I was thinking that Warren. The only explanation was the one you gave. When they reconditioned the rods somebody fu_ed up installing the bushings . Only explanation. Fu__in sucks that the entire engine is fubar with brass particles everywhere. Plus the out of pocket for you plus the owner of the truck being down now. Sh__ deal all the way around
In the aviation world, at least with piston engines many say go with a manufacture reman. Truth is the workers there are just regular guys off the street making low pay with a manager overseeing. People shy away from their local mechanic rebuilding in favor of the manufacturer reman.
Plus fwiw, these engines have an excellent oil filter system with both a cartridge element, as well as a centrifuge spinner filter which is why they can safely run much longer oil change intervals over other mfgs. That centrifuge will get out more stuff than just a regular filter by itself. And that head should be fine to reuse because it doesn't have a cam in it (bearings), either. Good luck buddy 👍.
One thing that all of us know who've been watching your channel for a number of years is that when you make a mistake you're the first one to own up to it, and pay the consequences. It's who you are, and you have a proven track record.
We have lots of people like him but unfortunately there bosses pockets need lined and normally they override the mechanics recommendations. It's to bad it such a dog eat dog world.
It’s good that Warren has video documentation of everything to do with this Paccar, it it’s got to be so demoralizing for all that work for nothing. I hope they take care of the driver for this under warranty.
We own a small family run heavy equipment repair business very similar to yours. We have been in business for the last 15 years. We try to rebuild everything we can ourselves but sometimes you're forced to use reman and it usually bites you every time. No one will stand behind anything anymore and it always becomes your problem. I have had to eat lots of time and money for parts just to make sure the customer is treated the way I would want to be.
No more remanufactured engines, dealer won't own up to anything. They don't call them stealership's for nothing. I can't be a negative Nancy, there's always a ray of hope. You do great work Warren and everyone knows it.
Warren, you have pride in your work and integrity, still head and shoulders above most mechanics out there. I don’t see how you could have been responsible for rod bushings since you were not that deep in that motor repair. Paccar owes him a new motor and should compensate your extra work and time to make it right for the customer!
Now a days its really hard to find people with a conscious . I always say we are who we are with our word. A man that cant own up to his mistake its no good. You are a very honest individual
@@karlsborgwi.jewell9919 Me to. I actually live in Idaho and am planning on taking my 68rfe transmission to Texas to have it built for the exact reason you said above. I want quality over cost. Sure it's going to cost me but that's why I am budgeting for it.
It's a machine brother. Mechanical stuff breaks. Don't kick yourself over it. Bottom line is your going above and beyond to make it right. I salute you for that.
That whole engine is basically trashed, a real shame after all that work. Your attention to detail is second to none. You do right by your customers, integrity and honesty are hard earned skills, that few people have anymore. Good luck to you and your customer, stick it to the man.
Never compromise your quality, and you you never run out of customers. I will pay a bit more to know my job is being done right, and they care about their workmanship. After 33 years as a self employed building contractor, I know exactly what that means. I refused to compromise my quality, and had customers waiting for me to be available at all times. I always used to say, if you want the job clowned up, you better hire some clowns, because I won’t do it. You are a man of honour Warren. Keep up the great work. Cheers from Canada
I have been watching your channel for 8 months now. I am in Canada. I own a business too. You are honest, knowledgeable, caring, conscientious and professional. Sometimes we get dealt a bad hand and have to go beyond what we signed up for. Men vs boys…
and that's why 99% of us watch you mr. Warren is because you are a good man and you care about your customers and you do what's right God bless you and your family and the little baby puppy he's so cute
So hard to find integrity Warren. Thank you for showing us someone that cares... Quality and Accountability are both currently absent from this country..
You're absolutely right Warren!! It's all about the money!! They probably had some unqualified, underpaid, inexperienced hack machine/refurbish the rods, or they were missing the right reamer for the rod small end and just winged it!! Either way they were saving money, or so they thought!!! Since the other four seem okay, I'm of the suspicion that they forgot or accidentally skipped the last two! It's comforting to know that there are still some people like you, that have some self respect and accountability! It's sadly lacking in the world today! We watched you assemble the engine and, we all know, did a damn good job, and we would have been proud to have accomplished such a job ourselves! I don't see how they could blame you for this! Glad to see Josey is doing good. We have to cherish the good in life, and learn not to dwell in the bad. It's good to see you enjoying your new puppy! I also got a new puppy, and am having fun playing with him and loving on him! I have a feeling that "it's" going to get a lot worse, sooner than later; we better enjoy it while we can!!
Breath of fresh air sir. You humbled yourself before anything else. How’s it go? Pull the log out of your eye before you complain about the twig in theirs… Got yourself a subscriber! Great job sir.
I believe your analysis is correct....incorrect bushing fit...led to walking...led to blocking oil supply hole....led to bushing failure....seems like a clear case of 'Progressive Failure'. Thanks for showing us the underside where the bushing movement is clear for all to see.
If you look at the first video on this motor at around 14:30 you can see oil tubes coming off a pipe pointed straight up the each cylinder. Likely no hole up through connecting rod to pin bushing.
How right you are, Warren! It's all about how cheap we can make it for the most profit. Engineers draw it up, and then it goes to the Bean Counters. Instead of six bolts, can't we just use four? And on it goes. We have become a throw-away society.
That really sucks man. You do great work, there’s no winners here .This stuff is why I went to work for a highway dept, where it’s easier to absorb something like this . Being the mechanic there we constantly deal with broken trucks ,most from salt damage, popped and broken crank sensors ,green wiring,and poor craftsmanship on the up fits we get .You are absolutely right no one cares anymore about quality of work or what’s right , it’s all about the money for sure.
I once saved my company more than $50k on just one small part. They couldn’t believe it and asked me how I knew to fix that. I said that I had gone to the warranty department and asked them what their biggest return was. We brainstormed a bit and devised a solution. Implemented the solution and went along our business. It really comes down to listening to your people, getting real feedback from your customers, and acting on it. Corporations build in a failure rate that they are ok with. If you buy a new car there has already been a decision made on how many deaths there will be and what it will cost. If it’s too high they’ll fix the problem. If not, send it. You’re simply a statistic folks.
Yep, you will never see a haul behind a hearse. Well I’m glad you found out what the problem was so at least you know what you did was good and correct. Have to respect a man that takes responsibility for his actions, your a great man Warren
Be sure and check the oil passage in the rod - we had a kit fail on a 149 Detroit one time - changed it out and that same hole failed again in short order.. pulled it down again and after looking everything over - found a broken drill bit left in the oil hole - the bit must have broken while being pulled out because the oil hole passed air just fine when we blew it out one the first replacement - everything is fine till you loaded it up on the load bank... one trick a really old guy taught me about checking an engine when load banking an engine - when your breaking it in let it idle every few minutes - if something is seizing the engine wont idle - the excessive drag will kill the engine when you come off high speed ... simple as that - saves throwing a rod and ruining a block from a mistake or rebuild issue
I always try to live my life the old school way, ( my handshake is my word), to me your a down to earth man Warren, keep going the way your going! Cheers.
100% you are a great man and no big time shop would bend over backwards like you do. That is why you have the customers you have. Hope the reman company steps up, if they do you need to make a video on that also. good company's need good publicity also. thanks for sharing
Integrity is not just a word in the dictionary. You are absolutely correct with today's "Business Model"! Any and everything to increase profit. No more family businesses. Corporate greed. It made my heart ache when I saw the short about the failure.
The little end of the rod isn’t pressurized so oil pressure shouldn’t effect it You seem like a great guy and I’m the same way Stuff like this is why I don’t do mechanic work anymore God Bless you sir
You are a special person. Doing things right are rare in today's world. I'm a machine shop and it's tough to get quality workmanship today. You keep up the good work I myself go through the same stuff.
I know what you are feeling i own a 2 bay automotive shop in a small town and i work 12 to 14 hrs a day even Sundays and I would do the same thing and feel the same way you do if you're like me I wouldn't be able to sleep because it would eat me up . You are doing the right thing taking care of your customers. Thanks
I think you are 100% right on it being an assembly mistake and I can't say I'm surprised. I own a small fleet of trucks with cat engines. In December I had to rebuild one and I always use genuine cat parts. I was lucky enough to find and buy a genuine cat platinum kit. The head was not a reman, it was brand new. It went together with no issues, and started up easy and had great oil pressure. During break in, it spun a cam bering. A couple of years ago on the rebuild of a B model cat, again with a NEW genuine cat head it lost a valve seat on an exhaust valve. Cat would not step up to pay for redoing work that their failure caused. Not to mention the poor quality of these pricy parts.
You are 100% right about corporations but for the individuals that did rebuild the reman there isn't any quality in their mechanics anymore they don't care anymore. Be proud you keep your standards high Warren
We used to get a butt load of cummins big cam heads from a supposed reputable rebuilder in town. When valve guides and seats started dropping out we found a new place quick..
Warren, you are one of the most HONEST guys that I have seen on here and you show your worth, you show your mistakes, you don't hide anything. You are literally a diamond in the rough when it comes to legit honesty and care when it comes to customers and the work you do. Never get down on yourself for Anything that has happened. You know what you all did, you know what you checked, and how careful you are. We ALL support you and will always continue to do so! If I lived closer, I would love to hop over and turn a wrench or 2 beside you. Have a good week and keep smiling!!!
Bravo to you, my friend! I been there myself when I was still turning wrenches. That pride kicks in so you do your best to serve your customers. Many might disagree. You’re doing the right thing. Bless you.
I had a company that built and machined 3208 Cat Engines for us. All of the engines had rod problems because the rod bushings were machined out of square. They were sized correctly but something happened and they were not square. It took a lot of researching the parts that failed. Pistons scored the skirts because the pins were seizing up. We got it all fixed and after replacing a number of engines they found the problem. These guys were good to work with and stood behind the work. After 30 years it don't seem as big a problem as it was then. What I'm saying is, "people make mistakes"! At the end of the day just look back and say, " its all good and bad comes along sometimes"! Thanks for the videos, they are interesting.
All the best with it Warren, hope the dealer does the decent thing. Keep us posted, thanks, Dave, Sheffield UK. Ps, can’t see any one giving you a hard time, you are a fair decent guy.
Thanks for the update Warren. I agree with your initial diagnosis. Don’t see how anything you did from assembly of the parts onto a factory short block. If there was some issues in the oil pump, you would have had pressure issues and Main and rod bearing problems before the small end failures. If they didn’t line up the oil hole on the small end, that could have caused the issue as well. Thanks for sharing your time and videos. Glad to know someone else with a Conscience and Integrity.
Your a good man, honesty and integrity, a man' s word is still worth something. You will be vindicated if the the Dealer Shop Foreman is a man of his word. Keep doing what you are doing, I enjoy your channel, good luck and God Bless. You are correct on your observations of society /corporations chasing the dollar.
I have already mentioned it Warren. Your name and reputation deserves better. You admit that you are not infallible, but I would trust you with any stuff I needed repaired. In my opinion you would be better having as much absolute control over components that you can. If that means remanning your own stuff. I think this video, like others you have done, illustrate that you are a man of honour. I hope a whole bunch of good karma is headed your way.
You are a good genuine person. I wish to god we had people like on this side of the country. Your knowledge, experience and honesty is becoming a thing of the past!! I have a bxs cat being overhauled, I gave the mechanic $15,000 to get going with it and I Will Not Hound him till it’s done! To many assholes are in a hurry and don’t care about the little guy!
That’s right, we got out the job because we were constantly undermined and undervalued. All that know how and experience taken away, who cares?, nobody.
Man Warren that situation sucks for everyone involved but you know you're an honest man and the video tape doesn't lie. Honesty and hardwork will prevail even though isn't so common these days. Keep up the great work bud.
That is a bummer. It always amazes me that engines actually run for so long. The only thing keeping them going is a thin film of oil. No oil and bad thing happen quickly.
I discovered your channel in 2017. I've watched almost every video since. It has been clear from the beginning that for you, right is right. Right is the only way you do things. That's why I'm still watching. Well, and the stories you tell.
Don’t come down on yourself Warren.. it happens. It could have been pure coincidence..I’ve had situations wrenching on machines and something else happens and you immediately question your work. Sun will rise tomorrow pal..don’t sweat it, you’re a good guy.
People like u still give me hope for this country. Keep doing your thing man. What u have good sir is called integrity somthing people kno nothing about anymore. I'm sure you'll get this thing fixed and right
This was my concern when my ISX dropped a sleeve. A recon, a rebuild or find another engine. Too many bad reviews about recons although I would have been comfortable with one directly from Cummins but more than I wanted to spend. A rebuild I believe misses a few things. Found a low mileage used engine and installed it. Very happy with my choice!
Your doing the right thing Warren. I would do the exact same thing. You are a stand up guy my friend there are getting to be fewer of us in this world. Very few kids in the business have morals and conscience and I know you will loose sleep over it but don't. I thought you did a fantastic job and engines don't lie. Wasn't your fault. Take care !!!!
It doesn't make it any easier on the on you it is your customer i am only a subscriber and over the years i have been watching you work you are the mechanic i would have working on my vehicle because i know you will do the right thing by me unlike the big companies as you said it is all about the cash i hope for you that they accept responsibility for the job and cover you for you hours you worked on it Good luck Warren you are a dyeing honest business' man
Hey Warren, you gotta remember that when that short block was built a few months ago, every manufacturer was hurting for labor. So whatever pill head alcoholic they hired most likely forgot to install the other half of the piston bearings. Don't lose too much sleep over it, hopefully you can get your out of pocket costs out of the dealer (yeah right).
I can literally feel your stress coming from the screen. Don't beat yourself up man. I watched you change that out... well some of it. You did good and it ran the way it was supposed to. If it's in the short block that's on them.
No hard time given just keep your head up & all your hard work I agree on the bushings not being pressed in properly you can see it clear as day stay strong Mr W thank you for all you helpful videos 🤙
Having morals and ethics is a rare thing today. Standing by them and not just talking about them is even found less. I work in historic masonry and if my hydrated lime fails because I didn’t watch the temperatures and hydration… I stand by it. I know what it takes to make or break the project. I watch your channel because you are honest, I know you work yourself too hard. You have that guilt that many folks don’t have these days. You not only perform the job, but you pour yourself and your respect into it. The feeling of being sabotaged by inadequate components is infuriating but you stand by your work. That is why I watch. Thank you for making me feel a little less lonely when there is standard to be met.
We had early rod bushing failures after rebuilds in a few old 817 Internationals as used in the old TD25's. Talked to the retired old timer from the machine shop that had been doing the rod bushings and he immediately said "Bet they're just honing and aren't burnishing the new bushings". He went to the machine shop with us and informed them that the bushings in those big rods had to be burnished. He even showed them how to do it. Never had another early bushing failure. Not saying that's the problem in your Paccar but that's the experience I've had with failed rod bushings right after rebuild.
Hello Warren, you are the Iron man of USA, let us know the outcome of the reman short block, if Paccar refuse to honour what is clear to all your subscribers, we will let them know what the industry thinks of their workmanship, and more importantly, what they intend to do, to up the quality of their work. You are a first rate mechanic.
Morning warren I’ve been following you for a long time now and have just seen your latest video and man I am in Orr of your honesty and dedication and your high standards of commitment to your customers I just wish there were more people in the world like you God bless you Your channel is the best one on CZcams thank you all the very best to you and your family
Good luck Warren, I hope it works out in your favor! I have great respect for your integrity, and work ethic. I will be watching and praying that this situation has a positive outcome!
Honor among men is something that is not common these days. Warren you are an honorable man. You puppy is so cute. Glad she makes your life a bit better
Sorry to hear this story Warren. I would trust your work, honesty and integrity every time. I would want an independent person attending the strip down. If it turns out to be little ends it can't be down to your work. Good luck with this one.
I just want to say that i have only been watching for a short time, but you seem like a excellent mechanic to me and i'm absolutely sure that this isn't your fault, and i want to say that it gives me hope when i see people like you that still have the integrity to stand behind what they do, you are a credit to your chosen profession and keep up the good work.....p.s everything that you said about corporate greed is 100% on the mark.
Warren, You are a mans man! Watching you kick your own ass, shows us you are in a very small group of repair specialist, this is where I place you. Know you have a following that look up to you and your standards you set for yourself. Thank you, I so enjoy allowing us to look over your shoulder.
I'm looking forward to the update, will be interesting to see how the other company tries to wriggle out of replacing the engine, or will they do the right thing.
They might try but Warren has it pretty much covered. He already diagnosed the cause of the knocking. I’m still trying to figure out how you can put a wrist pin in so wrong.
Don't feel alone, you're not the only one that does it right. We specialize in repowering old Bluebird Wanderlodge motorhomes that came w/3208's. Replaced the air pump, belts, water pump, powersteering, extensive chassis work, sent the guy on his way. Got 300 miles down the road engine blew up. Inspection revealed air pump wasn't tight to the base and engine oil was lost. Found a low hour replacement from a firetruck and retrofitted. N/C to the customer and he made out, went from N/A to turbo charged example. Was glad to do it, and have happy customer.
You are exactly correct about corporations globally. I have worked maintenance/engineering tech positions at advanced levels and the things I have experienced and seen into trying to do the right things made me lose many nights sleep and question my values. Yes they do have these models of acceptable circumstances liabilities as part of the corporations cost of doing business and it started many centuries ago if think of the first world explorers/plunders in history, they have boiled this idea for so long it is being taught to existing folks that there is nothing to see here and move on... I am regretful Warren that you have to share in this experience yet again... Please take care!
Hey Warren from watching your channel we all can see you will absolutely do the right thing. I hope the SOB that sold ya the short block stand behind there work!
Watching your videos makes me not want to ever do a reman in anything,theres no quality anymore and if the block wasn’t broken you would have rebuilt it yourself,i have to hand it to you for always getting back up after your knocked down,love your channel stay strong
I worked for peterbilt Denton for 16 years....you are correct, it’s all about money. These trucks break on the assembly line and many are shipped with multiple known issues for the dealership to fix because it’s all about production numbers. They don’t care about customers or quality, that’s marketing’s problem.
Man, do you have to tear every reman down to nothing to double check their work? I can't imagine how upset you must be with another one of these. You're a good guy Warren
like you have said in the past things happen but its your time that is important sorting this out just puts you back on all your other jobs and even if you get compensated financially it ain't going to help you catch up on lost time keep up the good work and videos
Warren, Please stop being so hard on yourself for being Honest and Upstanding! You ARE a dead bread. You said it yourself Pride in a job well done is so gone! I only wish I was closer to your shop I would love to have someone I could trust to do the work on my equipment. I'm getting to the age were I don't want to tackle the big jobs anymore and don't really know what I'm going to do when my stuff breaks down now. Keep up the good honest work Mate!!!!!!
Your a good man Warren, my dad taught me right from wrong. He always told me your word and name means more than anything else in this world and he is right just as you are.
Keep your head up Warren!! Hopefully Paccar will stand behind it. My hat is off to you sir! I love watching your channel, I’ve been able to go back in your videos and usually find one about something I’m tearing into myself. If you were closer I’d come work for you. Spent all day today working on my gravel train to run tomorrow (we’re in Michigan).
So many dummies with the oil pump, rods and mains are going to go way before a small end on a rod, so STFU.
I was thinking that Warren. The only explanation was the one you gave. When they reconditioned the rods somebody fu_ed up installing the bushings . Only explanation. Fu__in sucks that the entire engine is fubar with brass particles everywhere. Plus the out of pocket for you plus the owner of the truck being down now. Sh__ deal all the way around
Lots of keyboard geniuses out there Warren. Sorry about you getting a faulty recon. What a kick in the rocks!
In the aviation world, at least with piston engines many say go with a manufacture reman. Truth is the workers there are just regular guys off the street making low pay with a manager overseeing. People shy away from their local mechanic rebuilding in favor of the manufacturer reman.
machine shops and reman shops shops DO screw the pooch........ALL THE TIME.
Plus fwiw, these engines have an excellent oil filter system with both a cartridge element, as well as a centrifuge spinner filter which is why they can safely run much longer oil change intervals over other mfgs. That centrifuge will get out more stuff than just a regular filter by itself. And that head should be fine to reuse because it doesn't have a cam in it (bearings), either. Good luck buddy 👍.
One thing that all of us know who've been watching your channel for a number of years is that when you make a mistake you're the first one to own up to it, and pay the consequences. It's who you are, and you have a proven track record.
Your a good man, very high standards we sure need more people like you Warren.....
We have lots of people like him but unfortunately there bosses pockets need lined and normally they override the mechanics recommendations. It's to bad it such a dog eat dog world.
Warren, I ain't Seen an Armored Car in a Funeral.procession Yet, just a casual thought 🤔
It’s good that Warren has video documentation of everything to do with this Paccar, it it’s got to be so demoralizing for all that work for nothing. I hope they take care of the driver for this under warranty.
hope they take care of Warren's work to!
I emailed Paccar corporate. It ain't much but you got to try and help a guy out.
We own a small family run heavy equipment repair business very similar to yours. We have been in business for the last 15 years. We try to rebuild everything we can ourselves but sometimes you're forced to use reman and it usually bites you every time. No one will stand behind anything anymore and it always becomes your problem. I have had to eat lots of time and money for parts just to make sure the customer is treated the way I would want to be.
No more remanufactured engines, dealer won't own up to anything. They don't call them stealership's for nothing. I can't be a negative Nancy, there's always a ray of hope. You do great work Warren and everyone knows it.
Warren dont worry man. i hope the dealer tells the truth here. You always do right my man.
Warren's honesty as shown in this video is 1 of the main reasons I love this channel, amongst many others.
Warren, you have pride in your work and integrity, still head and shoulders above most mechanics out there. I don’t see how you could have been responsible for rod bushings since you were not that deep in that motor repair. Paccar owes him a new motor and should compensate your extra work and time to make it right for the customer!
Now a days its really hard to find people with a
conscious . I always say we are who we are with our word. A man that cant own up to his mistake its no good. You are a very honest individual
Getting hard to find someone honest and wanting to do the right thing. Hope it all works out for you.
Yes… i would travel huge distance to deal with a person with a concience ….
@@karlsborgwi.jewell9919 Me to. I actually live in Idaho and am planning on taking my 68rfe transmission to Texas to have it built for the exact reason you said above. I want quality over cost. Sure it's going to cost me but that's why I am budgeting for it.
It's a machine brother. Mechanical stuff breaks. Don't kick yourself over it. Bottom line is your going above and beyond to make it right. I salute you for that.
That whole engine is basically trashed, a real shame after all that work. Your attention to detail is second to none. You do right by your customers, integrity and honesty are hard earned skills, that few people have anymore. Good luck to you and your customer, stick it to the man.
Never compromise your quality, and you you never run out of customers. I will pay a bit more to know my job is being done right, and they care about their workmanship. After 33 years as a self employed building contractor, I know exactly what that means. I refused to compromise my quality, and had customers waiting for me to be available at all times. I always used to say, if you want the job clowned up, you better hire some clowns, because I won’t do it. You are a man of honour Warren. Keep up the great work. Cheers from Canada
I have been watching your channel for 8 months now. I am in Canada. I own a business too.
You are honest, knowledgeable, caring, conscientious and professional. Sometimes we get dealt a bad hand and have to go beyond what we signed up for. Men vs boys…
I’m new diesel mechanic and I watch all the time. I’ve learned so much from watching your videos.
Hope it works out in your favour Warren
It’s horrible when shit like this happens
You didn’t put pistons or crank in it , how can it be your fault
and that's why 99% of us watch you mr. Warren is because you are a good man and you care about your customers and you do what's right God bless you and your family and the little baby puppy he's so cute
So hard to find integrity Warren. Thank you for showing us someone that cares... Quality and Accountability are both currently absent from this country..
You're absolutely right Warren!! It's all about the money!! They probably had some unqualified, underpaid, inexperienced hack machine/refurbish the rods, or they were missing the right reamer for the rod small end and just winged it!! Either way they were saving money, or so they thought!!! Since the other four seem okay, I'm of the suspicion that they forgot or accidentally skipped the last two!
It's comforting to know that there are still some people like you, that have some self respect and accountability! It's sadly lacking in the world today! We watched you assemble the engine and, we all know, did a damn good job, and we would have been proud to have accomplished such a job ourselves! I don't see how they could blame you for this!
Glad to see Josey is doing good. We have to cherish the good in life, and learn not to dwell in the bad. It's good to see you enjoying your new puppy! I also got a new puppy, and am having fun playing with him and loving on him! I have a feeling that "it's" going to get a lot worse, sooner than later; we better enjoy it while we can!!
Breath of fresh air sir. You humbled yourself before anything else. How’s it go? Pull the log out of your eye before you complain about the twig in theirs… Got yourself a subscriber! Great job sir.
All that damn work. just pisses you off. Glad you spotted it and documented it before it left your shop.
I like the new pup, please include her more.
Good day Yes that little puppy does help. Thanks
I believe your analysis is correct....incorrect bushing fit...led to walking...led to blocking oil supply hole....led to bushing failure....seems like a clear case of 'Progressive Failure'. Thanks for showing us the underside where the bushing movement is clear for all to see.
If you look at the first video on this motor at around 14:30 you can see oil tubes coming off a pipe pointed straight up the each cylinder. Likely no hole up through connecting rod to pin bushing.
Men like you are dying breed. I love love love your videos and the knowledge you possess. Keep up the good work 👍
How right you are, Warren! It's all about how cheap we can make it for the most profit. Engineers draw it up, and then it goes to the Bean Counters. Instead of six bolts, can't we just use four? And on it goes. We have become a throw-away society.
That really sucks man. You do great work, there’s no winners here .This stuff is why I went to work for a highway dept, where it’s easier to absorb something like this . Being the mechanic there we constantly deal with broken trucks ,most from salt damage, popped and broken crank sensors ,green wiring,and poor craftsmanship on the up fits we get .You are absolutely right no one cares anymore about quality of work or what’s right , it’s all about the money for sure.
I once saved my company more than $50k on just one small part. They couldn’t believe it and asked me how I knew to fix that. I said that I had gone to the warranty department and asked them what their biggest return was. We brainstormed a bit and devised a solution. Implemented the solution and went along our business. It really comes down to listening to your people, getting real feedback from your customers, and acting on it. Corporations build in a failure rate that they are ok with. If you buy a new car there has already been a decision made on how many deaths there will be and what it will cost. If it’s too high they’ll fix the problem. If not, send it. You’re simply a statistic folks.
Yep, you will never see a haul behind a hearse. Well I’m glad you found out what the problem was so at least you know what you did was good and correct. Have to respect a man that takes responsibility for his actions, your a great man Warren
Be sure and check the oil passage in the rod - we had a kit fail on a 149 Detroit one time - changed it out and that same hole failed again in short order.. pulled it down again and after looking everything over - found a broken drill bit left in the oil hole - the bit must have broken while being pulled out because the oil hole passed air just fine when we blew it out one the first replacement - everything is fine till you loaded it up on the load bank... one trick a really old guy taught me about checking an engine when load banking an engine - when your breaking it in let it idle every few minutes - if something is seizing the engine wont idle - the excessive drag will kill the engine when you come off high speed ... simple as that - saves throwing a rod and ruining a block from a mistake or rebuild issue
The world need more people like you professional's that stand behind their workmanship . 👍 And thats why you stay busy and others don't .
I always try to live my life the old school way, ( my handshake is my word), to me your a down to earth man Warren, keep going the way your going! Cheers.
100% you are a great man and no big time shop would bend over backwards like you do. That is why you have the customers you have. Hope the reman company steps up, if they do you need to make a video on that also. good company's need good publicity also. thanks for sharing
Integrity is not just a word in the dictionary. You are absolutely correct with today's "Business Model"! Any and everything to increase profit. No more family businesses. Corporate greed. It made my heart ache when I saw the short about the failure.
It is A breath of fresh air do you know they’re still honest men like yourself working hard to make things right I commend you!
The little end of the rod isn’t pressurized so oil pressure shouldn’t effect it
You seem like a great guy and I’m the same way
Stuff like this is why I don’t do mechanic work anymore
God Bless you sir
You are a special person. Doing things right are rare in today's world. I'm a machine shop and it's tough to get quality workmanship today. You keep up the good work I myself go through the same stuff.
I know what you are feeling i own a 2 bay automotive shop in a small town and i work 12 to 14 hrs a day even Sundays and I would do the same thing and feel the same way you do if you're like me I wouldn't be able to sleep because it would eat me up . You are doing the right thing taking care of your customers. Thanks
I think you are 100% right on it being an assembly mistake and I can't say I'm surprised. I own a small fleet of trucks with cat engines. In December I had to rebuild one and I always use genuine cat parts. I was lucky enough to find and buy a genuine cat platinum kit. The head was not a reman, it was brand new. It went together with no issues, and started up easy and had great oil pressure. During break in, it spun a cam bering. A couple of years ago on the rebuild of a B model cat, again with a NEW genuine cat head it lost a valve seat on an exhaust valve. Cat would not step up to pay for redoing work that their failure caused. Not to mention the poor quality of these pricy parts.
You are 100% right about corporations but for the individuals that did rebuild the reman there isn't any quality in their mechanics anymore they don't care anymore. Be proud you keep your standards high Warren
I agree, it comes down to the individual who rebuilt that engine, as well as the damn penny pinching corporate greed.
We used to get a butt load of cummins big cam heads from a supposed reputable rebuilder in town. When valve guides and seats started dropping out we found a new place quick..
Warren, you are one of the most HONEST guys that I have seen on here and you show your worth, you show your mistakes, you don't hide anything. You are literally a diamond in the rough when it comes to legit honesty and care when it comes to customers and the work you do. Never get down on yourself for Anything that has happened. You know what you all did, you know what you checked, and how careful you are. We ALL support you and will always continue to do so! If I lived closer, I would love to hop over and turn a wrench or 2 beside you. Have a good week and keep smiling!!!
You are the real deal man. Wish I had a mechanic around here like you. Hats off to ya. You are a stand up guy.
Bravo to you, my friend! I been there myself when I was still turning wrenches. That pride kicks in so you do your best to serve your customers. Many might disagree. You’re doing the right thing. Bless you.
We need more people like you that try to do the right thing. You are so right about people not caring any more.
I had a company that built and machined 3208 Cat Engines for us. All of the engines had rod problems because the rod bushings were machined out of square. They were sized correctly but something happened and they were not square. It took a lot of researching the parts that failed. Pistons scored the skirts because the pins were seizing up. We got it all fixed and after replacing a number of engines they found the problem. These guys were good to work with and stood behind the work. After 30 years it don't seem as big a problem as it was then. What I'm saying is, "people make mistakes"! At the end of the day just look back and say, " its all good and bad comes along sometimes"! Thanks for the videos, they are interesting.
All the best with it Warren, hope the dealer does the decent thing.
Keep us posted, thanks, Dave, Sheffield UK.
Ps, can’t see any one giving you a hard time, you are a fair decent guy.
Thanks for the update Warren. I agree with your initial diagnosis. Don’t see how anything you did from assembly of the parts onto a factory short block. If there was some issues in the oil pump, you would have had pressure issues and Main and rod bearing problems before the small end failures. If they didn’t line up the oil hole on the small end, that could have caused the issue as well. Thanks for sharing your time and videos. Glad to know someone else with a Conscience and Integrity.
Your a good man, honesty and integrity, a man' s word is still worth something. You will be vindicated if the the Dealer Shop Foreman is a man of his word. Keep doing what you are doing, I enjoy your channel, good luck and God Bless. You are correct on your observations of society /corporations chasing the dollar.
Keep your head up!! Its sad that the ONLY way that YOU know an engine has QUALITY workmanship put into it is if YOU do all of the work!! stay safe!!
Warren, this is why I enjoy watching your channel. You’re a dying breed. I love integrity.
I have already mentioned it Warren. Your name and reputation deserves better. You admit that you are not infallible, but I would trust you with any stuff I needed repaired.
In my opinion you would be better having as much absolute control over components that you can. If that means remanning your own stuff.
I think this video, like others you have done, illustrate that you are a man of honour.
I hope a whole bunch of good karma is headed your way.
You have integrity 👏 That’s a rarity today… I’m with you, stand by your work 🇺🇸
You are a good genuine person. I wish to god we had people like on this side of the country. Your knowledge, experience and honesty is becoming a thing of the past!! I have a bxs cat being overhauled, I gave the mechanic $15,000 to get going with it and I Will Not Hound him till it’s done! To many assholes are in a hurry and don’t care about the little guy!
I'm always blown away by some of the jobs you take on man, balls of steel 💯
I like the fact that you’re upfront about everything. There are not many people out there like you anymore. Keep up the good work Warren
That’s right, we got out the job because we were constantly undermined and undervalued. All that know how and experience taken away, who cares?, nobody.
Man Warren that situation sucks for everyone involved but you know you're an honest man and the video tape doesn't lie. Honesty and hardwork will prevail even though isn't so common these days. Keep up the great work bud.
That's why I feel so lucky to have found this channel. Warren also inspires me to maintain my little jalopy
That is a bummer. It always amazes me that engines actually run for so long. The only thing keeping them going is a thin film of oil. No oil and bad thing happen quickly.
I discovered your channel in 2017. I've watched almost every video since. It has been clear from the beginning that for you, right is right. Right is the only way you do things. That's why I'm still watching. Well, and the stories you tell.
Don’t come down on yourself Warren.. it happens. It could have been pure coincidence..I’ve had situations wrenching on machines and something else happens and you immediately question your work. Sun will rise tomorrow pal..don’t sweat it, you’re a good guy.
People like u still give me hope for this country. Keep doing your thing man. What u have good sir is called integrity somthing people kno nothing about anymore. I'm sure you'll get this thing fixed and right
This was my concern when my ISX dropped a sleeve. A recon, a rebuild or find another engine. Too many bad reviews about recons although I would have been comfortable with one directly from Cummins but more than I wanted to spend. A rebuild I believe misses a few things. Found a low mileage used engine and installed it. Very happy with my choice!
Your doing the right thing Warren. I would do the exact same thing. You are a stand up guy my friend there are getting to be fewer of us in this world. Very few kids in the business have morals and conscience and I know you will loose sleep over it but don't. I thought you did a fantastic job and engines don't lie. Wasn't your fault. Take care !!!!
It doesn't make it any easier on the on you it is your customer i am only a subscriber and over the years i have been watching you work you are the mechanic i would have working on my vehicle because i know you will do the right thing by me unlike the big companies as you said it is all about the cash i hope for you that they accept responsibility for the job and cover you for you hours you worked on it Good luck Warren you are a dyeing honest business' man
Warran ,you got to be one of the most honest men I ever knew.I know you will do the right thing and yes they make crappy parts now
Hey Warren, you gotta remember that when that short block was built a few months ago, every manufacturer was hurting for labor. So whatever pill head alcoholic they hired most likely forgot to install the other half of the piston bearings. Don't lose too much sleep over it, hopefully you can get your out of pocket costs out of the dealer (yeah right).
You and Warren need to team up cob 👍🍻
This world needs more people like yourself but unfortunately there is not. Keep up the awesome videos. Thanks for all that you do and show.
I hope your customers watch your videos. You are a hard working honest man from what I have seen.
I can literally feel your stress coming from the screen. Don't beat yourself up man. I watched you change that out... well some of it. You did good and it ran the way it was supposed to. If it's in the short block that's on them.
Thank you for the update, keep with your standards and be proud of yourself for doing the best job you can do.
you do excellent work warren, i have learned alot from your videos, its gotten very hard to find someone with your integrity and honesty
How many times can a good man get worked over without lose his faith in other people. You have the patience of a saint. I would be homicidal by now.
You will have no worry Warren with that engine.Warren you are a fantastic mechanic.
No hard time given just keep your head up & all your hard work I agree on the bushings not being pressed in properly you can see it clear as day stay strong Mr W thank you for all you helpful videos 🤙
Having morals and ethics is a rare thing today. Standing by them and not just talking about them is even found less. I work in historic masonry and if my hydrated lime fails because I didn’t watch the temperatures and hydration… I stand by it. I know what it takes to make or break the project. I watch your channel because you are honest, I know you work yourself too hard. You have that guilt that many folks don’t have these days. You not only perform the job, but you pour yourself and your respect into it. The feeling of being sabotaged by inadequate components is infuriating but you stand by your work. That is why I watch. Thank you for making me feel a little less lonely when there is standard to be met.
We had early rod bushing failures after rebuilds in a few old 817 Internationals as used in the old TD25's. Talked to the retired old timer from the machine shop that had been doing the rod bushings and he immediately said "Bet they're just honing and aren't burnishing the new bushings". He went to the machine shop with us and informed them that the bushings in those big rods had to be burnished. He even showed them how to do it. Never had another early bushing failure. Not saying that's the problem in your Paccar but that's the experience I've had with failed rod bushings right after rebuild.
Hello Warren, you are the Iron man of USA, let us know the outcome of the reman short block, if Paccar refuse to honour what is clear to all your subscribers, we will let them know what the industry thinks of their workmanship, and more importantly, what they intend to do, to up the quality of their work. You are a first rate mechanic.
Morning warren I’ve been following you for a long time now and have just seen your latest video and man I am in Orr of your honesty and dedication and your high standards of commitment to your customers I just wish there were more people in the world like you
God bless you
Your channel is the best one on CZcams thank you all the very best to you and your family
Good luck Warren, I hope it works out in your favor! I have great respect for your integrity, and work ethic. I will be watching and praying that this situation has a positive outcome!
You have integrity, not to many people nowadays have ..Good luck
Honor among men is something that is not common these days. Warren you are an honorable man. You puppy is so cute. Glad she makes your life a bit better
Sorry to hear this story Warren. I would trust your work, honesty and integrity every time. I would want an independent person attending the strip down. If it turns out to be little ends it can't be down to your work. Good luck with this one.
I just want to say that i have only been watching for a short time, but you seem like a excellent mechanic to me and i'm absolutely sure that this isn't your fault, and i want to say that it gives me hope when i see people like you that still have the integrity to stand behind what they do, you are a credit to your chosen profession and keep up the good work.....p.s everything that you said about corporate greed is 100% on the mark.
Warren, You are a mans man! Watching you kick your own ass, shows us you are in a very small group of repair specialist, this is where I place you. Know you have a following that look up to you and your standards you set for yourself. Thank you, I so enjoy allowing us to look over your shoulder.
I'm looking forward to the update, will be interesting to see how the other company tries to wriggle out of replacing the engine, or will they do the right thing.
They might try but Warren has it pretty much covered. He already diagnosed the cause of the knocking. I’m still trying to figure out how you can put a wrist pin in so wrong.
Don't feel alone, you're not the only one that does it right. We specialize in repowering old Bluebird Wanderlodge motorhomes that came w/3208's. Replaced the air pump, belts, water pump, powersteering, extensive chassis work, sent the guy on his way. Got 300 miles down the road engine blew up.
Inspection revealed air pump wasn't tight to the base and engine oil was lost. Found a low hour replacement from a firetruck and retrofitted. N/C to the customer and he made out, went from N/A to turbo charged example. Was glad to do it, and have happy customer.
You are exactly correct about corporations globally. I have worked maintenance/engineering tech positions at advanced levels and the things I have experienced and seen into trying to do the right things made me lose many nights sleep and question my values.
Yes they do have these models of acceptable circumstances liabilities as part of the corporations cost of doing business and it started many centuries ago if think of the first world explorers/plunders in history, they have boiled this idea for so long it is being taught to existing folks that there is nothing to see here and move on...
I am regretful Warren that you have to share in this experience yet again...
Please take care!
Hey Warren from watching your channel we all can see you will absolutely do the right thing. I hope the SOB that sold ya the short block stand behind there work!
I had a feeling that was going to happen when you said it was reman good luck on getting warranty 👍🏻🇺🇸
Watching your videos makes me not want to ever do a reman in anything,theres no quality anymore and if the block wasn’t broken you would have rebuilt it yourself,i have to hand it to you for always getting back up after your knocked down,love your channel stay strong
I worked for peterbilt Denton for 16 years....you are correct, it’s all about money. These trucks break on the assembly line and many are shipped with multiple known issues for the dealership to fix because it’s all about production numbers. They don’t care about customers or quality, that’s marketing’s problem.
You’re a good man brother, few and far between these days.
Man, do you have to tear every reman down to nothing to double check their work? I can't imagine how upset you must be with another one of these. You're a good guy Warren
Very sorry to hear this problem. Keep moving forward. Not backward......
like you have said in the past things happen but its your time that is important sorting this out just puts you back on all your other jobs and even if you get compensated financially it ain't going to help you catch up on lost time keep up the good work and videos
Warren, Please stop being so hard on yourself for being Honest and Upstanding! You ARE a dead bread. You said it yourself Pride in a job well done is so gone! I only wish I was closer to your shop I would love to have someone I could trust to do the work on my equipment. I'm getting to the age were I don't want to tackle the big jobs anymore and don't really know what I'm going to do when my stuff breaks down now. Keep up the good honest work Mate!!!!!!
Your a good man Warren, my dad taught me right from wrong. He always told me your word and name means more than anything else in this world and he is right just as you are.
You do the best you can. Work done by others is out of your control. We believe in what you do and the quality of work that is completed.
Keep your head up Warren!! Hopefully Paccar will stand behind it. My hat is off to you sir! I love watching your channel, I’ve been able to go back in your videos and usually find one about something I’m tearing into myself. If you were closer I’d come work for you. Spent all day today working on my gravel train to run tomorrow (we’re in Michigan).
Hey Mr warren don't let it get u down u are a very honest person and a damn good mechanic keep the videos coming