Doublelift talks about TSM's ex Coach Money Drama, his personal stories with him
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- Talking about the Peter Zhang being let go and the Dexerto Article around it, with personal stories
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0:00 Reading the Article
4:57 Some personal stories of Peter Zhang
15:00 how Peter Zhang lied about knowing the hotel owner - Hry
Listen up kids, DL just gave life saving advice: any time you lend money, assume you'll never get it back. So if you can't afford to lose it, don't lend it.
Pretty goated advice
actually pretty good advice
this has been said for decades. Doublelift didnt say anything new
Lesson: Don't lend money. Just give it and dont look back.
@@cryptidian3530 This was my life quote about money. Then I had my wife. It now changed to: Don't lend money. Period.
EVERYDAY AT TSM IS A BANGER
Banger org KEKW
Everyday at tsm is a bankloan
Zhang about to be a statistic on the squid games soon lol
Society is squid games. Look who owns it lol
@@TheRealSamPreece true.
Ayo, the fucking TSM soap opera to be written after this split will be insane.
I'd watch it if it was on Broadway tbh
Screenplay by Thorin
My mom was gonna lose her house , and we had 14 days to get 27,000$ cash in order to pay back the bank for the outstanding balance so we would have the to opportunity to sell the house in the time frame of 14 days. My friend let me burrow his entire saving in order to help my mom out . it all worked out we sold the house and I gave him an extra 5,000 for doing me the biggest favors . The money was tied up with lawyers and banks and court for about 3 months 10 weeks longer than expected . I approached him to let him know whats good and before I even started the convo he looked me dead in my eyes and said I know you don't have the money and I know you'll pay me back as soon as you get it so don't stress because I'm not. Thats the day I knew my friend was a brother . I'll forever be grateful for my brother DZ.
that’s dope but definitely an outlier
You're a good man and I'm glad you're surrounded by fellow people! Glad it all worked out brother
yeah but you didnt go to 5 other people for different amounts and different reasons lmao(based DZ)
Shoutout to DZ to being a real bro
@@WisteriaBerlitz Big respect DZ, lost my loan on black in Vegas
HAHAHA Peter Zhang got the Future Market Rune!
unfortunately he is only 2 cs per minute.
🤣🤣🤣
Underrated comment
Lmaoooo
💀
9 years in NA and your excuse was cultural diff
There isn't even a cultural diff lol, lending money to friends is normal everywhere in the world if it is a small sum. On the other hand thousands of dollars is not normal everywhere, even in China or Taiwan.
@@Roflmao6173 right the issue here isnt the fact that he borrowed money from 1-2 coworker. It looks like he borrowed from all of em lmfao. And theres no culture where u ask the whole company hahaha
i mean the ccp genocide was also called a cultural diff, so anything shitty a chinese entity does is just a cultural diff at this point
That’s fucked up. Essentially his employees who are in their late teens and early twenties. Taking advantage of them like that.
i feel bad for yursan
Important lesson. Addicts will say/do anything to anyone, they only care about their vice.
@@andyhartkopf4167 I mean, it is yursan´s fault for being so innocent and the coach just took advantage of his inexperience
Welcome to the real world. People are trash
@@felipelb8673 I get what you’re saying but I think it’s hard to put any sort of blame on someone simply because they were too innocent or naive.
It’s tricky, especially when you’re in a business and your peer, who you are supposed to trust and rely on, is the one manipulating you.
And as a young adult, it’s pretty easy to be manipulated sometimes because quite honestly, you don’t expect or realize that some of these things could happen.
It sucks either way
I wonder if Peter Zhang interfered with the SwordArt signing in the beginning. If SwordArt's contract was finalized earlier maybe we'd still have SwordArt + DL + Bjergson on TSM playing for worlds.
I was thinking the same thing cause I remember there was a non-visa related delay that cause Regi to think that they were not getting SwordArt. Which cause Regi to say to DL " SA may not play, do you wanna play with us still" Which in turn made DL said "ahhhimma think about it" Which in turn made Regi... you guys know the story.
doesn't matter
airport run is still the result
@@ivancasey13 true and correct
@@ivancasey13 prob not tbh
@@ivancasey13 here's why you're absolutely wrong....
You're not.
It's okay he can just ask the players at his next org for a loan to pay back the previous loans for the money he stole. I think that's an important detail glossed over, he stole SwordArt's money, it wasn't a loan or anything dude should be in jail.
Inte röstat
Doublelift stalling him for an extra day just to tell him *HELL NO* is amazing
If it really were just a loan, why isn't he going to his boss Reginald first and explaining his situation/asking for a possible advance
edit: lol, I'm not saying Regi would give him the money, I'm saying that the org would have said that Peter came to them with that request in order to cover their own asses and create separation between him and the org in this scandal
LOL u think REGINALD would agree
Wukong only has crypto money. Lol
Wtf u on about? Regi is homeless man.
Regi would say that the cancer was Turtle's fault.
@@Jothaxify Holy shit I wasn't prepared for that one, jeez
He's the Tinder Swindler of the LCS.
Man wild stuff. I knew Peter Zhang for about a year as my university hired him to coach our freshly made LoL team. Never thought anything weird about him. He seemed like an alright person to me. Wild to hear all this stuff but along with another pro LoL coach we had they would banter about crazy LCS happenings/gossip. Wish I listened in more on it looking back lol
his reputation is really bad in north america chinese league community since his lmq days
Love these super long vids man
So for the record concerning the medical part. Stem cell therapy can be used for certain leukemia diseases or autologous transplant. Which is used in conjunction with a lot of immune suppressant or other drugs hence the medicine. I totally despise the guy for downcutting other people but just laying this out there so we can focus the blame and intent. Also China does not have universal health care, that’s Taiwan. But I do agree he’s shady
There's no universal healthcare but there's 100% payment plans available, especially if you're expecting to be able to pay it back within a month. And if he genuinely has the capacity to pay it back, presumably he can get a bank loan.
I doubt he doesn't have money for that shit with what he's been doing
Even the "big bad USA" health care system wouldn't put a 1 month timer on such a thing. It's sketch regardless of the countries health care systems...
@mcchickenz no one disagrees
@@BNIODPGeneralBanking Depending on how good their insurance is I honestly wouldn't doubt it. My mom has great health but the bills from her breast cancer were still pretty damn high. Plus, more experimental procedures are generally uber expensive so if it is one of those that could add into it.
Just FYI about exchanging yuan to dollars. It’s a pretty difficult thing for the Chinese. However for Taiwanese, aka sword art &Yursan, we don’t need it, it’s pretty simple for Taiwanese to exchange money between current, which often time just involve some online banking, or a most a call to customer service. And since the LPL imports are in LCS for a not every long time. I really doubt the statement
It's not a difficult thing for the Chinese as well. If you need cash, you only need to fill out a forum stating the amount and the reason and you are pretty much good to go. If you have a bank account in another country, online banking can simply suffice if you need a transfer. Any individual has a yearly allowance of up to 50,000 US dollar to exchange, it's not a lot but you have family members that can also exchange currencies.
I have a good feeling we can know each value he asked TSM players, he likely asked Bjergson and DL for the most, and players like Haunzter, Spica, Brokenblade, ex TSM players etc.. he likely asked for less
Are any of them Chinese or Taiwanese? Cause the first line of the story says Chinese or Taiwanese players
@@PurpleHaze524 yes, spica was born in china
@@PurpleHaze524 you're misunderstanding what I'm referencing, the players he was being an "agent" to were likely ones he scouted. But when he owed Sword art his money he likely asked all those players, instead of ones he was currently stealing from with the "agent" deal
Oh yea my bad
When I went back to Chine a few years back a old classmate reached out for a reunion. We met and spoke over dinner, I paid. The next day he texts me asking me to lend him money, he said it was an emergency. I asked him about the details and his story fussed over time. At the end he said he needed the money to buy some new cloth.
A lot of folks have zero morals and will absolutely lie for money. Unless he shows a legitimate hospital record of his grandparents illness, there’re reasonably doubts he’s lying
i love how schools only tell people to be nice and not tell them to be aware of scams and immoral people
My dad was talking to his friends to avoid someone in their circle regarding this recently
One of them is going around asking for money for an emergency as well
Plenty of people have no morals but when I lived in china I almost always had trust my friends would pay back what I lended them. So we have completely different narratives here lol
@@QuantizedAxiom It's like that in every country. There are people and friends who you can trust with money, and there are other people you can't. Sounds like you have some good friends while the other guy had a shitty one.
Some people will think its okay to ask you for money, simply because they think u have more than them... its a weird world.
This sounds like every gambling debt episode in any crime show, borrows and borrows and borrows until he forgets who hes borrowing from and then goes im trying to pay that back and never does. What a BANGER!!!
"literally everyone single one of us is on the spectrum in some direction" best quote 2022 trademark it asap
that quote should be on a shirt, tsm should be paying Doublelift royalties for these merch ideas lol
It's actually just a factual statement, not sure if he knows that....and to be honest I think most people have no idea.
@@loxxovvoxxol2896 Quite literally no.
@@seffer9772 Case in point.
@@loxxovvoxxol2896 You're quite literally just wrong. You also don't seem to know what case in point means.
Lmao lenna coming in with the PR statement at the end 😂😂😂
I wonder what WoodT would have to say about this?
Everyday in TSM is a banger
"went to black jack table and bet it all black"
That's... Not... How ... It.. works..
Never change dl
cant wait till thorin and monte talk about this on summoning insight
Just a note for people don’t know, the universal health care in China only cover specific medications. Although the list of medications is super long but it still very likely that part of a cancer treatment is not included.
The telling sign is that he has an explanation for everything.
The part about indirectly killing his grandma actually made me laugh lmao
Someone in chat- "PETER WAS ABOUT TO SELL REGI'S HOUSE TOO" XDDDDD im dead
Appreciate Leena and DL for the intellectual honesty, TBH.
Doublelift be mispronouncing impropriety and flaming the writers’ grammar haha. Giga chad.
14:08 doublelift “well knowing peters personality that makes sense 😂”
TSM just can't catch a break 😂😂
14:49 leena “i didnt hire him btw *smiles*” doublelift “ohhhh blaming part” LMAOOOO
parth
Banger
Sky Williams level of borrowing money
I stopped watching sky a long time ago, what did he do?
@@amosmonk he did A *LOT*
Too long to even sum it up short so I recommend you Google it yourself
@@amosmonk sky has a video about it, so does technicals. Tldr: Dude was just bad with money
Leena coming trying to defend herself while DL is trying to hide his embarrassment, is just legendary.
In the words of spica
EVERYDAY AT TSM IS A BANGER
Peter Zhang with the Evergrande moves lmao
Underrated comment holy shit.
I remember when I was sick and had to take a month off work I was broke with no money for rent, I called up my best friend who I've know for over 20 year and even when I went to ask him for 1000$ I still gave him my gaming laptop as collateral just so I felt better about asking for that much money. 2 months later im finally able to pay him back and get my laptop and he tell's me that he was actually kinda in need of the money back but felt bad asking me and the laptop I gave him wasn't really going to get him 1k back.
I felt like absolute shit, money issues suck and borrowing money sucks. The feeling of knowing I owe people money feels super fucking bad.
Yeah this is why I never ask for money anymore lol. I cannot make someone wait on money.
This sounds like an esports version of Tinder Swindler
Lmfao this is so entertaining. Also, maybe peter zhang was just comfy on the floor bro
8:52 Holy sh*t i never hear others use this term, i absolutely love it =)
12:45 you can't blame tsm for this one kekw
Read: "you can't blame ME"
this is so FUNNY
BANGER DAYS
I am so looking forward to this week's summoning insight
Here’s my take on it. If he doesn’t feel his grandma dying and asking people for money is not worth making it public…. It’s not worth it to lend him that money. If my parents were dying and I had to ask for money I would make it as public as possible so I can reach out to even more people who can potentially help me.
was about to send this to a friend cause its a hilarious story but then i realized i still owe him money too so i didnt 🤣 *(chill guys, we are talking about 70 bucks. I could have send it to him without a problem and without him asking me for the money, i just felt uncomfortable to do it. )
I guess you re not a friend then
then pay him? borrowing and not returning is just robbery
You gotta pay up dude 🤔😂
if that's true
Cringe.
Suck em off if you dont have the money
Unironically this sounds like so many of the recent fraud-based true crime stories. Anna Delvey, Bad Vegan, the Tinder Swindler guy, all have such similar stories to this guy. It's pretty nuts. If Zhang wasn't living it up, I assume it was maybe gambling or something which drained his bank account.
"ask me to borrow them money"
the word is LEND. "LEND them money"
Your boss asking you for money is a HUGE conflict of interest and a MAJOR red flag.
He was trying to get a bag and duce out lol
I LOL'd super hard when he said "i have a friend who's the Prince of Nigeria..." XDDDDDDD
Wow. Just wow.
It could be T-Cell, CRSPR therapy, etc. can be mixed up. And in China, there is no universal medical plan. It's hard money for life business in China unfortunately. Not saying he is not scamming, just trying to point out some facts.
How does the changing cost of the medical bill fit in with your facts?
Yea, right? Hmmm
There is no shot health care in China could cost up to 200k a month. We know that China is becoming a global power in these recents years, but in reality, the gap between the poor and the rich in China is as large as the gap between NA lol and KR lol. The majority of Chinese make like 15k a year. It certainly is a lot of money for cancer treatment especially the best ones, but there is no way it costs that much.
theres noooo way chinese medical bills can cost over 50k USD
@@rnac5438 Depending on how you were taken care of in ER and for the conditions, it can shoot up that high.
When Peter Zhang shows up to the 5 star hotel with a sleeping bag.
Both of us have grown up together. I do not have the time to watch LCS anymore but sure got 20 minutes to chill with you talking. I enjoyed listening to you and laughing with you. Have a great day DL!
I feel like Zhang only contacted ppl about money as an alibi to prove that he needs the money for his grandma's operation and not to actually have the money. If you think about it, the investigations with those individuals (DL and others) do confirm that Zhang needed money for operation.
Lmfao thats not how investigations work. All it confirms is that he asked all those people for money.
I have a local distributor on my small hometown of 3000 people that build debt to a bakery of about 2 grand. During COVID he felt bad not giving people basic goods and people didn’t pay him, so he called every single person by name 😂😂😂
i just realised that leena for sure knew more about this before it broke
And at some point, you'll ask who was President of TSM when he was hired. DL just threw Leena under the bus and didn't realize it.
Both Leena and DL knew more before it broke, duh - they got real life friends in the scene, they gonna hear murmurs
bro saw the tinder swindler and decided to try it himself
TIL that DL doesn't know what the word 'impropriety' is.
For those that dont know, the way hospital in China treat patient on severe illness like Cancer are a whole different level. My uncle was diagnosed with cancer, and hospital require us to pay for everything the hospital used on the patient asap, no payment, no treatment. Let me give u an example, my uncle needed a shot, we need to go to floor 2, the payment center, pay and receive a receipt, then we go back to the nurse, show them the receipt, then the shot will be applied, same goes for painkiller, everything the patient requires or need from the hospital, must be pay at the time it is required by the hospital before anything is done. Even the gown needs to be purchased, hospital does not provide the basic needs where US patients received, on top of that, u are sharing the room with 3 or 5 ppl depending on the size of the room.
Insurance only covers the total bill at the end, not the money that is being spent during, say insurance covers 30% of the bill, the gown cost 20rmb, and u might think u only need to pay 14rmb, wrong, u pay the full price upfront. After everything is done, u pay the full medical bill, u take the recipe to ur insurance, they will reimburse ur 30%. It might sound insane, but thats how it is, this is my experience at the #1 hospital in Guanzhou, one of the 4 main city in China. Else where might be lot more harsh or might operate slightly different.
For those that wonders, we gave my uncle more than 350k during his stay at the hospital before his passing over the 3 month period, we are so broke that we were about to sell our house to continue the support, so Medical bill for treating cancer in China is insane.
BRUH
never thought I'd say this but, at least I can run away from my outstanding hospital bills LOL
6:10
facts
even borrowing shit in general
doesn't only go for money
Lol how did TSM become the most successful org into a org where no one want to be in anymore and the worst org around the LCS 🤔
in less than 2 years
Bjergsen made the right choice no kissy
14:40 “people ask me to borrow 20$ sometimes and im like no problem but 70k jesus chrisr oh god” HAHAHAHAHA
Legit this is like the tinder swindler but his swindling TSM members 😂
League def needs a revitalization of more professionalism. Too many kids walked into too much money without guidance…
Unfortunately this isn't exclusive to just kids or league. A lot of athletes suddenly come into money and play for a year in their respective sport and then are found in a d league across the world or mcd due to poor financial management. Schools should be trying better to teach basics to life than just dumping trig/chem/memorization of useless things into people.
Peter acting like he's Jackie Chan in China lul
To be fair to Peter Zhang, yes it is a pretty common occurrence in China for friends/colleagues to lend each other money especially in times of crisis. Also the standardized healthcare while great has its limits especially in a country with as many people as China. Often times surgery waiting lists are long af and you have to have connections and grease the wheels with a red packet. Also very frequently an outside surgeon will be flown in to perform an operation that a hospital is not able to perform with the doctors it has on hand which is paid mostly out of pocket by the family. However none of this excuses Peter Zhang’s terrible financial decisions and probable gambling addiction.
This is the type of guy to participate in the Squid Games
I know this shit is hella messy for some but from watchers perspective this shit is the funniest shit I've seen in a long time
PZ’s grandma is probably getting some Cyberpunk 2077 implants, with all the debts he going into
Didnt other people claim that the dude was super unprofessional and did not know how to do their job?
Tinderswindler? Lol
Stem cells are used for patients with Leukemia too
“impropriety is a noun， genius“ - thorin I'm sure
Great video! Only got halfway through though, I’m expecting a call from Elon Musk. I’ll tell him you said hi.
This hit too close to home. Btw stem cell treatment are used in blood cancer operation. Usually you'll be in chemo for a month or 2 and then you'll be transplanted with a suitable host stem cell.
Isn't it more commonly known as a bone marrow transplant?
literally Anna Sorokin lmao
the wolf of tsm
holy shit this is so fucking funny it's unbelievable
When your boss ask you for money lol
Grandma reveal at this point
This is fuckin incredible lmao holy shit
Who else tried to look up what kind of car SwordArt had in the us...
only to find all images of weebs with SAO decals on their civic's
I'm Flight Instructor in California, and that's about how much I earn per month, $1,000 sadge.
woah woah whats this opportunity with the Prince of Nigeria?
To be fair, DL's point about China having universal health care is just wrong lol. but the rest of the argument is legit
He said standardized not universal
The eSports swindler hahaha
fucking Leena LMAO. "This certainly wasn't going on when I was running things, bye bye"
Peter Zhang been watching too much TrainwrecksTV it seems
Can't eat with you scrubs, I'm eating with the CEO of tencent XD
Leena trying not to get sued
Oh god yeah. Private investors can totally sue for damages against former TSM management if proven they knew about this behavior.
I think he probably tried to maintain a lifestyle of the people around him. But he makes substantially less than players do. So blew through money
Is this not just straight up illegal? He is essentially stealing from multiple people?
Master Yi it is.
Some Jiho Park from lookism type shit lmao
Status. That is where the money spending comes in, as well. It is all about status. He lives beyond his means and lies about knowing those people to make his life seem larger than it is. He isn't this super horrible person, he is just a person that makes poor life decisions, resulting in things like this. His position got to his head and it ran off ahead of his body.
Sounds like a super horrible person. Dude abused his relationships and trust and compassion of people around him. Zero pity for this dude.