MotoGP Made a HUGE Mistake…

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  • čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
  • Modern technology is ruining MotoGP - and it’s making it a lot more boring - which as we’ve seen from other motorsports in the past, is less than ideal.
    But what exactly is ruining MotoGP? Well In this video I’m going to explain exactly why it’s becoming worse, as well as what the organisers of MotoGP are trying to do to stop it from happening!
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Komentáře • 192

  • @frostygonz
    @frostygonz Před měsícem +155

    Only thing ruining MotoGP is all the ai videos. Thank you for being one of the few real humans making great videos!

    • @LouaiAmrouche-iu9bc
      @LouaiAmrouche-iu9bc Před měsícem +3

      lol

    • @brdllc
      @brdllc Před měsícem +8

      Yep, it’s a disgrace. There are sooo many doing it

    • @Bluepillphil-d1w
      @Bluepillphil-d1w Před měsícem

      I know, they’re all over the place. I assume made by Indians for some reason. One I have seen spins total lies as well for clicks.

    • @Maaverick1995
      @Maaverick1995 Před měsícem +10

      Ruining CZcams in general. CZcams should prohibit such content.

    • @ryanparfet7374
      @ryanparfet7374 Před měsícem +1

      True but aero is still making it less awesome.

  • @Ninjatrouble
    @Ninjatrouble Před měsícem +44

    Another aspect that people are overlooking completely is that these riders now are the best that ever was. They're all so insanely good that they're all about at the same level of each other.... Thus adding to the difficulty of overtaking on top of all the tech they use now

    • @gnubbolo
      @gnubbolo Před měsícem +2

      starting to be a pilot as a child has raised the level like it has never been seen in history

    • @acog_quarks8753
      @acog_quarks8753 Před měsícem +1

      That’s just sports in general. Athletes are training younger and more efficiently so even the average athlete today is at the same level as greats of the past.

  • @FACUNDOX197
    @FACUNDOX197 Před měsícem +14

    Marc: it's difficult to overtake now *Proceeds to make 11 positions up during multiple races*

  • @bradmiller4885
    @bradmiller4885 Před měsícem +64

    Stupid tyre pressure rule needs to go.

    • @FurryestX
      @FurryestX Před měsícem

      True

    • @PhilipBurton-dn3ce
      @PhilipBurton-dn3ce Před měsícem +10

      The whole tyre rule needs to go or every manufacturer ends up designing a bike around a tyre performance

    • @AXO_4027
      @AXO_4027 Před měsícem +6

      exactly!! My biggest disappointment was Fabio Quartararo having 23rd to 3rd (a podium!!) only to hand it over to Dani Pedrosa after the race because of tyre pressure.

    • @careteknoniaga-oi7cm
      @careteknoniaga-oi7cm Před měsícem +1

      👍 💯

    • @rudolfkallang4085
      @rudolfkallang4085 Před měsícem

      It's not racing with technology,they racing with rules.

  • @cryogeneric
    @cryogeneric Před měsícem +28

    Respectfully disagree. I don't think MotoGP is boring at all and I don't know what you're watching to think otherwise. I feel like were close to 990 era. The only real criticism anyone could put forth would be Ducat's dominance, but they've earned that and we've seen Honda and Yamaha have the similar dominant runs in the last 20 years. My only concern are the 2027 rule changes to 850's. I don't see how we avoid the same corner speed issues we saw with the 800's. :\

    • @blackbadge_aq
      @blackbadge_aq Před měsícem

      💯

    • @fix0the0spade
      @fix0the0spade Před měsícem +4

      The coming 850s will be very different to the 800s. The 850s will be the same stroke as the current 1000s but with a smaller bore. They won't have the crazy revs and narrow power band the 800s did with their very short stroke large bore engines. They also won't have the insane electronics or the Bridgestone tyres of the 800s.

    • @cryogeneric
      @cryogeneric Před měsícem +1

      @@fix0the0spade Doesn't matter. Guys will make up for the loss of power using corner speed. Only a handful of riders will be able do this consistently--no other riding styles will work. I'd love to be wrong, but it's more likely to suck than not. Tires will evolve back into the 800 Bridgestone's with better edge grip, too

  • @gnubbolo
    @gnubbolo Před měsícem +29

    when the championships were dominated by Wayne Rainey and Doohan who won the races by 30 seconds where was the show?
    when Rossi and Marquez won 12 races out of 18, was the championship so fun?

  • @mtlfpv
    @mtlfpv Před měsícem +97

    i dunno, i think motogp is brilliant at the minute, its what f1 should be. The bikes are fast and look like spaceships and the racing is good.
    Also the idea that 'less overtakes means worse racing" is exactly how we end up with gimmicks like DRS.

    • @HungVu-ec3jk
      @HungVu-ec3jk Před měsícem +6

      and there still aren't enough overtakes in f1

    • @elcobra98
      @elcobra98 Před měsícem +10

      Yeah, brilliant until you realize the tyre manufacturer is either incapable or incompetent at creating tyres that don't need a special pressure rule to crutch for their inability. It's more aero than what the bikes can handle.

    • @chadwells7562
      @chadwells7562 Před měsícem +10

      @@elcobra98It’s almost more aero than the human body can handle. Braking forces have gone from 1.4 to 2g!!! They are getting rid of the ride height devices and limiting aero protrusions for the next technical rules, and reducing displacement / power so that should significantly limit the utility of aero.
      I can’t really fault Michelin for not having tires that can handle those forces. They’re completely unprecedented in motorcycles.

    • @elcobra98
      @elcobra98 Před měsícem +2

      @@chadwells7562 can't blame them, but I don't defend them either. They knew the regulations and didn't protest; and now riders have to pay for their inability to make a proper tyre.

    • @chadwells7562
      @chadwells7562 Před měsícem +2

      @@elcobra98 I don’t want to defend them, but there’s a lot of context here. Michelin can protest but FIM and the MSMA set the regs. Dorna politically battles the manufacturers to clamp down on this stuff and can eventually win but it’s not a fast process. Dorna and Carmelo specifically did a great job when the electronics went totally stupid. No one really anticipated the effect of the shapeshifters and I don’t think anyone understood how fast aero would develop. Michelin maybe should’ve but I can understand how they were caught flat footed. The next batch of regulations should do a lot to limit aero. Reducing the power will also much reduce the utility of aero since aero has a cost in terms of drag. It’s a virtuous cycle.

  • @future62
    @future62 Před měsícem +12

    The whole "there's less passing in MotoGP" thing is a strawman in 2024. Every other race there has been someone who gained like 10-12 positions. At CoTA Maverick ended lap 1 in P9 and won the race by nearly 2 seconds. Marc has been storming from the 4th row to podiums with alarming consistency. So what should I believe? This video or what I'm actually seeing in the races? This video feels like rage bait.

    • @LueXiong10
      @LueXiong10 Před měsícem +2

      I wouldn’t say it’s rage bait per se but a Luddite perspective. I say that the racing AND the sport in the past 5 years have been overall better than it has been in the decade before.

    • @DiscoStickDave
      @DiscoStickDave Před měsícem +2

      Totally agree, I've been watching MotoGP for 25 years and I'm thoroughly enjoying the action this season. I think people should stop comparing it to that 4wheeled procession, formula1 has always been boring, but the cars used to sound good

  • @md12318
    @md12318 Před měsícem +28

    Hmm..Vinales went from 12th to 1st in Texas this year

    • @zero1533
      @zero1533 Před měsícem +1

      Ok then compare the race in assen in 2018 vs 2024 it was a lot more exciting to watch in 2018

    • @WestbrickFansGotNoBrains
      @WestbrickFansGotNoBrains Před měsícem +1

      @@zero1533 2020-2022 was boring af. 2023-24 has gotten better in terms of overtaking

    • @zero1533
      @zero1533 Před měsícem

      @@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains I said 2018 buddy not 2020-2022

    • @WestbrickFansGotNoBrains
      @WestbrickFansGotNoBrains Před měsícem

      @@zero1533 buddy i don't disagree. im just saying 2020-2022 is the boring year, as compared to 2023-24 where the overtaking has picked up

    • @zero1533
      @zero1533 Před měsícem

      @@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains true but the last lap battles aren’t there in 2024 like 2017-2019

  • @chriis42
    @chriis42 Před měsícem +9

    i can’t lie this is the stupidest take.
    have you watched a single race this season? these races have been really exciting

    • @alexpaszly7511
      @alexpaszly7511 Před 14 dny

      Search here in CZcams MotoGP magnificent 7. Over a hundred overtakes. Yes this year is exciting but it was better before. trust me and this guy

  • @Bluepillphil-d1w
    @Bluepillphil-d1w Před měsícem +29

    I don’t know what works but I do know bike crowds love to complain a lot. Seems to me the rule makers always do a good job to react to challenges. This idea the racing is boring is a bit overblown. I watched all the two stoke era and those races were really spread out most of the time. People tend to put on the rose coloured glasses a bit looking back. And the 800s were awesome. Today the racing is good and the bikes look insane I think. Took me a while to adjust. Though the new reg to narrow the front aero will be good for aesthetics. The BMW superbike is the ugliest aero I’ve seen. But the aprilia looks a beast, and the ktm. Riders say these things at times, but I see Marquez coming from the back, so I think they complain a bit too. I heard Digi say how amazing the bikes are too ride and it changed my mind a bit. You all whine about anything. Very good video though. 👏

    • @mcrowl2823
      @mcrowl2823 Před měsícem +1

      💯

    • @FurryestX
      @FurryestX Před měsícem +6

      Bikers complain about street bikes having Traction control, when most of the times is because the previous model had thousands of crashes.
      Literally the brands are trying to keep their customers alive, and the customers complain 😂😂

    • @rowanedwards235
      @rowanedwards235 Před měsícem +2

      Both WSBK & MotoGP are very entertaining & highly competitive. I like yourself was in the action during the two stroke era, as a factory mechanic. I look on now with admiration for the evolving narrative & technological advances, as with rider skill . A most entertaining & informative video. Thankyou

    • @LueXiong10
      @LueXiong10 Před měsícem +2

      💯 Agreed. Prototype racing will always have the biggest nail to hammer because everything going forward is largely unknown. There’s also ton of other context as well… Too much for this comment section. 🤣

  • @brdllc
    @brdllc Před měsícem +15

    I don’t care, the new regulations will be cool to see. And also I loved the 800cc era, the bikes were sick and sounded insane

    • @Bluepillphil-d1w
      @Bluepillphil-d1w Před měsícem

      I agree. I’ve watched it all for years and I don’t recall being bored.

    • @FurryestX
      @FurryestX Před měsícem +3

      The sound was cool, but 800cc control like S**t there is way more vibrations and less stable behaviour, Rossi hated those bikes, im more a 750cc guy or a 1000cc... well se how it turns out

    • @WestbrickFansGotNoBrains
      @WestbrickFansGotNoBrains Před měsícem

      ah the 4 aliens era. that was peak

  • @zelcpavle5494
    @zelcpavle5494 Před měsícem +18

    They are not...i think the lap times that are broken every time is just great 🔥👍

    • @f0en966
      @f0en966 Před měsícem +3

      Its not a Time Trail Series its call Moto Racing :D

    • @jesterapp
      @jesterapp Před měsícem +3

      Agreed. I want the aero and holeshot devices. I want the fastest and newest prototype bikes. Shrinking the engines and the aero is gonna ruin motogp. We're gonna go years without setting lap records again.

    • @f0en966
      @f0en966 Před měsícem

      @@jesterapp fuck lap recorder man go watch Hill climb then

    • @HungVu-ec3jk
      @HungVu-ec3jk Před měsícem

      @@jesterapp that's why moto2 is better to watch

    • @brdllc
      @brdllc Před měsícem

      @@jesterappits gonna be just like the 800’s and they’ll be breaking records within a year or two

  • @rapid13
    @rapid13 Před měsícem +1

    The 800s were _never_ “so good.” They were homogenous. They were also the 4-stroke version of the high strung 2-strokes, and quite unforgiving. This means that there was only one fast line through every corner, and getting off line cost time that couldn’t be made up. Hence the boredom.

  • @adampeterson8820
    @adampeterson8820 Před měsícem +2

    I watch it all. The skill level and tech are why MotoGP IS the pinnacle. So much faster than the other organizations.

  • @MrAckers75
    @MrAckers75 Před měsícem +1

    Getting tired of this……nobody seemed to complain when Honda won year after year

  • @jayanand_1993
    @jayanand_1993 Před měsícem +1

    2020-22 was peak entertainment. literally anybody could win

  • @whitelineinmind
    @whitelineinmind Před měsícem +1

    As a motorcycle rider now for over 62 years, gratefully I’ll add as I’ll try to share, enjoyably I hope also for any who care.
    These MotorGP riders are as good as they can get on any of their 2 wheeled machines, 10/10 th’s as it were at the point of balance riding past the point of no return.
    The intimacy required and the results of riding to such degree’s, can be experienced to the limit at the pinnacle personally speaking at the Isle of Man.
    Man n machines …technology is one thing yet there’s a limit,
    called physics,
    coz man it ain’t any of them riders not feeling while hammering hard and twisting it.
    🏍😎🌏💜

  • @leecutler1527
    @leecutler1527 Před měsícem

    Motogp should stick with what they have now, but no more aero, front, and rear ride height devices and no tyre pressure rules. If you want to make them slower, don't change to 860cc. Just make the tyres worse... to can only ride to the grip available

  • @jahshjahsh2002
    @jahshjahsh2002 Před měsícem

    The dirty air and the extreme speeds are the diseases of racing.

  • @ampm9771
    @ampm9771 Před 18 dny +1

    in 2024, we're seeing the best racing ever. Most exciting racing there has ever been. Stop complaining because your hero ain't winning.

  • @rubenprasad9295
    @rubenprasad9295 Před měsícem

    A once great sports stripped down bare by technology and electronics. Miss the era where both 2 and 4 stoke raced at once.

  • @skinf
    @skinf Před měsícem

    Winglets look stupid. Aero appendages should only be allowed in Pikes Peak racing format. In circuit racing, it should only be allowed an integral part of the bike. even if it means a longer braking distance.

  • @Mcali1984
    @Mcali1984 Před měsícem

    Aero does not give riders half the distance to break in MotoGP. That was a huge exaggeration. Also, people like Moto2 and Moto3 because the bikes are so close that the racing is so competitive. You don’t want the bikes so close to MotoGP because it makes it hard to overtake? That statement is contradictory. The thing is, Ducati is dominating. It’s that simple. Ducati has the best bike on the grid. Which is why Marc left Honda. Same reason why Lewis is leaving Mercedes in F1. It’s simple. If you got the best riders in the best bikes, it’s going to be a short season. You cannot nerf riders. The point is to be the fastest with what you can do. Some teams do that much better than others. That’s just how it goes. Honda has so much RnD, but that lagged for so long because Marc rode that inferior bike to its full potential. Now look where they are. Riders need more credit for what they can do in a bike. Fr.

  • @fuzzblightyear145
    @fuzzblightyear145 Před měsícem

    in case no one has said it already: "take a drink every time he says 'overtaking'"

  • @ishmann_singh
    @ishmann_singh Před měsícem

    I think the problems really aren't as bad as they seem to be.Yes, they do exist but motogp still has a title fight, there are plenty of exciting overtakes even if they are fewer in number and it's still exciting enjoyable to watch. I believe 2027 regulations should improve things, temporarily at least.

  • @BoneyMB
    @BoneyMB Před měsícem

    That way WSBK is more interesting and more to real life motorcycles. And TT.

  • @jfseaman1
    @jfseaman1 Před měsícem

    "Technology" is a bummer when it allows "haves" vs "have not".
    F1 and F2 now have DRS. I don't like it because it gives an unearned advantage to the following car. This was done for the "show" or "spectacle" of the race, not to level the playing field.
    "Through skill and guile to prevail on the day" is my racing rule. Electronics is not skill or guile.
    I wish all active components were banned. TC, ABS, movable surfaces, ride height adjusters. It would make the "set up compromise" a thing again.
    but...
    I don't make the rules. Dorner and Liberty Media want a "show" that will get people into the stands and the video on screens. That's it. So, rules will be made to make a show. F2 needed something so LM and FIA put in DRS. IMO, it did not make things better.
    Dorner and LM will have things put in that make a "show".
    my 2p worth..

  • @Tubesmaney
    @Tubesmaney Před měsícem

    Certainly things can be better, and I hope the rule changes abolishing the use of aero bits coupled with less power make for more passing - but I still find current racing very exciting. I don't know, I like seeing guys flying down the track at 200+mph and then turning with their elbow on the ground and find it pretty entertaining. But yeah, the aero has to go I guess, though I like it.

  • @LS-uv9gg
    @LS-uv9gg Před měsícem +1

    I stopped watching almost all wheeled motor sports years ago, except for Isle of Man/Any Irish races/Rally/Stadium/Super Trucks. (no, those last two aren't Monster Trucks, lol) because of the Rich Elitism and ridiculously obnoxious rules. F1 and 500/250 Grand Prix used to be AWESOME! Now, yeeeeuck! No thanks.

    • @servethesongs
      @servethesongs Před měsícem

      you still watch

    • @LS-uv9gg
      @LS-uv9gg Před měsícem

      @@servethesongs No, I do not watch Formula1, or MotoGP/Moto2/Moto3. BECAUSE OF THEIR SILLY RULES. Does this help?

  • @_getnoobednxgen1897
    @_getnoobednxgen1897 Před 5 dny

    I am a new fan, starting watching this year, and I noticed that too, I much prefer Moto2 and 3. However Formula 1 this year is very entertaining tho

  • @DennisMerwood-xk8wp
    @DennisMerwood-xk8wp Před měsícem

    MotoGP is getting worse! Yeah right! Only nearly 200,000 fans at the last two races!

  • @smooches358
    @smooches358 Před měsícem

    IMO MotoGP has been more exciting than ever, despite having too many dumb rules like tire pressure. If you want to blame something blame the stewards who are very inconsistent with their punishments.

  • @Tigermountin
    @Tigermountin Před měsícem

    Not sure I agree, good racing and an even grid when it comes to good drivers. What I don’t like is prob numbers of ducatis at the moment and the tyre pressure rule.

  • @unionrdr
    @unionrdr Před měsícem

    I still say they need to get rid of all this low-jack BS. No wings on bikes either. Start putting the skill back in the driver/rider's hands! Like it was in my day. Now it seems more like a race between al the tech heads low jacking everything. It's only good to a point, folks. Then the computers in the machine are better than you could ever hope to be!

  • @dkf2711
    @dkf2711 Před měsícem

    MotoGP should use stock bikes that are available for anyone to buy. With the stock mufflers and everything. Not even fuel maps. My flashed bike should be faster than theirs, so it's the skill of the riders at play and also so that all that engineering they are doing can be applied to the bikes we can actually buy. And it will make the sport more accessible and more popular.

    • @rienkhoek4169
      @rienkhoek4169 Před měsícem +1

      That would be Superbike. It exists.

    • @MrAckers75
      @MrAckers75 Před měsícem

      That’s wsbk we already have that

  • @Markbell73
    @Markbell73 Před měsícem

    No aero. Carburetors only. And manual clutch.
    No ABS No TCS. Fixed non adjustable suspension.
    Arguable ^ ^ ??

    • @Markbell73
      @Markbell73 Před měsícem

      Stop chasing laptimes. Stop chasing records.
      Only chasing the rider in first.is allowed.

    • @n111254789
      @n111254789 Před 2 dny

      Current bikes would be absolutely unridable they would have to drop significant power. I'd say no traction control or abs but aero should be allowed. It's still down to rider skill dirty air isn't nearly as big of difference in motogp as it is in f1.

  • @SrchangwaytogoC
    @SrchangwaytogoC Před měsícem +8

    All you gotta do to make MotoGP exciting again is BRING BACK THE GRID GIRLS!

    • @alexpaszly7511
      @alexpaszly7511 Před 14 dny

      Not sure what you're watching but the grid girls are there

    • @Exodus_44
      @Exodus_44 Před 6 dny

      just watch porn bro

  • @varunsobhan47
    @varunsobhan47 Před měsícem +3

    Ban wings and aero components, period.

  • @Unamatrix01
    @Unamatrix01 Před měsícem

    From an engineering perspective a crucial factor you neglected to mention are the tires and temperature sensitivity.The Michelin tires especially the front tires were not designed to handle the increased downforce loads created by the front wings.That causes hysteretic heating of the tire and therefore increases the pressure.The 2027 Moto GP regulations also will have a newly designed front tire which may be raced in 2026.The 2027 regulations reduce the size of the front wings and the nose faring.The bikes will still be generating downforce in the vertical position and ground-effect when leaning over to corner,thus still generating an aero-map with a turbulent termination point.The ability for the riders to brake later to setup corner entry will still exist.There many be more overtakes at corner exit due to the removal of the rear ride-height device.Traction control along with variable engine braking and wheelie control have greatly limited the amount of devastating high-sides in Moto GP.There will be at minimum the same amount of overtakes in Moto GP in 2027 as there are now.Rider skill I.e. race craft will be the variable that either increases or decreases overtaking.

  • @jk_46
    @jk_46 Před měsícem

    500cc 2T with no fancy electronics or aero and motogp will be saved!

  • @WestbrickFansGotNoBrains
    @WestbrickFansGotNoBrains Před měsícem

    i mean in recent years in getting better. 2020-2022 was boring af.
    2023-24 has much more overtaking now.

  • @Joonzes2
    @Joonzes2 Před měsícem +3

    STOP saying that aero is ruining racing, do you guys not watch it? is allowing the bikes to be on top, to be the fastest and gives us much better racing, if you think a rocket going past another at 300 kph then i’m sorry the problem is not on the racing is on the watcher, it’s progress and if you’re not ready for it is fine, just don’t try to push it back cause then it will make it less enjoyable. The sachsenring race this year was so enjoyable such good racing, good races so far, i don’t know what moto gp you’re watching.

  • @SONO4B11T
    @SONO4B11T Před měsícem

    Complaining about overtaking, but supplying no statistics on it.

  • @anirudhauttarkar8806
    @anirudhauttarkar8806 Před měsícem

    MM be like what you talking about 😂
    Overtakes, no aero on one side, no windshield, still on podium 😂

  • @HeyAddieImTojo
    @HeyAddieImTojo Před měsícem

    It also show the difference in each bikes capability. I mean marc going from wins to scraping by on honda, quartararo going from chamion to nowhere in 2 seasons

  • @chrisdadda
    @chrisdadda Před měsícem

    The problem is that Ducati is too damn good right now. Their bikes are and team of riders are damn near locking out the podium from other manufacturers. Since their rider group will thin out in 2025, teams MAY have a chance but Pecco and Marquez are going to Dominate!!!!!

  • @VRMirko
    @VRMirko Před měsícem

    Ok, but why don't you talk about the tyres? They are a big part of the problem since they change completely their behavior in the change of 0.1bar. And now, with the insane rule of a minumum pressure for a certain number of laps it is even worse.

  • @Sand_1995
    @Sand_1995 Před měsícem

    Jerez 2024 alone proves this video wrong

  • @indochinaconnex4308
    @indochinaconnex4308 Před měsícem

    Is there actually factually less over takes ? You do get the odd race but honestly, it’s still very exciting. People will just always complain. And positive videos don’t work with the algorithm. Not saying it couldn’t be better but it’s honestly not bad at all !!!!

  • @lancemurdoc6744
    @lancemurdoc6744 Před měsícem

    Motogp stuck inside of a subsistance crisis. They want to be the crown of motorcycle racing. But since the end of the 2 stroke aera SBK and Motogp get closer and closer. All the ride-height nonsense and wing-menace are required to stay on top. Otherwise the tire and the skill of the rider would set natural borders to the useful power of the bike...judt like it happen in the 500ccm 2 stroke aera. But manufacturers don't want "sport", the want marketing. Therefore they talk about the "show".

  • @blackbadge_aq
    @blackbadge_aq Před měsícem

    Uncompetitive japanese brands are making it boring.

  • @doodpersoon
    @doodpersoon Před měsícem

    Stuff like this tend to happen to premier class sports (not just racing). Moto3 has way more overtaking than Motogp. It's insane to watch. A avarage Mazda MX5 cup is way more entertaining than a average F1 race. But the same goes for sports like Football / soccer. Most end tournament finales are quite boring. Neither team can't afford a mistake so no risks are taken.
    But it's still the best of the rest. The best sportsmen with the best equipment fighting it out.

  • @MrAngelEGR
    @MrAngelEGR Před měsícem +1

    When I tell you that I RAN when I saw the new video banner.

  • @adamcarroll2366
    @adamcarroll2366 Před měsícem

    Not to take away from this excellent informative video, but you can notice the grey area where opinion merges in and out of facts. Is it really more so the competition is more fierce and its just more difficult to overtake? If ALL riders have the same aero, and holeshot and lowering devices, wouldn't that be the great equalizer? All records are being smashed at the moment on distance, and lap times, also true in WSBK. Let's hope we don't start seeing a modified production bike that costs $35k circling Aragon quicker than a multi-million dollar prototype motogp 800cc. Careful what you wish for...

  • @michakucharczyk4127
    @michakucharczyk4127 Před měsícem

    "Moto2 hasn't problem with overtaking" did u ever watch medium class race?

  • @diyaudinsumber7166
    @diyaudinsumber7166 Před měsícem

    MotoGP requires Marc or Enea to start the race in the mid or back row, so that becomes interesting.
    Big winglets not only ruining MotoGP but also WSBK, make superbikes ugly and become heavier because more downforce makes the rider tired quickly

    • @FurryestX
      @FurryestX Před měsícem +1

      TF you talking mate, i LOVE the Wings on bikes, they look like spaceships

    • @diyaudinsumber7166
      @diyaudinsumber7166 Před měsícem

      yeah,, ai beliiiff ai ken flaiiii

  • @Kneedragon1962
    @Kneedragon1962 Před měsícem

    I'd like to ban ride height, front and rear, and I'd like to ban aero. Unfortunately, you can't.
    They had one go at this in the 1950s, they banned dustbin fairings.
    Even without any bodywork or external panels of any kind, the bike and rider will still pass through the air, and there are aerodynamics that describe this. One bike is likely to have lower drag than another. One bike is likely to build a region of high pressure air in front of the rider's knee, while the other lets that air out more efficiently, so it doesn't generate lift when the rider puts his knee down. That may not constitute 'down-force' but it is an absence of lift, and that's going to provide an advantage in fast corners. That advantage may coincide with chassis geometry that seems to promote cornering, (I'm thinking Yamaha while Lorenzo was there) or it may effect Ducati where they picked up cornering in fast corners and nobody could figure out why. They had suction between the side of the fairing, and the track. Repeat, I'd love to see that shit banned, but you can't ban it. If you take away their bodywork, they'll just shape the engine and radiator overflow and airbox to give them that shape again anyway.
    It's like racing rowing boats but banning water. You can't.
    "It's not a cooling scoop for the rear tyre, it's the structure of the swing-arm." Oh bullshit! We're not blind!
    Aero entered car racing in a big way, with the birth of down-force. Once they realised it was more advantageous to make 50kg of down-force, even it it cost 30kg of drag, you couldn't put the genie back in the bottle.
    You could make rules about side skirts, but then they just gave the cars no suspension. A modern open wheeler is a lot like a gokart. Most of the 'suspension' is in the tyres. Once the community realised how big an impact down-force made, you can't get rid of it.
    There used to be rules about no moveable aerodynamics. Now we have Drag-Reduction-System that's exactly that, because otherwise, overtaking is completely impossible.
    Lots of words. Do I have an answer? No, there isn't one. I'd fight ride height, I'd fight traction control, and I'd try to restrict or limit aero as much as you can, but you literally can't stop it. That'd be like having a boat race without water.

  • @langgengpangestu9263
    @langgengpangestu9263 Před měsícem

    Its becoz the rider today would think more before the do such silly things or dangerous over take. They have to make it clean. Anything happen on the race will be investigated and could have cost them if they are proved irrespondisble riding.

  • @chrisdadigger1018
    @chrisdadigger1018 Před měsícem

    They need to just go back to 500cc 2 strokes

  • @FurryestX
    @FurryestX Před měsícem +3

    WE ARE HAVING THE BEST CHAMPION BATTLE SINCE 2015
    WTF ARE YOU TALKING FAM???
    Bruh, OldSchool Bikers complain about EVERYTHING😂😂🤣
    Still i understand your point

    • @gnubbolo
      @gnubbolo Před měsícem

      Unfortunately, the era of pure sport is over and winning too much makes lobbyists want to change the rules to overthrow the hierarchies. In fact I don't think it matters to the TV show, after a couple of years the rivals usually get technically close to the best. Aprilia will be competitive next year for example. But if the rules change, those who study the vehicle in advance will enter the game with an abysmal advantage (see F1 with Mercedes and then Red Bull), dominating for a five-year period until the new rule change. it's not sport, it's not show, it's just business.

  • @Sand_1995
    @Sand_1995 Před měsícem

    Bro yaps a lot without knowing moto gp is at the best it's ever been. We are looking at the golden era of moto gp.

  • @vigneshwaran7437
    @vigneshwaran7437 Před měsícem

    Marc still overtaking everybody like overtaking a bus😂 they are hopeless if MotoGP ban aero Marc will win 10 titles consecutively

  • @zsomborbauer5524
    @zsomborbauer5524 Před měsícem

    In catalunya you have to brake a lot earlyer that that

  • @lonelywolf3209
    @lonelywolf3209 Před měsícem

    Aero dynamics r fine but electronics should b reduced to minimum to explore the true talented riders

  • @AggVagga
    @AggVagga Před měsícem

    Couldn't find solutions like F1 did to make overtakes easier? I agree that primary it's a show but what about the evolution of the bikes? I mean don't you think that this has to be a priority too? So that to see all these clever solutions like the aero fairing finally applied on the street superbikes?

  • @themost8984
    @themost8984 Před měsícem

    But why keep the aero??

  • @jellyxxi9975
    @jellyxxi9975 Před měsícem

    NGL marquez is the only one making motogp intresting from his comebacks! Yall haters needs to get a slap reality check

  • @04miron80
    @04miron80 Před měsícem

    I think you are wrong in your thought process. The closer the times are the easirler the overtaking is. For example when f1 introduced the new rules everyone had different concepts, and there were big gaps between drivers in the race. But now teams have caught up and there is good racing again. Also motogp has a show and tell system so every team has the holeshot now for example. So banning it is useless at this point. What you said at the 2nd part is also contradictory since you said the braking is later and the riders cant risk that much. But you also said the rider behind on a straight gets an advantage, which will help them overtake. Marc marquez just rode from 13th to 2nd in the german gp, and that shows it all.

    • @elsa4250
      @elsa4250 Před měsícem

      it's just all wrong tho. F1 even nowadays has overtakes just thanks to DRS. look at GT3 cars u need a better exit, those 3kph u gained in exit will end up being 3 tenths by the end of the straight. in F1 the hard part still remains, which is getting closer. And to get closer, drivers tend to use quite some battery just to close the gap, rather than using it for attacking, thus why even with the drs open sometimes they cant make the lounge down the inside (+ the fact that u go from 0.7 to 0.3 on the straight and go back to 0.8 on corners cuz of dirty air). Tho if u do manage to get at 0.4 before the drs zone and u have enough battery, u will be 10 to 20kph faster than ur opponent. Good job, what an overtake... really outskilled him yes... You could say it's fair since the guy behind trying to catch up with the dirty air will nearly always, have less battery to attack... but on a normal overtake situation the DRS just gifts u a free overtake before the braking zone. Many overtakes in F1 sometimes happen before they even reach the braking point.
      Being closer to eachother doesnt mean more overtakes. it can just create trains and riders just not being able to close enough the distance before the straight cuz of dirty air.
      It just means everyone is closer so they can have the opportunity to overtake, which is hard to get if u constantly lose on corners cuz dirty air.
      As much as longer braking points means less time to gain on the straight, it means you have more time to understand what's going on underbraking, easier management of braking, and gives you more time to aim at the exact point to compromise your opponent's line.
      In 4 wheels racing, vehicles are wide enough that if they dive down the inside they will 80% compromise the line of the other vehicle since in many tracks 2 cars are anough to cover the entire track sometimes. Motorcycles are way smaller. if u dive down the inside and go wide, u wont neccessarily compromise the other rider's line since your bike is small enough to get away from his line in time for a switch back. To divebomb correctly you would need to dive in, and end up side by side to push wide your opponent, compromising their line. This is why a longer braking point could help in attacking situations under braking.
      Although yes, it does mean less time to gain time on straight.

  • @Vixen1525
    @Vixen1525 Před měsícem

    Wait.. Your voice sounds like the guy from "Iceberg Tech". Are you the same person?

  • @JWestsiders87
    @JWestsiders87 Před měsícem

    MotoGP has long been boring....except for those who like certain riders winning of course!! And MotoGP being boring has nothing to do with what saw said in this video! C'mon man!!!Lol

  • @user-rc8oy1nm1d
    @user-rc8oy1nm1d Před měsícem +1

    Stay with 1000 cc and bring back 1990s regulations, zero electronics other than fly by wire and fuel injection and zero aerodynamics.
    Make it a test of rider skill like it used to be.

  • @TOMLINBISH
    @TOMLINBISH Před měsícem +2

    ALL this ruinously expensive aero and gizmo crap that does nothing for the quality of racing should've been reined in years ago! 😡

  • @tradesman1000
    @tradesman1000 Před měsícem

    Agreed. 👍🏻 you can have too much tech.

  • @ironzombi
    @ironzombi Před měsícem

    Definitely not boring right now, although I am looking forward to the new bikes.

  • @tg91593
    @tg91593 Před měsícem +9

    Do you even watch moto gp? Its been pretty great the last few years. F1 doesnt even come close to what Moto Gp offers. This is just another clickbait video.

    • @FurryestX
      @FurryestX Před měsícem

      At the end of the day, it doesnt matter if its worse to drive... it creates AWESOME Spectacle, and Great Races in 2024, and thats what matters

  • @dougiequick1
    @dougiequick1 Před měsícem

    What the HELL are you talking about? There is plenty of excitement and you never know for SURE which riders will round out the podium ...Personally I would HATE if they made motorgp so equal that it becomes like moto3 where skill level is so damn close to equal along with machines...it becomes like who is the most frantic The only thing I can think of to make it more exciting is to maybe put the Japanese bikes on pole every race....or even a 3 second head start or something lol otherwise its just WHICH Ducati is gonna win this round....but hey that is still plenty exciting! plenty of Ducatis to root for ....maybe even an Aprillia gets up there now and then!....Marc can now fairly consistantly get a crappy place on the grid and STILL work his way to the front! You dont see that shit in F1!

  • @utuber4u1
    @utuber4u1 Před měsícem

    Does diet air affect MM93? Don't think so he's been coming from down in the pack to the front in almost every race now . He's should be called the OVERTAKING 👑 KING of this era !!!

  • @josecraftgt
    @josecraftgt Před měsícem

    marquez cooks from p13🗣🗣

  • @andrewparkinson7213
    @andrewparkinson7213 Před měsícem

    Why dose he keep saying easy to ride is he mad ????????

  • @peripheral1258
    @peripheral1258 Před měsícem

    Nonsense. With -as you say; 300 bhp: Do you really think these bikes are any easier to ride on their limit than your nostalgic bikes ? If the bikes still have 300bhp in 2027 then it will get real 'exciting' = dangerous as they need every device they can find with these engines.
    There have Always been only a half dozen guys that could content the first half of any race At Any Time and only four guys per Motogp race that were in there for the last two laps.
    F1 is boring because that has been reduced to particle physics and the cars are way beyond most of the classic tracks -especially Monaco and Montreal. Combine this with politics and Reg's and you have a dead sport. Whereas MotoGP's only major hindrance ...is that stupid tire pressure rule. We shall see what '27 brings but they will probably choose the least appealing and most PC/Green devaluation... I hope in '27 we'll see the Second season of Toprak in Motogp

  • @justicemoody
    @justicemoody Před měsícem

    Good info. There’s a lot there.

  • @coverthe1
    @coverthe1 Před měsícem +1

    The only ppl that believe this nonsense is the individuals who don’t watch Motogp or have a motorcycle. I truly have no issue with majority of the content you push but now I’m out.. stop pushing misinformation just because you think you know.

  • @dudej9123
    @dudej9123 Před měsícem +2

    No aero. No ride height. No holeshot. No mass dampeners. Easy fix.

  • @fathertimegaming17
    @fathertimegaming17 Před měsícem +2

    So MotoGP truly is the formula 1 of motorcycle racing.

  • @mohdothmansaid7618
    @mohdothmansaid7618 Před měsícem +1

    Should go back to basics like oil two stoke era , include only essential safety items , so it will show true color of the rider.
    Yes its boring to see bikes equipped with so sophisticated technologies and won the race.

  • @stefandrift99
    @stefandrift99 Před měsícem

    Telling us that rossi has 7 titles just screams u watched 5 races in your life, disliked

  • @shawarmaman907
    @shawarmaman907 Před měsícem

    active aero in motogp?

  • @kamiltupatowicz5161
    @kamiltupatowicz5161 Před měsícem

    Great stuff, thanks!

  • @andrewhayes4246
    @andrewhayes4246 Před měsícem

    I am appalled that nobody saw this coming I was forecasting it from when 'aero' started being talked about. Basically, nothing that doesn't benefit road bikes should be allowed. Aero doesn't work at road speeds and disappears when bikes come up to the overtaking position behind cars.
    Ridiculous and dangerous.

  • @izmesamsung2581
    @izmesamsung2581 Před měsícem +2

    Yo Dan, Valentino Rossi is NINE times World Champion - not just seven!
    Oopsie hmm?

    • @Icem4n84
      @Icem4n84 Před měsícem

      7 times in the top class, which is the topic he was referring to.

  • @louiseitner916
    @louiseitner916 Před měsícem +1

    MotoGP boring af at the moment

  • @SatsJava
    @SatsJava Před měsícem +4

    Bring back 2 stroke motogp

  • @akashnag3879
    @akashnag3879 Před měsícem

    Thanks for addressing this. I currently am enjoying Moto2 more than MotoGP. I am tired of seeing 1st 4 ducatis in the race always.

  • @f0en966
    @f0en966 Před měsícem +2

    People defending aero is just MAD
    Fuck that aero and use not that much

    • @FurryestX
      @FurryestX Před měsícem

      U Mad Bro?
      Keep taking Copium old man, Get with the times dude, to overtake you only need BALLS🤟🤟🤟

  • @vadergrd
    @vadergrd Před měsícem

    these things are going away pretty soon .even so it s great racing!!!

  • @flatcapcaferacer
    @flatcapcaferacer Před měsícem

    Well done!

  • @decomcgurk
    @decomcgurk Před měsícem

    b4 max there was loo iss

  • @ethanterrania3232
    @ethanterrania3232 Před měsícem

    Just to put it out there. They should put Drs system in the bikes so they can overtake in the straights them, they could also make bikes with ground effect aero like f1 so no more dirty air.

  • @BatFastard01
    @BatFastard01 Před měsícem

    No ride height devices, no wings and no T\C. Just rider, bike and the right wrist. Rider manages the tyres and conditions of the track as best they can. Ride by wire throttle or Good old fashioned cable to the throttle bodies? Milkman. 😎