Sailing, traditional mono hull, deck saloon or raised cabin saloon, what one is right for you
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- Sailing, traditional mono hull, deck saloon or raised cabin saloon, what one is right for you
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I'm amazed that you, almost daily, find a 10 min topic to cover. You do a great job. I learn a lot. Thanks for what you do.
Thank you so much, I sincerely appreciate you watching
The Sirius 35 DS is my dream yacht, absolutely perfect in almost every way
My dream boat is a Sirius 35 deck salon. I have been comparing them to everything else. Hard to beat their quality, and well thought out design.
But the Moody and Nauticat line are incredible.
Such great yachts!
Sirius 40DS is the dream.
I really like the look of that Moody!!!
The view was amazing in the DS.
Nice looking boat also, sleek, well blended lines.
I hate my freeboard. Uncontrollable in a marina with wind. & thanks for letting me know I don't have a deck salon. Jeanneau is one of my favorites too. Their yacht series has a great look.
Hahah
Thanks for the video Chris! The Sirius 35DS is my lotto boat. I love the huge space in 35ft, not to mention the “owners” cabin. Looking forward to your series on the DSs and some possible negatives compared with traditional mono hulls. Is there a budget DS? How do DSs compare to Cats? Material for future videos . . . 😁
Me too, meeeeeee too.
Thank you so much for this video!! For me personally these boats look a lot better than the usual sailboats we see alot.
Agree
now that you've explained it with pics, I do like the roomy advantages
Thank you so much for covering this topic not many channels cover these unfortunately
wow you actually made a deck salon video thanks bro.
This deck salon option is inspiring!
Love the Moody DS!!!
Besides the heeling, the steps are the other feature that makes fair weather sailors scream, "Once you go CAT you never go back!" Learning about the deck salon boats will be welcome challenge for this dedicated CAT lover.
Definitely have the desire .
Thx, did not know this
I've been lied to. Jeanneau Feux DS. What DS is there in the 45 foot range from another company? I now must have DECK SALON!
Oh my god Chris!!! Everytime I think I know what kind of vessel I want, you show me something else amazing. I'm starting to think you don't like me buddy. Stop messing with my mind!!! 😉 Great vidéo
1. Sirius 2. Moody 👍
Great video thank you
Thank you for watching
Nordship 40 ds is my dream boat
Sweet Video
Chris that Surius is an ansome looking boat. I really like it but the Ka Ching to but it has to be well out of my price range. I always like to see different vessels thanks again.
My favorite Deck Salon- correct me if it is actually not one- the Dufour Atol 43 or 50. Ahead of its time- maybe 60 made. A cross between monorail and cat as well as coast guard level finishes, lol
I really like the Catalina Morgan 440 DS... Even though I guess it's actually a raised salon. Good max draft with a wing keel at 4'11'.
I’m not familiar with that model, but that sounds awesome for cruising the Caribbean, Bahamas, etc. And it would be great for an Atlantic crossing.
Degerö from Finland make also DS boats that are worth considering the price level they keep!
the biggest advantage of a DS is not always downstairs upstairs. "Honey where is the (fill in the item of your liking)?" and again up down...
Sirius is perfection 😍
Though expensive
Love that Sirius 40 DS. Even compared to the Moody 41 DS. Main reasons are German build quality, 3 cabin layout, variety of keel configurations, and classic, sort of, look. The Moody 41DS is a little less expensive and looks kinda too fat for my taste. I do like the bullworks height but moving around under way in bad weather is probably unnecessary on either vessel. As for the interior, the Sirius seems safer to move around in with better grab safety. I’d prefer the sail boat look over the floating apartments look. I do like the forward helm station on the Moody.
WoO!!!
I love the deck saloon! It’s the most beautiful boat. I love the hunter 44 and 45 DS even if it’s not a true DS. They also seem to hold their value well.
I don’t mind paying a little more for something I know will hold it’s value better.
Awesome! Sirius are hard to find because owners love them. Really, really looking forward to this series Chris.
Sirius are bespoke vessels not a high volume one size fits all vessel. Usually you buy them later in your boating career when you are experienced sailor....
@@rickylefleur2158 I think you’re right, but I’m not sure that matters. I’ve watched several videos of Sirius, including the one featured in this video, and the thing that stands out is the volume of living area for a 35 footer, and many other aspects. And from the comments on those videos, finding any Sirius DS yachts for sale is like finding a unicorn.
100%. If I remember correctly they build something like 25-30 yachts a year. But dealing with them, they are 100% customer focused, it blew me away.
groovy
I'm curious how these deck saloon's boats handle taking a wave over the stern in a following sea. A lot of cats have a step at the threshold to keep water on the cockpit from entering the saloon. I didn't see this on the Moody 41ds. nice video.
Probably doing the patreon thing on June 1.
So! Handling safety comparisons of a top heavy DS to a NON DS?
As others have mentioned, windage is a concern. Thrusters can be overwhelmed and fail at the worst times. I had a Kadey Krigen Whaleback and loved the room and view up high but windage was crazy bad. How is the ride in the saloon in confused seas when you're up so high?
Another nice presentation Chris
I watched the most recent Sirius video, but to my dismay the (German) CEO started talking about on board 'green' energy systems like solar and wind vanes
That's a private peeve of mine, so at that point I began dismissing everything else he had to say, including the 35DS they were sailing
I'll touch very briefly on what I mean - there's tons of good information for interested readers
In a nutshell, green or renewable energy is a pipe dream. Among those who know the truth, some cross over to the dark side and act like PT Barnum
Subsidies, grants, govt financing, PR marketing games, it's all out there for savvy gamesters preying on the gullible public
The truth is, there are only two dependable, consistent, high concentration sources, but they are both non renewable and run counter to the popular narrative: petroleum/gas and nuclear.
That's OK however; while the public is diverted, real policy decisions are being made that recognize these truths
Nuclear/gas will power continue to power the electrical grid, while petrol/diesel will continue to power long haul transport
By that I mean diesel for trucks (except urban battery powered recharged from yhe grid), electro diesel locomtive trains, and diesel powered shipping
sailboats will continue to have direct drive deisel engine props, as well as on board generators or auxiliary petrol portable gensets
If you have any questions about solar, I'd first look into core issues like cabling, controllers, voltage drop, (panel) positioning, efficiency, batteries and charge rate disparities
Of course I didn't even mention nighttime, clouds, sails, grime, etc preventing collectors operating in the first place
Are raised cabin saloons warmer than the typical sailboat? (seems like they get a lot more interior sunlight)
Please, do hanse and bavaria
Hanse does not have a deck saloon ?
I really like the Jeanneau 42DS but... There had to be a BUT. The stepped seats in the cockpit bother the heck out of me. Why did they do that? Just looks uncomfortable. But even with that "defect" I would still consider getting one as everything else about the boats is really nice.
agree
So my catamaran is a deck salon
Got to wonder though if you are paying the premium for a boat with a deck Solon it seems like you would just go all in and go with a cat. I mean if you are playing in the price point already you can probably afford the extra cost of running a cat.
"People sail in nice warm weather"
me as a canadian hoping to get a nice pilothouse to sail around the greatlakes when they aren't frozen and moor for the two - four month they are.
Maybe I should be a youtuber, nobody else does that. Probably because nobody else would want to. Also there would be fewer girls in bikinis
Haha, I like motor sailors
oh please do a video on them @@ChasingLatitudes Thoughts on Nauticats maybe?
algo
Why not call out Bill Dixon and his brilliant Moody deck salon designs?
I am not sure what you mean
@@ChasingLatitudes you praise the "deck saloon" with such vigor (which I totally agree with)-I'd think you'd be willing to credit Mr Dixon and his fixation on the design.
That Sirius mono is spectacular and the most over priced boat on the market...
It is extraordinarily difficult to take any of the seriously when you keep calling it a deck salon and not a deck saloon. There are two O's, meaning it is pronounced like a wild west saloon.
Text salons totally destroy your forward vision from the cockpit so if you like sailing from your cockpit forget it. This is apart from all the extra windage making things uncontrollable in a Marina and slowing you down. Not to mention but ugly. They are really motorsailers unless they are very big
@ABC gang
A lot more modern vessels are coming with bow and even stern thrusters ....so i cannot see the windage issue being that valid and solar arches, Dingy's on davits Dodgers and weather tight enclosures are as bad if not worse.
Why sail halfway across the planet to some beautiful scenic location to live in a poorly ventilated and insulated submarine ... exactly. 👍🏼
Thanks for defining the different DS catorgaries.😎
Same here.
Same here
You keep saying salon...it's saloon.
If I say salon it's inevitable someone will comment, comments help the algorithm, 1000 IQ moves
@@ChasingLatitudes Fair enough. No such thing as negative publicity. 😄 I love the channel mate, and appreciate what you do. Was just a nails on chalkboard thing for me.
@Fenris Dark all good my man, I appreciate you watching. I will intentionally do those things sometimes hoping people will comment 🙏 so thank you so much
@ABC gang I suppose a marketer would! I just can’t imagine a bunch of hard sailors equating it to where ladies get their hair done 😁
@ABC gang The pronunciations are typically from old English coastal dialects and some Norse, not French. Though English itself built heavily on Frankish, Norman, and Germanic languages originally, and there was some common inheritance for saloon and salon in French, the strange pronunciations and spelling are more recent than that. The Brits still use saloon to refer vehicles where a closed body is separated from where the vehicle operator sits. (A sedan’s trunk).. which is also the boot 😁. Botswain… svein, Viking for servant. But pronounced so poorly, it could only have come from poor English sailors. Language is fun. With two o’s though, there is no case of saloon being pronounced salon except by those who do not know any better.