The Biggest Tesla Myth SOLVED
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I don’t know why people think the Model Y is so much heavier than other vehicles for its size. It’s literally within a couple hundred pounds of every luxury ICE SUV it’s size.
In 2021 a report by Dr Euan McTurk, commissioned by the RAC, concluded that tyre wear is determined more by driving style than weight and that fleet owners found that the tyres on their EVs wore down at a ‘broadly similar rate to ICE cars’.
I get the weight and I also get the instant torque. There’s one other item the most important one it’s called happy right foot.
Weight can't be avoided, but wear from torque should be a simple choice of drive mode. Surely a compromise or just a gentler throttle map would help.
Hmm my wife's Model Y has 25,000 miles and the tires look great. How do you guys drive?
Wow, I can’t believe you’ve had a change your tires three times already. I have a 2021 model Y with 27,000 miles and the tires are still in great shape.
This genius will always go through tires because of his driving patterns lol you can give him 200k tires and he will wear them out in 6 months lol and he thinks he solved the mystery 😂😂😂
I get 30K on our Y tires. Would probably do better but do enjoy the power and handling a bit much.
Love your channel Ben. My wife and I have been driving EVs for the last 7 years and have had zero tire wear issues. Even with my wife's lead foot. I understand the weight and torque, and I thought I would have had issues, but have seen just normal wear.
Not my experience with a model 3 and y, both have done 20km and barely can see the wear. Tyre quality is key, I’ve driven both fairly hard
I haven’t had any unusual issues with my tires. I have a 2018 Tesla model three. The main thing I have trouble with early on was with the 20 inch wheels. Every time I hit a road pothole and get a flat tire. I switched out to 19 inch rims and haven’t had any problems since.
Ben, check your alignment. Mine and all my friends Teslas had a bad alignment from the factory.
The myth is at the car is heavier. I’ve had my car for 54,000 miles and change the tires at 34,000 miles because I got a nail in the tire and could not be replaced. My front tires were still good but I changed them out due to the fact that I was changing brands, because of the rubber band look of the undersize tires for the car. The front tires still had 5/32 still left. I then changed to Falken FX 460. 275 in the front and 295 in the back with a little bit under 20,000 miles my tires are still good. I probably would have to change my back tires within the next 15,000 miles. I am an Uber driver and on the road all day long doing over 250 miles a day and I do not have a problem with the tires, the issue I believe is leaving the car in sport mode
Depends on the EV tires you buy. Keep in mind the Tesla Model 3 curb weight for the RWD Model is within 300 lbs of a Toyota Camry. So the Model 3 is not that heavy.
Nor does the high torque tear up tires unless you drive fast. And in that case, a Camry will wear out tires just as fast as a Model 3.
I bought Walmart tires. 60k. Miles 113 dollars a piece. Love them.
I got the Hankook Evo Ion tires. Very quiet, comfortable ride. Much quieter than my stock tires were. I don’t get quite as much road fuel from the tires, but I’m willing to trade that off for the sound reduction.
I drive my 3 in chill mode at all times. No reason to always waste the power and tires for not reason. I only switch modes to show off the car. That’s happening less and less now that more are on the road.
I got 37k miles on the original 20” tires on my March 2020 Model Y LR with acceleration boost. I’m not sure why you are going through them so fast.
I think the most important factor in this subject is left out, as it is usually the case with US CZcamsrs... The fact of the matter is that roads are crap in the US on average, that is the main issue.
Most CZcamsrs and users in Europe actually say the opposite about EVs... they are lighter on tyres and as a M3 LR owner myself, I can say the same thing. There are plenty of videos out there from Europe where they change tyres at 40-50k miles and they are still in good shape... And it makes sense. Torque is one factor, but I think it´s pretty much cancelled by the insanely good traction control in a Tesla (many corrections per second) that avoids spinning. Similarly, weight is a factor, but weight distribution is probably more important. On a recent video they weighted a new M3 and it was pretty much dead on 25% on each tyre.
I think EVs are not worse on tyres, at least Teslas are not, more like the opposite... unless you are constantly flooring it, of course, at which point, you are going to eat through tyres no matter which car you own.
Nokia one all season 80,000 mi warranty Kevlar reinforced sidewalls 50 PSI went from 3.1 to 5 kWM in my Chevy Bolt rated cost was $160 for tire per tire best tire ever bought really quiet smoother ride
Just ordered four Bridgestone Turanza EV tires from Costco @ roughly $300/each. Didn't know how smart I was when I bought them. Thank youuuuuuu!
You and your wife must be instant torque enthusiasts. If I owned one it would be in chill mode 24/7
How are you going through tires like that!? Have just over 30k miles on my 3 but also have been good about tire rotations
I might drive a little fast 😅
“happy right foot”
I've been getting 40-50k Since my Model S 90D to My Model X P100D
the way they drive
2019 M3 LR RWD..continental tires from the factory lasted 36,000 miles. Just replaced them.
Judging by the center tire wear your tires are over inflated. Just sayin.
I got new tires for my model 3 about a year ago, original tires lasted about 3 years with mostly highway driving. My original Michelin tires were great in dry conditions but absolutely awful when wet, my car would fishtail from accelerating. The new ones are Continentals and they have been amazing wet or dry, and seem to be holding up great.
You guys must drive really aggressively. My 2019 Model 3 LR lasted 45,000 miles before replacement just past the 3 year mark. My 2nd set of tires are at 27,000 miles and look like I will reach 40K easily and probably much more. My 2021 Model Y Performance is currently at 37,000 miles with original set and I will have to replace the rears soon, probably at 40K, and the fronts could easily last another 10,000 although I'm likely to replace all 4, again at the 3 year mark. Since the tires are staggered I can't rotate front to back so the rears have just worn faster, I assume due to weight distribution. We drive probably 40% city 60% highway.
Good information, however, when I bought my 2018 Tesla model 3 performance? I took the OEM tires off and bought some tires online ( I won’t specify at this point) and much to my surprise, the tires I replaced them with has the same ratings, same size (might be an inch wider) and I currently have over 87,000 miles on them.( they still look great ) I just bought a performance 2023 model Y and I will keep these on to see what miles I can get on them. Oh the best part? Tires form Tesla cost me $450 each ( I had a nail that could not be patched) before I got home I got another nail. That’s why I bought my own.. and for only ?$100 each. I know how you like data.
Had a 2015 Model S 70D. OEM tires were good up to 34k miles .. Traded the car in 4th quarter last year and the tread on the replacement tires was in great shape.
This is ridiculous! It’s not just EV tires. Drive more carefully off the line.
How does the increased frequency in changing tires add to the true maintenance of an EV vs gas vehicle?
This is why I am excited for the Volvo EX30, because it is lighter, smaller, and more SUV-like, the tires should last way longer, and for the storage problem, i wish they will add an option for a trailer power and reverse power coupling, that allows you to use trailer (or camper) with batteries that can help the vehicle with the range, and with the same coupling you can use the vehicle to add to a solar home battery capacity in case of emergency shutdown because of storms, where you need to cover the solar panels. for about a week, and also an easy way for an extendable solar camper trailer to power the vehicle while camping. (being able to tow 1600kg matches well with a battery camper weight)
I have a Model Y with original tires at 32k miles. I thought I enjoyed the acceleration, you must really like it then.
Our 2019 Hyundai 28kWh Ioniq here in Aus was getting 50,000km per set of tyres.
Our 2022 Model Y is upto 20,000km over last 7 months and not much wear on the tyres as of yet
So what is the actual saving of switching from gas to EV
I hope Bridgestone will make the 18 inch for the Model 3.
My Model S is on its third set of Michelins, same type as originl equipment. Each set I replaced had a bit more than 30K miles on them, so they can last a lot longer than Ben's experience. My 70D is not a perfomance car, and maybe my foot is not as heavy as some people's..?
Curb rash on that wheel and happy foot explains it.
maybe most important is the subtle handling , ie the center of gravity is so very low, a driver, even Jenny, doesnt recognize how fast they are taking corners.
❤😊 thank you. a really good interesting topic. myself, we've been driving electric cars for 8 years. the first electric cars we didn't really notice much difference it was a front wheel drive Renault Zoe with adequate power but really nothing to boast about and for 2 years we don't average mileage and average wear for that particular carton. sold the car with the same tires as we bought it and it was second hand so no problem.. our second electric cars a BMW i3 with a lot more performance but it also had an extremely aggressive traction control on the back. so every time you put your foot down it was like granny was in charge again. the rear wheels rear tires did wear slightly quicker. we noticed being rear wheel drive and a little bit more performance but nothing particularly. I think we did 65,000 miles and one set of tires so I would say it was ok. it is a lightish for an electric car with its advanced construction.. however, then we had a BMW i3S which you could turn the contraction control virtually off. whoa! what are difference the first year? we've burnt our way through the first set of tires with 12,000, mi eeeeek. and we have noticed that the rear sets of tires it gets really quickly. we are now driving more carefully. so agree high performance cars burn tires.. however, also I noticed with the high performance front wheel drive car how it would shred tires within months if you really wanted to. so again, a bit of an interesting one... one thing I would say about electric cars in their favour if you drive them. not their full performance is because there's none of that gear changing and all that bouncing about. then the tires seem to be overall about the same wearing as internal combustion engine cars because they have less aggressive this when it comes to the gear changes and the talk to the tires. however, I do agree tire technology we could have shredless tires. we should have non-toxic tires and this should be made standard. I think we have the technology to make the 100,000 miles tire but capitalism puts an end to that I think.. thank you. really thought provoking and I was aware of this issue. although I'm not sure about the weight thing. a bit about to be throw it around corners. not sure.. although office do we need to get lighter cars? that is by far the best.. 😊 thank you buzz
I buy china tires, theyve lasted longer than the stock Michelin tires for my m3. Never looked back
How hard do these tyres have to be to get to 50000 miles? Maybe more importantly, how will they grip in wet and dry after 40000??
- looks great, but what about the actual ride? (I'm very very fond of the michelin ride, not so much the bridgestone though :) )
- also, I see you have some decent hub caps on your thumbnail car - was that hard to manage?
How much do they cost?
Out of curiosity (I don't know if it works the same as in Spain), are your tires certified for Tesla? In Spain you need to have special tires certified for Tesla vehicles (not just check the dimensions) and that might affect. I'm new on this so I might be wrong!
You and your wife must have lead feet. I have a model 3 and I'm on my 3rd season with the original tires and Probably have 2 seasons of life left. Similar wear to my old gas vehicles.
I don’t think they will cover normal wear under the 50k warranty, that would be insane
Tyres on an f1 car last between 10 to 40 laps or 20 to 80 miles.
Its about performance vs life of tyre.
Ill never forget doing a mercedes amg track day on sticky tyres.
How braking acceleration and cornering was twice as good as my all seasons fitted to my identical road car.
Evs like tesla want the grip 5o hajdle torque etc but not too much as effects range.
Add weight to the mix and high tyre pressures also and its just the cost of performance to have softer compound tyre for most performance.
It is not a miracle tyre it hust designed for longer life and will likely not perform as good in more performance style driving
It may work for your family car and be better option but likely has limits for some.
Umtil I drove an.identical car on all season tyres vs a track tyre I had no clue teally how much difference a tyre makes to a car.
Imagine fitting all season tyres to an f1 car and seeing how much slower it would be on a lap.
They put on a inteediate rain tyre and ho 8 secs a lap slower and those tyres wont do 80 miles.
Not everyone who buys a resla drives fast so your tyre could work for alot of families and choice a good thing.m
What About The Rivian ?
Are these buying the performance tires?
Myths aren't solved. Mysteries are solved.
The mystery here is no rational explanation for this guy's claims. The car isn’t that heavy. His right foot is heavy, most likely, and he grinds throigh high-g turns, probably.
This EV owner has 9 years and 40k miles on the original Michelin tires with a 30K miles tread wear warranty. Normally let the car start moving before pressing the accelerator. You must like jack rabbit starts?
Teslas are great;however, it's so ironic when people say, "I'm getting a Tesla because I care about the environment."
dood it is clearly your wife's driving habits. my Tesla y has 30k miles and original tires that just now need to be replaced.
Clueless bulshit about Tesla cars... To heavy etc rip the tires apart etc.
Three of my friends have Tesla's and don't have any of these problems with well over 500 kms