series. I'd love to see a Denso, Wix, FRAM TG, and Bosch comparison ❤
Agree! Definetly planning on a lot more filters.make sure to subscribe so you don't miss them. Thank you for your support!
Or Mopar
Or Mopar
I would be interested in seeing some results from standard oil filters as well. I use wix gold filters because I change my oil every 2000-3000 miles, and I feel like the oil pressure and flow is better without all the unnecessary filter media I don't need.
Amazing comparison. You just made it very easy for me to pick out my next engine oil filter on Rock Auto!
Glad it helped. Thank you so much for watching and supporting the channel. We are working on a series to test all the other oil filter brands out there so make sure to subscribe so you don't miss it. Thanks again!
@@BrandRanks you have definitely earned yourself a new subscriber!
Love it! More head to head tests with different brands please! I need to know which filter reigns supreme for my next oil change.
Thank you so much for your support! Glad you enjoy. We are currently waiting on lab results for our next couple of videos. It's been a lot of work putting together a new (better rig). Thank you for your support
This video was fantastically thorough and informative while remaining concise. The editing was top notch. This type of content makes CZcams a better place. Nicely done and thank you!
Thank you Devin! It really means a lot to read this. It keeps us motivated to keep producing more content. Your support is greatly appreciated.
So glad I found your channel-awesome content!
You're like Project Farms kid brother who recently graduated from an esteemed engineering university and decided to channel his overflowing enthusiasm into intelligent product testing.
And I'm here for it!
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Thank God because that's what I use in my 2013 Toyota Highlander with 0w 20 20k miles full synthetic, Mobile 1. excellent brand
You have a Toyota engine, brand of oil doesn’t matter, as long as you change the oil every 5k-10k you’re good.
Subscribed! Thank you for the extremely informative video!
This was one of the best breakdowns I've seen. Very thorough and easy to understand. Showing the interior of the the filters after the process definitely exposes some of the design flaws.
I have been using the mobil1 filter for a long time, look like I will continue with that. Thanks for the great video!
My dad was a fram hand. I bought my first car in 79 and I've been a fram hand. Never had a problem with them.
Great video!! doing the hard work for us!
It would have been good to see Wix XP and Purolator Boss filters tested. Both are currently made in the USA and are top models for those companies.
Wix is no longer us made
Been using purolator since 97 and still do. Purolator used to put a gold grip on their cans kind of like the Fram filters years ago but it didnt last long. Still use them to this very day.
Wix is used on all the HD equipment at 28 mines that I contracted for over the past 20 years...
@@chrome2infinity938do you notice a difference between oil filter brands ?
Thank you for performing this test and posting here. Most of the oil filter reviews I have seen focus on cutting open the can an performing a visual inspection. Knowing how well the filter will actually function allows for an informed decision on which "brand" to use.
@My Phone, You're welcome! We're glad that you found our test informative and useful.
Awesome filter video! Glad you were suggested in my feed. I’m subscribing now!
@F1fan007 Thank you so much. We are so glad you found us and that you enjoyed. Hope you have a wonderful day!
thank you for that info! HELPS a lot!!
Thanks for this video. I really enjoyed it. As a Mobil 1 guy since the early 2000s, it's nice to see some reinforcement for my decision. I've run nothing but M1 oil and filters nearly my entire adult life. It's worth the 💰
Thank YOU for supporting the channel. So glad you enjoyed.
Definitely need a Wix XP vs Purolator Boss vs European Mann filter vs Ford Motorcraft (Ford filters are cheaper in price than Supertech) maybe even an STP Extended life filter!! Great way to test them 👍
@ Jeff W. Thank you for the suggestions and your feedback! it is much appreciated
mann filter will be nice. i am willing to send you some european filters!
The Mobil 1 filters are made by Mann+Hummel
I just saw a product on Amazon. A disk shaped magnet slightly less in diameter as THESE filters that attached at the end of the filter. . The magnet is impressively strong.
Speaker magnets or broken up hard drives stuck on he side .
We need more of these oil filter tests with different brands. Waiting..
The fram was the only one that stated 99% at 20 microns, the rest were rated at 30 microns.
Fram company needs to be shutdown.
@@AndyLishiouslmao not defending fram but did you actually watch the video before writing that, it claimed the best filtering capacity and delivered on it, im still gonna keep running mobil 1 filters myself but i think this video proved how wrong the fuck fram bandwagon is more than anything else
@@AndyLishious why they won. Your bias is showing
@@djasseater2262 That really depends on which line of Fram oil filter that you choose.
Fram’s Extra Guard and Drive lines are some of the worst in the market, with the Drive being Fram’s worst line. The Extra Guard line is its traditional line that ruined Fram’s reputation by being sold as a premium line that failed to perform once people started to test and publish results on the internet, with the Extra Guard sometimes getting stories of having caused engine damage by having the filter media disintegrate into the engine and clog it up years ago on the internet. The Drive line is even worse by having a plastic core instead of a metal one. However, I have learned that counterfeit Fram filters have also damaged engines, so some of the damaged engine stories could be due to the fakes. Other stories on the internet showed that the Fram Extra Guard was cut down until it was barely good enough for 3,000 miles but no more, which caused problems once cars that can do more miles per oil change started getting sold.
Fram’s Tough Guard and Force lines are the minimum acceptable quality lines. They get an adequate job done.
The Ultra Synthetic and Titanium lines are Fram’s premium lines which are high quality.
The Synthetic Endurance line is its super premium no expense spared line, including a metal screen to back up the filter media. It is overkill, but could be worth it if your oil change intervals are very long.
There are other oil filter brands to be wary of. Champion Labs sells two lines of oil filters that are widely rebranded. Its current standard oil filter line is often known as E-core, has a plastic core, and has a poor reputation. Champion Labs’ XL Synthetic Oil Filter line was at one time Champion Labs’ standard line, and is premium quality. Its most famous rebrand is Mobil 1. Mobil wanted nothing to do with the E-core line and continued to buy the old line when Champion Labs introduced the cut-down line. AC Delco and STP are some of the many brands that resell E-core rebrands. Fram bought Champion Labs out a few years ago. That probably explains why Fram Drive filters look a lot like E-core filters.
It's been a few years now, but I watched another video similar to this one. The wix filters took the win there, but what was interesting was that the filters were cut open at the beginning, and a brand new sealed fram had rust on the inside of it
I have used Royal Purple filters for years and would love to see a comparison in this type of setup. This is probably the most well put together test of filters I've seen on YT so far! Great work!
@Daniel Baker Thank you so much for the encouraging words. We are definitely planning on testing the royal purple. Stay tuned! Thanks for the suggestion!
@@BrandRanks Can you do a separate test running E85 on fuel filters paper and stainless steel?
I used to work for a filtration manufacturer. Internally, Royal Purple is identical to Amsoil, Mobil-1, and a number of other boutique brands. They are manufactured by Champion Labs.
@@unclebob540i3 Do you happen to know if the toyota trd oil filters are in the same category as those?
@@torment6369 I'm pretty sure that one is Champion labs as well. Champion labs and FRAM make a lot of OE filters. Honda and Subaru oil filters are FRAM also, for example.
Many heavy Trucks use a second very fine Bi-pass filter .. A small amount of oil goes through the bi=pass filter at a slower rate..
🔥🔥🔥Why was WIX not involved in this test!?!?! 🔥🔥🔥
Great video. I have used the Mobil 1 extended performance filters in every car I recently owned within the past 10 years and I agree with your test. They are very good filters.
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Что скажешь на счёт фильтра Man ?
@@twhalen 650,000 combined miles on 3 cars over many years and NO.
I’d love to see an OE filter thrown in the mix. Fantastic test!
Great review!
My Dad and I use Frams Ultra Synthetic filters for all ours cars and so far no issues. The tape grip on the back helps a ton as well with installation.
I've rebuilt hundreds of failed engines. They all had a Fram filter.
Fram only makes fake filters
some number of years ago, i saw another video doing oil filter reviews. they cut open brand new filters to observe the construction and the fram had rusty parts and metal shavings in it. before seeing that video i was a Fram guy myself. now i only use Wix
@@elixeroflifeim sure other brands if cut open can be the same lol
@@elixeroflifei have heard people say fram oil filters gaskets come off. I find it strange fram is all me and my dad has ever used and we have never had a problem lol
@@nunya8048 only issue ive had with Fram is hearing debris rattle around inside, new right out of the box. and at times being rusty.
Never knew oil filters were more than just filters… with built in valves and such. Very cool
This was an awesome video! Love how the experiments were setup. Would love to see OEM brand filters compete (Toyota, Honda, Mopar, Motorcraft, etc.)
Hyundai and ac Delco filter test would be good with the other OEM filter test
Dang! Your video production and editing is top notch. Your channel is going to grow so fast. Well done!!!
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Very interesting. I love the science behind your study.
I just changed my oil yesterday. I put on that Mobil 1 filter. Feeling good rn. Got my fix for the week.
I use K&N for the excellent flow rate and as you seen smoked everyone else on filtering out the junk. Don’t really care about capacity because of something clogged the filter you have bigger problems in the first place 😊 Mobil 1 is my second choice for sure
I have been changing my own oil for 40+ years and have never skimped on quality, oil or filter. I have been using K&N for the last couple of changes and have never seen a filter keep the oil so clean. I hope K&N doesn't change anything with these awesome filters.
Yea right
I liked the testing process and seeing the results in the bar graphs. Simple advice for us DIY drivers: whether you choose brand X or Y filters, be very diligent about Regular Oil Changes!
Oil and filters are CHEAP and new engines EXPENSIVE !!
@Rick Fenestra Thank you for your feedback! Lots of work went into this and we are glad you enjoyed. Also, can't agree more with your advice. Oil filter changes are number one priority.
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I have used Mobil 1 filters and full synthetic for years. My engines have never had any issues, and they purr quietly….including my ecoboost v6 twin turbo Expedition.
The methods you used to test the filters and the overall production quality is very impressive. Subbed
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Great job first time I saw anyone actually measure the actual filtering characteristics of the filters
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Excellent test and analysis, well done, great video!
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Thanks for testing these..
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Great testing. I have used Mobil One both in my car and in my truck. Happy to see they work.
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Thank you for doing all this work to find out this information. I subscribed. I appreciate how much time you spent on this. Valuable info in my opinion
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This is huge, thank you
This video came up in my feed, and I have to say you did a fantastic job, this video is getting all the views it deserves. Bravo
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Yep
I like the lack of mention of delta p. I also like how you find a 30 micron filter superior to a 20. Engines still during normal use see 20 micron. Its also been shown that filtering at 20 micron has not hurt anyones oil pressure where people have had lack of lubrication. Test doesnt tell the whole story.
Thanks for the feedback, make sure to go watch our latest video, were we made several improvements to the testing. Thanks for watching!
Great review and processes.
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Great work, nice tests, good editing... Splendid video. Learned about filters I was ACTUALLY considering. Please do more brands like Pennzoil or Castrol synthetics, Wix filters, etc.! You definitely earned a subscriber and a like from me. Have a great day!
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The production quality is insane. Only 15K subs? Consuder me impressed. Great video! New sub!
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random and BrandRanks, I switched to Mobil 1, since I owned a 1990 Buick LeSabre, a 2004 Buick LeSabre, and a 2013 Chevy Avalanche. What are the thoughts on Lucas Oil Stop Leak, and Marvel Mystery Oil?
Great video man
Great test guys! I got no bias whatsoever in this video. I would really love to see Wix and Amsoil filters tested.
Great comparison. Nice editing, well done.
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Bypass valves are very common and a very good thing. Even in aviation we have them because unfiltered oil or fluid is better than none.
Most of these filters look like they'd cause a huge issue the second they bypass, since they build up so much material at the bottom of the filter. That's still better than no oil and won't be an issue if it's changed regularly though.
@@bobbygetsbanned6049 Take a look at the place of filter of your car, it is very likely that it is not vertical so all the gunk is not underneath this bypass valve. even in this video it is at 90 degrees angle. Also you need opening valve pressure to be the same as the original. if it is weaker than needed, then you may have early openings; and if it is stronger than needed, your engine may struggle without oil.
I Would like to see when Bypass valves activate or fail?
Great video. I'd love to see a motorcycle filter comparison, with brands like Amsoil, Hiflo, Harley, etc.
my dad refused to use Fram filters because he used to be a mechanic and he would sometimes install a new fram filter only to find the car had no oil pressure and he would look and see that the factory had forgotten to punch out the holes for the oil to flow through
That's a cool lie😅
Wow this test was put together really well I can’t wait to see more car parts tested on this channel💪🏾
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I've seen numerous videos on CZcams for oil filter tests. Most of them slam Fram as being the worst. Now I've been working in hight volume auto repair all my life and I'm in my seventies. Don't think I've never seen an engine go south due to an oil filter failure. I've seen engines seize up because someone didn't tighten the filter, and I've seen engine failure do you someone never changing the filter (or oil). But I've never taken a failed engine apart and said, there it is, they had an inferior oil filter on there and the engine failed. Sure some are better than others, just change it when you're supposed to.
Keep up the great content
This video made me subscribe keep em coming
I've been using mobil1 extended life filters for years. I'm glad this test reinforces what I already knew. 😊
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А что на счёт фитров Man ?
I would have loved to see you test the Toyota filter, since you can get them at walmart next to the other brands
Also, I like how in depth you tested the filters. It reminds me of Project Farm videos in a good way. Keep it up!
I've always used Mobil1 full synthetic oils ans filters.. in my most recent vehicle, I run the Mobil1 oil with a MotorCraft filter (FL400-S by Ford) thats slightly larger than the factory one to allow for a tad more capacity. Curious how the Motorcraft ones compare!
This video is spot on. I used K&N for years before I realized I was sacrificing filtration for flow. When I stopped using the K&N, I did use the Fram Ultra Synthetic for the subsequent oil change to clean it all out. Then I switched entirely to Mobil 1 extended performance from then on out. My oil definitely seems to have gotten cleaner. The K&N only protects for 5000 miles tops. One time I waited 6500 miles while using the K&N and the oil got so dirty, I ended up doing 2 oil changes within the next 1000 miles to clean it out. Since switching to Mobil 1 EP, I can easily push the interval up to 7500 miles without worrying too much. I still aim for 5k intervals, but if I don't have time, I don't sweat it like I did with the K&N.
Don't know how you only have 5k subscribers. The quality of video and editing are insane and its extremely well made. Keep it up, and you'll definitely be rewarded!
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I had always been a Puralator /Fram guy many years ago. when to me Fram was the better filter but over the years each manufacturer started skimping on their products and I started using OE filters with very good success and started about 8 years ago using Wix filters which I am also very happy with
@1995dresser, It's great to hear that you've found success with OE filters and Wix filters. Thanks for your comment!
My mom works for fleetguard Cummins filtration, she said on the assembly line that one filter goes one way and gets painted white with a fleetguard label stuck on it and the next goes the other way and gets painted orange with the frame logo stuck on it, so if you can find fleetguard filters (same with air filters too) they are the same as fram for like a third the cost, she been with the company for over 35 years now
@@diychad7268 but frams end cap has a different design and the micron rating is different, so the parts must be different, no?
Interesting video. I remember many of these trucks well.
One thing about the filter capacity is as the filter is loading up its filtering efficiency drops. So the filtering efficiency of the K&N will also drop faster then the mobil and Fram through the entire oil change interval to a point of actually filtering out less contaminants.