What makes EV tires different, and why should you fit them! 🔌

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  • čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
  • In this video I look at the differences between a regular road tire, and a tyre designed specifically for EVs, comparing them in safety tests such as braking, range tests and internal noise levels in the vehicle.
    Electric vehicles, otherwise known as EVs are quickly establishing themselves as a true rival to internal combustion engined (ICE) powered vehicles, and as such the tyre manufacturers are reacting with new tires and tyre technology.
    While electric cars look similar to "regular" vehicles, the extra weight of batteries, the extra torque from electric motors, the lack of noise from the engine and the desire for extra range to avoid charging means tires need to be developed differently for these unique EV requirements.
    The test vehicle is an Audi E-Tron, which is a beautiful full electric SUV from Audi, but this can apply to vehicles like the Tesla Model S, Tesla Model X, the Porsche Taycan and many other battery powered cars.
    Full information on the electric tyres used in this video can be found here:
    www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre/Hank...
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  • @ndc5544p
    @ndc5544p Před 2 lety +148

    I would like to see an array of tires tested on EVs, summer, winter and all-seasons. Preferably on a car that's got a more wider appeal than an Audi eTron, something like a ID.3, Zoe or a Tesla.

    • @seanpeacock5595
      @seanpeacock5595 Před 2 lety +18

      Wider appeal like a Zoe? 😂

    • @Maxzor11
      @Maxzor11 Před 2 lety +6

      @@seanpeacock5595 😂

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety +43

      working on it

    • @glashman
      @glashman Před 2 lety +27

      @@seanpeacock5595 Yes, a Zoe, for those people who want to dip their toe into the world of EV's, but haven't got £40k+ to spend.

    • @gaara4667
      @gaara4667 Před 2 lety +6

      @@seanpeacock5595 can you afford a Taycan?

  • @haileybenson9714
    @haileybenson9714 Před 2 lety +9

    Such a thorough explanation of everything, as the video continued I found myself having questions and then you answered them all! Such a good test!

  • @SteveLBMK
    @SteveLBMK Před 2 lety +147

    Don't have an EV and no immediate plans to buy one. Watched anyway because your content is always so interesting 👍👍👍

    • @seansimpson4472
      @seansimpson4472 Před 2 lety +1

      Can I ask why? I'm seriously considering an EV as my next car probably a tesla 3 or Jag I-pace as there more in my budget. But trying to gather opinions and data to help.

    • @themadjock1977
      @themadjock1977 Před 2 lety +6

      @@seansimpson4472 Don't worry what Steve or anyone else thinks, if an EV will work for you then go for it. From my point of view, I've had an Ioniq 28 kWh for three years and it’s been great. If those cars are in your budget I'd recommend the Tesla Model 3 or wait a little longer for the Model Y which has a hatchback and massive space. The Jag is not as efficient or technologically advanced but still lovely inside. Try both.

    • @tahsin28
      @tahsin28 Před 2 lety

      Thats everyone bruh. Like everyone.

    • @SteveLBMK
      @SteveLBMK Před 2 lety

      @@seansimpson4472 I thought I had posted a lengthy reply, but perhaps there was a technical glitch. Just to say that an EV is not for me because I do occasional long journeys to the in-laws of 100 miles plus and the combination of range anxiety and inadequate charging facilities puts me off. Having said that, if I did only short journeys, an EV would make very good sense, simply install a charger at home. Guy Martin did an excellent programme on this, on Channel 4, when he looked at setting a new speed record with an EV. Worth watching.

    • @bdeithrick
      @bdeithrick Před 2 lety

      Neanderthal

  • @Zak437
    @Zak437 Před 2 lety +5

    Been waiting aaaaall year for this one!!! Super glad it's finally here.

  • @DasHalbblut
    @DasHalbblut Před 2 lety +40

    Amazing test as always, Jonathan. Even when you do not have access to a test facility, you do a fantastic job of making the comparison as scientific as possible.

  • @dufonrafal
    @dufonrafal Před 2 lety +30

    Loved it ! Learned a few things :)
    With all those EV tyres becoming available a big test with a comparison to their counterpart is necessary! :)
    Also, a dedicated test of “ultra low rolling resistance tires” such as EcoContact 6 and e•Primacy please :)

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety +18

      Both are on the list, just takign some time to plan!

    • @oldschoolman1444
      @oldschoolman1444 Před 2 lety

      Stiff sidewalls have less lateral wash and lower roll resistance. I had a set on my little car and loved them. I don't like the one's I have now and wish I would have put the tires I had on before.The tires I liked weren't ev tires but same concept.

  • @cherylheater4347
    @cherylheater4347 Před 2 lety

    I just bought a Honda Clarity PHEV and am researching winter tires. I found your winter tire review helpful, so I watched this. It was reassuring for future all season choiches. Thanks!

  • @abr555
    @abr555 Před 2 lety +1

    Top notch test/analysis/commentary as always, but maybe even more so. Also really appreciate the part at the end on EVs. I also used to say never to an EV, but now warming up to the idea for a family cehicle. Curious if the findings will be similar for other brand/category/size ev vs regular tires.

  • @TheTallRaver
    @TheTallRaver Před 2 lety +3

    A very interesting test! Was wondering about the difference for a while now! Thanks buddy!👍👍👍

  • @Alex11Magic
    @Alex11Magic Před 2 lety +66

    How soon do you reckon the All Season comparison will be out? I am set for this year and the one to come, but I find that your videos also have some entertaining value, so I like watching them even when I am not in the market for new tyres :) Also, reaaaally looking forward to see how my Vectors 3 compare to the CC2

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety +45

      Next monday!

    • @Beorn.
      @Beorn. Před 2 lety +4

      On the strength of a previous review from here I bought Michelin Crossclimate tyres for my current car and they have been great. I will certainly be fitting the cc2's next time.

    • @TollyTolly
      @TollyTolly Před 2 lety +1

      Yes, that what I want to see, as in UK we have very mild winter, but still a bit of snow, can't see any reason to go for winter tyres, but all season can be an option

    • @fredrikalfson1541
      @fredrikalfson1541 Před 2 lety

      All season tires is a marketing scam. There are summer tires, and then there are winter tires with or without studs.

  • @Nicoolai
    @Nicoolai Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for the good video! I was waiting for this kind of video. Looking forward to similar content!

  • @beachbumis
    @beachbumis Před 2 lety +1

    Great content, looking forward to your future EV related info!

  • @AndyC2_
    @AndyC2_ Před 2 lety +3

    Amazing review once again 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
    Cannot wait for the all season tyre comparison I think is coming 🤞🏼🤞🏼

  • @darreno1450
    @darreno1450 Před 2 lety +4

    Very helpful video! I'm about to get another set of tires for my Tesla and was contemplating going with non-EV ones, but your video have convinced me otherwise. Subscribed!

  • @davidellis1355
    @davidellis1355 Před 2 lety +12

    Great content as always ... I've been waiting for this, as recently bought an Leaf and fitted some efficient grip 2's and so far I've been happy with the choice, it's about 1000kg lighter then the e-tron so hopefully will be ok

  • @fpartidafpartida
    @fpartidafpartida Před 2 lety

    Great video. Thanks for making this and “Hi” from across the pond in the States.

  • @stevel1973
    @stevel1973 Před 2 lety +3

    Great video as usual, Jonathan. Very informative.

  • @Kowen8714
    @Kowen8714 Před 2 lety +122

    Well, now I know why my Polestar 2 lost ~10% of range after upgrading to Pilot Sport 4s.
    As for EV vs ICE - I'm a petrolhead as well, shunned diesels all my life, but the reality is that the better EVs are better than ICE in almost every way, except noise/emotion. But that's what project/weekend cars are for :) Getting 0-60 times of 4.7s and "consumption" that's equivalent to 2l/100km of diesel is a pakcage many dreamed of. And since moat new ICE cars are already heavy, the extra battery weight isn't even that bad...

    • @mikeicee
      @mikeicee Před 2 lety +4

      LOL Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus decrease my gas E350 Benz by 12%. Many BMW people say the same.

    • @ZesPak
      @ZesPak Před 2 lety

      My Model S came with Michelin Pilot Sports installed...

    • @jpmkiv
      @jpmkiv Před 2 lety +3

      See if you can the "TO" tesla optomised P4s in your seize!

    • @jpmkiv
      @jpmkiv Před 2 lety +1

      @@mikeicee Yea they suck on my Tesla, but better than the 20' ps4 factory tires after broken in on 18in. Wearing fast also.

    • @mikeicee
      @mikeicee Před 2 lety +1

      @@jpmkiv When I had 18inch AMG wheels on my car the rears were wider and it cost like $500 a year. What a joke.

  • @ghibli608
    @ghibli608 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for this report ! Very useful.

  • @hugovgamboab
    @hugovgamboab Před 2 lety +5

    Excellent video, very useful. One question? What about run-flat or N2 tires in EV ? Nice idea for your next video. Thanks, keep it up!!!!

  • @ToySoldier060
    @ToySoldier060 Před 2 lety +4

    Great and informative video! Now I'm looking forward to seeing the Top EV Tire comparison!!

  • @aarons4205
    @aarons4205 Před 2 lety +7

    I love the diversity in the reviews. I have a PHEV for getting around with the family and feel that it is the way to go for that situation.

  • @kkal1183
    @kkal1183 Před 2 lety +14

    I have a performance Tesla Y with EV specific performance tires. I was always curious about the difference. The performance is unreal and unlike and ICE vehicle I've owned.

  • @ChrisSidwellSmith
    @ChrisSidwellSmith Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for doing this video. EV owner here who moved from Michelin OEM EV tyres to Bridgestone Weather Control A005 EVO based upon your earlier All Season test. Your comments echo with what I've experienced over the last few months after switching from an dedicated EV tyre to a non EV tyre. I'm glad I got XL, and I hope we get a dedicated All-Season/Crossclimate style EV tyre soon.

    • @ChrisSidwellSmith
      @ChrisSidwellSmith Před 2 lety +1

      Just looking at your Crossclimate 2 review, it might be next set if Volvo is using that as standard...

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety +1

      Michelin and Pirelli are solid choices for EVs

  • @pip5461
    @pip5461 Před 2 lety +4

    Who would have thought that there was a difference... nice work, if or when I change to EV, I am now aware and will make sure I choose the appropriate tyres...

  • @breezeracing8015
    @breezeracing8015 Před 2 lety +60

    Would be good to see a winter/all season EV tyres test. It's great to get into pre heated defrosted car in the winter. The extra weight, and instant low down torque can make winter conditions tricky though.

    • @JackPriddle
      @JackPriddle Před 2 lety +3

      Second this 👍

    • @Maxzor11
      @Maxzor11 Před 2 lety +2

      Yes please!

    • @Ficon
      @Ficon Před 2 lety +2

      Extra weight helps with traction off the line although yes, you have to contend with momentum when turning and braking. Torque is actually a non-issue because EVs can instantly adjust torque output at the motors as opposed to a regular car that has to use brakes to slow down the slipping wheels while the engine is still trying to turn them. It's far less dramatic when you floor an EV on a slippery road.

    • @MrAdopado
      @MrAdopado Před 2 lety +4

      I live in Scotland and use Goodyear Ultragrip winter tyres on my rear wheel drive only Model 3 SR+. To my amazement the car turned out to be staggeringly good in winter conditions (excellent weight distribution and traction). Certainly much better than proper 4x4 vehicles that haven't put on winters (on tarmac).

    • @tfat00
      @tfat00 Před 2 lety +3

      It snowed here last winter right after I got my Tesla, so I took it to an empty parking lot and tried to do doughnuts but the traction control was so precise I couldn’t lose traction even if I floored it and full turned. I was quite impressed

  • @Cloverleaf7642
    @Cloverleaf7642 Před 2 lety +1

    Throughly enjoyed. Brilliant analysis, quality presentation.

  • @pwells2389
    @pwells2389 Před 2 lety

    Very helpful vid. Not sure I agree with your range/battery opinion but the tyre reporting was great.

  • @esametsala3054
    @esametsala3054 Před 2 lety +5

    Once again I have to say: Your analytic and easy to understand way to explain the differences are the best! So, Guru has spoken 😁👍🇫🇮🥇

  • @santillbrezon2161
    @santillbrezon2161 Před 2 lety +3

    I really like your channel, the advice and information you give is very good and interesting .

  • @johugra1
    @johugra1 Před 2 lety +1

    Really enjoyed the succinct presentation. Thank you.

  • @gust9464
    @gust9464 Před 2 lety

    Thx for sharing. I have an electric car & I used both tires with foam & without. I really didn’t notice any noise difference. The tires I used were the Michelin pilot sport 4S & the A/S. Really didn’t notice if affected my range as well. I do know the staggered set affects range. Cheers

  • @ronaldconiglio9942
    @ronaldconiglio9942 Před 2 lety +4

    Thank you for the informative review.

  • @CookedLight
    @CookedLight Před 2 lety +3

    Interesting. Presented really well 👍🏻

  • @thesoundsmith
    @thesoundsmith Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for this info. One thing I did not hear - longevity/mileage. The tires on my ICE vehicles got 40-50K.

  • @CitNOW
    @CitNOW Před 2 lety

    Very insightful video!

  • @anthonyc8499
    @anthonyc8499 Před 2 lety +5

    Hey Jonathan, great review and explanation! Do you think manufacturers will make EV-specific variants of all their tyres or will they just be niche tyres focused on particular traits like low rolling resistance and wear?

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety +6

      As evs are the future there will certainly be a lot more available over the next few years

  • @gery4870
    @gery4870 Před 2 lety +6

    Superb video mate !! That is what I was waiting for !! LOVE IT !! Greetings from Barcelona :)
    PD. As an ID.3 owner, I also have EV tires fitted ;)

  • @chargeheadsuk
    @chargeheadsuk Před 2 lety +1

    Very interesting this video. Thanks for the food for thought 💪⚡👍

  • @loriallen67
    @loriallen67 Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks for the info. First EV on order. Looking forward to a quieter ride.

  • @jwenting
    @jwenting Před 2 lety +272

    In other words, as usual: fit the recommended tyres to your car, the manufacturer knows what they're doing when they recommend those.

    • @TheCloudhopper
      @TheCloudhopper Před 2 lety +19

      Unless they are made by Nexen. Than throw them off the car IMMEDIATELY.

    • @loungelizard836
      @loungelizard836 Před 2 lety +20

      He also said that the manufacturer will screw it up: Ford putting skinny tires on the Mach-E hoping to get a higher range number but changing it from a "Sports Car" to an Economy Box with crappy handling in the process.

    • @RAM-BAWN
      @RAM-BAWN Před 2 lety +4

      Unless it's a truck with P rated tires.

    • @93masterchief
      @93masterchief Před 2 lety +6

      Also there was the whole Ford Firestone thing

    • @custommotor
      @custommotor Před 2 lety +1

      @@RAM-BAWN I think that really depends on what you're using the truck for. It's perfectly fine to run p rated tires on a truck if you're not really hauling anything for it. You know the people that buy it just because they might go get some bags of mulch from Lowe's once a year. If you're only putting 500 lb in the bed or even a thousand I wouldn't worry.

  • @S2kDude36
    @S2kDude36 Před 2 lety +4

    Excellent review and good timing. Looking at the Hankook S1 EV as my next set of tires.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety

      I really liked them! What vehicle for?

    • @S2kDude36
      @S2kDude36 Před 2 lety

      @@tyrereviews Tesla Model 3 Performance, I have a spare set of Tesla 19" Sport Wheels to mount them. Looking for a less expensive tire than the PS4S, along with slightly better ride and improved efficiency, but mostly the lower cost tires, I have a 80 mile commute each way to and from my office.

  • @RobStevens64
    @RobStevens64 Před 2 lety +1

    This is great! Would love more EV-focused videos. I live in a rainy climate (Seattle) and I'm buying a Mustang Mach-E. I'm looking for an all-season tire (I'm lazy) with good wet weather performance, and won't decimate the range on the Mustang.

  • @TonyJewell0
    @TonyJewell0 Před 2 lety

    Great video. Very interesting.

  • @dukinse5198
    @dukinse5198 Před 2 lety +3

    Always enjoy this channel's upload. Very informative stuff, helpful for us car owners. I live in Greece and i am wondering should i buy all seasons or summer tires?
    I am leaning towards all season, but i want the most summer focused ones... Maybe hankook 4s2? Don't know...

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety +1

      I don't know your climate but if you're not getting snow I'd go summer

    • @dukinse5198
      @dukinse5198 Před 2 lety

      @@tyrereviews we have almost 20 days to 2 and a half months temperatures below 7 celsius at the mornings and night time especially. Snow and ice are more rare, about 10 days per year i guess. The summer is very hot though, 35+ degrees for 3 months.

  • @peterwilliams2580
    @peterwilliams2580 Před 2 lety +6

    Excellent review, enjoy all your videos thanks & well done but I do have a question regarding Evs, what All-Season tyre would you recommend for an EV?

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety +1

      CC2 or SF2

    • @KyleBrightman
      @KyleBrightman Před 2 lety

      @@tyrereviews I have a Bolt with CC2. Can confirm (although you know I’d never doubt your assessment, Jonathan).

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety

      @@KyleBrightman 😁

  • @yanchegoh1548
    @yanchegoh1548 Před 2 lety +1

    Love watching your videos and it is very infomative! By the way, have you thought of making eco tyres review?

  • @ninoellison7793
    @ninoellison7793 Před 2 lety +1

    Another brilliant review!

  • @odjblue
    @odjblue Před 2 lety +7

    Citroën C4 come from the factory with e-primacy, in both ev and combustion version. Some combustion ones, come with the Goodyear EG performance.

    • @ansv3340
      @ansv3340 Před 2 lety

      Citeoen is still making cars?>

  • @ahmadrtube
    @ahmadrtube Před 2 lety +7

    Rolling resistance is a function of (tire design and) deformation, which is a function of the contact patch which is mainly a function of weight and tire pressure (the sidewall being a small contributor). Therefore, even on a gas car, the rolling resistance gains of using an EV tire are real.
    Of course, as gas cars have way more losses all round, the relative impact of tire rolling resistance is small

  • @gunarstreikals2099
    @gunarstreikals2099 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for your reviews. Really impressive and useful information. Best wishes )

  • @RekoPrime
    @RekoPrime Před 2 lety

    I incorrectly assumed I was already subscribed to this fantastic channel. Solved.

  • @harveysoicher2522
    @harveysoicher2522 Před 2 lety +5

    I really enjoyed your video its very informative thank you! I completely agree that an EV tire is better for an EV. I’ve owned my Audi e-tron for just over two years and I ordered the 19 inch Audi rim with the Bridgestone Alenza tire which is designed specifically for low rolling resistance. The EPA rated range for the E Tron with a 20 inch and all season tire is 204 miles or 324 km. With my combination of 19 inch rims and Bridgestone low rolling resistant summer tires I’m getting easily 350 km or more range this past year I’ve been getting up to 450 km of range a few times quite often 400 km. Bridgestone Alenza tires are great for range and amazing in dry and wet conditions. They are also super quiet and very comfortable as they have a much higher profile than a 21 or 22 inch rim. Audi states the the larger rims may be better for extreme handling but they are heavier and give less range than using a 19 or 20 inch rim. So I’d you are wanting more range I recommend the 19 or 20 inch rims and a low rolling resistance tire that more tire manufacturers are coming out to market with. The Alenza tires have also worn very well. I’ve put on at least 55,000 km on these summer tires and my tread is still above the wear bars. Last week My Bridgestone Alenza tires helped me to complete a Canadian record setting drive for an EV across Canada from coast to coast of over 7,000 KM including 2 ferries of 11 hours of ferry travel and 38 charging stops in 4 days, 18 hours and 25 minutes. For more info check out www.maryannselectricdrive.com.

  • @jonathanpalmer5505
    @jonathanpalmer5505 Před 2 lety +3

    That was genuinely interesting.

  • @kendahlshane3147
    @kendahlshane3147 Před 2 lety +1

    Impressive video. Important enough that I've posted a link to it in an extended discussion of Teslas on another website in the United States.

  • @enmirc9938
    @enmirc9938 Před 2 lety +4

    I change the tires every two years but I watch all the episodes you do!

    • @Nordlicht05
      @Nordlicht05 Před 2 lety

      My last winter tires lastet 7 years. I only drive up to 15.000km a year. The tüv and cracks between the profile of my Michelin tires where their death. Still had 4mm.

    • @martin1649
      @martin1649 Před 2 lety

      @@Nordlicht05 my summer michelins are the same!! DOT 15 and they're extremely cracked along the whole shoulder and inside, the whole thread! Thread is 4mm front and 4,5mm back

  • @ivancajka732
    @ivancajka732 Před 2 lety +3

    I have been dying for a video like this since I drive a Tesla for the past 12 months.

  • @anidiotinaracingcar4874
    @anidiotinaracingcar4874 Před 2 lety +18

    Putting this EV tire on a petrol car would still be an interesting (entertaining) test :-)

  • @drandrewclarke
    @drandrewclarke Před 2 lety

    cheers mate. this made my mind up

  • @adriangabrielgramada1016
    @adriangabrielgramada1016 Před 2 lety +1

    Very nicely explained and put together 😉😁🙂

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety +1

      Thank you!

    • @adriangabrielgramada1016
      @adriangabrielgramada1016 Před 2 lety

      @@tyrereviews You're very welcome ! And also now part of my subscriptions ! Also, here's an ideea for a future video: aireless 3D printed carbon reinforced all terrain / all climate tyres. One time installation + virtually unlimited repleneshing re-rubberizing cycles (different coating for diffrent gripping situations, even changing on the fly / on the road = a tire that outlasts any car and thus having the absolute lowest CO2 footprint... Just wait for my invention to get ready to hit the market ;)

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety +1

      @@adriangabrielgramada1016 Get in touch when you have something to test ;)

    • @adriangabrielgramada1016
      @adriangabrielgramada1016 Před 2 lety

      @@tyrereviews Will sure do 😁😊 Thanks 🙂

  • @moose05focus
    @moose05focus Před 2 lety +3

    It'd be cool to see an ev tire comparison between the manufactures, seems like they all have one out now

  • @Jeo-What
    @Jeo-What Před 2 lety +10

    Great review for today’s relevant topic on patrol vs EV vehicles. I wonder, if hybrid owners should also use EV tires? Would be interesting to see a comparison review on that.

    • @WijiFiji
      @WijiFiji Před 2 lety +1

      This is a great question that I also would like to see being tested. As an owner of an E300 de, should I fit EV tires for the extra range in electric mode and the quieter ride? Or should I fit the regular tires? Is it even any benefit besides the lower noise? As the car weighs more than 2100kg, shouldn't struggle with wet braking.
      Hope these scenarios are tested in future videos about this topic, as well as other brands like Michelin Pilot Sport EV or Michelin e-Primacy.

    • @macbitz
      @macbitz Před 2 lety

      I'd also be interested to see that.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety +1

      I would focus on the middle ground tyre, low rolling resistance but not just for EV tyres, such as the e.Primacy

    • @SonicWawes
      @SonicWawes Před 2 lety +1

      @@tyrereviews How about to put these EV tires on Plug-in-Hybrid with some EV range? I mean PHEV like Hyundai Tucson PHEV or Toyota Rav 4 PHEV.

  • @petrolhead2955
    @petrolhead2955 Před 2 lety +1

    I‘m the person who did thing the other way. I have a Toyota Rav4 hybrid and I've installed 4 Tesla Model Y 19inch OE wheels on my car. Those Tesla wheels have the Hankook EV tires on them and my actual experience was a bit different than what you said would happen in the video. The acoustic foam, which is a big selling point, is in fact useless. Road noise is worse after I fitted Tesla wheels. You can't feel it because you are in one of the most quiet vehicle in the market. Go ask Model Y owners, they will tell you how terrible the noise is. And then the fuel economy, I find very little impact. Even though the Tesla wheels are heavier(30+kg each vs 25kg each) and wider(255mm vs 225), I still have around 5.5L/100km city consumption. So my conclusion, after 2000km on EV tires, is that EV tires on conventional cars is not good idea😅

  • @micw8422
    @micw8422 Před 2 lety

    @tyrereviews, thanks for the informative review. Question, if the EV tire is heavier, understand the value in the foam for the sound, and stability, but where does the EV tire efficiency come from to counter the extra weight. I missed that. Thanks.

  • @mcdon2401
    @mcdon2401 Před 2 lety +3

    My MG ZS EV was running Michelin Primacy 3 EV tyres, but I swapped them for a set of Hankook Kinergy 4S2s for the better performance in the lousy weather we had at the start of the year. Only difference in spec was a higher load index than what was originally fitted (95 v 91).
    Wear has been comparable to what I was getting with the same model of tyre on my old Golf estate, although I was carrying a bit of extra weight in the Golf at the time, so not quite a straight comparison. Economy hasn't been too bad, I did over 1000 miles on the original tyres, I've done close to 8000 on the new ones, and the figures are acceptable for me. I don't mind how long I'm charging for, I'd rather know I'll get to my destination no matter the weather 🤣

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety

      My first car was an MG ZR. Different times

  • @xiaomiredmi1541
    @xiaomiredmi1541 Před 2 lety +5

    Great test, thank you. So basically ev tires are tires for heavy cars? Then it would be a perfect match for my 2.5t diesel.

  • @filmagnoli
    @filmagnoli Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the video. As I’m looking to replace my original set of tires on my Performance Model 3, 👀 Ng at options, your video is informative. I’d love to see a side by side comparison of different branded EV tires, I think that would be helpful to those considering going with stock manufacturers tires versus switching to another brand for reasons of performance or noise, etc. thanks again

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety

      For teslas I'd say stick with OE as they're pretty tuned

  • @KTMDUDE1290
    @KTMDUDE1290 Před 2 lety +1

    Noticed on the photos of the dash display from the range test a thing that might be a problem in the comparison. EV tires runned in Driver mode, but EV tires in Sports mode which always will have a negative impact on range.
    Otherwise, excellent vid!! 👍👏

  • @karacasarioglu1382
    @karacasarioglu1382 Před 2 lety +3

    Could you do a normal vs RFT tires. Thx. Keep up the good work

  • @Xenon0000000000001
    @Xenon0000000000001 Před 2 lety +12

    I like this because it shows how it's all about the engineering.

  • @redpillcanucklofi
    @redpillcanucklofi Před 2 lety

    Great review...very indepth! This was like reading the manual but more fun :) Do people even read manuals anymore though...lol. Great job on your video :)

  • @th3w4nted
    @th3w4nted Před 2 lety

    Fantastic review! Will you get a chance to test the Pilot Sport EV and Pirelli PZ4 NCS Elect tyres soon?

  • @UTArch1
    @UTArch1 Před 2 lety +6

    I wish you had discussed cost. I found that EV tires are significantly more expensive than "regular" tires. And cost is a major factor for most people in their buying decisions.

    • @ThePandafriend
      @ThePandafriend Před 2 lety

      Isn't it rather obvious why EV tires are more expensive? All that R&D put in for a smaller amount of customers. Plus it's more challenging to make good EV tires.
      In addition to that the materials differ. But the latter is probably a smaller part of it all.
      I can't answer wether all this justifies the difference fully, but even though it might be a bitter pill to swallow for some, saving on tires should be one of the last things you should do.
      Keep in mind that cars are tools with the potential to cause a lot of harm to both the passengers and also other traffic participants.

  • @StevenTilly
    @StevenTilly Před 2 lety +3

    Missed one important stat. What's the price differential?

  • @thefamilyrobbo
    @thefamilyrobbo Před 2 lety +1

    Great video. Informative and entertaining as ever.
    Never even knew EV tyres were a thing so learned a lot.
    Who would have thought the future of efficiency would have weighed nearly 3 tonnes.
    If you're up there Colin Chapman, cover your ears!

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety

      RIP

    • @falkin42
      @falkin42 Před 2 lety

      I would argue that carrying around that much weight is most definitely not efficient. It is a good step though, which is important now. I'm just looking forward to lighter electricity storage.

  • @thebomb363
    @thebomb363 Před 2 lety +1

    Great review. I didn't realise they actually had EV tyres,but something I would buy if I could afford to buy an electric car just the purchase prices is to high.

  • @steve0680657
    @steve0680657 Před 2 lety +5

    Does this give credit to fitting "extra load" versions of tyres to combustion cars, in order to improve handling?
    It would be great to see some "extra load" versions of tyres already included as part of a group test... i.e. 205/55/16 91v vs 94v on a golf or similar. How would Braking, Handling, Rolling Resistance, Comfort be affected?

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety +2

      It sure does, but it obviously depends on brand and tyre

  • @loungelizard836
    @loungelizard836 Před 2 lety +7

    I was also a big-time gear-head. Always worked on my own cars and loved the technology of engines, gas or diesel. But when hybrids came along, I tried the Prius and that got me hooked on electric drive. Next was the Leaf, Volt, and now, Tesla. I won't ever go back to Fossil-powered cars. I now have time to use and enjoy my cars because I'm not always fixing them!

    • @adityapanda2695
      @adityapanda2695 Před 2 lety

      Can you use carbon black in the tyres of electric vehicles because it helps to improve the strength of the tyres and it also absorbs the ultraviolet radiation

    • @adityapanda2695
      @adityapanda2695 Před 2 lety

      Please give the answer of my question 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

  • @patrickjr11
    @patrickjr11 Před 2 lety +1

    I have Michelin E-Primacy tyres on my Leaf and the difference in noise from that was there before is amazing. In town driving they are substantially quieter. Recommend them without hesitation

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety

      Glad you like them. Please leave a review on www.tyrereviews.com sometime :)

    • @patrickjr11
      @patrickjr11 Před 2 lety

      @@tyrereviews Done

  • @laloajuria4678
    @laloajuria4678 Před 2 lety +2

    yes we are here for this!

  • @KK-up3pq
    @KK-up3pq Před 2 lety +3

    Agree on EVs but in general, meaning day-to-day charging is a non-issue. It charges when it's parked. Does not matter how slow. At the grocery store, at IKEA, at the playground. Of course some destinations may be chosen based on charging infrastructure. For long trips, my experience is, the car is quicker ready to go than we are. It's mostly a myth. Except very specific use cases (e.g. external sales travelling 50+kkm/year.).
    For non-teslas that's only going to be that way once the supercharger network is made available to every EV.

    • @gothmog2441
      @gothmog2441 Před 2 lety +1

      Even that specific use case ... I met a business traveller who had put 20,000 miles on his Tesla in the first six months he owned it: he was delighted with the fuel saving, which more than offset charging issues for him.

    • @KK-up3pq
      @KK-up3pq Před 2 lety

      @@gothmog2441 agree, in my company there is an external sales with a Tesla for years, but his area is only a few hundred km across. We have others that cover the whole country, so 500km one way is not a rare occasion. For them, 40mins of charging can mean the difference between seeing your kid on weekdays or not seeing your kid on weekdays. But however, covid has taught us that not all journeys are necessary...

  • @AnthonyTeasdale
    @AnthonyTeasdale Před 2 lety +7

    Still using Crossclimate + on my Leaf and thinking of switching to Crossclimate 2 when they need changing.
    Do you think they are the best option for a all season for electric?

    • @niccox1738
      @niccox1738 Před 2 lety

      Snap - would also be interested to see if this is still the best option

    • @Th3cr4zy0n3
      @Th3cr4zy0n3 Před 2 lety +1

      Pirelli CINTURATO ALL SEASON SF 2 seems to be even better than CROSSCLIMATE 2… Test neeeded

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety +1

      Test out monday, but CC2 and SF2 oth great optoins for EVs

  • @brettgoldsmith8584
    @brettgoldsmith8584 Před 2 lety +1

    The original audi etron (a modified a3 hatchback) had an entire separate trim of the car called the ULTRA, which improved EV range by 10%, and the only difference was the tyres. Granted, the full electric range was only 20 miles (it was a plug-in hybrid) but they still went to the trouble

  • @OVarlamov
    @OVarlamov Před 2 lety +2

    My experience is that the wear is much much higher. I never ever had to buy new tires that frequently until I went EV 4 years ago. Have to buy yet another set now and was actually seriously considering that it might be worthwhile to lose some 10% of range but not have to pay for new tires plus fitting them that soon again

  • @Sovereign86
    @Sovereign86 Před 2 lety +4

    I would like to see a head 2 head comparison of a normal car + EV tires vs. a normal car +normal tires!

    • @jaypaans3471
      @jaypaans3471 Před 2 lety +2

      Lol notice how "normal" is still i.c.e. ?

  • @acinonyx_potens_6564
    @acinonyx_potens_6564 Před 2 lety +3

    Hello ! very good video as usual ! Can you test for example the difference between the Michelin Energy saver + and the Primacy 4 on an little hatchback EV car like the Renault Zoé or the Peugeot e-208 ? (or anything else :) ) and if it's possible to test with a regular car with an combustion engine to see the difference
    And if it's possible the difference in terme of Mpg on a hybride vehicule like the Toyota Prius/Renault Clio E-tech, or something else

  • @Fred_P
    @Fred_P Před 2 lety +1

    Very interesting!
    The sidewall looks much nicer on the EV version : )

  • @jt4403
    @jt4403 Před rokem

    thanks for the wonderful video to explain.
    could I understand a little better - shouldn't the load/weight rating of the tyre already help address the issue of heavier cars? what is that specific difference that makes an EV tyre more supportive of an EV car's weight than a high/extra load rated 'normal' tyre?
    I'm thinking of choosing between the Pirelli P0 PZ4 (PNCS, Elect) "102W" and the Michelin Pilot Sport 5 "102Y" - both "XL" for the size 245/45/R19 on the Polestar 2. The minimum load rating in the owner's manual is "99". Which would u recommend then for better handling and cornering?

  • @pauldavison2018
    @pauldavison2018 Před 2 lety +4

    Very interesting review thanks. I'm surprised that the EV tyre is heavier yet gives a longer range. I've been looking at putting 18" wheels on a e-golf (replacing the visually awful 16" ones) but anecdotally this results in a reduction in range. It sounds like this is due to the wheel weight being further out from the wheel centre and probably a stickier tyre. It would be great if you could do a review of different wheel sizes on an EV. I recall Engineering Explained found his range improved when he went to smaller wheels on his Model 3. The other thing I would be very interested to see tested would be to see different tyres tested for accelerating from rest, particularly when wet, as wheel spin isn't something I've see rated and is a real issue with EVs. This would then need to be compared with rolling resistance as I imagine it is difficult to achieve great grip and low rolling resistance.

    • @lordofkiwi5144
      @lordofkiwi5144 Před 2 lety +2

      The best for EV is lightweight rims but tyres with strong sidewalls (so most likely an heavy tyre).
      If you do the opposite you will lose on range and driving experience.

    • @Xenon0000000000001
      @Xenon0000000000001 Před 2 lety +2

      I don't think the weight of the tyre/wheel combination really affects the range much, it's more down the the aero. Tyre sidewall is just more aerodynamic than the wheels, so they give better range. The other factor would be the tyre width if that was different for the low profile tyres, because narrower tyres are going to be significantly more efficient.

    • @markgambrill
      @markgambrill Před rokem

      @@Xenon0000000000001 A tyre/wheel weight will most definitely affect range. Lighter the better. The reason the EV tyre in this vid is heavier is due to being design for a heavier vehicle. A heavier vehicle will need higher pressures so the tyre deformation is more defined by that rather than the tyre construction. So you need a stiffer tyre to handle the higher loads.
      The reason a lighter setup is better for range is down to the energy required. It takes less to get it rotating and to keep it rotating.

  • @roccosperanza
    @roccosperanza Před 2 lety +4

    I think you need to try a Tesla Model 3 performance or a Porsche Taycan around a track. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

  • @dimitriosnikasmdphdfesc8132
    @dimitriosnikasmdphdfesc8132 Před 11 měsíci

    Great video, Thank you for your efforts to present us the differences between those 2 tyres. Audi fits a set of Hankook Ventus S1 evo 3 EV tires in the Q3 SPortback mild - hybrid 150Hp. I' ve noticed as you said, the lower comfort level and the unacceptable lateral wet handling. Is there a reason to use a dedicated EV tire in a MHEV, which is primary an internal -combustion engine vehicle? Which would suggest instead?

  • @Scott-tp4kt
    @Scott-tp4kt Před 2 lety

    Thanks for another good video review. Will u be doing something on Michelin's new Uptis airless tyres?

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety +1

      When I'm allowed to drive it, yes for sure

  • @saqs
    @saqs Před 2 lety +6

    How do you always read my mind!? I’ve been thinking this for a while.

    • @tyrereviews
      @tyrereviews  Před 2 lety +4

      I follow you everywhere you go

    • @Fred_P
      @Fred_P Před 2 lety

      "Every Breath You Take" starts playing.

  • @mechrocktech
    @mechrocktech Před 2 lety +9

    I'm very curious about Michelin's new EV tires coming out. Will you be testing those?

  • @JoshBaer-ri2dc
    @JoshBaer-ri2dc Před rokem +1

    Can you create a video comparing different low rolling resistance/EV tires? You create a best summer/winter tire series and with the increased adoption of EVs it's would be worthwhile to compare best tires for this type of vehicle

  • @owenjones-wells9395
    @owenjones-wells9395 Před 9 měsíci

    My electric Smart Fortwo came with Continental EV tyres, which when I came to replace my original tyres recently, I could not find anywhere in the size I need. And the tyres I could find were summer only, not all seasons.
    If it is recommended that we got EV tyres to EV's, then not options need to be available.
    This was a very interesting video.

  • @alrokram
    @alrokram Před 2 lety +11

    Very informative, considering going EV.

    • @domtdoodar99
      @domtdoodar99 Před 2 lety

      @@blitzwing1 do you mean estate? MG5 is a solid car. Not a flashy one but very functional and very good value, (sub 25k new)

  • @aceace5457
    @aceace5457 Před 2 lety +3

    i bought a new mimi e stage 3 and it drives and pulls better then my 7 series bmw lol i always have it in economy mode and i wobder should i put it in sport....

  • @nickdegroot2445
    @nickdegroot2445 Před rokem

    Really nice review again. You said it is possible to apply acoustic foam inside normal tires. Did you mean that its possible to actually do this yourself? I am actually surprised you barely see any tires in the normal touring tire segment have it as it is really cheap to add and will make a significant increase in noise levels. What is the reason you think they don’t do it?

  • @3storiesUp
    @3storiesUp Před 5 měsíci

    Great vid as always Jon ! Don't know if you review these comments as the vid is a few years old but .. I have a Hybrid (A6). Its quite a heavy car (2.2 tonnes). I know you said that the cons outweigh the pro's in fitting an EV tyre to a ICE car, but what about a heavy hybrid ?