Doublelift on why he HATES TSM, Reginald vs Doublelift
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Lets be real, if everything was perfect behind the scenes, Bjerg would not have left.
Bjerg leaving was a big sign
Let's be even more honest, No one likes Reginald
@@jerriath6214 Quite suprise anyone would go or work there with such a toxic enviroment with Regi.
@@SUPERLINKX2 Bjerg can't take the toxidity anymore.
@@danskyl7279i mean its an opportunity to raise your stock in the pro scene in hopes of getting a better offer after your contract expires
Idk how this is surprising. Were talking the same org who didnt tell dl that he was being kicked until he saw the reddit post about zven. Bjerg is the only reason tsm has any credibility at all honestly
and hes gone too
Bjerg also left this shit show . Imainge beeing so shit you lose the best player im Na by far .
If you listen to doublelift he is actually just chasing worlds and has no loyalty himself so yeah...
@@jeff330 true, he must have meditated on this speech for months on end to slander tsm am i right?
@@dust5717 It's a sad situation. I really don't know what to say, a lot of people in this business are ruthless. A lot of humanity has to be sacrificed for the sake of competition. It comes at a price.
Doublelift finally revealing the worst kept secret in lol esports
I dont know what is new here, we knew exactly what happened from the start.
@@t0malito404 the fact that he said he wanted to return 100% and was then rejected by Andy new
There's a lot worse secrets, EU orgs are kind a cringe hahaha and the Asian orgs are literally exploiting people mostly under age kids.
@@Miguel211216 "Asian orgs are literally exploiting people mostly under age kids" Come again? What?
@@Velereonics you do realize lpl and lck recruit kids as young as 12 or 13 years old right? As long as they reach reasonably high mmr. Depending on the org Diamond or low master players can make the cut to try out.
Its the same thing as in traditional sports like soccer or basketball.
The problem is esports is largely unregulated right now. They would be playing for peanuts.
If you want an example of that? Look up Huangfeng. The Suning Player. Dude was literally dirt poor but played for a trash tier org in a tertiary league in China. Imagine all the other players and how many are the teams in smaller leagues are playing. Then look at how shite even a massive org like TSM can be. Multiply that by having less money and less morals. You can see where it leads.
the fact that he was casually talking about this in front of leena 💀💀
leena left tsm dude
@@Luna-vc7lv big yikes for TSM then
@@Luna-vc7lv When did she leave? Don’t remember ever seeing anything about that
@@Luna-vc7lv That ain't what happened. She wants to expand her own brand and she's working with TSM to do so. They haven't decided on anything yet
@@ClickHere4Naruto What's the source on this? As far as I know, she just removed all TSM stuff from her socials. Doesn't sound like something you'd do if you're still connected to an org
Really sad to hear that DL, hope you find the right team for one final push for worlds.
damn, big news here. even if it was stuff everyone already suspected, its still crazy to hear what happened last offseason
Hmm Nah. It's regie.
Still think replacing Double/Bio with Zven/Mithy was one of the dumbest things Regi did
I mean at the time, zven mithy were the best bot in the west if I recall.
Replace the best domestic botlane with imports...Give away best ADC in the region...
That decision was a garbage fire for sure. But factoring in recency bias,
Andy must be super mega-ego if he thought losing double and Bjerg in the same year would mean he could still win NALCS.
@@f0rtyy815 Still it's 2 import slots. Also at the same time TL was rebuilding and looking to sign high level players. Basically cockblocked himself by giving DL over to another competitive team
@@godwinwong2809 I mean, have you followed Reginald? Or watched the trash fire that is Tsm legends, the guy is an okay businessman... but he has a VERY large streak of fucking over players.
@@f0rtyy815 They wasted 2 imports on a lane that was't THAT bad. Zven was better but not to a point that made it worth them swapping out. Atleast in my opinion.
Yea, I was a long term TSM fan, even without this insider knowledge we all knew something wasn’t right that last off season. Thanks for being honest Dlift, I know I’m late, but I’m finally done with TSM
XD
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What kind of fan are you ? Lol
@@Carbs516 he can do what he wants? its a gaming org he can go for whoever he wants for whatever reason.
Ah yes the hindsight 20/20 fan who predicted everything KEKW
2 min in I thought "is the title clickbait btw?" and then DL just drops "I fucking hate TSM" LOL hahaha
It takes an immense amount of courage to identify a toxic situation and actually take action. I hope DL finds a team who can contend at worlds and appreciates his talent. He is the goat of NA after all, put some respect on his name.
How was it toxic? DL has dipped in and out of multiple orgs. TSM has taken him back and bent over backwards for him multiple times. TSM asked him to stay. He wouldn't commit. Then after they sign Lost, he wants in only because Sworddart finally committed. Also, it's a pretty crappy thing to do to bad mouth an org that has provided so much to his "love" Lena. Imagine her going to work the next day. If my significant other did that, it is the ultimate show of egocentric selfishness.
@@MrNodeee Leena is probably jumping ship soon just like Swordart, Bjergsen, and everyone else still tied to this dying team
@@MrNodeee he got kicked from TSM for Zven and Mithy the first time and only got taken back because he wrecked them for like 4 splits in a row. Regi has always been an egotistical shitlord even when he was a player. TSM did doublelift no favours lmao.
@@MrNodeee just because someone who treated you badly is providing for a loved one of yours, doesn't mean you can't say negative things about them. Leena and Doublelift are both adults, they can experience and feel differently towards the same target/subject. vice versa, just because your friends despise someone, doesn't mean you have to back them up and share the same opinion/dislikes. and even if your logic is fitting, that's really no different than Leena providing for TSM all the while they disrespect Doublelift behind his back
@@mivvy First, how was he treated badly? He first declined to commit to them. TSM moved on and signed Lost. Sworddart then committed after, and DL wanted back and they said no. How is that treating him badly? DL has a history of this. Do you remember when he quit on TSM and came back in Summer. Second, DL and Leena caused a lot of crap to TSM this past years... Remember the Dardoc issue and talking about it over stream? Leena and DL have consistently put TSM in a bad situation. Their relationship as a whole was huge conflict of interest. Each step of the way TSM had their back. Now to your point about expressing negative feelings. Does DL have the "right" to express them. Sure, no one is denying that. Is it a questionable move? In my opinion, Yes. Leena is still a part of TSM, and a "Leader" within TSM. When he shit talks TSM, he is not only shit talking an org that has provided for her, it is an org that she has a leadership role in. Imagine her talking with sponsors, or other players and how they will look at her and the org. He is putting his interest over hers, plan and simple. Maybe that is "love" in your book, but in mine, it is not. I would never put my significant other in that bad of a situation. When she leaves TSM, talk to your hearts content. Lastly, if you go back on the videos in the past, you can hear DL and all the TSM players praising Andy left and right. Maybe Andy and TSM are selfish jerks. I am not on the inside and have no idea... but If that is so, it is just the "pot calling the kettle".
I always thought a TSM roster with Bjergsen, Doublelift, and SwordArt would be awesome. I didn't realize it went down like this.
Huni, Spica, Bjergsen, Doublelift, Swordart definitely would’ve went to worlds
honestly would love to see DL and Bjerg play together again but I’m happy with wherever he chooses to go, if he decides to play pro again
I would love to see Bjerg, Double and Core on TL but not likely. Hopefully Double and Jensen can land a team together though.
@@nickboyd6716 No, Rumor is Jensen is going to C9.
Sadge, I hope we can maybe see him play again one day. Dlift deserves a better finale to his career than this.
LoL is a pretty established esport. Like regular sports people don't really get finales almost ever. They just keep playing until they can't like Federer in tennis.
That said what happened to DL is far from neutral. Just gross behavior from the org.
swordart left SoFM, Bin, Angel, Hunfeng for Bjer and DL but ended up getting lost. What a sad story.
He left for money ?
Lol he left for 6mil
How could anyone on the planet like Regi after seeing the Dyrus videos from day one? Dude is literally the most toxic ego org owner ever.
Can you link the video?
@@applesaucey9951 +1
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I was totally expecting clickbait.. and was happily surprised. But as someone else here said, there's always two sides of a story, dont grab ye pitchforks guys.
Other side is: you said no, now its too late, cant play with us anymore.
So cause of andy's ego or whatever, he said goodbye to much much better chance to win lcs/do something at worlds.
Doublelift and swordart would prolly destroy other botlanes, and it feels like swordart also wasnt motivated to play with subpar adc, but he got payed so much so he cant make that obvious lol...
@@t0malito404 I don’t wanna say that’s an excuse for SA bad play but it honestly makes since. Lost motivation to perform and win once you figured out you gave up playing with Sofm bin and haunfeng. To play with Lost. At least with DL I feel like he might’ve had more motivation.
@@t0malito404 It's just Swordart being a professional. He was paid to be TSM's support regardless of who he's playing with, so he made the most out of the situation. Him being unhappy about it is just honesty.
Can a good team please get him now I miss watching my fav player crush bot lanes it would also but fun to play with him once I would die of happiness
I live for this I love this so much. this is exactly what LCS is missing.
goes back to the videos of andy flaming dyrus, xspecial, and wildturtle. The guy can start a group and a business, but that's that. To him others are dispensable no matter how much they have helped him achieve things. If money and status are your thing andy, you're obviously willing to sacrifice an equal amount of something to achieve it... "congrats" to you.
Holy shit. Damn its nice to actually hear the spice!!
Wow I never expected Doublelift to go this hard and spill everything.
"I got fukt by tsm" Regi asked me if i was committed i said nahh and they went with a diff adc. LOL
Its cause they both got egos. Probably tsm had a deadline to make a choice for their adc for monetary reasons and dl missed the deadline with his non commitment. Not trying to defend regi but he had to make a choice and dl fucked him before. Like when he took a split off to stream.
tsm has issues obv but any1 upset with them for this is just not looking at it objectively. It's very petty for him to bring this up now but maybe he really thinks he's in the right for w.e reason.
Every single ex TSM player literally hates the org lol good sign
Doublelift played for TSM, became the best, won championships, went to worlds, got with Leena, still on TSM. Truly counterlogic. SAVAGRY.
Wait so SwordArt only joined TSM to play with Doublelift
No, he joined for 6 Million Dollars. He prefers to play with DL but would've joined regardless.
@@fahadallhaib It was obviously mainly for the money, but playing with DL would have been a great bonus. Seeing as SwordArt never had the chance to play with him, I could see why he left TSM.
P.S. It was 6 million dollars for two years, but since he only played for one, he only got 3 million
@@hiimboosted649 he didn't "leave" persay, he was bought out. It was TSM who wanted to move on and they probably paid him a huge portion of it.
@@fahadallhaib 6 mil goes to org that sold him, not to a player, lol
Definitely no longer a TSM fan although it's not just because of this
hopefully bjerg and dlift go to a team together. I will be a fan wherever they go . No longer gonna watch tsm
@@sammathew921 pretty sure bjerg gonna b on TL and DL isn't gonna play
Wait I just realized he is right. Everytime he is on TSM they win the split
Except that one split with yellow star
I’m sure the Leena factor doesn’t do any favors for Andy and Peters relationship.
that's petty as fuck though.
Not petty it’s human! Begging for a job’ quit on your team than they get who you want so now you want to come back? And you with my ex girl out of all these girls out here? Yea homie peace
@@nd7231 upgrading your gf based on looks is possible one of the more disgusting even for the league community.
dam, off season DL sharing all the tea lol
thought it was covid restrictions, practicing hours on end and playing from home/no audience for another year that made him retire. Guess terrible management is always why people quit their jobs.
Man, the audible groan from Leena is nuts
What r the odds to drops their deal with hans-sama for dl?
Never
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Its kinda posible if Corejj doesnt get green card they need a local adc
I respect this so much!
Damn SwordArt came for Doublelift and Bjergsen just to get f'ed by Regi with Lost and PoE. Hopefully Spica doesn't waste his potential on mediocre rosters.
Going by stats, Poe actually had a ridiculous season with a 28% dmg share(highest in the split) but Lost was one of the worst.
@@auzrealmwid Lost's underperformance skews the dmg share Poe's way
@@jessevelez not underperformance, he's the weakest link. underperform means doing worse than normal lol POE is not a Ori one trick, he was great on assasin, but he's doing Faker factor in TSM because of Huni and crap Bot
Can't believe people are shitting on poe, him spica and swordart hard carried tsm, while huni was sprinting it down top and lost was literally lost
Hey Doublelift, I know you might not see/read this, but please come back, we all know that you are a very good player and everyone, no matter what team we support, we all respect you. We know you want to do better, so please return if possible
This is not his channel bro :D
@@t0malito404 This is actually DL's channel. This channel is for short clips of his reaction or thoughts, said so himself and he was promoting it awhile ago.
@@user-qm3vv7dx8b oh my b then
I would love to see Double and Bjerg start their own organisation. Team Anti-Andy
Amusingly enough that's how TSM got started, team anti-CLG
@@haywoco2 That is the most Regi thing I have ever heard
Pretty sure you can face check bushes and hold flash on any team. Look at Perks, he straight inted 90% of last split and still had a spot.
Coulda been on eg with jizuke impact sven ignar?
Not good enough for the all mighty doublelift apparently.
Its unfortunate that the bridge with TL has been burned. I would've like to see DL back in our Jersey.
Just imagine. We could have had Doublelift and SwordArt.
Such a well made video.
What a gangster move he's talking shit about tsm whilst smashing the tsm president
It’s really hard to root for TSM having heard that, especially since doublelift is the reason I got into ADC. But never thought I’d here dlift say he wants to play professionally again
he changes his mind every year cant believe his retirement ever lol
GOD DAMNNNNN, FUCK. I would love to see Doublelift back in the LCS.
As a TL fan, that is amazing to hear. Thank you for all the memories Mr. Lift
when DL was on TL and Berg was still on tsm, it was hard to cheer for both
Bjergsen is going to play for TL right? Join them then DL
Holy shit😭😭😭need to go see the Reddit of this
Man I wish we could of seen BB, Spica, Bjerg, DL, and Sword art on a team
Holy shit….
Damn, I really wanna see doublelift and bjergsen on the same team again 😭
Why doesn't he play for other non NA teams?
Lmaooo so much for the power of friendship
LOL what a shocker!
Come join the club Doublelift, join the club.
Does him saying this about TSM jeopardise Leena's position at TSM? Kinda confused if because if DL hates Andy then is there not some conflict of interest for Leena since she is part of the organisation so she has to side with Andy right?
Dont really care that much about DL but respect him for his reasoning. Im excited to see Bjergsen join another org
Yo this is fucking 🔥🔥🔥
1:08 To be fair, this was during the crunch time when the transfer window was closing. So they are running out of time to finalise the roster where majority of the potential adc has already been lock in. For him to response like that after being given the possibilities of which support is playing, i believe even other orgs or C9 Jack would have taken another adc that is willing to commit to the new roster ( even without swordart) over him.
I genuenly don't think you were bitchin. I'd be heated if I was treatead like that. Bless ya. Love the content!
leenas in the backgroud lol
still think C9 could make a big move if they get Nemesis and DL. Keep Fudge and you could try to steal Spica but Blaber is fine and if Vulcan is staying that roster is good as golden. Fudge-Spica/Blaber-Nemesis-DL-Vulcan
wouldn't happen but, a man can dream
Doublelift wouldn't play with nemesis. Nemesis has 0 social skills and they would hate each other
@@Sam-qi8lj DL has kind of owned up to his interpersonal issues. So it might not be that bad.
But... is Perkz leaving C9? Why would Neme play for them?
Regardless though Nemesis has said he won't go to NA because they have a culture (and technical issues) that will never translate into winning worlds.
@@Velereonics perkz is almost confirmed to be going to the vitality super team (alphari, selfmade, perkz, carzzy, labrov)
Ehh prob better to snatch up humanoid instead since he’s rumored to be coming to Na
@@Velereonics so nemesis wants to go and win worlds? ah so thats why he became a streamer
Now we need Sneaky's story
Regi salty DL got leena, so there’s some tension there lmaooo
wdym? They broke up before DL started dating her.
@@bobbyjonas2323 He can still be salty about it even after all these years
@@Hidea98 if he was salty, he wouldn't have signed Doublelift after he got kicked from TL
Daaaaamn, Daddylift just went VERY in while his girlfriend is in the room. What a legend
Perfect video. Thanks! Everyone should see this channel tho
when your boyfriend complain shit about your ex-boyfriend:
always been a DL fan btw.
When you watch this now when he talks about EG it's quite funny xD
good, I already was hating on tsm anyway just because of BB thing and now much more.
The return of DL to TL?!?
stranger slayer
Ok double lift went chad mode
TSM is the new CLG. RIP to the LCS Old Gods.
TSM conned swordart
U alr know somethings up when even bjerg wont play for them
🌶🌶🌶
If you want to play on a top team, you gotta practice in LCS, then your skill will develop, and in a few years maybe NA can win worlds.
If you want to comeback you gotta be in form and develop the skills. Uzi wouldn't care if he played for a mid-table team. He's coming back to LPL.
The thing is, DL probably knows insider things about each org and isn’t willing to go through that hassle. DL is pretty established and has a level of expectations and expertise in how things should operate.
Just like the stories of Scarra and DIG, DL knows LCS is shady even today.
R.I.P TSM ... We all wouldve loved to see DL and swordart instead. maybe had something to do with dating his EX
It wasn't an ego thing (at least from my perspective), it was just Andy being sick of DL's bullshit. They made an offer, DL refuses and DL is out of the question. Simple as that
facts
but DL never performs on international stage so why would a team give him an offer when they can spend money on import that can atleast maybe show to be a keeper
he's an MSI finalists dud
It's simple just ban Trist so that there is 0 chance he picks it. EZ championship.
All this time I thought I was a TSM fan, I was really a Bjerg fan. Now I don’t about the team except Spica lol they gonna be the next CLG
Wait til thoorin gets a load of this
Thoorin already mentioned this when the first split was starting. One in an ama and another on summoning insight and maybe even some banter on the crackdown. He went along the lines of saying that the word on the street was that there was internal conflict with DL and Regi. And he explained it almost exactly like DL did in this video. He thought they were not gonna get him the big ticket support. So he said no. Then they went overpaid for swordart and he was like yeah ill play. Then regi ego went nah. He inferred that there was more conflict going on about regi not wanting DL there. Seems his sources were pretty spot on.
I feel bad for Leena, for his bf being so honest lol
I mean only thing i could see is that Zven is kicked out, because of bad performance, and that means C9 DL ;d
LOL he went in jesus
Leena felt extremely uncomfortable LMAO she had to fake dry laugh through it, it was hilarious.
Soooo what I’m hearing is if TL Doublelift doesn’t happen, him coming back doesn’t happen.
Because TL is the best org to play for without contest. Its a no brainer.
C9, EG, 100T?
@@matthewminogue3276 he means with their rumored (but kinda confirmed) roster fo next season
wasnt really a fan of Andy when he was on stage and i knew shit goes on as long as Andy is with TSM.
What about when tsm was best in NA with bjerg and doublelift?
Were you a fan of him then?
@@t0malito404 Ones can be a fan and supporter of a certain player(s). Does not necessarily have to be a fan of a team.
@@user-qm3vv7dx8b exactly
Now I wonder if bjersen leaving tsm had something to do with Andy
Damn.
BRO I JUST BOUGHT FTX CHILL DL LOOOL
I'd be so hyped of Bjergsen and Doublelift were to join in TL, though we ''know'' that not gotta happen, sadge.
bjerg wouldnt want to play with DL kekW
MAD DL
sounds like DL would be perfect on 100T for some reason.
Damn, reading comments seeing that everybody knew this makes me embarrassed to have called myself a TSM fan in the past.
Once you hear your first story of Regi being r*tarded and a complete dbag you start to hear more. There's a lot of them. He's super delusional.
Fucking Spicy
So sad seeing DL get fcked by TSM org after what he did for them. No wonder bjerg had enough of thr org. The forced retirement does not suite DL hopes he returns to Pro play again. His still one of the Best NA AD carry. Homegrown NA player.
"I dont even need to like pray for it theyre just gonna make it happen themselves"
DL the fuckin P R O P H E T
Actually Crazy can see why Bjergsen left but hope you bounce back wish we could have had the dream team you Swordart Bjergsen Spica and Huni as a TSM fan I do wish you didn't say you wish they never won anything again but you opinions are yours
Double retired because he wasn’t guaranteed the top tier support he wanted, after playing like absolute shit in his last split. I honestly don’t blame Regi for thinking it was probably better to just try someone new. That being said, lost was just not it and TSM for sure makes worlds if double and bjerg were still playing.
Doublelift comeback is confirmed then?