The Universe Points to a Trinitarian God! | Tyler - MSl | Talk Heathen 04.11
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"It's beyond our understanding, but I understand it" - Tyler
Exactly , facepalm
Daniel Benson Excellent!
That's Christianity
Love the Power Ranger analogy. Did the caller realize at all that he was being mocked by Eric?
@@mobilegamersunite Absolutely love ice cream, you must be right.
"If you showed me I was wrong, it would strenghten my faith." Ironic that he admitted he was arguing in bad faith.
Me: Okay, bye!
@Never-ending party What a load of bullshit logic.
Your logic potential is infinite because right now it's near zero.
If I grant you 1 2 and 3 then
In 4 you need to add "it mustn't be a Trinity".
You can't even follow your own Logic or doctrine.
6. Is just false on its own without any of the other points.
You couldn't even prove that a man named Jesus ever walked this Earth let alone was anything else than a doomsday preacher and Jewish blasphemer
@Never-ending party age of universe 13.7 billion years not the 6,020 the bible claims without going in 2 the other factual errors in the bible we know its fiction obviously...o there was never 1 person either so your comment terminates itself, p.s. maybe life's a gullibility test so the crew r sittin pretty and your screwed, lol...
@Never-ending party - Hold it, dumbass. First you said, "there is only one true God and he is Jehovah of the Bible". Then you said, "Jesus is the only God w/ an empty tomb, the only God resurrected as our savoir,....". So which is it, is Jehovah God or is Jesus God? Are they the same person? Then what did Jehovah/Jesus actually sacrifice since he is God? How did God go to Hell for 3 days?! Also, please provide evidence that there was an actual empty tomb for Jesus. Hell, prove Jesus actually existed FIRST and that he was God, the son of God or a distant cousin of God. How does someone sacrificing themself redeem someone else's sins?! First, if I "sin" against someone else how does this involve God and why does God get to decide if I am forgiven and that is granting that your God is even real?! Seriously, you clearly haven't thought about any of this stuff and are instead just spouting the nonsense you were indoctrinated with.
@Never-ending party - Also, you clearly didn't read The Grand Design because the book argues that God is not necessary to explain the origins of the universe and that the Big Bang is a consequence of the laws of physics alone. Also, we can't see past the Big Bang so our universe MIGHT have had a beginning but that doesn't mean that we aren't part of a multiverse or if our universe is infinite. Instead of quote mining from Hawking that you found from some apologist site, perhaps you should try actually reading the book instead of simply taking one sentence from it. Clearly you are just copying and pasting your comment from a script. Perhaps you should try doing the research you accuse others of not doing instead of just going off your mindless script?!
"We don't need energy, because it doesn't fit with my post hoc rationalization"
Tyler B #2 Your argument is flawed and ridiculous as Eric and Vi pointed, so this will probably fall on deaf ears, but using your own assertion that energy is not a separate, distinct element of the universe, but instead is a part of matter (not completely correct, but close enough for argument sake that I’ll give this one to you) then you have to accept that space and time are not two separate things either just as Einstein illustrated... it’s spacetime. So now you’re down to just 2 components: matter/energy and spacetime. So I guess we’d better ditch either the father, the son or the holy ghost and take it down to just 2 entities to fit your bizarre view of the universe. I’m trying my best not to sound too condescending, but you should really try reading a book about science and the nature of the universe before positing ridiculous conjecture about it. And after you read a book, you really should watch a movie, namely The Matrix, “Mr. I was Born After They Came Out”, because it’s really a bad ass trilogy. Oh shit I probably just gave you further evidence for your trinity didn’t I? Damn! 🤣
Matter can not exist without energy is analogous to how time can not exist without space.
Energy and matter are not distinct from each other.
Space and time are not distinct from each other ether. You can NOT exist somewhere without existing some when - just as you can NOT exist some when without existing somewhere.
Also, 3 cannot be 1 as 1 cannot be 3, otherwise all math fails to be rational.
@@kirksatterwhite2473
Matter and energy are the same thing in different states, we've known this since the double slit experiment showed that light can behave as both a wave (energy) and a particle (matter).
And yes, space and time aren't any more distinct than that; they're different parts of one thing, spacetime.
So unless there's some nebulous part of the universe that hasn't been documented yet, our existence has 2 parts to it: energy and spacetime.
@Tyler B #2 Its also time/space, not time and space. If you say we can't separate energy and matter, than you can't separate time and space. So it still doesn't fit with his post hoc rationalization.
@@antitheist3206 Actually we've known that matter and energy is the same thing since Einstein wrote his rather famous equation. He initially wrote it in the form of M = E/C*2.
The double slit experiment has nothing to do with it. The wavefunction is not representing energy, it's just all the possibilities where the "particle" is. There are two main classification of particles; bosons ("energy" or force carriers) like the photon and fermions ("matter") like the electron. All "particles" behave the same way in the double slit experiment, it doesn't matter if they are bosons or fermions. Bosons do not turn into fermions when the wavefunction collapses - a boson is a boson, be it a wave or a "particle"
"It's not that I'm wrong, it's that I don't understand it so therefore I am right."
This video is a clear example of the saying: "Never argue with a fool. They will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience"
Or their fist......
The irony of Tyler calling anyone willfully ignorant is hilarious.
he may just be one of the dumbest shits around.
“God can’t fit into our three pound brain.”
“Btw. Let me tell you all about him.”
Tyler B #2 what does that mean? How do you even know if you’re “comprehending” him? If he's too big for your brain, then how could you possibly comprehend him? Don't you comprejend by using your brain?
@Tyler B #2 dude you can't even grasp the fact that energy is necessary to a universe. Big yawn to your claims of understanding hahaha
Especially not a 3 essenced one that would be one essence per pound. So unfair
...about him..... in excruciating detail.
@Tyler B #2 BTW your God not only condones slavery: your God legislated slave beating. Exodus 21: 20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property". Additionally, Paul sent a slave back to his master. Wake up little puppy!
In the first two minutes Tyler proved to be one of the great comedians of our time. When Eric asked what would happen to Tyler’s faith if Eric could demonstrate that the trinity cannot possibly exist he actually said that disproof would strengthen his faith. There are few comedians, not even George Carlin, could come up with a comeback like that. Pure comedy gold. He made my stomach hurt from laughing, but then I realised that he probably votes, and that took all the funny out of his statement.
I wouldn't call it being a comedian, more of a jester
Edelwise Or clown.
I don’t know if you know l
Caller: 2+2=5
Hosts: And what if I proved it was 4, how would that change your understanding of math?
C: It would prove I'm right, and that math is infinite and too complicated for our little brains.
H: You have 2 apples, I give you 2 more. How many apples do you have?
C: 5
H: could you count them?
C: ok, 1, 2, 3, 4
H: and what does that tell you
C: that I was right all along. Math is complex, the universe is infinite, and I'm gonna kill Jed for stealing my 5th apple.
you should have said 1+1+1=1 lol
Tyler is an elegant example of how religion turns human minds to dogshit.
And not even slowly over time either
This guy is younger than the Matrix movies
The Power Rangers are not 3 and 1 coming to gather instantaneously....... but the six constructicons can come together instantaneously to form Devastator, therefore Megatron!
Karl Schneider even dogshit ain’t as stupid as this guy
Caller: "The Power Rangers are not three-in-one coming together"
Me: "Uhm, Megazord..."
He just doesn't understand it....oh wait does that mean megazord is god??? I think I did something damn!
He is right. Most Power Rangers operate in groups of 5.
Actually, god must be trinitarian because Andromeda in the television series Andromeda is three in one, the ship, the ship made flesh, and the holographic projection of the ship.
@@Robeebert Ninja Storm started with a team of three power rangers. More joined later in the season, but the first few episodes is just the three.
@@namjoonssexybrain1679 I did use the qualifier "most." And I'm glad they got their act together and helped, uh, "Prove God."
When you snap a stick of spaghetti, it breaks into 3 segments. Three trinary aspects of the whole.
May ye be touched by his noodley appendages today.
R'Amen
I have one pasta. Its spaghetti, linguine and penne all in one noodle. Three pastas in one noodle. Triune pasta
And yea, verily i say unto thee, did not the grocery store prophecy that the Rontini that comes in tomato, spinach, and regular would be one sale this week. And it is so.
Pastallelujah
May all my fellow Pastafarians be blessed with garlic & annointed with olive oil. (Extra virgin, of course!) 🍝
I assume his god travels on a tricycle.
Paul LaNoue exactly
Paul LaNoue: That was a excellent comment!
And you should see his triceps!
nope he would have evidence that was beyond our understanding that his god rides 3 unicycles at the same time.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Eric: Do you remember the Matrix movies?
Tyler: No, I was born after they came out.
WTF? I was born after Casablanca, but I have watched it and remembered it.
Logic is not Tyler's strong suit, so I'm not surprised that came out of his mouth.
Tyler, you were born after the bible was written. So...wait, never mind. I'm sure that just strengthens your faith.
The matrix films aren't in the bible, this Tyler doesn't need to have watched or remember them.
During this entire conversation, all I could picture is Hank Hill selling propane.
Just Wood and propane accessories.
I tell you what.
I'd rather have Hank as a neighbor than this moron. He's more like bill. Bills an idiot.
and propane accessories.
@@TheAmusingOddities Be nice to Bill, he doesn't pretend to have extranatural knowledge.
Tyler is one of those people that has been trapped in a cage of ignorance for so long ; until even when the door is opened he refuse to come out..
Premise 1: “A lack of understanding God proves that God exists and is impossible to understand.”
Premise 2: “Tyler lacks an understanding of Eric”
Conclusion: Therefore, Eric exists and is Tyler’s God.
like wooah man 🤯
I'd consider that a non sequitur. I suggest you brush up your philosophical skills before attempting to seem like a witty nerd again.
Eric is God. He even has a book saying so. And he wrote it so can confirm that it's telling the truth.
@Azazel Dreciare
No I got it was a joke, but crappy jokes are still crappy. A decent comedian could have made a similar joke where at least the argument was logic (not necessarily sound) and then it would be funny.
But since I take it you don't even know about the difference between an argument being logic and an argument being sound (as few people turn out to do), I'll just stick to: go r/woosh yourself.
@@BlacksmithTWD I say that the faux syllogism is adequately analogous to the reasoning most people do when confronted with actually having to map out what they think about the world. And of course it's a non sequitur. Most of apologetics seems to fall into a precious few categories of fallacy. Just my two pieces of currency after all of this time has passed us by.
I am still trying to figure out how the universe works without energy.
I stop taking him serious when he said that. He's living proof that you can read and not comprehend.
How do you get matter without energy in the first place? How does the universe function or continue to exist without energy? Are space and time really two discrete things or should we consider them as spacetime?
E=mc^2: energy and matter are co-dependent, you cannot have one without the other. This guy needs to learn some real science and math rather than reading an ancient work of fiction.
@@LenaLangton yes. We all learned that in physics class.
lock him in a room with a bbq stove, a bag of charcoal and some nice steak without a lighter... he'll soon realize energy is absolutely relevant in the universe when he stares at the steak for days.....
"you can have a car without a steering wheel, it just won't work"
Then how is a steering wheel not an essential component of a car?
_Exactly!_ You could just as easily say "You can have a universe without matter, it just won't work". It's nonsense.
This reminds me of a youtube video of a guy steering with an adjustable wrench instead of a steering wheel.
Just so everyone knows, energy is absolutely necessary for the universe to exist.
"There's just too much proof."
Wow, absolutely amazing how people can be programmed by experts.
@Never-ending party Funny how you are trying to prove something by quoting people who actually did not believe in that thing. :)
Btw, just because this local representation of the universe had a beginning, it doesn't mean what existed prior the big bang, did not exist in some form. Just like your person started to begin at your conception however everything you are made of already existed in other forms. Or a chair, made of wood to keep it simpler.
It's really just appealing to a mystery to solve another mystery. And the biblical god is really an infantile attempt to explain anything.
@Never-ending party and yet, before Judaism and christianity, there were resurrection stories, flood stories, creation stories and many, many similar stories that your story book has. It's obvious that you've done no research into other religions to see that the Christian narrative is not unique. What you have is fantasy and your God has given you nothing but assertions and claims to give and nothing valid to show his existence. You need to have a pow wow with that deity to see how he could have done such a thing. He's given us this logic and reason to break down fallcious ideologies and narratives that don't follow and he expects us to throw that away and follow blindly?! LMAO! That's pretty pathetic. Pray on it and see if he can give you a solid reason as to why he's vague and ambiguous. As much as you've cut and pasted, not a single scientist who invested their lives in this issue of the big bang and evolution has made the claim or has suggested some Devine hand. That's the misconception Christians have. Not scientists.
It's funny that atheists know the bible more than Christians do. We're more realistic in its context, origin and meaning and it offends those who have been indoctrinated. You're indoctrinated. It's sad that you got mentally abused into believing there is some deity who can do anything man can't yet can't do anything man can. smh...
@Never-ending party "The impossibility of infinite regress proves our infinite G0D:" Here's how you avoid infinite regress, say, "there is no problem with an infinite regress unless you make it a problem." You seem to have no problem saying that god is infinite. You can just as easily say that the Universe is infinite. SPECIAL PLEADING doesn't define your God into existence.
@Never-ending party i am not trying to prove a finite universe. Are you daft? Why are you saying you debunked what I did not say? I am just saying you haven’t proven your assertions. Or claims.
@Never-ending party I’ll just leave you alone to talk to who ever you are talking to. It isn’t me as you keep saying things I didn’t say.
" I was just proving the existence of the god of the bible." Ya know, just a simple Wednesday afternoon for our boy Tyler.
Ya mean gaaawd.
“Energy is not an essential component of the universe.” 🙄
Unplug your cell phone and empty your car of gas. Energy is an essential component for you to make a call.
Not only that but based on knowledge that we currently have, matter is energy. So his logic is even more nonsensical
@@dariusnoname12
If there were no energy there'd be no universe period. Matter is just a state of energy.
@@guytheincognito4186 I know that.
@@dariusnoname12
Yup. I was just reinforcing it. Lol
Energy is the first element of the universe
This guy is hilarious!! Tyler: "You are just being wilfully ignorant of this OBVIOUS truth." Too many laughs!!!
This guy is killing me lmao. Btw, I would love to listen to an audio book recorded by Eric
"The universe can't exist without"... this assertion seems... silly to me. We only know of one universe, and it exists as is, without any prerequisites (as far as I know).
The universe is composed of time, space, matter and energy. Let me count those...mmm FOUR!
Power Ranger analogy in argument 1. Well played, sir. well played. Reductio ad absurdum at its finest!
It's a shitty analogy, though. What is analogous to the Power Grid, the thing Trinity taps into transform into the Might Morphin' Father, son & Spirit?
'What' are they in their pre-transformation states? Jesus I understand, he just turns into some normal guy, i.e. regular dead dude, so how could he even Morph? Spirit probably has a big percentile reduction on max mana and spell power and the Spirit to how often they can make people fake faint in religious ceremonies.
This guy stole money from me, and if he can prove me wrong that means I'm even more right.
When he claimed that energy isn't an essential component of the universe I laughed so I hurt my back.
Of all the bad rationalizations I've heard on this show, that one takes the cake.
Edit: And the way he constantly completely refused to acknowledge ANY of your arguments, or even acknowledge the fact that he POSSIBLY could be wrong about anything.... Amazing.
I love the fact that Eric made a reference to the Power Rangers. 😎
profile pic checks out
@@lyndonbauer1703 Exactly. Thanks for noticing my profile pic. Although I bet my comment made it even more obvious. Lol 🤣😎👍
Gravity, electromagnetism, stong nuclear force and weak nuclear force.
There, which one of these is not necessary to the universe?
It is impossible to have a conversation with someone who is this dishonest.
It is also impossible to have a conversation between two people who don't speak each others language, not dishonesty needed.
More like indoctrinated.
These people vote in America. 😢
"You don't need energy"
Well, energy and matter are inextricably linked, without energy there's no change, and so time has no more meaning.... I think energy is quite important
energy cannot be created nor destroyed..... same as his god
@@fatdoi003 Energy can be created and destroyed.
@@bencrossley647 oh... How so?
@@fatdoi003 The law of conservatio of energy has the prerequisite of a flat-unbending spacetime. For most applications we can make this assumption and nothing changes.
However, consider a photon travelling through outer space. It's energy is given by E = hf.
As space expands a type of Doppler shift occurs. Causing the frequency to change in this equation. This reduces the energy of the photon through no physical process other than spacetime itself changing. Thu energy is not conserved.
@@bencrossley647 Couldn’t you just say that the process of space time expanding uses that energy ? Or in other word that energy is transferred, not destroyed ?
Believing something is beyond your understanding, is the best way to insure it remains beyond your understanding.
Hearing all these people.... I now understand why so many people can become rich.
Come up with a Semi-solid Idea, and then have these types buy into it.
Tyler is like 20 and therefore knows everything.
“The God of the Gaps” - Neal deGrasse Tyson…….wha ever we cannot understand, there is the hand of god. Until science explains it and then god moves on again
"the god of the gaps" is the god that Dawkins doesn't believe in, unlike the Christian god which is believed by Christians. First provide proof that those two are identical before asserting the Christian god doesn't exist based on this evidence.
"A thing is what it is, it's not what it's not, and it can't be what it is, and what it isn't, at the same time"
That is truly a beautiful way of explaining it. very simple, wish I thought of that phrasing... but still, awesome! :)
When the 3 wise men visited Jesus at 3 am they had 3 gifts.
3 x 3 x 3 = 27 and there are 27 books in the New Testament !
It's a miracle !
"The firmament is just the atmosphere, actually" (Tyler)
"God called the firmament Heaven" actually ! (Genesis 1:8)
So who is right ? Tyler or God ?
Sophie's Choice.
God is kinda like that 3 headed white dragon from YuGiOh
blue eyes ultimate dragon. (but god is less impressive)
Hey you! Yeah you! The one scrolling the comments.
Have a wonderful day. 😊
Good work. You might wanna remember that matter IS energy.
If I had to pick a god, I'd pick Zeus.... Lighting bolts, Thunder, Lived on Mount Olympus, ... definitely the #1 god
I would choose Azathoth! Freaky!
I'm parcel to the Nordic, Thor and crew.
@@lhurst9550 _Parcel_
oh god lol
@Hillary's emails to Lorne Did you know Jesus was originally based on Zeus' son, Apollo?
@@ALTDOK667 Yep, you got me. Did not double check that one..... LOL on me.
He throws in "we are broken". I lived with that for years and years. They stole my being...made me feel unworthy.
I'm very sorry to hear that. How are you doing nowadays though?
I’m the one that dislikes because I’m am so sorry they did that to you
I love it when people say that God of the Bible is to difficult to understand but yet they seem to understand this
This book is the Conman's handbook. There is a chapter to sell every bridge, an answer to every question and justification for every situation good or bad.
Lmfao!....Tyler: "i was born after the Matrix"
Don't need energy lmao! Matt would have had a trip with this guy.
I could listen to VI all day looonngg.
Tyler is a true Christian: sanctimonious, patronizing, self-righteous, water-proofed against evidence and 100% logic devoided
16 seconds in he says "points to a...." and then the "I promise" bible stage. Yawn Idiocy. So Flocked.
blithering bible bantering. Call the BBB!
Major cognitive dissonance!
Ah bahleev it is beyond are unnerstandin but will proceed to explain how eye unnerstand it.
Thanks Forrest 👍
Dear Tyler, that nice Mr Einstein from number twelve reckons that the universe is full of energy, and it can never be created or destroyed. He even reckons that matter is just a concentrated firm of energy.
Theists love coincidences. Except they don't see them as that.
What about energy? If I add energy to the list do I prove that a quadratarian god exists?
How are matter and energy interchangeable? Matter is anything that occupies space and has mass. And energy is the capacity to do work. I don’t see how those concepts are interchangeable with one another
also somebody might want to let him know that space and time are not really two different things like he wants, they are very intertwined, and they are also intertwined with velocity as well. so this guy is a polytheist
@BookkeeperBill Sure, lets just throw away the whole c squared part "because, like, what the fuck ever dude"
@BookkeeperBill he is trying to out dumb Tyler as far as I can tell
@Never-ending party What crated god? Warning! If you say nothing did or he didn't need one then you are arguing with a fallacy called Special Pleading. Also these "arguments" of yours are super basic and pretty much the first thing an atheists deals with. Got anything that lacks a fallacy?
I love this.
"What would you do if I could show you that your concept is demonstrably wrong?"
" it would make my faith stronger! "
Ok.
We can't draw A conclusion. We draw MANY conclusions
Hey Tyler, Are you going to call in next week? :) Im down! Im gonna have more topics to discuss on Talk Heathen and it will knock their socks off! ;)
@Tyler B #2 By the way, If you want to talk more about the bible, We should have a discussion sometime on Skype, Facebook Messenger or Zoom Video Meeting if thats okay with you.
@Tyler B #2 Yes i am serious. I am a Young Earth Creationist and a Bible Believing Christian. There aren't much people from asia calling into Talk Heathen but i know Mr Intelligent Design or Mr ID in short from Japan is one of them. I call into the show with other tabs open in google chrome to explain to Eric and Vi what im talking about.
Its time for someone in the East to intervene :D
Just a bit of advice, don't. Every time someone comes up with some insane hypothesis based on inductive reasoning, it winds up being crushed. No, that's not actually jesus on toast.
Please guys, don't stop! XD
Someone doesnt know about antimatter and the higgs boson.
anti-matter is clearly the devil.....
Best opening reply ever
We know the earth rests on pillars (First Samuel 2:8 Job 9:6 and Psalm 75:3)
which points to the fact that scientists don't know what they are talking about.
The only problem is :- On what are the pillars resting ?
My theory is the god of Israel has a very big left hand.
Hahaha that ending was great man
'Elohim' is plural, yes, and it also refers to 'El', the chief 'god' of the Canaanite pantheon. El had many sub-gods/territorial chiefs, many of them called Bael-something, such as Bael-zebub. In fact El was a god-king or god-dictator. 'Elohim' can best be understood as 'Family of El'. When the 'god of the jews' said "I am Elohim, my name is Yahweh", he is saying that he belongs to the family of El and he then becomes the god-dictator of the Jews. ie El and Yahweh were humans that were tribal chiefs/dictators.
That explains the biblical genocide and all the death dealt to people out side of the Jewish nation in that era. LOL!
@@franktherealist481 @"death dealt to people out side of the Jewish nation"
Not only outside the Jewish nation but 3000 Hebrew were slaughtered when Moses brought down the 10 commandments.
@@richardplinston9488 Moses was a mythical character that even rhabinical historians admit to. Sorry, but you have nothing showing the validity or justification to promote that book as anything other than just a story book. It's telling how much you'll try to push bible narrative as fact when there's very little fact in it that can be corroborated out side the bible. There are some people who existed and corroborated historically as are the places but the stories associated with them? History says another thing beyond the bible narrative. Again, I don't believe in God or gods of any kind where you, as a Christian, could possibly demonstrate that what you believe is true. I devoted 15 years of study and research to this in order to find answers. I was a believer when I started this journey. The bible helped me out of religion. Like it or not, my adventures in learning all this has made me a skeptic and unless you have clear and justified, reasonable evidence that suggests that God exists and that the bible is true, you have nothing to offer.all you're doing is parroting the same narrative everyone else in your religion has done.
I know every verse, every bit of nuance and apologetics given to this book. What's funny is that you all have different definitions of what a single verse means and don't even agree with each other. When you all get together and co.e to an agreement, we can talk.
Keep trying, though. You'll open your eyes to facts soon enough.
@@franktherealist481 You are a moron that cannot read. It should have been obvious from my: " El and Yahweh were humans that were tribal chiefs/dictators" that I am not a christian nor am I promoting the bible.
When i came across that i thought it made so much sense that i could hardly believe it, because in grew up jehovah's witness and we never ever considered or researched anything like that. I very much think that the original jehovah was actually a fictitious dude, not a god, and got turned into a god, like jesus did.
The four forces of nature, gravity, electromagnetism, strong force and the weak force makes everything.
There is a hypothesis for a 5th fundamental force that is being researched from what I heard.
I actually burst out laughing when he proposed his explanation for the universe and god.
People like Tyler is why home schooling needs to be heavily regulated.
My dog has got 18 toes, therefore there are 18 persons in one god.
Why is that mostly Southerners call in?
The Power Ranger analogy 🤣🤣🤣 everytime I watch I think he can't get nerdier 😘😘😘
I wish I had been on that panel! For several years before leaving the faith altogether, I was a Unitarian Christian. The Father is God, Jesus is not. Eric and Vi did a great job, but there was so much more they could've gotten into on this subject.
No Tyler. You havent proved the god of the bible. Pls try again.
The four horsemen of the Apocalypse were the Beatles
And the breastplates are their guitars.
It's obvious man !
Weed.
@IVAN KRAWEC
As the angels said to Jesus, "RISE"
They wanted him to start Helter Skelter
Should've used a captain planet reference Eric lol
I have never laughed out loud so hard at a caller. What has our educational system done?
I'll bet this guy has never done even one science class.
The more wrong you show me to be, the more correct I am. That's an incredible stance.
I enjoyed Tyler's tap dancing towards the end
I used to come to this channel just for Matt--love Dilohunty--but I really like everyone now!
I tried arguing with one of my dogs about running into the street. He just kept repeating himself just like this caller.
I grew up Catholic and the best way I was able to explain the trinity to other people was that it's the same god, but depending on the situation you'll see him through different lenses. The catechism (a book you should read if you'll debate a Catholic) says that it's helpful to sometimes describe these as avatars of the same god, especially if you're speaking with someone who comes from Eastern disciplines like Hindu where some of their gods have avatars. Hope that helps anyone who's confused about where this guy is coming from.
"The universe is composed of the trinity of time, space and matter.." I would argue that you could add energy to that mix, breaking the trinity. If anyone argues back that Einstein proved that matter and energy are the same thing then I would use the same equation to argue that so are time and space the same thing - breaking the trinity again.
"too much proof"
i'm dying
Firmament is the atmosphere? Where is the water supposed to be above it?
Funniest thing just happened.
I was listening to this as I was driving to a client today, when I suddenly saw a work van with the company artwork and name which was "Trinity Solar" 🤣 as I was listening.
Had it been a theist in my shoes they surely would have seen it as a divine sign from above.
Me: Oh, yay... Tyler’s back
I feel Vi's expressions through this whole call
I can give you a precise analogy: The Hindu trinity of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. In the ancient world, gods were routinely split or merged or identified to reflect changes in their understanding of the forces of nature. They had more poetic sensibilities than we do today. When you try to to understand poetry with the intellect you get these sorts on conundrums.
That's a bit oversimplified but that's the gist of it.
The time ranger, the space ranger and the matter ranger.
Damn, that would be an epic show or comic series!
"the power rangers are not three in one coming together instantaneously"
I see somebody hasn't watched the shows and seen them fuse into a giant robot
Instead of looking at the Triune nature of the universe to prove god, he should be looking at the mountains of evidence against his particular god existing in the first place. Geology, history, cosmology, biology and archaeology - instead of ignoring it.
In Pokemon you choose from a Fire, Water or Grass starter. That's three things. The trinity is also three things. PRAISE HELIX!
DOME FOSSIL, you heretic!
Hats OFF to you guys having to put up with such "folks".
I'll be DANGED!
I love that eric got this guy to agree to a comparison between god and the power rangers.
Tyler's quote about "break every yoke" was NOT an abolition of slavery.
It was about freeing the oppressed ONE time as part of a holiday celebration.
WOW! I have been wrong all these years. I always thought the Holy Trinity was onion, celery, and green pepper. Guess I', wrong.
Not older than "The Matrix" movies, dismisses energy as an essential component of the universe. Tyler is amazing!
This was funny...😆
“It’s beyond our understanding” But I do understand 😳😳